The Ben Shapiro Show - Will Trump’s Turn To The Center Last? | Ep. 381

00:00:00.000 President Trump makes a very big announcement about the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

00:00:05.000 Hillary Clinton won't leave. 1.00

00:00:06.000 And the biggest news of the day, a failed person who failed at everything is coming back for more.

00:00:11.000 And no, I'm not talking about Hillary Clinton.

00:00:14.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

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00:00:37.000 Best joke that I saw today was it will be called Star Wars Episode IX Revenge of the Lens Flare, which will be very amusing.

00:00:44.000 But, there's actual news to get to.

00:00:45.000 Many pieces of actual news to get to, and we'll discuss all of those pieces of actual news, one by one, in their entirety.

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00:01:37.000 Okay, so the big news that was just announced this morning was President Trump, in his spin to the left, has decided that it is no longer important that border wall funding be tied to the implementation of President Obama's executive amnesty.

00:02:07.000 Now, I'm old enough to remember when every single rally was filled with two specific chants, really three, right?

00:02:12.000 It was, lock her up, with regard to Hillary Clinton. 0.99

00:02:15.000 She has not been locked up.

00:02:16.000 Then there was, drain to swamp, drain to swamp.

00:02:19.000 The swamp has not been drained.

00:02:20.000 And finally there was, build the wall, build the wall.

00:02:23.000 And now it's, build the DACA, make Jeb Bush great again.

00:02:26.000 Okay, so.

00:02:28.000 As I said a couple of days ago, the fact is that DACA, President Obama's executive amnesty, as imposed by legislature, is basically the DREAM Act that Jeb Bush was pushing for four years.

00:02:37.000 And Donald Trump opposed four years.

00:02:39.000 Well, now it is being announced that President Trump, the initial idea was that Trump was going to trade legalization of the so-called DREAMers for the wall.

00:02:48.000 President Obama's executive amnesty, for those who don't remember, it said that everybody who's between the ages of 16 and 31 had been in the country since 2007 and come over as a child and didn't have a criminal record.

00:02:57.000 Those people could all stay indefinitely.

00:02:59.000 They would never be deported.

00:03:00.000 They would have basically work permits.

00:03:03.000 That's what DACA was.

00:03:04.000 And then Trump came along and he said, we can't do this, you know, from the executive branch, let's do it instead from the legislature, which is not what he had promised.

00:03:11.000 Ann Coulter, hardest hit.

00:03:12.000 Finally, Trump says the legislature should do it.

00:03:14.000 But the idea was, okay, his big deal is going to be, his clever, clever deal, you know, the art of the deal, the magical art of the deal, the MAGA, MAGA, MAGA, 3D underwater chess was going to be that he was going to trade legalization of these dreamers who had already essentially been legalized for to all.

00:03:31.000 Okay, today, The Hill, quote, White House Legislative Affairs Director Mark Short told reporters on Tuesday, President Trump would not demand that border wall funding is tied to a legislative replacement for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

00:03:46.000 Short said, we're interested in getting border security and the president has made the commitment to the American people that a barrier is important to that security.

00:03:53.000 Whether or not that is part of a DACA equation or another legislative vehicle, I don't want to bind us into a construct that would make the conclusion on DACA impossible.

00:04:00.000 In other words, Trump wants DACA.

00:04:03.000 Okay, it wasn't to trade, it wasn't to clever 3D underwater upside down Jedi hungry hungry hippos.

00:04:08.000 Okay, all of this was just he wanted to make DACA great again.

00:04:12.000 Okay, MACA.

00:04:13.000 He wanted to make DACA great again.

00:04:15.000 So if you are a Trump supporter who thinks that he desperately wants the wall, I do have to ask you at this point, are you certain?

00:04:23.000 Do you think it's going to happen any time in the near future?

00:04:25.000 Because I promise you, the Democrats don't want to do that.

00:04:27.000 The Democrats are perfectly happy.

00:04:29.000 His new friends, the Democrats.

00:04:30.000 They're perfectly happy to sit on the sidelines and sink DACA.

00:04:34.000 They're happy to sink President Obama's executive amnesty.

00:04:36.000 They don't care.

00:04:37.000 Because what they want to say is they want to say, listen, we wouldn't trade anything for that.

00:04:41.000 We shouldn't have to have a wall.

00:04:41.000 We shouldn't have to have anything.

00:04:43.000 It's such a high priority that we shouldn't have to give away one dime.

00:04:46.000 We shouldn't have to do anything Trump wants because he says he cares about the Dreamers.

00:04:50.000 We say we care about the Dreamers.

00:04:52.000 No deal.

00:04:53.000 And Trump, instead of pushing back on that and saying, listen, I'm happy to make room for the so-called dreamers, but we have to secure the southern border.

00:05:00.000 Instead of pushing back, he's basically going, okay, sounds great.

00:05:03.000 Why?

00:05:03.000 Well, it has something to do with the fact that the president of the United States really likes the media coverage he has been receiving over the past week.

00:05:11.000 In the last week, we have seen piece after piece, one from the New York Times, Trump, the independent president.

00:05:16.000 This man is independent.

00:05:17.000 Look at him, how independent he is.

00:05:19.000 Ooh! 0.96

00:05:21.000 And Trump really likes that stuff because it makes him feel powerful and strong.

00:05:25.000 I'm happy to attribute all of this to strategery, but I need to see the strategery. 0.98

00:05:30.000 And then Trump's guy says, the president is not backing off a border wall.

00:05:34.000 No, no.

00:05:35.000 The president is committed to sticking by the commitment that a physical structure is needed.

00:05:39.000 Whether that is part of a DACA package or another package, I won't prejudge that today, but he's going to get that wall built.

00:05:45.000 Yeah, sure, okay.

00:05:47.000 As Ann Coulter puts it, we are now eight months in, zero miles of the wall have been built, oh happy, happy day.

00:05:53.000 Okay, so with all of that said, this does bring up a question and that question is, how long is Trump's swivel to the center going to last?

00:06:00.000 How long is it going to last and why is it a problem?

00:06:03.000 So a lot of people have been saying Trump is an independent president.

00:06:05.000 It's something new.

00:06:06.000 We've never seen this before.

00:06:07.000 This is incorrect.

00:06:09.000 If you just want to talk about a president who broke with his party on a routine basis, we have had many presidents who have broken with their parties on a routine basis.

00:06:15.000 Bill Clinton did it with Republicans.

00:06:17.000 I don't think so.

00:06:37.000 On all of this, right?

00:06:38.000 They're willing to say, okay, well, we used to care about the wall.

00:06:40.000 We used to chant, build the wall.

00:06:41.000 We used to chant, lock her up. 0.99

00:06:42.000 We used to chant, drain the swamp.

00:06:44.000 But as long as Trump wants it, we are happy to give it to him.

00:06:47.000 We are so happy to give it to him.

00:06:49.000 And this does give Trump the capacity to move to the left on a permanent basis if he wishes to.

00:06:53.000 But there is one thing that is going to stop him from moving in any real significant way to the left on a long-term basis.

00:07:00.000 Well, it's really two things.

00:07:01.000 One is his own tendencies to knee-jerk backlash.

00:07:05.000 And the other is Democrats hate the guy.

00:07:07.000 They're unifying factors, they must stop him from doing things.

00:07:10.000 If Democrats are animated by opposition to Trump, that means the only way Trump can work with them is complete surrender.

00:07:15.000 And that's what we've seen over the last week.

00:07:17.000 Trump so desperately wants the good headline, he so desperately wants to quote-unquote get something done, that he's willing to work with Democrats.

00:07:22.000 Again, if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative, if you're a Trumpster who doesn't like the establishment, you need to ask yourself, why don't I like the establishment?

00:07:30.000 If you don't like the establishment because the establishment was making deals with Democrats, you don't get to complain now when the establishment tries to prevent Trump from making deals with Democrats.

00:07:42.000 This is nonsensical.

00:07:43.000 But again, the thing for Trump is that Trump thrives on opposition.

00:07:46.000 And this, herein lies the problem for conservatives.

00:07:49.000 Because if conservatives try to stand between Trump and his goal, working with Democrats, guess who's going to become the target?

00:07:54.000 It's going to be conservatives.

00:07:55.000 So, to point out how opposition-minded Trump is, yesterday was 9-11, and Trump gave what I thought was quite a good speech on the 9-11 anniversary, and here is what he had to say about terrorists.

00:08:07.000 American forces are relentlessly pursuing and destroying the enemies, all civilized people, ensuring, and these are horrible, horrible enemies, enemies like we've never seen before. 0.61

00:08:24.000 But we're ensuring that they never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country.

00:08:33.000 We are making plain to these savage killers

00:08:37.000 That there is no dark corner beyond our reach, no sanctuary beyond our grasp, and nowhere to hide anywhere on this very large Earth.

00:08:52.000 Okay, so this is all great stuff.

00:08:54.000 I do like when he describes the Earth as very large.

00:08:56.000 That is amusing to me.

00:08:58.000 But the point is not

00:09:00.000 What he says here, the point is what he says next.

00:09:02.000 Trump always has to operate in an oppositional universe.

00:09:05.000 So Trump actually said, he started ripping his own advisors in the middle of the 9-11 speech basically.

00:09:10.000 Here's what Trump had to say.

00:09:12.000 The way President Trump talked today about the enemy was very important to me.

00:09:17.000 So important to me and so refreshing to me that I sort of knuckled mine into the rope line so I could thank him for simply saying that our loved ones were murdered that day.

00:09:29.000 That is the first time I heard a president since 9-11 use the term murder.

00:09:35.000 And I felt it was really important to thank him for that.

00:09:39.000 And he actually said something interesting to me.

00:09:42.000 He said, my people didn't want me to use that word.

00:09:46.000 It's Deborah Berlin who lost her brother on 9-11.

00:09:50.000 And when Trump says things like, my advisors didn't want me to say murdered, the point here is not really a profound one.

00:09:57.000 It is just that Trump operates in an oppositional universe.

00:10:00.000 And that's what made him so popular in 2016, because everyone hated Hillary Clinton.

00:10:03.000 We'll get to Hillary Clinton in a little while.

00:10:04.000 Her new book, What Happened, is out today.

00:10:07.000 And the answer is,

00:10:08.000 Actually, the bottom of the book, right?

00:10:10.000 It says, what happened?

00:10:11.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:10:12.000 Okay, that's exactly what happened.

00:10:13.000 Okay, that is the thing that happened. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Hillary Clinton was a garbage candidate who lost because she was a garbage candidate. 1.00

00:10:18.000 I think it's worth noting that President Trump won fewer votes in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney did in 2012 and he won the state. 1.00

00:10:23.000 He won fewer votes than George W. Bush did in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan in 2004.

00:10:29.000 Right?

00:10:29.000 Bush lost those states in 2004.

00:10:30.000 Trump won them. 0.98

00:10:31.000 That means Hillary was a garbage candidate, but what Trump did better than anyone else is he's a very oppositional guy. 0.99

00:10:36.000 And so his opposition to Hillary Clinton resulted in a win for people who opposed Hillary Clinton. 0.98

00:10:41.000 Well, Trump operates the same way on everything.

00:10:43.000 So when it talks about his advisors, his advisors didn't want him to say murdered, and so he said murdered.

00:10:48.000 A good way of getting Trump to do what you want is by actually opposing what you want him to do.

00:10:54.000 Right, if you actually oppose him, then he pushes, then you use reverse psychology basically.

00:10:59.000 You say that you oppose all these things and then Trump pushes back against you because Trump is oppositional in nature.

00:11:05.000 That's not a good thing for Republicans and conservatives who are looking at what he's doing right now and saying this is not good that you're making deals with Democrats.

00:11:12.000 It's also not good for Democrats long term though.

00:11:15.000 Because the fact is that Democrats are also animated by this opposition.

00:11:18.000 The idea that he's going to have some sort of long-lasting deal with Democrats is not true because, again, he is an oppositional creature.

00:11:25.000 The Democrats oppose him in the end because they hate him and they want him out.

00:11:29.000 And that means that they will oppose him on key issues and then he'll be forced back into opposition.

00:11:33.000 So I don't think this is going to last for any significant amount of time.

00:11:36.000 Here's an example of this.

00:11:38.000 So, in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey and Hurricane Irma, the media have decided that it is vitally important to point out that they are opposed to Trump.

00:11:46.000 Now, this should be a unifying moment, right?

00:11:47.000 Trump's actually done a pretty good job handling Hurricane Harvey and Hurricane Irma, but the media are so opposed to Trump that they cannot even give him credit for that.

00:11:56.000 Democrats are so opposed to Trump that they have to rip him up and down.

00:11:59.000 That's why I don't think this alliance is going to last

00:12:02.000 Very long.

00:12:02.000 I think Trump will try to make it last, but I don't think it's going to last very long unless Trump is so driven by the headline that he decides to surrender across the board.

00:12:10.000 The media, for example.

00:12:10.000 Jim Acosta yesterday at the White House.

00:12:12.000 He's asking questions about climate change, and here's what he has to say.

00:12:16.000 He finds an excuse to rip Trump for what has been a pretty good disaster response.

00:12:20.000 We're good to go.

00:12:38.000 We're good to go.

00:12:53.000 And they hate Trump so much that these are the sorts of questions that they ask in the middle of a hurricane.

00:12:58.000 Why is Trump so anti-climate change?

00:13:00.000 Why doesn't he just follow the Democratic consensus and do something about climate change?

00:13:05.000 Joy Behar does the same thing on The View.

00:13:08.000 Democrats are animated by their own animus.

00:13:10.000 They are animated by their own hatred for Trump.

00:13:12.000 And this is what's going to prevent Trump from making a deal with them in any long-term way.

00:13:15.000 Here's Joy Behar, who is sort of the id of the Democratic Party.

00:13:18.000 The heat is creating warm waters in the oceans, in the Gulf, wherever, and that is contributing to the intensity of storms like Irma.

00:13:28.000 Why this is the worst storm we've ever seen, etc., has to do with climate change.

00:13:34.000 And people who deny that, they should start naming all of these next hurricanes after Hurricane Limbaugh, Hurricane Pruitt, Hurricane Palin.

00:13:44.000 You know, we do have to, I think it's very important that Joy Behar lecture us on science.

00:13:48.000 I mean clearly, clearly she has in many ways conquered science and somehow made it onto TV. 0.83

00:13:55.000 In any case, this demonstrates the sort of hatred that she has, by the way,

00:13:59.000 The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Institute Association, the government agency, they've said that you can't link any specific hurricane to climate change.

00:14:08.000 Specifically, in fact, we had a very quiet period before this year in terms of hurricanes.

00:14:13.000 The point here, again, is that the Democrats hate Trump so much they're not going to make deals with him.

00:14:16.000 They're just not going to make deals with him.

00:14:18.000 And Trump will react to that by not wanting to make deals with them.

00:14:20.000 So I think he's going to ping pong back and forth.

00:14:22.000 I think that's what's going to happen.

00:14:23.000 His administration is basically going to be Trump reacting to whoever hit him last.

00:14:28.000 Democrats right now are being very nice to him.

00:14:29.000 There will come a time when they're not so nice to him, and when that happens, he will ping-pong back to the Republican side of the aisle, then Republicans won't be able to get anything done, and then he'll ping-pong right back to the Democrats.

00:14:38.000 He is not forming a ruling coalition here, okay?

00:14:41.000 He's not forming a new philosophy and a new ideology.

00:14:44.000 Anyone who thinks he is should watch the last six months, where he seems to be sort of picking and choosing from the tree of issues, varying wildly across what he says and to whom he says it.

00:14:53.000 So, I would not

00:14:56.000 I would not really put a lot of stock in the idea that Trump is making some sort of permanent change in terms of his political orientation that looks like a third way.

00:15:04.000 This isn't a Clintonian third way or a Nixonian third way.

00:15:06.000 Trump is a man of instinct and he operates off that instinct, which is good news on the one hand for conservatives because it means that he's likely to bounce away from Democrats at some point in the future.

00:15:15.000 But it's bad news for conservatives right now because it means that he's bouncing off Republicans right now to work with the Democrats.

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00:16:47.000 So you can see that, you know, I think what's the first step toward pushing Trump back toward Republican and conservative positions?

00:16:55.000 The first step is going to be triumphalism in the same way that Trump reacts to people who are staffed around him.

00:17:00.000 If they get too much publicity, he gets mad at them.

00:17:02.000 I think that you're going to see him start to do this with Democrats, too.

00:17:05.000 So Representative John Yarmuth is a Democrat. 1.00

00:17:07.000 He's out there cheering Schumer and Pelosi and basically saying that Trump is a sucker. 0.99

00:17:10.000 The more the Democrats chortle over Trump being a sucker, the more he is likely to bounce back toward being a Republican. 0.99

00:17:16.000 Again, Trump is an oppositional figure. 0.98

00:17:18.000 He bounces off of things.

00:17:20.000 He's not Silly Putty.

00:17:21.000 He doesn't stick to a particular position.

00:17:23.000 He's a rubber ball who just bounces off of whatever provides him pressure.

00:17:26.000 So here's Congressman John Yarmuth from 3rd District in Kentucky.

00:17:29.000 There's no question whatsoever in your mind that Chuck and Nancy won that negotiation, correct?

00:17:37.000 Oh, totally won it.

00:17:39.000 Totally won it.

00:17:39.000 And believe me, they, on Friday morning, or Thursday morning, it was Thursday morning, I guess, they looked like victorious warriors when they appeared before our caucus.

00:17:55.000 What did they tell you?

00:17:57.000 Well, they both just really relished recounting the scene in the Oval Office.

00:18:06.000 Okay, so he went on to explain that they said basically that they screwed Trump, that they won the debate.

00:18:12.000 The more Trump hears that sort of stuff, the more he's likely to react badly to Democrats.

00:18:16.000 But Democrats have to say it, right?

00:18:17.000 If he listens to me, he's going to react badly to me.

00:18:19.000 Trump is like my three-year-old in this way, okay?

00:18:21.000 You react badly, or really he's more like my one-and-a-half-year-old who screams very loudly, and then if you say no, he screams even louder.

00:18:27.000 Okay, that's sort of what Trump does.

00:18:28.000 So if I say, Trump, you got screwed by Schumer and Pelosi, Trump reacts that by saying that I'm the mean one, and therefore he's fine with Schumer and Pelosi.

00:18:35.000 If Schumer and Pelosi make the big mistake of saying that they're the ones who screwed Trump over, then Trump is going to react badly to them.

00:18:41.000 So we'll see how all of this plays out, but before everybody panics and says that Trump is permanently in the Democratic camp, I just want to point that out.

00:18:49.000 Okay, other things that are in the news today.

00:18:51.000 Hillary Clinton is making her rounds on her book tour.

00:18:54.000 What happened?

00:18:55.000 Hillary Clinton is out today.

00:18:57.000 She still cannot get over her loss because the loss was a referendum on her personally.

00:19:02.000 The loss was a referendum on Hillary Clinton personally. 0.63

00:19:04.000 No one liked Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:19:06.000 I got the election wrong in terms of the result but I did get this right.

00:19:09.000 I said throughout the election that this election was not going to be a referendum on Trump.

00:19:12.000 It was going to be a referendum on Hillary Clinton.

00:19:14.000 That Trump was stuck between 40 and 43 percent and Hillary was bouncing around between 39 and 50.

00:19:19.000 Because people couldn't decide whether they hated her or whether they were quasi lukewarm on her.

00:19:23.000 And in the end it turns out that they hated her.

00:19:25.000 Well Hillary cannot accept that answer and so she continues to trot out various explanations for why she lost. 0.86

00:19:31.000 So today she did an interview with USA Today and she said there was a communication and there certainly was an understanding of some sort between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

00:19:38.000 She says there's no doubt in my mind Putin wanted me to lose and wanted Trump to win.

00:19:43.000 And there's no doubt in my mind they're a tangle of financial relationships between Trump and his operation with Russian money.

00:19:48.000 And there's no doubt in my mind that Trump campaign and other associates have worked really hard to hide their connections with the Russians.

00:19:54.000 Okay, again, does she have any evidence of any of this?

00:19:56.000 No, this is all a conspiracy theory until she can provide evidence of any of this.

00:19:59.000 But she says, I'm convinced of it.

00:20:02.000 She says, I happen to believe in the rule of law and believe in evidence, so I'm not going to go off and make all kinds of outrageous claims.

00:20:07.000 She just did one second to go. 1.00

00:20:10.000 Right?

00:20:10.000 She says, but if you look at what we've learned since the election, it's pretty troubling.

00:20:14.000 And then she talked about other people to blame.

00:20:16.000 She blamed James Comey.

00:20:17.000 She said it was Comey's fault that she lost.

00:20:19.000 She says that Comey shivved her.

00:20:21.000 She says his unusual announcement 11 days before the election revealing her new trove of emails ended up screwing her in the three upper Midwest states.

00:20:28.000 She said my first instinct was that my campaign should hit back hard and explain to the public that Comey had badly overstepped his bounds.

00:20:34.000 My team raised concerns with that kind of confrontational approach.

00:20:36.000 In the end, we decided it would be better to let it go and try to move on.

00:20:40.000 Looking back, that was a mistake.

00:20:41.000 Again, Hillary blaming her aides, not blaming herself. 0.82

00:20:44.000 This is the problem for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:20:46.000 It's the problem for the Democratic Party.

00:20:47.000 They cannot look internally and say to themselves, what did we do to alienate all these people?

00:20:51.000 So instead, what they're doing is they're doing more of the same.

00:20:53.000 So the big news for Democrats today, in the last few days, has been their continuous and constant focus on Medicare for all.

00:21:03.000 This is their new pitch, right?

00:21:04.000 It's Bernie Sanders' old pitch.

00:21:05.000 This Medicare for All pitch.

00:21:06.000 This idea that we are going to supplement Obamacare with a scheme whereby everyone is covered by Medicare.

00:21:11.000 Because Medicare is great!

00:21:12.000 Yay! 0.99

00:21:13.000 There are only a few problems with this.

00:21:14.000 One, there's very little evidence that shows that Medicare has actually improved health outcomes for people.

00:21:19.000 The reason for that is because most doctors are now rejecting new Medicare patients.

00:21:23.000 The reimbursement rates are not high enough for doctors to take new Medicare patients.

00:21:27.000 Also,

00:21:27.000 Medicare is already $58 trillion in unfunded liabilities and debt.

00:21:33.000 $58 trillion.

00:21:34.000 If you're talking about expanding Medicare for All, making me eligible for Medicare, not based on age, not based on health, not based on income, then what you're really talking about is adding $14 trillion to the national debt in the next 10 years alone.

00:21:47.000 Which means that it will end up being double or triple that over the next 20 because that's how every government program always works.

00:21:54.000 But now this has been embraced right across the board because Democrats can't accept.

00:21:57.000 The reason they lost is not because they didn't offer people enough free stuff.

00:22:00.000 Hillary offered lots of free stuff. 0.76

00:22:02.000 The reason they lost is not because they didn't run Bernie Sanders, okay?

00:22:05.000 Bernie Sanders offered people a lot of free stuff.

00:22:07.000 The reason they lost is because they have contempt for the American people.

00:22:10.000 Democrats have contempt for the American people, particularly white people living in Midwestern states. 0.99

00:22:15.000 They think these people are rubes, they think these people are fools, and they think these people ought to be on the losing end of American politics. 0.99

00:22:22.000 That's why they lost in 2016. 0.99

00:22:24.000 They ran the most corrupt harridan in American history, and she lost. 1.00

00:22:28.000 And she lost because she called half the country deplorables. 0.99

00:22:30.000 And then, they're surprised that happened, and they doubled down on all of these things. 0.57

00:22:33.000 They're still calling Trump supporters deplorables. 0.80

00:22:35.000 They're still suggesting that Trump supporters are a group of people who are universally white supremacists.

00:22:40.000 Hey, Ta-Nehisi Coates has a piece in The Atlantic in which he discusses Trump's election.

00:22:44.000 What does he attribute Trump's election to?

00:22:46.000 He says that Trump's election was not attributable to Hillary Clinton.

00:22:49.000 It was instead attributable to racism.

00:22:52.000 That's right.

00:22:52.000 It wasn't.

00:22:53.000 It was all about Trump's racism.

00:22:54.000 It was about his signaling to his white base that he was going to wipe away the achievements of Obama.

00:23:00.000 All right, now, I said during the election cycle that I thought that Trump did not do enough to distinguish himself from the alt-right, that he was sort of covertly and in some ways overtly pandering to the alt-right because he thought they were an important part of his base.

00:23:11.000 But he was not doing that in opposition to Obama.

00:23:14.000 He was doing that in opposition to the intersectional left, of which Ta-Nehisi Coates is a part.

00:23:19.000 The people who say that identity is inextricably intertwined with politics.

00:23:23.000 That white people are part of a white privileged society, keeping black people and Hispanic people down. 0.63

00:23:28.000 That's what people were reacting to. 0.93

00:23:30.000 Not Obama.

00:23:31.000 Obama remains the most popular politician in America.

00:23:33.000 Michelle Obama is right now leading primary polls among Democrats.

00:23:36.000 So the idea that, you know, that it's really about backlash to Obama, that's what all this was, that's not true.

00:23:41.000 It's backlash to intersectionality.

00:23:43.000 But Democrats have to find something other than themselves to blame.

00:23:46.000 Because if they looked in the mirror, then they would actually have to examine what they've done wrong here.

00:23:51.000 And they've done some things pretty wrong, including insulting the American people on a regular basis.

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00:25:14.000 Because the Democrats can't accept that they lost, they continue to trot out Hillary Clinton as some sort of tragic figure.

00:25:19.000 And some of it's really funny.

00:25:21.000 So, according to USA Today, there are poignant moments in her book, particularly as she describes trying to get through the first days and weeks after the election.

00:25:28.000 The suit she had chosen to wear for her victory speech, white, the color of the suffragettes, stayed in the garment bag.

00:25:34.000 You remember when she wore the white suit at the convention.

00:25:36.000 For the concession speech the next morning, she wore a gray and purple suit she had planned to wear on her first trip to Washington as president-elect.

00:25:42.000 Purple, the color combination of red and blue, was designed as a subtle tip to bipartisanship.

00:25:49.000 Okay, I still do get a kick out of the fact that she's not the president.

00:25:51.000 And whatever I think of Trump, and how he is behaving lately, and how he is legislating, I am very happy she is not president.

00:25:58.000 She says, I'm sure she did, and I'm sure she hurled a few lamps and such.

00:26:14.000 I'm just amazing.

00:26:14.000 She says, what makes me such a lightning rod for fury?

00:26:17.000 I'm really asking, I'm at a loss. 0.85

00:26:19.000 Well, that you're super corrupt, and that you are super rehearsed, and that you are incredibly partisan, and that you think half the country is filled with terrible people.

00:26:28.000 That, I think, is probably the problem for Hillary Clinton. 1.00

00:26:31.000 And when she's speaking with Democrats, she basically admits as much.

00:26:34.000 So she was on the Pod Save America podcast earlier today, and here is what she said.

00:26:40.000 She was asked about Putin and the association with Trump.

00:26:44.000 Apparently in the book she says, quote, Trump doesn't just like Putin, he wants to be like Putin, put down dissenters, repress minorities.

00:26:50.000 He dreams of Moscow on the Potomac.

00:26:53.000 She writes this in her book, Moscow on the Potomac.

00:26:55.000 That's what Trump is dreaming of, which is a wild exaggeration. 0.96

00:26:59.000 Everyone keeps saying Trump is a fascist.

00:27:00.000 Trump hasn't gotten anything done or imprisoned anyone.

00:27:03.000 Legitimately, the biggest problem with Trump right now is that nothing is happening.

00:27:07.000 And then he's caving to Democrats.

00:27:08.000 So it's hard to claim that he's a fascist when at the same time he's cutting deals with Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

00:27:13.000 But here's what Clinton said.

00:27:14.000 She said,

00:27:18.000 I wrote this book to try and come to grips with what happened, but also to sound the alarm about what I think could still and may well happen.

00:27:24.000 I think Trump, left to his own devices, unchecked, would become even more authoritarian than he has tried to be.

00:27:29.000 Also, remember the right-wing, aided and funded by Mercer's, Koch Brothers, etc., is very serious about calling a constitutional convention.

00:27:35.000 Okay, the Koch Brothers, by the way, are libertarians.

00:27:37.000 They need 34 states.

00:27:39.000 Last I checked, they were at 28 or 29.

00:27:40.000 This would be the convention of states pushed by people like Mark Levin to check the power of the federal government, but she doesn't understand that the convention of states has nothing to do with Trump.

00:27:49.000 The Convention of States was moving long before Trump.

00:27:51.000 There are a lot of people who support a Convention of States, like me, who are not advocates for the president, particularly when he does things that are wrong.

00:27:59.000 She says, part of their gerrymandering is to control state legislatures, elect Republican governors, call a constitutional convention.

00:28:05.000 If you get really deep into what they are advocating, limits on the First Amendment, no limits on the Second Amendment, limits on criminal justice.

00:28:10.000 I mean, there's a very insidious right-wing agenda.

00:28:13.000 Limits on the First Amendment?

00:28:14.000 Who's talking about limiting the First Amendment?

00:28:16.000 It's the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, who has talked about things like hate crimes laws, hate speech laws. 1.00

00:28:22.000 Things like, let's make sure that if you are in LLC, you can't spend money on politics.

00:28:26.000 She says, when I say that he doesn't just like Putin, he wants to be like Putin, I'm not saying he's going to start killing journalists, but I am saying he likes the idea of unaccountable, unchecked power.

00:28:34.000 Okay, Hillary Clinton saying this?

00:28:36.000 People who like the idea of unaccountable, unchecked power?

00:28:39.000 Yeah, Hillary, we all know why you lost. 0.83

00:28:42.000 And this, again, is why everyone thinks that 2020 is going to be a referendum on Trump.

00:28:47.000 We'll find out.

00:28:48.000 It depends on who they nominate.

00:28:50.000 Everyone talks about Trump being low in the opinion polls.

00:28:52.000 Bottom line is, it really, really depends on who the Democrats nominate.

00:28:55.000 And if they think that they can run the same campaign they ran in 2016 and just add single-payer healthcare, they are desperately mistaken.

00:29:02.000 Democrats have a serious problem in 2020.

00:29:03.000 They don't want to admit it.

00:29:05.000 They have a serious problem.

00:29:06.000 They're still using Obama's coalition and Hillary's strategy, and they're combining it with Bernie's pie-in-the-sky economics.

00:29:13.000 And they have to, because in the primaries, if you say you're not for single-payer, then the Democratic primary vote is too far to the left, and they'll throw you out.

00:29:21.000 But when you get into a general, try to tell people that healthcare is going to be completely taken away from them and see how that goes.

00:29:26.000 It's the only way, I mean, honestly, Democrats are so bad at this.

00:29:29.000 All they truly have to do right now on healthcare is just shut up, watch it collapse, and blame Trump. 0.58

00:29:34.000 That's really all they have to do.

00:29:36.000 And instead, what they're doing is they're going out there with a single-payer plan that allows them to look like the ones who want to change healthcare.

00:29:41.000 The rule about healthcare is whoever changes it gets punished politically.

00:29:44.000 This is why Republicans didn't end up changing it.

00:29:47.000 Democrats are trying to change it again, but towards single-payer, which demonstrates, by the way, that they were liars all along. 0.89

00:29:53.000 Democrats are really terrible at this. 0.91

00:29:55.000 Thank God. 0.62

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00:31:37.000 Alrighty, so I want to do some things that I like and some things that I hate now.

00:31:41.000 And this will be very culture-oriented, things I like and things I hate.

00:31:44.000 So, things I like.

00:31:46.000 I have been watching lots of children's movies lately because I have a three-and-a-half-year-old.

00:31:50.000 And two of the movies that she's been watching lately, one is Bambi and the other is Pinocchio.

00:31:56.000 So, Pinocchio is the best Disney movie.

00:31:58.000 I actually don't think it's particularly close.

00:32:00.000 I think the early Disney movies are actually much better than the later Disney movies.

00:32:04.000 The animation is actually better.

00:32:05.000 Leave aside Pixar, but the animation is beautiful.

00:32:07.000 It's really, because they did it frame by frame, they used some really cool techniques where they would actually paint a piece of glass for the background, then they'd paint a second piece of glass for perspective, and then they'd shoot through the glass.

00:32:18.000 In order to get that background.

00:32:19.000 So they'll have these moving long tracking shots in Bambi. 0.66

00:32:21.000 Where they have three layers of forest.

00:32:23.000 And they're shooting through three pieces of glass.

00:32:25.000 In order to generate that.

00:32:26.000 It's really a neat technique.

00:32:29.000 And the animation is beautiful.

00:32:30.000 The music is really great.

00:32:31.000 And there's something else which is that these movies are really morally sophisticated.

00:32:35.000 I mean, these movies have a lot more darkness to them than the modern movies.

00:32:38.000 You think Aladdin is dark?

00:32:39.000 Aladdin is nothing.

00:32:40.000 Aladdin is cartoonishly dark.

00:32:42.000 Pinocchio is actually dark.

00:32:43.000 Pinocchio is a very dark film.

00:32:45.000 So here is some of the preview for Pinocchio, the greatest of all Disney films.

00:32:51.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the master showman.

00:32:57.000 That's a meme, Potutro Baldo.

00:32:58.000 And by special permission of the management, is presented to you T-1 and only Pinocchio!

00:33:10.000 I got no strings to hold me down! 0.60

00:33:16.000 When Walt Disney gave you his first full-length feature, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs became a nation's friend.

00:33:24.000 You made Dopey the star of his day, and Hi-Ho your favorite song.

00:33:29.000 Now Walt Disney brings you his first and only full-length feature since Snow White.

00:33:39.000 Which one of this grand new group of characters will be your favorite?

00:33:43.000 Will it be mischievous little Pinocchio himself?

00:33:45.000 Will it be Geppetto, the kindly old woodcarver?

00:33:49.000 Will it be fluttery, frivolous Cleo the goldfish?

00:33:53.000 Or will it be Roly-Poly Figaro?

00:33:57.000 Might be those wily crooks, Jay Worthington Foulfellow, and Raggle Taggle Gideon. 0.70

00:34:05.000 Or perhaps Stromboli, the gypsy-like puppet master. 1.00

00:34:07.000 Okay, so the movie is actually, so, one of the things I love about Pinocchio is the entire movie is about why growing up requires growing a conscience.

00:34:15.000 That's what it's about, right?

00:34:16.000 The entire film is about becoming a better person.

00:34:18.000 Unlike most of the new Disney films, which are all about self-fulfillment,

00:34:21.000 It's all about self-fulfillment and love.

00:34:23.000 Pinocchio's not about any of those things.

00:34:25.000 It's about being worthy of love, right?

00:34:27.000 Pinocchio's actually about the idea that you are worthy of being a real boy only when you grow a moral soul, right?

00:34:33.000 Only when you grow a moral conscience.

00:34:36.000 I always like to contrast the lyrics from Frozen with the lyrics from Pinocchio.

00:34:40.000 The lyrics in Pinocchio, it says, Jiminy Cricket says this, right?

00:34:44.000 He's pointed Pinocchio's conscience, and Jiminy Cricket says, always let your conscience be your guide.

00:34:50.000 Right, give a little whistle and always let your conscience be your guide.

00:34:53.000 Walk the straight and narrow path, and if you start to slide, give a little whistle.

00:34:56.000 Right, and call your conscience.

00:34:58.000 That's the idea.

00:34:58.000 Okay, it's a pretty traditional moral message that's being put forward in Pinocchio.

00:35:03.000 And then you get Frozen, and Frozen literally says, in the middle of, um, of... What's the name of the big number, Mathis, in Frozen?

00:35:11.000 We're good to go.

00:35:31.000 That's what's great, right?

00:35:32.000 Little Mermaid, which I think is one of the worst Disney films.

00:35:35.000 I mean, the music's great, but I think it's one of the worst Disney films, and that's because the morality of Little Mermaid is basically, she disobeys her father, she's a moron for an hour and a half, and then finally she gets what she wants after making her father into a small monster because she sold a contract to a witch.

00:35:48.000 Right, and then she suddenly gets what she wants anyway.

00:35:50.000 She never learns a lesson. 1.00

00:35:52.000 There's no point in which she goes, Oh, I guess that was a really stupid move. 0.99

00:35:55.000 Maybe I should have listened to Dad. 0.96

00:35:56.000 There's no point at which she learns anything in the course of Little Mermaid.

00:36:00.000 Right, Aladdin is a great movie, but it has no moral message.

00:36:02.000 And this has become the thing in Disney films.

00:36:05.000 We wouldn't want to lecture people on morality.

00:36:07.000 In Finding Nemo, it's the father who has to learn something, not the kid.

00:36:10.000 Right, it's always the adult is now learning something in all the new Disney films.

00:36:13.000 Okay, that's because morality in America has changed, and Disney's a great reflection of that.

00:36:17.000 The original Disney films were deeply moral.

00:36:19.000 You watch Pinocchio, you watch Bambi. 1.00

00:36:21.000 Bambi is all about the idea that as you grow up, you have to start taking responsibility for others.

00:36:25.000 That life is a bunch of challenges, and if you overcome them, you become a stronger person.

00:36:29.000 That's what Bambi is about. 0.96

00:36:30.000 Pinocchio is super dark.

00:36:32.000 And it demonstrates how we raise our children differently than we used to 70 years ago.

00:36:36.000 Like, in a real way.

00:36:37.000 Okay, Pinocchio has, in the middle of it, Pinocchio being kidnapped.

00:36:41.000 Okay, children being turned into donkeys.

00:36:44.000 Him being swallowed by a whale, right?

00:36:46.000 You think he's drowned, okay?

00:36:48.000 All of those things happen.

00:36:49.000 In Bambi, you have the most shocking moment in film history, right?

00:36:52.000 His mother gets shot off-screen, right?

00:36:54.000 All of this happens in children's films, okay?

00:36:56.000 These things would be rated R now, right?

00:36:58.000 The children's films now are really innocent.

00:37:00.000 And that's because, you know, life and death were a part of normal life for children a lot more in 1942 than they were than they are today.

00:37:07.000 But I think that that actually made kids have more of a moral sense, this idea that life was meaningful because there was such a thing as death, there was such a thing as morality.

00:37:15.000 The morality of Pinocchio is a lot better than the morality of today's films.

00:37:18.000 Also, as I say, it's a beautiful movie to watch.

00:37:20.000 I mean, one of the opening shots

00:37:22.000 There are a couple of shots in it that are just incredible.

00:37:24.000 There's one tracking shot where they go all the way through the town in Pinocchio.

00:37:27.000 That's just an amazing shot.

00:37:29.000 Again, all of this was drawn frame by frame in that time.

00:37:32.000 So every single frame was being drawn individually, hand-drawn.

00:37:35.000 Which is, I mean, that's, it's an amazing, it's basically like having a flip book for an hour and a half.

00:37:39.000 Pretty incredible.

00:37:40.000 Okay, so other things that I like.

00:37:42.000 So I have to give it to Jim Carrey.

00:37:43.000 I love this so much.

00:37:44.000 Jim Carrey...

00:37:46.000 ...was at New York Fashion Week.

00:37:47.000 As you might imagine, I'm not a fan of New York Fashion Week, and I'm going to talk a little bit more about that in just a second.

00:37:52.000 But, Jim Carrey for some reason shows up at New York Fashion Week, and there's some woman who apparently couldn't afford a complete dress, so she's sort of dressed in parts of a dress, and she's interviewing Jim Carrey.

00:38:04.000 And Jim Carrey gives one of the single greatest interviews I have ever seen in any venue.

00:38:08.000 It's spectacular.

00:38:09.000 Here we go.

00:38:10.000 Yes.

00:38:11.000 What?

00:38:12.000 I've covered a lot of fashion weeks.

00:38:13.000 This is the first time I've run into Jim Carrey.

00:38:16.000 Wait!

00:38:17.000 Tell me!

00:38:18.000 Is it true you're wandering the streets?

00:38:19.000 You need a date to the party?

00:38:20.000 What's up?

00:38:21.000 No, no, no.

00:38:21.000 I'm doing just fine.

00:38:23.000 I just, you know, there's no meaning to any of this.

00:38:26.000 So I wanted to find the most meaningless thing that I could come to and join.

00:38:32.000 And here I am.

00:38:36.000 I mean, you've got to admit, it's completely meaningless.

00:38:38.000 Well, they say they're celebrating icons inside.

00:38:40.000 Celebrating icons.

00:38:41.000 Boy, that is just the absolute lowest aiming, you know, possibility that we could come up with.

00:38:49.000 It's like icons.

00:38:50.000 What do you, do you believe in icons?

00:38:52.000 I don't believe in personalities.

00:38:54.000 I don't believe that you exist, but there is a wonderful fragrance in the air.

00:38:59.000 You don't believe certain icons have the power to make change, to think differently, to be bold, to inspire others?

00:39:05.000 Artistry?

00:39:05.000 You're one of them!

00:39:07.000 On the good foot!

00:39:08.000 Ha! 0.89

00:39:11.000 You shut her down now. 0.99

00:39:14.000 Yeah, no, I don't believe in icons.

00:39:17.000 I don't believe in personalities.

00:39:19.000 I believe that peace lies beyond personality, beyond invention and disguise, beyond the red S that you wear on your chest that makes bullets bounce off.

00:39:30.000 I believe that it's deeper than that.

00:39:31.000 I believe we're a field of energy dancing for itself.

00:39:38.000 I don't care.

00:39:38.000 But Jim, you got really dressed up for the occasion.

00:39:41.000 You look good.

00:39:41.000 Was that an accident?

00:39:43.000 I didn't get dressed up.

00:39:44.000 Who did?

00:39:45.000 There is no me.

00:39:46.000 There's no you?

00:39:47.000 No.

00:39:47.000 We're not here.

00:39:48.000 This is a dream?

00:39:48.000 There's just things happening.

00:39:51.000 And there are clusters of tetrahedrons moving around together.

00:39:54.000 Okay, it's pretty spectacular.

00:39:55.000 Okay, first of all, I like that he goes full David Hume by the end of this.

00:39:58.000 There's no relationship between cause and effect.

00:40:00.000 Are you sure you really exist?

00:40:01.000 Can science really determine whether you are a person?

00:40:04.000 But the best part of this is when he says, this is totally meaningless and I'm here because it's meaningless.

00:40:08.000 Pretty spectacular.

00:40:09.000 So well done, Jim Carrey.

00:40:10.000 Dude's a hero.

00:40:11.000 Not all heroes wear capes.

00:40:13.000 Pretty spectacular.

00:40:14.000 Okay, other things that I like.

00:40:15.000 So this was really funny.

00:40:17.000 Last night,

00:40:18.000 During Monday Night Football, there is a guy, a sideline reporter, who I guess is new to the business, and he gives what is certainly the single best sideline report in the history of Monday Night Football.

00:40:30.000 Sergio Dipp, the aptly named Sergio Dipp, here's what he had to say on the sideline at Monday Night Football.

00:40:36.000 It's a pleasure to be with you guys here on the field, from up close, just watching Coach Vance Joseph.

00:40:44.000 From here, you watch him now on the screen.

00:40:47.000 This diversity in his background is helping him a lot tonight.

00:40:51.000 Quarterback at Colorado, defensive back in the NFL, and here he is, having the time of his life!

00:41:02.000 He points to that guy.

00:41:04.000 Please, put him in the booth.

00:41:05.000 I mean, that guy's amazing.

00:41:07.000 Here he is, having the time of his life.

00:41:09.000 I don't know what I'm talking about, but words are coming out of my mouth, and they just won't stop.

00:41:14.000 Sergio Dipp, greatest announcer I have ever seen, makes Howard Cosell look like nothing, just spectacular.

00:41:19.000 Okay, and other sports things that I like. 0.97

00:41:20.000 A lot of things I like today, because people just decided to go full-on stupid yesterday, and you got to enjoy it, or you got to cry. 0.92

00:41:26.000 Okay, this actually was pretty great. 0.92

00:41:27.000 So Sloane Stevens is the name of the woman who won the U.S. 0.97

00:41:32.000 Open.

00:41:33.000 And this is a pretty great exchange.

00:41:34.000 It demonstrates the power of capitalism, even when we don't think about it.

00:41:37.000 So here she is.

00:41:38.000 She's asked, you know, winning the U.S. 0.99

00:41:40.000 Open, you always ask dumb questions. 0.99

00:41:41.000 It drives my personal trainer nuts. 0.98

00:41:43.000 Whenever we're watching sports together and we see these press conferences, he gets so angry at the journalists because they ask questions like, how did it feel to give up that home run?

00:41:49.000 And it's like, how do you think it felt?

00:41:51.000 I just gave up a home run.

00:41:52.000 It felt great.

00:41:53.000 I was totally for it.

00:41:54.000 So somebody asks Sloane Stevens, 0.99

00:41:57.000 Does this make you want to win more majors?

00:41:59.000 And her answer is spectacular.

00:42:01.000 I know this is kind of fresh, but having done this once, does it give you a hunger to win another slam, to do this again, feel this feeling again?

00:42:09.000 Of course, girl.

00:42:09.000 Did you see that check that that lady handed me?

00:42:14.000 Like, yes.

00:42:18.000 Man, if that doesn't make you want to play tennis, I don't know what will.

00:42:23.000 Man!

00:42:25.000 So, yes, definitely.

00:42:29.000 Again, capitalism operating even when you think it isn't, so pretty awesome.

00:42:33.000 I do love that, that's pretty great.

00:42:34.000 Okay, time for, you know what?

00:42:37.000 You know, even one more thing I like, because I can't say I fully like this story, but it is funny, okay?

00:42:43.000 I'm not for violence, okay?

00:42:44.000 Violence is not called for.

00:42:46.000 If you have a problem, you should call the police, but this is kind of funny, okay?

00:42:48.000 There's a bath musician dubbed Piano Man.

00:42:50.000 He has spoken out after receiving backlash on social media and reportedly being punched in the head.

00:42:54.000 Luke Howard began playing his piano on College Green in Bristol on Saturday, September 9th, saying it was his last throw of the dice to win back his former girlfriend.

00:43:01.000 But after being branded a creep online and realizing his plan had failed...

00:43:05.000 The 34-year-old stopped playing.

00:43:07.000 So this 34-year-old guy who couldn't, you know, make a decision about his girlfriend and she broke up with him, he took a piano outside her apartment and just started playing the piano like all through the night.

00:43:16.000 And then at 4 a.m.

00:43:17.000 people got pissed and he was punched in the head.

00:43:20.000 According to the Bristol Post, Luke said he had been punched in the head at around 4 a.m.

00:43:23.000 but added the reason he stopped was he realized he had spectacularly failed in his original aim.

00:43:27.000 The 34-year-old musician rejected suggestions it was a PR stunt and issued an apology to those offended by his plan.

00:43:32.000 So, okay, so a couple of things that I hate about this.

00:43:35.000 Number one, you know, everybody's saying, oh, he's stalking her, he's stalking her.

00:43:38.000 First of all, she thinks he's stalking, she can call the cops.

00:43:40.000 Okay, second of all, please, noise pollution, people.

00:43:43.000 It drives me nuts when I'm driving around.

00:43:44.000 I have a bad habit, and that is when I'm driving around and somebody next to me has their rap pumped up really loud and it's bothering me in my own car, I roll down my windows and I put on the fourth movement of Beethoven's Ninth and I crank it all the way up.

00:43:56.000 Because that's just the kind of person I am. 0.97

00:43:57.000 A complete douchebag. 0.98

00:43:58.000 So, that's it. 1.00

00:44:00.000 If you're gonna pollute the noise at 4am, I'm not gonna say it's okay to punch you in the head. 0.86

00:44:05.000 I am gonna say that somebody should call the cops on you. 0.91

00:44:08.000 And I'm not gonna say that I feel really terrible for you.

00:44:12.000 It's uncivilized, but I don't feel so bad for you.

00:44:14.000 Okay.

00:44:15.000 Time for a couple of things that I hate.

00:44:17.000 I'll do one thing I hate, then I'll do a quick deconstructing of the culture.

00:44:20.000 So, here is the thing that I hate.

00:44:23.000 J.J.

00:44:23.000 Abrams, man.

00:44:25.000 What the F, dude?

00:44:26.000 So he's back.

00:44:27.000 He's now going to be directing Star Wars Episode IX, aka Death Star Part 7.

00:44:33.000 I'm very much looking forward to a new orb that will blow up planets, but we won't call it the Death Star, and we can't call it Starkiller Planet.

00:44:41.000 Instead, we'll have to come- I'm hoping that it's blue, and then we can call it the Meth Star. 0.86

00:44:45.000 Yeah, it'll be like the Death Star, but it'll be the Meth Star. 0.93

00:44:48.000 It'll be awesome.

00:44:49.000 Also, J.J.

00:44:50.000 Abrams is one of the most overrated directors of my lifetime.

00:44:52.000 The idea that he's a great director is beyond me.

00:44:55.000 The only thing, I think he's a better producer, actually, than he is a director.

00:44:57.000 I think he's produced some pretty good films.

00:44:59.000 Did he direct 10 Cloverfield Lane?

00:45:02.000 He produced it, right.

00:45:03.000 So 10 Cloverfield Lane is a good movie because he produced it, not because he directed it.

00:45:06.000 Lost, he directed the first episode and then he produced it.

00:45:09.000 The first few seasons of Lost are terrific.

00:45:10.000 He produced, he did not direct.

00:45:12.000 As a director, he is highly derivative.

00:45:14.000 Everything that he does is a ripoff of something else.

00:45:17.000 Also, he ruined my childhood, okay?

00:45:20.000 Episode 7 of Star Wars is The Force Awakens.

00:45:23.000 It's one of those movies when you first watch it, you're like, alright, okay.

00:45:27.000 And then you think about it, and then you think about it, and then you think about it some more.

00:45:31.000 And then by the time you're done thinking about it, you're ready to go burn down J.J.

00:45:33.000 Abrams' house because he wrecked my childhood.

00:45:36.000 You understand that when Return of the Jedi ends, that Luke has destroyed the Emperor?

00:45:41.000 You understand that it makes no sense for the dark side of the Force to have crept up again and be ruling the universe?

00:45:46.000 Okay, you have to explain what happened with the Rebellion and how they ruled badly if you're going to explain why there's this new Force in the world.

00:45:52.000 Also, why is it, like, why did you turn Luke and Leia, who are one of the best couples in screen history, into a squabbling divorce couple?

00:46:01.000 Han and Leia, sorry.

00:46:02.000 Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah.

00:46:03.000 Luke and Leia, that'll be his great revelation in Star Wars Episode IX.

00:46:06.000 He'll wreck the rest of my childhood, not by killing Luke.

00:46:09.000 Or after killing Han. 0.99

00:46:10.000 After killing Han in the most pathetic possible way. 1.00

00:46:12.000 He won't just do that. 0.98

00:46:13.000 He'll wreck my childhood by announcing that Kylo Ren is actually Luke and Leia's son.

00:46:16.000 He'll completely, he'll go full Game of Thrones on me. 0.98

00:46:19.000 But by turning Han into a sad old man who gets murdered by his pathetic son, you know that's going bad. 0.66

00:46:25.000 First of all, this beat that people use in movies now that drives me absolutely up a wall is when somebody will say, there's somebody totally evil, and they'll say, go stop him. 0.97

00:46:33.000 Go stop him. 1.00

00:46:35.000 No, don't go stop him, you stupid idiot! 1.00

00:46:37.000 You're not going to be able to stop him! 1.00

00:46:38.000 Everyone knows, like... Okay, so, Force Awakens, not good.

00:46:42.000 Then they're going to do Episode 8, which the previews do not look good.

00:46:45.000 And then there's Episode 9, which is going to be J.J.

00:46:48.000 Abrams writing and directing it.

00:46:49.000 And, again, he's going to actually create a new creature, a small Jedi called Yoga. 0.90

00:46:55.000 Who, and he will also have, it won't be C-3PO anymore, it'll be C-3GO.

00:47:01.000 Everything that he does will be derivative in some possible way.

00:47:05.000 I mean, even BB-8, everyone's like, ooh, BB-8!

00:47:07.000 Okay, it's just R2-D2 with a rounded bottom.

00:47:09.000 Okay, that's legitimately what BB-8 is.

00:47:12.000 Ah, J.J.

00:47:12.000 Abrams.

00:47:13.000 Dammit, J.J. 1.00

00:47:13.000 Abrams! 1.00

00:47:14.000 Go away.

00:47:15.000 Ah, so overrated.

00:47:16.000 Jeremy Boring, God King of the Daily Wire, my business partner, he's been maintaining for years.

00:47:21.000 I remember, people can vouch for this, there was an argument we had where he made the claim that J.J.

00:47:26.000 Abrams was a better director than Christopher Nolan.

00:47:29.000 To which I say, FIE!

00:47:30.000 FIE on you, sir! 0.98

00:47:32.000 Sheer nonsense. 0.80

00:47:33.000 Okay, time to deconstruct the culture a little bit.

00:47:35.000 Today, I want to talk about Fashion Week.

00:47:38.000 So everyone gets very up for Fashion Week.

00:47:40.000 My wife used to watch Project Runway and they always talked about New York Fashion Week.

00:47:43.000 Yeah, Fashion Week.

00:47:44.000 It's the best.

00:47:45.000 Fashion Week.

00:47:46.000 Okay, Fashion Week is where a bunch of people come up with crappy outfits no one will ever wear in order to get shock value. 0.98

00:47:51.000 So, the latest at New York Fashion Week is some idiot designer has decided that they have to do something sophisticated. 0.73

00:47:57.000 So what they really need to do, what's deeply important, is to do a line based on the work of Denis Diderot, the French philosopher. 0.97

00:48:06.000 Okay?

00:48:07.000 The guy who died in 1784.

00:48:08.000 How would they pay tribute to... I'm gonna call him Denis because I'm American, but I guess it's pronounced Denis.

00:48:14.000 Denis Diderot.

00:48:15.000 Okay? 0.99

00:48:16.000 Their tribute to Denis Diderot was that they were going to create dresses covered in vaginas. 1.00

00:48:21.000 Like, literally. 0.99

00:48:22.000 Dresses covered in labia. 0.87

00:48:25.000 This was their idea of fashion. 0.53

00:48:26.000 Now, I have a question.

00:48:28.000 Who is going to wear this?

00:48:30.000 Is there anyone, like, who's gonna buy it?

00:48:32.000 Is it gonna be like Lena Dunham? 0.99

00:48:33.000 Lena Dunham's gonna buy this and just horrify the rest of us by wearing around the giant vagina dress? 1.00

00:48:37.000 I mean, I guess these things would be a bestseller at the Women's March. 0.64

00:48:40.000 They're gonna, like, if you can't tell where the, uh, where the labia are on this particular thing, uh, it's, uh, for some reason they're, they're clinically on her arms, which is a weird place for, for those to be.

00:48:49.000 Also, it's always weird to me how they paint the eyes.

00:48:52.000 Uh, I'm not sure what happened.

00:48:53.000 It looks like they ran face first into one of my daughter's finger paintings. 0.79

00:48:56.000 Uh, here, the, the, the fake vaginal opening is around her chest region. 1.00

00:49:02.000 Uh, it's, it's, what? 0.58

00:49:05.000 So, it used to be.

00:49:06.000 I know that it used to be.

00:49:09.000 No, when it came to fashion, we actually respected designers who created things that people wanted to wear.

00:49:14.000 Like, look back at the original Dior, okay?

00:49:16.000 He was creating things that women actually looked good in. 0.99

00:49:18.000 Is there any guy in the world who looks at this and is like, God, she is so hot. 1.00

00:49:22.000 How do you make a beautiful model look like garbage? 1.00

00:49:24.000 That's basically what New York Fashion Week is. 0.89

00:49:26.000 They've decided that it's this tendency in modern art that I really hate.

00:49:29.000 Stephen Sondheim does it in theater, and I really like early Sondheim.

00:49:33.000 There's this idea that the more abstruse you get, the less people can understand what you're doing, the deeper you are.

00:49:39.000 The more you're speaking to something that is just beyond what the normie can understand, the normal person can understand. 1.00

00:49:45.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

00:49:46.000 I have a general rule. 1.00

00:49:48.000 I'm a relatively smart fellow. 1.00

00:49:49.000 If I'm reading a book, and 15 pages in I have no idea what you're saying, I'm gonna bet you that it's probably because you're a crappy writer, not because I'm a moron.

00:49:56.000 Okay, I figure that if I went to UCLA and Harvard Law School and graduated from high school at 16 and have an IQ above 150 I'm figuring that if that's the case then if I'm reading your book, and I don't understand it There aren't that many people who can understand it Okay, if I look at this fashion, and I don't understand what in the world you're doing I'm gonna go with no one understands what in the world you're doing and this is all just for shock value Because again, I don't know like 0.54

00:50:22.000 File this one under how to make heterosexual men not attracted to depictions of pornographic images.

00:50:28.000 I mean, just amazing.

00:50:32.000 Please, people, there's nothing wrong with quote-unquote pandering to the common taste, particularly when there are such things as an objective standard of beauty.

00:50:39.000 I understand art isn't really art.

00:50:41.000 Art is just whatever you feel it is.

00:50:42.000 Art isn't that.

00:50:43.000 Okay, there are objective standards of beauty.

00:50:44.000 These don't meet it. 1.00

00:50:45.000 It's garbage. 0.98

00:50:46.000 Okay, let's go back to objective standards of beauty. 0.97

00:50:48.000 Not everything is equally beautiful and none of this meets the standard.

00:50:50.000 Okay, we'll be back here tomorrow and hopefully President Trump will have changed his mind on the wall.

00:50:57.000 And I'm sure I'm gonna try and go get a copy of Hillary's book today and I'll analyze it for you tomorrow, hopefully.

00:51:02.000 But we'll have much more in any case.

00:51:03.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.

00:51:04.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.

The Ben Shapiro Show - September 12, 2017

Will Trump’s Turn To The Center Last? | Ep. 381

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