The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - May 07, 2024


A Made-in-Canada Drug Crisis

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Justin Trudeau's drug policy BC decriminalization pilot project recovery resources
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Jamie Schmal
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Justin Trudeau Jamie Schmael Yara Sachs David Eby Tim Hortons David E.B. Cabot
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Another great show lined up for you today, we are going to talk about Justin Trudeau's wacko drug policy. To talk about that and much more, we bring on Layla Goodridge, the Member of Parliament for Fort McMurray-Cold Lake and the Shadow Minister for Addictions.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprint. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your
00:00:09.240 host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton Court, the likes Brock, with new
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00:00:17.280 subscribe, and share this program. People can also download this content on platforms like
00:00:22.540 CastBox, iTunes, Google Play, and Spotify. You name it, it is out there. Another great show lined
00:00:27.500 up for you today. We are going to talk about Justin Trudeau's wacko drug policy. To talk
00:00:32.560 about that and much, much more, we bring on once again Layla Goodridge, the Member of Parliament
00:00:36.980 for Fort McMurray-Cold Lake. Thanks again for coming on. Also the Shadow Minister for Addictions.
00:00:41.660 Thank you, Jamie.
00:00:42.580 All right, we got an absolute wacko policy that's taking in full view of everyone out in British
00:00:50.740 Columbia where they have decriminalized the use of hard drugs in public places and now we're
00:00:56.240 seeing a bit of a backlash. Regular citizens who might have been kind of looking at this and
00:01:02.100 saying, okay, maybe I can give this a go, see what it looks like. Now there seems to be a full
00:01:07.520 retreat on that policy, but yet Justin Trudeau seems to be taking a sweet old time despite the
00:01:12.600 thousands who are dying. Well, exactly, and it's really interesting. So in British Columbia, basically
00:01:17.800 what they did is they went so many steps further by allowing the effective legalization of crack,
00:01:27.300 heroin, fentanyl, and so many other drugs. And that was wacko in itself. And that was wacko just
00:01:33.260 in and of itself. And they did it on a three-year pilot project with British Columbia. British Columbia,
00:01:39.100 10 days ago, actually 11 days ago, said, please, please rescue us. This is failing. There is open
00:01:47.380 drug use on beaches where people are smoking crack cocaine and the police have no tools to deal with
00:01:53.100 it. There are people smoking meth in the hospitals, making nurses fear for their safety, making them 0.57
00:02:00.940 change their decisions as to whether they're going to breastfeed their children or not because
00:02:04.280 they're routinely exposed to drugs in the workplace. And so the B.C. NDP extremist premier, David E.B.,
00:02:12.720 goes, please, please, please rescue us. And now we're 11 days in. Crickets. And we also had a
00:02:21.480 reversal a few weeks before that, I believe, in the state of Oregon, probably one of the most left-wing
00:02:26.940 states, I would say, in the United States, saying they're going to reconsider and backtrack from
00:02:32.840 their decriminalization policies. Well, exactly. And this is part of the problem. This isn't just
00:02:39.020 decriminalization, as the left would like you to think. No, this is a step towards legalization.
00:02:43.840 This is making it legal to smoke crack on the street in front of kids. This is making it legal
00:02:51.340 to smoke meth in a hospital. You can't smoke a cigarette in the hospital, but you can somehow smoke
00:02:58.120 crack or meth in a hospital. And the police have no tools to deal with this. And that's because of
00:03:05.800 this prime minister and his wacko drug policy. And it's not because they took this route because
00:03:12.000 David Eby, the premier of British Columbia, or Justin Trudeau became hard-charging libertarians
00:03:16.700 here. This is not why they did this whole thing. And yet we're seeing thousands of people
00:03:22.440 struggling with addictions, unfortunately dying. We're seeing a stress on the healthcare system.
00:03:29.120 We're seeing stress on law enforcement. And they just refuse to backtrack.
00:03:34.360 Well, and this comes at the precipice of British Columbia having its highest ever number of people
00:03:41.260 that have died due to overdose deaths. And that's just overdose deaths. That's not the people that get
00:03:45.560 stabbed to death in front of their family at a Starbucks from someone that is high. That is not
00:03:51.780 all of the other people that are hurt because of this policy. And the failure to recognize that
00:03:59.120 this is an issue, an act, is an abject failure of leadership on the most epic proportions and proves
00:04:06.100 that these policies are wacko. They are ideological. And this is not about anything other than pure
00:04:13.500 politics from this prime minister. He has the NDP premier, who is an extreme NDP, begging for them to
00:04:21.600 have action. And like I said, crickets. But it's because EB's numbers went down. Again, he's not a
00:04:27.660 hard-charging libertarian. He changed course because the policies were very unpopular. And they got a
00:04:33.640 provincial election coming up. Well, that, but they've also been able to see, and we've had it in our
00:04:38.840 health committee. We've been studying the opioid crisis in our health committee the last number of
00:04:44.340 months. And we had the deputy commissioner from Vancouver City Police come and talk about the fact
00:04:50.380 that they did not have the tools and she would want exceptions to the exemption to give them the
00:04:55.800 tools so they could charge someone for smoking crack in a hospital or meth on a beach or shoot up
00:05:03.360 heroin and Tim Hortons. We heard that very clearly just a few weeks ago in health committee. And so I
00:05:08.880 think that is part of why David Eby, it's not just that it's unpopular. It's because he's starting to hear
00:05:13.900 very clearly from law enforcement that co-signed this horrible, failed, wacko policy that this isn't
00:05:22.100 working and they need help. They need to be rescued. Let's cue up cut one. So we have the addictions
00:05:26.440 minister, Yara Sachs, who is a horrible minister, absolutely horrible at her file. Basically, it's
00:05:33.380 under review, that request to return. They hold the pen. They hold the pen. They hold the pen. It's under review.
00:05:38.760 Let's play cut one.
00:05:43.760 We received the request on Friday and it's under review by Health Canada.
00:05:46.760 What is the deadline? How long? How long is it going to take?
00:05:48.760 We are still under review.
00:05:49.760 And how long?
00:05:50.760 We're still under review.
00:05:52.760 Can you quantify because BC says this is urgent?
00:05:54.760 We understand the urgency.
00:05:56.760 The opposition says that you're not ruling out further decriminalizing our drugs. Is that true?
00:06:01.760 We are reviewing their requests at this time. Our focus is that this is a health issue and we do not want to see a
00:06:07.760 criminalization of people who need health care.
00:06:09.760 They aren't talking about treatment at all.
00:06:12.760 No.
00:06:13.760 Not one time in the house. Does that minister ever talk about treatment?
00:06:17.760 No. And to make matters even worse, we have the city of Toronto who is pitching their own
00:06:24.760 legalization model despite major noise and criticism from the province of Ontario. And they won't just say no.
00:06:31.760 They won't say no, we will only work with provinces. We get one message from one Toronto minister, the Minister of Finance.
00:06:39.760 We have a different minister from Toronto, Yara Sachs, give a different answer.
00:06:45.760 We have the Prime Minister give yet another answer.
00:06:47.760 So what is the answer? Canadians don't know, but the answer isn't no.
00:06:51.760 That's right. But we did actually get an idea of what's in their head.
00:06:57.760 Potentially the former addictions minister, which you did a bit of work at committee many moons ago.
00:07:03.760 But the fact that it's on record that they would reconsider potentially backtracking on their policy.
00:07:10.760 That was the old minute. That was the old way of thinking. That was the old way.
00:07:14.760 Old way of thinking with someone who was a bit of an expert, who was a medical doctor before she got into politics,
00:07:21.760 who clearly understood that you had to take into account both public safety and public health.
00:07:26.760 Now it's just pure ideology. They're going to go full steam ahead because they can't.
00:07:32.760 All right. Let's cut two. This gives you an idea of the Liberals' mindset about ten minutes ago.
00:07:39.760 And then we'll understand why we're at the point we are now. Play cut two.
00:07:44.760 So what criteria are being used to measure the success of BC's decriminalization pilot project?
00:07:51.760 There are six criteria that were part of the application.
00:07:56.760 What are they?
00:07:58.760 The increase in health and social services, continued stakeholder engagement, public education, law enforcement,
00:08:06.760 engagement with Indigenous peoples, and robust evaluation and research as we go forward.
00:08:13.760 So do you commit to stopping decriminalization should these outcomes not be achieved?
00:08:17.760 Absolutely. We have always said that if this isn't working,
00:08:20.760 both on the public health indicators and the public safety indicators, we will be watching those.
00:08:27.760 On that criteria alone, we should be able to have the Prime Minister to shut this down.
00:08:33.760 Well, and it's not like it's just the opposition asking for this.
00:08:37.760 This is the NDP Premier saying, rescue us from this failed policy.
00:08:44.760 And this just goes to show that none of that is being taken into account.
00:08:48.760 The fact that they are 10 days, 11 days in, still analyzing the data and won't give us a date.
00:08:55.760 Wouldn't just say yes and figure out the details afterwards shows that they don't care.
00:09:00.760 Because this is something that is supported by our NDP liberal coalition government here in Ottawa.
00:09:07.760 Because the NDP here in Ottawa think this is brilliant.
00:09:11.760 They want to see this expanded all across the entire country.
00:09:13.760 And they think this is the panacea to the drug issue.
00:09:17.760 This is absolutely wacko. 0.97
00:09:19.760 I still don't understand their logic about that, right?
00:09:23.760 I just can't figure out their path when the sad part of this all, the unfortunate deaths,
00:09:30.760 the thousands of people who have lost family members, friends, you name it.
00:09:35.760 And there seems to be no reversal or even thought to reverse it.
00:09:40.760 It's just full steam ahead.
00:09:42.760 Well, and this is part of the major challenge.
00:09:46.760 We're talking about brothers and sisters and moms and dads and cousins and neighbors and family
00:09:53.760 that are dying every single day in British Columbia.
00:09:56.760 And yet we don't hear any urgency.
00:10:00.760 They're just so committed to continuing with this plan
00:10:03.760 that the Premier, police, law enforcement are saying isn't working.
00:10:09.760 And they just are so committed to seeing this through and using the guise of,
00:10:13.760 oh, this is a pilot project.
00:10:15.760 Well, exactly, it's a pilot project.
00:10:17.760 And so they could just say, we were wrong.
00:10:20.760 We have to reevaluate.
00:10:22.760 We'll figure out the details.
00:10:24.760 But instead, they want to make this about politics.
00:10:26.760 They want to make this about proving that somehow this is more compassionate.
00:10:31.760 And we know, conservatives, common sense conservatives know,
00:10:34.760 that the compassionate way to approach this issue is with treatment and recovery, detox,
00:10:40.760 not more taxpayer-funded drugs, not a free license to cause crime and chaos on our street.
00:10:47.760 It's through treatment and recovery.
00:10:50.760 So what if the City of Toronto gets their way?
00:10:52.760 We're going to see more crime and chaos.
00:10:55.760 We're going to see more despair, more destruction.
00:10:58.760 What we really need is a common sense conservative government to come in
00:11:03.760 and really put the emphasis on treatment, recovery, detox.
00:11:09.760 And because really, at the end of the day, the difference is that conservatives,
00:11:16.760 we believe that recovery from addiction is possible.
00:11:19.760 And I don't think that the Liberal NDP coalition thinks that it's possible.
00:11:24.760 Well, even on the criminal justice side, we have new legislation that has been brought forward
00:11:28.760 in the recent years that has basically made it a revolving door justice system.
00:11:33.760 So even if you have people out there repeat violent offenders or dealers, that kind of thing,
00:11:39.760 even if the police arrest them, they seem to be back on the streets within hours or days, right?
00:11:44.760 This is a circle that you can't break from.
00:11:48.760 Well, and under this insane legalization in British Columbia,
00:11:55.760 what it's made it is it's tied the hands of police so that they can't charge for flagrant open drug use.
00:12:02.760 They can't do anything when they have people in these positions.
00:12:06.760 There is, like, lawlessness.
00:12:08.760 So if you were a smoker, you would have more restrictions on what you could and couldn't do to smoke tobacco
00:12:15.760 than you have on smoking meth or crack.
00:12:19.760 That is wacko! 0.99
00:12:21.760 And even law-abiding people, they bring their families in the park, they go out to play,
00:12:26.760 they're looking at needles potentially.
00:12:28.760 We've seen multiple reports, people doing open drugs.
00:12:31.760 Like, how do they feel?
00:12:32.760 They've done everything right.
00:12:33.760 They paid their taxes, followed every law, and they have to endure this.
00:12:38.760 Well, and this is part of the huge issue that we're seeing is you go through almost any community in British Columbia right now,
00:12:48.760 and there are playgrounds, children's playgrounds, that are supposed to be safe places for kids to be able to go play and be kids,
00:12:55.760 are littered with needles.
00:12:57.760 There are crack pipes strewn about, so glass with drugs on them, just strewn about.
00:13:04.760 Parents are having to do sweeps, which is meaning that the kids just can't go to the playground and be kids.
00:13:10.760 It's requiring communities to come together.
00:13:13.760 We've heard that Abbotsford Soccer Association has had to do major sweeps of the field just so that kids can play soccer.
00:13:19.760 This is absolutely inhumane that we have accepted as a society that open drug use has become an absolute free-for-all.
00:13:31.760 That was not what this was supposed to be, and the Prime Minister holds a pen.
00:13:34.760 The Prime Minister could end this tomorrow. The Prime Minister could have ended this ten days ago.
00:13:38.760 He could have ended this a year ago.
00:13:40.760 But instead, he is committed to pushing forward with this failed policy because he can.
00:13:47.760 And that's wrong.
00:13:49.760 Yeah, it's almost as if the Prime Minister doesn't want to take that step back to admit he's right.
00:13:53.760 Or, sorry, he's wrong.
00:13:54.760 Well, I think this is part of the problem.
00:13:56.760 That we're right and he's wrong.
00:13:58.760 And the Prime Minister is so committed to this failed, wacko policy that he won't just take the opportunity to humble himself, 0.99
00:14:09.760 admit to Canadians, you know what?
00:14:11.760 This was a pilot project.
00:14:12.760 We tried it.
00:14:13.760 It's not working.
00:14:14.760 We made a mistake.
00:14:15.760 We're going to do better.
00:14:16.760 No, this is the Prime Minister that's all about divide, wedge, stigmatize, and create all of these problems.
00:14:24.760 And that is the fundamentals of where we're at, why we are where we are.
00:14:30.760 Oh, absolutely.
00:14:31.760 I don't think this Prime Minister has said sorry or taken anything back that he's ever done.
00:14:35.760 That's since he's lavelling the trips to billionaires.
00:14:37.760 You know, the list goes on.
00:14:38.760 Anyway, we're pretty much out of time.
00:14:40.760 But as you know, the guests get the last word.
00:14:41.760 The floor is yours.
00:14:42.760 Well, the number one last word is if you're struggling with addiction, reach out.
00:14:47.760 If you need some help, if you've listened to this, if you've got a family member that is struggling, you're not alone.
00:14:53.760 Reach out for help because recovery is possible.
00:14:57.760 We believe that people are capable of recovering.
00:15:00.760 People recover every day.
00:15:01.760 And so they just need the support.
00:15:04.760 If you need support, reach out.
00:15:06.760 There's lots of resources available.
00:15:08.760 And we have the new tip line as well.
00:15:10.760 The helpline, I should say.
00:15:11.760 Yeah.
00:15:12.760 And so if there's all kinds of different concerns, and so we'll have that shared up on the screen, some of the different resources you can access if you or a loved one is struggling with an addiction.
00:15:22.760 Absolutely.
00:15:23.760 Thank you very much.
00:15:24.760 Leila Goodridge.
00:15:25.760 Thank you.
00:15:26.760 For Fort McMurray, Cold Lake, also the shadow minister for addictions.
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