The Ben Shapiro Show - Why The Media Get Gaza Wrong | Ep. 540

00:00:00.000 The media's propaganda on behalf of terrorist group Hamas continues.

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00:00:04.000 And North Korea tries to pull the rug out from under President Trump.

00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:02:38.000 Yesterday, the media continued their policy.

00:02:41.000 Their policy is to repeat whatever Hamas tells them, the terrorist group Hamas. 0.71

00:02:44.000 The media coverage on this has just been extraordinary and demonstrative of the fact the media do not care about the actual facts on the ground in the slightest.

00:02:53.000 They legitimately do not care about the facts on the ground, because I can show you some of the facts on the ground.

00:02:58.000 We showed you some of the facts on the ground yesterday.

00:02:59.000 Here are some more facts on the ground.

00:03:00.000 So we begin with this tweet.

00:03:02.000 OK, this is from a reporter named Raf Sanchez.

00:03:04.000 It's from April.

00:03:05.000 So these protests, supposed protests, you know, peaceful protests that are actually violent riots, these have been going on for two months.

00:03:11.000 These are actual pictures from the Gaza Strip from Raf Sanchez, who is not a pro-Israel reporter, and he tweeted out, So Hamas is paying people to go out there and attempt to get shot by Israeli forces so they can have those pictures on the front pages.

00:03:35.000 The Israelis know that people are flying kites with swastikas.

00:03:37.000 They know this.

00:04:01.000 And they use it to discredit you, to say this shows you're bad people.

00:04:06.000 What do you think about that? 0.98

00:04:07.000 This is actually what we want them to know, he says, that we want to burn them.

00:04:28.000 So the best part of that clip is where Steve Inskeep is like, you know they're using your swastikas for propaganda. 0.84

00:04:33.000 And Hamas is like, well, I don't care. 0.99

00:04:36.000 We want them to know that we want them to burn in the ovens just like the Jews in the Holocaust. 1.00

00:04:40.000 And I love the puzzlement of the media. 0.97

00:04:43.000 But you don't understand, like, it makes you guys look bad.

00:04:46.000 Like, we don't care. 1.00

00:04:47.000 We want to kill Jews. 1.00

00:04:48.000 And we like the swastika. 1.00

00:04:50.000 There are no Jews, by the way, living in the Gaza Strip.

00:04:52.000 It's amazing.

00:04:53.000 For all the talk about apartheid states, zero Jews live in the Gaza Strip.

00:04:56.000 Zero Jews live in Palestinian Authority-controlled areas.

00:04:58.000 The reason is because zero Jews live basically around the Middle East.

00:05:01.000 All of these supposedly moderate Muslim nations and leaders are not interested in having Jews in their country. 1.00

00:05:07.000 There is, however, in the Gaza Strip, a haircutting place called Hitler. 0.84

00:05:10.000 I'm not kidding.

00:05:11.000 There's actually a shop apparently called Hitler in the Gaza Strip.

00:05:14.000 So they've got their priorities very straight over there.

00:05:17.000 And again, when the media say that these are nonviolent protests and that everything is hunky dory, OK, this is coverage from yesterday.

00:05:24.000 Significant damage to farms inside Israel due to these kite-flown Molotov cocktails. 0.86

00:05:30.000 So here is what's happening.

00:05:31.000 The terrorists in the Gaza Strip are making kites, and then they are putting Molotov cocktails, which essentially is alcohol or gasoline with fire attached or little bombs, and they are flying them over the border.

00:05:42.000 And then they are hoping that those kites land in Israeli fields and start significant fires. 0.63

00:05:47.000 And so you can see all of the pictures online.

00:05:49.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:05:50.000 They've made these large kites.

00:05:51.000 They've attached Molotov cocktails to them.

00:05:53.000 And you can see all the pictures of the fields burning in Israel.

00:05:56.000 But don't worry, it's all nonviolent.

00:05:58.000 Also, we've heard that Israel has been indiscriminately shooting Palestinians.

00:06:01.000 Indiscriminately. 0.97

00:06:02.000 Like just going out there and mowing down Palestinians. 0.96

00:06:04.000 Sure, there were 40,000 Palestinians who were protesting, who were rioting on the border on Sunday and Monday.

00:06:11.000 Sure, only about 60 of them were killed.

00:06:15.000 And sure, it turns out that Hamas is admitting the vast majority of those people were Hamas members.

00:06:19.000 Here is a senior official with Hamas named Salah al-Bardawil, and he's on a Palestinian TV network, and he's explaining full out that the vast majority of people who were killed were Hamas members, members of terrorist groups.

00:06:32.000 It says, in the last round of confrontations, if 62 people were martyred, 50 of them were Hamas.

00:06:41.000 50 of them were Hamas.

00:06:42.000 OK, Hamas is not hiding the ball. 0.58

00:06:44.000 They are not hiding the ball.

00:06:45.000 They're absolutely clear about this. 0.75

00:06:46.000 They organized this stuff because they wanted people shot.

00:06:49.000 They organized violent protests at the border because they want people shot because they like the pictures.

00:06:54.000 Or, alternatively, they were hoping they could break the fence and people would rush through.

00:06:57.000 All the people who are saying today, well, why didn't Israel use rubber bullets?

00:07:00.000 Why didn't Israel use alternative forms of dissuasion when it came to the border?

00:07:05.000 Because if they had done that, then people would have cut through the border.

00:07:07.000 And you know what happened then?

00:07:09.000 You know what happened if Hamas gets through the border? 0.93

00:07:11.000 Literally hundreds of terrorists were waiting to rush through the border if the border opens.

00:07:16.000 And you know what that's going to mean?

00:07:17.000 Then it's going to mean that Israel has to mow down hundreds of people. 0.95

00:07:20.000 Mow them down! 0.56

00:07:20.000 Because once they get into Israel, you know what they're going to do? 0.56

00:07:22.000 They're going to go to any Israeli settlement they can find, any place that Israelis live, any place that Jews live, and they're going to murder them in their beds. 1.00

00:07:29.000 That's what Hamas does. 0.97

00:07:30.000 And yet it's Israel that's the problem here. 0.99

00:07:33.000 It's Israel that's a serious issue here.

00:07:34.000 You can see the Democrats making this case.

00:07:36.000 It's just astonishing.

00:07:37.000 Bernie Sanders, he blames President Trump for all this.

00:07:40.000 Not Hamas, which, again, has been doing this sort of thing since Hamas was conceived.

00:07:45.000 Hamas has been leading riots and violence and murder and kidnapping of Israeli soldiers and civilians for decades at this point.

00:07:51.000 And they've certainly been doing it since 2006 when they took over the Gaza Strip. 0.91

00:07:54.000 But Bernie Sanders is going to blame President Trump for all of this, even though Trump is

00:07:58.000 As it turns out, relatively new on the scene. 0.99

00:08:00.000 Here's Bernie Sanders, an ignorant anti-Israel basher, doing this routine. 0.98

00:08:04.000 And I fear that we are going to get sucked into a Sunni-Shia-Saudi Arabia-Iran war, which could be never ending. 0.99

00:08:13.000 Never ending.

00:08:13.000 I think we're looking at an Orwellian nightmare of never-ending war, and we've got to do everything we can to prevent that.

00:08:21.000 Just insane.

00:08:22.000 Just insane. 0.76

00:08:24.000 We're fueling Trump?

00:08:27.000 Republicans?

00:08:27.000 Americans?

00:08:28.000 We're fueling an Orwellian war between Shia and Sunni? 0.96

00:08:31.000 Dude, the Shia-Sunni war has been going on for legitimately a thousand years. 0.82

00:08:35.000 And as for the notion that Shia-Sunni war now is being promulgated by President Trump, no, it was promulgated by President Obama, who decided to strengthen Iran.

00:08:43.000 And it's Iranian money that's being put in the pockets of Hamas terrorists today.

00:08:46.000 It's Iranian money.

00:08:48.000 That is being used to pay people to get shot by Israelis. 0.64

00:08:51.000 This is uncontroversial, but Democrats have a particular perspective on the world that is completely afactual, and they continue to push that perspective as well.

00:08:58.000 Whoopi Goldberg doing this routine too.

00:09:00.000 Well, you know, the U.S.

00:09:01.000 lost credibility by putting our embassy in Jerusalem.

00:09:04.000 Oh, you mean as opposed to when we lost credibility by handing $150 billion to the Iranian government, a terrorist government? 0.79

00:09:10.000 Whoopi Goldberg, Middle East expert.

00:09:12.000 Explain it, Whoopi.

00:09:14.000 I don't think that any one side should have done this.

00:09:20.000 I don't think we should have done this at all.

00:09:22.000 And now we've lost our, I feel, lost a bit of credibility because the Palestinians also feel that that's their land too.

00:09:28.000 They've, you know, they've lived there, life has been there, you know, that's their blood also.

00:09:35.000 OK, this is incorrect. 0.88

00:09:37.000 The idea that the United States was ever supposed to be an honest broker between a liberal democracy in the Middle East and a terror state in the Gaza Strip and the Palestinian Authority is patently insane.

00:09:47.000 Well, good for the Trump administration.

00:09:48.000 The Trump administration has stood tall here.

00:09:50.000 Nikki Haley at the U.N. 0.98

00:09:52.000 doing what needed to be done yesterday.

00:09:53.000 Of course, there was a U.N.

00:09:53.000 Security Council resolution brought against Israel, because of course there was, because the U.N.

00:09:58.000 Security Council is a heaping pile of

00:10:01.000 The UN itself should be torn down and we should salt the ruins. 0.93

00:10:05.000 The United Nations is just a horrific institution, a horrible institution filled with evil nations who get an equal say in the supposed rules of international law. 1.00

00:10:14.000 It's an absurd institution. 0.55

00:10:16.000 There's no rationale for having an institution with Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan on their Human Rights Council.

00:10:22.000 It's just bizarre and weird.

00:10:24.000 Anyway, Nikki Haley is there.

00:10:25.000 And the UN has basically become a staging ground for Democrats.

00:10:29.000 It's a way for them to go there and rip on the United States, as Barack Obama was fond of doing.

00:10:32.000 And for Republicans, it's a way for Republicans to go there and rip on the international body itself.

00:10:38.000 There was Nikki Haley yesterday defending Israel's actions in the Gaza Strip, which, of course, she should be doing. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Nikki Haley, again, she is my spirit animal at the UN.

00:10:45.000 At the UN, Nikki Haley is my spirit animal.

00:10:47.000 Here she is.

00:10:48.000 I asked my colleagues here in the Security Council, who among us would accept this type of activity on your border?

00:10:57.000 No one would.

00:10:58.000 No country in this chamber would act with more restraint than Israel has.

00:11:04.000 In fact, the records of several countries here today suggest they would be much less restrained.

00:11:12.000 Of course, all of this is true.

00:11:13.000 By the way, there are 45 Palestinians who were killed in Syria in April.

00:11:17.000 You heard about any of that?

00:11:18.000 You hear a word about that?

00:11:19.000 No, because it wasn't Jews who were doing the shooting.

00:11:21.000 As long as it is Jews who are defending themselves, then suddenly the world media is up in arms.

00:11:25.000 I'm going to explain in a little while why the media react this way with regard to Israel, as opposed to reacting when other nations kill people wholesale, as opposed to Israel, which engaged in extraordinarily targeted killings.

00:11:35.000 Amazing.

00:11:36.000 Again, the New York Times was suggesting indiscriminate killing by Israel.

00:11:39.000 They're pushing.

00:12:03.000 And what is the proof of this?

00:12:05.000 The proof of this is that Hamas has repeatedly 0.95

00:12:20.000 Historically, continuously hid behind civilians in the middle of war.

00:12:24.000 There was a report from the Washington Post in the middle of the 2014 Gaza war that Hamas was hiding weapons in schools.

00:12:30.000 In schools.

00:12:31.000 Because they knew that if Israel were to bomb the schools, then the international community would blame Israel for the hiding behind civilians.

00:12:38.000 This is not new.

00:12:39.000 This is not new.

00:12:39.000 And again, they are not hiding the ball here.

00:12:41.000 I'm going to show you some of the things that people in the media have been saying about this.

00:12:44.000 It's just astonishing in just a second.

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00:14:17.000 Speaking of the insanity of the media, there are legitimately members of the media today who are saying that because Israel did not lose any soldiers, because there were no Jews who were killed in this confrontation with terrorists and rioters at the border, which is the whole purpose of having a border, the whole purpose of having a barbed wire border is so that you do not have to have your own soldiers killed attempting to kill terrorists.

00:14:38.000 Because Israel killed 62 people and no Israelis were killed, there are legitimately people saying today that this is a massacre and Israel has lost the moral high ground.

00:14:46.000 I'm not kidding. 0.74

00:14:46.000 They're saying that more Jews should have died. 0.74

00:14:48.000 If Israel wanted to show parody, they should have apparently just dropped a bunch of Jews naked into the middle of the Gaza Strip and have a few of them torn apart limb from limb, as has actually happened to an Israeli soldier in Ramallah about 15 years ago. 0.98

00:15:00.000 They should just go ahead and do that.

00:15:02.000 And then everything will be fine.

00:15:03.000 Then we'll acknowledge that there's moral parity.

00:15:05.000 But because Israel killed more Palestinians and Israel did not die, there were no Israelis who died, this means there is no moral parity.

00:15:11.000 Okay, Damon Linker from The Week, whose work sometimes I like.

00:15:14.000 I mean, this is crazy.

00:15:15.000 He tweeted out, 0.99

00:15:23.000 Dude, go F yourself. 0.88

00:15:25.000 I mean, are you kidding me? 0.99

00:15:26.000 So if somebody attacks me on the street, and I pull out my gun and I shoot them, you know what the score is? 0.73

00:15:30.000 The score is now 1-0.

00:15:32.000 Was it self-defense?

00:15:33.000 Turns out it was.

00:15:35.000 Because self-defense is not based on the amount of damage that the person does to me.

00:15:40.000 It is not based on how many of my children the person kills before I shoot them.

00:15:43.000 My whole goal is to prevent the death of me, or my children, or my family members, or my friends.

00:15:48.000 That's what's going on in Israel.

00:15:50.000 Because if these invaders cross the border, they are not there to run in and drop a job application at the local Sparrows.

00:15:56.000 That's not their goal.

00:15:57.000 They're not trying to break through the border because they are desperate to go to an Israeli McDonald's.

00:16:00.000 That's not what's happening here.

00:16:02.000 What's happening here is very simple.

00:16:03.000 People are trying to cross the border to commit acts of terror.

00:16:06.000 They're openly admitting this.

00:16:07.000 It's not just Damon Linker tweeting out this insanity.

00:16:09.000 There's Harun Moghul at NBCNews.com, who for some reason was solicited to write a piece, and he writes, quote, 0.75

00:16:23.000 Again, what in the living hell are you talking about, dude?

00:16:26.000 Like, of course, of course, Israel is losing less people than the Palestinians. 0.92

00:16:29.000 You know why?

00:16:30.000 Because they actually built a state with an active military that is capable of protecting its citizens, as opposed to Hamas, which is a tyrannical military dictatorship.

00:16:40.000 But we're supposed to believe that Israel lost moral legitimacy because it didn't kill more of its own Jews? 0.67

00:16:44.000 The whole reason Israel was established in the first place is to protect Jews from having to be killed.

00:16:49.000 Jews were sick after 2,000 years of being killed en masse.

00:16:52.000 It turns out they were sick of earning the moral high ground through their corpses being spread on fields everywhere.

00:16:58.000 And so they decided, hey, you know what might be good?

00:16:59.000 Let's pick up some guns and create a state. 0.98

00:17:01.000 They did, and now when the Jews defend themselves and, well, you know, if more Jews were to die, then that would definitely be more even-handed. 0.92

00:17:07.000 You know what?

00:17:08.000 I'm not going to sacrifice any of my family members.

00:17:10.000 You're not going to sacrifice any of your family members.

00:17:12.000 If anybody said this about American soldiers, everybody would understand how disgusting and evil this is.

00:17:16.000 Well, if more American soldiers were to be killed, surely that would establish a moral parity. 1.00

00:17:20.000 Go, really, go to hell. 1.00

00:17:21.000 Go to hell. 1.00

00:17:22.000 I mean, what absolute nonsensical garbage. 1.00

00:17:25.000 OK, meanwhile, the real question to be asked here is why are the media doing this? 0.98

00:17:30.000 Again, the ball is not being hit in.

00:17:32.000 Everything is transparent.

00:17:33.000 Everything is out front.

00:17:34.000 Everything is absolutely 100 percent clear.

00:17:37.000 You can see what Hamas is doing. 0.77

00:17:38.000 There are pictures of it.

00:17:39.000 There are tapes of it.

00:17:40.000 They're talking about it openly.

00:17:41.000 To pretend that this is not happening is to be willfully blind.

00:17:44.000 And yet, members of the media are being willfully blind. 1.00

00:17:47.000 You've got idiots like Michelle Goldberg over at the New York Times, who legitimately is a dumb human being. 1.00

00:17:52.000 And she wrote, quote, First of all, if the Palestinians wanted to cut a deal and make East Jerusalem their future capital, guess where the United States would put their Palestinian embassy? 1.00

00:18:11.000 In East Jerusalem, you don't.

00:18:13.000 And then she says, the event was grotesque. 0.64

00:18:15.000 It was a consummation of the cynical alliance between hawkish Jews and Zionist evangelicals who believe the return of Jews to Israel will usher in the apocalypse and the return of Christ, after which Jews who don't convert will burn forever.

00:18:26.000 Has this person ever met a Christian?

00:18:28.000 Like Michelle Gilbert, she's writing this in the pages of the most prestigious newspaper in America.

00:18:32.000 Has she ever met a person who believes in the Jesus?

00:18:35.000 Has she ever met a person who goes to church?

00:18:38.000 Michelle Goldberg, I'm not sure, has ever met an evangelical Christian.

00:18:41.000 If she believes that all evangelical Christians are just trying to reestablish Jerusalem as the Israeli capital so that Jesus will make his grand reappearance and then they'll all forcibly convert the Jews or the Jews won't be raptured or some such. 0.99

00:18:55.000 Like, this is so ignorant. 0.92

00:18:57.000 OK, I talk to thousands of evangelicals, thousands of them, not just daily on the show. 0.98

00:19:01.000 I mean, in person, I talk to thousands of evangelical Christians across the country.

00:19:05.000 I have not heard this used as an excuse for backing Israel by one of them.

00:19:08.000 Not one.

00:19:10.000 This is not typical.

00:19:11.000 This is the sort of.

00:19:14.000 Millennialist view of Christian support of Israel.

00:19:17.000 This is a straw man that is put up by folks on the left because the vast majority of evangelicals do not believe that this is why they are supporting Israel.

00:19:23.000 They believe they're supporting Israel because Israel is a moral power in the region, because Israel has a historical and religious right to be there, and because Israel is the root of the Western civilized tree.

00:19:32.000 That is why.

00:19:33.000 Not because of any of this Revelations type stuff.

00:19:36.000 But the media are pushing Hamas's propaganda.

00:19:38.000 They're pushing Hamas's propaganda.

00:19:39.000 Why?

00:19:40.000 So there is a couple reasons why the media are pushing Hamas's propaganda.

00:19:43.000 First,

00:19:44.000 Members of the Western media believe, wrongly, that everyone thinks the same things about human rights and individual freedom.

00:19:51.000 They think this.

00:19:52.000 So they have this weird, bizarre perspective that everyone secretly, deep down in the cockles of their heart, wants to live in San Francisco.

00:19:59.000 That that's the kind of life they want to live.

00:20:01.000 That if you are a Palestinian, a Muslim Palestinian, who believes that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is a holy place and that the Jews are occupiers from the river to the sea, that if you believe that, really you don't believe that.

00:20:11.000 Really, what you really believe is that there should be gay rights, and everybody shouldn't have kids, they should have puppies, and that the sexual revolution was awesome. 0.95

00:20:19.000 That's what everyone seriously believes, like, deep down.

00:20:21.000 But these Palestinians don't believe it because of the system, because of the hierarchy, because of oppression and repression.

00:20:27.000 And when they sacrifice children by putting them out at the front lines, and when they hide behind those children as terrorists, the reason they're doing this is out of desperation.

00:20:34.000 So assumption number one is that Palestinians actually want the same thing so that Westerners do, en masse.

00:20:39.000 Okay, this is not true.

00:20:40.000 There are some Palestinians who certainly want those things.

00:20:42.000 But the vast majority of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip voted for Hamas in 2006, and polls show the vast majority of them are supportive of Hamas now.

00:20:49.000 Okay, so that's paternalistic view number one.

00:20:51.000 Paternalistic view number two...

00:20:53.000 is that Palestinians are not actively pursuing Western definitions of freedom.

00:20:58.000 But that's not because they don't believe in Western definitions of freedom.

00:21:00.000 No, because everyone believes in Western definitions of freedom.

00:21:03.000 They don't believe in Western definitions of freedom and they don't pursue Western definitions of freedom because they are so oppressed and because they are angry and humiliated.

00:21:11.000 And that's why.

00:21:12.000 If we just got rid of the anger and humiliation, then the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, all these people would be thrown out in favor of the Labour Party in Britain. 0.97

00:21:19.000 That's what would happen.

00:21:20.000 This is so paternalistic, it is so ignorant of realities on the ground, it is almost beyond words.

00:21:25.000 Sarab Amari writes a commentary, he's exactly right.

00:21:42.000 There are desperate people all over the world who never translate their frustration into suicide bombing, stone-throwing, border-rushing, and days of rage.

00:21:48.000 It does the Palestinians no good to treat them as children entitled to tantrums, as permanent wards of the international community, or worse, as wild men bereft of reason. 0.84

00:21:56.000 Then again, such high-handed pity isn't really about helping the Palestinians so much as it is about flattering their Western friends.

00:22:02.000 Okay, so in just a second, I want to explain why it seems the press has such antipathy to Israel.

00:22:06.000 It is connected with the press's antipathy for President Trump, their antipathy for Brexit, their antipathy for nationalism more generally.

00:22:12.000 I'll explain.

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00:23:18.000 Okay, so...

00:23:38.000 Why is it that the Western media are so... Why do they have such antipathy for Israel?

00:23:42.000 Why Israel? 0.84

00:23:43.000 So, the easy answer is because they're not fond of the Juden.

00:23:46.000 Okay, and maybe there's some truth to that, but I would venture to say that most of the people who are anti-Israel don't consider themselves anti-Semitic.

00:23:53.000 They'll tell you they have Jewish friends.

00:23:54.000 Many of them are Jewish.

00:23:56.000 So why is it that there's this antipathy for Israel?

00:23:58.000 It goes to something deeper.

00:23:59.000 It goes to something deeper.

00:24:01.000 And that is there's been a shift in the Western mentality with regard to the nation-state.

00:24:04.000 So,

00:24:05.000 There's been a lot of talk lately about the differences between nationalism and patriotism.

00:24:09.000 Well, I believe that I'm a more patriotic guy than a nationalistic guy, meaning I'm not a blood and soil nationalist who believes that just because I was born here, America is great.

00:24:16.000 No, I think America is great because we share a common heritage, a common culture, a common set of values.

00:24:21.000 But,

00:24:22.000 I do believe that the nation-state is a better way to organize the world than is an international, utopian, global government.

00:24:30.000 I just don't think that's going to work.

00:24:31.000 I think it's never worked.

00:24:32.000 I think an attempt to spread empire has usually failed.

00:24:35.000 The nation-state is a better solution to people's aspirations so long as the nation-state is promulgating good values.

00:24:42.000 Having a group of people who share a certain tribal affinity thanks to culture and values and also share a value system that is worth upholding.

00:24:50.000 This has been the basis of Western civilization for a very long time, particularly since the Protestant Reformation, the Peace of Westphalia, in which the idea of sort of a Catholic hegemony over the Western world was shattered in favor of this idea that if you're a nation, you deserve self-determination so long as you fulfilled certain basic moral precepts.

00:25:06.000 Yoram Hazony of the Herzl Institute has written about this.

00:25:09.000 He has a great new book that is out, I believe, in September.

00:25:12.000 It's called The Virtue of Nationalism, totally worth the read, and really interesting.

00:25:16.000 As he points out, nationalism was responsible for the rise of France, and the rise of Britain, as well as the rise of Germany.

00:25:23.000 Now, after World War II, there's a real push against nationalism.

00:25:26.000 Right?

00:25:26.000 After World War I, there was a push in favor of nationalism.

00:25:28.000 There was a push in favor of the idea of self-determination of peoples, so that they wouldn't be under the thumb of, for example, a German Empire or a Russian Empire.

00:25:35.000 But after World War II, after the Nazis, there was a push against nationalism.

00:25:39.000 The idea was that German nationalism had led to World War II.

00:25:42.000 In reality, it was German imperialism that led to World War II.

00:25:45.000 It was Germany attempting to expand its borders outward, not Germany saying, hey, we just want to sit here within our own borders and not bother anybody.

00:25:51.000 That's nationalism.

00:25:52.000 But imperialism is the idea that you're going to take your nation and spread it out globally.

00:25:57.000 Not that you're going to spread your values where possible among allied nations, but that you are legitimately going to take over other nations and make them Germany. 0.71

00:26:04.000 And that was the German ideal during World War II under the Nazis.

00:26:07.000 This is the idea of a Reich. 0.96

00:26:09.000 This Third Reich. 0.85

00:26:10.000 Okay, so, what happened is that after World War II, there was a rejection of nationalism wholesale.

00:26:14.000 Yoram Hazony writes, and I think he's correct,

00:26:40.000 The idea here is why not a world government?

00:26:42.000 Why not be a real globalist?

00:26:43.000 If it's so great, why not just spread those rules out for everyone?

00:26:46.000 The UN can rule all of us.

00:26:48.000 Why not reject, in this case, Israel's sovereignty in favor of an internationalized Jerusalem? 0.73

00:26:52.000 Why not say there needs to be no Jewish state? 0.98

00:26:54.000 Instead, Jews should just become citizens of the world because we all should be citizens of the world.

00:26:59.000 The answer is obvious.

00:27:00.000 Nations still exist because human beings do not operate this way.

00:27:03.000 Human beings do have tribal affinity.

00:27:06.000 Human beings do look for a collective that shares their values to be a part of.

00:27:09.000 And that collective is not going to be global.

00:27:11.000 It isn't, because people do not share enough values for those collectives to be global.

00:27:15.000 The entire globe does not think like the editorial board of the New York Times.

00:27:19.000 Israel has to exist because the rest of the world doesn't think like the editorial board of the New York Times. 0.91

00:27:23.000 And by the way, if the rest of the world did think like the editorial board of the New York Times, Israel would still have to exist because the New York Times is very much in favor, apparently, of Palestinian terrorism via Hamas.

00:27:33.000 Israel has a right to exist and to defend itself.

00:27:35.000 The same people who oppose Israel opposed Brexit, and they think that President Trump saying things like, make America great again, is inherently evil.

00:27:41.000 Because they think nationalism is the problem, you know, moving in the aftermath of the Hannah Arendt ideology about how nationalism was the great curse on humanity, which really is not true.

00:27:50.000 Tremendous, tremendous violence has happened between nation-states, no doubt, but usually that violence happening between nation-states is because of imperial ambitions that extend beyond the nation-state.

00:28:00.000 In any case, the media continue to mirror Hamas's preferred line, and that is going to get more Palestinians killed.

00:28:05.000 Mark Levin said yesterday that the Palestinians are going to die because of what the media is doing.

00:28:13.000 The media has blood on its hands.

00:28:14.000 This is absolutely true.

00:28:15.000 When the media say that Hamas wins every time a Palestinian is killed, what do you think Hamas is going to do?

00:28:20.000 They're going to put babies on the front lines. 1.00

00:28:22.000 They're going to put women on the front lines. 1.00

00:28:23.000 They're going to put children on the front lines. 0.99

00:28:24.000 And then they're going to claim that Israel is evil and Israel is terrible.

00:28:28.000 It's the same thing terrorist groups try to do with the United States.

00:28:30.000 Terrorist groups have been doing this for legitimately decades.

00:28:33.000 It's the reason why the Geneva Conventions were written in the first place.

00:28:37.000 The reason that the Geneva Conventions were created in the first place was specifically to convince people to stop acting as terrorists hiding among civilian populations.

00:28:44.000 The idea was if you dressed in a uniform and you went out away from the civilian population, then you were accorded certain additional rights.

00:28:52.000 Whereas if you hid among civilians, then those rights went away.

00:28:55.000 That was a good thing. 0.98

00:28:56.000 We're obscuring it now because we are stupid here in the West, and we think that everybody has the same aspirations that we do. 0.97

00:29:02.000 This obviously is not true. 0.92

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00:30:08.000 Okay, so, in other foreign policy news, President Trump is apparently being jerked around by the North Koreans. 0.94

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00:31:19.000 Okay, so now the latest with regard to North Korea.

00:31:21.000 So North Korea is threatening to pull out of this big, this big summit that they were going to have with President Trump.

00:31:27.000 This is always the danger of President Trump accepting the idea of going to a summit in the first place and doing so very publicly, as opposed to sort of just keeping it on the down low and then springing it on everyone.

00:31:37.000 By the way, next week I'm meeting with the North Koreans.

00:31:39.000 The North Koreans are now trying to convince the United States to stop military drills by withdrawing the possibility of the meeting.

00:31:47.000 I was always very skeptical of this meeting.

00:31:48.000 You can go back and listen to the show.

00:31:50.000 I was very skeptical of the idea anything good was going to come from this meeting.

00:31:52.000 I was very skeptical of the idea that North Korea was going to give up its nuclear weapons, particularly because North Korea, knowing that the United States would topple them if they didn't have nuclear weapons, has an interest in pursuing nuclear weapons full scale at this point.

00:32:05.000 Well, according to the Daily Mail,

00:32:06.000 North Korea's government says it is considering calling off a planned nuclear summit between Kim Jong-un and President Donald Trump.

00:32:12.000 Kim's regime said through state-run news agency KCNA that ongoing Max Thunder joint military exercises between the U.S.

00:32:18.000 and South Korea are actually a rehearsal for invasion of the North. 0.73

00:32:22.000 KCNA said, quote, the United States will also have to undertake careful deliberations about the fate of the planned North Korea-U.S.

00:32:27.000 summit in light of this provocative military ruckus jointly conducted with the South Korean authorities.

00:32:33.000 First of all,

00:32:34.000 Well done on them for using the word ruckus in a sentence.

00:32:36.000 But beyond that, this is obviously a ploy to get all of the Trump administration to back off of the military exercise.

00:32:44.000 I'll explain more in just a second.

00:32:45.000 First, the North Koreans are trying to pull back, obviously from the summit, in an attempt to get concessions from the Trump administration.

00:32:51.000 Now, Trump shouldn't do it.

00:32:53.000 The polarity has been reversed.

00:32:54.000 It used to be that the North Koreans were seeking some sort of summit with Trump.

00:32:58.000 Now, once Trump has said yes, he's invested in the idea of a summit.

00:33:02.000 This happens with every president.

00:33:03.000 It happened with Obama, too.

00:33:04.000 Once Obama was invested in the idea of a rapprochement with Iran, then he was invested in pretending that Iran was actually doing the right thing.

00:33:11.000 Well, now the Trump administration is sort of getting sucked into this cycle

00:33:15.000 As well, because now President Trump, apparently the White House, has said that they are going to scale down this particular exercise.

00:33:21.000 So according to UPI, joint exercises between the United States and South Korea will move forward, but the B-52 strategic bomber and eight F-22 Raptors will not be deployed during drills.

00:33:31.000 So, the criticism of the United States and South Korea came as a surprise to the South Korean military.

00:33:35.000 The United States should not have done this.

00:33:36.000 We should not have scaled back the military exercise.

00:33:38.000 We should have told the South Koreans we're not willing to scale back the military exercise. 0.81

00:33:41.000 No concessions to a nuclear-armed North Korea.

00:33:58.000 No concessions.

00:34:00.000 None.

00:34:00.000 The United States is not in a position to be making concessions to probably the worst state on earth, a giant gulag state.

00:34:06.000 There is no excuse for this.

00:34:08.000 It is bad policy.

00:34:10.000 As good as the Trump administration has been on Middle Eastern policy, when it comes to North Korean policy, making concessions to the North Koreans or making concessions to the Chinese, as Trump did over the weekend, none of that is useful stuff.

00:34:21.000 You can't get invested in trying to uphold the credibility of a regime that should have no credibility in the first place.

00:34:27.000 Okay, in other breaking news, apparently there's a bunch of documents that have now come out from the interviews by Congress with Donald Trump Jr., and it turns out that Donald Trump Jr.

00:34:36.000 may or may not have spoken to Donald Trump Sr.

00:34:39.000 after meeting with Russian lawyers at Trump Tower in June 2016.

00:34:42.000 You'll recall that Donald Trump Jr.

00:34:43.000 met with a Russian lawyer named Veselnitskaya,

00:34:46.000 Who he had been told was going to give him material on Hillary Clinton, and that material never materialized, but the question was whether he had told President Trump about it.

00:34:55.000 Well, now what the call logs show is that in the middle of that meeting, he talked with Veselnitskaya apparently, and then there was a call to an unnamed number, an untraceable number, and then it was like four minutes long, and Trump Jr.

00:35:06.000 says that he does not know exactly who was on the other end of that phone, he doesn't remember.

00:35:11.000 I find this relatively unlikely.

00:35:13.000 I would not be surprised at all if President Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting.

00:35:16.000 This, however, does not prove collusion.

00:35:18.000 In order to prove collusion, you have to prove not only that the Trump administration was willing to collude, and that they were willing to talk with the Russian government about going after Hillary Clinton, but that they did, in fact, collude.

00:35:26.000 The material transferred hands, that there was actual

00:35:31.000 There is actual coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.

00:35:35.000 None of that has been proved to any significant extent.

00:35:37.000 We've known this since last year.

00:35:39.000 It is a big deal, okay?

00:35:39.000 I don't want to pretend it's not a big deal that Donald Trump Jr.

00:35:42.000 and top members of the Trump campaign were meeting with emissaries from the Russian government to get dirt on Hillary Clinton.

00:35:48.000 Obviously, that is a problem, okay?

00:35:49.000 But if none of the material changed hands, there's no active collusion.

00:35:53.000 And there's no crime.

00:35:54.000 So, intent does not actually constitute the crime in this particular case.

00:35:58.000 Plus, Donald Trump Jr., it's going to be very hard to catch him criminally because he did what any lawyer would advise Donald Trump Jr.

00:36:03.000 to do here.

00:36:04.000 He said, I don't remember.

00:36:05.000 I don't remember who I was talking to.

00:36:06.000 I don't remember what happened at this meeting.

00:36:08.000 He had a sudden bout of amnesia.

00:36:09.000 Not uncommon in the legal world.

00:36:11.000 It makes a fair bit of sense legally.

00:36:13.000 I think that the left is going a little bit crazy over all of this.

00:36:17.000 The left is suggesting that this is finally the death knell for Trump.

00:36:20.000 It's not going to happen.

00:36:21.000 And this is one of the big problems the left has right now.

00:36:23.000 If you look at the polls, the generic ballot, the generic ballot right now

00:36:28.000 is not that great for Democrats.

00:36:29.000 They're up by, on average, 5.2 percent.

00:36:32.000 Okay, that is significantly down from the 8 to 10 percent that it was just a couple of months ago.

00:36:36.000 Part of the reason for that is because Democrats have been proclaiming from the tops of hills for literally two years now that there was going to be some deus ex machina, that somebody was going to come in from the outside and depose Trump.

00:36:47.000 Robert Mueller was going to come in and save America from the scourge of Trump.

00:36:51.000 Or Donald Trump Jr.

00:36:52.000 was going to come forward with evidence, and that would save America from the scourge of Trump.

00:36:56.000 None of this is going to happen.

00:36:56.000 Trump is going to remain in office for his entire tenure.

00:36:59.000 He's going to be there for at least four years and maybe eight.

00:37:01.000 And the sooner Democrats get used to that idea, the sooner they can start fighting him smart.

00:37:05.000 But they're not fighting him smart.

00:37:06.000 Instead, they're moving far to the left.

00:37:08.000 So it's kind of interesting.

00:37:10.000 There's a case to be made that Barack Obama drove the right so nuts that they began nominating 0.99

00:37:14.000 Fuck the NRA. 1.00

00:37:14.000 Their pro-gun policies have resulted in dead children, dead mothers, and dead fathers. 1.00

00:37:42.000 I'm Pat Davis, and I approve this message.

00:37:45.000 Because if Congress won't change our gun laws, we're changing Congress.

00:37:49.000 So Pat Davis is running for the Democratic nomination in New Mexico's 1st District, and he says, F the NRA, and that's his actual ad.

00:37:55.000 That guy's probably more popular than the mainstream members of the Democratic coalition.

00:37:59.000 Which is not supremely surprising, because the Democratic coalition doesn't have a lot to say on a lot of major issues.

00:38:05.000 There's an article in the Washington Post specifically today about the fact that the Democratic coalition seems to be nominating the most extreme possible human beings.

00:38:15.000 Which is obvious.

00:38:16.000 I mean, last night, there were two socialists who won in races in Pennsylvania.

00:38:19.000 Socialists.

00:38:20.000 Open socialists.

00:38:22.000 The Democratic Party is polarizing largely in response to what has happened with President Trump.

00:38:29.000 So President Trump's victory has made the left crazy. 0.61

00:38:32.000 It's making them crazy.

00:38:32.000 In the same way that there's a case to be made that the right started nominating bad candidates because they were so driven nuts by President Obama and the dominance of the left.

00:38:40.000 Well, now the left is seeing that in reverse.

00:38:42.000 There's an article by James Homan over at the Washington Post today called, The Far Left is Winning the Democratic Civil War.

00:38:48.000 The success of very liberal candidates in primaries across four states is causing a new bout of heartburn among party strategists in Washington who worry about unelectable activists thwarting their drive for the House majority.

00:38:59.000 I remember when these articles were being written about folks from the right, like five minutes ago.

00:39:02.000 Now it's being written about folks from the left, and that's because folks from the left

00:39:06.000 Legitimately.

00:39:07.000 Have, I think, reacted to President Trump with the most extreme possible rhetoric.

00:39:12.000 That's what's going to get them elected.

00:39:14.000 They know it.

00:39:14.000 But it's not going to get them elected in general elections.

00:39:17.000 It works in primaries, doesn't work in generals.

00:39:19.000 Okay.

00:39:20.000 So meanwhile, it turns out that the TV industry has decided that it is deeply imperative to revive every show that has ever been on TV for any amount of time.

00:39:28.000 So they've already revived Roseanne, and now they're apparently reviving Murphy Brown.

00:39:32.000 So CBS executives revealed to reporters on Wednesday morning the return of the politically-minded 1990s-era comedy series, but it will have a new setting.

00:39:39.000 So in the original, Candace Bergen's Murphy Brown anchored a primetime news magazine.

00:39:43.000 You recall that Candace Brown made a lot of headlines at the time because Candace Brown got, she, her character, Murphy Brown, rather, got pregnant out of wedlock and then had the baby.

00:39:54.000 And when Dan Quayle suggested that this might not be a good influence on people, the entire left went insane.

00:39:58.000 How dare he suggest that culture is in any way connected to politics?

00:40:03.000 Then when Joe Biden said without will and grace, there wouldn't be gay marriage, everybody went, yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:40:07.000 So it turns out that culture does have an impact.

00:40:09.000 On politics.

00:40:09.000 But in any case, now Murphy Brown is going to be hosting a show called Murphy in the Morning.

00:40:14.000 Her biggest competitor will be her own son, who's hosting his own conservative morning news show.

00:40:18.000 This is just what we need.

00:40:19.000 We need a really politicized show, I think.

00:40:20.000 I think we need more pop culture that demonstrates full-scale the gap between left and right.

00:40:25.000 I think that's really gonna be good for the country.

00:40:27.000 When executives were asked if the setup was supposed to mirror Morning Joe vs. Fox & Friends, they said yes.

00:40:32.000 So CBS Entertainment President Kelly Kahl said, So apparently they have a combination of new and old cast members.

00:40:35.000 It's going to go into CBS' comedy block on Thursdays at 9.30 p.m.

00:40:50.000 Moving political is only smart if you're actually moving along with the times. 0.92

00:40:54.000 I highly doubt, I really doubt that Murphy Brown is suddenly going to be the big hit the way that Roseanne was when it first broke in because we've seen shows from Hollywood before in which the right is castigated as terrible and evil and ignorant and bigoted.

00:41:09.000 And in fact, I think Roseanne has moved in that direction.

00:41:11.000 I mean, this has been one of the problems with Roseanne's ratings.

00:41:13.000 It started off like a house of fire because there were a lot of Trump supporters said, wow, people who aren't openly disrespecting me.

00:41:18.000 And then it turns out that Roseanne is what Roseanne always was, which is a socially left show, which is promulgating particular messages that a lot of Trump supporters don't believe in, and so people stopped watching the show.

00:41:27.000 Once it turned into another leftist soap opera with a few laughs thrown in, people weren't as interested in it.

00:41:33.000 But this is the way that Hollywood works, right?

00:41:35.000 Hollywood can never grant a fully formed conservative character unless they are cast as a sort of mentorship character who's fuddy-duddy and old and kind of out of it, like Ron Swanson, or like Alec Baldwin's character Jack Donaghy in 30 Rock.

00:41:51.000 If you're that sort of character, they'll cast you.

00:41:53.000 But what's hilarious about that is that as soon as those characters appear on TV, they immediately become the most popular characters on the show.

00:41:58.000 Conservative characters are actually deeply popular on television because conservative characters make for good comedy.

00:42:03.000 When you put a bunch of lefties with their hoity-toity notions about the world in front of conservatives who are sitting there doing the facts-don't-care-about-your-feelings routine, which really was Ron Swanson's routine in Parks and Rec and Jack Donaghy's routine in 30 Rock,

00:42:16.000 When you do that, people resonate to him.

00:42:19.000 They're not going to resonate nearly as much to, why don't you come here and we'll lecture you?

00:42:22.000 Come here and we will lecture you about the right thing to do.

00:42:25.000 Now, speaking of bias in the media, John Oliver did a full-on defense of Venezuelan socialism.

00:42:32.000 He didn't defend Venezuelan socialism so much as he defended socialism from Venezuela's failures.

00:42:38.000 So here is John Oliver on his show the other night trying to say that Venezuela is not real socialism.

00:42:42.000 Real socialism is the countries that I like and that aren't really socialist.

00:42:45.000 Venezuela's not socialist because, you see, Venezuela lost because it was mismanaged, not because it's socialist. 1.00

00:42:50.000 Here's John Oliver making that idiotic case. 0.95

00:42:52.000 But what is happening in Venezuela is not just extremely important, it is absolutely worth paying attention to, because this is not just a story about socialism. 0.99

00:43:00.000 There are plenty of socialist countries that look nothing like Venezuela.

00:43:04.000 It's a story about epic mismanagement.

00:43:06.000 So epic that a nation of 31 million people with the largest oil reserves in the world have been forced to resort to some pretty creative forms of protest.

00:43:15.000 Well, according to John Oliver, there's apparently no connection between a giant centralized government, including nationalization of resources and government mismanagement.

00:43:22.000 None.

00:43:23.000 Incredible.

00:43:24.000 Incredible.

00:43:25.000 You know, people would like to cite Norway in this context.

00:43:26.000 Well, Norway has a large nationalized sector.

00:43:29.000 Right.

00:43:29.000 And when they own large pieces of stock in companies, they allow those companies to function like private entities in the market.

00:43:34.000 In fact, if they don't meet certain profit margins, then they change the staff at those particular companies.

00:43:41.000 So, it's always funny how Democrats, people on the left, people like John Oliver, like to pick and choose among the socialist countries they like.

00:43:47.000 The ones they like happen not to be particularly socialist.

00:43:49.000 The ones that are most socialist, including centralization of resources and top-down government centralization of management power, those are the ones that, they're just failing because of mismanagement.

00:43:58.000 No one understands why they were mismanaged.

00:44:00.000 They just sort of were.

00:44:01.000 Weird how that works.

00:44:02.000 If only socialism were really tried, you know, really tried, then things would go well.

00:44:06.000 It's never socialism if it fails.

00:44:07.000 It's only socialism if it succeeds, which means real socialism has never been tried because real socialism has never actually succeeded.

00:44:14.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:44:17.000 So...

00:44:18.000 This may be the most beautiful piece ever written.

00:44:20.000 This is a piece by Robert Schumann called Widmung, and it is an aria that was transferred over to piano.

00:44:28.000 It was rewritten for piano by Franz Liszt, who is a contemporary of Robert Schumann.

00:44:32.000 It's just a gorgeous piece.

00:44:33.000 Schumann's life is such a tragedy.

00:44:35.000 He had a bunch of kids with his wife, Clara Schumann, who was a concert pianist in her own right, and she toured around Europe, and they were very close with Brahms.

00:44:41.000 He actually called Brahms the next coming of Beethoven, basically.

00:44:44.000 Which is a pretty heavy burden to put on Brahms.

00:44:46.000 Brahms became very close to the family, and then Schumann became severely mentally ill.

00:44:50.000 He actually died in a sanatorium because he was deeply mentally ill.

00:44:53.000 And Brahms fell in love, sort of, with Clara as all of this was happening.

00:44:57.000 It's really a really sad story.

00:44:59.000 In any case, this piece of music by Robert Schumann is just fantastic.

00:45:03.000 This is Arthur Rubinstein, one of the great pianists who ever lived, playing the Schumann's Widmung.

00:45:13.000 We're good to go.

00:45:54.000 It's just a fantastic piece.

00:45:55.000 It's not particularly long.

00:45:56.000 It's about four or five minutes long.

00:45:57.000 You can go check it out over at YouTube.

00:45:59.000 They have a version of it.

00:46:00.000 It's just a beautiful, beautiful piece.

00:46:03.000 So go check that out.

00:46:03.000 Okay, time for a thing that I hate.

00:46:09.000 So yesterday, Tom Wolfe passed away.

00:46:11.000 Tom Wolfe was one of the great non-fiction journalists of the 20th century.

00:46:14.000 I would say that he was the best non-fiction journalist of the last half of the 20th century.

00:46:17.000 First half, you'd have to say, was George Orwell.

00:46:19.000 Second half, you could easily say, was Tom Wolfe.

00:46:22.000 Some of his journalism has just phenomenally died at the age of 87.

00:46:24.000 And if you've never read Radical Chic and Mow Mowing the Flatcatchers, these are two of his finest essays.

00:46:32.000 He wrote a piece called Radical Chic.

00:46:33.000 It was in 1966, and it was about

00:46:37.000 Leonard Bernstein, who is the conductor and head of the New York Philharmonic, and who is a far left guy, like really far left, and his wife, Felicia, who decided they were going to have the Black Panthers to their apartment in the piece called Radical Chic.

00:46:51.000 And I want to read you a little section of it just to show you how amazing these, like legitimately how amazing Tom Wolfe's writing was.

00:46:58.000 Tom Wolfe was able to go into places that no one would have allowed him in because he was considered a Hunter S. Thompson type, who had this weird style of writing, and he was kind of kooky, right?

00:47:06.000 He wore white suits and all this.

00:47:07.000 So he couldn't have really been conservative.

00:47:08.000 It turns out Tom Wolfe was a deeply conservative dude, and Tom Wolfe's writing is deeply conservative.

00:47:13.000 If you've never read Bonfire of the Vanities, the first half of Bonfire of the Vanities is some of the best novel writing ever, and some of the best political commentary ever.

00:47:20.000 Second half falls apart a little bit, but the first half of Bonfire of the Vanities is just great.

00:47:22.000 I think I've read every novel he ever wrote and most of his nonfiction.

00:47:26.000 And I'm very sad that I never got to meet him because I was a big admirer.

00:47:29.000 This is a section from Radical Chic.

00:47:31.000 This is Tom Wolfe writing about all of these far leftists having the Black Panthers over. 1.00

00:47:35.000 The Black Panthers who are acknowledging openly that they want to kill pigs and murder white people. 0.99

00:47:40.000 And all of these radical left people sitting there in their swanky penthouse apartment in New York City, nodding at them and thinking that they've done something magical by having the Black Panthers over. 0.99

00:47:47.000 Here's a section quote.

00:47:49.000 And now in the season of Radical Chic, The Black Panthers. 0.83

00:47:51.000 That huge panther there, the one Felicia, this would be Leonard Bernstein's wife, is smiling her tango smile at, is Robert Bay, who just 41 hours ago was arrested in an altercation with the police, supposedly over a .38 caliber revolver that someone had in a parked car in Queens at Northern Boulevard and 104th Street or some such unbelievable place, and taken to jail on the most unusual charge called criminal facilitation.

00:48:12.000 And now he is out on bail and walking into Leonard and Felicia Bernstein's 13-room penthouse duplex on Park Avenue.

00:48:18.000 Harassment and hassles, guns and pigs, jail and bail. 0.95

00:48:20.000 They're real, these Panthers. 0.96

00:48:21.000 The very idea of them.

00:48:23.000 These real revolutionaries who put their lives on the line, run through Lenny's duplex like a rogue hormone.

00:48:28.000 Everyone casts a glance, or stares, or tries to smile, and then sizes up the house with a somewhat delicious counterpoint.

00:48:33.000 Deny it if you want to, but one does end up making such sweet, furtive comparisons in this season of Radical Chic.

00:48:38.000 There's Otto Preminger in the library, and Gene Vanden Heuvel in the hall, and Peter and Sheree Duchene in the living room, and Frank and Domna Stanton, Gail Lumet, Sheldon Harnick, Cynthia Phipps, Burton Lane, Mrs. August Heckscher, and scores more, including Charlotte Curtis, women's news editor of the New York Times, America's foremost chronicler of society, a lean woman in black, her notebook out, standing near Felicia and Big Robert Bay, and talking to Sheree Duchene.

00:49:00.000 Sharae tells her, I've never met a panther.

00:49:02.000 This is a first for me.

00:49:03.000 Never dreaming that within 48 hours, her words will be on the desk of the president of the United States.

00:49:07.000 This is a first for me.

00:49:08.000 But she is not alone in her thrill.

00:49:09.000 As the Black Panthers come trucking in for Indalini's house, Robert Bay, Don Cox, the Panthers field marshal from Oakland, Henry Miller, the Harlem Panther defense captain, the Panther woman, Christ.

00:49:18.000 If the Panthers don't know how to get it all together, as they say, the tight pants, the tight black turtlenecks, the leather coats, Cuban shades, afros, but real afros.

00:49:25.000 Not the ones that have been shaped and trimmed like a topiary hedge and sprayed until they have a sheen like acrylic wall-to-wall, but funky, natural, scraggly, wild.

00:49:32.000 These are no civil rights negroes wearing gray suits three sizes too big. 1.00

00:49:35.000 No more interminable Urban League banquets in hotel rooms where they try to alternate blacks and whites around the table as if they were stringing Arapaho beads.

00:49:42.000 These are real men.

00:49:43.000 It's just, it's fantastic writing.

00:49:45.000 Go check out Radical Chic and Mow Mowing the Flag Catchers, the best work Tom Wolfe ever did. 1.00

00:49:49.000 His book, The Right Stuff, is just as terrific.

00:49:51.000 It's better than the movie.

00:49:52.000 Real tragedy that he passed away, but he left an enormous and fantastic body of work.

00:49:57.000 Check out Tom Wolfe's work if you have not.

00:49:58.000 Okay, so we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - May 16, 2018

Why The Media Get Gaza Wrong | Ep. 540

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