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00:00:00.000 An American company announces the possibility of millions of doses of vaccine by October.

00:00:05.000 Stupid controversies break out when President Trump visits Michigan.

00:00:07.000 And Joe Biden tells black voters that they aren't actually black unless they vote for Joe Biden.

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00:02:27.000 Okay, so we're going to get to the big controversy of the day in just a moment.

00:02:30.000 That controversy of the day being Joe Biden deciding that basically he's just going to let it all hang out.

00:02:35.000 He's now going to say that you're not a black American unless you vote for Joe Biden, which is a pretty incredible pitch.

00:02:39.000 Only a Democrat, theoretically, could get away with that.

00:02:42.000 But first, let's talk about a couple of things that actually really matter.

00:02:45.000 So right now, the polls are showing some pretty significant movement in the direction of reopening.

00:02:49.000 So just a couple of weeks ago, the overwhelming majority of the American public was not in favor of reopening.

00:02:54.000 And that was largely due to media coverage of COVID-19, the suggestion that reopening would inevitably lead to extraordinary levels of death and doom that simply would not occur if we just continued to lock down, presumably, until forever.

00:03:06.000 And the problem was, of course, that that conflicted with the original flatten the curve message, which was, we are going to lock you down until we have made it so that the system will not be overwhelmed, and then we'll let you out again.

00:03:16.000 Well, right now, nearly 46% of Americans, according to a new poll by Politico and the Harvard T.H.

00:03:22.000 Chan School of Public Health, Nearly half of Americans believe their state's governor should allow non-essential businesses to be open in their state in the next month to reduce financial difficulties for businesses and people.

00:03:33.000 About half think non-essential businesses in their state, 51%, should be closed until the spread of COVID-19 has been contained.

00:03:40.000 But again, that is very vague because who the hell knows what that means?

00:03:43.000 The spread of COVID-19 has been contained.

00:03:47.000 I mean, by the way, those two things are not in conflict.

00:03:50.000 Containment is a pretty malleable term right there.

00:03:53.000 61% of Republicans believe their state's governors should allow non-essential businesses to be open.

00:03:57.000 More than two-thirds of Democrats, 69%, think such businesses should be closed until the spread of the virus is contained.

00:04:03.000 6 in 10 owners and managers of small or medium-sized businesses, 60%.

00:04:07.000 favor non-essential businesses being open in their state.

00:04:09.000 In addition, of those whose households have experienced forms of employment loss since the start of COVID-19 outbreak, 52% favor businesses being open in the next month.

00:04:17.000 In contrast, a majority of those whose households have not experienced employment loss favor non-essential businesses remaining closed.

00:04:22.000 So in other words, the people who want to reopen are people who own businesses and people who work at businesses that are closed right now.

00:04:27.000 Those are the numbers.

00:04:28.000 So it is not a bunch of elites sitting there and being like, we just want people who are poorer to die.

00:04:33.000 That is not a thing.

00:04:34.000 Instead, what is happening is pretty obviously something different, which is if you're unable to work, if you've lost your job, you would like to get back to work.

00:04:41.000 And the opinions are changing because what we have seen is that some states are reopening and they are not experiencing wild upticks in the number of deaths or infections in their states.

00:04:50.000 In fact, one of the things that we have seen is across the country a flattening when it comes to the number of positive tests compared to the number of tests being taken.

00:04:58.000 The percentage of positive tests is actually continuing to go down.

00:05:02.000 The daily deaths, by the way, are also continuing to go down in the United States.

00:05:08.000 We have actually declined rather markedly since we were in the middle of April.

00:05:12.000 So that is good news.

00:05:13.000 By the way, hospital resource use has been in significant decline and never hit the high numbers.

00:05:18.000 By the way, it is also worth noting that there is now a lot of retrospective study of the Imperial College model.

00:05:24.000 And it turns out that the data were simply a mess, that the coding was an absolute mess.

00:05:29.000 And that was used as the basis for locking down entire countries, essentially.

00:05:33.000 The UK Telegraph reported just a few weeks ago, well, actually a few days ago, that COVID-19 modeling that sent Britain into lockdown, shutting the economy and leaving millions unemployed, has been slammed by a series of experts.

00:05:43.000 Professor Neil Ferguson's computer coding was derided as, quote, totally unreliable by leading figures, who warned it was something you wouldn't stake your life on.

00:05:51.000 The model, credited with forcing the government to make a U-turn and introduce a nationwide lockdown, is, quote, a buggy mess that looks more like a bowl of angel hair pasta than a finely tuned piece of programming, said David Richards, co-founder of British data technology company WANdisco.

00:06:04.000 He said, in our commercial reality, we would fire anyone for developing code like this, and any business that relied on it to produce software for sale would likely go bust.

00:06:11.000 So that was the model that people were using to shut down entire countries.

00:06:15.000 Now that doesn't mean that there isn't going to be an uptick in cases, maybe an uptick in deaths.

00:06:15.000 So well done everybody.

00:06:20.000 It also doesn't mean that the summer is necessarily going to kill this off.

00:06:22.000 What we have seen is that it is unclear whether this is heat dependent, right?

00:06:26.000 India is seeing a fairly large uptick in cases.

00:06:28.000 Brazil obviously is a warm place and they've seen tremendous levels of caseload and death.

00:06:34.000 What is clear is that as people are going out, it's not spreading as fast as people thought it would.

00:06:38.000 And a large part of that is because when you are out and about and you're not in enclosed spaces, you're not in enclosed spaces.

00:06:43.000 And that's really how this thing passes.

00:06:44.000 You're right up next to somebody for 10, 15 minutes.

00:06:47.000 You're talking with them.

00:06:48.000 There's not a lot of air circulation.

00:06:49.000 If you're outside, the chances of you getting this are really, really low.

00:06:52.000 In fact, there was that early study from China that showed that of a thousand cases in China, like two had come from people talking outside and they were in really close proximity to one another.

00:07:01.000 So all of that is good news.

00:07:03.000 Can we be cautiously optimistic?

00:07:04.000 Are we allowed to do that?

00:07:05.000 Or are we supposed to be just downbeat all the time?

00:07:07.000 If you watch the media, obviously, as we discussed yesterday, they're urging you to be downbeat nearly all the time.

00:07:12.000 But that is not a good idea.

00:07:14.000 I mean, we should be upbeat when the evidence warrants being upbeat.

00:07:17.000 And the evidence is warranting us being at least cautiously optimistic so long as we continue to engage in the responsible activities of social distancing, I'm not one of the people who says you should run out willy-nilly in the streets and not wear a mask if you're indoors with other people and make them feel uncomfortable, mostly, because that is what happens, or if you're around people who are vulnerable.

00:07:38.000 However, I'm also not a person who's going to say you can't associate with other people.

00:07:41.000 My wife and I, the other day, we went over to a couple's house that we know.

00:07:44.000 We sat in their backyard.

00:07:44.000 We socially distanced from them.

00:07:45.000 It was delightful.

00:07:47.000 You can actually see other human beings.

00:07:48.000 It's alright.

00:07:49.000 You can do it.

00:07:50.000 Meanwhile, in other good news, the New York Times is reporting that the U.S.

00:07:53.000 says it will provide up to $1.2 billion to a drug company to develop a vaccine from an Oxford lab.

00:07:59.000 The U.S.

00:08:00.000 Department of Health and Human Services said on Thursday it would provide up to $1.2 billion to the drug company AstraZeneca.

00:08:05.000 to develop a potential coronavirus vaccine from a laboratory at Oxford.

00:08:08.000 The deal with AstraZeneca is the fourth vaccine research agreement the department has disclosed, by far the largest.

00:08:13.000 The money will pay for a clinical trial of the potential vaccine in the United States this summer with about 30,000 volunteers.

00:08:19.000 We're going to have some information really, really fast on whether this thing works.

00:08:22.000 The HHS statement said the agency and AstraZeneca are, quote, collaborating to make available at least 300 million doses and projected the first doses could be available as early as October, which would be extraordinary.

00:08:34.000 Extraordinary.

00:08:35.000 I mean, from the time of the development of vaccine to distribution of the vaccine inside of six months, that'd be absolutely incredible.

00:08:41.000 It would be a miracle of science.

00:08:42.000 It really would be.

00:08:44.000 And being able to reopen the economy by October because vaccinations are available will be an unbelievable thing.

00:08:48.000 Most public health experts and scientists think a viable vaccine would probably not be available until sometime next year at the earliest.

00:08:55.000 But AstraZeneca is saying, no, we're actually moving toward millions of doses by October.

00:09:00.000 Assuming that the vaccine shows safety and to a certain extent efficacy, we will start large clinical trials in the United States, as well as in other parts of the world over the summer period in June, July.

00:09:14.000 Equally, as we speak, we're beefing up our manufacturing capabilities and we are confident that we will be able to deliver 100 million doses in October.

00:09:25.000 Assuming of course that the vaccine is working.

00:09:29.000 Okay, that would be excellent news.

00:09:30.000 All of this would be excellent news.

00:09:31.000 So, it's time for some cautious optimism.

00:09:33.000 This is a very, very good thing.

00:09:35.000 In some bad news, we'll tell you, it's so funny, there are all these people who are out there saying, you're a science denier.

00:09:40.000 Science denier!

00:09:41.000 If you believe that we should end lockdowns and that we should go back in cautious fashion, you're a science denier.

00:09:46.000 You just want to kill people.

00:09:47.000 Wait until I tell you about a poll of Americans on what they will do if President Trump touts a vaccine.

00:09:53.000 Because you want to talk about science denial?

00:09:54.000 I'll tell you about that in just one second.

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00:11:50.000 Okay, so meanwhile, when we talk about science denial, when we talk about people who are undermining the science, there's a new poll from Reuters Ipsos, and it found that 36% of Americans say they will be less likely to take an eventual coronavirus vaccine if President Trump vouches for its safety.

00:12:06.000 So, if Fauci gets up there and says, this thing's safe, and then Trump gets up there and says, it is, it's unbelievably safe, people are like, I'm not taking it anymore.

00:12:14.000 I don't know what to tell you.

00:12:15.000 If you are making your medical decisions based on what President Trump says, either for or against, this is because you are being a dum-dum.

00:12:22.000 You should listen to your doctor.

00:12:23.000 And if your doctor tells you that a vaccine is safe, then you should listen to your doctor.

00:12:28.000 The survey found less than two-thirds of Americans overall said they were very or somewhat interested in a vaccine for COVID-19, which Reuters points out falls well short of the 70% of Americans who would need to be immune through a vaccine or prior infection in order to achieve herd immunity.

00:12:42.000 Nearly one in five Republicans said they have no interest in a vaccine.

00:12:45.000 That's more than twice the proportion of Democrats who said the same because there are a lot of anti-vaccine activists inside the Republican community because they don't like government centralization or because they don't trust scientists.

00:12:55.000 Whatever it is, that's idiotic.

00:12:56.000 Vaccines are useful.

00:12:57.000 Obviously, you want to wait to find out whether the thing is safe.

00:13:00.000 You want to wait to see who attests to the safety of the vaccine.

00:13:02.000 We have had instances in American history, like in the 1970s with Gerald Ford pushing out a vaccine that actually was not perfectly safe.

00:13:08.000 You want to make sure the thing is safe because we are rushing forward with it.

00:13:11.000 And also, you want to calculate whether your chances as a young person are better or worse if you get the vaccine than if you actually get COVID-19.

00:13:18.000 But, in reality, we do need lots and lots of people to take this vaccine.

00:13:21.000 Will I be taking the vaccine?

00:13:22.000 You bet your ass I'll be taking the vaccine.

00:13:24.000 If the thing is safe, of course I'll take the vaccine.

00:13:25.000 I'm a big proponent of vaccinations.

00:13:27.000 But it is hilarious to me that so many Democrats are going to base their opinion of a vaccine on whether President Trump likes it or not.

00:13:34.000 This suggests that you're doing life wrong.

00:13:36.000 Hey, meanwhile, speaking of doing life wrong, the continued conversation over the economy, it continues to be unbelievably stupid.

00:13:43.000 Because many members of the media have this narrative and they just will not let go of it.

00:13:47.000 Paul Krugman, who will just hang on to a narrative like a dog with a bone.

00:13:53.000 It's truly incredible.

00:13:54.000 This is a man who has the capacity for nuanced thinking.

00:13:58.000 I'm just gonna read you the last two titles of his last two columns, Paul Krugman, over at the New York Times.

00:14:02.000 One is, we should help workers, not kill them.

00:14:06.000 I feel like there's a third choice where we help them and also don't kill them.

00:14:10.000 On the one hand, I would love to help workers.

00:14:13.000 On the other hand, I don't want to kill them.

00:14:15.000 So I'm confused by your binary.

00:14:19.000 Were those the two choices?

00:14:20.000 Helping workers and killing them?

00:14:22.000 I feel like there's a third way where we're helping them and also not killing them by letting them go back to work safely and securely.

00:14:29.000 That was title one.

00:14:30.000 Today's nuanced column from Paul Krugman is how many will die for the Dow?

00:14:36.000 Because now he's just suggesting that if you want to go back to work... By the way, again, that poll from Politico shows that 52% of people who have lost a job want to go back to work.

00:14:44.000 And by the way, as the checks start to run out from the federal government, more people are going to want to go back to work.

00:14:48.000 And as the prices start to dive in certain areas and rise in others, people are going to want to go back to work.

00:14:53.000 But now, according to Paul Krugman, if you want people to gradually and safely go back to work, it's because you want to kill people.

00:14:57.000 This narrative, they just will not let go of it.

00:14:59.000 It's incredible.

00:15:00.000 It's incredible.

00:15:01.000 The evidence does not bear out the narrative.

00:15:02.000 It doesn't matter.

00:15:02.000 Paul Krugman is going to hang on to this sucker.

00:15:04.000 He is a terrier in a pant legger.

00:15:06.000 It's unbelievable.

00:15:07.000 He says, Trump has abandoned his original strategy.

00:15:11.000 They won't say this explicitly, and they're throwing up various disingenuous explanations for what they're doing, but their basic position is that thousands of Americans must die for the Dow.

00:15:19.000 Really, why is that my strategy?

00:15:21.000 That thousands of Americans must die for the Dow?

00:15:23.000 Am I telling anybody they have to go back to work?

00:15:25.000 Am I telling everybody that they need to leave their homes?

00:15:27.000 Have I not stated on this program repeatedly that if you have a pre-existing condition, or if you are vulnerable, That is not saying that people should die.

00:15:45.000 That is saying that we all make risk calculations in public policy.

00:15:48.000 Paul Krugman still clings to this notion that you never have to make a risk calculation in public policy.

00:15:52.000 Instead, you can just pay people to stay home forever.

00:15:56.000 He's doing this because he's pushing against the idea that we should pay people's unemployment for more than their salary is worth through the end of the year.

00:16:03.000 He says, don't worry about incurring debt.

00:16:05.000 He says, that's fine.

00:16:07.000 He says, no, this isn't like a real scientific thing.

00:16:09.000 Weird, because all of Europe is also reopening.

00:16:12.000 So is he yelling at the Europeans for wanting to raise the Dow Jones Industrial Average, or is he just a liar?

00:16:17.000 This stuff is so irritating and so unbelievably stupid.

00:16:20.000 And when people say that they are worried about blowing out the spending, that it leads to waste and fraud, listen, we all understand it's an emergency situation.

00:16:29.000 We're all embracing policies that we didn't like five minutes ago.

00:16:31.000 We get it.

00:16:32.000 But to pretend there are no costs and benefits in analyzing risk portfolios and profiles is idiotic.

00:16:38.000 We'll get to all this in just one second.

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00:16:42.000 The media really putting their thumb on the scale naturally, naturally.

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00:17:56.000 So contrast the perspective of Paul Krugman with the perspective of Alex Azar, who is the US Secretary of Health and Human Services.

00:18:02.000 And he points out, the sacrifices Americans have made through social distancing have helped slow down the spread of the virus and save lives.

00:18:08.000 Moving forward, we need to confront the misconception that going back to normal life just means balancing the health risks of reopening against the economic costs of aggressive social distancing.

00:18:16.000 Returning to normal isn't about balancing health versus the economy.

00:18:19.000 It's about balancing health versus health.

00:18:21.000 The health risks of COVID-19, balanced against the health, social, and economic costs of keeping main streets across the United States closed for business.

00:18:28.000 Getting this balance right isn't simple.

00:18:30.000 It will look different for every state, business, and family.

00:18:32.000 The Trump administration is committed to helping each state and all Americans have the information and tools they need to safely reopen.

00:18:39.000 And he is correct about this.

00:18:41.000 Again, this is obviously a more nuanced position than, you want to reopen?

00:18:43.000 It's because you want grandma to die.

00:18:46.000 Idiots like Paul Krugman are going to have to explain why it is then that Gavin Newsom is reopening, why it is then that Andrew Cuomo is reopening.

00:18:54.000 Alex Azar says, The economic crisis brought on by the virus is a silent killer.

00:18:58.000 Estimates suggest that each 1 percentage point increase in the unemployment rate translates into a 1% increase in suicide deaths and a more than 3% increase in opioid deaths, which means this virus-induced recession will likely cause tens of thousands of excess deaths.

00:19:11.000 One study of the 1982 recession found that Americans who faced higher unemployment suffered approximately 40,000 excess deaths by age 65, as well as more divorces and having fewer children.

00:19:20.000 Shortening this economic crisis through a safe reopening could save thousands of lives.

00:19:25.000 Meanwhile, at a time of social stress, states are seeing a decline in reports of child maltreatment, which is likely going unreported because children are isolated from teachers and others who keep an eye on the vulnerable.

00:19:34.000 The COVID-19 response has also restricted access to health care.

00:19:38.000 Data suggests the number of Americans receiving important preventative services are down significantly.

00:19:42.000 Mammograms are down 87%.

00:19:44.000 Colonoscopies are down 90%.

00:19:46.000 More than 1.7 million new cancer cases are diagnosed per year in the United States.

00:19:50.000 If we see an 80% drop in cancer cases identified approximately, we could already have 200,000 or more undiagnosed cancer cases as a result.

00:19:57.000 Breast cancer surgeries are down approximately two-thirds since January.

00:20:01.000 Vaccine administrations were down 60% from early January to mid-March, which means you could see a measles outbreak in the fall.

00:20:08.000 All of this stuff is really, really bad.

00:20:10.000 And you have to balance all of this.

00:20:12.000 These are needs you have to balance.

00:20:14.000 There are reports from California that there are California doctors who are now saying that in their areas they are seeing more deaths by suicide than they are from COVID-19.

00:20:23.000 Dr. Michael DuBois-Blanc of John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, California, said that the numbers are unprecedented.

00:20:29.000 He said he's seen his year worth of suicides in the last four weeks alone.

00:20:33.000 He says, I think this was originally put in place to flatten the curve and make sure hospitals have the resources to take care of COVID patients.

00:20:38.000 We have resources to do that.

00:20:40.000 Our other community health is suffering.

00:20:41.000 Again, I talk to people in the medical industry literally every day.

00:20:44.000 They're sitting at their desks doing nothing because people are not coming into the hospitals for the care that they need because they were told that they weren't supposed to come and stay home if you can.

00:20:52.000 Well, now it turns out that hospitals are firing people in the middle of a pandemic.

00:20:56.000 It's incredible.

00:20:57.000 Meanwhile, it turns out that over in Washington State, a fraud network siphoned hundreds of millions of dollars off of the unemployment funds.

00:21:05.000 So you can do this for a little while.

00:21:06.000 You can do the pour money into the hose for a little while.

00:21:10.000 But pretty quickly, it turns into a fraud program.

00:21:13.000 Pretty quickly, it becomes obvious how much money is being wasted.

00:21:16.000 And pretty quickly, it becomes obvious that government is not a substitute for having a job and trusting your neighbors to be responsible citizens.

00:21:23.000 Officials confirmed this fraud on the same day the federal government reported another 2.4 million American workers filing for jobless benefits this week.

00:21:30.000 The total is a staggering 38.6 million people have filed for jobless benefits in the last nine weeks alone, which is totally insane.

00:21:37.000 Unprecedented in American history.

00:21:39.000 The Labor Department has found that a large majority of laid-off workers, according to the New York Times, expect their joblessness to be temporary, but there's growing concern among economists that many jobs will never come back.

00:21:49.000 Nicholas Bloom, economist at Stanford, he said, I hate to say it, this is going to take longer and look grimmer than we thought.

00:21:55.000 This is why it's actually important to reopen the economy as fast as possible.

00:21:58.000 One of the reasons it's really important to do that as fast as possible is specifically because you need to let the market iron out all of the inefficiencies in the market.

00:22:06.000 As we move into a new world, we are going to have to figure out exactly how restaurants cope.

00:22:12.000 Restaurants, for example, the market does help create a feedback loop of what is needed.

00:22:17.000 So right now, commercial real estate is getting devastated, obviously, because why would you rent commercial real estate when you can't go into the office?

00:22:23.000 But let's say that you're a restaurant.

00:22:24.000 You might actually need more commercial real estate.

00:22:27.000 One of the reasons you might need more commercial real estate is you knock down the wall between your little storefront and the storefront next to you, and suddenly you can actually fit the number of people you need to fit in there with the social distancing.

00:22:37.000 In other words, getting back to the real world and letting people make decisions about their own economic livelihood is going to be necessary in order to see an uptick in the economy.

00:22:45.000 Centralized government bureaucracy and pouring money into the economy at the same time you're telling companies whether they can and cannot open is a recipe for disaster.

00:22:54.000 More and more Americans are realizing this.

00:22:57.000 And that's a good thing.

00:22:58.000 I mean, I think that that is good.

00:22:59.000 It means that Americans are zealous about their freedoms.

00:23:02.000 They should be zealous about their freedoms.

00:23:03.000 It's a very, very important thing.

00:23:05.000 By the way, this is President Trump's pitch.

00:23:07.000 So, President Trump was in Michigan yesterday, and he said, listen, Americans want to go back to work.

00:23:12.000 He is correct about this.

00:23:13.000 By the polling data, we're about evenly split, but among Americans who have a job and just lost one, a majority do want to go back to work, and that's going to increase over time.

00:23:20.000 It is not going to decrease over time.

00:23:22.000 The momentum for reopening is obvious.

00:23:24.000 It is clear.

00:23:25.000 We are moving toward reopening, and that's a good thing.

00:23:27.000 Here was President Trump yesterday at the Ford factory in Michigan.

00:23:30.000 There's a tremendous pent-up demand, and that includes for your cars.

00:23:34.000 Americans who need and want to return to work should not be vilified.

00:23:40.000 They should be supported.

00:23:42.000 Unlike many politicians and journalists, for those who earn a living with their own two hands, working remotely is just not an option.

00:23:50.000 You don't have the option of doing that.

00:23:54.000 Okay, so he is right about that.

00:23:56.000 I mean, the people who are being disproportionately hit by this thing are blue-collar, low-income workers.

00:23:56.000 He's correct.

00:24:00.000 Those are the people whose jobs are disappearing.

00:24:02.000 And a government check is not a substitute for a job.

00:24:05.000 It is not a substitute for being involved in the creation of products and services for other people to consume.

00:24:10.000 It's just not.

00:24:12.000 Jobs actually do provide a level of meaning that a government check does not.

00:24:14.000 This is one of the things that universal basic income will never solve.

00:24:17.000 Universal basic income?

00:24:18.000 The idea is that if we give you a universal basic income, you won't have to take a job you don't want to, and you'll be able to sit there and create art all day.

00:24:24.000 Question, how much art have people been creating during quarantine?

00:24:27.000 Really?

00:24:28.000 Or how much have people actually been engaging and just sitting around watching TV?

00:24:32.000 I think these stats are pretty telling, actually.

00:24:34.000 Okay, meanwhile, we're gonna get to the Trump controversies in Michigan, and then we'll get to the controversy that really should be, okay, the big controversy of the day.

00:24:41.000 And that is Joe Biden.

00:24:43.000 And the 2020 election, the question is, is it a referendum on Biden or is it a referendum on Trump?

00:24:47.000 So far, it's been a referendum on Trump, but it could easily turn into a referendum on Joe Biden.

00:24:51.000 We'll get to that in just one moment.

00:24:53.000 First, let's talk about the fact that as we transition back into an economy that is free and open, as we move into a new world of different demand and supply curves, well, people are going to need jobs and people are going to need employees.

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00:26:03.000 Okay, so President Trump was in Michigan yesterday and this created the opportunity for the media to go nuts on President Trump in a series of really, really dumb controversies.

00:26:12.000 Like a bunch of really dumb controversies.

00:26:14.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden was literally saying this morning in an interview that you're not black if you don't vote for him.

00:26:21.000 And the media will gloss over that, like, immediately.

00:26:24.000 The differential way in which controversies are treated by the media is an incredible thing.

00:26:27.000 And I spend a lot of time criticizing the media.

00:26:28.000 That is because the media are the filter through which you see information.

00:26:32.000 One of the things we do on this show is provide a different filter through which you see information.

00:26:35.000 I'm not going to say there's no filter.

00:26:37.000 There is.

00:26:37.000 I'm the filter.

00:26:38.000 But I at least try to bring to attention things that the media are going to downplay as opposed to the things that they play up.

00:26:42.000 So here's a perfect example.

00:26:43.000 Last night, President Trump, he spoke in Michigan.

00:26:46.000 In the middle of his speech, he started talking about the Ford family.

00:26:50.000 And he started talking about the fact that the board of Ford still has people who are from the Ford family sitting on it.

00:26:55.000 And he praises the, quote-unquote, Ford bloodlines.

00:26:57.000 And what he's pointing out is that the Ford company was founded by Henry Ford, who is one of the most iconic American industrial figures in human history.

00:27:05.000 One of the most iconic industrial figures in history.

00:27:08.000 Literally, the Ford production process became the basis for a certain philosophy of business.

00:27:13.000 It became the basis, both good and bad, for a certain philosophy of how human beings should interact.

00:27:19.000 None of that is to say that Henry Ford himself was a wonderful, wonderful dude.

00:27:22.000 In terms of his antisemitism, he brutally was not.

00:27:25.000 I've talked about this on the show, like four days ago I referred to this on the show before this controversy blew up, right?

00:27:29.000 I mean, I talked about the fact that Henry Ford was actually a vicious antisemite who published Do you think that's what Trump is referring to when he talks about the Ford bloodline here?

00:27:37.000 newspapers from like 1920 to 1927, was sued for libel and had to shut down the newspaper, then received an award from the Nazi government in 1938.

00:27:43.000 So Henry Ford was a vicious, horrible anti-Semite.

00:27:47.000 He hated Jews.

00:27:47.000 He thought the Jews formed a world conspiracy against him and all the rest.

00:27:51.000 Do you think that's what Trump is referring to when he talks about the Ford bloodline here?

00:27:55.000 So Trump says this about the Ford family, and everybody immediately jumps to, he's endorsing Ford's anti-Semitism and genetic eugenic views.

00:28:02.000 Come on.

00:28:05.000 This is so silly.

00:28:06.000 Here is Trump yesterday.

00:28:07.000 The company founded by a man named Henry Ford.

00:28:11.000 Good bloodlines.

00:28:12.000 Good bloodlines.

00:28:13.000 If you believe in that stuff, you got good blood.

00:28:17.000 They teamed up with the company founded by Thomas Edison.

00:28:21.000 That's General Electric.

00:28:23.000 It's good stuff.

00:28:24.000 That's good stuff.

00:28:25.000 And you put it all together.

00:28:27.000 They're all looking down right now and they'd be very proud of what they see.

00:28:32.000 This is, well, I mean, okay, so, is that a smart thing to say?

00:28:36.000 Well, if you had historical awareness, it wouldn't be a particularly smart thing to say.

00:28:39.000 But when he's talking about, like, the bloodlines of the company, or the bloodlines of your family, if it turns out that your grandfather was present, you say, the Roosevelt family, that's a hell of a bloodline right there.

00:28:47.000 If you say the Kennedy family, that's a hell of a bloodline.

00:28:49.000 And then somebody goes, oh, you mean Joseph Kennedy, that vicious anti-Semite?

00:28:53.000 He was a vicious anti-Semite, Joseph Kennedy.

00:28:55.000 Then people would be like, that's not what he's talking about.

00:28:55.000 Right?

00:28:58.000 Do you really think that he's referring to Henry Ford's antisemitism there?

00:29:01.000 That he's dog whistling to the alt-right when he refers to the Ford bloodlines?

00:29:05.000 This blew up on social media last night, obviously because Trump's a racist and we have to impute racism rather than ignorance to him.

00:29:05.000 Of course not.

00:29:11.000 Again, there's a very simple solution to Trump saying dumb things.

00:29:14.000 And that is, the man says dumb things.

00:29:16.000 He doesn't know anything about history.

00:29:20.000 I have friends who have been to events where Trump has literally said, I've written more books than I have read.

00:29:25.000 Donald Trump is not a master of American history.

00:29:27.000 He is not fluent in American history.

00:29:30.000 He doesn't know things.

00:29:31.000 Okay, so the imputation of anti-Semitism to him, first of all, based on he's the most pro-Israel president in American history, he's the most pro-Jewish president probably in American history, given the fact that he has promulgated executive orders that have tried to protect Jews on campus, he's been outspoken against anti-Semitism repeatedly, For all of the talk about his associations with the alt-right in 2016, I was one of the people who talked extensively about it.

00:29:55.000 He forcibly disassociated himself from them in mid-2017 and beyond.

00:30:01.000 None of that was good.

00:30:02.000 But to pretend that Donald Trump is like a vicious anti-Semite when his grandkids are Jewish is insane.

00:30:06.000 It's just not correct.

00:30:06.000 It's not correct.

00:30:07.000 Okay, so, Trump...

00:30:10.000 That was dumb controversy number one.

00:30:11.000 Then there was dumb controversy number two, which is President Trump saying silly things.

00:30:15.000 So yesterday, President Trump mentioned that he is tested daily for coronavirus.

00:30:19.000 And he does like a full-on South Park routine here about being positive on a test versus negative on a test.

00:30:25.000 This has been like a longtime comedy bit for a very long time.

00:30:28.000 It's a pretty old chestnut.

00:30:29.000 Here's President Trump doing it unintentionally.

00:30:32.000 I had a two-week regimen of hydroxychloroquine, and I've taken it, I think, just about two weeks.

00:30:39.000 I think it's another day.

00:30:40.000 And I'm still here.

00:30:43.000 I'm still here.

00:30:44.000 And I tested very positively in another sense.

00:30:50.000 So, this morning, yeah, I tested positively toward negative, right?

00:30:54.000 So, no, I tested perfectly this morning, meaning I tested negative.

00:31:02.000 He kind of realizes in the middle of that that this became a trend too.

00:31:05.000 Because, oh my gosh, Trump said positively, negatively, negatively, positively.

00:31:09.000 And then there was the stupid controversy over whether he wore a mask in Michigan.

00:31:12.000 So there are all sorts of news reports.

00:31:14.000 He didn't wear a mask when he was in Michigan.

00:31:15.000 First of all, he's not positive for COVID-19.

00:31:18.000 He would be in isolation if he were positive for COVID-19.

00:31:20.000 The man's tested literally every day.

00:31:23.000 Every single day.

00:31:23.000 He's the most protected person in America from COVID-19.

00:31:27.000 And as it turns out, he actually was wearing a mask, right?

00:31:30.000 There was a picture that emerged that behind closed doors, he was wearing a mask.

00:31:34.000 In other words, when he was in close proximity to other people, he was wearing a mask.

00:31:37.000 And then when he spoke, he was not wearing a mask.

00:31:39.000 Which, by the way, is also what reporters have been doing in the White House Rose Garden.

00:31:43.000 So yesterday, Trump explained, I don't want to give the media the pleasure of seeing me with a mask on.

00:31:47.000 Now listen, I think this is dumb.

00:31:49.000 I do.

00:31:49.000 I think it's really stupid.

00:31:50.000 I think that the president, when he is out in public, should be wearing a mask.

00:31:54.000 Not because I think that he is making other people unsafe, but because he sets a good example to a lot of Trump followers that if you are in public with other people, you should be wearing a mask.

00:32:02.000 I think that's a good thing.

00:32:03.000 I do.

00:32:04.000 I mean, Mike Pence has been wearing a mask.

00:32:05.000 So I think that that's a good thing.

00:32:07.000 Here was President Trump yesterday, though, saying, I'm never gonna give the satisfaction to the media.

00:32:10.000 And listen, this is how Trump rules.

00:32:12.000 But is this a major, like, did Trump cough on people and give them corona yesterday?

00:32:15.000 He did not.

00:32:16.000 And if he were wearing a mask, would he be protecting himself from corona?

00:32:19.000 No, he would not.

00:32:20.000 So on a practical level, Trump endangered no one by wearing, by not wearing a mask.

00:32:24.000 Just as if you don't have COVID-19, you're not endangering anybody by not wearing a mask.

00:32:28.000 That said, it's asymptomatic.

00:32:30.000 You may not know.

00:32:31.000 So you should wear a mask.

00:32:32.000 Listen, I think that Trump should do it.

00:32:34.000 I do.

00:32:34.000 I think he should put on a mask when he is in public.

00:32:37.000 But do I think that it's like a major controversy of the day?

00:32:39.000 Of course not.

00:32:40.000 Did it turn into the major controversy of the day?

00:32:41.000 Of course it did, because we live in the stupidest possible timeline.

00:32:44.000 Here's President Trump yesterday.

00:32:46.000 Take us through your thought process of why he decided not to wear a mask.

00:32:49.000 Well, I did wear... I had one on before.

00:32:51.000 I wore one in this back area.

00:32:53.000 But I didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it.

00:32:56.000 But no, where I had it, in the back area, I did put a mask on.

00:33:00.000 Did you have the goggles on too, as well, sir?

00:33:02.000 I did.

00:33:02.000 I had goggles.

00:33:03.000 Goggles and a mask, I put.

00:33:04.000 But why would you not be wearing... And here's another one.

00:33:06.000 Why would you not be wearing...

00:33:07.000 Because in this area- Why would you not be wearing it here, sir?

00:33:12.000 Not necessary here.

00:33:13.000 Everybody's been tested and I've been tested.

00:33:15.000 In fact, I was tested this morning.

00:33:18.000 Okay, so again, is this like a major controversy?

00:33:20.000 No.

00:33:20.000 Did that bring the Michigan Attorney General to national TV to say maybe we'll prosecute Ford for not making Trump wear a mask?

00:33:27.000 Trump is no longer welcome in our state.

00:33:29.000 I wonder, maybe she's a Democrat.

00:33:31.000 It occurs to me that maybe the Michigan AG is a Democrat for saying something as dumb as this on national TV.

00:33:35.000 Is the president no longer welcome in Michigan?

00:33:41.000 Well, I will say speaking on behalf of my department and my office, that's right.

00:33:46.000 The president is like a petulant child who refuses to follow the rules.

00:33:51.000 And I have to say, this is no joke.

00:33:52.000 I think that we're going to have to have a very serious conversation with Ford in the event that they permitted the president to be in publicly enclosed places in violation of the order.

00:34:04.000 They knew exactly what the order was.

00:34:08.000 I mean, come on.

00:34:09.000 Come on.

00:34:10.000 They're going to go after Ford.

00:34:11.000 Trump is banned from the state.

00:34:12.000 What are you going to do, arrest him when he comes there because he didn't wear a mask?

00:34:16.000 On what legal grounds would you do this?

00:34:18.000 And what are the damages that you can prove?

00:34:19.000 This is very, very silly stuff.

00:34:21.000 Okay, so then we'll get to controversies that are not silly.

00:34:24.000 Because it turns out that there are some controversies in America that are not silly.

00:34:28.000 And Joe Biden is making himself the issue.

00:34:31.000 It's amazing.

00:34:33.000 For Joe Biden to win, basically all he has to do, this is like the perfect situation for Biden, all he has to do is lie in his casket all day in his basement and he will be the president.

00:34:41.000 That's all he has to do.

00:34:42.000 Just almost literally be dead.

00:34:45.000 Just eat and drink and say nothing for six months and he will likely be president, according to the polling numbers.

00:34:50.000 And he can't do it.

00:34:51.000 Because Joe Biden, it turns out, is a terrible, terrible candidate.

00:34:54.000 And he says terrible things.

00:34:55.000 And his ideology about race is awful as well.

00:34:57.000 We'll get to that momentarily.

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00:36:08.000 And his vicious racism.

00:36:10.000 I mean, really, this is actual racism.

00:36:13.000 The media will brush it off because he's a Democrat, but it's pretty damned racist.

00:36:16.000 We'll get to that in one second.

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00:37:51.000 That is pretty spectacular stuff right there.

00:37:52.000 I mean, that's wild.

00:37:53.000 tears tumbler nutrient dense leftist tears simultaneously provide the energy to do socially distance aerial sports nourish the growing body of our unborn child and boost immune response to protect from covid that is pretty spectacular stuff right there i mean that's that's wild so i'm gonna assume she's professional at this because she's eight months pregnant and she is hanging from ribbons but that's pretty spectacular stuff right there Thanks for the pic.

00:38:14.000 Congrats on the growing family.

00:38:15.000 That is awesome stuff.

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00:38:34.000 Okay, so this is pretty astonishing stuff.

00:38:43.000 So Joe Biden is running against Donald Trump, or shall we say sleeping against Donald Trump.

00:38:48.000 And he is, all he has to do is just avoid controversy.

00:38:51.000 That's all he has to do.

00:38:52.000 Well, today, he's on a show called Breakfast Club, which is a popular podcast.

00:38:57.000 And he decided at the end of the interview that he was going to tell a black man that black people have to, this host, who is black, is saying, you know, when you have a chance, you should come up to New York.

00:39:10.000 Many of us who are black have questions for you about your policies.

00:39:13.000 Which, by the way, you don't have to not vote for Joe Biden.

00:39:16.000 You could still vote for Joe Biden and have questions about his policies.

00:39:19.000 This is called American politics.

00:39:20.000 You can even demand things from candidates in exchange for your vote in terms of policy.

00:39:24.000 Not in terms of bribery, but in terms of policy.

00:39:26.000 You can do those things.

00:39:28.000 But Joe Biden literally says out loud the quiet part, which is the Democrats believe that you're not actually black if you won't vote for Joe Biden.

00:39:35.000 So Joe Biden actually says this, which is a hell of a thing to say coming from Joe Biden.

00:39:38.000 I mean, it is pure.

00:39:40.000 Like, imagine any Republican saying this about about black folks in America and the blowback.

00:39:46.000 It doesn't matter at any level.

00:39:47.000 Every Republican in America would be asked about it.

00:39:50.000 Every single one, let alone the presidential candidate.

00:39:53.000 It's incredible.

00:39:54.000 So here is Joe Biden being blatantly racist.

00:39:56.000 I mean, this is blatantly racist.

00:39:59.000 Listen, you gotta come see us when you come to New York, VP Biden.

00:40:02.000 I will.

00:40:03.000 It's a long way until November.

00:40:05.000 We got more questions.

00:40:06.000 You got more questions.

00:40:07.000 I tell you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black.

00:40:14.000 That is insane.

00:40:17.000 That's an insane thing to say.

00:40:18.000 Even some folks on the left are upset by this.

00:40:20.000 Not all of them.

00:40:20.000 You got people like Dave Weigel, the reporter over at the Washington Post trying to make excuses for Joe Biden.

00:40:27.000 Dave Weigel actually tweeted this out.

00:40:30.000 He's covering politics for the Washington Post.

00:40:31.000 He used to be over at Slate.

00:40:32.000 He says, the U.N.

00:40:33.000 black thing is a combustion of two pretty well-known factors.

00:40:36.000 CTG rattles people with direct questions.

00:40:38.000 That's the host.

00:40:39.000 Charlemagne the God, that's who that is.

00:40:41.000 And Joe Biden gets set off if he thinks someone is questioning his record.

00:40:45.000 Oh, so that's what happened.

00:40:46.000 He didn't just say that black people aren't black if they don't vote for him.

00:40:49.000 Oh, really, he was just a little rattled.

00:40:51.000 Weigl says, I've seen it when Biden got challenged by climate activists or someone had a question about guns.

00:40:55.000 Cue for a 60-second stem winder about how the questioner should check the facts and I'm the only one who's beaten the NRA, etc.

00:41:00.000 You might ask, why doesn't he pivot to a better topic?

00:41:03.000 He doesn't pivot.

00:41:03.000 If you doubt he's got the best positions and experience, he'll tell you you're wrong and you should vote for someone else.

00:41:07.000 So far, this has gotten him the nomination and a poll lead.

00:41:10.000 Well, question.

00:41:13.000 It's one thing to say I have the best record on guns, so if you don't like it, don't vote for me.

00:41:18.000 To say, if you don't vote for me, you are not black, is an insane thing to say.

00:41:23.000 Joe Biden is not the decider as to who is black and who is not.

00:41:28.000 In fact, it turns out, you know who's the decider on who is black and who is not?

00:41:31.000 It turns out that your race is the decider on who is black and who is not.

00:41:34.000 It is objectively determinable who is black and who is not, right?

00:41:39.000 We know this because Rachel Dolezal tried to claim she was black and she was not black.

00:41:43.000 Right, so Joe Biden does not get to be the decider on whether you are black, and certainly you don't get to decide whether somebody is black based on ideology.

00:41:48.000 It turns out that race and ideology are completely non-congruent.

00:41:52.000 There are plenty of white liberals and plenty of white conservatives.

00:41:55.000 You don't decide somebody's politics based on their race.

00:41:57.000 And if you do, you are doing racism.

00:41:59.000 This would be open acknowledgement of racism.

00:42:01.000 But he puts that out there, and watch, it'll blow over within five minutes.

00:42:05.000 Now, what it may have done, happiest person in America take Kamala Harris.

00:42:09.000 Because Kamala Harris chided Joe Biden as a racist during the primaries, and now she's being actively considered as his VP.

00:42:14.000 So Amy Klobuchar, hardest hit.

00:42:16.000 Yesterday it was announced that Joe Biden might pick Amy Klobuchar.

00:42:19.000 And the woke crowd on Twitter was like, you can't pick a white woman.

00:42:22.000 It has to be a black woman.

00:42:23.000 Well, now Joe Biden basically just set himself on fire here.

00:42:26.000 So he's going to have to pick a black woman, just to prove that he is not a racist.

00:42:30.000 He's going to have to pick a black woman.

00:42:31.000 And then the black person can come out and say, can make the judgment as to who is legitimately black and who is legitimately not or something.

00:42:37.000 That will be the tactic that Joe takes.

00:42:39.000 So Kamala Harris is the happiest candidate in America today.

00:42:42.000 She is so happy.

00:42:42.000 Stacey Abrams is now like, Stacey Abrams is festooning her house with VP colors.

00:42:47.000 It's like she's getting all of her bunting out.

00:42:51.000 It's very, Joe Biden, it's an unbelievable thing.

00:42:55.000 Like, why would that even occur to him?

00:42:57.000 You're not legitimately Black.

00:42:58.000 Now, the answer to that not occurring to him is because there's a narrative that has taken place in Democratic circles that you are only, that Black people should only vote for Democrats because only Democrats care about Black people.

00:43:10.000 And they are attempting to push this narrative, Democrats are, and members of the media, by suggesting that Trump's handling of coronavirus is racial, that Republicans' belief in reopening is racial.

00:43:19.000 We saw this by Hurricane Katrina, by the way.

00:43:20.000 I predicted this, I think, three months ago.

00:43:23.000 I think fully three months ago, I predicted that the Democrats were going to turn the coronavirus pandemic into a racial issue.

00:43:29.000 That it was not going to remain a national crisis.

00:43:32.000 They were immediately going to attempt to try and racialize this thing such that they could claim that the Trump administration was botching this because they don't care enough about black and brown people.

00:43:39.000 And that's exactly what Democrats are attempting to do right now.

00:43:42.000 And that's why you're hearing Biden say stuff like that, right?

00:43:44.000 The tacit assumption that Biden is making is that Donald Trump hates it and doesn't care about black people.

00:43:49.000 And thus, if you are black, you should vote for Joe Biden.

00:43:51.000 You don't actually care about or believe in black people if you don't agree with Joe Biden on the issues because Joe Biden is pro-black and the tacit assumption there is that Donald Trump is a vicious racist.

00:44:01.000 That is the tacit assumption.

00:44:03.000 Making that tacit assumption explicit is a piece today in the Washington Post by Michelle Morris.

00:44:08.000 It's called, The Us and Them Pandemic Shows America is Still Impervious to Black Pain.

00:44:13.000 So I gotta be honest with you.

00:44:14.000 I have not thought once about The notion that we should skimp on medical resources based on race in a pandemic.

00:44:24.000 That's an insane contention.

00:44:27.000 But she suggests that basically, if you're pro-lockdown, it's because you don't care about Black and Hispanic people enough.

00:44:32.000 How does she come to this bizarre conclusion?

00:44:36.000 She quotes a political scientist named Evan Lieberman.

00:44:39.000 He's an MIT professor who has studied the public response to AIDS and HIV based on ethnic and racial factors.

00:44:43.000 He suspected that collecting disaggregated racial data on COVID-19 could have unintended consequences.

00:44:48.000 Yes, it would help identify areas of vulnerability or need.

00:44:51.000 But when that vulnerability was then attached to a specific racial or ethnic category, he feared, it could harm the very group the data collection was supposed to help.

00:44:58.000 He wrote, it's not difficult to imagine that if COVID-19 comes to be understood as a black epidemic, this will create false impressions for many white Americans.

00:45:04.000 In the United States is racially polarized and effectively segregated society, which we are not.

00:45:09.000 But the virus is, quote, not our problem, leading to decreased demand for and compliance with public health directives.

00:45:14.000 Michelle Norris says not our problem is an undercurrent in the largely white reopening America protests popping up daily around the country.

00:45:20.000 So now we're going to racialize this thing.

00:45:21.000 If you want to reopen, it's because you're racist and you don't care about black and brown people.

00:45:24.000 She says not our problem is the undercurrent when people refuse to wear masks in public.

00:45:27.000 And not our problem is the conclusion one cannot help but draw when one studies the calendar and sees that the protests commenced around the same time that the data on racial disparities became a central storyline in COVID-19 news coverage.

00:45:38.000 Well, I can help draw that conclusion because that conclusion does not follow.

00:45:43.000 Okay, first of all, the subsets on racial disparities were coming out fairly early in all of this, when lockdown was still incredibly popular.

00:45:50.000 The end of the lockdown talk started once the curve was flattened.

00:45:54.000 That's what actually drove all this, was people saying, okay, we're not gonna die if we go back to work, so can we go back to work now?

00:46:00.000 I love this.

00:46:00.000 this.

00:46:00.000 This is what Michelle Norris says.

00:46:02.000 Some will no doubt argue that the not our problem is a coincidence of timing.

00:46:05.000 Perhaps it is fueled by disassociation.

00:46:07.000 If the viral load is concentrated in nursing homes, meatpacking plants, prisons, and black communities, then those who don't have connections to any of those places are going to feel less threatened and boldly venture out into the world as stay-at-home orders are relaxed.

00:46:18.000 Well, that would make more sense, right?

00:46:20.000 I mean, it would make sense.

00:46:22.000 I don't make a decision on lockdown based on the race of the people acquiring this.

00:46:26.000 I do make a decision based on where I'm going to go today, based on the heaviness of the viral load.

00:46:30.000 I would not travel today into New York City.

00:46:33.000 I would travel today into Florida or Texas.

00:46:36.000 Does that have to do with the racial constituency of New York, or does it have to do with the risk factors in New York?

00:46:40.000 But she says, she says, I doubt it.

00:46:44.000 Post reporter Stephanie McCrummon recently visited a wealthy area of shops and restaurants in Alpharetta, Georgia, where crowds of unworried and unmasked people were eating, drinking, touching, and throwing caution to the wind.

00:46:52.000 She spoke with two men on the sprawling plaza, sipping beer on a sunny day.

00:46:55.000 When you start seeing where the cases are coming from in the demographics, I'm not worried, one of the men said.

00:46:59.000 His friend chimed in.

00:47:00.000 I know what people are going to say.

00:47:01.000 Those selfish idiots are killing our old people.

00:47:03.000 And then the friend noted he wasn't worried because of, well, you know, the demographics served up the final punctuation.

00:47:09.000 How do you give up a day like this?

00:47:10.000 Really, how?

00:47:11.000 The two men were enjoying that beautiful spring day in Georgia, a state where black people make up 83% of the coronavirus hospital patients, even though they constitute one-third of the population.

00:47:21.000 Well, hold up.

00:47:22.000 So now, because he said that the demographics don't threaten him, meaning that he is young.

00:47:26.000 That's what people are generally talking about when they talk about the demographics.

00:47:29.000 And when we talk about what is threatening people, they're talking pre-existing conditions, age.

00:47:35.000 Those are the two main factors.

00:47:37.000 Those are the factors everybody is analyzing.

00:47:39.000 Because, by the way, those are the factors that matter.

00:47:41.000 If you are black and you are young and you don't have pre-existing conditions, there is no evidence you're going to die at a higher rate than if you are white and young and have no pre-existing conditions.

00:47:48.000 This is not a racialized issue, it's just that there are other cross-cutting currents that may disproportionately fall in one community or another.

00:47:55.000 So, to try and turn this into a racial narrative is of course a political move.

00:47:59.000 And the political move...

00:48:01.000 is that the suggestion is that the American population is calling for lockdown because secretly they are racist.

00:48:10.000 Michelle Norris says we can use words such as demographics and comorbidities to dance around the subject of race, but we cannot skirt the fact that what is a nuisance for one person is another person's plague.

00:48:19.000 Not my problem is not the right response.

00:48:22.000 So somehow this got racialized, but everything gets racialized.

00:48:24.000 This is the narrative.

00:48:26.000 So the narrative in democratic circles is that everything at root is racial.

00:48:29.000 And because everything at root is racial, you aren't really black if you vote for Republicans.

00:48:33.000 Because of course, everything Republicans do is motivated by brutal racism.

00:48:38.000 Now what this does necessitate for Democrats is neglecting cases that do not fit into this neat and easy narrative of Republicans are the vicious racists in society and the great victimization is happening by white Americans against black Americans disproportionately.

00:48:54.000 And so that dictates which events are going to be covered and how those events are going to be covered.

00:48:58.000 So the media, for example, will put heavy focus on the Arbery shooting in Georgia.

00:49:03.000 That's totally fine, by the way.

00:49:04.000 That was a complete botch.

00:49:05.000 Like, that should be the focus of media coverage.

00:49:07.000 It was an awful shoot by the evidence.

00:49:10.000 There are now three people have been arrested.

00:49:12.000 Correctly by the police for murder including this is now including the person who's taping this thing from behind.

00:49:16.000 That is a very very good thing.

00:49:18.000 That's the process working.

00:49:19.000 We have not yet seen evidence that the people who were involved in the shooting were doing so because our Barry was black.

00:49:24.000 We're gonna find that out.

00:49:25.000 We do have evidence of corruption inside the DA's office because they let this go because they were friendly with some of those people.

00:49:29.000 Okay, that receives inordinate coverage.

00:49:31.000 Good!

00:49:32.000 But there was a case yesterday that received no coverage.

00:49:35.000 Okay, virtually no national coverage.

00:49:37.000 This was a case which you would assume is kind of relevant given all the issues we've been having in nursing homes.

00:49:43.000 There's a tape that was going around.

00:49:44.000 The Detroit Police Department said in a statement they arrested a 20-year-old male in connection to the assault and battery of an elderly male inside the Westwood Nursing Center on the northwest side of the city, according to the Detroit News.

00:49:54.000 And tape emerged.

00:49:55.000 It's a 20-year-old black man, and he's beating the living hell out of an elderly nursing home patient.

00:50:00.000 He appears to be wiping the blood from an elderly male in an attempt to hide the wounds.

00:50:04.000 Both were apparently patients at the nursing home, according to the Detroit News.

00:50:07.000 It's not clear why the 20-year-old suspect was being treated there.

00:50:09.000 Additional unconfirmed videos of the suspect assaulting other elderly individuals have surfaced across social media.

00:50:13.000 chief James Craig.

00:50:14.000 We're still investigating that aspect of the case.

00:50:16.000 We do have a suspect in custody.

00:50:17.000 Additional unconfirmed videos of the suspect assaulting other elderly individuals have surfaced across social media.

00:50:24.000 It appears the assault was racially motivated.

00:50:26.000 So that is the police talking that the assault was racially motivated.

00:50:31.000 Now, does this mean that black people are willy-nilly going around beating up old people?

00:50:34.000 Of course not!

00:50:35.000 Of course not!

00:50:36.000 You cannot form a referendum on the basis of anecdotal evidence.

00:50:38.000 But the media are very fond of drawing referenda on the basis of anecdotal evidence, even if the evidence doesn't completely support it.

00:50:44.000 Why?

00:50:44.000 Because again, it backs a narrative.

00:50:47.000 So here's the reality.

00:50:48.000 We should cover all crimes.

00:50:50.000 We should make sure that all crimes get covered.

00:50:52.000 And we should base our trend lines on actual data, not on anecdotal evidence.

00:50:56.000 But because the media have a narrative in mind, that is why, in the end, Joe Biden will be fined for saying that black people are not black unless they vote for Joe Biden.

00:51:05.000 Because that falls right in line with the easy media narrative, which is that everything is about racist Republicans demeaning black people, and everything Democrats do is in defense of black people against those racist Republicans.

00:51:15.000 It dictates the media coverage.

00:51:16.000 It dictates which stories get covered.

00:51:18.000 It dictates how presidential candidates are covered.

00:51:21.000 Because, again, you don't cover Democrats like Republicans because Republicans are evil and Democrats are good.

00:51:24.000 That's the bottom line here.

00:51:26.000 And you won't cover the story in Detroit the same way that you will cover other stories.

00:51:29.000 If the races were reversed, by the way, if that were a white man in a nursing home beating up elderly black people, It's going to be the front page of every newspaper in America because one supports the generalized narrative that America is a vicious, racist country, and the other does not support that narrative.

00:51:43.000 The other supports a different narrative, which is that there are, in fact, racists in many different communities, including in the black community.

00:51:51.000 Right?

00:51:52.000 That is not a narrative that anybody wants to draw, particularly not in the press.

00:51:55.000 So this will go completely uncovered.

00:51:56.000 It will disappear from the news.

00:51:58.000 And of course, I'm not equating the Arbery shooting, somebody died in that case, to this.

00:52:01.000 I'm just talking about the media coverage of the two stories, which has been completely disparate.

00:52:05.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.

00:52:09.000 Well, it's good to know that many Democrats are now rallying around Joe Biden, no matter what he does.

00:52:18.000 A columnist for The Nation named Ketha Pollitt claimed on Wednesday she would vote for Joe Biden, quote, if he boiled babies and ate them.

00:52:27.000 Makes sense.

00:52:28.000 Pollitt shrugged off Senate staffer Tara Reid's sexual assault allegation against Biden, declaring, quote, I would vote for Joe Biden if he boiled babies and ate them.

00:52:35.000 He wasn't my candidate, but taking back the White House is that important.

00:52:38.000 She says, I cannot believe that a rational person can grasp the disaster that is Donald Trump and withhold their support from Biden because of Tara Reid.

00:52:46.000 I would say this even if I had no problems with Reade's account.

00:52:48.000 I take women's accusations very seriously, but there have always been reasons to be skeptical about this one.

00:52:52.000 To believe Reade, you have to believe that Biden put her up against a wall and penetrated her with her fingers on the spur of the moment in a hallway in a Capitol complex Where she says she was looking for him to give him his gym bag.

00:53:01.000 This corridor is a public space.

00:53:03.000 To believe Reid, you have to believe Biden would take that risk.

00:53:05.000 Whether or not you believe Reid, you should vote for Joe Biden if he's the nominee.

00:53:08.000 We don't have the luxury of sitting out the election to feel morally pure or send a message about sexual assault and believe women.

00:53:13.000 That will not help women at all or anyone else.

00:53:16.000 So that is pretty deranged, insane stuff, obviously.

00:53:20.000 And I'm glad to see that some Democrats are just embracing their inner id.

00:53:24.000 That's exciting stuff.

00:53:25.000 Meanwhile, James Carville, who stumped very hard for Joe Biden against Bernie Sanders, he was out there saying that Trump is going to get his, quote, fat-ass beat, which is typical James Carville.

00:53:35.000 He's going to get his fat beat.

00:53:37.000 That's what's going on.

00:53:38.000 He's going to get his fat beat.

00:53:40.000 We can get 295 electoral votes and we'll change nothing.

00:53:46.000 If we go and take it to him and talk about what a massive fat failure he is, then we can run away with this thing.

00:53:56.000 And you can defeat... The idea is not just to defeat Trump.

00:54:00.000 You have to defeat Trumpism.

00:54:04.000 Okay, so there's James Carville going off.

00:54:06.000 And again, the fact that so many people are willing to back Joe Biden no matter what, this does shine a spotlight on the criticism of people who in 2016 said, I'll vote for Trump just to defeat Hillary.

00:54:15.000 So now they're all, we'll vote for Joe Biden just to defeat Trump.

00:54:18.000 The same guy who was telling people, we want to put you all back in chains to black people, that Mitt Romney is going to put them all back in chains is now saying you're not a legit black person unless you vote for Joe Biden.

00:54:26.000 By the way, Joe Biden gaffes more than any candidate I have ever seen.

00:54:29.000 Remember when the media were shouting at Mitt Romney, what about your gaffes?

00:54:32.000 Remember that?

00:54:33.000 Joe Biden gassed more than any candidate in history.

00:54:35.000 Yesterday, Joe Biden suggested that Senator Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin has, quote, a great deal of lift and heft.

00:54:42.000 I don't think that that means what you think it means, Joe.

00:54:45.000 Let me ask you about Wisconsin's other senator, Democrat Tammy Baldwin.

00:54:50.000 Is she on your list?

00:54:51.000 Is she being vetted as a potential vice presidential pick?

00:54:54.000 What I don't want to do, and I'm not going to do, is list the people who are being considered.

00:54:59.000 But Tammy is an incredibly competent United States Senator, with a great deal of heft and lift to her, what she's able to do.

00:55:08.000 And she's capable of doing almost anything.

00:55:12.000 I can pick her up with one hand.

00:55:13.000 I've been exercising.

00:55:14.000 If you'd like to have a push-up contest right now, I will have a push-up, and then I will bench-press Stacey Abrams.

00:55:21.000 I've been working out, so I've moved up from bench-pressing Kamala to bench-pressing Stacey and Tammy Baldwin.

00:55:26.000 I can tell you that you can really, a man can really get a chest workout by bench-pressing Senator Baldwin.

00:55:32.000 How is this the person that you guys, I get that you decided on this instead of the old socialist.

00:55:36.000 I was quite happy about it.

00:55:38.000 I'm just going to point out that there's still plenty of time before this election.

00:55:42.000 This is, like, really, there's a lot of talk about the various polling data showing that Joe Biden is up in a lot of these states.

00:55:49.000 Well, he's going to have to rely on a couple of things.

00:55:51.000 One, converting undecideds to vote for Joe Biden.

00:55:54.000 And two, he's going to have to convert, he's going to have to get a lot of black people who stayed home for Hillary Clinton to come out for Joe Biden.

00:56:00.000 On the second one, There are some doubts.

00:56:03.000 There are some doubts.

00:56:04.000 This is not Captain Popularity among Black Americans.

00:56:08.000 The only reason he's popular among Black Americans is because of the halo of Obama that still glows around him.

00:56:14.000 If it were not for Barack Obama, Black Americans would not be particularly friendly to Joe Biden.

00:56:17.000 The man was a sponsor of the 1994 crime bill.

00:56:20.000 He talked extensively about it.

00:56:22.000 He was, as Kamala Harris says, against forced busing, which again was – both these things, by the way, are policies with which I agree.

00:56:27.000 Forced busing is bad policy, and the crime bill was good policy.

00:56:30.000 But that's not exactly going to kind of layer over the racialized narrative the Democrats want to tell.

00:56:36.000 Again, I have to play this clip again because Joe Biden literally saying to black people they're not black unless they vote for him is an incredible pitch.

00:56:43.000 Figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black.

00:56:50.000 unbelievable Unbelievable.

00:56:53.000 Un-be-lievable.

00:56:54.000 Really incredible stuff.

00:56:55.000 Okay, meanwhile, China is heightening its grip on Hong Kong.

00:57:00.000 So while we all fight about stupidity over here, while we all fight about whether Trump is wearing a mask at a Michigan car plant or whatever, There are actual things happening in the world that are incredibly dangerous.

00:57:12.000 China, which, again, we're not supposed to say Wuhan virus, apparently.

00:57:15.000 Very, very racist.

00:57:16.000 Kamala Harris put forward a resolution this week that said if you say Wuhan virus or Chinese virus, it's because you're racist against Chinese Americans, which is insane.

00:57:22.000 Because last I checked, Wuhan is not in America.

00:57:25.000 Chinese Americans are American.

00:57:26.000 And one thing has nothing to do with the other.

00:57:29.000 But the same people who are out there saying Trump is being too mean to China, China, meanwhile, is now Trying to basically overrun Hong Kong.

00:57:36.000 I mean, they're just taking advantage of the pandemic to destroy all opposition in what was supposed to be a free state.

00:57:42.000 When Hong Kong, which is a peninsula on the coast of what used to be China, when Hong Kong was abandoned by the British in what was one of the worst deals in human history, the guarantee was supposed to be that Hong Kong had its own independent government, even if it interacted with the Chinese government on a fairly solid level.

00:57:59.000 It was the idea that they were the same country, but they were basically two different territories governed differently.

00:58:02.000 Hong Kong was supposed to be able to retain fundamental freedoms.

00:58:05.000 China just decided they were going to carve away at that.

00:58:08.000 The latest from the New York Times, China's top leaders on Friday made a show of strength to confront defiance in Hong Kong and the economic damage wrought by the coronavirus outbreak, even as they acknowledged that both had dealt a blow to the ruling Communist Party's agenda.

00:58:20.000 On Hong Kong, the leadership struck a hard line at the annual meeting of China's legislature, unveiling a plan to impose sweeping new security laws that would place the territory more firmly under Beijing's thumb.

00:58:30.000 Well, not if Democrats have anything to do with it, or the NBA, right?

00:58:32.000 But the move is likely to incite more unrest and outrage in the semi-autonomous territory, as well as criticism from abroad.

00:58:37.000 Well, not if Democrats have anything to do with it or the NBA, right?

00:58:41.000 If the NBA criticizes it, then China just cuts them off at the knees.

00:58:44.000 On the economy, the premier, addressing the opening of the National People's Congress, declared the government had achieved a decisive victory against the coronavirus outbreak and that the country had shown great resilience.

00:58:52.000 But in a break with tradition, China abandoned setting an annual growth target for 2020, recognizing the difficulties in restarting its economy amid a pandemic.

00:59:01.000 Premier Li Kequeng, who is the second ranked in the Communist Party hierarchy behind Xi, made his speech to nearly 3,000 Congress delegates who wore masks as they sat in neat rows in the ornate Great Hall of the People.

00:59:11.000 He pledged he'll blunt the impact of the slowdown with goals to limit inflation and unemployment.

00:59:15.000 He said, China will face challenges like never before.

00:59:17.000 However, we have unique political and institutional strengths, a strong economic foundation, enormous market potential, and hundreds of millions of intelligent and hardworking people.

00:59:25.000 The horizons for China's development are full of promise.

00:59:29.000 The Congress outlined the party's plans, disclosed in a surprise move Thursday night, for new laws in Hong Kong to prevent and punish secession, subversion, and foreign infiltration that it has blamed for fueling unrest in the city.

00:59:39.000 The legislation would also allow the mainland's feared security agencies to set up their operations publicly in Hong Kong for the first time.

00:59:45.000 So now, the Chinese Politburo will be running Hong Kong security, which means basically they're now going to imprison or kill anybody who opposes Chinese rule in Hong Kong.

00:59:53.000 So while the rest of the world is deeply disturbed by the power grab happening in Viktor Orban's Hungary, It seems that people are willing to ignore what is going on in China.

01:00:03.000 And to pretend that China's control of the WHO is no big deal.

01:00:06.000 Rachel Maddow has some very strong words about President Trump saying that he is going to defund the WHO unless they stop being a Chinese cat's paw.

01:00:12.000 When was the last time Rachel Maddow spoke out?

01:00:14.000 I don't watch her shows.

01:00:15.000 Maybe it was yesterday, but I doubt it.

01:00:16.000 When was the last time she spoke out about Chinese authoritarianism overtaking the free state of Hong Kong?

01:00:21.000 In a speech detailing the plan, Wang Chen, a Politburo member and first vice chairman of the Congress, pointed to the protesters in Hong Kong who defaced the national flag and surrounded Beijing's offices in the city as posing a threat to China's sovereignty.

01:00:33.000 He also cited long-held suspicions by Beijing that foreign governments had incited the recent protests in Hong Kong, even though evidence to support this is limited.

01:00:40.000 Wang declared, law-based and forceful measures must be taken to prevent, stop, and punish such activities.

01:00:46.000 This, of course, drew immediate alarm in Hong Kong.

01:00:48.000 The Hong Kong stock market slumped more than 5% on Friday.

01:00:53.000 The unusual arrangements for Congress meeting this year reflect continued worries that China has not actually totally contained the outbreak and that they continue to lie to the world.

01:00:59.000 One of the reasons that Hong Kong wasn't that hard hit is because the government of Hong Kong simply did not believe the Chinese government when they said there was no human-to-human transmission.

01:01:08.000 But using the cover of coronavirus in order to destroy the freedom of Hong Kong is an amazingly powerful move.

01:01:16.000 And you're seeing the Chinese do this with the WHO with regard to Taiwan, trying to cut off Taiwan at the knees.

01:01:21.000 China is an evil empire.

01:01:23.000 China is a vicious, vicious, evil government.

01:01:27.000 And to pretend that they are just a responsible actor on the world stage is utterly insane.

01:01:32.000 They are a geopolitical threat to the United States.

01:01:34.000 They are a geopolitical threat to their neighbors.

01:01:36.000 And they are using this opportunity in order to strengthen their grip on a variety of countries in their immediate sphere.

01:01:44.000 If you think that Joe Biden is going to be harsh on the Chinese, you got another thing coming.

01:01:47.000 I have yet to see any evidence that Joe Biden is going to be harsh on China at all.

01:01:50.000 And in fact, it seems like he is spending more time ripping on President Trump for being harsh on China than being harsh on China himself.

01:01:57.000 This should remain a focus of American activity, and if it is not, we are definitely missing the boat when it comes to a geopolitical crisis that is going to be fomented over the course of the coming decade.

01:02:07.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content.

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01:02:20.000 So let's keep that in mind, obviously, as we celebrate a long weekend, and we'll see you here next week.

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