The Ben Shapiro Show - Why Don’t People Trust The Media? | Ep. 595

00:00:00.000 New New York Times editorial board member Sarah Jean keeps her job despite racist tweets. 0.68

00:00:04.000 Jim Acosta loves that dude some Jim Acosta.

00:00:07.000 And President Trump argues with Ivanka over the media.

00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

00:00:16.000 Oh, man, we have a fun show for you today.

00:00:17.000 So many things to talk about.

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00:02:05.000 Okay, so, meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about the New York Times.

00:02:09.000 So, the New York Times, about a year ago, tried to hire a tech reporter.

00:02:12.000 This tech reporter, it turned out, was friends with some rather unsavory people on the internet, and people dug up her old tweets, and then the New York Times fired this person.

00:02:19.000 The New York Times, however, has not fired a woman named Sarah Zhang.

00:02:21.000 Sarah Zhang is their new tech

00:02:24.000 We're good to go.

00:02:39.000 For example, if I had a bunch of tweets 10 years old and somebody had hired me and they didn't know about my old tweets, like they hadn't been public fodder, they hadn't done their research or something, and then it came to light, then firing me would not be the end of the world.

00:02:50.000 If, however, they knew what they were getting when they hired me, then they should not fire me over calls to boycott.

00:02:55.000 They should not fire me just on a principled level over them making a bad decision.

00:02:59.000 Like the fault of the New York Times here is the fault of the New York Times.

00:03:02.000 It's not Sarah Zhang's fault.

00:03:03.000 She tweeted this stuff in the past four years and the New York Times just didn't do its research.

00:03:06.000 Or if they did do their research, they obviously didn't care.

00:03:10.000 So that's a little bit different from, for example, the Roseanne Barr situation, where ABC fully knew that Roseanne Barr was kind of a crazy person, but she then tweeted something new, and that new thing was something that, it's new information, Disney didn't have it when they decided to hire Roseanne, ABC didn't have it when they decided to hire Roseanne, and so that sort of changes the equation.

00:03:27.000 Well, Sarah Jean, all this stuff has been known, and here's some of the stuff that she tweeted, and I'll explain why this matters. 0.87

00:03:32.000 She tweeted, oh man, it's kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men.

00:03:38.000 And she also tweeted this. 0.84

00:03:45.000 She's just a delightful, delightful person.

00:03:48.000 And it's not just restricted to that.

00:03:50.000 There are some old tweets that are now surfacing about cops, where she tweeted stuff like,

00:04:04.000 And says, when homeless people can beat cops senseless and suffer nary a repercussion, then let's talk about accountability going both ways.

00:04:10.000 So, she's an execrable human, right?

00:04:11.000 I mean, she seems like a bad person. 0.93

00:04:13.000 These are not good tweets.

00:04:15.000 But the New York Times knew all this when they hired her.

00:04:16.000 So, the New York Times came out and they defended her, which tells you something about the New York Times.

00:04:21.000 I think it is good, by the way, that employers are not jumping to firing people based on social media mobbing.

00:04:27.000 This lady is a bad lady, but I don't think that it is a good thing as a general rule for employers to start firing people based on the social media mob getting angry. 1.00

00:04:37.000 We've seen this from the left too many times to think that it's any better when it comes from the right.

00:04:40.000 It's just not a good idea to have blowback on Twitter drive whether somebody can hold a job or not as a general rule.

00:04:47.000 The New York Times released a statement, and their statement is more telling about the New York Times than anything else.

00:04:50.000 Because as I say, a year ago, the New York Times fired somebody for doing exactly what Sarah Zhang did, except that she was perceived to be on the right.

00:04:57.000 Sarah Zhang is perceived to be on the left, so she gets to keep her job.

00:05:00.000 Here's what the New York Times said.

00:05:01.000 They said,

00:05:17.000 Okay, this is legitimately the worst excuse I have ever heard for why you would tweet racist stuff.

00:05:22.000 That's really... People were tweeting racist stuff at me, so in imitation of them, I decided to tweet racist stuff back at them.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, that's good.

00:05:29.000 Good excuse.

00:05:30.000 Well done, guys.

00:05:31.000 And then, the New York Times says, she now sees that this approach only served to feed the vitriol that we too often see on social media.

00:05:37.000 She regrets it and the Times does not condone it.

00:05:39.000 We had candid conversations with Sarah as part of our thorough vetting process, which included a review of her social media history.

00:05:44.000 She understands that this type of rhetoric is not acceptable at The Times, and we are confident she will be an important voice for the editorial board moving forward.

00:05:51.000 So, several things can be true here at once.

00:05:53.000 One, I don't think The New York Times should fire this lady.

00:05:56.000 They broke it.

00:05:56.000 They bought it.

00:05:57.000 They bought it.

00:05:59.000 They knew what she was when they hired her. 0.98

00:06:00.000 They should bear the consequences.

00:06:01.000 If you choose not to subscribe to The New York Times,

00:06:03.000 You have every right to do that, and they should bear the consequences of their own decision-making.

00:06:07.000 Two, does the New York Times have a double standard? 0.98

00:06:09.000 You bet your ass they have a double standard. 0.99

00:06:12.000 You bet your life they have a double standard. 1.00

00:06:13.000 There is no question the New York Times has an insane double standard.

00:06:16.000 Not only does the New York Times have an insane double standard, Sarah Zhang has an insane double standard, because it turns out Sarah Zhang loves social media mobbing. 1.00

00:06:24.000 She's been part of it.

00:06:25.000 Tim Hunt, you'll recall, is a former honorary professor with the University College London School of Life and Medical Sciences.

00:06:31.000 He's a Nobel Prize winner in physiology and medicine, as well as recipient of the Royal Medal.

00:06:36.000 He made a joke one time in a speech about how young women and young men should work in laboratories together because they tend to fall in love.

00:06:43.000 How do you know this was a joke?

00:06:44.000 Because he was specifically referencing the fact that he married his lab assistant.

00:06:48.000 Right?

00:06:48.000 He is a scientist in her own right.

00:06:50.000 People took this as, well, he's saying women shouldn't be in the laboratory, which is weird since his wife is actually a very highfalutin scientist in her own right.

00:06:57.000 He was basically mobbed out of a job.

00:07:00.000 He had to resign his job.

00:07:01.000 He was punished by all of the academies of which he was a part.

00:07:05.000 And here's what Sarah Zhang tweeted at the time.

00:07:07.000 So she's really a delight.

00:07:14.000 And then, there was Zhang's reaction to the firing of Benny Johnson, who now works over at the Daily Caller.

00:07:18.000 A long time ago, Benny was caught up in a sort of plagiarism accusation, and Sarah Zhang tweeted out,

00:07:29.000 Well, I mean, I think that we could probably apply that same logic to Sarah Zhang.

00:07:32.000 And then she said this about Justine Sackler.

00:07:35.000 You remember Justine Sackler?

00:07:36.000 The woman PR executive who was on a plane and she was traveling to Africa and she tweeted something about getting AIDS.

00:07:41.000 And by the time she landed, her life had basically been destroyed.

00:07:44.000 She tweeted this bad joke about AIDS and suddenly she was out of a job.

00:07:48.000 No one would hire her.

00:07:49.000 She had been made a pariah all across the media.

00:07:51.000 I mean, it was really insane.

00:07:52.000 People were tweeting, has Justine landed yet?

00:07:55.000 And this became a top trending Twitter hashtag because virtue signaling on Twitter is extraordinarily strong.

00:08:00.000 Here's what Sarah Zhang tweeted about that.

00:08:02.000 What I'm getting at is that what happened to Sacco was not that bad.

00:08:05.000 And white America's obsession with her is deeply telling.

00:08:07.000 So that wasn't bad either.

00:08:08.000 It turns out that when Barry Weiss, a New York Times columnist, was mobbed for having suggested that the right was being mistreated online, Sarah Zhang was very upset about that.

00:08:17.000 She says, Is there anything more tedious than media navel gazing over outrage mobs?

00:08:21.000 Start paying attention to what's happening outside your Ivy League, New York City-centric circles.

00:08:25.000 Look at how the pylons operate in other contexts and get some bleep perspective.

00:08:29.000 She did a bad tweet. 1.00

00:08:30.000 She got engagement for it, and then she didn't want to engage back.

00:08:32.000 What exactly was Barry Weiss's bad tweet?

00:08:35.000 Her bad tweet was, she said, immigrants get the job done, when she was talking about the daughter of an immigrant who went to the Olympics in ice skating.

00:08:41.000 That was her bad tweet.

00:08:43.000 And Sarah Jean said she deserved everything she got.

00:08:45.000 The discourse is not being harmed because of people questioning a bad ice skating tweet.

00:08:48.000 The discourse started getting harmed with, say, the online death threats, etc.

00:08:52.000 Once you've seen enough of these, you can also see that people tweeting at Barry Weiss is not a big deal.

00:08:56.000 LOL.

00:08:57.000 Brendan Eich.

00:08:58.000 I mean, it's over and over.

00:08:59.000 She's been part of these social media mobs, urging them on, cheering them.

00:09:02.000 So there is a fair bit of karmic justice to Sarah Zhang now being social media mobbed. 1.00

00:09:08.000 Now, do I think, again, for the 11th time in the segment, do I think

00:09:12.000 That employers should start firing people based on social media mobbing?

00:09:15.000 I do not.

00:09:16.000 I think it's a mistake.

00:09:17.000 I think employers should only fire employees if they are feeling actual business blowback from the decisions of those employees made while in the employ of those employers.

00:09:26.000 But this is not that.

00:09:27.000 So I don't think Sarah Zhang should be fired. 0.98

00:09:28.000 I think she should sit on the New York Times editorial board and we should continue to characterize the New York Times as a terrible piece of garbage newspaper. 1.00

00:09:34.000 I think that seems to me the fairest outcome here. 0.95

00:09:36.000 That she should have to work there after having criticized the New York Times for years, by the way, as being too right-wing. 0.97

00:09:41.000 She should have to work there and then we can all sit here and laugh at the New York Times for being stupid enough to hire somebody like Sarah Zhang. 1.00

00:09:47.000 By the way, I think it is worthwhile noting that Sarah Zhang, the real reason she wasn't fired is not because the New York Times has suddenly discovered the evils of social media mobbing. 0.95

00:09:55.000 That is not why she was not fired.

00:09:57.000 Okay?

00:09:57.000 She was not fired because the New York Times agrees with her.

00:10:01.000 She was not fired because the New York Times agrees with her take on white America. 0.78

00:10:04.000 They are a bunch of white, upper-crust New York elitists who believe that anyone who is not white in the United States is inherently under the boot of Uncle Sam.

00:10:14.000 And therefore, when Sarah Jean tweets racist stuff about white people, it's because white people deserve it. 1.00

00:10:17.000 How do I know this?

00:10:18.000 Because there are people on the left who say this sort of stuff openly. 1.00

00:10:20.000 So there's an idiot named Zach Beauchamp. 1.00

00:10:22.000 And I say idiot advisedly. 1.00

00:10:23.000 I think it may be too kind a word for him. 0.99

00:10:24.000 He's a columnist over at Vox.com.

00:10:27.000 Which is the most icily of the commentariat. 1.00

00:10:32.000 It's a hive of villainy and scum. 0.99

00:10:33.000 And I say that having actual friends who work there. 1.00

00:10:37.000 Little story.

00:10:38.000 Okay, little story.

00:10:39.000 After Zach Beauchamp wrote an article two weeks ago suggesting that Mark Duplass, this independent director, we talked about it on the show, he had tweeted something nice about me.

00:10:46.000 And then after he was social media mobbed, he deleted the nice tweet about me and then issued a public apology for ever having said anything nice about me.

00:10:52.000 Zach Beauchamp wrote a piece for Vox.com suggesting that 0.76

00:10:56.000 I completely deserved it, and Mark Duplass was exactly right because I'm a horrible, horrible human being.

00:11:00.000 So, Mark Duplass should have been social media mobbed, and he should have deleted the tweet, and all the rest of this stuff. 0.96

00:11:05.000 I got letters from two different Vox writers who would not come out publicly and say so, saying Zach Beauchamp is an idiot, and you are not a bad person because I know you and we talk frequently. 0.97

00:11:13.000 In any case. 0.98

00:11:14.000 Zach Beauchamp tweets this out yesterday, right?

00:11:17.000 Here's what he tweets out.

00:11:18.000 A lot of people on the internet today confusing the expressive way anti-racist and minorities talk about white people, unquote, with actual race-based hatred for some unfathomable reason.

00:11:28.000 So he looks at those tweets from tweets that say things like, and I quote, And he says that this is actually the expressive way anti-racist and minorities talk about white people.

00:11:44.000 And this should never be confused with actual race-based hatred.

00:11:48.000 It would be unfathomable for you to actually equate these two things. 0.99

00:11:52.000 Like when you say dumbass effing white people, how could I not read that as, oh, that's just the expressive way that Asian people talk. 1.00

00:12:00.000 Which is racist, you idiot. 1.00

00:12:01.000 Okay, Zach Beauchamp, he's just the worst. 1.00

00:12:04.000 He's just the worst.

00:12:04.000 And then David Yoakim.

00:12:06.000 Who is, I guess, a writer for the ex-New York Times writer.

00:12:13.000 He tweets out,

00:12:18.000 No, it isn't.

00:12:19.000 No, it isn't.

00:12:20.000 Racism can be used by the powerful to keep down the powerless, but racism is not about the powerful keeping down the powerless.

00:12:26.000 Racism is about race-based hatred.

00:12:27.000 That is the actual definition.

00:12:29.000 We generally are the powerful, meaning we white people.

00:12:31.000 White people isn't a slur.

00:12:33.000 Oh, really?

00:12:34.000 It's not a slur? 1.00

00:12:34.000 Why don't you say black people and then make a giant generalization about black people, like they're dumbass effing black people. 1.00

00:12:39.000 Why don't you say something awful, awful, terrible like that? 1.00

00:12:42.000 And see how that goes for you, David Joachim. 0.99

00:12:44.000 And then he says, the f-word for gay people and the n-word are slurs because they subordinate. 1.00

00:12:48.000 You know, as opposed to saying, dumb ass f-ing white people. 1.00

00:12:50.000 That's not subordinating white people in any way. 1.00

00:12:52.000 It says, your moral equivalence is nonsense.

00:12:54.000 Reverse racism isn't a thing.

00:12:56.000 You're right.

00:12:56.000 Reverse racism isn't a thing.

00:12:57.000 It's just called racism.

00:12:59.000 It's just called racism.

00:13:00.000 It's not reverse racism.

00:13:01.000 It's just called racism.

00:13:02.000 But this is an actual perspective.

00:13:04.000 On the left.

00:13:05.000 An actual perspective on the left suggests that racism from the powerful is the only thing that matters.

00:13:10.000 There is no such thing as racism in any other context.

00:13:13.000 Right?

00:13:14.000 The left tends to see things in this Marxist universe where power relations are the entirety of what we should be talking about every day.

00:13:20.000 Relations between the more powerful groups and the less powerful groups.

00:13:23.000 And the less powerful groups are less powerful because those less powerful groups have been put upon by the more powerful groups.

00:13:29.000 As I always say, the Marxist view of life is that if you have two people in a room, one person has five bucks, one person has one buck, it must be that the person with five dollars somehow subordinated the person with one dollar.

00:13:37.000 That is not true in a free country, but this is how the left sees things.

00:13:40.000 So, if white people are racist, then their racism is really just a tool of their power. 0.97

00:13:46.000 But if black people are racist, or Asian people are racist, or Mexicans are racist, or Jews are racist, then this means that they are just fighting back against the man. 0.98

00:13:53.000 They're just fighting back against the man and they are using the tools at their disposal to fight back against this power relationship. 0.98

00:13:59.000 This is how you end up with this foolishness of intersectionality suggesting that certain opinions are worth more than others based on the color of the skin of the person who's making a particular argument.

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00:15:24.000 Okay, so final note on this tendency of the left to be okay with racism so long as it's not coming from white people.

00:15:28.000 I was talking with a leftist friend who happens to work with an aforementioned publication.

00:15:49.000 We're talking about intersectionality, and she's saying all intersectionality really is is context.

00:15:53.000 It's just trying to suggest that every interaction has a context in which group characteristics play a part.

00:15:58.000 And I said, well, I'm not sure, number one, that every interaction does have that context.

00:16:02.000 And second of all, if there is a context in which, for example, black people suffer more from racism than white people, if that's true,

00:16:09.000 I think that if we're talking about how much that impacts disparities between group outcome, I think that may account for a small percentage of the disparity between group outcome, maybe 15-20%.

00:16:19.000 But intersectional theorists think it's 90%.

00:16:22.000 And normal Democrats think that it's 60%. 0.99

00:16:24.000 And that's why they're constantly railing about societal injustice and not taking into account that people should just not act like jerks. 0.99

00:16:30.000 And this is true of Sarah Zhang. 0.99

00:16:31.000 People on the left look at Sarah Zhang and say, she's Asian. 0.98

00:16:33.000 She must've been put upon.

00:16:34.000 She went to Harvard Law School.

00:16:36.000 If we're going to talk about group characteristics, the highest earning group in the United States are Asian Americans.

00:16:41.000 White Americans earn 76 cents on the dollar for every dollar earned by an Asian household. 0.78

00:16:45.000 White American households earn less on average than Asian American households.

00:16:49.000 But she is one of the put-upon groups. 0.97

00:16:50.000 Why?

00:16:51.000 Because intersectional theory really is a guise for power relations.

00:16:54.000 Because the left sees all race-based discussion as a way to

00:16:59.000 Reverse power relationships?

00:17:00.000 They use intersectionality as a club in order to beat up people who are not of a minority group.

00:17:05.000 And that's why Sarah Zhang still has a job today. 1.00

00:17:08.000 If she were on the right, she would not have a job.

00:17:09.000 If she were white, she would not have a job. 0.99

00:17:10.000 She is Asian and she is on the left, therefore she has a job today at the New York Times, which tells you a fair bit about how awful the New York Times actually is, which is why I say they should continue to employ her so we can mock them for their awfulness on a routine basis. 0.99

00:17:22.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of awfulness in the media, yesterday, Jim Acosta,

00:17:26.000 was doing his job at the White House, which is basically to show up on camera and show his bouffant to the world.

00:17:33.000 And Jim Acosta, as I've said many times in the past, Jim Acosta, CNN's White House correspondent, get you somebody who loves you like Jim Acosta loves Jim Acosta.

00:17:42.000 That dude loves him some Jim Acosta.

00:17:44.000 I mean,

00:17:46.000 If we could retell the modern myth of narcissists, Jim Acosta would be in the starring role.

00:17:51.000 So, Jim Acosta gets into it with Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:17:54.000 Why?

00:17:54.000 Because President Trump has done his routine again where he calls the press the enemy of the people.

00:17:58.000 Now, as I have said approximately 1,273,322 times on the show, I don't think the media are the enemy of the people.

00:18:05.000 I think this is a silly line from the President.

00:18:07.000 I think the media lie a fair bit. 0.89

00:18:08.000 I think, more importantly, the media

00:18:11.000 Unconsciously bias their stories in leftward directions a fair bit.

00:18:15.000 I think that that is, I think you have to double check the media's work on a routine basis and try and extricate, try and separate the opinion from the fact in their news stories.

00:18:23.000 I think that's your job as a consumer of news.

00:18:25.000 So I am fully aware of media bias.

00:18:27.000 I've ripped about media bias many times on the air with CNN, right?

00:18:30.000 I'm the guy who went on CNN and during the last Gaza war suggested that if Hamas could have a news outlet, it would look exactly like CNN.

00:18:37.000 I'm not shy about saying to various hosts on various networks that their networks are biased.

00:18:43.000 I said this, I remember, to Martin Bashir before he lost his job at MSNBC, that MSNBC is a left-wing network, and that they bias their news that way.

00:18:50.000 And so, President Trump isn't wrong about that, but when he says enemy of the people, not my favorite term, because it does have certain connotations that are just not correct, okay?

00:18:58.000 They're not the enemy of the people, they are just biased sources for a truth they think they are purveying when they purport to be objective.

00:19:05.000 In any case,

00:19:06.000 Jim Acosta has now made a pretty solid living off of acting like he is victimized by the American people who don't trust him.

00:19:12.000 Now, the reason we don't trust Jim Acosta is not because Trump said enemy of the people.

00:19:16.000 This is such a left-wing myth that the right wing, we actually loved the media until President Trump came around.

00:19:21.000 Then Trump came around, he said mean stuff about the media. 0.99

00:19:23.000 And then we were all like, oh man, those guys do suck. 0.96

00:19:27.000 In like 2001, I think, Bernard Goldberg wrote a book called Bias about bias in the media. 0.97

00:19:32.000 It was a number one New York Times bestseller because everyone on the right has hated the media for decades.

00:19:37.000 Because the media are wildly biased and always have been, certainly as long as I've been alive.

00:19:41.000 Going back even further than that, when you had Walter Cronkite, who was a leftist, and Edward Murrow, who was a leftist, as the quote-unquote trusted voices of the American news media.

00:19:49.000 So the media has been biased for literally generations in the United States.

00:19:53.000 It's not that Trump

00:19:54.000 Made us hate the media.

00:19:55.000 It's that we hated the media and then Trump took advantage of the fact that we hated the media.

00:19:58.000 That's exactly what happened in election 2016.

00:20:00.000 How do I know this?

00:20:01.000 Because in election 2012, Newt Gingrich jumped to a presidential lead, specifically by smacking around John Harwood in the middle of a presidential debate. 0.73

00:20:09.000 He said, you guys are the biased media, you're awful.

00:20:10.000 And everyone, yeah, that guy should be president.

00:20:13.000 Really, it's not unique to Trump.

00:20:15.000 In any case, 0.75

00:20:16.000 Jim Acosta now makes a living going around pretending that history started in the last 15 minutes and that now the right hates the media and we don't like Jim Acosta, not because Jim Acosta is bad at his job, which he is, spoiler alert, but also that we really hate the media because Donald Trump is a big old meanie.

00:20:30.000 So he goes to the White House and he decides this is going to be his Sam Donaldson moment.

00:20:34.000 He's going to sit there and he's going to grill Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, over whether the media are the enemies of the people.

00:20:41.000 Now, before I show you the clip, before I play for you the clip,

00:20:44.000 Remember what Sarah Huckabee Sanders' job is. 1.00

00:20:46.000 Her job is not to express the opinions of Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:20:49.000 That is specifically not her opinion.

00:20:50.000 This is why somebody from the White House once asked me, would I be interested in working for the White House press office, which is hilarious.

00:20:57.000 And my answer was, of course, no, because I prefer to express my own opinion, not the opinion of the president.

00:21:01.000 Her job is to express the president's opinion.

00:21:04.000 It is not her job to express her own opinion, or Jim Acosta's opinion, or anybody else's opinion.

00:21:08.000 And if she did that, she would not be doing her job.

00:21:11.000 Jim Acosta suggests to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I need you, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, to tell me that the media are not the enemy of the people.

00:21:17.000 But that's not her job.

00:21:19.000 And Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I think, clocks him pretty good.

00:21:21.000 He has this coming.

00:21:23.000 You did not say, in the course of those remarks that you just made, that the press is not the enemy of the people.

00:21:30.000 For the sake of this room, the people who are in this room, this democracy, this country, all the people around the world are watching what you're saying, Sarah.

00:21:39.000 And the White House, for the United States of America, the President of the United States should not refer to us as the enemy of the people.

00:21:45.000 His own daughter acknowledges that, and all I'm asking you to do, Sarah, is to acknowledge that right now and right here.

00:21:52.000 I appreciate your passion.

00:21:54.000 I share it.

00:21:55.000 I've addressed this question.

00:21:57.000 I've addressed my personal feelings.

00:21:58.000 I'm here to speak on behalf of the president.

00:22:00.000 He's made his comments clear.

00:22:01.000 OK, and she's exactly right.

00:22:03.000 That is, in fact, her job.

00:22:05.000 Her job is not to reflect what Jim Acosta wants to say or what Sarah Huckabee Sanders wants to say.

00:22:08.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders is not an elected official.

00:22:11.000 She works at the pleasure of the president of the United States.

00:22:13.000 End of story.

00:22:14.000 Now, do I like what Trump says?

00:22:15.000 No!

00:22:16.000 Again, I would bet you money that if you got Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the phone off the record right now, she would tell you the same thing.

00:22:21.000 I'll bet you that she doesn't like that line either.

00:22:23.000 But, does that matter?

00:22:24.000 No, because that's not her job.

00:22:26.000 And the whole point, and Acosta knows that's not her job, and his whole point here is to somehow shame Sarah Huckabee Sanders as an individual human being.

00:22:32.000 If he wants to go out and yell this question to Trump, go and yell it at Trump.

00:22:35.000 You want to grill Sarah Huckabee Sanders over Trump's perspective? 1.00

00:22:38.000 Do that!

00:22:39.000 But to make Sarah Huckabee Sanders the enemy here is pretty absurd.

00:22:42.000 And Sarah Huckabee Sanders has another response that is just as good.

00:22:45.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she then goes off on CNN.

00:22:49.000 I'm going to play that for you in just a second.

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00:24:15.000 Okay, so, Sarah Huckabee Sanders is grilled by Jim Acosta, who wants, he wants her to admit right here, right now, the press are not the enemy of the people!

00:24:24.000 Sarah, tell me!

00:24:25.000 Again.

00:24:26.000 Are the press the enemy of the people?

00:24:27.000 No.

00:24:28.000 Is it Sarah Huckabee Sanders' job to express her own opinion?

00:24:30.000 No.

00:24:31.000 And then, Sarah Huckabee Sanders basically wheels around with a George Foreman-like punch and knocks Jim Acosta through the wall, mentioning the fact that, you know, while you talk about how the press are the victims of the President of the United States, you guys have been pretty awful to Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:24:46.000 Here's Sarah Huckabee Sanders explaining.

00:24:47.000 Repeatedly, repeatedly, the media resorts to personal attacks without any content other than to incite anger.

00:24:54.000 The media has attacked me personally on a number of occasions, including your own network, said I should be harassed as a life sentence, that I should be choked.

00:25:03.000 ICE officials are not welcomed in their place of worship and personal information is shared on the internet.

00:25:08.000 When I was hosted by the Correspondents Association, of which almost all of you are members of, you brought a comedian up to attack my appearance and call me a traitor to my own gender.

00:25:18.000 In fact, as I know, as far as I know, I'm the first press secretary in the history of the United States that's required Secret Service protection.

00:25:26.000 The media continues to ratchet up the verbal assault against the president and everyone in this administration.

00:25:32.000 And certainly we have a role to play, but the media has a role to play for the discourse in this country as well.

00:25:37.000 That is 100% true, right?

00:25:38.000 What she said there is 197% true, right?

00:25:39.000 It is just as pure as Omega-3, Omex,

00:25:47.000 I mean, is that pure?

00:25:48.000 It is absolutely pure stuff.

00:25:50.000 It is 100% pure.

00:25:51.000 OK, what she says there, that the media have been complicit in the failures of trust and the battle between the media and President Trump, is exactly right.

00:25:59.000 And then, so what does Jim Acosta do with this information?

00:26:01.000 Jim Acosta, who loves him some Jim Acosta.

00:26:03.000 What does he do with this information where he has been told, you know, you guys might want to stop.

00:26:07.000 Creating a situation where I need security by Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:26:11.000 You might want to create a situation where you treat people fairly and then maybe there won't be so many people who are willing to treat you unfairly.

00:26:17.000 Maybe we all ought to go weapons down.

00:26:19.000 So what does Jim Acosta do?

00:26:20.000 He goes on TV and he preens.

00:26:22.000 He goes on CNN and he preens, he says, we should make bumper stickers!

00:26:26.000 Because he's a reporter, guys, an objective news reporter.

00:26:29.000 This is some serious journalisming you are seeing right here from Jim Acosta.

00:26:32.000 He goes on CNN, we should make bumper stickers, we should rally, we should get out there in front of the White House.

00:26:37.000 Journalists unite!

00:26:38.000 And then Jim Acosta reveals the fact that he is just as bad at inventing chants as he is at journalisming.

00:26:44.000 Here he is explaining his bumper stickers.

00:26:46.000 I think maybe we should make some bumper stickers, make some buttons. 0.96

00:26:52.000 Maybe we should go out on Pennsylvania Avenue like these folks who chant CNN sucks and fake news.

00:26:58.000 Maybe we should go out, all journalists should go out on Pennsylvania Avenue and chant we're not the enemy of the people. 0.75

00:27:04.000 That's a bad chant.

00:27:05.000 That's a bad chant.

00:27:06.000 Also, if you really, that'll definitely work, Jim.

00:27:09.000 That will definitely work.

00:27:10.000 We don't trust you at all.

00:27:11.000 So I think what you should really do, and we don't trust you in large part because of your disparate treatment of Democrats and Republicans.

00:27:17.000 So I think what you really should do is you should probably go out in front of the White House where a Republican resides, and then you should chant, you're not the enemy of the people, in opposition to Donald Trump supporters.

00:27:27.000 Absolutely, we'll respect you more then.

00:27:29.000 You shouldn't do better in terms of your journalisming.

00:27:31.000 You shouldn't actually try to be more objective.

00:27:33.000 You shouldn't try to worship yourself a little bit less, Jim Acosta.

00:27:35.000 Instead, what you should do is you should go out there and chant about how awesome you are.

00:27:39.000 That'll probably fix all the things.

00:27:41.000 Okay, this is just Jim Acosta catering to his base.

00:27:43.000 Now again, President Trump caters to his base too.

00:27:45.000 The difference is what their jobs are.

00:27:48.000 President Trump is a politician.

00:27:50.000 President Trump says a lot of things to cater to his base that I don't agree with and that I find abhorrent in many cases.

00:27:55.000 But he is a politician catering to a base.

00:27:57.000 Jim Acosta's job is not to cater to his base.

00:28:00.000 Jim Acosta's job is to ask questions of administrations that actually have content.

00:28:04.000 His job is not to be an activist.

00:28:06.000 If he wants to be an activist, there are plenty of places for him to do that.

00:28:08.000 If he wants to do opinion journalism,

00:28:10.000 Then he should just say, I'm an opinion journalist.

00:28:12.000 I, Ben Shapiro, am an opinion journalist, right?

00:28:14.000 I cover the news and I have an opinion.

00:28:16.000 And you all know where I stand.

00:28:17.000 I'm not hiding the ball.

00:28:18.000 The reason people don't trust Jim Acosta is not because he's left wing.

00:28:21.000 The reason people don't trust Jim Acosta is because he proclaims he is not left wing while acting exactly like a correspondent for the Daily Kos.

00:28:28.000 Okay, and then he continues along these lines.

00:28:30.000 He says, I'm just, I'm so tired of this.

00:28:33.000 Who cares whether you're tired of this, Jim Acosta?

00:28:34.000 Why are you the story?

00:28:36.000 Why is Jim Acosta the story?

00:28:37.000 I don't understand.

00:28:38.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.

00:28:39.000 I'm tired of this.

00:28:41.000 Honestly, Brooke, I'm tired of this.

00:28:44.000 It is not right.

00:28:46.000 It is not fair.

00:28:47.000 It is not just.

00:28:48.000 It is un-American. 0.86

00:28:50.000 Okay.

00:28:51.000 Okay.

00:28:52.000 Like, get off your Aaron Sorkin West Wing script now, Jim.

00:28:55.000 And why don't you actually try to do your job?

00:28:58.000 It's un-American. 0.82

00:28:59.000 I'm so tired of this.

00:29:00.000 Yeah, I'm sure you have it rough, Jim.

00:29:02.000 I'm sure things are real rough for you.

00:29:03.000 Cumming is a guy who needed 600 police officers to protect him when he wanted to just speak at Berkeley.

00:29:08.000 I'm sure it's real rough for you that the president calls you mean names.

00:29:11.000 Ooh.

00:29:12.000 Again, should the president call you those mean names?

00:29:14.000 No.

00:29:14.000 But are we going to pretend that this is like the end of the world that the president says this stuff?

00:29:19.000 I'm not going to pretend that either, because it just, come on, come on.

00:29:22.000 And here's the thing.

00:29:23.000 The double standard is just, it's glaring, and that's why people don't trust members of the media.

00:29:27.000 So, another example.

00:29:28.000 There was a BBC host yesterday who was interviewing Sean Spicer.

00:29:30.000 Now, Sean Spicer was not a good White House press secretary.

00:29:33.000 Right, Sean Spicer always looked like he was dying a little bit behind his eyes.

00:29:36.000 Like, if you could look through into Sean Spicer's soul, every time he had to get up there and talk about crowd size and act all angry, you could see that there was a part of Sean Spicer that wanted to crawl into a hole and just plot.

00:29:47.000 Okay, but Sean Spicer, that said,

00:29:49.000 Sean Spicer did the same job that Jake Harney did when he was at the White House, which is to lie for the president.

00:29:53.000 Let's be honest about what the White House press secretary does.

00:29:55.000 The job of the White House press secretary is to lie for the president of the United States.

00:29:58.000 This has been true as long as I have been alive, basically.

00:30:01.000 There are very few press secretaries who don't do it.

00:30:03.000 I really do think that members of the Bush administration did it less.

00:30:06.000 But Jake Harney used to get up there every day and say, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, knowing full well that wasn't true.

00:30:11.000 Robert Gibbs used to do the exact same thing.

00:30:13.000 I confronted Robert Gibbs about this in 2012 at the DNC, I remember.

00:30:16.000 You know, so anyway, Sean Spicer goes on BBC and the BBC correspondent says, It only applies to Sean Spicer because it's brand new.

00:30:24.000 The world started turning yesterday.

00:30:34.000 You joked about it when you presented the Emmy Awards, but it wasn't a joke.

00:30:38.000 It was the start of the most corrosive culture.

00:30:41.000 You played with the truth.

00:30:42.000 You led us down a dangerous path.

00:30:44.000 You have corrupted discourse for the entire world by going along with these lies.

00:30:50.000 Solid journalism in there.

00:30:51.000 Instead of just asking a question like, Sean Spicer, did you mean it when you said that the president had the largest inaugural crowd?

00:30:57.000 There are a thousand ways to pin people to the wall.

00:30:59.000 I do it for a living.

00:31:00.000 It's not difficult.

00:31:01.000 There are a thousand ways you could pin him to the wall on dishonesty, but saying that he corrupted the entire discourse is so free of all context in the American political system that it's just absurd.

00:31:10.000 This is absurd!

00:31:11.000 You're right.

00:31:12.000 It wasn't Bill Clinton stooping interns in the Oval Office and lying about it to the public that corrupted the political discourse.

00:31:18.000 It wasn't that.

00:31:19.000 It wasn't Joe Biden going out there and saying that Mitt Romney wanted to put black people back in chains.

00:31:23.000 That didn't corrupt the political discourse in any way.

00:31:26.000 It wasn't Barack Obama lying repeatedly about both immigration and healthcare.

00:31:29.000 That didn't corrupt the discourse in any way at all.

00:31:31.000 For that matter, it wasn't JFK shtupping 18-year-old interns in the White House.

00:31:36.000 That didn't corrupt America in any way.

00:31:37.000 It didn't corrupt America in any way when Watergate happened. 0.96

00:31:41.000 American politics was clean up to the point when Trump took office.

00:31:43.000 Did you know this?

00:31:44.000 Breaking news!

00:31:44.000 American politics was awesome, clean, and pure as the driven snow until Donald Trump took office, at which point evil people like Sean Spicer came in and sullied up the place.

00:31:52.000 They just got mud all over the curtains.

00:31:55.000 You're wondering why we don't trust the media?

00:31:57.000 This is why we don't trust the media.

00:31:59.000 OK, now, with that said, in a second, I want to talk about, you know, President Trump's impact on the party, because I don't think it's been entirely good on these things.

00:32:07.000 I think that we can be honest and still destroy the media.

00:32:09.000 I don't think you have to be dishonest to destroy the media.

00:32:11.000 And I also don't think that you have to say things that are over the top in order to destroy the media.

00:32:15.000 At least the media's dishonesty.

00:32:16.000 I don't think that our goal should be to quote unquote destroy the media as much as it should be to club them back into covering things objectively or at least announcing their own political allegiances.

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00:33:44.000 Okay, so let's talk a little bit about the impact that President Trump has had on the party.

00:33:47.000 So I've talked about why does the media get all of this deeply, deeply wrong.

00:33:52.000 Let's now talk about the fact that the president's rhetoric undercuts a lot of the good things that other Republicans are trying to do.

00:33:59.000 I want to be honest about what I think the president is doing.

00:34:01.000 I think that the president's actions, in many cases this administration's actions, are extraordinarily good.

00:34:07.000 Judges, regulation, foreign policy.

00:34:09.000 I agree with a lot of what the president has done.

00:34:11.000 I do.

00:34:12.000 But the president's rhetoric with regard to these things undercuts a lot of what Republicans are trying to do.

00:34:16.000 Because we have a really good record to run on as conservatives.

00:34:18.000 The economy is great.

00:34:20.000 There was a new wage report out today that is terrific for the president.

00:34:22.000 Why that isn't the top of the news cycle?

00:34:24.000 Well, because every day is a new news cycle driven by the president's Twitter account or personal animus.

00:34:30.000 So the latest example of this is that the RNC, the Republican National Committee, is now warning that candidates should stay away from the Koch brothers.

00:34:39.000 She delivered her message via a memo.

00:34:41.000 This is unacceptable.

00:34:48.000 And then she says she's upset because the Kochs have developed their own data program rivaling that of the RNC.

00:34:54.000 She says,

00:35:05.000 Sadly, our concerns were recently proven true.

00:35:07.000 That is not the case.

00:35:09.000 This is a slander against the Kochs.

00:35:10.000 And that is driven specifically because Trump doesn't like the Koch brothers.

00:35:13.000 He's mad at them because they are pro-legal immigration, particularly they're kind of open borders libertarian on a lot of these issues.

00:35:20.000 And so Trump is very angry at them for that.

00:35:22.000 And so he's slandering the Kochs.

00:35:23.000 The Kochs are worth $80 billion.

00:35:25.000 $80 billion with a B. Do you really think that the reason that they aren't opposing Heidi Heitkamp in North Dakota is because they have to protect their business interests?

00:35:34.000 Or maybe it's because they've been lifelong libertarians who have held these positions for legitimately decades.

00:35:38.000 And they've funded a wide variety of projects, libertarian projects, ranging from the Cato Institute to other foundations on the right and backed a variety of candidates.

00:35:47.000 And this sort of RNC sudden animus against the Koch brothers is really dishonest.

00:35:51.000 And the implication that they are doing this for corrupt, sleazy business reasons is quite absurd.

00:35:56.000 And that's just a reflection of the fact that the president is angry at the Koch brothers.

00:35:59.000 The Republican Party should not become a tool of the president's id.

00:36:03.000 When the president doesn't like something, that doesn't mean that it's bad.

00:36:05.000 Sometimes it just means that the president is wrong.

00:36:07.000 That happens.

00:36:08.000 That happens from time to time.

00:36:10.000 Another example of this is Ivanka yesterday.

00:36:12.000 Ivanka Trump, who very often is sort of the moderate face of the administration, she was asked about the president's enemy of the people talk, and here's what Ivanka Trump had to say.

00:36:21.000 Sorry?

00:36:22.000 Do you think the media is the enemy of the people?

00:36:24.000 No, I do not.

00:36:25.000 That's not a view that's shared in your family.

00:36:31.000 Are you looking for me to elaborate?

00:36:34.000 No, I don't.

00:36:36.000 I have some sensitivity around why people have concerns and gripe, especially when they're

00:36:45.000 Okay, so that is an actually mature approach to the subject of the press.

00:36:54.000 And President Trump immediately responded by attempting to basically take that comment from Ivanka Trump and turn it into, yeah, she actually thinks that the press is the enemy of the people. 0.98

00:37:03.000 So here's what Trump tweeted out.

00:37:05.000 He tweeted out,

00:37:17.000 All right.

00:37:18.000 So, you know, is this is this good stuff?

00:37:19.000 Is this good for the future of conservatism?

00:37:22.000 No, this is not good for the future of conservatism.

00:37:24.000 We should all be angry when the media bias their case.

00:37:27.000 We should all be angry when they are not objective.

00:37:29.000 But the president's kind of blunderbuss language when it comes to the media is not useful.

00:37:33.000 And the fact that he is trying to cudgel Ivanka Trump into now, she really does believe that the fake news are the enemy of the people.

00:37:39.000 See, in order to understand why this tweet is so funny, you have to understand that Trump thinks that virtually all media that are against him are fake news.

00:37:46.000 So Ivanka Trump says, if you ask Ivanka Trump, do you think the fake news is fake news?

00:37:50.000 She'd say, no, I think that there's news that is biased.

00:37:52.000 I think that, like, I've met with Ivanka Trump.

00:37:54.000 I know Ivanka Trump.

00:37:55.000 I do not think that Ivanka Trump is somebody who is sitting around going fake news all day. 0.84

00:37:59.000 And she's been targeted, by the way, much more unfairly than President Trump.

00:38:02.000 You want to talk about people who have been absolutely badgered by the media for no reason whatsoever?

00:38:06.000 Ivanka Trump is at the top of that list, right?

00:38:07.000 Ivanka Trump got blasted by the media for having the gall to take an Instagram photo with her own children in the middle of the immigration debate.

00:38:15.000 And then it became, she's out of touch. 0.74

00:38:17.000 She's cruel.

00:38:18.000 How dare she be with her kids when other parents are separated from their kids? 0.99

00:38:21.000 Ivanka, by the way, opposed that separation policy.

00:38:23.000 So it's...

00:38:25.000 You know, she has more reason, at least every reason that President Trump has, to be angry with the media.

00:38:30.000 When President Trump, he does differ from Ivanka on this topic, but the idea that we're supposed to follow Trump down every rabbit hole, I just, I find it unconvincing.

00:38:38.000 Unconvincing at best.

00:38:39.000 Specifically because it's distracting from the mission, which is to get things done.

00:38:43.000 Right?

00:38:43.000 Trump says he wants to get things done.

00:38:44.000 Okay, fine, so get things done.

00:38:45.000 Now, Rudy Giuliani was asked about 2018, and here was his take on what 2018 election is going to be about.

00:38:50.000 He's framing this midterm election in do-or-die terms for the Trump White House.

00:38:55.000 But this election is going to be about impeachment or no impeachment.

00:38:59.000 OK, so if you really think that that's going to get people out to the polls, if you think that 2018 should be a referendum on whether to impeach President Trump or not, you're missing the fact that what it really should be is a referendum on President Trump's record.

00:39:10.000 It should be a referendum on the fact that the economy is awesome.

00:39:12.000 It should be a referendum on the fact that Iran has now been contained in a more superior way than it was when Obama was letting them out of the box to destroy the Middle East. 0.97

00:39:19.000 It should be a referendum on President Trump's regulatory policy.

00:39:22.000 It should be a referendum on all of the areas where the Trump administration has done well and the areas where they've done poorly.

00:39:28.000 Instead, by focusing in on Trump and making Trump the center of the political universe, what you have done is turned Republican politics into a black hole of suck in which anything Trump does that is bad allows the media to ramp things up to 11, and it's not going to be good for Republicans come the election of 2018.

00:39:43.000 We should always be arguing principles, issues, and the stuff that works.

00:39:47.000 And yes, that includes fighting the cultural battles that matter.

00:39:50.000 But it doesn't include the president's personal animus for the Koch brothers or his sudden enjoyment of the phrase enemy of the people.

00:39:56.000 Okay, in just a second.

00:39:59.000 Well, let's do some mailbag.

00:40:00.000 You know, let's do some mailbag.

00:40:01.000 So it's a Friday, you sent in your letters, and now we get to answer them.

00:40:07.000 Well, I mean, usually I go to my yacht, and then I smoke as many expensive cigars as I can, lighting $100 bills on fire, and then I cut a music video with Jay-Z.

00:40:20.000 That's usually how I stay grounded after work.

00:40:23.000 In reality, I have two kids under five.

00:40:26.000 They run around, and they bother people, and they're wonderful, and I have a wife, and I have things I need to do at home, and I have a religious obligation that I fulfill as much as I can every day.

00:40:36.000 And so, I don't find it particularly hard to stay grounded, because life grounds you if you are willing to let it.

00:40:42.000 But you have to be willing to let it ground you.

00:40:44.000 Jacob says,

00:40:46.000 With regard to your stance on pre-existing conditions, how are people like me, having had a disability since my mom was in a car accident and five months pregnant with me, afford necessary medical equipment?

00:40:54.000 Thanks, Jake.

00:40:55.000 Well, my take is that this is where private charity really should play a significant role.

00:41:00.000 I mean, if you were in my Jewish community, when in my community, I really believe in churches and synagogues and community support systems.

00:41:06.000 If there are people in my community who have a problem, typically they go to the rabbi of the community.

00:41:10.000 The rabbi then makes an appeal to the people of the shul, and then everybody sort of pitches in to help out. 0.63

00:41:15.000 The American people are extraordinarily generous, but suggesting that insurance companies should not be insurance companies is silly.

00:41:20.000 It's not an insurance company if they are covering something that has already happened.

00:41:23.000 An insurance policy is taken out.

00:41:25.000 This is just definitional.

00:41:26.000 An insurance policy is taken out against something that could happen in the future but has not yet happened.

00:41:31.000 You can't burn down your house and then buy a fire insurance policy.

00:41:33.000 That's not the way it works because then you're paying in five bucks for a five million dollar payout.

00:41:37.000 You can't do that.

00:41:38.000 You bankrupt the insurance company.

00:41:39.000 That's not insurance.

00:41:40.000 That said, the best way health insurance should actually run seriously is that people should be purchasing health insurance on their own.

00:41:48.000 We should end the employer-based health insurance system.

00:41:50.000 Your mom should have been able to 0.98

00:41:51.000 Not have to have her health insurance linked to her company.

00:41:54.000 She should have been paying for her health insurance as she went along. 0.98

00:41:56.000 You should be part of a group health insurance program that is formed with your religious community.

00:42:00.000 There are group co-ops that are exactly like this.

00:42:02.000 And that's the way that we should fix this system.

00:42:04.000 Not with suggesting insurance companies ought to not be insurance companies.

00:42:12.000 So, I love ragtime music.

00:42:13.000 I think ragtime music is a lot of fun.

00:42:15.000 And it is sort of a crossover between jazz, it's very early jazz basically, because it's all syncopated rhythm, and classical music.

00:42:22.000 It's terrific.

00:42:23.000 I love ragtime, which is one of the reasons I love the movie The Sting, because the entire score is Scott Joplin, which actually doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense, because it takes place in the 1930s, and ragtime is really from the 1910s and 1920s.

00:42:34.000 But it works in context.

00:42:37.000 If I wore Disney?

00:42:43.000 Okay, so here's what they will do.

00:42:47.000 What they will do is they will launch a whole series of movies with Rey and Finn and Poe and all the characters you've come to know and be lukewarm about.

00:42:53.000 But what should they do?

00:42:55.000 What they really should do is they should pretend none of this ever happened.

00:42:59.000 They should pretend the prequels didn't happen.

00:43:00.000 They should pretend the sequels didn't happen.

00:43:02.000 They should recast Han, they should recast Luke, they should recast Leia, and they should pick up right where Return of the Jedi left off.

00:43:07.000 That's what they actually should do, because those are the characters that you like, and they've already shown that they can recast Han.

00:43:12.000 Like, Alden Ehrenreich did, I thought, a creditable job as Han Solo in the latest Solo movie, which I actually enjoyed.

00:43:17.000 I think that what they should have done is just picked up afterward.

00:43:19.000 They shouldn't do prequels for characters that they... The problem with Solo, the reason it didn't do well, is because, spoiler alert,

00:43:25.000 In Force Awakens, they kill Han Solo in the worst, stupidest possible way, thereby destroying my childhood and making him a divorced loser dad murdered by his son. 0.96

00:43:32.000 Okay, it's a terrible, terrible way for Han Solo to go. 0.99

00:43:35.000 Then they decide, you know what?

00:43:36.000 Let's make a prequel about that guy.

00:43:38.000 Well, why would I want to watch a prequel about a guy whose end I already know? 0.98

00:43:41.000 That's ridiculous and silly. 0.98

00:43:42.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.84

00:43:44.000 What they should do is they should just get the only good, really, the only good movies in the Star Wars canon are Rogue One, which has very little to do with anything outside of the original trilogy and makes very slight reference to some of the prequels.

00:43:59.000 So keep Rogue One, keep the original three movies.

00:44:02.000 If you want to keep Solo, fine, I guess.

00:44:04.000 Dump everything else, pretend Force Awakens never happened, certainly pretend Last Jedi never happened, and take Kathleen Kennedy's resume and burn it on a funeral pyre.

00:44:12.000 Okay, Chelsea says, Dear Benjamin, What does a typical day look like for you religiously as an Orthodox Jew?

00:44:18.000 What rituals, traditions do you have to do?

00:44:19.000 How strict is your diet?

00:44:20.000 Also, with your day so full with work and adhering to the tenets of your religion, how do you find time to control the weather?

00:44:25.000 Is there an app on your phone?

00:44:26.000 Or is there like an antenna thing under the funny hat?

00:44:28.000 Thanks for all you do to teach actual conservative values.

00:44:30.000 Well,

00:44:31.000 As far as controlling the weather goes, it really doesn't take a whole hell of a lot of effort.

00:44:34.000 I mean, you are talking to a dude who literally sat here and destroyed half the MCU.

00:44:40.000 Okay, I didn't do anything.

00:44:41.000 I sat here and half the MCU was gone.

00:44:44.000 Okay, so controlling the weather is really not a problem for me.

00:44:48.000 It's really not that big a deal.

00:44:51.000 What's my schedule?

00:44:51.000 I get up in the morning, I pray.

00:44:53.000 In the afternoon, I pray.

00:44:54.000 In the evening, I pray.

00:44:55.000 Jews pray three times a day.

00:44:56.000 I wish I had more of an opportunity to pray with what you call a minion, which is a group of ten people, which you're supposed to do.

00:45:01.000 You're picking the right day to do this.

00:45:02.000 We have a rabbi visiting the studio, so I'm going to act a lot more religious than I actually am in my daily life.

00:45:07.000 But I keep full kosher, which means I'll only eat at kosher restaurants, or I'll only eat food that is made according to particular standards.

00:45:13.000 I can give you the whole spiel on what kashrut is and why it exists and what the restrictions are.

00:45:19.000 And I keep Sabbath, which means that from Friday night to Saturday night to one hour past sunset on Saturday night, I don't use any electric devices.

00:45:27.000 So I'm not on my phone.

00:45:28.000 I'm not tweeting.

00:45:28.000 I'm not using my computer.

00:45:30.000 Somebody asked earlier, how do I keep grounded?

00:45:32.000 One of the ways you keep grounded is you turn off your phone, you turn off your computer and you have Shabbat, right?

00:45:35.000 So Sabbath really does keep you grounded in a pretty significant way.

00:45:39.000 Joe says, hey, Ben.

00:45:40.000 My best friend was hit by a drunk driver in 2015 and has suffered serious injuries that almost ended his life.

00:45:44.000 He will forever have physical limitations.

00:45:46.000 The person who hit him was on bar cameras drinking excessive amounts of alcohol and blew a .17 an hour after the incident occurred.

00:45:53.000 My question is, what are your views on dram shop rules, laws that make bars liable for over-serving?

00:45:57.000 Should bars be held responsible for over-serving people who are obviously intoxicated?

00:46:01.000 Love the show and thanks.

00:46:02.000 So I do have a problem with dram shop rules.

00:46:04.000 I think the idea of holding a bar responsible for a patron voluntarily intoxicating themselves beyond the legal limit

00:46:10.000 I think it sets a dangerous precedent.

00:46:12.000 It seems to me that that verges on making gun shops liable for somebody coming in, buying a gun, and then shooting somebody.

00:46:18.000 I'm not a big fan of dram shop rules.

00:46:21.000 The argument against, just to present the counter argument, is that once somebody is intoxicated, they no longer have the power to make independent judgments.

00:46:26.000 And so you are basically preying on them by selling them alcohol.

00:46:29.000 But in just the same way that our law suggests that you are responsible for first degree murder if you get in the car drunk and hit somebody, you are responsible for getting drunk if you decide to get drunk.

00:46:39.000 So I'm not a big fan of holding the bartender liable for any of that.

00:46:43.000 I'm a bigger fan of holding the responsible individual, holding responsible the individual who's actually participating in the behavior.

00:46:51.000 Yeah, any Californian who has a business or who operates in the state has thought about moving.

00:46:54.000 There are a couple reasons why I stay.

00:46:55.000 I mean, obviously the weather, which I control.

00:46:57.000 Second of all,

00:47:09.000 Second of all, as an Orthodox Jew, I have to be in a place that has a significant number of kosher restaurants and, more importantly, Jewish schools for my kids, and so that limits the number of places I can live.

00:47:20.000 I would love to be able to go and buy a huge estate in Montana or something and create my own country.

00:47:25.000 That would be great.

00:47:26.000 But there are no kosher shops in Montana, I'd have to learn how to slaughter cattle, and that's really not on my agenda.

00:47:30.000 So, that means that they're really only—the truth is, the Orthodox Jewish community is centralized in a few places around the United States.

00:47:36.000 It's in New York, it's in Dallas, it's in Chicago, it's in L.A.

00:47:38.000 L.A.

00:47:38.000 is the second biggest Jewish population in the United States, after New York, and so it limits the sort of places I can live, and L.A.

00:47:45.000 is better than New York.

00:47:45.000 I mean, come on.

00:47:46.000 Come on.

00:47:47.000 I mean, LA is just way better than New York in every possible way.

00:47:50.000 First of all, it's not filled with New Yorkers.

00:47:51.000 So there's that.

00:47:52.000 Okay, let's see.

00:47:53.000 Drew says, Dear Ben, Although I am not a big fan of his, Rousseau said something to the effect that in order for people to properly vote in a democracy, they must be properly educated.

00:48:01.000 Therefore, it would be the responsibility of the government to educate the population.

00:48:04.000 Even Thomas Jefferson said something to this effect.

00:48:06.000 My question is, now that the government has taken on the responsibility of education, wouldn't it be proper for the people to take a test in order to vote? 0.90

00:48:12.000 Despite the negative historical implications that poll tests have in this country, I feel this would be a good solution to politicians preying on the ignorant.

00:48:20.000 I'm torn on this question.

00:48:21.000 Obviously, I wish that the American public were more educated, but I think that you'd have to determine what exactly is the standard for those polls, right?

00:48:29.000 I mean, would it have to be knowledge of current events?

00:48:30.000 I'm not sure why it should have to be knowledge of current events.

00:48:33.000 What if you spend your days studying Plato, Aristotle, and Cicero?

00:48:36.000 It seems to me you know enough about politics at that point to vote, and you just never read the newspapers.

00:48:41.000 Hmm, I don't really see why I shouldn't be able to vote.

00:48:43.000 How do you test for that sort of stuff?

00:48:45.000 Is it a literacy test?

00:48:46.000 Well, you know your own interests without a literacy test.

00:48:48.000 So, well, I think the idea is correct, that we should have a more popularly educated group of people voting.

00:48:55.000 I'm not sure how you decide what elements go into a poll test that make you eligible to vote in the first place that don't bias the voting population.

00:49:03.000 I think it would be difficult to figure that out.

00:49:09.000 Well, really, abolishing the IRS is just a byproduct of abolishing the income tax.

00:49:12.000 I think the income tax is an awful, awful institution.

00:49:16.000 The 16th Amendment should be repealed as soon as humanly possible. 0.99

00:49:19.000 It's garbage. 0.98

00:49:20.000 And we should go back to 0.99

00:49:22.000 Sales taxes and state taxes.

00:49:25.000 And the nice thing about a sales tax, you don't need the IRS to enforce it.

00:49:28.000 The nice thing about a sales tax is people just send in the money as a percentage of the sales they rack up.

00:49:33.000 And then you don't need the IRS auditing people.

00:49:35.000 You still need some agency doing it.

00:49:36.000 Maybe you keep the IRS and you call it the IRS, but you cut it down to about five guys, right?

00:49:40.000 As opposed to they now have to dig through every receipt that you took a deduction on.

00:49:44.000 And now they have to go through and they have to determine what your income was.

00:49:47.000 And are you lying about it?

00:49:48.000 Like, it's just, it's a mess.

00:49:49.000 Okay.

00:49:49.000 Sorry.

00:49:50.000 Final question here.

00:49:50.000 Thomas says,

00:49:52.000 Hello, Mr. Shapiro.

00:49:53.000 My daughter recently turned seven and has expressed an interest in learning to play violin.

00:49:56.000 Knowing that you are a masterful violinist, do you have any advice for beginners and for parents with very little experience in music?

00:50:00.000 Well, if you're talking about how your kids should learn violin, the Suzuki method really is good for learning at the very beginning.

00:50:06.000 I studied Suzuki method for probably, let's see, from the time I was five till the time I was maybe eleven.

00:50:11.000 I think so.

00:50:26.000 I mean, that's the answer.

00:50:28.000 I practiced at the beginning, you know, maybe 10, 15 minutes a day.

00:50:32.000 It got to the point where when I was really good, I was practicing, you know, maybe three hours a day or more when I was really first rate.

00:50:37.000 You know, my daughter is learning to play now.

00:50:39.000 She's four and a half, and it's difficult to get her to sit still long enough to practice, but you make her do it, right?

00:50:45.000 I mean, and what I say to her when she doesn't want to practice, OK, well, then we're not going to pay for your lessons, right?

00:50:50.000 If you don't want to practice, then we're not going to actually expend money to go take you to a lesson.

00:50:53.000 You have to, if you want to have your lessons.

00:50:55.000 We're good.

00:51:10.000 Doesn't enjoy school.

00:51:11.000 Just note to mom and dad, your kid doesn't enjoy school, you make them go anyway.

00:51:14.000 Because if you think it's important for your kid to learn a musical instrument and be good at it, do it that way.

00:51:17.000 Also, I'm not a fan of the, my kid plays 11 instruments, then your kid's terrible at all of them in all likelihood, right?

00:51:23.000 In reality, your kid's really only gonna be good at one instrument, maybe two, if your kid is extraordinarily talented.

00:51:28.000 Don't do this, oh, but he plays just a little bit of trumpet.

00:51:31.000 No, he doesn't.

00:51:32.000 He blasts a horrible sound out of a trumpet, and then he goes and makes a horrible sound on the violin.

00:51:36.000 He doesn't play trumpet or violin.

00:51:37.000 OK, let's do some things I like and then some things that I hate, and then we'll get out of here for the weekend.

00:51:42.000 OK, so things I like.

00:51:45.000 Speaking of classical musicians and classical training, I took my four and a half year old daughter to the Hollywood Bowl the other night.

00:51:50.000 It is a blast.

00:51:51.000 If you've never been to the Hollywood Bowl, one of the reasons to live in L.A.

00:51:53.000 is to go to the Hollywood Bowl, because it is just it's this beautiful outdoor venue.

00:51:57.000 It was like 75 degrees that night with with a breeze.

00:52:00.000 And you're watching great musicians play great music.

00:52:03.000 In the middle of, basically, a wooded area of Los Angeles.

00:52:06.000 It's just fantastic.

00:52:07.000 So, my daughter... I was really proud of her.

00:52:09.000 She sat through an hour and a half concert of Grieg.

00:52:13.000 So she sat through the Pyrrhgian Suite, and she also sat through the Grieg Piano Concerto.

00:52:17.000 So, good for her.

00:52:18.000 I mean, she's... My daughter's awesome.

00:52:19.000 She's really bright and awesome.

00:52:22.000 I like her.

00:52:23.000 In any case, I don't like you, but I like her.

00:52:24.000 In any case, she's, so she, she sat through this, the pianist is a guy named George Lee, and he is just tremendous.

00:52:31.000 Okay, so he played the Greek piano concerto.

00:52:33.000 Very good performance.

00:52:34.000 And then he played an encore.

00:52:35.000 And the encore that he played was a riff on Bizet's Carmen by, that was written by Vladimir Horowitz, one of the great pianists of the 20th century.

00:52:44.000 And here is a recording of him doing this.

00:52:46.000 He's just terrific.

00:52:47.000 If you want to, you can check out his recordings.

00:52:49.000 I think we won a silver at the International Tchaikovsky Competition.

00:52:53.000 He's incredible.

00:52:54.000 My dad's a professional pianist.

00:52:55.000 So my dad was sitting next to me.

00:52:56.000 I was sitting here.

00:52:57.000 My wife was sitting here. 1.00

00:52:58.000 My daughter was sitting here.

00:52:58.000 My dad was sitting on the other side.

00:53:00.000 And my dad was just, his jaw hit the floor when he saw this guy play.

00:53:03.000 He's only 23, I think.

00:53:05.000 So here he is playing some Bizet.

00:53:20.000 Those thirds he's playing on top are really difficult.

00:53:46.000 I don't know.

00:54:01.000 So people always ask me why I'm an elitist about music.

00:54:03.000 Because I like skill.

00:54:05.000 It's the same reason I'm an elitist about sports.

00:54:06.000 When I watch basketball, I want to watch the NBA.

00:54:08.000 When I watch baseball, I want to watch the MLB.

00:54:09.000 I don't want to watch college baseball.

00:54:11.000 I don't want to watch college basketball.

00:54:12.000 I want to watch it for the best.

00:54:13.000 This is why when people say, you know, you're very hard on rap.

00:54:16.000 Right.

00:54:16.000 If you were able to pick up a microphone one day and be good at something, it didn't require a lot of skill.

00:54:21.000 Really, seriously, if you have to, this guy trained, I promise you, he was practicing eight hours a day from the time this kid was probably eight years old, okay?

00:54:28.000 That's why he's really good, okay?

00:54:30.000 And you have to admire people who actually spend time perfecting a skill.

00:54:33.000 This holds true in politics also.

00:54:34.000 I get a lot of questions from people.

00:54:36.000 How do I get into politics?

00:54:37.000 The answer is you read and you read and you read, and then you write and then you write and then you write, and then you do this for lots of years, and then you eventually get good at things, right?

00:54:44.000 This is actually how you get good at things.

00:54:45.000 You spend an awful lot of time prepping things.

00:54:47.000 If there's anything you do,

00:54:49.000 Whether it's popular or whether it's not popular.

00:54:51.000 Where it was, oh yeah, I picked up a guitar one day and in three months I was good enough that I could cut CDs and now I'm selling a million records.

00:54:57.000 Okay, that means that you're popular.

00:54:58.000 It doesn't mean that you've done anything that I think is extraordinarily worthy of praise.

00:55:02.000 This is a general rule.

00:55:03.000 As a general rule, I think that you ought to have to put in an enormous amount of time to demonstrate this kind of skill.

00:55:08.000 I'm not going to pretend that I think that this guy and Taylor Swift are on the same level.

00:55:11.000 They ain't.

00:55:11.000 Sorry, Sonya.

00:55:12.000 They're not, okay?

00:55:13.000 Like, Taylor Swift plays a few chords on guitar, and then she writes wordy lyrics that are somewhat charming sometimes.

00:55:19.000 That's as much as you're going to get out of me.

00:55:20.000 And then...

00:55:21.000 And if you're going to compare that or you can compare rap or somebody cannot even rhyme, OK? 0.94

00:55:26.000 Half the rap I've listened to is people doing near rhymes, which is the easiest garbage in the world. 0.53

00:55:32.000 Like my daughter can do it. 0.88

00:55:33.000 She's four and a half.

00:55:34.000 That's not to say that those people are not good at what they do.

00:55:36.000 It's to say that what they do does not require a ton of skill.

00:55:39.000 There are lots of things in life where you can be good at them without a ton of work.

00:55:42.000 Playing piano is not one of them.

00:55:44.000 Playing violin is not one of them.

00:55:45.000 Playing this kind of stuff is not one of them.

00:55:47.000 And if you're going to ask me who I admire more, George Lee, who will sell maybe 1-100 the CDs that any of these other artists I've mentioned ever will.

00:55:54.000 Do I admire him more or do I admire Taylor Swift more?

00:55:56.000 There is no question.

00:55:57.000 There's just no question.

00:55:59.000 Perfect a skill.

00:56:00.000 Get good at it.

00:56:01.000 It requires dedication.

00:56:03.000 And frankly, stuff that comes hard is better for you as a general rule, as a human being, than stuff that comes really easily.

00:56:09.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:56:15.000 Okay, so I've never heard of this QAnon stuff.

00:56:17.000 So I've just been informed of this in the last week.

00:56:18.000 The reason I was informed of it is because somebody tweeted something at me on a topic I didn't really know, and they had a blue checkmark. 0.88

00:56:24.000 And so like an idiot, I sort of retweeted it.

00:56:26.000 And then somebody emailed me and they're like, do you believe QAnon? 0.97

00:56:28.000 I'm like, I don't even know what the hell QAnon is.

00:56:30.000 And then I looked up, I was like, ooh, I shouldn't have retweeted that.

00:56:32.000 So I un-retweeted it.

00:56:34.000 And QAnon, I guess, is this conspiracy theory about the deep state and the workings of a military government. 0.99

00:56:42.000 And it's all this weird garbage, this weird garbage conspiracy theory. 0.94

00:56:45.000 I'm not going to pretend to understand it because I haven't spent more than five minutes looking at it because it makes no sense at all. 0.96

00:56:50.000 It basically suggests that there's a conspiracy led by President Trump where he leads the executive branch in these conspiratorial designs, which makes no sense since he's actually the head of the executive branch.

00:56:59.000 He doesn't need a military conspiracy inside the executive.

00:57:01.000 He's the head of it.

00:57:03.000 And in any case, Chris Cuomo, who is a block of wood.

00:57:07.000 Chris Cuomo.

00:57:09.000 On CNN, he is looking for a way to tie President Trump to QAnon, to say that President Trump is a conspiracy theorist.

00:57:16.000 Now, why you have to stretch to get here is beyond me. 0.81

00:57:18.000 President Trump has in the past tweeted about how vaccines are a scam, which is silly.

00:57:21.000 He's tweeted in the past about how Barack Obama, who made a big deal out of this, was born in Kenya.

00:57:25.000 If you want to show that President Trump is fond of conspiracy theories, it's actually not hard at all.

00:57:29.000 But instead, Chris Cuomo, in his attempt to peg President Trump with the QAnon nonsense, 0.92

00:57:35.000 goes even further and creates his own weird conspiracy theory.

00:57:38.000 So watch, because this is hysterically funny.

00:57:41.000 Q Anon.

00:57:42.000 Q Anonymous. 0.68

00:57:43.000 Internet conspiracy collective.

00:57:44.000 You see them at Trump rallies.

00:57:46.000 They have their Seth Rich signs.

00:57:49.000 We are Q. That's them.

00:57:51.000 Q is the 17th letter in the alphabet.

00:57:54.000 Not that that helps make any sense of its significance to them.

00:57:57.000 And they see Trump tweeting something like this.

00:58:03.000 17 angry Democrats.

00:58:05.000 They take value in the number 17.

00:58:08.000 A potential sign.

00:58:09.000 I hope he didn't use that number for them.

00:58:12.000 He hasn't always used the number 17.

00:58:14.000 I don't see that as being intentional, but who knows these days.

00:58:18.000 Who knows these days?

00:58:19.000 Journalism-ing!

00:58:21.000 Excellent journalism-ing, Block of Wood Chris Cuomo.

00:58:23.000 Excellent, excellent job.

00:58:24.000 I see why we trust you.

00:58:25.000 It's okay.

00:58:26.000 This is a quote.

00:58:27.000 From an outlet you may have heard of called CNN.

00:58:29.000 Okay?

00:58:31.000 February 23rd, 2018.

00:58:32.000 Special Counsel Robert Mueller assembled a team of at least 17 lawyers for his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

00:58:39.000 Wow.

00:58:40.000 I can't believe that CNN is appealing to the QAnon group like that. 1.00

00:58:43.000 I can't believe that they're actually just shouting out 17 to get those QAnon people all revved up.

00:58:48.000 CNN, are they part of the conspiracy too?

00:58:50.000 Hmm?

00:58:51.000 Hmm? 1.00

00:58:52.000 This is so stupid! 1.00

00:58:54.000 Everything is stupid. 1.00

00:58:55.000 That's got to be our next t-shirt at the Shapiro store. 1.00

00:58:57.000 Everything is stupid. 1.00

00:58:58.000 Okay, other things that I hate. 1.00

00:58:59.000 So, Don Jr.

00:58:59.000 did a premiere for Dinesh D'Souza's new film.

00:59:01.000 Dinesh has a new film out.

00:59:01.000 I can fairly say that I think that at least the marketing campaign

00:59:17.000 for the new film is not my cup of tea, comparing President Trump to President Lincoln.

00:59:22.000 The trailer for the new film basically suggests that President Lincoln was shot by horrible Democrats who are attempting to reestablish slavery, and now President Trump faces a similar challenge.

00:59:33.000 No.

00:59:35.000 No.

00:59:35.000 I mean, sorry.

00:59:36.000 Nope.

00:59:37.000 Nope.

00:59:39.000 600,000 Americans died while Lincoln was president because they were killing each other. 0.85

00:59:42.000 Hey, that, that, nope.

00:59:44.000 Nope.

00:59:45.000 Sorry.

00:59:45.000 Nope.

00:59:46.000 Nope.

00:59:47.000 I mean, and I'm the first to say, I think the media have targeted President Trump.

00:59:50.000 I think that the Democratic Party has become incredibly radical.

00:59:52.000 I disagree with a lot of the things they say.

00:59:55.000 No.

00:59:55.000 OK, any poster that mashes up Trump's face with Lincoln's face?

00:59:58.000 Automatic no.

00:59:59.000 OK, but Donald Trump Jr.

01:00:00.000 was at the premiere and he proceeded to... So one of the things Dinesh just talked about...

01:00:05.000 is sort of a premise that he took from Jonah Goldberg's liberal fascism about how the Nazis were actually left-wing in a lot of ways.

01:00:10.000 Now, to understand the Nazis, what you have to understand is that European politics is not the same as American politics.

01:00:15.000 There is no such thing as a European conservative party.

01:00:18.000 Classical liberalism, which is the motivating factor behind American conservatism, the idea of small government, God-guaranteed rights that are guaranteed and protected by a limited government that is established only to protect those rights, that is an American idea.

01:00:31.000 It is not a European idea.

01:00:33.000 Right, John Locke talked about it, but it was really adopted by the American founders and adopted nowhere else.

01:00:36.000 When you talk about European right-wing parties, what you're talking about are parties that still embrace nationalized healthcare, that still embrace full-on social safety nets, that really still embrace all sorts of lefty programs in a variety of ways, but just happen to be more nationalist on issues like immigration and culture.

01:00:50.000 They're more culturally assimilationist as opposed to multicultural.

01:00:54.000 That's sort of the great distinguishing factor.

01:00:55.000 And on occasion, they might be in favor of slightly more austerity measures, but there's no such thing as a right-wing party in Europe the same way that conservatives are right-wing in the United States.

01:01:04.000 It just doesn't exist in Europe in anywhere near the same way.

01:01:07.000 So when you look at the Nazi Party, the Nazi Party was right-wing as compared with the Communist Party in Germany.

01:01:12.000 So when the left says the Nazis were right-wing, they are correct in the sense that they were the right-wing of European politics, but the Nazis bear no resemblance to the American conservative movement.

01:01:20.000 As in none, okay?

01:01:20.000 There's no crossover whatsoever.

01:01:22.000 So, Jonah pointed this out, and he pointed out that the Nazis were called national socialists, believed in big government, nationalized healthcare, corporate control from the top of industry, right?

01:01:31.000 That all these things are left-wing propositions, which is true.

01:01:33.000 Dinesh took that further, and he basically said, well, the Nazis are the Democrats, right?

01:01:36.000 The Nazis and the Democratic Party share a lot of common thoughts. 0.63

01:01:40.000 Now, the problem that I have with this is the way that we treat Nazi in public discourse, because the reality is the reason that everybody hates the Nazis is because of World War II and the Holocaust.

01:01:48.000 Up until World War II and the Holocaust, the reality is that the vast majority of the West was kind of okay with the Nazis, which demonstrates how much of the West is sick. 0.57

01:01:56.000 If you look at the Nazis' actual agenda, there are a lot of people today, if you just remove the word Nazi at the top, who would look at the agenda that they talk about, you know, nationalized health care, more spending on veterans, more of the public education, more restrictions on industry, tariffs, what they called autarky, the idea we should produce all product in-house inside Germany.

01:02:15.000 There are a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who would probably agree with some of those propositions.

01:02:19.000 Because it was a political party that also happened to be motivated by a deep-rooted evil, and it was a fascist tyranny that suggested a one-party state was the best.

01:02:28.000 To try and link that to today's Democratic Party, I think we need to be careful about the Nazi comparisons, unless you are just... Like, what people do is they say, Democratic Party platform, like the Nazi platform, Nazis went and killed 6 million Jews.

01:02:42.000 Okay, that's intellectually dishonest.

01:02:44.000 What you could say is just, this is a bad agenda.

01:02:46.000 This agenda is bad, it's failed everywhere, it's tried, it's immoral.

01:02:49.000 Lots of parties have embraced it, from right to left, and it's not good in Europe.

01:02:52.000 Instead, Donald Trump Jr.

01:02:54.000 basically goes to the bumper sticker version of this, which is that the Democratic Party platform is the Nazi platform.

01:02:59.000 When you look at the actual history of how these things evolved, and when you actually look at that platform versus the platform of the modern left, you say, wait a minute, those two are really heavily aligned, and frankly, contrary to the right.

01:03:09.000 You see the Nazi platform in the early 1930s, and what was actually put out there, and you look at it compared to the DNC platform of today, and you're saying, man, those things are awfully similar.

01:03:20.000 Okay, he's not totally wrong.

01:03:22.000 There are elements of the Democratic Party platform that are very similar to the elements of the Nazi Party platform.

01:03:27.000 But the reason we hate the Nazis is not really because of that platform.

01:03:30.000 The reason we hate the Nazis is because of the Holocaust and World War II.

01:03:32.000 So it's intellectually dishonest to sort of make that switch.

01:03:34.000 And I wanted to point that out because there's no reason for the intellectual dishonesty.

01:03:38.000 You can just make arguments about how the policy is bad without hitting it with the swastika.

01:03:42.000 The policy happens to be bad.

01:03:43.000 Nationalized healthcare has been tried in a bunch of different places.

01:03:46.000 In a variety of different ways.

01:03:48.000 It is bad because it is bad in the places in which it is bad.

01:03:50.000 It's not bad because you link the swastika to it. 0.93

01:03:53.000 I don't appreciate that particular linkage.

01:03:55.000 Okay.

01:03:56.000 So we'll be back here on Monday.

01:03:57.000 And we'll have much more for you then.

01:03:59.000 So have a great weekend.

01:03:59.000 Rest up because we're going to be back at this on Monday and I expect you to be in tip-top form.

01:04:03.000 I'll see you then.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - August 03, 2018

Why Don’t People Trust The Media? | Ep. 595

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