The Ben Shapiro Show - Why Republicans And Democrats Hear Different Things | Ep. 819

00:00:00.000 Democrats pass a resolution condemning President Trump's quote-unquote racist tweets.

00:00:04.000 The Squad prepares to go back to war with Nancy Pelosi.

00:00:07.000 And Republicans struggle to react.

00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:14.000 Well, it's all a complete mess out there.

00:00:18.000 Unclear how all of this shakes out in terms of the polling data.

00:00:21.000 AOC at war with Nancy Pelosi.

00:00:23.000 Nancy Pelosi at war with the squad and President Trump.

00:00:25.000 President Trump at war with anyone.

00:00:27.000 The media at war with everyone as well.

00:00:29.000 It's just, it's a complete mess.

00:00:31.000 We'll get to all of it in just one second.

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00:01:48.000 Yesterday, late in the day, the House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning President Trump's quote-unquote racist tweets.

00:01:54.000 Four Republicans voted along with all the Democrats to condemn President Trump's quote-unquote racist tweets.

00:02:00.000 According to NBC News, the Democrat-controlled House of Representatives passed a resolution Tuesday night condemning President Trump for his quote racist comments about four Democratic Congresswomen of color.

00:02:10.000 The resolution passed largely along party lines with 235 Democrats joined by only four Republicans supporting the measure.

00:02:16.000 Following hours of back and forth and gamesmanship, there is a lot of hubbub that broke out last night because Nancy Pelosi used language that was not actually allowed by the House rules. 0.99

00:02:27.000 So there are House rules that prevent you from impugning the motives of the president of the United States or other members of the House or of the Senate.

00:02:35.000 Well, Nancy Pelosi did that on the floor of the House. 1.00

00:02:37.000 The resolution itself Says that the president used quote-unquote racist language.

00:02:41.000 So that is impugning the motives of the president of the United States.

00:02:44.000 It violates the house rules. 1.00

00:02:45.000 Now listen, I think those house rules are stupid. 1.00

00:02:47.000 Let's be real about this. 1.00

00:02:48.000 Congress members immediately leave the chamber and then say whatever they want to say about each other anyway.

00:02:52.000 Saying they can't say this stuff on the floor of the house has not really upped the game of the House of Representatives.

00:02:58.000 In Britain, they rip each other all the time. 0.79

00:03:00.000 I mean, they have full-on parliamentary sessions where they basically browbeat one another.

00:03:04.000 I'm fine with that. 0.95

00:03:04.000 I think it's a dumb rule, but it was the rule. 0.95

00:03:07.000 Nancy Pelosi broke it. 0.97

00:03:08.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi yesterday on the floor of the House talking about how she's speaking truth to power.

00:03:12.000 Now, obviously, this is a lie.

00:03:14.000 She's not speaking truth to power at all.

00:03:16.000 One of the ways that you know whether somebody is honest is whether they are willing to condemn people on their own side for doing something bad.

00:03:22.000 Nancy Pelosi not only will not speak truth to power to the president of the United States, she's the third most powerful person in American government, really the second most powerful because the VP has no real power. 1.00

00:03:31.000 She's third in line for the presidency. 1.00

00:03:33.000 She runs the House of Representatives.

00:03:35.000 And she's saying that she's speaking truth to power by not impeaching President Trump.

00:03:39.000 She's got a lot of power. 1.00

00:03:40.000 Second of all, she couldn't even get the support to condemn members in her own party for being clearly and openly anti-Semitic.

00:03:46.000 So don't get me, she speaks truth to power. 0.92

00:03:48.000 She wields racism as a political tool in favor of her partisan agenda. 1.00

00:03:48.000 She doesn't. 1.00

00:03:53.000 Which, as we will see, is one of the reasons they're getting an anti-anti-Trump backlash.

00:03:59.000 Right?

00:03:59.000 So there's this anti-Trump backlash, people pushing against Trump, and then you have people who are anti-anti-Trump saying, well all the people who are condemning Trump They're compromised in some way morally.

00:04:08.000 They're liars. 0.93

00:04:09.000 They're partisan hacks like Nancy Pelosi. 0.99

00:04:10.000 So I'm not going to go along with the condemnation of Trump just to make Nancy Pelosi happy.

00:04:14.000 I think that's one of the dynamics that is very strongly in play right now.

00:04:17.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi, though, patting herself on the back, talking about how she's speaking truth to power when she won't even condemn members of her own caucus for being openly bigoted.

00:04:25.000 Every single member of this institution, Democratic and Republican, should join us in condemning the President's racist tweets.

00:04:33.000 To do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the American people.

00:04:45.000 I urge a unanimous vote and yield back the balance of my vote.

00:04:50.000 I was just going to give the General Speaker of the House if she would like to rephrase that comment.

00:04:54.000 I have cleared my remarks as a parliamentarian before I read them.

00:04:58.000 Okay, and that little controversy right there, that little contratums back and forth, that was a representative from Georgia who stood up and said, listen, you just violated the rules of the House.

00:05:10.000 You're not allowed to impugn the motives of the President of the United States.

00:05:12.000 Would you like to strike that?

00:05:13.000 She said, I cleared it with the parliamentarian.

00:05:15.000 Apparently she had not, because the parliamentarian then ruled that her language did violate the rules of the House.

00:05:21.000 And so there are rules that Say that she now has to not speak for the rest of the day and her language has to be struck from the record.

00:05:28.000 Emanuel Cleaver was the chair of the house at the time.

00:05:30.000 He was chairing the house.

00:05:31.000 You can sort of pass the gavel back and forth to particular members of your caucus.

00:05:34.000 He was chairing this thing.

00:05:35.000 The parliamentarian ruled that Pelosi's words were out of order, that they broke the rules.

00:05:40.000 Emanuel Cleaver refused to say that they broke the rules.

00:05:42.000 So instead, he just said, I'm going to drop the gavel and leave.

00:05:46.000 I came in here to try to do this in a fair way.

00:05:48.000 I kept warning both sides, let's not do this, hoping we could get through.

00:05:52.000 Mr. Japal had a situation where we could be in here on another motion to take down words of a friend of mine.

00:06:07.000 But we don't ever, ever want to pass up, it seems, an opportunity to escalate.

00:06:13.000 And that's what this is.

00:06:16.000 I'll dare anybody to look at any of the footage and see if there was any unfairness.

00:06:21.000 But unfairness is not enough, because we want to just fight.

00:06:25.000 I abandon the chair.

00:06:27.000 Okay, so he walks off, violates the rules of the House, right, in order to protect Nancy Pelosi for violating the rules of the House.

00:06:33.000 Then Steny Hoyer, who's the House Majority Leader, he gets up, he takes the gavel, and he says, yeah, it turns out she broke the rules, and now she can't talk the rest of the day.

00:06:42.000 Chairs, prepare to rule. 1.00

00:06:43.000 The words of the gentlewoman from California contain an accusation of racist behavior on the part of the President.

00:06:53.000 As memorialized in Daschle's Precedents, Chapter 29, Section 65.6, characterizing an action as racist is not in order.

00:07:05.000 The chair relies on the precedent of May 15, 1984, and finds that the words should not be used in debate.

00:07:15.000 Okay, and then the House votes to basically change the rules for Nancy Pelosi, rules the words back in order, votes on the resolution, rules that Pelosi has done nothing wrong.

00:07:23.000 So there's this whole back and forth over violating the rules. 0.93

00:07:25.000 And again, I think the rule itself is stupid because these Congress people will just go out and say whatever they want anyway. 0.88

00:07:31.000 However, that sort of hubbub last night Proved again that there's nothing but chaos in the House of Representatives. 0.94

00:07:37.000 Okay, so the question becomes, you know, Nancy Pelosi says everybody of good heart should vote with us on this resolution.

00:07:43.000 Everyone of good heart should vote with us on this resolution.

00:07:46.000 There are several reasons why Republicans were not going to vote on this resolution the way that it was phrased.

00:07:51.000 The reason, number one, is that it is actually controversial whether the president was being racist or xenophobic.

00:07:55.000 Now, this is a distinction that actually does matter in American politics.

00:07:59.000 Why?

00:07:59.000 Well, because the word racist is the worst thing you can be called in American politics.

00:08:03.000 If you are a racist in American politics, then your political career is basically over.

00:08:07.000 And we tend to categorize anybody who supports that person as also a racist, right?

00:08:11.000 There's a move that we make in modern American politics where if a politician is perceived as being a racist because race is the great dividing line in the history of the United States and the great stain on our national honor for the first 150, 200 years of our existence.

00:08:26.000 And by existence, I'm dating back to 1776, not to the Mayflower Compact or anything like that.

00:08:31.000 If you're talking about slavery, it goes back hundreds of years further than that, obviously.

00:08:34.000 But the use of the word racist to label somebody or somebody's action basically throws them outside the Overton window of politics.

00:08:43.000 And so to label the president of the United States racist means that he should not be president anymore under today's modern American political definition.

00:08:52.000 So the distinction between racist and xenophobic does matter here. 1.00

00:08:56.000 There's also an aspect of stupid, meaning that President Trump says crap a lot, and it's usually very stupid. 1.00

00:09:01.000 And many of the stupid things that President Trump tends to say are directed in the drunk uncle at your family barbecue direction. 1.00

00:09:09.000 Meaning, is he a true, deep down, bigoted racist who believes that black folks are inferior and brown people can't be good American citizens? 1.00

00:09:16.000 Or is the president just somebody who's like a bad caller to a C-SPAN show? 0.97

00:09:20.000 And he sees Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar on TV and he's like, I don't like these people.

00:09:24.000 Let's just go back where they came from because I don't like these people.

00:09:28.000 And would he say the same thing about somebody who was white and part of that caucus?

00:09:31.000 I don't know.

00:09:32.000 Nobody knows because the Justice Democrats are represented by four women of color. 0.99

00:09:32.000 You don't know. 0.99

00:09:36.000 Right, AOC, and Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar, and Ayanna Pressley, the Ringo Starr of this Beatles crew.

00:09:42.000 So, you know, when Trump condemns them, and when he says, they should all go back where they came from, is that a representative of racism?

00:09:48.000 Or is that him assuming that everybody who disagrees with him comes from a foreign place?

00:09:54.000 If there were a white member of that caucus, would he spare that person, for example?

00:09:57.000 These questions matter, again, because the word racist is so charged in modern American life.

00:10:02.000 And the reason that you can tell that this is really charged is people are saying on the left, well, why won't Republicans just universally come out and say that this was racist?

00:10:10.000 Again, because you have to be sort of exact in your language when you're labeling something racist as opposed to merely xenophobic.

00:10:17.000 Now the reason that I make this this sort of context clear is because I want to take the text of the resolution that was voted on yesterday and contrast it with the text of the resolution that was voted on earlier this year that received unanimous support condemning Representative Steve King from Iowa.

00:10:31.000 So here is the text of the resolution condemning Steve King of Iowa who made comments that were Sort of complimentary toward white nationalism.

00:10:39.000 Here's the resolution.

00:10:40.000 OK, said condemning and censuring Representative Steve King of Iowa.

00:10:43.000 Remember, the House Republicans voted for this thing and it was sponsored by House Republicans.

00:10:49.000 So Democrats couldn't condemn their own, but Republicans certainly did when it came to Steve King.

00:10:53.000 Nowhere in the resolution did it call King racist.

00:10:55.000 Instead, it was very specific.

00:10:57.000 It said, whereas on January 10th, 2019, in an interview published by the New York Times, Representative Steve King asked white nationalists, white supremacists, Western civilization, how did that language become offensive?

00:11:07.000 Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?

00:11:11.000 Whereas Representative King's comments legitimize white supremacy and white nationalism as acceptable in today's society.

00:11:17.000 Whereas Representative King's comments are abhorrent to the founding principles of our nation and our rich history of diversity and tolerance of those whose backgrounds and beliefs have made America the envy of the world.

00:11:25.000 And whereas Representative King's comments reflect negatively on the House of Representatives, now therefore be it resolved that Representative King be censured.

00:11:32.000 And that passed unanimously.

00:11:35.000 Well, again, the reason that it passed unanimously is because it didn't characterize his comments.

00:11:38.000 It literally repeated his comments and then just made the very clear logical statement that they legitimized white supremacy and white nationalism.

00:11:45.000 The resolution that was adopted by the Democrats went further than that.

00:11:49.000 The resolution adopted by the Democrats ladled in a lot of their own immigration policy and also suggested, without real explanation, not even quoting his tweets, they just said, whereas President Trump's racist comments have legitimized fear and hatred of new Americans and people of color.

00:12:05.000 That's more of a characterization of his statement than a mere analysis of what the man said.

00:12:13.000 The actual resolution does not even quote his tweets in the first place, as opposed to the resolution that was about Steve King that quoted his tweets and then just said, here's what he said.

00:12:23.000 So this was obviously going a lot further than the Steve King resolution.

00:12:26.000 So that was reason number one that Republicans didn't vote for it.

00:12:29.000 But there are other reasons that Republicans didn't vote for it.

00:12:31.000 And those reasons are revealed by a couple of polls that are out today regarding how Americans view President Trump's comments and the response to Trump's comments.

00:12:40.000 And it really is fascinating because there's a conversation going on in which the two sides, I think, are completely missing one another.

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00:13:58.000 Okay, so, when you look at the polling data surrounding people's perceptions of President Trump's comments, What you see is that there are two questions that are being perceived.

00:14:10.000 Question one is, what is the content of what Trump said?

00:14:12.000 Do you like it or do you not?

00:14:14.000 And that's the question the left thinks they're asking, but that's not really the question the right thinks that the left is asking them.

00:14:19.000 So Nancy Pelosi will get up there and say, why can't you just condemn these comments? 0.57

00:14:22.000 And folks on the right are looking at her going, because you're the one asking and because you are willing to overlook racism and bigotry and antisemitism in your own party.

00:14:30.000 And so we think you're a political hack.

00:14:31.000 who is not actually making a clear-eyed assessment of what the president is saying, we think instead that what you are doing is weaponizing the president's comments and attacks on race or ethnicity more generally in favor of your own political side.

00:14:47.000 Right?

00:14:47.000 That is what people are reading.

00:14:50.000 And you can see this in the polling data.

00:14:52.000 You see this very often with a lot of hot-button political issues.

00:14:55.000 Somebody will pick a hot-button political issue, and then they will say, why can't you admit my point?

00:15:01.000 And the answer is because we don't think that your point derives from the material that you are relying upon.

00:15:06.000 So to take an example.

00:15:08.000 The Black Lives Matter movement was founded on the belief that black people are being disproportionately targeted by police.

00:15:14.000 And then they used as their basis for that, the Ferguson shooting.

00:15:19.000 And the Ferguson shooting was not, by all available data, a bad shoot by the police officer.

00:15:24.000 It was not a racist shooting by the police officer.

00:15:27.000 And yet the question that was being asked routinely is, so you don't think racism exists in America?

00:15:31.000 Now everyone believes racism exists in America, but you're asking, The wrong question.

00:15:36.000 So you are pointing at Ferguson, or you're pointing at disproportionate police shootings of black folks, which, statistically speaking, have generally been shown to be justified by Roland Fryer over at Harvard University based on the activities of the criminal lit issue.

00:15:50.000 And then you are saying, are you saying racism doesn't exist in America?

00:15:53.000 It's like, no, I'm saying racism does exist in America, but the evidence you're providing for this is not clear, and it feels like you are asking me to say yes so that you can then justify the rest of your agenda.

00:16:04.000 This sort of thing happens routinely in American politics, and you're seeing it happen here with President Trump's comments.

00:16:09.000 This is how the right is reading it.

00:16:10.000 They don't feel like there's an actual open, honest question being asked as to whether President Trump's comments were racist.

00:16:16.000 They feel like all that's really happening is for what they want.

00:16:21.000 And by they, I mean the left, the Democrats, the media.

00:16:23.000 What they want is to say, they want you to say, yes, I think those comments were bad.

00:16:27.000 I don't know if they're racist, but they're bad.

00:16:29.000 And then they say, OK, well, why don't you impeach him and vote for Nancy Pelosi for president and vote for Kamala Harris for president?

00:16:35.000 Why can't you admit that Republicans are all racist?

00:16:38.000 There's a second step that we know is coming on the other end of a question that is not honest, in other words.

00:16:42.000 And you can see this reflected in the polling data.

00:16:44.000 So there are two polls that are out today showing what Republicans and and folks more generally think of Of Trump's comments.

00:16:54.000 Now, I will point out here as well that the media have jumped into this game where they are openly calling Trump's tweets racist.

00:17:01.000 So they're characterizing the tweets and calling it a factual verification of the tweets. 0.93

00:17:05.000 OK, I'm just pointing out that the media are damned liars when it comes to this sort of stuff, because when it comes to Ilhan Omar saying openly anti-Semitic stuff, they won't say Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitic tweets. 0.95

00:17:16.000 They'll say Ilhan Omar's controversial tweets, Ilhan Omar's anti-Israel tweets, tweets that some have called anti-Semitic. 0.98

00:17:21.000 When it comes to Trump, they will say racist tweets, even though As best I can see, the tweets are not actually racist, they're xenophobic.

00:17:28.000 And I do think that there is a difference between racism and xenophobia.

00:17:32.000 Both are bad.

00:17:33.000 They're not either equivalently bad or exactly the same.

00:17:36.000 Not all rectangles are squares, in other words.

00:17:39.000 So something can be xenophobic and racist, it can be xenophobic and not racist, it can be bad and not xenophobic or racist.

00:17:45.000 These distinctions do matter in American politics and gradations matter in American politics as well.

00:17:50.000 There are lots of various shades of bad, in other words. 0.99

00:17:54.000 And it's somewhat troubling that people are so focused in on President Trump being the root of all evil for what are admittedly and obviously very bad, stupid, ridiculous tweets, but they are utterly unbothered by Ayanna Pressley going out there and saying that black people are not black unless she agrees with them, and gay people are not gay unless she agrees with them. 0.99

00:18:15.000 It's pretty amazing. 0.99

00:18:16.000 Okay, so here's what the polls show coming out of this latest brouhaha.

00:18:20.000 There's a poll that is printed by USA Today and Ipsos.

00:18:23.000 A clear majority of Americans say President Trump's tweets targeting four minority Congresswomen were un-American.

00:18:29.000 But most Republicans say they agree with his comments, an illustration of the nation's sharp partisan divide on issues of patriotism and race.

00:18:36.000 More than two-thirds of those aware of the controversy, some 68%, called Trump's tweets offensive.

00:18:41.000 Among Republicans alone, however, 57% said they agreed with tweets that told the Congresswomen to go back to their original countries, and a third strongly agreed with them.

00:18:50.000 So what are Republicans hearing when they hear that poll?

00:18:53.000 I don't think that what they're actually hearing is, were the tweets good?

00:18:59.000 I know.

00:19:00.000 People are gonna... This is not me reading chicken entrails, okay?

00:19:03.000 My actual assessment of this, knowing conservatives better than anyone in the media, my actual assessment is that conservatives and Republicans, when they are asked this question, are hearing, are you willing to condemn President Trump as un-American and racist so that we can press forward Nancy Pelosi and the squad?

00:19:18.000 In other words, people are reading the consequence of the poll question, not merely the poll question.

00:19:21.000 Which happens on the left as well.

00:19:23.000 You see this pretty often on the left as well.

00:19:25.000 People will ask people, do you condemn socialism?

00:19:27.000 And folks on the left, who may not even know what socialism is, will read the second order question there as, will I condemn the squad, for example, and they'll say, no, socialism's fine with me.

00:19:36.000 So again, that poll shows that 57% said they agreed with the tweets.

00:19:39.000 Now that's a pretty low number.

00:19:41.000 That really is.

00:19:42.000 Remember, Trump has over 90% approval rating among Republicans.

00:19:46.000 Only 57% of Republicans said they agreed with his tweets.

00:19:50.000 So, you know, I'm gonna put it out there that most Republicans are actually not particularly happy with President Trump's tweets, but they're not gonna tell the media that.

00:20:00.000 59% of people across the country called the tweets un-American.

00:20:05.000 And again, I do think that it is an un-American thing to tell people to go back to their home country based on political disagreement.

00:20:12.000 I actually think that it's an un-American thing to say to somebody, you know, go back to your home country if they're born in America.

00:20:18.000 I think it's a very bad thing to say.

00:20:20.000 I don't think it's a racist thing to say, necessarily.

00:20:22.000 It depends on the context, but I think it's an un-American, bad, xenophobic thing.

00:20:27.000 Could certainly be racially tinged.

00:20:28.000 I'm open to that argument.

00:20:29.000 In any case, The polls show that three quarters of women called the tweets offensive. 0.99

00:20:35.000 This is why, for all the people saying this is an act of genius by President Trump to make the squad the face of the Democratic Party, he's alienating precisely suburban voters he's going to need for that 2020 election because he can't keep his damn mouth shut. 0.99

00:20:46.000 Three quarters of the women polled called his tweet offensive. 0.98

00:20:49.000 Independents, by more than two to one, said they were un-American.

00:20:53.000 But Republicans said that they mostly agreed.

00:20:57.000 How many Democrats were willing to say that Ilhan Omar was an anti-Semite?

00:21:01.000 I wonder.

00:21:01.000 25% of Republicans said that the tweets were, quote unquote, un-American, which is a very high number, again, inside his own party.

00:21:09.000 How many Democrats were willing to say that Ilhan Omar was an anti-Semite?

00:21:12.000 I wonder.

00:21:13.000 Partisanship is a hell of a drug.

00:21:15.000 Nearly three quarters of Democrats agreed that this is a racist statement.

00:21:21.000 About 65% said that it was a racist statement overall.

00:21:25.000 Republicans were actually inclined to agree that the comment was racist.

00:21:28.000 45 to 34.

00:21:31.000 Republicans were much more skeptical of charges of racism generally.

00:21:35.000 70% agreed that people who call others racist usually do so in bad faith, and that is the key question.

00:21:40.000 That's the key question that Republicans are really answering.

00:21:42.000 They're not answering what they think of President Trump's tweet. 0.97

00:21:44.000 They're answering what they think of you, the people who are polling them, the people in the media who are covering them, the people on the left who are insisting that they call out every instance of presidential stupidity and quasi-racism, except when it comes from the left, at which point we're supposed to celebrate it. 0.95

00:21:59.000 Democrats, 31% agreed that people who call others racist usually do so in bad faith. 0.89

00:22:04.000 35% disagreed.

00:22:05.000 Even Democrats, apparently, understand that the charge of racism goes out too often.

00:22:12.000 When it came to patriotism, 72% of Democrats and 93% of Republicans said they were proud to be American in this latest poll.

00:22:18.000 So, you sort of have to decode these polls a little bit to determine what exactly people think about them.

00:22:23.000 I'm going to get to more of that in just one second.

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00:23:44.000 Okay, so there's also something else going on when Republicans are polled about whether the president's tweets were quote-unquote racist.

00:23:54.000 They're being polled on a number of different topics, and this is how Republicans break this down, I think, if we have to break down how Republicans are thinking about this.

00:24:01.000 So, there are several questions they think they are being asked, because the question is sort of implicit in the next step of coverage from the media.

00:24:09.000 Okay, so, question number one that they believe they are being asked.

00:24:13.000 There are really four questions they believe they are being asked.

00:24:16.000 Okay, there are four questions that Republicans believe, and this is why you're seeing a gap in the perception of the President's comments.

00:24:23.000 Okay, so here are the four questions.

00:24:27.000 Question number one, do we trust the media's definition of racism?

00:24:32.000 Right, that is the first question that Republicans perceive they are being asked.

00:24:36.000 Do we trust the media's definition of racism?

00:24:38.000 So, if Washington Post calls me up and says, do you think this is racist?

00:24:44.000 I immediately, in my reptile brain, I immediately go to, who's asking me the question?

00:24:51.000 Is it an honest broker or is it somebody who hates President Trump and is going to use this as a club against everybody?

00:24:56.000 Because the same people who call President Trump's tweets racist also justify the activities of Ilhan Omar and Ayanna Pressley and all the other Democrats who are saying radical insane things.

00:25:05.000 So why would I tell you what I think is racist when you guys are not honest about racism?

00:25:09.000 You won't even define your terms.

00:25:11.000 So that is question number one.

00:25:12.000 And so you are less likely to go along with the Washington Post's question itself or the USA Today's question itself.

00:25:21.000 Question number two.

00:25:22.000 Do we trust that this isn't just a partisan hack job?

00:25:25.000 Meaning, not only do we think that you applied the label racist too broadly, and that you've been labeling everything Trump does racist for his entire presidency, and everything Mitt Romney did racist, and everything Paul Ryan did racist, and everything George W. Bush did racist, and now you're asking me do I think this is racist? 0.99

00:25:39.000 You cried wolf too many times, go screw yourself. 0.98

00:25:42.000 That's what Republicans are thinking on question number one. 0.98

00:25:44.000 Do we agree that you are a worthy source of the definition of racism?

00:25:49.000 Then there's question number two.

00:25:51.000 Are you partisan hacks?

00:25:53.000 And this breaks down into a couple of different areas.

00:25:55.000 One, do you in the media and do you in the Democratic Party, do you, Nancy Pelosi, apply a double standard on bigotry?

00:26:01.000 In other words, are you fine with anti-Semitism so long as Ilhan Omar is spouting it?

00:26:05.000 But suddenly you're all up in arms when you think Steve King is saying something very bad.

00:26:10.000 In other words, is this a partisan hack attack?

00:26:12.000 So question number one was, is your definition of racism too broad?

00:26:16.000 And if I acquiesce to your definition of racism in this particular case, am I acquiescing to your broader definition of racism?

00:26:22.000 In other words, if I say, yeah, I think these tweets are bad and maybe even racist, am I acquiescing to your definition of racism, which apparently includes everything under the sun?

00:26:31.000 That's why that USA Today poll is really fascinating.

00:26:33.000 It shows that Republicans, 45 to 34, thought that the president's tweets were actually racist, But they also thought, 70% of Republicans thought that the charge racism is too broadly applied and 57% said they were fine with the tweets.

00:26:49.000 So just the 57% and the 45% seem like they should not overlap, right? 0.88

00:26:54.000 That's more than 100%.

00:26:56.000 So what's the deal?

00:26:57.000 The deal is that a lot of the same people in the Republican Party who are uncomfortable with the president's tweets are even more uncomfortable with the media using the tweets to justify their broader definition of racism.

00:27:07.000 Because they understand the game.

00:27:10.000 Okay, so that was question number one.

00:27:11.000 Question number two is, isn't this all just a bunch of partisan hackery?

00:27:14.000 Like, when you're asking about the president's tweets, and when, let's say that, let's say there was an attack by a terrorist group in America, an Antifa attack on an ICE facility over the weekend, by a person quoting AOC, basically, talking about concentration camps, and not a single Democrat has been asked about it by you, the same media?

00:27:30.000 Not one Democrat in power has been asked about it?

00:27:33.000 Zero?

00:27:34.000 Zero.

00:27:35.000 When it's left to the rebel and the Daily Caller to ask Ayanna Pressley and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and AOC whether they condemn an actual terrorist attack on an ICE facility.

00:27:45.000 And when those women stay silent when asked the question and there are no follow-ups from the mainstream media, do we trust you or Nancy Pelosi to ask honest questions upon which we should be able to reach agreement?

00:27:56.000 When we know that you're immediately going to use it as a tool?

00:27:58.000 So in other words, should we go along with your partisan hackery masquerading as a unifying message just so that you can turn around and clock us tomorrow with something intellectually dishonest and terrible?

00:28:10.000 Is that something that we're willing to go along with?

00:28:12.000 That's what Republicans are hearing as well.

00:28:14.000 In other words, the dishonesty of the left on a lot of these issues has left Republicans unwilling to even answer the question in an honest and real fashion.

00:28:23.000 Because they don't think the question is motivated well.

00:28:25.000 They don't think the question is honestly motivated.

00:28:28.000 And I don't blame conservatives or Republicans for this.

00:28:30.000 I really don't.

00:28:31.000 Because the fact is that you do this in your daily life all the time.

00:28:35.000 How you ask a question and who is asking the question is often just as important as what the question is.

00:28:42.000 If you are asked by a police officer, how fast were you going?

00:28:46.000 That is different than your wife asking you after you got home, so how fast did you go?

00:28:51.000 It's coming from a different source.

00:28:52.000 The purpose of the question is different.

00:28:53.000 It's the exact same question, right?

00:28:55.000 But everybody knows that there is a slight difference in what exactly the question is designed to elicit.

00:29:00.000 And Republicans are reading beneath the question to what it is designed to elicit.

00:29:04.000 Okay, then there's the third question that Republicans believe they're being asked, and that is, is President Trump himself a racist?

00:29:09.000 Meaning, not are these comments racist, not are these comments xenophobic, not are these comments ugly, but is President Trump himself a racist?

00:29:18.000 And that's a different question.

00:29:20.000 It really is.

00:29:21.000 There are lots of non-racist people who say things that are at the very best racially tinged on occasion. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Really, there are people who do not believe that people of other races are inferior, but they're dumb, and they say dumb things because they're dumb. 0.98

00:29:35.000 Maybe we used to acknowledge that this was a fact in American life and American politics. 0.99

00:29:40.000 So, what people in the Republican Party, many conservatives are reading is, sure, those tweets, maybe they're racist, but we don't think Trump is a racist.

00:29:48.000 You saw Mitch McConnell do this yesterday, for example.

00:29:50.000 He was asked if the tweets are racist, and McConnell said, I don't think that Trump is a racist.

00:29:54.000 In other words, he was trying to cut them off at the pass.

00:29:56.000 He was saying, okay, well, I know what you're doing here.

00:29:59.000 You're gonna say, if I say that the tweets are racist, your next question is, do you think Trump is a racist?

00:30:04.000 And I'm not willing to go there.

00:30:06.000 So instead, I'm just going to cut you off.

00:30:07.000 I'm going to say Trump is not a racist.

00:30:09.000 End of story. 0.99

00:30:11.000 I have a question as to how many Democrats even are willing to go out there and say that they think that President Trump himself is a vicious, brutal racist, as opposed to the man who says dumb, racially tinged crap all the time. 0.98

00:30:25.000 How many think that he's overt in his own mind, in how he thinks, in terms of intent and motive, which is what racism is. 0.94

00:30:33.000 I don't think there's a strict liability standard with regard to racism.

00:30:36.000 They actually have to have intent.

00:30:38.000 Is Trump a racist?

00:30:39.000 That's a question that people are reading into.

00:30:41.000 And then finally, there is the final question, which is, are we all racist?

00:30:44.000 That is what Republicans and conservatives feel like they are being asked.

00:30:44.000 Right?

00:30:47.000 Meaning, here's how the logical chain goes.

00:30:50.000 If I say that I think the tweets were racist, then your next question is going to be, do you acquiesce to our entire definition of racism, whereby everything a Republican has ever said is racist?

00:31:00.000 And if you believe in our definition of racism and you vote Republican, then aren't you a racist?

00:31:05.000 The reason that I'm breaking this down is because I think that people are completely misunderstanding how these poll results are working and just what people think of race in America.

00:31:12.000 Because here's the reality.

00:31:13.000 How many Americans on the Republican side of the aisle really stood up for, will stand up for openly racist language?

00:31:21.000 Like how many Republicans stood up for Steve King?

00:31:24.000 The answer was about zero.

00:31:25.000 How many Republicans actually stood up for the man who, for the police officer in South Carolina who shot Walter Scott, a black man in the back, and then tried to plant the gun on him basically?

00:31:35.000 How many people stood up for that?

00:31:36.000 Anyone?

00:31:38.000 But when you take a hot button issue like this and then you poll people about it, people answer the question they think they are being asked.

00:31:44.000 In reality.

00:31:45.000 And so we're talking past one another because, yes, Democrats doubt Republican motives because they think Republicans are all racists.

00:31:53.000 And that means that Republicans doubt Democratic and media motives, which is the same thing.

00:31:57.000 And why wouldn't they doubt those motives?

00:31:59.000 Why wouldn't they doubt those motives, especially when CNN is willing to go out of its way to ask the thoughts of Richard Spencer on Donald Trump's tweets?

00:32:07.000 So CNN actually had Richard Spencer on, you know, actual white supremacist Richard Spencer.

00:32:11.000 They gave him airtime yesterday to talk about Donald Trump's tweets.

00:32:15.000 Why is Richard Spencer being polled about this?

00:32:15.000 Why?

00:32:17.000 Who gives a crap about what Richard Spencer, an actual white supremacist, has to say about any of this? 0.97

00:32:22.000 The reason is because CNN is trying to imply that if you support President Trump, then you are like Richard Spencer. 0.98

00:32:28.000 And if you think that the tweets are bad, but you also don't think that the tweets are End of world bad, Trump's an obvious racist, he ought to be expelled from office bad, then you are just like Richard Spencer.

00:32:40.000 That Trump's real constituency is Richard Spencer, as opposed to, you know, the 65 million people who voted for the President of the United States. 0.96

00:32:47.000 When CNN does that, and they won't ask a single question to a Democrat about, you know, Ayanna Pressley saying openly racist crap over the weekend, Or Ilhan Omar saying anti-semitic stuff repeatedly.

00:32:58.000 They won't ask Democrats what they think of an actual terror attack on an ICE facility with a person who's basically paraphrasing AOC.

00:33:06.000 You think Republicans are going to have a trust problem?

00:33:08.000 Maybe just a little bit?

00:33:09.000 I mean, honestly, CNN bringing Richard Spencer on is an amazing thing.

00:33:12.000 Here's what that sounded like yesterday.

00:33:14.000 White nationalist Richard Spencer, who hailed Trump when he was first elected, is among those who are turning on Trump.

00:33:21.000 Many white nationalists will eat up this red meat that Donald Trump is throwing out there.

00:33:29.000 I am not one of them.

00:33:33.000 CNN had him on specifically to suggest that his real base is white nationalists.

00:33:40.000 That's what they are doing.

00:33:42.000 And so when CNN asks Republicans what they think of race, what do you think Republicans are going to say to that?

00:33:46.000 Again, many things can be true at once.

00:33:48.000 Once.

00:33:49.000 One, the president's comments are bad, and they're really bad.

00:33:52.000 They were bad, morally wrong, morally egregious, xenophobic at best, racially tinged.

00:33:59.000 Maybe verging over into the racist.

00:34:01.000 All of those things can be true.

00:34:03.000 Also, it can be true that we do not trust the media's definition of racism and the Democrats' definition of racism. 0.98

00:34:07.000 Two, we think that they are damned liars because they don't apply an even standard to folks. 0.96

00:34:11.000 Instead, they're applying a standard that is politically convenient for them. 0.99

00:34:14.000 Three, they're attempting to paint President Trump personally as a racist so that they can, four, declare everyone who supports him a racist.

00:34:21.000 All of those things are true.

00:34:22.000 All of them at once.

00:34:24.000 In just a second, we're going to see how this plays out for the Democrats because this battle is not just restricted to one side of the aisle.

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00:37:17.000 So Republicans have been having trouble responding to Democrats on the basis of President Trump's Because President Trump's comments, again, put them in an uncomfortable, dumb position because President Trump did something both morally and politically wrong here.

00:37:38.000 It was a mistake.

00:37:40.000 At the same time, Republicans are not willing to trust the left and the media with their assessment of the situation.

00:37:44.000 In fact, all trust is gone in American political life, because everything is used as a club to wield.

00:37:50.000 Republicans are looking at Democrats, they're saying, why would we trust you to assess what is racist and what is bad and what is immoral, when you're ripping Paul Ryan?

00:37:59.000 You're saying that Donald Trump is un-American for declaring that these four women have un-American points of view.

00:38:06.000 In 2012, the Democrats literally ran an ad with Paul Ryan throwing an old woman off a cliff in 2012.

00:38:13.000 Just flashback to that.

00:38:14.000 It says, remember what Paul Ryan did to Granny?

00:38:19.000 And then it's an actual reenactment of Paul Ryan throwing Grandma off a cliff.

00:38:24.000 This is a Democratic super PAC. 0.74

00:38:27.000 Literally killing an old woman. 0.99

00:38:29.000 Okay, and then there was another ad that they cut in 2012 in which they accused... I mean, they literally have him throwing an old woman off a cliff.

00:38:37.000 You think that that doesn't threaten people?

00:38:39.000 Democrats have been calling Republicans Nazis for years.

00:38:41.000 Everyone. 0.72

00:38:42.000 Everyone's a Nazi. 1.00

00:38:42.000 Everyone's a white supremacist. 1.00

00:38:44.000 And then you're asking us what we think of your assessment of white supremacism and Nazism? 1.00

00:38:47.000 We think your assessment sucks. 0.98

00:38:49.000 So even if we were inclined to grant that the president's tweets are bad and cross lines and are morally wrong, we're not going to answer that way to you guys because we think that you're dishonest hacks. 0.99

00:38:59.000 You're the same people who didn't mind it at all, apparently, when in 2012, Joe Biden suggested that Mitt Romney was a vicious racist who wanted to put black people back in chains.

00:39:10.000 And a Democratic super PAC cut an ad suggesting that Mitt Romney gave a man's wife cancer.

00:39:18.000 I don't think Mitt Romney understands what he's done to people's lives by closing the plant.

00:39:22.000 I don't think he realizes that people's lives completely changed.

00:39:28.000 When Mitt Romney and Bain closed the plant, I lost my health care.

00:39:32.000 And my family lost their health care.

00:39:36.000 A short time after that, my wife became ill.

00:39:39.000 I don't know how long she was sick.

00:39:40.000 Mitt Romney gave people cancer.

00:39:42.000 Joe Biden likened the Tea Party to terrorists.

00:39:44.000 According to sources, this is Politico reporting in 2011.

00:39:47.000 He likened members of the Tea Party who wanted to restrict spending to terrorists in American government.

00:39:53.000 And yet now we're told that Donald Trump is crossing the line?

00:39:55.000 Guys, if you were worried about line crossing, maybe you should have applied that evenly all the way across the board.

00:40:01.000 I'm worried about the line crossing. 0.99

00:40:02.000 The difference is that when Trump crosses the line, I say he crossed the line, I say that it was garbage. 0.98

00:40:06.000 When Steve King crosses the line, not only do I say that he crossed the line, I max out to his primary opponent. 0.98

00:40:11.000 When Democrats cross the line, you guys back them all the way to the hills, and then you feature them on national television.

00:40:17.000 And this is where I think the backlash could set in in favor of Republicans. 0.96

00:40:21.000 Because if Americans are given the choice between the uncomfortable, dumb, bad tweets of Donald Trump and the sentiments expressed by Ilhan Omar and the squad. 0.98

00:40:32.000 I'm not sure that they choose the squad. 0.98

00:40:34.000 I really am not sure.

00:40:36.000 Plus, the squad is now turning on Nancy Pelosi again. 0.99

00:40:39.000 Now remember, the same squad that is supposed to be the be-all end-all... I mean, this is... You wonder why Republicans don't trust the Democratic assessment of what racism constitutes?

00:40:47.000 Maybe it's because AOC and the squad think Nancy Pelosi's a racist. 0.98

00:40:49.000 Everybody's a racist, according to AOC and the squad.

00:40:53.000 They did an interview with CBS, with Gayle King.

00:40:57.000 And they literally suggested again, AOC and Rashida Tlaib suggested that Nancy Pelosi was responsible for attacks and death threats against them.

00:41:06.000 We're supposed to give credibility to these people?

00:41:09.000 This is your big move here?

00:41:12.000 Here's AOC and Rashida Tlaib returning to last week's fight and going after Nancy Pelosi again. 1.00

00:41:16.000 So that wound remained closed for approximately five seconds, papered over by President Trump's dumb tweeting. 0.94

00:41:22.000 And it's reopening immediately. 0.98

00:41:23.000 I did not say that she was disrespectful of women of color.

00:41:27.000 I found some of the comments disrespectful, and that was my personal opinion.

00:41:31.000 And I did feel that singling out on the basis of one vote was creating an opening.

00:41:41.000 The fact of the knowledge is, and I've done racial justice work in our country for a long time, acknowledge the fact that we are women of color.

00:41:47.000 So when you do singles out, be aware of that and what you're doing, especially because some of us are getting death threats, because some of us are being singled out in many ways because of our backgrounds, because of our experiences, and so forth.

00:42:00.000 So having these women stand up there and talk about what they perceive to be racism is not going to be effective with the American people because frankly they think everything is racist except when they themselves are being racist.

00:42:08.000 When Ayanna Pressley is going out over the weekend and suggesting that black folks are not black if they disagree with her.

00:42:13.000 And when Ilhan Omar is dropping anti-semitic slurs every five seconds and Rashida Tlaib is accusing everybody of dual loyalty and AOC is suggesting that everything including cauliflower is racist.

00:42:23.000 Maybe they're not the best judges of this particular situation.

00:42:26.000 In other words, Who makes the assessment matters in American politics and everyone has lost such credibility and intellectual honesty that nobody trusts anybody to make the assessment anymore.

00:42:37.000 There is no commonality.

00:42:39.000 There is no common standard that we hold to make these assessments at all.

00:42:44.000 And there's a double standard in the media when it comes to exactly the sort of material that they find objectionable.

00:42:49.000 So you'll get AOC suggesting that Mitch McConnell is complicit in advancing racism.

00:42:53.000 This is the same AOC who defended Ilhan Omar's antisemitism to the hilt.

00:42:57.000 The same AOC whose squad refuses to come out openly and just condemn a terrorist attack on an ICE facility.

00:43:05.000 The majority leader is complicit in advancing racism in America if he doesn't even have the backbone to speak out against the most basic, basic line.

00:43:17.000 Honestly, if these members go on the record condoning the president telling women of color to go back to their own country, I invite them to because we will win the 2020 election and we will take this country back because we believe in fighting for every American.

00:43:34.000 Okay, and then AOC ignores in her own caucus. 1.00

00:43:37.000 So if that were her line, and I thought she were an honest person, I might agree with some of what she says there.

00:43:42.000 But I don't think that she's an honest person.

00:43:44.000 Because when it comes to Ilhan Omar and Open Anti-Semite, she defended her to the health.

00:43:47.000 Omar was asked by Gayle King, does she regret any of her anti-Semitic comments?

00:43:50.000 She said yesterday, no, she does not.

00:43:52.000 The other women were sitting right next to her when she said this. 1.00

00:43:56.000 The way that we hear and consume information is very different than how the next person might.

00:44:03.000 So you don't regret your words either?

00:44:04.000 I do not, but I have gotten the... I am grateful for the opportunity to really learn how my words made people feel and have taken every single opportunity I've gotten to make sure that people understood Um, that I, I apologize for it.

00:44:23.000 She didn't apologize for anything!

00:44:24.000 She just said she doesn't regret a word she said! 0.97

00:44:26.000 She hasn't apologized for a damn thing! 0.96

00:44:28.000 She's never apologized for anything! 0.98

00:44:30.000 It's unreal! 0.95

00:44:31.000 She's sitting there right next to AOC, and Tlaib, and, and Ayanna Pressley, and they're all sitting there, silent, as this open anti-Semite is talking about how she's fine with what she said before, and then all of them are like, well, if you're silent about President Trump's tweets, well, you're a racist. 0.92

00:44:31.000 It's unreal! 0.92

00:44:46.000 What if I'm not silent about his tweets and I think that you guys are just full of crap? 0.98

00:44:49.000 What if I think that the tweets were bad, and wrong, and morally objectionable? 1.00

00:44:52.000 But I also think that you guys are damned liars and radicals and you shouldn't be in charge of the country. 0.99

00:44:56.000 What if both of those things are true at the exact same time? 0.99

00:45:00.000 But if I say that, apparently then you go right back to the poll question.

00:45:03.000 Well, don't you think that Trump's comments were racist?

00:45:06.000 And if they were racist, how could you possibly support him for president?

00:45:10.000 Because lots of things can be true at the same time.

00:45:12.000 He can say bad things, racially tinged things, things I find objectionable and terrible.

00:45:16.000 I have not wavered one iota in my assessment of President Trump as a personality since 2016.

00:45:21.000 I think that President Trump, when it comes to his personal behavior, has always been not only deeply flawed, but in many areas a disaster area.

00:45:29.000 That does not change what the left is doing, their broad definition of racism, the reaction to that, the fact that we are supposed to now choose between the squad and Trump.

00:45:38.000 If you're going to force me that choice, guys, that choice is not hard. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Because I think Trump says dumb, ignorant, foolish things on a regular basis. 1.00

00:45:44.000 It isn't. 1.00

00:45:48.000 I think he says offensive things on a regular basis.

00:45:51.000 And then I think his policies match mine, mostly. 0.99

00:45:54.000 And I think that the people who oppose him say stuff that is just as dumb or foolish or irresponsible, except I don't think that it's just foolish and irresponsible in their case. 0.99

00:46:02.000 I think many of those people are actually ill-motivated and vile. 0.99

00:46:06.000 I think that their motives are nasty. 1.00

00:46:09.000 And I think that they are militarizing Trump's stupidity against him in a way that is politically viable, but I think dishonest, obviously. 1.00

00:46:20.000 The lack of nuance and complexity in our analysis of American politics is what is leading to this breakdown. 1.00

00:46:26.000 The dichotomy.

00:46:27.000 Because we can't just have the question that is asked out there in the ether without looking at the ramifications of the question, how it's asked and how it's answered.

00:46:34.000 That, I think, is what is going on right here.

00:46:36.000 And you're seeing the Republicans struggle with all of this because, again, two things can be true at once. 0.99

00:46:41.000 Trump's comments can suck, and also the squad can suck radically. 0.99

00:46:44.000 They can just be awful. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Because, guess what?

00:46:47.000 They are.

00:46:48.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate.

00:46:52.000 So, things that I like today.

00:46:53.000 There's been a lot of talk about patriotism, and this made me think of the Amazon show, Patriot.

00:46:58.000 Now, this show is not for everyone.

00:46:59.000 It is supremely quirky.

00:47:01.000 It's a spy drama, but it's really a spy kind of drama comedy.

00:47:05.000 It's extraordinarily dark, but it's got some moments that are really very funny.

00:47:10.000 It's more situational comedy than kind of punchline, laugh out loud funny.

00:47:15.000 It's just bizarre situations and a person being put in awkward, bizarre situations.

00:47:19.000 So if you don't mind awkward humor, then this is the show for you.

00:47:22.000 Here's a little bit of the preview for Patriot.

00:47:26.000 I would like to send someone over to get in front of this election.

00:47:30.000 Who?

00:47:31.000 My son, but it's complicated.

00:47:33.000 He records folk music under an assumed name because he says it helps him with his feelings.

00:47:39.000 Hey brother.

00:47:41.000 All you gotta do is bring a bag of money from A to B. That's it.

00:47:45.000 It's never easy like that.

00:47:48.000 This project's gonna play out in Iran and Luxembourg.

00:47:51.000 McMillan comes and goes both places.

00:47:53.000 Lakeland.

00:47:54.000 Okay, so the series is really weird and quirky, and it's got some real moments.

00:47:59.000 So you can go check it out over at Amazon Prime.

00:48:03.000 It's got some funny stuff in it.

00:48:04.000 Amazon's Patreon, so go check that out.

00:48:07.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:48:12.000 So everything is canceled.

00:48:13.000 Everything that is good in American life historically is now canceled.

00:48:17.000 A lot of this is manufactured.

00:48:19.000 Okay, so all of the supposed outrage over the Betsy Ross flag was manufactured.

00:48:22.000 Colin Kaepernick is adult.

00:48:24.000 He doesn't know anything about the Betsy Ross flag or Betsy Ross.

00:48:27.000 He declares it racist because some white supremacists will seize on any symbol of the American founding and try to reuse it for themselves.

00:48:34.000 And the left acquiesces in this and goes along with this.

00:48:36.000 And that raises a question.

00:48:37.000 Eric Erickson, I saw, raised this question online.

00:48:39.000 I think it's the right question. 1.00

00:48:41.000 Why is it that when a couple of idiotic, disgusting white supremacists say things like, the flag, the Betsy Ross flag is racist, and we love it because it's racist, why does the left respond? 1.00

00:48:53.000 Not by saying, oh, they're so full of crap. 1.00

00:48:55.000 This is not a racist symbol. 1.00

00:48:56.000 Why does the left respond by going, you know what?

00:48:58.000 It is a racist symbol.

00:48:58.000 They're right.

00:49:00.000 And now we cannot have any of the nice things.

00:49:03.000 The American flag is racist now.

00:49:04.000 The Betsy Ross flag is racist now. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Why does the left go along with all that?

00:49:09.000 Because it really is a tiny minority of people who don't know anything about history, who immediately jump to a conclusion based on, what, the trollery of the alt-right and white supremacists on Gab or 4chan?

00:49:21.000 Why does the left go along with that?

00:49:26.000 Racist groups have always attempted to grab American symbols and use them for themselves.

00:49:29.000 The American Nazi Party used to have rallies with giant American flags and pictures of George Washington in the background.

00:49:35.000 This did not mean that the American flag represented the Nazis or that George Washington was a Nazi.

00:49:40.000 And you didn't see the left at the time say, oh, well, I guess that George Washington was a Nazi.

00:49:44.000 You see the American Nazi Party is using him right there.

00:49:47.000 The KKK used to routinely grab American symbols and then use them and suggest that America was the KKK.

00:49:55.000 Good-hearted folks on the left didn't say, well, you know what, they're right.

00:49:57.000 All those symbols are now banned.

00:49:58.000 But this is what we're seeing now.

00:49:59.000 We're starting to see symbols of the United States that have nothing to do with white supremacy.

00:50:04.000 They are grabbed by white supremacists, and then the left acquiesces in that grab and suggests that the solution to this is to ban the symbol.

00:50:11.000 So, today's example of completely manufactured controversy.

00:50:15.000 So, Yahoo runs a piece about Chris Pratt, the actor.

00:50:18.000 Now, Chris Pratt is pretty apolitical.

00:50:20.000 By apolitical, I mean he's not a social justice warrior, and he has not openly come out as a conservative and said, I am a conservative.

00:50:26.000 And Chris Pratt happens to be a religious Christian, and he's kept his politics pretty close to his chest.

00:50:31.000 Everything I've ever heard him say has been talked, you know, that has any political ramifications, has been about personal responsibility and giving glory to God.

00:50:38.000 That's basically it.

00:50:40.000 Which is a pretty innocent message, as far as I am concerned.

00:50:43.000 Well, Chris Pratt made a huge mistake, according to Yahoo News.

00:50:46.000 What was his supposed huge mistake?

00:50:48.000 Well, according to Yahoo News, his supposed huge mistake is that he wore a Don't Tread On Me t-shirt with the Gadsden snake.

00:50:56.000 Now, that t-shirt was... Okay, that flag, the Gadsden flag, was actually the first symbol of the US Navy.

00:51:02.000 According to Yahoo News, it was controversial.

00:51:06.000 The writing and snake combo on its own is depicted on the Gadsden flag, a symbol created by Christopher Gadsden, a Charleston-born brigadier general in the Continental Army.

00:51:13.000 It came to prominence, according to Yahoo News, during the Revolutionary War of the United States by colonists who wanted independence from Great Britain.

00:51:21.000 Although it is one of the symbols and flags used by the U.S.

00:51:23.000 men's soccer team, Metallica, and some libertarian groups, over the years, the flag has been adopted by far-right political groups like the Tea Party, as well as gun-toting supporters of the Second Amendment.

00:51:33.000 And none of those are actually bad groups.

00:51:36.000 The Tea Party is not far-right.

00:51:37.000 The Tea Party was mainstream-right.

00:51:39.000 And gun-toting supporters of the Second Amendment, that would just be like, you know, people who believe in the Second Amendment, pretty much, right there.

00:51:45.000 Which, as it turns out, is an amendment to our Constitution, which is our founding document.

00:51:51.000 Which provides the basis for American government, of which Yahoo News is a beneficiary.

00:51:58.000 And then, Yahoo News says, it has therefore become a symbol of more conservative and far-right individuals, and according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission of the U.S., it also is sometimes interpreted to convey racially-tinged messages in some contexts.

00:52:10.000 They had to go searching far and wide for that one.

00:52:13.000 And then, they tweeted, they quoted six particular tweets, from six people who are not verified on Twitter and have about 15 followers and then they headline this that Chris Pratt is criticized for the quote-unquote white supremacist t-shirt.

00:52:27.000 Now the question is not why Yahoo News does this sort of clickbait.

00:52:31.000 We all understand why they do this sort of clickbait.

00:52:32.000 The reason they do this sort of clickbait is because they want the clicks, obviously.

00:52:35.000 It's the same reason that the news created this faux controversy about black Ariel, as though there were scads and oodles of people who were deeply broken up and concerned about the race of a fictional mermaid.

00:52:47.000 They were just out there in force.

00:52:49.000 Again, all they could come up with is like three people, and at least one of those accounts was pretty much completely fake.

00:52:56.000 So they create a controversy.

00:52:57.000 They did the same thing with the black stormtrooper in Star Wars.

00:53:01.000 Oh my God, John Boyega's going to be in Star Wars?

00:53:03.000 How can there be a black stormtrooper? 1.00

00:53:04.000 Lando Calrissian's in the original.

00:53:06.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:53:07.000 No one cared.

00:53:08.000 No one.

00:53:09.000 And so they create these faux controversies.

00:53:11.000 But the question is not why these clickbait sites create faux controversies.

00:53:16.000 The real question is why the left goes along with them, and then you start seeing this multiplier effect where people are like, yeah, why is Chris Pratt wearing a Gadsden flag?

00:53:25.000 That is a symbol of white supremacy.

00:53:27.000 And you're like, really, is it?

00:53:29.000 The left has gone along with this pretty much at every turn.

00:53:32.000 So there is a symbol.

00:53:33.000 It is called the OK symbol right here.

00:53:35.000 This is not me making a white supremacist symbol.

00:53:36.000 This is the OK symbol.

00:53:38.000 In some contexts, like Steph Curry, it is the three point symbol.

00:53:41.000 And it's amazing.

00:53:43.000 Now watch Media Matters clip that, freeze frame it, and suggesting that I'm making a white power symbol.

00:53:48.000 Because this is what they do.

00:53:49.000 Why?

00:53:50.000 Well, because if you are looking under every nook and cranny of American life for racism and bigotry and white supremacy, Anywhere you can find it, you will grab it, you will blow it up, and then you will suggest that it is indicative of America's deep underlying racism.

00:54:05.000 And so if you can't find enough real racism, you just make up fake racism.

00:54:08.000 And then, when you do see an instance of what you perceive to be real racism, it's too late.

00:54:12.000 You've cried wolf one million times.

00:54:14.000 This is how you get to the poll results on Trump's tweet.

00:54:17.000 This is a you guys problem. 0.99

00:54:20.000 Trump's tweets are a problem, and separately, your assessment of what racism is, is completely fictionalized and crap. 0.99

00:54:27.000 Because you've been searching for it in all the wrong places, and then lying about it when it isn't occurring, and declaring that Chris Pratt is a frickin' white supremacist on the basis of wearing a Gadsden flag. 0.99

00:54:36.000 There's something else that's going on here, too. 0.86

00:54:38.000 I think Ben Domenech at The Federalist, I believe, was the one who made this point.

00:54:41.000 Whoever made it is a good point.

00:54:43.000 The point is that for the left, the reason that they are so willing to go along with the obliterate... It was Dan... Sorry, it was Dan... His name is... He's from National Review.

00:54:54.000 I can't believe his name is... He'll forgive me.

00:54:57.000 I can't believe his name is slipping my mind.

00:54:58.000 In any case, the actual... The point that he is making is that for the left, for so many people who are on the left, They actually share the goal of obliterating America's symbols.

00:55:09.000 Because they believe that America is steeped in racism and bigotry and homophobia.

00:55:13.000 Because they believe that America is a deeply racist place and the Constitution is driven by racism and white supremacy. 1.00

00:55:20.000 They share a goal with these radical morons who are trying to relabel the Gadsden flag racist. 1.00

00:55:26.000 So they know the Gadsden flag isn't racist. 1.00

00:55:29.000 Or at least they suspect it's not.

00:55:31.000 But it's Dan McLaughlin, sorry.

00:55:33.000 The National Review guy.

00:55:35.000 Instead, what they are trying to do is they share a common cause.

00:55:38.000 The common cause is, let's get rid of these symbols altogether because America is deeply racist.

00:55:43.000 We'll find places to place our interpretation of racism.

00:55:48.000 Every place we can find it.

00:55:49.000 And two, if we share the common cause of painting America's history as irredeemably racist, then we will even go along with your lies.

00:55:56.000 We'll even go along with Betsy Ross's flag as a representative of racism. 0.96

00:55:59.000 This is Nike's routine.

00:56:00.000 We'll even go along with that because it backs the overarching narrative that everything in American history was racist.

00:56:06.000 You could literally pick a random object from the Revolutionary War era, and it becomes racist.

00:56:11.000 You can pick a mural of George Washington that asks serious questions about American history in San Francisco, and it must be obliterated, because all of American racism is not controversial, it is openly racist.

00:56:21.000 All of it's racist.

00:56:22.000 You can find a canon on the Cambridge Commons, next to which George Washington assumed command of the Second Continental Army.

00:56:28.000 And you can, or the First Continental Army, and you can declare the cannon racist because the cannon itself is a symbol of a time in which slaves were held.

00:56:38.000 The left goes along with this because it fits with their perspective on American history. 0.99

00:56:42.000 It's ugly, it's stupid, it's divisive, but it's not particularly shocking. 0.99

00:56:47.000 And the media do this with nearly everything now. 1.00

00:56:49.000 So to take a more prominent example, yesterday the Washington Post ran a piece called, The Hard Charging Space Program, Breakthroughs, Breakups, and Breakneck.

00:57:00.000 And they tweeted about it, and their suggestion in their tweet, their suggestion in the tweet, is that it was overwhelmingly white, NASA.

00:57:10.000 This is what we should take away from the NASA space program.

00:57:13.000 Not the incredible achievements of humanity.

00:57:17.000 Not the magic of NASA using what, by comparative terms, were abacuses in order to send a man to the moon.

00:57:23.000 You have more computing power in your iPhone right now than all of NASA had when we sent a man to the moon.

00:57:29.000 It's not that.

00:57:31.000 The real story is that they lived in a society where racism was common.

00:57:31.000 That's not the story.

00:57:35.000 Which is not a story, because we all know that.

00:57:38.000 That's not the story of NASA.

00:57:41.000 That's like saying the story of Babe Ruth is the story of racism.

00:57:43.000 No, the story of Babe Ruth is a guy who had a lot of home runs.

00:57:46.000 Also, the story of MLB included racism, no doubt, at the time.

00:57:50.000 But that's not Babe Ruth is... Babe Ruth's... When I talk about Babe Ruth hitting 60 home runs, that is not an indicia, an indicator of white supremacy.

00:57:57.000 That's Babe Ruth hit 60 home runs.

00:57:59.000 It's a different story.

00:58:01.000 To read racism into everything, including the moon landing.

00:58:05.000 Okay, so what's the idea now?

00:58:06.000 We gotta take down the American flag on the moon. 0.61

00:58:07.000 Because the flag is racist, the moon is racist, and NASA was racist. 0.98

00:58:10.000 Everybody's racist. 1.00

00:58:12.000 So Karen Heller has this dumb piece today, talking about this. 0.98

00:58:16.000 Back then in the 60s, rocket scientists were the badass dudes of innovation. 0.93

00:58:19.000 Just the title was about the highest Brainiac accolade that could be conferred.

00:58:23.000 As in, he's smart, but he's no rocket scientist.

00:58:26.000 As NASA worked relentlessly to fulfill John F. Kennedy's goal of landing a man on the moon by decade's end, it turned to the nation's engineer.

00:58:32.000 Many of them were fresh out of school, running the gamut from mechanical to electrical engineers, because that's mostly what was taught in universities, and almost exclusively to white men.

00:58:42.000 If the story of the moon landing was racism, I think that you're missing the story and you're doing it on purpose.

00:58:48.000 I suspect that you are doing it on purpose to back a separate narrative that it turns out has nothing to do with the moon landing.

00:58:53.000 It's all about wiping out the glories of American history in favor of a separate narrative.

00:58:56.000 I was talking with a friend of mine on the left yesterday, and she was saying, why can't we believe that America is the greatest country in world history and is great and was great, and also recognize that America's history is shot through with racism and white supremacy?

00:59:09.000 And I said, well, we can certainly recognize both of those things.

00:59:12.000 But I have a feeling that a lot on the left are not willing to acknowledge the first or explain why they believe the first is true if they believe the second is the overarching theme.

00:59:20.000 Where you put the focus is the key.

00:59:22.000 If you look at the moon landing and your first take is, not, unbelievable.

00:59:26.000 America is such an incredible country that we put a man on the moon using old garbage technology and the ingenuity of the human mind.

00:59:34.000 And we did it because we are free and because we are creative and we defeated an evil empire in doing it.

00:59:39.000 If your first instinct is, ah, but segregation was still a thing then, wasn't it?

00:59:44.000 And NASA was full of white folks. 0.97

00:59:46.000 Yeah, we know.

00:59:47.000 That wasn't the actual story at this particular time.

00:59:49.000 You want to talk about segregation?

00:59:50.000 Perfectly up for it.

00:59:51.000 You want to talk about the evils of Jim Crow?

00:59:52.000 Perfectly up for it. 0.95

00:59:53.000 You want to talk about America sucking and every aspect of American life being tinged by this?

00:59:58.000 And not up for it nearly as much.

01:00:01.000 Alrighty, well, we will be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content, or we'll see you here tomorrow.

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01:00:37.000 Today, over on the Matt Wall Show, the left is continuing to eat itself.

01:00:41.000 The latest example is the president of Planned Parenthood experiencing an early termination, shall we say.

01:00:47.000 She was fired from Planned Parenthood for the crime of believing that only women can get pregnant.

01:00:54.000 Also, Ayanna Pressley, one of the members of the Squad, has Just made one of the most bigoted statements we've heard from an American politician in several decades, and that's not an exaggeration.

01:01:06.000 Finally, I asked a left-wing doctor to define the word man for me, and he wasn't able to do it.

The Ben Shapiro Show - July 17, 2019

Why Republicans And Democrats Hear Different Things | Ep. 819

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