The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - Canada’s Affordability Crisis

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your

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00:00:22.840 being heard in the mainstream media, to ensure that Pierre Paulyov is the next Prime Minister

00:00:26.820 of Canada. On today's show, we are going to talk about the affordability crisis that is being made

00:00:32.520 worse by this Liberal government, and to talk about that, we bring on Brad Redekop, the Member of

00:00:36.880 Parliament for Saskatoon West. Thanks for joining us. Great to be here, Jamie. Happy Vimy Day, by the

00:00:41.540 way. I guess when we say happy Vimy Day, as we recognize Canada coming together, the 107th

00:00:46.680 anniversary of that very famous battle, where Canada came together as one and overtook that

00:00:53.000 German trenches that were immovable by other Allied forces. Yeah, we don't have many of those veterans

00:00:59.780 left with us anymore, and it's getting, the ranks are getting smaller at Remembrance Day ceremonies,

00:01:04.660 but it's still, it was an amazing time for Canada, a great time to come together, you know, in what was

00:01:09.400 a very horrific situation. Absolutely, absolutely. So we say thank you for those who have served in our

00:01:15.480 armed forces, in present, in past, in combat or in peacetime, home or abroad, we thank you all for

00:01:22.220 your service. The affordability crisis, gone off the charts. Canadians everywhere, struggling food

00:01:29.940 bank usage is up to record levels we've never seen before. The Prime Minister doesn't seem to care,

00:01:34.800 but I think he's more in crisis mode right now, right? Like you see a bunch of announcements,

00:01:38.960 and it's been a long time since I've seen so many pre-budget announcements on the budget,

00:01:43.360 which is usually top secret, right? Like, you were always threatened, like, you will lose your

00:01:47.540 post or you will be in trouble if you let anything slide. Right now, they are throwing it all on the

00:01:51.660 table. Hopefully something sticks. Exactly. You used to get in big, big trouble if you leaked any

00:01:56.280 little smidgen of information about the budget, but this time, it's a free-for-all. Everything's

00:02:00.720 out there. I'm not sure we're going to see anything new on Budget Day except for the total bill for all

00:02:05.280 this, because this has been billions of dollars that they've announced over the last week,

00:02:08.800 week and a half, and I can't imagine where the money's coming from for this.

00:02:11.780 Well, I think they're just indebting future generations now at this point. We're pretty

00:02:17.180 much at the point, very close, that we're going to be spending more on interest to servicing the

00:02:22.300 debt than we are in transfers to the provinces for health care. Exactly. And, I mean, Trudeau has

00:02:26.700 doubled the accumulated deficit of our country to $1.2 trillion, which, as you say, has driven up

00:02:32.400 the cost of interest to an incredibly high amount. And interest is a thing we can't change. I mean,

00:02:37.540 we have to pay that interest. It's not something that we can say, well, we'll pay less. It doesn't work

00:02:40.920 that way. We have to pay that. And it's not just us, but it's going to be our children and our

00:02:44.820 grandchildren who are going to be obligated to continue paying interest on this debt that's

00:02:48.000 been accumulated. And when we talk about in the business atmosphere, we had the carbon tax go

00:02:53.680 up on April 1st. Not an April Fool's joke, unfortunately. You're a business guy. Small

00:02:59.120 businesses are getting hammered every which way from this Liberal government. Big ones, big corporations

00:03:04.700 can sometimes adjust through automation or other means, other measures that they have at their

00:03:11.000 disposal. It's the small businesses that are just getting hammered. And in small towns like mine,

00:03:16.460 it runs on small businesses, and they're having a harder time getting going, which means less

00:03:20.280 employment, less opportunity. Yeah, that's very true. And, you know, it can be thousands of dollars

00:03:24.820 to a small business. Now, that may not seem like much. You know, everybody says businesses are,

00:03:29.280 you know, business owners are rich. At least that's what Trudeau seems to think,

00:03:32.240 that they have lots of money to kick around. That's not true. And it is the small businesses

00:03:35.640 that really drive employment and jobs in our country. And so you tack on, you know, $1,000,

00:03:40.780 $5,000, $10,000 or more in carbon taxes, it hurts those businesses, and it causes them to make

00:03:46.320 different decisions on hiring. They can't pay the wages that they'd like to. And guess who pays it

00:03:50.360 in the end? All consumers, right? It doesn't matter. At the end of the day, all of those expenses are paid

00:03:55.440 by the consumers who buy those products, whatever they are, whether they're, you know, a car wash,

00:03:59.640 or whether you're buying food in a grocery store, whatever it is, the consumers end up paying more.

00:04:04.100 Yeah, and the small businesses are fighting against big corporations like the Costco's and

00:04:10.560 otherwise that have tremendous buying power, and may be able to up their price here and there,

00:04:16.780 but ultimately save somewhere else. Like we talked about now, we have, you know, self-service checkouts

00:04:21.440 in pretty much every large business. But the small business doesn't have the infrastructure,

00:04:25.400 doesn't have the capacity or the investment dollars to do that. And they can only put up their price

00:04:29.900 so much before they're out of business and uncompetitive. Well, it's very true. And another

00:04:33.740 way they do this, Jamie, is they'll actually squeeze their suppliers, who are often small

00:04:37.760 businesses. So if you've got a big corporation that's squeezing its suppliers to keep their

00:04:41.820 prices low, well, who pays for that? It's the small businesses that eventually they can't make it

00:04:45.740 anymore and they go out of business. So we really, anything that we can do to help business in our

00:04:50.580 country, particularly small business, is just good for the country. And the taxes and the carbon tax

00:04:55.100 that Justin Trudeau's introduced is the opposite of good. And we've seen emissions go up under this

00:05:01.020 Liberal government. But at the same time, we have, you know, tremendous forests, farmland that like

00:05:06.820 to absorb, right? And we don't actually talk about them as much as we should. But I think,

00:05:13.160 unfortunately, or fortunately, I'm not sure for Canadians, the Prime Minister said the quiet part

00:05:18.740 out loud at a recent event in Calgary. So let's get super producer Nick to cue up cut one. Let's

00:05:24.780 get your thoughts on this one. Let's play cut one. Sure.

00:05:30.560 I think the federal government's role is in part to encourage people and incentivize people

00:05:37.040 to think about the future. And yes, make it more expensive for people who don't want to think

00:05:43.580 if you don't want to prepare for the future. So you need to think the way we think. And you

00:05:50.900 might be rewarded for that, probably because you gave up your car or something otherwise.

00:05:55.800 And if you don't, we'll just keep punishing you until you submit.

00:05:58.820 Well, one thing he's very good at is making it more expensive for everybody. And he just

00:06:02.880 just admitted that. And I think, yeah, he said the quiet part out loud there. I mean, how can

00:06:07.240 you have as your goal to make it more expensive for your countrymen, for your constituents,

00:06:12.620 for their lives? That seems like a ludicrous thing.

00:06:16.160 Well, I think governments in general should, one of their first priorities should be to maximize

00:06:21.340 your freedoms, the individual's freedoms, not try to control your constituents through the tax code.

00:06:27.900 Exactly. And it's a problem this government, this liberal government has, which is they

00:06:32.120 see a problem and then they like to identify a solution. And if you don't follow that solution,

00:06:36.760 you get penalized. That's right.

00:06:37.940 And so it's a way of picking winners and losers. And they've done this recently in housing,

00:06:41.640 where they have said to, you know, clearly we need more housing in Canada. We have

00:06:45.820 too many people trying to find housing and there's not enough supply. So what does that do? It drives

00:06:51.380 up pricing. So clearly we need more supply in this country. So the government of the Trudeau

00:06:57.440 government has decided we need to build more fourplexes. So they're trying to force Ontario

00:07:01.560 to build fourplexes. This is typical. They want, they have their solution. They're trying to impose

00:07:06.160 their solution rather than letting people figure it out. You know, Ontario can figure out how to build

00:07:10.000 more houses. They don't have to be told how. And that's the problem with the government is they

00:07:13.780 like to tell you exactly how to do it and what to do. And that takes away freedom.

00:07:17.600 And we've said this many times, leadership is about avoiding the problem altogether,

00:07:21.100 not trying to fix the problem that you created in the first place. Like why? Let's avoid all the 0.95

00:07:26.760 pain and punishment that citizens have to go through. Let's avoid it.

00:07:29.880 Yeah. And that's the crazy thing too, is, is, you know, they're coming out with solutions to

00:07:33.900 problems that they created. That's right. And they don't, they don't even admit that they've created the

00:07:37.640 problems, but you know, so how can you trust them to have a solution to a problem they created in

00:07:42.120 the first place? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Trust us. We'll get you through this problem, right? Like

00:07:45.780 we'll figure it out because we're just super smart. Well, and of course, what's the solution? Yet

00:07:50.380 another program. Another government, the answer to one failed government program is another government

00:07:56.620 program. Exactly. Yeah. And I mean, we have very smart people in our country. We've got incredible

00:08:00.960 entrepreneurs. We've got incredibly creative engineers, designers. We can figure things out if we let

00:08:06.440 people do it rather than telling them how to do it. And we give them the tools, give them the

00:08:10.620 environment, give them the opportunity, you know, good, low taxes, an environment where people can

00:08:16.420 excel and use the creativity that they have. Canada can be a world leader in anything.

00:08:21.300 But we're not, we're not actually incentivizing those to create the next best thing or go into

00:08:26.600 business or start a business for crying out loud. We're doing the opposite. We're making it difficult

00:08:31.140 to do that. We're making it difficult for country companies to invest in our country. We're making it

00:08:35.420 difficult for small entrepreneurs to be willing to take risks. I mean, if you're going to take a

00:08:40.060 risk as an entrepreneur, there has to be some sort of a payback, an opportunity for a payback.

00:08:44.000 Risk reward. And, you know, sometimes you make money on a risk and sometimes you lose money. But as long

00:08:49.160 as you have the ability to make money or to be successful, that people will take those risks. But

00:08:53.800 this government has taken away a lot of the opportunities to be successful. And so large companies,

00:08:59.600 large and small, are choosing to invest elsewhere. That's right. Investing elsewhere. And when you look at the

00:09:05.360 traditional staples, the anchors of our economy, oil and gas, mining, forestry, those type of

00:09:11.440 industries that have been tried, tested and true up until eight years ago, people had a wide variety

00:09:18.620 of places to put their money. Now there's very few. And one of the places that seems to be having this

00:09:24.700 major turnaround because of the conditions created by this government is real estate. So we have a housing

00:09:30.620 shortage. We have people that can't get into the housing market. We have housing being built,

00:09:35.700 but people can't get into it. This is a compounding problem that this government has no clue how to fix.

00:09:41.020 Well, and the ironic part of this is that we are building fewer houses today than we were in the

00:09:46.180 early 70s. And our population is twice what it was back then. So clearly the policies and the

00:09:51.100 situation that the Liberals have created here is not helping. And it's actually making it way worse

00:09:56.000 for people right now in terms of housing. Well, according to the Prime Minister, we'll queue up cut

00:09:59.640 two here. The Prime Minister says if you have a big house, you deserve to pay more. And otherwise,

00:10:08.140 let's see. Let's play cut two. Yes, if you have a giant mansion and an indoor swimming pool

00:10:13.600 and three big personal cars, it might not cover all of that. But for regular families that are

00:10:20.920 hardworking, it puts more money in their pockets. The Parliamentary Budget Officer says that's

00:10:25.660 completely false. That's not true at all. We know that for sure because of his report. And you hear

00:10:31.000 that anecdotally as you talk to people as well. And we're not talking about people with swimming

00:10:34.680 pools. We're talking about average, everyday working people who have two cars. I mean, Saskatchewan,

00:10:39.920 you have to drive. There's no option. And so we have to heat our homes in the wintertime. It gets

00:10:43.800 cold in Saskatchewan. We have to drive long distances. We have no option. There is no option other than

00:10:48.780 what we are doing now with fuels. And so we pay a lot of carbon tax and we definitely do not get back

00:10:54.180 what we pay. Oh, I think that's clear anywhere you go in this country. If that were true, let's raise

00:10:59.580 the carbon tax. Let's keep going. The way to wealth is more tax. Yeah, exactly. $100 a ton if you get more

00:11:06.000 in rebates, which I don't know how any government program works like that. It doesn't. But if that's

00:11:11.940 true, let's raise it. Let's keep... In liberal fairyland, money grows on liberal trees, I guess. I don't know.

00:11:17.160 I don't understand their logic. But other than the ultimate goal of this elite class in our

00:11:25.140 government that believes that if the government isn't, and he said it in his first clip, telling

00:11:31.140 the masses how to live, then they must be doing it wrong. And if you don't agree with us,

00:11:36.560 you're definitely doing it wrong. Well, I think that's one of the foundations of this liberal

00:11:39.960 government is control and lack of freedom. They want to control how we live as Canadians.

00:11:45.660 They want to control what we do, how we heat our homes, how we drive the choices that we

00:11:50.000 make. And that's their goal. And we need to get... We need to move back to freedom. We

00:11:55.100 need less government. We need less government intrusions in our lives. We need... We all

00:11:59.500 know government is not efficient. And that's no knock against the people that work in government.

00:12:03.320 But it's just a... It's a large organization that's difficult to get things done in an efficient

00:12:07.720 way. And we need less of that. You know, only where it's absolutely necessary. And let our markets

00:12:13.040 take care of things. Canadians are smart. As I said before, Canadians are smart. They're

00:12:17.680 very creative and can solve the most complex problems. The freer the market, the freer the

00:12:22.860 people, the more money people have in their pockets to choose whatever they want to chart

00:12:28.360 their own course, the better we are. We have better products, better service, better price.

00:12:32.900 And the more the government comes into industries and starts to subsidize it or monopolize it, the

00:12:38.020 worse things get. You can name pretty much everything the government has tried to do that with.

00:12:42.400 Well, when the government stays out and lets markets take care of things, it is a win-win.

00:12:46.540 Because it's a win for the country. You get solutions and products people want. And the

00:12:50.600 people that design and make those products, they create jobs, they create wealth for themselves

00:12:54.460 and they create wealth for our country. They create taxes that go back to the government.

00:12:57.520 So it's a win-win when you allow freedom to do it.

00:13:00.040 Exactly. But if you're doing all that, exactly what you just said, you don't need the government

00:13:03.800 for things.

00:13:04.300 Exactly.

00:13:04.700 Right? I think this is why people who are able to experience freedom, wherever that

00:13:13.000 might be, and yes, it's getting harder and harder in this country, but once you're able

00:13:17.280 to realize that the government, you don't need the government to control your life to be able

00:13:21.140 to live your life. And once you realize that, the less you need government. And that, I think,

00:13:24.540 scares some of those in the big government thought.

00:13:27.600 Exactly. Because who does that threaten? Well, that threatens those in government.

00:13:30.480 Exactly. Yes.

00:13:31.060 And so, I mean, our principle, and I know our leader, Pierre Polia's principle, is less

00:13:35.520 government. You know, government needs to do the bare minimum that it needs to do. It

00:13:39.580 needs to do the things that only the federal government can do. And the rest of it, stay

00:13:43.140 out. Let other levels of government do it, if that's their responsibility, or let business

00:13:47.400 do it. Let individuals do it. Let NGOs do it. Let churches do it. Let charities do it.

00:13:51.820 All of these organizations exist. They want to help. They want to do things. Free them up

00:13:55.900 to do it.

00:13:56.260 And when the government starts taking over those sectors, because either squeezing them

00:14:01.280 out through tax means or regulation, government has to pick it up because there's no one else

00:14:07.140 to do it. And they will always do a worse job than the other sectors. Because it's more flexible

00:14:12.560 on the ground.

00:14:13.520 And they also then, by doing that, discourage the next one from doing it. So if the government

00:14:18.560 takes over this responsibility, well, then anyone who is thinking about doing that will say,

00:14:22.280 well, I guess it's not my job, it's the government's job.

00:14:24.560 Well, you can't compete against the government.

00:14:25.700 No. And then pretty soon, the government's doing everything and nobody's doing anything

00:14:28.600 because, you know, and that's no good for anybody.

00:14:31.720 I don't think so because you're not innovating. You're not living a free and, I think, a very

00:14:39.200 productive life when you're being told what song you're going to listen to, what you're

00:14:43.100 going to see on the internet. Exactly. Where are you going to drive? Where are you going

00:14:46.180 to go?

00:14:46.560 Well, and that's socialism, right? And we know that socialism hasn't worked anywhere in the world

00:14:49.960 and it's certainly not going to work.

00:14:50.820 It's not the right, you're always told it's not the right kind of socialism, apparently.

00:14:54.420 That's right. True.

00:14:55.100 Yeah. But overall, I think this government's, I think we will have a carbon tax election

00:15:00.200 as much as Justin Trudeau tries to dodge question period. You know, first day back after a two-week

00:15:05.720 constituency break and he's nowhere to be found, but he's up on the roof watching the eclipse.

00:15:09.800 Yeah, exactly.

00:15:10.560 He had time to show up for that, but not question period.

00:15:12.840 Yeah. And, you know, everywhere I go, everybody I talk to, they're talking about affordability,

00:15:18.140 can't afford rent, can't afford groceries, can't afford to live. They're talking about

00:15:23.780 trying to find accommodations for themselves. You know, housing costs are up, rental costs

00:15:28.220 are up, and there's just no availability. And they're talking about crime. Crime is the

00:15:31.600 other thing that everybody's talking about. These are problems that are prevalent. They are

00:15:35.520 problems that are in many ways caused by the current Liberal government and problems that

00:15:39.320 we as Conservatives have good solutions for.

00:15:41.160 Absolutely. And if we keep the revolving door justice system going, we're going to have

00:15:45.760 an increased number of victims to these crimes, and we're going to have more problems within

00:15:50.420 our towns and cities.

00:15:52.280 Exactly.

00:15:52.560 Yeah. Brad, as you know, the guests always get the last word, so the floor is yours.

00:15:56.380 Well, you know, as you said, we are going to have a carbon tax election. It's coming whether

00:16:01.040 Prime Minister Trudeau wants it or not, and hopefully sooner rather than later, according to many

00:16:05.520 constituents that I talk to. So we're looking forward to that. We're looking for our chance to

00:16:09.740 do that, and we're looking for a chance for Canadians to have their say in whether we should

00:16:14.340 have a carbon tax or not. So it'll be exciting.

00:16:16.600 I think it definitely will. And I think judging by the reaction that we had on the weekend,

00:16:20.940 we had a national day of knocking, there was pretty significant pushback against the carbon

00:16:25.700 tax.

00:16:26.100 Yeah, I think I know which way this is going to go.

00:16:27.560 Yeah, I think so too. Thank you, Brad. Brad Redekop, Member of Parliament for Saskatoon

00:16:31.020 West. We appreciate his time. We appreciate yours as well. Don't forget to like, comment,

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00:16:45.160 the battle of that infamous battle where we all came together as Canadians and fought as

00:16:50.020 one the 107th anniversary of that battle. Until next week, remember, low taxes, less government,

00:16:57.240 more freedom. That's the blueprint.

The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - April 09, 2024

Canada’s Affordability Crisis

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