The Ben Shapiro Show - June 10, 2026


Why Nobody Is Rioting Over The Karmelo Anthony Verdict


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00:00:00.000 If the Carmelo Anthony trial had happened under a Kamala Harris presidency or back in 2020, American cities would likely be burning right now.
00:00:08.000 Instead, near silence.
00:00:10.000 The race baiting playbook just officially broke.
00:00:12.000 It is because Donald Trump is back in the White House.
00:00:14.000 We'll get into why the everything is racist crowd lost the will to riot on today's Ben Shapiro show.
00:00:27.000 Well, folks, you've heard us say many times on the show that politics is downstream of culture, meaning that when culture changes, politics follows.
00:00:33.000 The culture is leader and politics follows the culture.
00:00:36.000 But sometimes culture is downstream of politics, meaning that leadership actually matters.
00:00:41.000 And that is particularly true when it comes to race relations in the United States.
00:00:45.000 The leadership of our country matters on this sort of stuff.
00:00:48.000 When our leaders promote meritocracy or equal justice before law, colorblindness, not DEI, Americans tend to follow.
00:00:55.000 And by contrast, when our leaders promote racial polarization, Americans also tend to follow.
00:01:00.000 So, Let's give an example.
00:01:02.000 About a year and a half ago, there's a 17 year old teenager named Carmelo Anthony.
00:01:06.000 He's black.
00:01:07.000 He stabbed a 17 year old named Austin Metcalf, who is white. 0.98
00:01:10.000 He murdered him in cold blood in front of witnesses.
00:01:13.000 The case was clear from literally day one.
00:01:15.000 But Carmelo Anthony's family and his spokespeople began retailing a racial narrative that somehow Anthony was justified, or at least you understand why he did what he did because he was the victim here.
00:01:27.000 A victim of what?
00:01:28.000 Well, maybe of the actual victim, Austin Metcalf, who allegedly threw him out of a track tent, maybe, maybe because of racism, maybe not.
00:01:35.000 Maybe because of white America more broadly.
00:01:37.000 Well, none of this worked.
00:01:39.000 Anthony was convicted yesterday of murder.
00:01:40.000 He will see 35 years in prison, parole eligibility in 17.
00:01:45.000 And there weren't any riots, no major protests, not even much of a legacy media response, because in a sane and rational universe in which law and order prevail, Americans understand that race has nothing to do with whether murder must be punished.
00:01:57.000 Murder must be punished.
00:01:58.000 Doesn't matter who the murderer is and who the victim is. 1.00
00:02:01.000 Now, would that have happened if Kamala Harris were president?
00:02:04.000 I have my doubts.
00:02:05.000 Or Joe Biden.
00:02:06.000 Or certainly Barack Obama, because, you know, I'm older than a few years old.
00:02:09.000 So I'm old enough to remember the destruction of racial comedy in America when Barack Obama got directly involved in the Trayvon Martin case in 2013.
00:02:17.000 That was a case in which Trayvon Martin, a young black teenager, was killed by George Zimmerman under disputed circumstances.
00:02:26.000 There was a long trial about it.
00:02:28.000 Again, Zimmerman had claimed he's Hispanic, he had claimed that it was self defense, and the prosecution tried to claim that Zimmerman had done it in cold blood.
00:02:36.000 And Barack Obama got directly involved, and he said, if he had a son, he would have looked like Trayvon, which of course was not true.
00:02:42.000 And I remember major riots when a white cop shot a black man who had attacked him in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014.
00:02:48.000 And then the entire legacy media, the entire legacy media falsified the story, claiming that the cop was racist and that Michael Brown had tried to surrender to him.
00:02:56.000 Hands up, don't shoot, which never happened.
00:02:58.000 And the president again injected himself and said that nobody in Ferguson would have made something like that up, which of course it was entirely made up.
00:03:06.000 It is not a coincidence that race relations in America nosedived beginning 2013 2014.
00:03:12.000 I'm old enough to remember 2020 when the death of George Floyd, yes, almost certainly due to drug use combined with excited delirium, not police brutality, led to the most disastrous race riots in modern American history.
00:03:24.000 So if Kamala Harris were president, what would have happened after the Carmelo Anthony conviction yesterday?
00:03:31.000 Would we be prepping a new round of racial recriminations over supposed systemic racism in the United States?
00:03:36.000 That is the question we should be asking because, again, much of what President Trump's presidency is about, his return to power, was about avoiding the worst outcome.
00:03:45.000 And this is just another example of where the worst outcome, I think, has been mitigated or avoided because Americans turned away from the race narrative that was sold by the Democrats.
00:03:56.000 In order to understand how this could have gone, you have to understand exactly the fact pattern in the Carmelo Anthony case.
00:04:02.000 So you have to go back about a year and a half.
00:04:06.000 Austin Metcalf was a 17 year old student, athlete, and honor student.
00:04:09.000 At Memorial High School in Frisco, Texas.
00:04:11.000 Frisco, Texas is a very diverse town in Texas.
00:04:13.000 He's about 46% white, about 10% black, 30 some percent Hispanic.
00:04:20.000 He was a linebacker and a twin brother.
00:04:22.000 He was 6'1 and 213.
00:04:24.000 Carmelo Anthony was a 17 year old student athlete at Centennial High School in Frisco, where he ran track and played football.
00:04:29.000 He was 5'8 and 130 pounds.
00:04:31.000 The reason that we bring up the relative sizes of the people involved is because the defense tried to make a self defense argument.
00:04:40.000 The two boys did not know each other, they had no previous connections.
00:04:44.000 Metcalf was unarmed at the time of his murder.
00:04:46.000 So, what happened is that there was a rainstorm.
00:04:47.000 It delayed the track meet that day.
00:04:49.000 The athletes scrambled for shelter.
00:04:52.000 Anthony's school didn't have a tent at the venue, Metcalf's school did.
00:04:55.000 Metcalf and his twin brother, Hunter, confronted Anthony and repeatedly asked him to leave from under their school tent.
00:05:01.000 And then witnesses said that Metcalf gave Anthony light pushes and told Anthony, I'm not going to fight you, bro, seeming to imply that Anthony wanted to fight him.
00:05:12.000 Other witnesses said that Anthony told Metcalf, make me move, touch me, see what happens.
00:05:17.000 Apparently, after Metcalf pushed Anthony in the bleachers, and again, it's unclear how hard the push was or anything like that, Anthony then pulled a five inch knife from his backpack and stabbed Metcalf, hitting his heart directly.
00:05:29.000 So, witnesses' accounts of the incident vary dramatically in intensity.
00:05:32.000 They were totally inconsistent on the details like where people were sitting or whether or not Anthony ran or walked away after the stabbing.
00:05:39.000 So, the murder takes place.
00:05:41.000 Anthony is immediately arrested the same day for murder.
00:05:43.000 This is April 2nd, 2025.
00:05:46.000 And according to the arrest report, he claimed self defense right away.
00:05:49.000 He was arrested and he shouted, I was protecting myself unprompted by police.
00:05:53.000 He also reportedly asked police whether Metcalf would survive and if his actions could be considered self defense.
00:05:59.000 When an officer mentioned, That he had the alleged suspect over the radio.
00:06:04.000 Anthony reportedly replied, I'm not alleged, I did it.
00:06:08.000 And here's where things started to get incredibly squirrely and controversial.
00:06:13.000 The family set up respective fundraisers online. 0.98
00:06:16.000 Carmelo Anthony's Give, Send, Go received donations from people who said things like, We are defenders of our lineage, and I hope the knife made a full recovery and these white people can die mad. 0.96
00:06:24.000 Totally racialized, totally racialized.
00:06:27.000 Give, Send, Go eventually had to disable the comment sections on the page because of the volume of derogatory remarks on the basis of race.
00:06:35.000 You can look at the comments.
00:06:36.000 Here are some of the comments on the Carmelo Anthony family give, send, go.
00:06:41.000 I hope you raised $1 million. 0.98
00:06:42.000 These white people can die mad like their ancestors did. 1.00
00:06:45.000 Whites have been obsessed with black people for years. 1.00
00:06:47.000 It's 2025. 1.00
00:06:48.000 The hate is embedded into their DNA at this point.
00:06:50.000 They don't know if they love us or hate us.
00:06:52.000 LOL.
00:06:52.000 Too bad.
00:06:52.000 We don't care.
00:06:53.000 In these kinds of comments, again, 64 likes.
00:06:56.000 I am donating again after seeing the need for additional protection and expenses.
00:06:59.000 That was what the family said.
00:07:00.000 They said that they needed protection.
00:07:03.000 I am so glad to see him get released on bond.
00:07:05.000 These crackers need to understand we are not our ancestors.
00:07:08.000 They will reap what they sow.
00:07:09.000 I hope the knife made a full recovery.
00:07:10.000 Justice for Carmelo.
00:07:12.000 And 25 likes on that one.
00:07:16.000 We are defenders of our lineage.
00:07:17.000 This is America. 0.99
00:07:18.000 These flat whiteness immigrants from all over the world have always been open enemies toward foundational black Americans from day one, no more. 0.89
00:07:24.000 Now, again, there's no real allegation that the behavior by Austin Metcalf was racist in any way. 0.74
00:07:34.000 Now, again, right from the beginning, the Metcalf family acted with honor.
00:07:38.000 Metcalf's father publicly forgave Anthony in Christian fashion.
00:07:41.000 And explicitly mentioned this was not a race thing.
00:07:44.000 On April 14th, Anthony's bond was reduced from a million bucks to $250,000, and Anthony was allowed to leave jail for house arrest with an ankle monitor.
00:07:54.000 His family immediately holed up in an exclusive gated community in a $900,000 house.
00:08:00.000 And they were claiming that they had limited financial means as a way of convincing the judge to release him from jail.
00:08:05.000 So he's hunkered down, according to media reports, in a Frisco home located on Mercedes Lane.
00:08:12.000 And his family was renting the home for $3,500 a month.
00:08:16.000 So, again, is that the mark of a family that is simply seeking to get by to rent a very expensive house in a gated community?
00:08:26.000 Well, April 17th, the Anthony family did a press conference.
00:08:30.000 Austin Metcalf's father showed up, and the family spokesperson ripped into him for showing up.
00:08:34.000 Here's what that sounded like.
00:08:37.000 And all I'm going to say, so it don't be asked later.
00:08:42.000 As that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character who was not invited, he knows that is inappropriate to be near this family.
00:09:00.000 But he did it.
00:09:03.000 Yeah, the true victim here is not the Metcalf family.
00:09:06.000 It is apparently Carmelo Anthony's family, according to Dominique Alexander, who himself has a relatively checkered history.
00:09:13.000 Alexander also put out a tweet saying, Today we were informed by the Collin County District Attorney that Carmelo Anthony has been indicted.
00:09:20.000 As many of you know, this is the first step in a criminal proceeding and now the legal process will move forward to our trial.
00:09:25.000 Over the past several months, I've worked closely with Carmelo's family to ensure they have the proper legal representation and support they need to navigate this incredibly complex and emotionally charged case.
00:09:34.000 Let me be honest.
00:09:35.000 It's easy to go on social media and give an opinion.
00:09:37.000 It's easy to post without facts.
00:09:39.000 And sadly, even some people who claim to be supporters have shared misinformation, not always with bad intent, but still harmful.
00:09:45.000 This case involves multiple minors and sensitive details I cannot and will not speak about publicly.
00:09:50.000 There will be a trial, there will be a courtroom.
00:09:52.000 To the racists, the bigots, and those filled with hate who have targeted Carmelo, his family, and even myself, who do not intimidate us, we are not backing down.
00:09:58.000 This case is yet another example, and here's the key, of what it means to be black in America, where even our self defense is questioned, scrutinized, and politicized.
00:10:08.000 I mean, I feel like this is actually not what it's like to be black in America.
00:10:12.000 Turns out the vast, majority of black people in America don't end up indicted for murder based on an altercation in a track tent.
00:10:21.000 In which one person was completely unarmed and the young black man stabbed the young white man in the heart.
00:10:26.000 I feel like that's a fairly unique circumstance.
00:10:29.000 Again, the implication is that being black in America involves running the risk of being arrested for no reason at any time.
00:10:35.000 So it's not as though the line was not retailed.
00:10:38.000 It absolutely was retailed.
00:10:40.000 And more on the Austin Metcalf murder, the timeline, how this all played out.
00:10:44.000 We'll talk about mass migration, the wages of that on Belfast, on the UK more generally, and Stephen A. Smith going after President Trump again about the Knicks game.
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00:12:02.000 So, June 24th, a grand jury indicted Anthony on first degree murder with a conviction punishment range of five years to life.
00:12:11.000 He was tried as an adult, but the death penalty was never on the table.
00:12:15.000 In April 2026, the judge ordered no cameras, live streams, or audio recording inside the courtroom and also heightened security because of all of the threats to the families leading up to the trial.
00:12:25.000 June 1st is when the trial began.
00:12:29.000 Big controversy broke out because the jury selection resulted in a non black jury. 0.81
00:12:34.000 And you know, something is sort of wrong with our justice system when the basic idea is that we cannot perform basic justice functions unless you have somebody of the same race as you on the jury. 0.81
00:12:44.000 That is a problem. 0.89
00:12:46.000 I mean, never has there been, at least in the last several decades, an argument that a white murderer deserves a white jury.
00:12:56.000 And yet, that was the argument that was made by legacy media.
00:12:59.000 Jury selection resulted in a non black jury.
00:13:01.000 There were, in fact, non whites on the jury, like Asians and Hispanics.
00:13:06.000 A defense attorney claimed that the prosecution strikes on black jurors were based on race.
00:13:09.000 The prosecution pointed out that all of these structurers were educators.
00:13:12.000 They were in sort of the education industry.
00:13:14.000 This happened at a school and all of the rest.
00:13:16.000 Prosecutors did call witnesses who were black, by the way.
00:13:20.000 They played the 911 call recording.
00:13:21.000 They presented a jacket covered in Metcalf's blood.
00:13:24.000 And the athletic trainer testified that the track tent is like a locker room.
00:13:28.000 The visiting team does not go to the home team.
00:13:32.000 The track coach, who is black, testified that students signed a code of conduct prohibiting bringing weapons to a school event.
00:13:37.000 And that he had texted Metcalf earlier that day to step up and be a leader at the track meet as an upperclassman.
00:13:44.000 Prosecutors claimed that Anthony actually provoked Metcalf.
00:13:48.000 And they said, you don't get to meet a shove with a stab, especially if you provoke the shove.
00:13:52.000 Again, many of the team witnesses called to the stand by the prosecution were black.
00:13:56.000 And they all said that Carmelo Anthony was in the wrong.
00:13:58.000 So this should not have been a race case.
00:14:01.000 Again, that line was attempted to retail.
00:14:05.000 The defense tried to show that Anthony was upset about the incident.
00:14:08.000 They claimed that Anthony did not make the first physical contact, and they said he was forced to decide what to do in fear and chaos, and that he defended himself with the knife.
00:14:17.000 So, yesterday, the judge allowed the jury to consider a lesser manslaughter charge.
00:14:23.000 Manslaughter requires no intent, a sort of crime of passion stuff.
00:14:29.000 The jury determined after three hours of deliberation he was guilty of first degree murder.
00:14:34.000 And the jury rejected the defense's request for a sudden passion claim, which would have lessened the punishment range to 20 years, and so he received.
00:14:40.000 35 years in prison.
00:14:41.000 He'll be eligible for parole in 17.5 years.
00:14:44.000 Now, when I say that there were people trying to retail this thing, there absolutely were, because right outside the courthouse, there was an attempt to retail this as a race based anti black verdict.
00:14:55.000 Here are some of the scenes outside the courthouse. 0.59
00:14:59.000 This is nice.
00:15:13.000 Again, what is his name?
00:15:14.000 Carmelo.
00:15:15.000 What do we want?
00:15:17.000 One of the protesters showed up and said, What do I tell my boys?
00:15:19.000 Well, I mean, you could tell your boys not to stab people in the heart.
00:15:21.000 That's a pretty good way to avoid being arrested.
00:15:25.000 What do you want us to do?
00:15:27.000 What do you want us to do at this point?
00:15:29.000 What?
00:15:30.000 I'm lost for work.
00:15:31.000 I don't know what to do.
00:15:32.000 I got five boys.
00:15:34.000 I don't know what.
00:15:34.000 I ain't got nothing to tell them no more.
00:15:36.000 You can't walk away no more.
00:15:40.000 Well, I mean, again, I think you should probably tell them not to stab people.
00:15:42.000 That seems like a pretty good way of avoiding this particular circumstance.
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00:17:57.000 And of course, Dominique Alexander showed up again.
00:17:59.000 When I say he had a checkered history, I mean that he had a Tides Foundation backed nonprofit called Next Generation Action Network and has a long criminal history, including convictions on child abuse, allegations of domestic violence, felony forgery charges, felony theft charges, and felony assault charges, according to the New York Post.
00:18:16.000 A radical political activist.
00:18:18.000 Here he was suggesting Black Lives Don't Matter in Collin County.
00:18:22.000 I speak on behalf of myself, Minister Dominique Alexander.
00:18:26.000 I speak on behalf of myself as president of the Next Generation Action Network.
00:18:31.000 The Next Generation Action Network wanted to respect this process to be able to make sure that nobody said that the Next Generation Action Network instructed this process, interfered in this process. 0.96
00:18:43.000 But what this process did is shown that black lives do not matter in Collin County. 0.83
00:18:51.000 Black lives don't matter in Collin County? 0.99
00:18:54.000 Again, the area in which this happened is 10% black. 0.97
00:18:59.000 Is the idea that every black person in Frisco is in danger because a person who committed a murder?
00:19:04.000 Was convicted of that murder.
00:19:07.000 Jasmine Crockett, who is nearly the Texas Democrat Senate candidate and is a sitting congresswoman, and this is a pretty astonishing statement here from Crockett, suggests that the real agony here is being suffered by black women, not by, say, the Metcalf family.
00:19:25.000 Black women, especially black women who have black male children, live in fear and agony every day.
00:19:36.000 Single day of fear and agony that I promise you the Metcalfe's probably never spent a day living that way. 0.82
00:19:48.000 And we're going to have to have just some real conversations about race in this country.
00:19:54.000 The Metcalfe family never spent a day living that way.
00:19:56.000 They literally had their son murdered. 1.00
00:19:59.000 But the idea is that if you're a black woman in America, you're just living under the thumb of white supremacy. 0.91
00:20:03.000 Now, all of this is kind of De rigueur, right?
00:20:08.000 This is just the way things go, unfortunately, whenever there is a racial criminal case or a racialized criminal case in which the victim and the perpetrator are of different races in the United States, black and white. 0.74
00:20:19.000 The real question is why didn't this thing explode? 0.58
00:20:21.000 Because it didn't.
00:20:22.000 Why didn't it explode?
00:20:23.000 And the answer is because you did not have people in really prominent positions of power, say the presidency, trying to facilitate and foster this.
00:20:30.000 Because in this moment, the president of the United States, if called upon, would say, justice was done, a murderer is going to jail.
00:20:37.000 And that's all.
00:20:39.000 It is because the American people responded to a full on decade of racialized politics by saying, We are tired of this.
00:20:46.000 We don't want it.
00:20:46.000 We're not interested in a DEI regime that divides Americans by race.
00:20:51.000 We don't want that anymore.
00:20:52.000 We want equal justice before a law.
00:20:54.000 We don't want every criminal situation to become some sort of referendum on whether America is systemically racist.
00:21:00.000 We're not interested in that anymore.
00:21:02.000 That is the reason why a lot of these racial narratives that would have been retailed five minutes ago are not breaking loose.