The Ben Shapiro Show - November 10, 2026


Why the NVIDIA Scandal Threatens the Entire Economy

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00:00:00.000 So, Jensen Huang is the head of Nvidia.
00:00:02.000 It's the most valuable company on planet Earth.
00:00:05.000 And his zipper may have just cratered capitalism.
00:00:16.000 Okay.
00:00:17.000 Man, Jensen Huang.
00:00:18.000 So, as we just noted, Nvidia is the most valuable company on the planet.
00:00:23.000 It makes the sophisticated graphics processing units, the GPUs, the microchips that power everything from gaming to the AI revolution.
00:00:30.000 Nvidia currently represents somewhere between six and eight percent of the entire value, the entire value of the S&P 500.
00:00:37.000 Since 2024, Nvidia has been responsible for somewhere between 20 and 25 percent of all gains, all of them on the S&P 500.
00:00:46.000 Now, Nvidia is an incredibly well known company and an incredibly well run company.
00:00:50.000 Jensen is one of the most sophisticated driven CEOs in history.
00:00:54.000 And he is known this way.
00:00:55.000 There is no substitute for an excellent CEO, and a bad CEO can run your business directly into the ground.
00:01:01.000 That means that Nvidia is running a unique way and it revolves around him personally.
00:01:05.000 For example, his management structure is totally flat.
00:01:07.000 That means that he has about 60 direct reports per day.
00:01:10.000 So typically, when you run an organization, let's say you have the person who's the CEO, you might have a COO and a CMO and a CFO.
00:01:17.000 And they delegate to those people.
00:01:19.000 Those people have direct reports to them who have direct reports to them.
00:01:21.000 That's not what Jensen does.
00:01:23.000 Instead, he basically has everybody report directly to him.
00:01:29.000 Well, there's a very good book called the NVIDIA way by an author named Tai Kim who explained the NVIDIA strategy.
00:01:35.000 Quote, Jensen announced to his executive team he had figured out how to keep NVIDIA ahead of the competition forever.
00:01:41.000 We're going to fundamentally restructure the engineering department to line up with the refresh cycles.
00:01:45.000 He said, NVIDIA would split up the design team into three groups.
00:01:48.000 The first would design a new chip architecture.
00:01:50.000 The other two would work in parallel to the first to develop faster derivatives based on the new chip.
00:01:55.000 This would allow the company to release a new chip every six months in line with PC makers' buying cycles.
00:01:59.000 So, in other words, NVIDIA has stayed ahead of the game because they're constantly reinvesting their profits into building the next thing, and they are doing so on a six month cadence.
00:02:07.000 So, it means that no one can ever catch up to them.
00:02:09.000 The big mistake huge corporations make is they sort of consolidate their gains and then believe that nobody else will ever catch up to them.
00:02:16.000 And that's not what Jensen does.
00:02:18.000 Instead, he keeps the company running extremely hard.
00:02:21.000 Now, a lot of this is personally dependent on Jensen Huang.
00:02:25.000 So, according to the book, Jensen has run the company for 32 years at the time of publication, more than half his life.
00:02:31.000 NVIDIA is bigger, more profitable, and more crucial to the global economy than ever before, yet it still relies on Jensen as a business leader and a tone setter.
00:02:38.000 Apple survived the ouster of Steve Jobs in 1985 and his death in 2011.
00:02:42.000 Amazon, Microsoft, and Google all did well after Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Larry Page and Sergey Brin wanted to move on.
00:02:47.000 Someday, NVIDIA will have to face a similar transition.
00:02:50.000 It is not quite clear what the company might look like post Jensen.
00:02:54.000 Now, this author, Tai Kim, talked to Jensen at the time he wrote the book.
00:02:57.000 About how greatness is achieved.
00:02:59.000 And here's what Jensen said Greatness is not intelligence.
00:03:01.000 Greatness comes from character.
00:03:04.000 And character, in his view, can only be the result of overcoming setbacks and adversity.
00:03:07.000 To Jensen, the struggle to persevere in the face of bad and often overwhelming odds is simply what work is.
00:03:13.000 It is why, whenever someone asks him for advice on how to achieve success, his answer has been consistent over the years I wish upon you ample doses of pain and suffering.
00:03:21.000 All right, well, great.
00:03:22.000 Except that now the pain and suffering are here and they were brought about by Jensen Huang himself.
00:03:27.000 So let's start with this.
00:03:29.000 And the climate of America right now.
00:03:31.000 Americans don't like the tech bros.
00:03:33.000 Doesn't matter that tech is powering America's economic growth right now.
00:03:36.000 They're worried about AI data centers.
00:03:38.000 Last week, voters across the nation rejected new AI data center development despite the fact it's creating jobs and economic growth.
00:03:45.000 Voters are worried about AI development because you have people like Dario Amode over at Anthropic saying that AI development will end with nuclear annihilation.
00:03:53.000 People are deeply worried about AI's impact on, for example, job markets.
00:03:57.000 Now, simultaneously, while voters are very concerned about AI and tech, They are also highly concerned about corruption.
00:04:03.000 That was literally the top issue in the election last week.
00:04:06.000 Not cost of living, not Iran, not AI, corruption.
00:04:10.000 They are worried that people are making bank off of their connections while they themselves are lagging economically.
00:04:16.000 Now, to add insult to injury, an October Politico poll showed that a plurality of Americans believe that all the major tech CEOs are Republican.
00:04:24.000 Now, that isn't remotely true.
00:04:25.000 For example, again, Emoti is pretty obviously on the Democratic side of the aisle.
00:04:30.000 But it does lay the groundwork for something that I've been warning about since literally the inauguration of 2025.
00:04:35.000 The alignment of the Trump administration with the tech bros makes it look as though they are in bed together.
00:04:41.000 And if it looks as though they are getting special privileges, That will all come crashing down if there's a width of corruption, if there's a hint of corruption, and Democrats will jump on that with both feet.
00:04:49.000 Well, now we're here.
00:04:51.000 Now we're here.
00:04:52.000 So, on Sunday, Nvidia had to open an investigation into Jensen Huang, its chief executive and co founder, according to the New York Times, after he acknowledged to the company's board that he had been intimate with a business executive who U.S. intelligence determined was a Chinese spy.
00:05:06.000 So he got swallowed, in other words.
00:05:08.000 Huang's relationship with the woman, who goes by Alice Huang, became a U.S. government concern after surveillance revealed she was feeding information directly to Beijing.
00:05:17.000 The revelation raised troubling possibilities because Huang is one of the most powerful figures in the AI revolution as an influential ally of President Trump as well.
00:05:24.000 In a message to the company, Jensen Huang apologized I was unfaithful to my wife.
00:05:28.000 My actions hurt her and our children.
00:05:29.000 There's no excuse for what I did.
00:05:31.000 I'm deeply sorry.
00:05:32.000 Now, NVIDIA, of course, they're saying that there is no reason to believe national security was compromised or that NVIDIA secrets went the way of the Chinese, but that the board's inquiry will examine all available information.
00:05:42.000 Well, listen, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place.
00:05:44.000 NVIDIA without Jensen is not NVIDIA, and everyone knows it.
00:05:48.000 Okay, so who is the honeypot?
00:05:51.000 Who is this Alice Huang character?
00:05:53.000 Well, all the circumstances surrounding the honeypotting of Jensen Huang are murky, but I'll tell you what needs to be clear.
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00:06:55.000 So according to the New York Post, she served as a top executive at the Singapore based Mega Speed, which is an Nvidia customer and cloud partner that provides AI computing power to Chinese companies, including Alibaba.
00:07:06.000 Before she entered the world of finance, Alice had worked as a reporter for CCTV, the national broadcaster of the Chinese state, and also Hunan TV, a regional broadcaster in central China, according to her LinkedIn biography.
00:07:17.000 She then moved on to Chinese financial companies and the London based HSBC's private banking division.
00:07:24.000 She also worked as an executive at the Shanghai Hexie investment firm that backed Seven Road International.
00:07:28.000 Which would later become Mega Speed.
00:07:29.000 Now, American officials, according to the New York Post, believe that she was recruited at some point by the Chinese Ministry of State Security to spy for the country's main intelligence agency.
00:07:40.000 Now, here is where things start to get really, really dicey.
00:07:43.000 The Commerce Department first flagged Alice as a suspicious actor during the end of the Biden administration following her sudden rise to the top of Mega Speed.
00:07:50.000 Okay, now, this is already bad enough, right?
00:07:54.000 All this is bad enough. 0.92
00:07:56.000 If NVIDIA was compromised by a Chinese honeypot, that immediately raises questions as to what the Chinese knew. about NVIDIA's tech. 0.92
00:08:02.000 And again, bleeding edge tech for NVIDIA means if China got a hold of it, they'd be significantly more competitive, not just in AI, but in defense tech that is linked to AI.
00:08:12.000 It also means the Chinese might have known about NVIDIA's lobbying of the federal government to allow sales of NVIDIA chips to China.
00:08:17.000 But it gets even worse than that.
00:08:19.000 Because again, if you show ties between that and the administration, then the Democrats have all the leverage in the world to apply against the tech companies generally.
00:08:30.000 And it now appears that the Commerce Department was fully investigating Alice Huang's Chinese backed company.
00:08:35.000 And then NVIDIA apparently.
00:08:37.000 Stepped in and told them to stop.
00:08:39.000 And this is where things get really, really kind of ugly.
00:08:42.000 According to the New York Times, investigators at the Commerce Department were deep into a months long investigation of a Singaporean company they suspected of smuggling NVIDIA's artificial intelligence chips into China when their work came to a sudden halt late last year.
00:08:54.000 The investigation centered on Megaspeed, a data center company led by an executive who U.S. officials now believe to be a Chinese spy who had a relationship with Jensen Huang.
00:09:03.000 It is not necessarily unusual for Commerce Department agents working on a case to speak with a company's representatives about issues involving their firm, but what was unusual. Was the content of the message.
00:09:12.000 Tim Teeter, NVIDIA's general counsel, said that Jeff Kessler, a top official at the Commerce Department, had given NVIDIA permission to reach out about the case.
00:09:21.000 The agents were alarmed that NVIDIA had invoked the name of Mr. Kessler, their superior, who was nominated to his role by President Trump.
00:09:28.000 The incident raised questions about what Mr. Kessler, who reports directly to the Commerce Secretary, Howard Letnick, who, again, the Commerce Secretary, Howard Letnick, his net worth has gone up massively during this administration, had discussed with NVIDIA.
00:09:41.000 Perhaps inadvertently, some officials said Mr. Kessler had opened himself to accusations of undue influence.
00:09:45.000 And potentially jeopardize his department's work on mega speed.
00:09:48.000 So, again, what does that look like?
00:09:50.000 To an outside point of view and to Democrats, who will certainly make hay while the sun shines out of this, this looks as though Jensen Huang was sleeping with a Chinese spy.
00:09:59.000 The Commerce Department was investigating her nonsense Chinese backed company.
00:10:04.000 And then there was a coordination that took place from the highest levels of the Commerce Department with NVIDIA.
00:10:09.000 And then the investigation suddenly went and just went away.
00:10:13.000 Well, that is really, really bad.
00:10:15.000 That's really bad.
00:10:16.000 And not just that.
00:10:17.000 It turns out, according to Wired, Jensen Huang began working with a crisis communications firm known for handling public scandals a year before he admitted to having an extramarital affair with a woman suspected by U.S. intelligence of being a Chinese spy.
00:10:31.000 Risa Heller is the firm's founder, and she has built a reputation as a fixer for powerful men facing allegations of sexual misconduct and other personal controversies.
00:10:40.000 So, again, literally a year ago, like October 2025, Huang reached out.
00:10:46.000 So, about the same time, apparently, that the Commerce Department killed the investigation.
00:10:50.000 Into this Chinese backed company that featured the honeypot.
00:10:55.000 About that time, Jensen started hiring a crisis firm. 0.89
00:10:59.000 So, for like a year, this has been sort of brewing.
00:11:04.000 Unsurprisingly, Nvidia's stock dropped more than 4% on Monday after Jensen Huang admitted to having an affair with the alleged Chinese spy.
00:11:14.000 Now, other chip stocks started to climb.
00:11:17.000 The good news about capitalism is Nvidia isn't the only game in town.
00:11:21.000 Broadcom and AMD rose 9 and 13%, respectively.
00:11:25.000 However, again, this is going to open the door.
00:11:28.000 It's not just about what happens to NVIDIA here.
00:11:30.000 That's a huge issue.
00:11:31.000 What happens next with NVIDIA?
00:11:33.000 It is about what Democrats are going to use all of this to do.
00:11:35.000 Democrats will use the appearance of impropriety here and the appearance of corruption to bring down the tech boom about our ears.
00:11:45.000 That is the goal.
00:11:46.000 I promise you that's where this is going.
00:11:49.000 Again, it is a big risk for NVIDIA because Jensen Huang doesn't have a successor over at NVIDIA.
00:11:53.000 It's not like he stepped out.
00:11:54.000 And he just hands it over to somebody similarly qualified, right?
00:11:56.000 It's not Steve Jobs handing it over to Tim Cook or something.
00:12:01.000 And again, there's going to be bipartisan outrage here because Republicans are upset about the Chinese angle to this, and Democrats are upset about the fact that, again, tech companies exist in the first place, but they are very particularly upset with these tech companies working with the administration.
00:12:16.000 And they see an opportunity to make political hay.
00:12:19.000 If the number one issue is corruption in the last election cycle, and people are dyspeptic about AI, what a wonderful story for Democrats.
00:12:26.000 Here is AI and corruption all wrapped up in a ball together.
00:12:30.000 Isn't that nice for them?
00:12:33.000 While the House Foreign Affairs, CCP, and Intelligence Committees have now requested that Jensen Huang appear for a closed door briefing, they put out a statement We are writing to request that you appear before our committees for a joint closed door briefing on NVIDIA's security protocols against foreign adversary espionage and your interactions.
00:12:49.000 They publicly reported PRC asset, Megaspeed executive Alice Huang.
00:12:54.000 Supposedly, they've asked him to appear next week.
00:12:58.000 President Trump, for his part, came out yesterday in defense of Jensen.
00:13:01.000 Here's what the president had to say.
00:13:04.000 I just know Jensen very well.
00:13:05.000 I just think he's a very honorable man.
00:13:08.000 I mean, he built a great company, American company, and I think he's a very honorable guy, and I feel very confident that he'll be in good shape.
00:13:17.000 When you went to China earlier this year in May, did you know about these alleged ties that the Chinese spy then?
00:13:24.000 No, I didn't hear about it then.
00:13:25.000 But a lot of people have heard about it, and Jensen totally denies that.
00:13:31.000 I asked him today, because I did speak to him today, just to see if he's feeling all right.
00:13:34.000 How are you doing?
00:13:35.000 And I asked him about that.
00:13:37.000 And he said he had absolutely no idea that the person in question was a spy.
00:13:45.000 Well, I'm sure that he didn't know the person was a spy.
00:13:47.000 Normally, you wouldn't be stipping a person you knew was a spy.
00:13:50.000 Now, again, there's the scandal itself, which is bad.
00:13:53.000 And then there are these spillover effects to all of this.
00:13:55.000 Democrats are looking for a story just like this, they are looking to crack down on tech as a matter of populism.
00:14:01.000 This is a perfect excuse.
00:14:03.000 There's some Republicans who are anti tech as well.
00:14:05.000 They'll join in.
00:14:06.000 Liquidity will dry up as the investigations begin.
00:14:09.000 Stock market investment will drop.
00:14:10.000 That is at least in part why Anthropic looks like they're going to drop their IPO plans.
00:14:16.000 They were about to, by the way, file an IPO at $1.3 trillion, their IPO, the single biggest IPO in human history.
00:14:25.000 But it is far below the $2 trillion figure that had been floated months ago.
00:14:30.000 So, again, what we are looking at right now, Anthropic might push forward.
00:14:34.000 They're going to do so at a lower level.
00:14:36.000 Maybe they feel like they got to get in while the getting is good.
00:14:39.000 Maybe they feel like now is the moment because, again, things are only going to go down from here.
00:14:43.000 So if you don't wish to IPO three years from now when the market is lower, then now is the time you have to do it.
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00:14:53.000 The Democrats who just joined Congress have no incentive not to strangle the economy.
00:14:58.000 None.
00:14:59.000 On a political level, the incentive structure is actually the other way around.
00:15:02.000 It is totally in their interest for Democrats for the economy to crater.
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00:17:12.000 Let me take you back a little bit of history here.
00:17:15.000 Because again, I've been doing this for twenty five years.
00:17:17.000 In two thousand four, the Republicans won.
00:17:19.000 George W. Bush won re elect.
00:17:21.000 By two thousand six, the Democrats had taken control of Congress.
00:17:23.000 But remember, Bush was still president.
00:17:25.000 The economy tanked in two thousand seven.
00:17:27.000 The responsibility was not placed on Bush and the Democrats, it was placed just on George W. Bush.
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00:17:36.000 And soon after, had a supermajority and rammed through Obamacare.
00:17:40.000 Bad economies with Republican presidents end in catastrophe for those Republican presidents and for their heirs.
00:17:47.000 So, again, Democrats have every intention right now of hard driving this thing into the ground.
00:17:57.000 By the way, this is not about principle, it's not that Democrats are particularly upset about Chinese spies.
00:18:01.000 Remember, Chinese spies exist all over the United States, disproportionately in Democratic campaign offices.
00:18:07.000 You might remember. 0.99
00:18:10.000 That Christine Fang Fang cultivated California politicians, including Representative Eric Suwawa, before leaving the US in 2015.
00:18:17.000 You might remember Linda Sun, a former aide to New York governors Andrew Cuomo and Kathy Hochul, was charged with money laundering and being an undisclosed agent of China.
00:18:26.000 You might remember an actual mayor of Arcadia, California, charged in May 2026 with one count of acting as an illegal agent of China.
00:18:32.000 She pled guilty.
00:18:34.000 And of course, we have seen indictments for technology theft, including a 2019 case against Huawei.
00:18:39.000 A former Google engineer was charged with AI trade secrets in 2024.
00:18:42.000 Chinese medical students.
00:18:43.000 Arrested in 2019 at Boston Logan.
00:18:47.000 Three men charged with conspiring to send AI technology to China.
00:18:52.000 Now, again, it's not as though Democrats are very much against all of this.
00:18:55.000 Many of them are very pro China, right?
00:18:56.000 Hassan Piker literally has a flag of China in the background of his studio.
00:19:02.000 Hassan Piker, who is the id of the Democratic Party, would be happy to see China win, for goodness sake.
00:19:06.000 Here's Hassan Piker yesterday. 0.99
00:19:09.000 I personally don't give a shit. 0.98
00:19:11.000 I want them to copy the chips and I want to have cheap RAM. 0.99
00:19:16.000 I want to have cheap GPUs.
00:19:18.000 I want to have cheap RAM.
00:19:19.000 Give them not just the chips, but the lithography machines.
00:19:23.000 Make them, you know, have access to the microchip technology pronto.
00:19:28.000 We want to flood the market with Chinese copies. 0.99
00:19:31.000 Okay? 0.98
00:19:32.000 That's what I care about.
00:19:33.000 I don't give a f about the national security implications here.
00:19:37.000 That's just me. 1.00
00:19:39.000 So, whatever kind of Chinese strange Janison Huang needs to get involved with to make that happen, I am in support of it. 1.00
00:19:51.000 Okay. 1.00
00:19:52.000 Honeypots for everybody.
00:19:56.000 Again, remember, remember, this isn't about fighting China for a lot of these Democrats.
00:20:00.000 And this story is a Democratic Party dream come true.
00:20:00.000 It's about convenience.
00:20:04.000 It is a recession packaged in populism, packaged in a corruption narrative.
00:20:10.000 It's an onion of joy for Democrats. 1.00
00:20:12.000 And again, it just raises the very real aspect of human life on this planet, which is that everyone is weak, everyone is sinful, people make mistakes, people do things that are stupid. 0.99
00:20:23.000 The smartest people you know will do dumb things. 0.89
00:20:26.000 A Jensen Huang, a brilliant human being, one of the richest people on planet Earth, was drawn into a Chinese honey trap because, again, men still are men and still have zippers. 1.00
00:20:36.000 And that will never stop, not ever. 0.97
00:20:39.000 But if the countervailing effect of this is to destroy the tech boom, if the countervailing effect of this is all going to be Democrats dragging up every major tech CEO and reaming them and dragging them over the coals and connecting them with the Trump administration and taking Trump administration corruption and tying it to the tech sector.
00:20:58.000 What you're going to get is a recession, and then people will blame the Republicans, and then Democrats will be elected on the back of a recession they hope cause.
00:21:04.000 So, you know, great job, everybody.
00:21:06.000 Really, really well done.
00:21:07.000 All of this, you know, it's scary for your pocketbook.
00:21:09.000 It is.
00:21:10.000 And this is why when people have done this sort of populist routine where they say, Oh, who cares about tech?
00:21:15.000 Is tech, is, do you work in the tech sector?
00:21:17.000 What do you care about tech?
00:21:18.000 And the answer is, as we discussed last week, when the stock market saw a massive dump, it turns out that the tech sector affects everyone, not just how you do your work, but also your 401k.
00:21:28.000 How people invest, what happens to liquidity, how easily you get a loan.
00:21:32.000 It is all affected.
00:21:34.000 It is all affected.
00:21:37.000 So, one of the tragedies of human life is that human frailty is capable of having massive externalities.
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00:21:54.000 Father, I used to feel Christ.
00:21:59.000 I cannot feel anything here.
00:22:12.000 They take me out of my bed and they brought me here and they tell me nothing.
00:22:16.000 What have I done?
00:22:17.000 Article 58 counter-revolutionary activity.
00:22:21.000 That is all I know.
00:22:22.000 They have to deal with so many enemies of the state, all of whom claim their innocence, who protest, who cry.
00:22:37.000 There are no answers here other than the ones they put in your mouth.
00:22:43.000 You'll break.
00:22:46.000 Today is your opportunity to demonstrate your loyalty to the people.
00:22:53.000 I'd like to know why I'm here.
00:22:55.000 Of course.
00:22:59.000 But you already know, don't you?
00:23:00.000 You must believe in something greater than the party.
00:23:05.000 You will remember your duty.
00:23:06.000 I've told you I know nothing.
00:23:08.000 Leave ground like a feral animal. 1.00
00:23:12.000 You stink of failure. 0.99
00:23:14.000 You want me to lie? 1.00
00:23:15.000 Still a drunk. 1.00
00:23:16.000 Damn you! 1.00
00:23:19.000 They all break. 1.00
00:23:23.000 Maybe.