The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - Crime, Riots, and Liberal Identity Politics

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm

00:00:11.740 your host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton, co-author likes Brock with

00:00:15.060 new content for you every single Tuesday, 1.30pm Eastern Time. Don't forget to like,

00:00:19.820 comment, subscribe and share this program. On today's show, we are talking about Justin

00:00:25.080 Trudeau's dancing at Taylor Swift while Montreal burns, as well as the Liberal soft on crime

00:00:30.820 approach. To talk about this and much, much more, we bring on the critic for public safety,

00:00:35.420 the Member of Parliament for Kildone in St. Paul, Raquel Dancho. Thanks for coming on the show.

00:00:39.740 Wonderful to be here. Thanks for having me. It's been a long time since I've been on the show

00:00:42.820 and so much has changed in terms of the public safety and the way Canadians feel on the street.

00:00:49.040 I don't think too many people feel overly safe and they're kind of questioning the fact that

00:00:52.920 crime rate's going up and the community isn't the same. However, over the weekend in Montreal,

00:01:00.960 riots were breaking out and the Prime Minister did not seem very concerned about that.

00:01:06.540 I want to play a video, so let's cue up cut one. We'll get right to the video right away and

00:01:10.340 then get your comments on that. So let's play cue, sorry, let's play cut one.

00:01:22.920 Okay, so I get, I get he's having time with his daughter. Going to Taylor Swift, I'm going to go to the

00:01:52.900 Swift. I think long lineups for tickets. I get all that. I get all of that. However, this was a pretty

00:02:00.580 serious situation and I think we agree at this table that a lot of Justin Trudeau's policies have

00:02:05.960 led to what we are seeing now, the crime and chaos on our streets. Certainly, I mean, it's just a very

00:02:10.940 visual representation that Trudeau dances while Montreal burns and the rest of Canada suffers from

00:02:15.400 his soft on crime policies. We need a serious leader for these serious issues. It's very evident that we

00:02:20.060 don't have that. And when you're looking at the protests that we saw, certainly this is from coming after what 14

00:02:26.440 months of liberals really turning their back on the Jewish community and really not taking a strong stance to show their

00:02:32.220 support for what the Jewish, what Jewish Canadians have been through over the past 14 months. And certainly just allowing 0.91

00:02:40.140 these things to transpire, we're seeing them escalate, the language goes further and further and further. We're hearing in

00:02:46.060 many of these protests calling for the annihilation of the Jewish people. This is Canada in 2024 after nine 0.84

00:02:51.980 years of Liberal government. This is what we have. Absolutely. And the videos that we saw in Montreal,

00:02:59.100 it's near recognizable. If you think 10 years ago before the Liberals took power, crime was on the way

00:03:04.940 down, productivity was up, the economy was booming, and now we have the complete opposite of all of that.

00:03:10.380 Maybe we can just quickly pull up the graphic. That's Pierre Paulyev's response. Pierre really hits the

00:03:16.300 nail on the head here. You know, why is it that we're seeing all these different types of protests?

00:03:19.580 Of course, the anti-Jewish protests we're seeing are just reprehensible, and they just seem to be

00:03:23.980 getting worse and worse. Of course, there's been a number of thwarted, thankfully, terrorist plots to

00:03:29.420 bomb and massacre Jews in Canada and from folks who've entered into Canada on their way to Brooklyn, 0.82

00:03:34.300 New York. These things are all related. And certainly, I think Pierre really talks about what's 0.92

00:03:39.500 emboldened a lot of these violent protests in this issue and across the board. And it's the prime

00:03:44.940 minister's sort of his tactic to really divide people into groups and pit them against each other.

00:03:50.620 This has consequences after nine years. We're almost looking at a decade where we've had a prime minister

00:03:55.500 run elections on dividing the country and putting it against each other. And of course,

00:03:59.500 is it any surprise that we're seeing what we saw in Montreal? No, I don't think it is.

00:04:03.260 Yeah, it's a real dangerous path when everyone is looking at everybody else. That spirit of unity

00:04:09.420 and what makes us Canadian. He's stripped it away one by one. It's actually very shameful of how he

00:04:15.980 did this. So leading that into what you just mentioned, the soft on crime approach. So let's

00:04:22.140 take a look at these crime statistics here. So there it is. On the way down. So Stephen Harper came into

00:04:29.820 power in 2006 with the minority and ate another minority parliament in 2011, the majority parliament.

00:04:35.580 You look at those numbers, see that start to drop and then bang, what happened in 2015?

00:04:40.700 Oh, we got this Trudeau Jr. coming in.

00:04:44.060 And up they went.

00:04:45.340 Yes. And you know, it's interesting when you look at this. So right around 2019 is when we saw a number,

00:04:50.860 like they've been putting forward soft on crime justice bills the whole time. But certainly,

00:04:54.460 2019 was a very painful year for the crime that we're seeing, because it really put in a number

00:05:01.740 of measures that had a pivotal change in the shift of the way that we do justice in this country. So

00:05:07.260 one is we know it very well. Bill C-75, of course, made bail the default for violent repeat offenders. So

00:05:13.580 rather than keeping violent repeat offenders with long track records of being clear that they can't

00:05:18.460 follow the law and they do nothing but harm and cause chaos and crime in our streets, rather than

00:05:23.420 being kept behind bars awaiting trial, now they're just let out, often on the same day. When we're

00:05:29.740 talking for violent offenses, hurting people, murdering people, stealing cars, all these different

00:05:35.820 kinds of things. It's gotten to the point, it's so utterly ridiculous that this catch and release 0.94

00:05:39.660 justice policies that we're seeing, police know a lot of these offenders on a first name basis because

00:05:44.380 they've arrested them so many times. And the reality is, in our cities, there's actually not

00:05:49.100 a lot of people that are doing crime. It's just 100, 200, 300 baddies that are doing the vast, vast

00:05:55.820 majority of crime. And yet, what the liberals have decided to do is just made it worse. Let's just let

00:06:00.860 them run rampant on the street with no consequences. And then if you look, if we can finally do get them

00:06:06.060 to go to jail, which is also becoming increasingly rare, because if we look at Bill C-5, took out mandatory

00:06:12.540 prison time for violent firearm offenses. So you can commit drive-by shootings and you're not

00:06:17.660 necessarily going to jail anymore. It used to be, what, a four-year, I think, mandatory minimum.

00:06:21.580 Now you can serve house arrests and enjoy your sentence from the comfort of your home with your

00:06:25.420 buddies, watching TV, playing video games. Like, that's not justice. That's not punishment. No.

00:06:31.260 No, not at all. And so, not getting, uh, these violent repeat offenders, uh, getting bail, if they

00:06:37.340 finally do get to jail, which is not necessary, not necessarily the case anymore. But we saw also

00:06:42.300 in 2019, Bill C-83, which we were just talking about. Bill C-83, of course, took the priority

00:06:48.380 of keeping the public safe as number one priority for parole, uh, parole considerations. It made it so

00:06:55.260 it was like the least onerous conditions in essence. Uh, so that's where we're seeing folks getting

00:07:01.500 out on parole easier. So, so you're setting this out. You do a crime, not an 18 year old who just

00:07:07.260 made a mistake. So you do a serious crime, you, you get arrested, you go through the system,

00:07:12.220 most likely you get out on bail really quick, as you said, very, very quickly. And if you are

00:07:17.260 convicted, you then go to serve some sentences at home with your feet up playing video games. But

00:07:23.340 now we have a case, as you pointed out with 83, that even the most horrible criminals are getting

00:07:30.860 the, the treatment of a lifetime. We have a graphic here, Paul Bernardo, um, their, their family's

00:07:38.540 not allowed to be in the parole board hearing, which is just incredible when you're talking about

00:07:43.660 the families of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffey, the two Ontario women who were, were tortured

00:07:49.020 and killed. Um, the worst of the worst, Luca Magnata, among many others that are now, uh, running

00:07:55.500 around in, in like a medium security. Like this is incredible. I know it's, it's wild to think

00:08:00.700 that in Canada, we don't really have a system. It seems it's easy to get to, it's easy to get

00:08:06.060 discouraged about this because it seems we have a system that doesn't really focus on justice,

00:08:10.940 on that punishment side, uh, serving your sentence. For example, Paul Bernardo should be in maximum

00:08:16.140 security prison and come out in a box, you know, and in our system with C83 is a direct example of

00:08:22.700 that. It's just the idea is that we should put them in lesser and lesser conditions, less strenuous

00:08:27.020 conditions and eventually have them rehabilitate themselves, uh, with some programming and get

00:08:31.980 out of jail. That's the, that sort of seems to be the liberal philosophy of justice rather,

00:08:37.820 rather than holding these monsters accountable for the rest of their natural life or at least

00:08:41.500 a life sentence. Right. So, uh, Mr. Bernardo, uh, was in max security prison and was recently moved

00:08:48.380 to medium. So that's a whole bunch more privileges for him. Way more freedoms as far as prisons go and

00:08:54.060 penitentiaries go. Why does he deserve that? Why would he ever deserve anything but a windowless

00:09:00.460 cell for his entire sentence and hopefully longer? You know, and I just can't, it's so difficult I

00:09:05.500 think for Canadians to understand how is this justice? And it's not just him. You, you mentioned

00:09:10.700 a couple others. And if we think of, I don't even like saying their names, any of these monsters' names,

00:09:16.060 but the, the murderers, uh, there was a woman and her boyfriend that murdered, uh,

00:09:20.780 Tori Stafford back in 2009. Um, you know, it's a difficult, uh, thing to talk about,

00:09:26.540 but we are lawmakers and this is the situation under nine years of liberals. So we had an eight

00:09:30.460 year old girl who was lured away after school with the, with the promise of puppies by this woman

00:09:36.700 and who, you know, brought her to her boyfriend at the time. Um, and she, you know, it's, it's difficult

00:09:42.940 to talk about, but she held her down while her boyfriend raped her and beat her to death. 1.00

00:09:46.780 Yeah. Then they just threw her body in the woods and, uh, they didn't find her for months. And when 0.95

00:09:51.820 they did, she had no clothes on from the waist down and they were only able to identify her

00:09:55.340 because of her Hannah Montana t-shirt and butterfly earrings. You're talking about an eight year old 0.99

00:09:59.100 child. This woman should be in maximum security prison forever. Yeah. And she is in two of our MPs 1.00

00:10:06.460 went to the penitentiary where she's in and saw her. She's walking. It's like an open air campus

00:10:10.860 style penitentiary, medium security. She's living in sort of almost looks like house, like nice housing,

00:10:16.540 living room, kitchen, bedroom, comforts of home next door to a woman and child program. So she's able

00:10:23.340 to see beautiful children. Yeah. How is this allowed? I get really worked up about it because

00:10:29.660 this woman is a monster and should be treated like one. Absolutely. And, and if, and to that point, 1.00

00:10:35.500 exactly. So when you have these, these worst of the worst getting the, the, you know, best

00:10:41.980 treatment, I agree, they should be locked away forever if convicted and they were, uh, and then

00:10:46.700 you look at the crime stats, you see how many more victims there are out there. So many. Right?

00:10:52.380 Seeing sexual assaults have gone up 75%, sexual violations against children, 120% since Trudeau took

00:10:59.180 office. Why is that? Well, if you're, if you're not able to put people in jail and if they're getting

00:11:03.020 out of jail early and if while they're awaiting, uh, their courts, court date, they're out on bail,

00:11:08.220 what message does that send to criminals? Does that not embolden them? We see this all the time.

00:11:12.620 They, criminals know the law. They know that they're not getting mandatory minimums anymore,

00:11:16.620 that they can just get house arrest and be out in the streets in no time. It's ridiculous. And the, 0.87

00:11:21.340 the case of Tory Stafford's killer of these other monsters, these are policy changes that can be made.

00:11:26.780 The minister can, of course, direct the, uh, the head of Corrections Canada. Of course,

00:11:31.820 that that's in the legislation. And if it can't go far enough, they could put forward legislation

00:11:36.540 to repeal the parts of Bill C-83 that did a lot of this damage. They can make these changes. That's

00:11:41.500 what the public needs to know, Jamie. These changes were made. They can be unmade. We can hold

00:11:46.300 criminals accountable. We can get them off the streets and we can hold, uh, monsters and maximum

00:11:50.220 security prison until the end of their days. Those things can be done in Canada. We just need a change

00:11:54.700 of government. Well, exactly. And there doesn't seem to be that political will at the same time.

00:11:58.620 I, which I can't. It's just wild. Yeah. I can't seem to figure this out, right? Because if you look

00:12:03.100 where some of the Liberals hold their seats, it's downtown Toronto, it's Vancouver, um, uh, Montreal,

00:12:09.740 where, where the crime rate has gone up and, and people are, are, you know, scared in a lot of cases.

00:12:16.140 And they just, I, I can't, they must be getting phone calls and emails from their constituents. They

00:12:21.260 have to be. They must be. I, it's, it's very difficult to comprehend and it's difficult,

00:12:25.900 um, to have a, have a even temperament about this when you see these things as a parent,

00:12:33.020 um, as a woman, it's just unbelievable that a government that purports itself to be feminist 1.00

00:12:38.140 endorses and passes policies and defends them when they see their record. It is, it's very perplexing

00:12:44.140 to say the least. Uh, this is not a feminist government. This is not a government who cares about 1.00

00:12:48.060 women. This is a government who wants to coddle criminals and ignore victims' rights. Yes, 1.00

00:12:53.900 absolutely. And continues to allow, uh, massive amounts of overdosing in our, in our streets.

00:13:00.460 Is it 40,000 now since Trudeau took over and most of them are young people? Yeah,

00:13:04.140 it's in record highs. We've never seen this before. And what is their response to, um, you know,

00:13:09.820 allow government taxpayer-funded drugs? That's their answer to this. Um, I think I'm sure you saw

00:13:16.860 that video of outside that hospital. It was in BC. There is a dispenser, like, you know,

00:13:20.780 you go get chips or a Pepsi or something, but you can get free crack pipe kicks. Yeah. That's

00:13:26.620 what we're doing now in front of hospitals? Right. Really? Why, why isn't the focus,

00:13:31.180 like, there's only so many taxpayer dollars. Why is the focus on these taxpayer-funded drug dens and not

00:13:37.100 on recovery centers? When did the left become a movement that decided to facilitate drug addiction

00:13:44.540 rather than facilitate recovery? That's a great question. Yeah. Why, what's their fascination with

00:13:51.100 this? Like, anybody looking at the numbers, a rational human being looks at these numbers and go,

00:13:56.460 oh my goodness, you know, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 Canadians dead from overdosing. Our, our direction

00:14:04.140 is not the right one. So they double down on it. Are they afraid to go backwards? I don't know. I can't

00:14:10.140 get into the, into the head of a liberal, but I, I just can't imagine looking at these numbers and

00:14:14.700 saying, yeah, our program's bang on. Really. And it just, it was a, I think when our leader Pierre

00:14:19.900 Paglia of, uh, first got elected, it was one of the first issues he really, really took on. And,

00:14:24.540 um, to, you know, all of the mainstream media just lambasted him when he took on these taxpayer-funded

00:14:30.140 drug thins. But because of that courage, I think it's really moved, moved the conversation to where

00:14:35.100 people are really at. You know, you, you talk to people in a lot of these neighborhoods or who

00:14:40.060 live adjacent to these neighborhoods who have children and they can't go to the playgrounds

00:14:44.380 because there's dirty taxpayer-funded needles everywhere. They're having to walk over people,

00:14:50.060 taking their kids to school that are, uh, injecting themselves with various drugs. Like,

00:14:54.300 this isn't the communities that we all work hard to pay taxes for. And these people are suffering.

00:14:58.620 And we're just handing them more drugs rather than taking them to recovery. This is a, this is a

00:15:04.220 critical conversation and people are going to continue to die unless we make policy changes.

00:15:08.780 And it also erodes in a way, a lot of the trust people have in our institutions as Canadians,

00:15:16.220 right? Because you're asked, especially right now, asked or being told, whatever way you prefer,

00:15:24.140 being told to pay ever more taxes, right? You're taking, you're working twice as hard to take in half

00:15:29.580 as much. Your dollar isn't going as far as it used to go. And now it's unsafe to walk out of your

00:15:35.820 home in some cases, or even go to the park without, as you said, finding a needle in the, in the

00:15:39.740 playground, right? There's homeless encampments everywhere because the house price of housing is

00:15:45.660 incredible right now. The price of food is out of control. Um, all done by policy from this liberal

00:15:53.180 government. Yeah. It's failed policy results. Everywhere you look, everywhere you look,

00:15:57.980 you see the results of these radical leftist policies. And I think people are really getting

00:16:03.340 tired of it. And we see that reflected in the polls. We are focused on common sense, uh, issues,

00:16:08.300 common sense issues. We want to build the homes, fix the budget, stop the crime and ax the carbon tax.

00:16:13.660 These are some, and the GST on new homes. So these are things that are tangible that people can

00:16:18.300 understand. That makes sense. These are the bread and butter, like meat and potato issues that I think

00:16:23.260 people are desperate to see a return to from governments, governments who call it like it is

00:16:27.740 and use common sense approach to things. It's enough of this, uh, division caused by the liberals,

00:16:33.420 by their focus on these radical policies that have resulted, as you've said, in thousands of encampments.

00:16:39.180 And really Canada being, should be one of the wealthiest countries in the world, frankly,

00:16:43.180 one of the wealthiest countries to ever exist. And yet we have thousands of homeless encampments.

00:16:47.900 What is it? One in four parents are going with less food to feed their kids. Two million people

00:16:52.620 a month at food banks in Canada. Right. In Canada. Right. In 2024. And where is the,

00:17:00.300 like, what are the liberals, what is their position here? Because if it's not their fault,

00:17:04.540 Jamie, this is the thing that's really... It's never their fault. If nine years at the helm,

00:17:08.780 and none of this is their fault, then what are they doing there? If they, if it's not their fault,

00:17:14.060 then obviously they can't fix it. So why on earth should Canadians vote for them again?

00:17:19.420 You know, just to use their own arguments, if nothing is their fault, then obviously they can't

00:17:23.740 fix it, right? Yeah, they're not equipped to fix it. No, obviously not. They can't figure it out.

00:17:27.420 They are the worst governing managers I think we've seen in generations in this country. It is shocking

00:17:32.940 their lack of, of ability to follow through even on their promises, many of which we don't agree with,

00:17:39.180 but the ones even that we, that perhaps could make an impact, you could see nothing. Nothing

00:17:43.820 follows through except for disarray and crime and chaos and poverty and suffering. Like, what is it,

00:17:49.580 one in three children are suffering from some level of poverty? I believe our colleague Michelle

00:17:55.020 Ferrari was seeing that. Like, this is unbelievable. Yeah, scurvy's back, I think, in some communities.

00:17:59.980 Unbelievable. Scurvy because people just can't afford fruits and vegetables.

00:18:03.420 Yeah. And we, and it's just wild. The housing crisis is shocking. I mean,

00:18:08.540 obviously, and we saw, we see how the Trudeau liberals respond to things, right? If we look

00:18:13.340 at immigration, it's a perfect example of how they respond to things. So they caused this mess. 1.00

00:18:17.580 They brought in, what, six million people in nine years and had no plan for housing,

00:18:21.980 no plan for doctors, no plans for schools or roadways or water treatment facilities, nothing,

00:18:28.620 nothing. And it's unleashed this housing crisis in our country, or at least part of the contributing

00:18:33.260 factor to that. And now they're sort of saying, oopsies, we'll do a little take backs. But we're

00:18:37.340 not apologizing for making this massive disaster and really breaking.

00:18:41.260 You've got to look to government to fix it.

00:18:42.540 Oh, I know. But they'll fix it. But they didn't really break. It must have been other people's

00:18:46.300 problem. Bad actors, as Trudeau said. But certainly we know it is him who is the bad actor who is

00:18:52.460 causing all this misery. And it's time for him to go.

00:18:54.620 I agree. All right. I just, based on what you said, it just came to this, okay? I got a brain

00:18:59.100 wave here. You can disagree with me or not. Then we got to get out of here. We are pretty much out

00:19:02.540 of time. Okay. So common sense, right? We want to go back to common sense, which most people would

00:19:07.100 agree with. At least that's what the polling is showing. Who knows what the polls. Liberals,

00:19:12.540 or at least those who feel they're above the common person, can't agree with what the common

00:19:17.580 person thinks, because they're not elite at that point, right? You can't agree with what the common

00:19:22.860 people usually agree on, which is treatment instead of more government drugs, right? You know,

00:19:28.700 those, just the things that make sense to many people. But if you agree with what the common

00:19:33.820 people think, then you're not elite. So you can't be, you know, these liberals who think they're above

00:19:38.140 everyone. Yeah, it really is. It really, since I got elected, it's been, you know, you don't want

00:19:43.340 to believe the worst of people. But, you know, it's impossible to ignore this liberal elitism of

00:19:48.780 really looking down their noses at the common people and saying, we know what's best for you.

00:19:52.620 Exactly. You work hard. We'll just take half of it. And we know best how to spend your money.

00:19:59.420 And we'll create all these wonderful levels of bureaucracy, more forms and checklists will

00:20:05.100 surely solve the problem. And we can do no wrong because we're liberals. And all these problems

00:20:10.780 over nine years, that's not us. You know, it's just, it's wild. And I just think Canadians are sick 1.00

00:20:17.020 and tired of being talked down to by liberal elites who have no idea what the day-to-day struggles are

00:20:21.580 of them. It's time for them to go, Jamie. I couldn't agree with you more. I don't know how

00:20:24.780 you're going to close this out. But I think it was Reagan, the more the, the more the plans fail,

00:20:30.140 the more the planners plan. And that pretty much simplifies and, you know, outlines what this

00:20:34.860 government's all about. As you know, the guests have the last word. You can close it out any way you

00:20:38.540 want, although you kind of did well there. I don't know how you're going to top that.

00:20:41.180 Well, I think just certainly, I think if, if you and I are honored, uh, and entrusted,

00:20:45.180 uh, under Pierre Polyev's leadership, uh, to form a majority government in the next election,

00:20:49.420 we're going to have a heck of a lot of work to do, a lot of cleanup to do, and back to common sense,

00:20:52.860 Jamie. Common sense it is. Raquel Dantro, thank you very much. Member of Parliament for Kildone

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - November 26, 2024

Crime, Riots, and Liberal Identity Politics

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