A Win for Canada’s energy workers – The No-More-Pipelines Bill is No More!
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On today's show, we discuss Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines Bill, deemed largely unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, the shutdown of the Arrive Can investigation at committee, and of course, the war in the Middle East.
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Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm
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your host, Jamie Schmael, member of Parliament for Halliburton, co-author-like Sprock. On
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today's show, we're talking about Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines bill, deemed largely
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unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Also talk about the shutdown of the Arrive Can
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investigation at committee, and of course, the war in the Middle East. This and much,
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much more, we're bringing on the two legends. We have Glenn Motz, Medicine Hat Carson Warner. He's
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the member of Parliament for that writing, and of course, the one and only Larry Brock,
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Brantford Brant. Thank you, gentlemen. And of course, don't forget to remind our audience to
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like, comment, subscribe, and share this program. All right, we've got lots to talk about. Let's
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get right to it. What do you want to talk about first? C-69, the No More Pipelines bill, deemed
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largely unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, something we actually warned about many years
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ago. Absolutely. You know, it was a vindication for many people in the industry and conservative
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members of Parliament who spoke out and said, this is exactly, this is unconstitutional,
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it's provincial territory, provincial jurisdiction. And the province, you know, said very, very clearly,
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and the courts then agreed, the Alberta Court of Appeal, and then the Supreme Court, that the
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feds overreached. Again, you know, they tried to strong arm their way into something that, rather
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than, you know, having a conversation, having consultation on the matter, they pushed their
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way in. And, you know, it's cost Alberta and other economies in our country, provincial economies,
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billions and billions of dollars in lost investment. So it was a great vindication for
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that, and I think optimistic moving forward. And again, I don't trust this government, though,
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with what they might do with the decision and how they might want to change things, again,
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moving forward down the line. But we're not going to give them an opportunity to do that.
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We're going to remove them from government first. When the government first brought in Bill C-69,
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they said it would bring certainty to the investment around oil and natural gas. It's done anything
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but that. It's actually chased away hundreds of billions of dollars worth of investment, not including
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using their tanker ban that forbids Alberta energy from leaving the West Coast. Not the East Coast,
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they're bringing in from the East Coast, only leaving from the West Coast. So basically stifling the
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industry as a whole. And now the Supreme Court weighs in and says, yeah, you've overstepped your jurisdiction.
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You're right. You know, and the only certainty that this government guaranteed
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is that we would lose investment. That's the only certainty that was going to come with this.
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And, no, so it's, I mean, I applaud the decision. There's a lot to go through in that decision.
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I haven't gone through all of it yet. But, you know, I think the provinces should be pleased.
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And I think the government should be given pause on, you know, there's a lot of other things
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they're trying to insert themselves in that are provincial jurisdiction. And I think this should
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give them pause on pursuing down a path that is unconstitutional.
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Now, it's easy for us to talk about it after the fact and remind liberals and others in the media
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that we were talking about this way before this even passed royal assent. And we reminded about
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what would happen and the consequences of this piece of legislation. But at the real core of it,
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there's a lot of people who lost their jobs or livelihoods in their homes because of this legislation.
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Absolutely. And, you know, our conservative critic, MP Shannon Stubbs, has spoken about this at length
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for several years now, and has warned government initially, and then spoken about the impact this
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has had, not just on the provincial economy, but, you know, people's livelihoods and their ability
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to care for their families. And, you know, businesses were lost, investment fled the provinces,
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and now we have to try and, you know, get that back again and get Canada's economy working again,
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all because a government has an ideology that, you know, is against any sort of natural resource development.
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Well, let's bring Larry into that. We talked about the many times about the leaked memo
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where energy workers, as they get transitioned out of their chosen field, they can work as janitors
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if they so choose, right? Like this is how the Liberals view the energy industry in particular
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in Alberta and Saskatchewan. And that shows exactly where their mindset is, right? If it's not the chosen
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path that the Liberals want, they will destroy it.
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Yes. And in my view, it is that that Supreme Court of Canada decision is an absolute repudiation of
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Justin Trudeau's anti-energy policies. That has existed literally since he was elected in 2015.
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And quite frankly, this piece of legislation was introduced very early into his mandate,
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and it was almost as if he wanted to transition this country to be anti-Steven Harper. Anything that
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Stephen Harper did that benefited this country, Justin Trudeau wanted to undo it. And this particular piece
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of legislation is a classic example. So it's a repudiation of that philosophy, of that policy,
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and it confirms what we were saying all along in the House. It confirms what the provinces were saying,
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that this is our exclusive jurisdiction. You feds have no business interfering.
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And you have all these people who have lost their livelihoods, as we just mentioned. But also,
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going forward, what kind of confidence does this put in the marketplace around investors that are
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looking for a spot to put their money to develop resources, whether it be oil, natural gas, you name
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it, whatever, critical minerals? It doesn't really still instill any confidence that there will be a
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return on investment in a timely fashion. No, that confidence, in my view, will only be restored
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once we defeat this liberal, incompetent government and put in Pierre Polyev as our Prime Minister.
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Agreed. Our favorite MP to pick on, and rightfully so, Mark Gerritsen of Kingston and the Islands,
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put up a bit of a rant over the weekend about how energy prices and the reason why they're so high
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isn't the fault of the Liberals. And he did mention about the conflict in the Middle East and in Ukraine
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and a whole bunch of other disruptions around the world. But what he failed to realize is how the
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Liberals have decimated our energy industry. And one way to lower prices is to add supply
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to the marketplace, which has been disrupted because of ongoing conflicts. We have lots of
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supply here. We just have no way to get it out of the ground and get it to market in a timely and
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I guess I hit the nail on the head. Well, you did.
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All right. Yeah. That's sad because we have high paying jobs. These aren't
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low paying jobs in the energy industry. These are high paying jobs. It's the same problem too,
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that you can't get critical minerals out of the ground here, particularly in Northern Ontario and
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elsewhere, Saskatchewan and what have you, where if the Liberals are saying, we are going to EVs,
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and again, this is the chosen path, never mind the solid state battery for Toyota,
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hydrogen and others over in Germany. This is where the chosen subsidies are going,
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but we can't get the minerals out of the ground here in Canada to make a supply chain that works domestically.
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The regulatory process for natural resource, you know, development, research and development,
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has been so stymied by this government. And that's exactly the result of it is we have supply issues,
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not what we have in the ground, but to get it to market. And then, you know, as we heard, as we know
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from, you know, the Prime Minister kiboshing both the Germany request and the Japan request for our
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natural gas. Like what a game changer that would have been, right? So, yeah, it's the regulatory process
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has been, you know, the industry's undoing with this government's ideology. Absolutely. And,
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and again, when you're trying to have a domestic energy industry, stifling it or making it harder
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to get projects through will only create wealth elsewhere. Let's create it here if this is going
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down. All right. So, the Arrive Can app. Larry Brock, famously in committee, was giving a few hard
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questions to the powers that be and they didn't like it. And after 20 minutes of a emergency
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committee meeting, you were shut down. So, what was going on in that Arrive Can meeting?
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It just, it amazes me the number of scandals this corrupt government has been embroiled in since 2015.
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And I uncovered, along with my Conservative colleagues, yet another one last Thursday. Let's remember what
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happened. What a year ago, the Conservative Party brought forth a motion in the House calling for
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the Auditor General to do a review of the $54 million boondoggle of the Arrive Scam app,
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as we now call it. Not the Arrive Can, but the Arrive Scam app. It passed the House. Liberals, of course,
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voted against it because they don't believe in transparency and accountability. So, I was asked last
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Thursday to attend the Public Accounts Committee to participate in a Q&A with our Auditor General.
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The Auditor General, of course, is about to release her report into the circumstances
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behind the awarding of that contract. But as a result of recent news releases regarding the RCMP
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now investigating circumstances behind the granting of the contract and the consultants used by the
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Government of Canada to facilitate these contracts, it caused our chair, John Williamson, our Conservative
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Chair, to call an emergency meeting. It was agreed by the House, by the members of the committee. It was a
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two-hour meeting. So, I was not part of the first round. I was part of the second round. I had a five-minute
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Q&A with the Auditor General. And she surprised all of us by informing the House that, to her amazement,
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she didn't know that the RCMP was investigating criminality with respect to the awarding of the
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contracts. She didn't hear it until she read it in the Globe and Mail. And I thought to myself, the
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government certainly knew about this several weeks, if not months, before the news broke in the press.
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Why wouldn't the government notify its own Auditor General that there is an additional layer that
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perhaps needs to be explored regarding the RCMP looking at criminal charges? She wasn't aware. She
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described her disenchantment, the fact that she wasn't pleased, that she didn't hear it from the
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government. And I said to the Auditor General, not only are you disappointed, I said all parliamentarians
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should be disappointed, but more importantly, Canadian taxpayers should be profoundly disappointed that
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this government, who has vowed to be transparent and accountable at every turn since 2015, has done
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nothing but. And literally after I finished my five minutes of questioning, the next question went to
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the Liberal bench and the Liberals brought a motion supported by the NDP to shut down the Auditor General's
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two-hour meeting without any further accountability. So it obviously begs the question, what are you
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hiding now? But I can see the advantage for the Liberal Party for shutting down the meeting. What
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about the NDP? What is their logic? What's their strategy here? Their strategy is it's just they blindly
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follow the government when it comes to... Don't they want to win or try to win? They have lost their
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identity, Jamie. With all due respect, they have completely lost... You're not going to offend me.
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They've lost their principles. They've lost their values. They will roar loudly in the House if they
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feel the government is underperforming and not meeting to Canadians' expectations, and then they'll blindly
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vote in favour of this government. So I have no doubt in my mind that somehow the lone Liberal member,
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sorry, the lone NDP member on that committee was instructed to go along with that particular...
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Do you want to name and shame? Should we name and shame?
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We could name and shame. I'm just trying to remember the member now. It may come to me.
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All right. At 2 in the morning, it'll come to you. It may come to me.
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All right. So this is an app that some independent designers put their heads together on a weekend
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and said they could do it for $250,000, give or take. The Liberals said $54 million. That seems like
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a bargain to me. Is there any responsibility? Like, is there any responsibility for these tax dollars?
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Since government has nothing until it's taxed from somebody. Exactly.
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So taken from somebody who put in a hard day's work and then, yeah, $54 million sounds like a good deal.
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You know, and thank you for your efforts on that committee, Larry. It really brought a lot of
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things home for me. You know, we all lived through the pandemic and the governments,
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they had all this money. You know, they had the will of Parliament to spend. And what did they do?
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They spent indiscriminately. They spent on a lot of things that we agreed as Conservatives that were
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necessary to keep businesses and individuals, you know, financially sound. But the Arrive scam app
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is certainly an example of the wastefulness. And we can go through literally billions of dollars.
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And the Auditor General said before that there is how many billions of dollars unaccounted for
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in COVID spending? Yes. 40%. 40% of what? $200 billion? $200 billion. And we don't even know where
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it went. So, I mean, to me, the Arrive scam app is but just a tip of the iceberg when it comes to
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mismanagement of this government's finances, the Canadian taxpayers' finances.
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So not only is it a scandal, Jamie, in my view, it also exposes the hypocrisy of this Prime Minister.
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If you remember, after it was discovered that this price tag was $54 million, he expressed
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his shock. He expressed his concern. In fact, his exact words, that price tag was highly logical,
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is the phrase that he used in the House. Yet, it's illogical enough for him to say that it should
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be investigated. But when the RCMP is now looking at criminality involving top senior bureaucrats with
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the government of Canada, that's something that the taxpayers should not be exposed to. So there is a
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scandal here. I will continue to dig. I'm like a dog with a bone. I will continue to pursue this until we
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can shed all of that light on this particular issue. Now, credit to the Liberals though.
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Have you been to the airport lately? So the Nexus line is super small, like in terms of how many terminals.
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The regular line for when you're coming through to check in on an international flight is a little bit bigger,
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but it's still pretty small. And then in the RiveCAN side, it is massive, but it's empty.
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Nobody is using this app, but they are almost doing it on purpose to force people to try, just like,
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somebody please use the app and we'll, we have all these machines for you to check yourself through.
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Exactly. This is how desperate they are. It is unbelievable. All right, Middle East. Israel attacked, I guess,
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last week. Hamas coming in surprising many, massacring and murdering people at a music festival for peace.
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What are your thoughts, I guess, to the victims? We need to recognize that. And where do we go from here?
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Where do we go from here? Oh, you know, it's sad when you have, you know, a legitimately identified
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terrorist organization attack civilians in a sovereign state. And then the, you know, the extreme
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sadistic violence that has occurred as a result of this. And this whole anti, you know, Semitism,
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this whole, you know, the attack on the Jewish state is, is, is brutal. And then, and then now,
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you know, we, we care about all victims on both sides of this, the civilians on both sides of this
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conflict. And, and certainly our, our, our support is with the, with Israel and, and, you know, and it's,
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it's, it's a conflict that has gone on off and on for, for decades. And certainly this does not appear
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to be ending anytime or will end anytime soon. And just a sad state of, of evil. I mean, there's no
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other, I had, I had talked to someone this past weekend about this, you know, the terrorist attack.
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And the word that they used was, this was pure evil. When you look at the acts, when you, when you see
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and read about the, the atrocities that were perpetrated on innocent Jewish civilians,
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is, is unfathomable. And it, it is something that this world should not tolerate.
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I will do a deeper dive on, on this topic on another show. But I, I did want to recognize
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it and mention it because it is an ongoing issue. And we talk about current events here.
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And it would be remiss, I think, if we didn't mention it. And again, we'll do a deeper dive
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on another show where we can have more time. I know we're coming to the end of our show here.
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Question periods coming up. So we have to get going. Final thoughts, gentlemen, who wants to take it away?
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I just want to comment on the Middle East situation. My, my thoughts and prayers are with all the victims,
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the victims' families, the, the Canadians who've lost their lives, Americans who've lost their lives,
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up to 200, if not more, hostages still in Gaza. This is something that has just rocked our collective
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core as, as human beings. And I just wanted to, to, to pass that on as my final thoughts. Thank you, Jamie.
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Glenn? I think that the last thing I'll say is, you know, we heard last week about the, the
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government's retraction. They're, they're holding off on their firearm confiscation. And I think it's,
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it's, it's just, you know, what we've been saying all along is it's a failed plan on public safety.
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It isn't going to work. We don't support, as Conservatives, we do not support the confiscation
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of lawfully obtained firearms by legally, you know, legal firearm owners. And the, you know,
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the billions of dollars that were, you know, planned to be spent on a confiscation plan that
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delivers themselves, don't even know how they're going to play out, could be better spent, you know,
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in, in matters of border enforcement and, and other programs to, to ensure that criminals are dealt with
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You know what? That's another show as well. We can talk about the, uh, the firearm boondoggle,
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and, uh, we will save that for another show because that's a great idea. All right. I apologize for
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Well, and, and the pontification by my colleague here, Mr. Brock is, uh, is amazing. I always,
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Yes, I, I am, I am in extreme awe at both your conversations. All right. We have Glenn Motts,
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Madison Hat, Cards to Mourner, as his writing in beautiful province of Alberta. Also, Larry Brock,
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the member of parliament for Brantford Brant. We thank them both for their time. We thank you
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