The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - Burdens on Canadian Communities

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your

00:00:07.160 host jamie schmale member of parliament for halliburton for the lakes brock thank you once

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00:00:26.280 box itunes google play spotify you name it it is out there today aaron o'toole announced his new

00:00:32.560 shadow cabinet you can check out the link at conservative.ca one of those ministers is coming

00:00:37.280 on the show here today a familiar face and a good friend of the show andrew sheer member of parliament

00:00:41.700 for regina capelli is also the shadow minister for infrastructure and communities welcome back again

00:00:47.120 thanks for joining us thanks very much jamie always great to come on your show so we can discuss very

00:00:52.780 important issues that are facing canadians absolutely and um i want to thank you for your

00:00:57.900 ongoing support of this show uh you've been a great supporter and uh someone i really appreciate

00:01:03.040 so i want to start right off because so much has been happening let's start with cop 26 so i'll just

00:01:10.520 read the headlines here ctv news headline uh trudeau moves on to pledge a cap to oil and gas emissions

00:01:17.780 and it goes on capping oil and gas emissions in canada what that doesn't stop demand uh what what

00:01:25.180 happens well what it means is that other countries will fill the void that canada is going to create

00:01:32.720 with their products and when we think about those other countries we we we can look at places like

00:01:38.500 saudi arabia uh like venezuela uh like algeria and our largest trading partner but also our competitors

00:01:46.680 the united states and uh what justin trudeau has effectively announced is a one-sided double

00:01:53.220 standard where he has attacked western canadian oil and gas he has he has not said that any other

00:01:58.880 industry in this country is going to have a hard cap he's basically telling the western provinces that

00:02:03.520 you can't grow that you're not going to have that economic growth uh that uh that that that we come to

00:02:09.100 expect in our country uh and and it's it's pretty devastating it's it's it's been a gut punch here in

00:02:13.840 saskatchewan and uh as you can predict you know our premier the premier of alberta have have come

00:02:18.660 out uh very aggressively against this uh our saskatchewan caucuses all come out very aggressively

00:02:23.480 about this it just makes no sense for him to single out and and attack western canada and canadian oil

00:02:29.160 and gas the way uh just that justin trudeau has well we can still import oil on our east coast well

00:02:35.580 that's that that's that's the that's the part of this where like i actually have like a i have a

00:02:40.960 physical reaction like i get so frustrated that sometimes like it hurts that in addition to being

00:02:47.760 grossly unfair and treating western canada just so horribly it also makes no sense because you're

00:02:56.820 absolutely right uh jamie not only will global markets be filled by our competitors like saudi arabia

00:03:03.400 and the united states but our own domestic markets will uh we have refineries in eastern canada

00:03:09.120 most notably in st john's new brunswick that is that that are supplied by foreign oil uh the the

00:03:16.240 refineries in st john's in in new brunswick is primarily fed a huge intake of of of their source

00:03:23.600 is from saudi arabia and what we're saying is that no you'll never get a west to east pipeline now

00:03:29.600 under justin trudeau we'll never be able to build a western a pipeline that takes western canadian energy

00:03:35.240 to displace that foreign oil what he's basically telling canadians is we're going to be sending

00:03:39.820 canadian dollars overseas we're going to make saudi arabia stronger and canada weaker by buying

00:03:46.440 their energy instead of keeping our dollars here at home putting canadians to work uh investing in

00:03:52.080 canadian infrastructure and benefiting canadians retirement savings and pension plans that are all

00:03:57.720 invested in canada's energy sector we're saying all of that is going to get trudeau saying all of that

00:04:02.720 is going to get weaker and other countries are going to get stronger because of this this policy

00:04:07.520 it just makes no sense so did i somehow miss the memo that saudi arabia all of a sudden the

00:04:12.360 nicaraguas and all the others suddenly went uh green suddenly got better in their labor practices and

00:04:17.960 their environmental standards did i miss something that somehow canada has fallen behind well if you

00:04:23.060 missed it then so did i jimmy because uh there's there's no indication ever that these countries

00:04:28.220 take any of uh of the same approach when it comes to to issues as it relates to in the environment

00:04:35.000 or as you rightly point out human rights you know uh we look at saudi arabia and we see what they do

00:04:41.020 to women what they do to religious minorities uh we see what happens to uh to people who speak out

00:04:46.600 against the regime uh these these are horrible uh uh human rights abusers and yet uh just in

00:04:54.960 justin trudeau's world it makes total sense to send canadian dollars overseas to purchase their

00:04:59.780 energy make them richer allow them to invest in their military allow them to have a higher quality

00:05:05.120 of life for their citizens and and literally enriching the royal family uh of of saudi arabia you know

00:05:11.740 there's all kinds of stories about how they amass massive amounts of of money and justin trudeau thinks

00:05:17.760 it makes sense for you to pay a buck 50 a buck 75 a liter so you can send that overseas uh you know

00:05:24.460 the other countries must be laughing at canada right now you know it's no other country in the

00:05:29.800 world would would do this to themselves would kneecap themselves at the and make their competitors

00:05:35.300 better off um look look at joe biden in the united states i mean uh this administration has been

00:05:41.860 very very difficult for canada uh not even a year into it first thing he did was cancel uh the keystone

00:05:48.960 excel pipeline we've had issues with line five uh and now joe biden goes out to the world and and begs

00:05:56.020 these these these countries that are human rights abusers to to increase production of oil and gas

00:06:03.040 to fill the american consumer market uh hey uh guess what mr president uh we are your largest

00:06:10.820 trading partner we are your nato ally we have similar standards when it comes to the environment labor law

00:06:17.340 uh protection of of uh of human rights and oh by the way we have a vertically integrated

00:06:22.440 you know an integrated uh uh economy where uh your suppliers help our our development and vice versa

00:06:29.580 uh we could supply your energy needs but we've got a president united states that that that it talks

00:06:34.920 down and attacks western canadian energy and then we have a prime minister that that does it too so

00:06:39.380 it's it's really putting us in a very difficult spot in in canada that's why you're seeing some of

00:06:44.440 these comments coming from western canada really questioning um what what to do when you're part

00:06:50.360 of a country that that just treats us so terribly it doesn't not only doesn't seem to care about the

00:06:55.660 difficulties that we're going through but is the cause of the problem that that that's creating so

00:07:01.020 much hardship out here when your own federal government is attacking you it makes it very very

00:07:05.460 difficult absolutely because as you pointed out it's not market forces that is causing this to happen

00:07:10.440 is it is the boot of government on the neck of the industry and it's it really is amazing we regulate

00:07:16.360 our ports to no end we we hamper development in our own country and not only oil and gas look at the

00:07:22.040 mining sector look at lumber that that was having problems prior to covid and and now we've seen uh what

00:07:27.520 happens after the pandemic if it's not dealt with properly so there are some major anchor industries and

00:07:33.260 our economic powerhouse that are that are just on their knees right now and and these are like you said

00:07:39.620 providing real jobs real opportunity more wealth for for canadians that we we just somehow are

00:07:45.220 kneecapping ourselves unnecessarily yeah you're so right jamie and uh you know when i when when we're

00:07:51.620 approaching the uh the environment and natural resources going in the 2019 election one of the

00:07:56.880 things that really helped guide our environmental policy was the the basic understanding of of a couple

00:08:02.900 things first of all the percentage of greenhouse gas emissions that are there uh uh are there because

00:08:10.080 of human activity uh so that's a certain percentage and then you take the uh the percentage of that that

00:08:16.020 canada contributes and and you're and you start dealing with a percentage of a percentage of a

00:08:19.740 percentage and looking at that economic cost here in canada the the the the misery that that some of

00:08:25.840 these draconian measures will will will cause here at home versus the the amount of reductions that will

00:08:32.040 actually be achieved you have to approach that through that lens the second thing you have to

00:08:36.240 do is you have to look and see what other countries are doing because we could shut everything off you

00:08:40.720 know every canadian could could could agree that we're you know we're gonna shut everything off for a

00:08:46.160 you know a month we're not gonna drive we're not gonna heat our homes we're not gonna run our

00:08:50.440 refrigerators we could shut everything off in canada and you know china's emissions i i would would dwarf us in

00:08:57.840 in in in a matter of of weeks you know a matter of days so we we have to have that in mind because

00:09:02.960 a molecule of co2 doesn't need a passport to travel around the world and if china is emitting

00:09:09.720 these uh massive massive increases in co2 uh then for canada to kneecap ourselves it won't have any

00:09:18.380 impact all we're doing is we're we're going to be displacing you know that production is going to leave

00:09:23.600 canada where it's held to an environmental standard you know we we say to countries who are mining or

00:09:29.720 developing oil and gas or manufacturing here you must adhere to these environmental standards well

00:09:34.800 if we chase them away and we say hey great news canada's reduced its emissions by you know so many

00:09:39.380 tons of co2 say okay well now that production's taking place in china without those environmental

00:09:45.780 standards and now instead of maybe 10 tons of co2 on a weekly basis now it's more like 20 we're

00:09:51.720 actually worse off so our approach was to uh combat global emissions and to start to say what can

00:09:57.900 canada do here if we took a unit of production away from china as it relates to for example aluminum

00:10:03.360 our aluminum industries in quebec and and in other places they have access to clean hydropower so

00:10:09.200 the emission the co2 emissions for producing a ton of aluminum is much much lower in canada in china

00:10:15.960 they they they run their electricity off of coal-powered electrical plants so we can actually

00:10:21.360 lower emissions by producing more here though the global levels would would be reduced canadian

00:10:28.280 emissions would would you know our own domestic policy could can leverage our clout to lower that

00:10:34.460 those global emissions but unfortunately justin trudeau is you know ideologically bent this is like uh

00:10:40.120 you know the this government is like a an ndp campus club at a university you know in power just

00:10:45.760 you know don't don't bother them with the with the facts just uh you know all the stuff that works on

00:10:51.700 paper that never works anytime it's been tried this is this is what they're actually doing and um and

00:10:57.240 it's it's it's pretty scary you know we we can laugh and we can make jokes about a little bit but

00:11:01.200 it's a little bit of gallows humor here in uh in saskatchewan because we see the impact we see the

00:11:06.520 layoffs we see the steel plant here in regina being basically idle for the past few months and

00:11:11.960 it's sad and it's affecting people's lives and livelihoods and we've got a prime minister who

00:11:15.620 just keeps putting salt in the wounds absolutely and when you see article after article talking

00:11:20.420 about price increases for oil and gas when you're seeing warnings about shortages this winter when

00:11:25.880 people might actually have real problems heating their homes in in the dead of winter that is very

00:11:32.040 concerning but yet as you pointed out we have the supply here why rely on others it just makes no

00:11:41.920 sense i i can't figure it out either yeah we had a proposal we had a proposal a few years ago for

00:11:47.960 energy east and energy east would have brought western canadian energy to eastern canadian refineries

00:11:52.780 it would have created jobs and opportunities all across the the way now the project proponent pulled

00:11:58.920 out why well because justin trudeau rigged the system the approvals process was changed to force

00:12:07.780 the pipeline proponent to account for all upstream and downstream emissions and basically what that

00:12:13.060 means is that any amount of co2 that gets emitted in the extraction of the oil and gas or any of the

00:12:19.620 co2 that's emitted after the product reaches the refinery has to be accounted in the pipeline no other

00:12:26.740 industry in canada is faced for that you know the auto sector uh the the manufacturing plants in

00:12:32.480 ontario don't have to account for the co2 that's caused by the creation of the raw materials that go

00:12:38.720 into a vehicle they certainly don't have to account for the co2 that that vehicle puts into the air after

00:12:44.580 it drives off the lot this was targeted specifically on our energy sector specifically to attack

00:12:50.600 western canada no other industry in canada to face it so the the project proponent uh pulled out so as

00:12:57.040 a result those eastern canadian refineries don't have access to canadian energy as you point out we

00:13:01.920 have it here we've got natural gas we've got conventional oil we've got oil sands oil we've got

00:13:06.560 lots of deposits of those types of things propane's gone through the roof uh gas prices are through the

00:13:12.340 roof and we have a prime minister that rather than tackles that is is is going to make it worse and and

00:13:18.960 is making you know the the people he made happy after that announcement in in the uk were china

00:13:25.800 because china doesn't have to sign on to anything and we're our economy is going to be tougher to

00:13:29.900 invest in tougher to to attract jobs and growth so china is a big winner and as i mentioned our our

00:13:36.040 our competitors when it comes to oil and gas that that demand is going to be filled now it's not going

00:13:41.260 to be filled by canadian ethical energy it's going to be filled by either countries that aren't always

00:13:47.080 aligned with us some countries that are outright hostile to us or countries like the united states

00:13:51.160 where we've got a good relationship but we're also competing very very uh you know it's a very

00:13:58.440 competitive marketplace right now in north america because the united states is is yes a friend yes a

00:14:03.960 trading partner but we have to have a compelling reason for people to invest in canada versus the

00:14:09.200 us and right now we have a prime minister that's making it harder to invest in canada you think it's

00:14:13.240 because justin trudeau will never feel the effects of this like he's independently wealthy and there's

00:14:18.180 nothing against his wealth i'm not picking on that i'm just saying no matter what he does you know

00:14:22.400 taxes go up here the price of gasoline goes up here it will never affect what schools his kids go to or

00:14:28.740 what car he drives or what house he lives in he is just above that pricing system so he just is able

00:14:35.660 to lecture us on everything absolutely jamie i mean it's it's rules for thee and rules for me you know

00:14:41.660 he he has this this attitude he's never you know remember when he attacks small businesses this is

00:14:47.420 very telling he went after small businesses called them tax cheats and tried to take away the tools

00:14:52.860 that small businesses use to weather downturns in their in their economic cycle to save to grow to put a

00:15:01.440 little bit of money away for their own retirement because they don't have pension plans or or government

00:15:05.500 guaranteed salaries when justin trudeau attacked all those different types of entrepreneurs and small

00:15:10.340 business owners he protected he he did not include trust funds he he uh so so he's always very careful

00:15:17.740 to make sure that that when he's making these public policy changes that he he he's protected from it his

00:15:23.300 he called his own family fortune a vast family fortune we know he's very wealthy and like you say you

00:15:28.760 know there's there's a lot there's nothing wrong with with having wealth but when you when you are

00:15:34.580 protected from the impacts of your policies and you are completely uncaring when people talk to him

00:15:40.400 when when when members of parliament raise issues on behalf of their constituents and we say hardworking

00:15:45.880 people who don't have lots of money in the bank who don't have a family fortune who aren't going to sit on

00:15:51.980 a bunch of inheritance money they literally cannot put fuel in their vehicle and put food in their fridge

00:15:57.840 and when he is so uncaring about that it's because he he's he's protected from that reality

00:16:03.880 um and absolutely you know he when was the last time you think justin trudeau paid for a tank of gas

00:16:09.820 you know and and uh he wouldn't notice it the grocery prices could triple and he wouldn't notice

00:16:14.620 uh margaret thatcher used to famously say you know the the leader of the country should always know

00:16:18.880 what the the the the cost of a pint of milk is and it's it was that kind of connection with real people

00:16:25.040 facing real concerns everyday concerns that that really helped margaret thatcher lead britain

00:16:30.480 through some very difficult uh periods and and and emerge stronger and and and more powerful and

00:16:36.120 with a better economy and a better quality of life having those free market principles applied and she

00:16:41.500 she grew up in a grocery store you know her father was a grocer justin trudeau grew up in the in the

00:16:46.200 in the spotlight he inherited a bunch of wealth he's never had to worry about that so absolutely i do think

00:16:51.020 there's a connection between justin trudeau being out of touch and pursuing policies that are going

00:16:56.460 to make life miserable for millions of canadians all right let's talk about infrastructure now i could

00:17:01.920 go on about this for a while because we can talk about how we wanted to incentivize those to develop

00:17:07.060 actually let's talk about this before we move on because uh that way it kind of rounds out the

00:17:11.820 conversation when we talk about in technology and innovation we have very different ideas than the

00:17:19.060 liberals on that we want to accelerate that we want to have rapid innovation by leveling the playing

00:17:23.140 field stopping barriers to competition allowing the best product or service to rise to the top

00:17:28.180 but when you have governments picking winners and losers in certain markets you have innovation that

00:17:34.140 really slows down to what the government wants and sometimes they get it right often they get it wrong

00:17:39.060 but you you really don't improve people's lives in in in quick order no a hundred percent the

00:17:46.320 the the the advancements in technology that have led to an amazing quality of life i i sometimes remind

00:17:54.100 my kids what life was like when i was young like in my lifetime and i i can hear my dad talking when

00:17:59.500 i do it and kind of uh cringe a little bit say oh my gosh i'm saying the same things to my dad you know

00:18:04.540 back when i was a kid but uh my kids asked me the other day why why we say hang up the phone

00:18:12.140 because it makes no sense to them and where does hang up the phone come from and i realized like oh

00:18:19.480 my gosh they have never had one of those wall units with a cradle on it that's right you know so uh so

00:18:29.720 that that made me think about in my lifetime how far we've come you can be on the other side of the

00:18:36.660 world meeting up with a friend deciding what restaurant you're gonna go to you can be googling

00:18:41.740 where to eat in a in a faraway city and if you're 15 minutes late you can text your friend say hey

00:18:46.620 i'll just miss my subway or whatever i'll be there in 15 minutes that that is new that is that is so

00:18:52.340 new in my lifetime uh when we were kids traveling you know if if you missed an appointment you you

00:18:58.580 maybe got a hold of them in the evening and and and explain it there's no way to rapidly get a hold

00:19:03.360 of anybody my point there is that nobody could have predicted the smartphone the smartphone the

00:19:10.020 hyper connectivity things being stored on the cloud the ability to pull up a qr code in in another

00:19:15.400 country and uh and all this is has happened because of innovation it's it's foolish to think that the

00:19:23.140 government can predict these types of things uh companies can't uh predict it individual human

00:19:28.840 beings can't predict it nobody can these things happen because of human ingenuity and because of

00:19:34.980 the principles of the free market system which is you know investing and making a profit and providing

00:19:39.680 a service that people want so this is a rambly way of saying um you're absolutely right the conservative

00:19:46.580 approach is to recognize what facilitates innovation in general well it's it's it's the ability for

00:19:53.480 people to take risks and then get the benefit from that risk so competitive taxation knowing that if

00:19:58.940 you invent something in canada if you have a patent in canada that uh you can you can you can earn a

00:20:04.460 profit off that that's a huge incentive um making sure that we have have the talent you know so making

00:20:09.860 sure that we have skills and training programs that are accessible to everybody that's also part of

00:20:14.660 it so you've got the human resources and you've got the the competitive tax regime and if having

00:20:19.900 innovative policies like tax breaks for new patents those are the types of things that conservatives

00:20:24.980 look at to foster innovation but we don't know where that's going to come from what the liberals try to

00:20:30.220 do is they try to to pick it they they establish a committee you know and and they try to pick winners

00:20:35.200 and losers they created these super clusters where they doled out big bucks in in certain regions because

00:20:41.100 they thought that this would all lead to massive amounts of innovation and and better you know improvements

00:20:46.980 and delivery and all that kind of stuff and it doesn't happen because government's not good at

00:20:51.420 doing anything certainly not good at uh predicting the future and uh and and this is the biggest part

00:20:57.700 this is why liberal big government efforts to to to ramp up innovation are always less effective

00:21:05.240 and less efficient than having some free market principles in place that allow other people to do

00:21:10.520 what they do best because you know what there's a thousand failures you know that there if we think about

00:21:16.260 why why uh why the iphone became kind of the the standard well if we think back there were dozens

00:21:22.100 and dozens of other companies trying to do the same thing trying to have you know products that people

00:21:26.940 want and the the best kind of emerged from it and and consumers make up their mind and make their own

00:21:33.680 decisions so you need to have that competition amongst the innovators there's going to be 999 ideas

00:21:40.080 that don't go anywhere and one idea that does that's how innovation works the government can't look at a

00:21:45.480 1000 options and say this is the horse we're going to bet on it's like buying a lottery ticket you might

00:21:50.720 as well you know the government finance minister would be better off going down to uh to uh a lottery

00:21:56.220 store and buying a bunch of tickets because you have as much chance of being right on your lottery

00:22:00.820 numbers as you would being the government trying to predict where's where the innovation is going to

00:22:05.460 come from i i often refer to to the back to the future model when i think it was the ending of

00:22:11.620 one going on to two doc brown comes over and starts picking through the garbage and getting a bunch of

00:22:16.920 stuff and putting it in the mr fusion and uh that just somebody came up with that idea right like

00:22:22.580 you know you never know what's going to happen someone some canadians somebody around the world

00:22:27.120 could say i have a mr fusion this will revolutionize how we power our vehicles our homes our businesses

00:22:33.820 etc yeah exactly and and this is the thing like when what kills me about government is that

00:22:39.940 the private sector the free market individual canadians or or people in general around the

00:22:47.380 world they apply their intelligence to a problem they come up with a solution or a solution kind of

00:22:55.440 evolves or emerges and then government looks at that and says well now we need to regulate it or

00:23:00.580 now we need to tax it or now we need to replicate it so you know we we have we have the internet we

00:23:06.280 have things like social media platforms pros and cons to having uh hyper connectivity and people

00:23:11.880 being able to to to speak and then the government comes and looks and says well now we need to

00:23:15.520 regulate it now we need to have a whole bunch of things um and they never seem to look at how the

00:23:20.680 innovation happens and and understand how to replicate the conditions they always try to say well

00:23:26.340 if we fund the right company if we give the right company a bunch of cash uh then that company will

00:23:32.880 will will will be able to do this and then you know we'll have that innovation and it's never

00:23:38.160 happened that way tvs for example in in uh in the year i was born in 1979 uh a brand new top of the

00:23:46.780 line tv would cost you about the same as two weeks it was about the same as two weeks average salary for

00:23:54.020 the average worker in canada so it'd take you know uh it would take two weeks to sorry two months i think

00:24:00.400 it was i've double checked my math on this because i haven't used this uh proof point in a while but

00:24:05.140 the point is it took a while to save up to buy a a brand new tv now we look look at a brand new tv

00:24:12.400 orders of magnitude better you know like flat screen ultra 4k you can connect all kinds of things to it i

00:24:21.280 can stream stuff from my smartphone onto my tv it is massively a better product for relatively either you

00:24:28.960 know depending on the model you can get them for for a few days wages now you know the average worker

00:24:34.080 could work for four or five days and pick up what he would have to work for two months for and get a

00:24:38.960 much better product none of that happened because of a government department none of that happened

00:24:44.400 because there was a minister of of uh of technology cool tvs yeah of cool tvs who who said you know how can we

00:24:51.520 have a better none of that happened because of that what happened was competition you had certain

00:24:56.380 manufacturers of television wanted to offer a better product than others so they came up with

00:25:00.320 the remote or they came up with a way to have a better picture or they had you know and by doing

00:25:06.040 that that forced the other companies say okay well they just came up with a remote we better have a

00:25:10.040 better remote or an easier to use remote or people seem to like this yeah whatever and then over time

00:25:15.220 that competition produces a much better product at a much better price and we all benefit from that

00:25:22.320 you know and and that's the part of our free the the conservative party's free market principles

00:25:27.220 that is so frustrating that that the mainstream media that the other political parties just they

00:25:33.420 ignore because it's not like this is theoretical jamie it's not like it's not like we're sitting in a

00:25:37.960 poli-sci class 101 or an economics class and we're having a theoretical esoteric conversation about

00:25:44.660 what might work or what might not work the empirical evidence looking back at every point in time

00:25:51.360 is when you have free market principles you have plenty you have growth you have higher standards

00:25:57.540 of living when you have government control government intervention and socialism you have misery

00:26:02.360 it's it's everywhere it's been tried it's been proven to be true so it's like it's frustrating

00:26:08.720 but the next time it'll be right yeah we'll get it right the next time that wasn't

00:26:12.060 it was just the wrong people the super smart people weren't in charge well you must have heard you must

00:26:17.540 have heard this a lot too how many times have you heard from from really you know radical left-wing

00:26:22.240 people who now more and more are members of the liberal party yeah yeah but they'd say you know

00:26:28.040 communism works it just it just hasn't worked in practice you know it works in theory but it just

00:26:34.120 doesn't work in practice well i know of no other theory that when tested fails still gets to call

00:26:41.580 itself a theory you know if uh if if einstein had a theory of relatively relativity that every time

00:26:48.680 it was tried failed well we wouldn't be talking about it 100 years later you know it would just

00:26:54.040 be relegated to the you know the the footnotes of scientific history you know um it doesn't work

00:27:01.140 because it doesn't take into account basic human nature and uh and that's that's the frustrating

00:27:06.340 part with with watching the liberal governments retry things that have been tried decades and

00:27:11.820 decades and decades throughout our country's history and every time they're tried they fail

00:27:15.740 it's like the the people in the government class believe we're all pieces on a chessboard that they

00:27:20.760 can move they can move around because they know how to work our lives better than we do that's right

00:27:25.400 exactly it's extremely frustrating uh you know what i i completely ran out of time i was going to talk

00:27:31.540 about infrastructure i will uh maybe end with this i always give the guests a closing comment but

00:27:35.600 i will say the the funniest uh one of the funniest uh tweets i saw come out of cop 21 was uh your your

00:27:42.880 former minister that you were shadowing uh catherine mckenna who flew to gas glasgow scotland for that

00:27:48.720 conference and then immediately took part in a zoom meeting while she went to a climate conference

00:27:53.940 i thought she could have probably done that from her living room but anyway um maybe you can close out

00:27:59.540 quickly talk about the the infrastructure bank and what a what a horrible failure that is and again

00:28:04.300 wasted tax dollars here we go yeah i i found i found dealing with the infrastructure bank were the

00:28:11.720 most again very frustrating files for many of the same reasons we've been talking about uh it was

00:28:16.420 announced today that i'll be continuing in my role as shadow minister for infrastructure so i really

00:28:20.460 want to keep digging into this because this is a a massive scandal that's that's happening in full

00:28:26.300 view this isn't like a uh uh normally when opposition parties find out about liberal scandals

00:28:32.480 it's usually because of access to information request or because of a whistleblower uh this is

00:28:39.080 one that they're actually doing in plain sight they're they're making all these announcements publicly

00:28:42.640 the canadian infrastructure bank was supposed to take a take some taxpayers dollars and unleash a whole

00:28:50.720 bunch of private sector dollars to get infrastructure built to the benefit of canadians so it was supposed

00:28:56.340 to get roads bridges ports developed using private sector uh money to be able to do more because

00:29:03.580 there's limited government resources but you've got bigger pools in the private sector so good goal

00:29:09.320 terrible way to do it uh the conservative approach of having the p3 model was the effective way that

00:29:14.980 actually got private sector investment into building these types of things but anyway we were willing to

00:29:20.420 you know willing to see where the canadian infrastructure bank went what they've turned

00:29:23.460 into is a massive corporate welfare machine the this bank uh the parliamentary budget officer blew the

00:29:29.240 whistle not a single dollar of of private sector investment had been committed before the uh the

00:29:35.920 election um uh certainly not to projects that were underway and so no private sector money it's all

00:29:41.740 different levels of government putting money in and just before the election they had a number of

00:29:47.080 announcements where they're basically giving cash to already massively profitable companies so energy

00:29:53.700 sector companies that have billions of dollars worth of of of cash of profits are getting a subsidy now

00:30:01.140 from taxpayers to help uh help them build more projects so it's it's completely flipped on its head

00:30:05.600 it's instead of getting new infrastructure built to improve our quality of life they're now underwriting

00:30:10.120 private sector projects where the shareholders and the ceos and the boards of directors they all benefit from the

00:30:16.780 uh taxpayer money uh individual canadians don't not even going into the asian infrastructure bank

00:30:23.120 pipelines in china asian infrastructure bank justin trudeau thought it was a good idea to take a

00:30:30.720 quarter of a billion dollars 250 million dollars of canadian tax money and give it to the to a bank

00:30:35.880 basically controlled by china to build infrastructure projects around that region that allows china to

00:30:43.480 increase its its influence so the infrastructure bank is actually the asian infrastructure bank is

00:30:49.280 actually helping china expand its influence in that region and canada's justin trudeau has sent your tax

00:30:56.620 dollar to help them do it and and it was announced last year that one of the projects the asian

00:31:02.720 infrastructure bank was funding was a pipeline project so he says no to canadian pipeline projects

00:31:08.260 cancels and vetoes energy east and northern gateway throwing thousands of people out of work

00:31:12.900 but he'll send your tax you know some of those workers whose severance checks got taxed some of

00:31:19.220 that tax money ended up in a bank in in asia to to build projects in other countries and help the

00:31:24.800 chinese expand its its influence it just like if the mainstream media just focused for a few minutes

00:31:31.220 of every day on these types of things i think canadians would have a better understanding of just how

00:31:35.400 terrible this liberal government is i couldn't agree with more i'm gonna have to have you back on the

00:31:40.400 show to talk about this infrastructure bank that was supposed to be the topic today and i we just

00:31:45.580 went on a roll there it was great i loved it and i can't believe the time we're way over so i do

00:31:51.220 appreciate that and then uh and like you said the mainstream media if they reported honestly uh this

00:31:57.240 wouldn't this wouldn't be hidden or not talked about at all because i can guarantee you if uh you

00:32:03.280 know under stephen harper if this happened under you or no tool if this ever happened uh there would

00:32:08.280 be massive outrage in the media they would be hyperventilating everywhere you go oh yeah oh

00:32:15.260 yeah there is definitely a double standard there and that's why these types of shows you know you

00:32:19.920 said at the top of the show you know like share and subscribe i i really encourage people who are

00:32:25.460 watching this to do that share the content with your friend i know so many people who are conservative

00:32:29.700 who who have a who have a basic awareness that that what the liberal government is doing with

00:32:34.380 some of these issues is not good but they don't know where to get their information from and uh so

00:32:39.460 i encourage people all the time there's great members of parliament with great shows like this

00:32:43.740 there's uh there's outlets like the true north uh and um post-millennial that cover some of these

00:32:50.800 types of issues and uh you know rather than rather than sitting down watching some of the mainstream

00:32:55.800 media and and uh you know having their ratings go up because you're watching them do yourself a favor

00:33:01.900 watch shows like this this is this is where you can get at the very least you're going to get another

00:33:06.100 perspective to help you make up your mind and you're probably going to learn a thing or two that the

00:33:09.940 other that the mainstream media just doesn't even cover and agree with more andrew sheer member of

00:33:14.280 parliament for reginald capel also the new shadow minister or newly reappointed shadow minister for

00:33:19.500 infrastructure and communities congratulations and i i recommend you listen to his advice like

00:33:24.540 comment subscribe share this program there is somebody in your social media network as andrew

00:33:29.280 just pointed out that might be open to this message this is a way to do that and if you can

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00:33:42.960 every single tuesday 1 30 p.m eastern time we'll get andrew back to talk about that infrastructure bank

00:33:47.620 lots more to unravel there until then low taxes less government more freedom that is the blueprints

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - November 10, 2021

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