Canadians are facing the consequences for Trudeau’s reckless policies.
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In this episode of The Blueprints, we have a guest on the show, Rick Perkins, a member of Parliament for South Shore-St Margaret's in the beautiful province of Nova Scotia and the critic for fisheries and oceans, who is also the Minister for Fisheries and oceans.
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hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your
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host jamie schmail member of parliament for halliburton quarter likes brock fresh off the
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leadership vote just a few days ago we're going to talk about that next week in a future episode
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i know you're kind of looking for it this week but we do have an amazing topic an amazing guest
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on and we ask that you like comment share subscribe to this program together we can push back against
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the ever-moving liberal agenda if you can't listen or watch to the program in its entirety right this
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it is out there all right let's bring on our guests we're going to talk about energy we're going to
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talk about the east coast how the east can help the west how the west can help the east and how
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everybody can come together as a country in this amazing confederation and help each other we're
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talking to rick perkins a member of parliament for south shore st margaret's in the beautiful
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province of nova scotia is also the critic for fisheries and oceans thank you very much for
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coming on rick my pleasure thanks for having me been a while since we had an east coaster on i do
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apologize for that well well there's a few more of us now so yes you got a few more to choose from
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jamie than we had before the last election and hopefully the next election we'll have a lot double
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it again absolutely i love hearing that especially out east all right the the the european union is
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hurting right now we have energy prices skyrocketing they're out of control right now you have germany
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the german chancellor in canada a few weeks ago begging for canadian energy and the prime minister
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says ah there's not a business case for him well okay tips the the market's ready to put money into
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this the investors are ready to put money in this we we need to get our energy to market we need to get
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it to the east coast justin trudeau again it's not market forces it's government putting down the
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industry i don't know uh that justin trudeau would know what a business case was if it bit him in the
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you know what because there's a massive business case for it the very day that russia invaded ukraine
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they said no to the lng plant in quebec the very day the lng plant in quebec we've got two proposals
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for lng plants that have been on the books one in nova scotia one in new brunswick for years that
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they have been stonewalling against if they hadn't been stonewalling for seven years as government
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we'd have the pipelines built to the east coast and be able to supply and solve europe's issues
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they're talking about uh people having to see in britain there are heating bills going up 300 pounds
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a month people don't know what they're going to do they can't they don't have the money
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and it's thanks to these policies we have excess oil we can't and gas and we can't get it to market
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and even in atlantic canada i have to burn saudi arabian oil in my house to heat my house in the
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in atlantic canada that's just that's a crime that we have to do that absolutely we have tons of energy
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we have ways to create income opportunities for people create wealth jobs in our own country build
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it here create it here and export we shouldn't be doing that if the pandemic taught us anything that
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should be it yeah that's you know the the whole idea that we aren't self uh reliant on our own energy
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within our own country what's more fundamental than energy security for both your economy and for
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our just our everyday lives and certainly the war in ukraine has shown how important uh having that
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sufficiency is self-sufficiency is so the idea that we can't build pipelines because we've got
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still in place this no tanker bill no pipeline bill that prevented anything from coming to the east coast
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make no mistake that's why it's there wasn't meant to provide better environmental input it was meant to
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stop capital from coming to canada and from us in the east coast having again like i say we don't have
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any pipeline we don't have oil and gas in atlantic canada so our oil comes from saudi arabian tankers
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to saint john new brunswick to get refined our electricity in nova scotia 58 of our electricity
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is generated from coal and you might say hey that's great nova scotia has lots of coal not anymore we
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that coal comes from columbia so they ship coal from columbia to nova scotia to generate electricity
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but we can't get natural gas and good clean canadian oil to atlantic canada to use to heat
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our homes and fuel our vehicles and look at all the lost opportunity right you have a lot of expertise
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in this like as we said before on the show capital takes the path of least resistance just like
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anything right if there are bottlenecks and this bottleneck in this country seems to be the federal
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government and its marxist green audiology they're shutting this down the government is doing this
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to you they're not doing this for you they're doing this to you that could create jobs opportunity and
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wealth not only in the west but also in the east we could have self-sufficient energy independence we
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could actually provide and be a beacon to the world on this but yet our government says no jamie what's
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our greatest competitive advantage as a country it's always been our natural resources i spent a lot of years
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in business and in business you're always trying you're only successful if you have a competitive
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advantage and you spend all your time in business trying to keep that competitive advantage what's
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our competitive advantage oil and gas fisheries mining forestry agriculture our resources we're blessed
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with these amazing resources you know you don't hear saudi arabia saying i'm glad i don't have all those
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trees to manage like canada does it must be a terrible burden like come on guys this is what our
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competitive advantage is our resources all of them and we have a government whose intent on frankly
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shutting down all the resource sector not just oil and gas and our wealth has stalled our competitiveness
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has stalled our economy is falling behind our american and european counterparts because we're not
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developing our greatest natural resource so it's not too long ago that the united states was an
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importer of energy now it's an exporter why because they invested in shell gas and natural gas and
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now they're exporting to the world including to canada we have a pipeline that runs from the u.s
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to nova scotia bringing natural gas up to nova scotia from the u.s from shell gas but we won't build it
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from alberta and saskatchewan to the east coast how does that make any sense it is absolutely mind
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boggling but and energy as we mentioned is climbing in canada has been for a while some provinces have
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reduced their provincial sales tax on ontario on alberta another we have the european economy
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basically grinding to a halt you saw stories about germany shutting down steel plants like steel plants
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because they can't find the energy this is absolutely incredible and we have it here so we have all of this
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happening cost of living as you mentioned energy crisis people trying to pay their energy bills as
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families struggling to get by and then you have the atlantic provinces here standing up to the federal
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government and saying hang on with the carbon tax we don't want the carbon tax to go up to 14 cents a
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liter on a tank a liter on a fuel for your car yeah well back in the day when trudeau brought in his
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ineffective carbon tax he we had four provincial liberal governments in atlantic canada and they all
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cut a deal with trudeau to do their own their own system so in nova scotia for example we have a what's
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called a cap and trade system all of those systems uh that deal was essentially expiring this year and
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there was a deadline of september 2nd for the atlantic provinces to say to the federal government
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are they going to increase the tax on their system for their citizens in order to be compliant with the
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trudeau uh scheme and all four atlantic premiers three conservative one liberal the liberal in
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newfoundland said no now is not the time for us to be increasing 14 cents a liter gas when people
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can't afford to heat their houses when people can't afford food you know i live in a rural riding we
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don't have public transit in my riding if you need to take your kids to hockey and to school and you need
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to go get groceries guess what you got to get in your car or your truck to do that you have no choice
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so putting that additional cost on gas which will put the price of everything up yet again we've
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already seen more seen more than 10 food inflation everybody knows how crazy it is to try and buy meat
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now in in canada the cost of meat has gone up the cost of milk the cost of everything's gone up
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and trudeau wants to increase the carbon tax in atlantic canada what a shock and we know jamie
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right that it doesn't work his carbon tax has not reduced the uh amount of carbon emissions and
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nova scotia our premier proposed a net zero plan we have we have eight we have better than eight other
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provinces in canada we generate more wind electricity obviously we're on the ocean than eight other
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provinces of canada they put forward a plan to get off our coal plants and said here's what we need
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we need this hydro it's called the atlantic loop coming down from quebec and newfoundland put all
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this forward and said we don't need a tax to get the net zero here's the plan and they've proven we've
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reduced carbon emissions enormously in nova scotia over the last four or five years and the federal
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government says and trudeau says no we're not going to do that if you don't have a tax on people
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you don't have a plan well our goal and everyone's goal is to reduce the carbon output and we can do
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that without doing inefficient taxes that put the price of everything up but actually achieve zero
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carbon reduction emissions you you boggled my mind there i can't believe it let me i even wrote it down
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we don't need a tax to get to net zero right that's amazing we've been saying that forever that you can do
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with technology innovation new ways to do things the energy sector should be a plus b not b minus a
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and creating shortages and strife but you know this this is this goes to the government trying to
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control everything and create dependence almost because you're you're talking about the now
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voluntary 30 reduction of fertilizer used for farmers controlling what we can use in energy this
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just goes on and on and on and you're not going to get the major emitters of carbon china india europe
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uh the united states you're not going to get them off coal unless we can get them our liquefied natural
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gas right they need an alternative to tell them that they should put up solar panels and windmills
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but the great country that has invested the most in that in the world is germany and with the cutoff of
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the pipeline from russia germany is now having to restart some of their coal fire plants and their
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nuclear facilities that they were going to shut down i don't know why they were going to shut down
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nuclear facilities they don't generate carbon but the dependence and ability of us to generate
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other types of energy that do not put out the emissions of coal is there and for us not to be doing
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our part on the climate to help get those countries off coal is really counterintuitive to what justin
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trudeau says is his goal which is to reduce carbon emissions around the world well we can help but he
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won't well let's face it the tax has always just been a revenue stream a new revenue stream for
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government look at british columbia right they've had carbon tax long before anyone else in canada did
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and it's been shown time and time again you can look on the sierra club website if you need to
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right there that's not a friend of conservatives but every year that the carbon tax has been in
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effect in british columbia emissions have gone up but so has revenue to government at one time it
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was revenue neutral now it's just become blatantly obvious that it's a new stream of revenue for
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government to spend on whatever they the politicians of the day think is best the parliamentary budget
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officer you know a neutral officer of parliament did an analysis of this this supposed claim that
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everyone gets their money back and that the government doesn't keep any is bunk the parliamentary
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budget office said under trudeau's carbon tax in ontario and alberta by 2030 the average household
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will be paying twenty nine hundred dollars more a year in carbon tax than they get back they're out of
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pocket twenty nine hundred bucks more so where's that money going jamie well we know where it's going it's
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going into the coffers of the federal government to spend on trudeau's useless programs like he's
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doing now isn't and is out of control spending which is contributing to our inflation and he doesn't
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seem to get that the spending and odd well actually does contribute to inflation but that tax is a fallacy
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that they say it's revenue neutral and everyone gets it back they don't get it back parliamentary budget
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officer has been clear on that and and all these little things that keep adding up and they're
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starting to become big things that keep adding up it it starts to affect people and their way of life
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right you you work hard you play by the rules and then you have a bit of extra spending money to maybe
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take a vacation finish a renovation you know do stuff in life that makes things happy they're not just for
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the rich elites they're for everybody at least it's supposed to but every time government puts on new
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regulations red tape they think their ideas are the best but they stifle innovation they start
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stifle expansion capital you name it that this this has an effect and it slowly starts to eat away
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at the discretionary spending on individuals and at that point you're just struggling to get by you're just
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working just to keep your head above water and that's not the way this country was meant to be
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and that's that's why you're seeing such high levels of frustration the liberals have to actually talk
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to their constituents would know this the high level of frustration that's been demonstrated in a whole
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bunch of things and our most recent leadership's a great example people have to pay 15 to be a member
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of a party we don't give it away free like the liberals do because everything for the liberals i guess
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they can give it away for free they give away their memberships for free you have to pay 15 to be a member
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of our party and we have we now have a record amount of party members almost 700 000 canadians
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paid to join our party to participate in our recent leadership race that's never been seen before in
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canada and we've got and we had a great an incredible turnout in the leadership uh justin trudeau only a
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hundred thousand people in his party even when they gave it away free voted for voted in their
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leadership we had over 400 000 party members uh vote people paid the 15 and that's a sign of the
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frustration that canadians have with this government and the fact that everything is costing them more
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and they play by the rules as you said jamie they do everything whether it was through covid they pay
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their taxes they work hard and at the end of the day they seem to have less money and they don't
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understand why and it's pretty obvious why when you have a government that spends the way this government
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does it taxes the way this government taxes and takes more and more out of your pocket every day
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that's why you can't get ahead rick we're we're almost out of time i do want to ask you i could
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keep going on this topic for a long time because there's so much to dig into uh why don't you tell
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us what you've been doing this summer you've been kind of on a committee looking at canada's worst
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mass shooting uh it happened in the province of nova scotia maybe you can tell us a bit about that
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because there's something there as well probably you can have you back on the show to talk about this
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specifically uh because there there there is a lot going on maybe you could just uh go into that for
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us yeah well we we pushed as the parliament ended in june with uh on an issue that just came up in june
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which was political interference into the police investigation into canada's largest mass shooting
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mass murder the that happened in 2020 in nova scotia where 22 uh nova scotians and an unborn baby were
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murdered in a 24-hour period and uh the liberals clearly used the murder of 22 of my fellow nova
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scotians as a political football to bring in their order and council banning 1500 firearms and right from
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the minister's and prime minister's office down and the commissioner of the rcmp appear to have been
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doing their bidding and trying to push and make sure that the information about what firearms the
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the killer had was made public in order to support that you know they made that order and council
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public may 1st 2020 12 days after the mass murder of 22 nova scotians and bill blair at committee we've
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been having parliamentary committee public safety committee meetings on this bill blair at committee this
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summer said they decided to release it and do the order and council after the mass murder so in other
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words they were going to use the mass murder of canadians as a political tool for their uh vain attempt
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to try and curb crime through harming legal firearm owners while at the same time doing absolutely
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nothing in fact making it easier for criminals to commit crimes with firearms which are committed
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not with licensed firearms they're they're not going and getting a pal they're not going and
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uh storing their firearms properly at home they're all illegal firearms that come across the border
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that the crimes are committed with almost exclusively and they've lowered the penalties for committing
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crimes with illegal firearms while at the same time use the murder of 22 nova scotians to uh to
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put forward their their yet again useless government interference into our law and order system and
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it's really disgusting you know people in nova scotia and atlantic can are upset that they would use
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this tragedy to their families as a uh weapon against firearms and legitimate firearm owners on a separate
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political agenda so there have been hearings all summer on the mass casualty commission we've been holding
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parliamentary hearings into the government and the rcmp's political interference and that and that'll
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continue in the fall uh as soon as the committee starts up again it's just amazing that scandals
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like this and many others that we have have not even brought down the government but even brought down
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a minister for crying out loud like the commissioner of the rcmp last week when she appeared or two weeks
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ago when she appeared before the commission inquiring on this when she was being questioned about her
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role in advising the government on firearms if you can believe it she actually said she doesn't know
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the difference between a prohibited and restricted firearm the commissioner of the rcmp who has a
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legal responsibility to be the senior person in government advising the government on firearms
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that's absolutely unbelievable uh rick uh i would love to talk to you more about this we are way over
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time way over time um as as uh you may know i give the guests the last word so uh open up the floor to
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you your final thoughts and then we'll uh get out of here well i guess it is the travel that we've all
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seen on those as we've been back in our writings over the summer now that the house is resumed uh is
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resuming uh number one issue by far is the cost of everything and why is that happening and that's
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happening because our energy costs are up and our energy costs are up because of the taxation
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and other legislative issues of this government and and it's time that that we start expressing that
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across this country including in atlanta canada more actively and aggressively and understanding why
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it is that this government it feels the need to take more and more money out of your pocket
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every day for whatever their their politically correct agenda is or woke agenda that they're doing
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we're going to keep fighting for uh all canadians to try and bring down those costs that get some
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relief at the pumps uh as the house is back we're going to fight to have a real canadian strategy to
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deal with inflation we're not going to blame the dog ate my homework strategy which is what the
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liberals use every time you know it's not my fault inflation it's somebody in europe it's somebody
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somewhere else we're going to keep fighting in the house for canadians and what they need
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i love that fire in your belly rick perkins member of parliament for south shore saint margaret's
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the critic for fisheries and oceans appreciate your time thanks jamie and we appreciate your time as
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well like i said off the beginning right off the leadership we will talk about that next week i
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promise you that we did have that important topic i would need it to get it off our chests and be able
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to vent a bit because it is frustration among millions across this world about why their energy
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prices are going through the roof or they're being told we're getting brownouts and blackouts so
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