The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - May 24, 2022


Energy Affordability


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Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

169.23799

Word Count

3,364

Sentence Count

194

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

In this episode of The Blueprints, Conservative MP Shannon Stubbs and her shadow minister for rural economic development, Shannon Stokes, discuss the devastating impact the high gas prices are having on Canadian households and businesses, and how to fix it.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints.
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00:00:13.240 Member of Parliament for Halliburton,
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00:00:37.460 We have today a very important topic.
00:00:39.780 I think it's something everybody, no matter where you live,
00:00:42.800 no matter what you do, you're talking about it.
00:00:44.820 That's the high price of energy is absolutely through the roof.
00:00:48.760 Some parts of the country are over $2 a litre for regular,
00:00:52.100 $2.30 for a litre of diesel,
00:00:55.320 which is affecting the price all through the board.
00:00:58.540 And to talk about that, the expert on the topic,
00:01:00.600 we have Shannon Stubbs, the Member of Parliament for Lakeland.
00:01:03.320 She's also the Shadow Minister for Rural Economic Development.
00:01:07.580 Welcome, Shannon.
00:01:08.540 Thanks, Jamie.
00:01:09.100 It's always nice to be here with you.
00:01:10.840 And I don't know about an expert,
00:01:12.140 but I am a rural person who's very familiar with hiking costs
00:01:16.420 and all the people who are hardly able to keep up.
00:01:19.160 Absolutely.
00:01:20.440 So let's, before we get to the NDP motion that we debated last week,
00:01:24.660 that is absolutely crazy.
00:01:26.300 Yeah.
00:01:26.560 Why don't we talk about the gas price?
00:01:28.680 What is causing this?
00:01:29.600 We have a war in Ukraine, Russia,
00:01:32.400 but at the end of the day,
00:01:34.040 why are we experiencing these high gas prices
00:01:37.300 when we have oil reserves right here in Canada?
00:01:39.720 Yeah, exactly.
00:01:40.460 That's the main thing that Canadians should be asking.
00:01:42.700 So I think this is obviously a combination of global factors
00:01:47.500 and fluctuations pushing up the prices here.
00:01:51.820 But of course, the carbon tax unnecessarily hikes the costs
00:01:55.800 every time any Canadian anywhere goes to fill up their tanks.
00:02:01.020 And the real key part, I think, is the issue that you've alluded to.
00:02:04.400 It just makes no sense whatsoever.
00:02:06.380 Being a country with the third largest oil reserves in the world,
00:02:09.980 with the fifth largest natural gas reserves in the world,
00:02:12.700 but no self-sufficiency, no cross-country infrastructure,
00:02:18.140 which forces refineries on the East Coast to import from the U.S.
00:02:24.060 actually, can you imagine this?
00:02:26.480 I don't know why, but importing from our neighbor
00:02:28.700 with fewer resources than us,
00:02:31.800 as the top country that we export.
00:02:35.240 And then, of course, after that, a whole bunch of countries
00:02:38.200 that don't even come close to Canada's environmental responsibility,
00:02:42.700 or labor standards, and never mind all of the environmental standards,
00:02:48.140 world-leading environmental standards that Canadian producers adhere to in Canada,
00:02:52.260 which, by the way, is also a better track record than the U.S.,
00:02:56.000 but certainly not to mention the OPEC countries.
00:02:58.360 Absolutely. So, COVID hit, kind of the world demand for gasoline went down.
00:03:03.080 As we kind of recovered through this, the demand went up.
00:03:06.220 Yeah.
00:03:06.980 We have a conflict in the Ukraine, which we mentioned before.
00:03:10.300 So, we have an increasing supply, but demand has kind of, or sorry, the increased demand,
00:03:16.220 but supply is starting to take a bit of a hit because of that disruption.
00:03:19.620 But at the same time, we have an industry in Canada that has been trying for,
00:03:23.880 as long as I can remember, try to expand and supply and disrupt not only the dictator oil,
00:03:30.540 but also allow their technology innovation within the domestic supply to rise and shine
00:03:36.980 and show that we do have labor standards that are top-notch.
00:03:40.320 We do have environmental standards and start producing the energy that the world needs.
00:03:46.280 In Asia, in Europe, we could have been ready.
00:03:48.940 We could have increased capacity, but right now we have handcuffed ourselves,
00:03:51.900 so we can't even offset some of this disruption.
00:03:55.240 Totally. And it is mind-boggling.
00:03:57.340 It is really a travesty, and I think if the kind of damage that has happened because of government
00:04:05.660 in the energy sector, either, you know, with a different government in place
00:04:11.160 or in any other country in the world, it would be considered an economic catastrophe.
00:04:16.300 But instead, the liberal and anti-energy left encourage exactly this
00:04:21.820 through their policy positions and obviously also through their advocacy.
00:04:26.400 To put this in perspective, there are up to 22, I think, major multibillion-dollar energy projects
00:04:38.540 in all different areas of the sector that have been cancelled or stalled
00:04:42.620 under these liberals since 2015.
00:04:45.680 A real travesty for those proponents of reducing emissions
00:04:50.540 and making real concrete contributions to environmental stewardship,
00:04:54.640 which, of course, yeah, Canada is already the best in the world,
00:04:57.460 but internationally would have been the opportunity for LNG export from Canada,
00:05:01.720 from all of our coasts.
00:05:03.560 Jamie, 18 projects, potential LNG export projects,
00:05:08.340 have been cancelled under these liberals because of the uncertainty,
00:05:11.740 the delays, the timelines, the high costs,
00:05:15.360 and the unpredictability of the business environment in Canada
00:05:18.320 that the liberals have created.
00:05:19.540 So what's mind-boggling to me is that the people in Canada
00:05:23.040 who want to phase out the oil and gas sector,
00:05:24.900 they want to do this ostensibly to protect the environment,
00:05:28.460 which is a value that all of us actually share,
00:05:31.000 despite what they claim,
00:05:32.860 they're doing the exact opposite of what would allow Canada
00:05:36.580 to make that role, to play that role to reduce global emissions.
00:05:40.520 And by pulling Canada out of the international market,
00:05:45.480 by hamstringing primary oil and gas production,
00:05:49.040 and on top of that making it impossible
00:05:50.580 to get any major infrastructure or export infrastructure built,
00:05:54.860 then they're taking Canada out of the game
00:05:56.640 and ceding that market share to oil and gas producers around the world
00:06:00.860 who don't come anywhere near the environmental standards
00:06:03.880 that Canadian producers do.
00:06:06.480 And also, of course, the difference in Canada
00:06:10.020 is that oil and gas production benefits everybody.
00:06:13.180 Certainly there are direct benefits to the local communities
00:06:16.640 or to the local indigenous communities
00:06:18.420 and indigenous workers and businesses operating in the sectors
00:06:21.920 which are usually in rural and remote areas.
00:06:24.820 But the tax revenue that comes out of that work
00:06:28.980 is spread right across the country
00:06:31.480 and provides programs and services
00:06:33.420 for every single Canadian, every corner, and every community.
00:06:37.480 Not to mention, of course, a spin-off,
00:06:39.400 the secondary and tertiary economic impacts
00:06:41.280 throughout the economies of all provinces.
00:06:44.300 But to, you know, the Prime Minister has always said,
00:06:47.360 well, we believe the economy and the environment go hand in hand.
00:06:49.940 Well, I think it's the Conservative approach
00:06:52.400 that actually shows that
00:06:53.920 because the Prime Minister says that on one hand,
00:06:56.880 but what he actually does is spout myths about the oil and gas sector
00:07:01.680 to pit them against each other
00:07:03.600 and is calling Canada to phase out
00:07:05.980 all our oil and gas workers and businesses
00:07:08.900 on which hundreds of thousands of livelihoods depend,
00:07:11.700 even while legitimate international experts
00:07:15.340 like Worley Parsons have said
00:07:18.280 in very comprehensive comparative analysis
00:07:22.220 with Canada and other major oil and gas-producing jurisdictions,
00:07:25.660 comparable ones around the world,
00:07:27.760 that Canada is second to none
00:07:29.440 in terms of consultation,
00:07:32.160 you know, inclusion of science,
00:07:34.320 evidence-based decision-making,
00:07:37.120 inclusion of traditional knowledge,
00:07:39.280 community consultation, Indigenous consultation.
00:07:43.280 Canada traditionally and over and over
00:07:45.260 is recognized as one of the best in the world.
00:07:47.180 And now we are a country because of these Liberals
00:07:51.140 where nothing can get built
00:07:53.540 and nobody knows what the rules are
00:07:55.580 and it is unfair, unpredictable.
00:07:58.020 Or as the Alberta Court of Appeal just said,
00:08:01.440 uncertain, unpredictable, unquantifiable,
00:08:06.580 and another word that is escaping me at this moment.
00:08:11.000 But it's all the things Conservatives warned
00:08:13.380 the Liberals would make it.
00:08:14.520 Absolutely, we've been talking about this forever.
00:08:16.080 What I'd like to point out is that Keystone XL
00:08:20.820 was canceled when Joe Biden came in.
00:08:23.040 And of course, prices started to spike
00:08:24.540 in the United States.
00:08:25.900 You know, it's through the roof there as well.
00:08:28.220 What did Joe Biden do when he wanted excess or more supply?
00:08:31.580 He turned to OPEC nations for an increase.
00:08:34.960 Meanwhile, we're right here.
00:08:36.040 Did the Prime Minister pick up the phone and say,
00:08:38.640 hey, President Biden, we have an abundance of supply here.
00:08:41.360 Why don't we help you out
00:08:42.520 because we're neighbors and friends?
00:08:44.440 But it was crickets.
00:08:45.420 Not even a try to get Keystone started again.
00:08:49.740 Yes, it was totally crickets.
00:08:51.660 And I think it was actually back when you and I
00:08:53.760 were working primarily on natural resources together,
00:08:56.340 if I have this timeline right,
00:08:57.940 that would have been the beginning
00:08:59.340 of some of the legal challenges in the U.S.
00:09:01.360 What we said at the time was,
00:09:03.480 the Canadian government should,
00:09:05.160 like on 5 Alarm 5 emergency basis right now,
00:09:08.000 figure out how to provide every possible tool,
00:09:12.600 legal support and resource to help the proponent
00:09:16.580 make the case within the American courts for KXL,
00:09:20.980 while at the same time really escalating their diplomatic efforts
00:09:26.260 because, of course,
00:09:27.160 there were already American politicians
00:09:28.440 who were campaigning against it.
00:09:30.460 Now, again, they're a little bit like
00:09:32.100 the noisy, impactful minority on this issue,
00:09:37.700 as sometimes is the case in oil and gas
00:09:39.640 producing communities in Canada
00:09:42.620 where actually the majority support it,
00:09:45.560 but there is a noisy minority
00:09:46.800 who absolutely have the right
00:09:47.760 to express their views and speak,
00:09:49.140 but there are fewer.
00:09:50.860 That's the same, actually,
00:09:52.020 in terms of the legislators in the U.S.
00:09:53.740 and their opinion of Keystone XL,
00:09:56.320 but you have an ideological agenda there at play
00:09:59.440 that has nothing to do with
00:10:00.900 either American energy security,
00:10:02.940 Canadian energy security,
00:10:04.800 or securing North American energy supply
00:10:08.140 as we ought to be.
00:10:09.120 Well, let's talk about this then.
00:10:10.220 The left wants us to be more reliant
00:10:11.760 on electric vehicles,
00:10:12.820 which is fine if the technology innovation drives us there,
00:10:15.360 but at the same time,
00:10:16.540 if you're going to up your demand
00:10:19.540 for electric vehicles,
00:10:21.440 we also have to start mining
00:10:23.200 for the materials needed
00:10:24.460 for the electric vehicles,
00:10:26.680 and it's called rare earth for a reason.
00:10:29.080 So it's bad to take...
00:10:30.340 And it's mostly being mined in China right now.
00:10:32.000 In China.
00:10:32.980 By children.
00:10:33.780 Yes, exactly.
00:10:35.000 Or in mines bought up by China in Africa
00:10:37.780 using children in some cases.
00:10:40.260 Yeah.
00:10:40.640 But it's bad to take oil out of the ground.
00:10:43.600 It's okay to take rare earth materials
00:10:45.840 out of the ground.
00:10:47.220 Forget the impact,
00:10:48.580 the environmental,
00:10:49.620 the impact,
00:10:50.220 the footprint that it leaves,
00:10:51.720 but it's also...
00:10:54.680 When you talk about energy in the world,
00:10:56.840 conservatives want an abundance of energy.
00:10:58.800 Yes.
00:10:58.980 They want choices.
00:11:00.120 Both and, not either or.
00:11:01.480 Yeah, both.
00:11:01.500 Exactly.
00:11:02.220 Both.
00:11:03.160 The left wants to shave off
00:11:05.840 and shut down oil and gas
00:11:06.860 and only have one source.
00:11:08.800 Yeah.
00:11:09.060 You know, we have problems with recycling,
00:11:10.420 all that stuff,
00:11:11.240 and the battery life and all that.
00:11:12.640 But when conservatives talk about energy,
00:11:14.700 we want an abundance of source
00:11:16.460 because abundance equals peace.
00:11:17.900 And when you have more of something,
00:11:19.600 there is more for everyone.
00:11:20.980 Yeah.
00:11:21.180 And we can be a leader in that.
00:11:23.100 Totally.
00:11:23.660 And this is one of the things
00:11:25.020 that always boggles my mind
00:11:26.760 when, well,
00:11:27.840 I guess it seems like every political party
00:11:30.460 except for conservatives
00:11:31.400 set this discussion up
00:11:34.100 as if it is mutually exclusive
00:11:36.500 or as if these things
00:11:37.780 are pit against each other
00:11:38.940 because, of course, they aren't
00:11:40.040 because, of course,
00:11:40.640 in Canada,
00:11:42.300 you know,
00:11:43.360 in terms of clean technology
00:11:44.640 or the development of alternative
00:11:46.360 and renewable energies,
00:11:48.340 well, first of all,
00:11:49.180 the biggest funders of those things,
00:11:51.300 bar none,
00:11:52.360 just comparing all apples and oranges,
00:11:54.180 are governments
00:11:54.840 and utility companies.
00:11:56.140 But then when you get into
00:11:57.140 the private sector
00:11:57.920 and you say,
00:11:58.580 hmm, which companies are
00:11:59.900 among the top private sector,
00:12:02.200 and now I'm not talking about
00:12:03.100 just investment conglomerates,
00:12:04.800 which private companies
00:12:06.800 are among the top investors
00:12:07.980 in alternative energies
00:12:09.900 and renewable energies
00:12:11.120 and in clean tech?
00:12:12.540 Well, it's oil sands
00:12:13.120 and pipeline companies.
00:12:14.700 They are
00:12:15.620 because they're multi-integrated,
00:12:17.960 innovative energy companies.
00:12:19.300 And the market's demanding that.
00:12:20.200 Yes.
00:12:20.680 The market wants that.
00:12:21.780 Right.
00:12:22.240 So, government doesn't need
00:12:24.180 to insert its,
00:12:27.260 in this case,
00:12:28.200 not invisible hand
00:12:29.180 and pick winners over losers
00:12:31.960 and force this,
00:12:33.560 what they call,
00:12:34.040 just transition,
00:12:35.000 which actually is a code word
00:12:36.540 for utter devastation
00:12:37.820 of hundreds of thousands
00:12:38.620 of Canadians.
00:12:39.620 But only domestically.
00:12:40.600 Livelihoods
00:12:40.620 and our standard of living.
00:12:41.380 We can still import it.
00:12:42.480 That's okay.
00:12:43.120 Yeah, yeah.
00:12:43.500 Don't look behind the curtain.
00:12:45.140 Yeah.
00:12:45.640 You know what else
00:12:46.500 always confuses me too, Jamie,
00:12:48.300 exactly to your point,
00:12:49.580 is, so for me,
00:12:50.960 like, I have no problem
00:12:52.340 with the idea of moving
00:12:53.360 towards these other forms
00:12:54.660 of energy.
00:12:55.440 But we have to be realistic
00:12:56.520 how we're going to do it.
00:12:57.540 Yes.
00:12:57.840 And Canadians will also use
00:12:59.740 those other forms of energy
00:13:00.860 when they are abundant,
00:13:01.960 available, affordable.
00:13:03.060 Affordable, yes.
00:13:03.840 And feasible in their lives.
00:13:06.720 And that has been
00:13:07.220 our whole point the whole time.
00:13:08.460 Yes.
00:13:09.300 And, but to your point
00:13:10.600 about the rare earth
00:13:11.720 mineral mining,
00:13:12.540 you know,
00:13:15.180 so knowing that right now
00:13:17.640 globally,
00:13:18.760 the, the, the,
00:13:21.640 I guess what you would call
00:13:22.980 maybe the feedstock
00:13:23.900 for the development
00:13:24.840 of these technologies
00:13:25.800 is mined in other countries.
00:13:29.140 Yes.
00:13:29.580 And it's not just like
00:13:30.780 child labor and in countries
00:13:32.520 where they violate human rights
00:13:34.440 and all that stuff.
00:13:35.240 It's also like in some
00:13:36.700 of these places,
00:13:37.260 if you, for example,
00:13:38.320 look at the tailings pits
00:13:39.400 of mines of rare earth minerals.
00:13:41.300 Jamie, it is
00:13:42.140 utter environmental devastation,
00:13:45.380 devastation to agricultural land,
00:13:47.880 devastation to farmers
00:13:49.120 for hundreds of square miles.
00:13:52.200 And then, of course,
00:13:52.640 there's the back end problem
00:13:53.720 we know countries
00:13:54.500 are already having
00:13:55.140 with disposable,
00:13:56.300 disposing of that hazardous waste.
00:13:58.860 Well, the, again,
00:14:00.880 the anti-energy opponents
00:14:02.020 who are trying to put this up
00:14:03.100 as an either or a conversation,
00:14:05.380 those are the very people
00:14:06.440 who often you hear talking
00:14:08.280 about cumulative effects
00:14:09.780 of industrial development.
00:14:10.840 Well, conservatives also care
00:14:12.400 about cumulative effects
00:14:13.780 of industrial development
00:14:15.260 and ensuring that we reduce
00:14:17.760 that as much as possible
00:14:18.820 and uphold environmental stewardship.
00:14:20.460 But how is,
00:14:22.540 how are those proponents
00:14:24.020 not just totally fine
00:14:26.120 with that being
00:14:28.220 the real cumulative effects
00:14:29.700 of forcing this transition
00:14:30.980 before Canada's producing
00:14:32.380 its own?
00:14:33.720 And, but then,
00:14:36.160 then as soon as you try
00:14:37.700 to talk to them
00:14:38.400 about the real
00:14:39.280 cumulative effects
00:14:40.320 of Canadian oil and gas development
00:14:41.920 and how it stacks up
00:14:42.840 second to none
00:14:43.460 on the planet,
00:14:45.080 well, they still say,
00:14:47.080 we don't care.
00:14:48.700 You're only going to be able
00:14:49.640 to build a pipeline
00:14:50.440 on this country,
00:14:51.260 in this country
00:14:51.880 if you can definitely account,
00:14:53.820 if the pipeline company
00:14:54.940 can definitely account
00:14:55.860 for how much emissions
00:14:58.180 are going to come out
00:14:58.740 of tailpipes
00:14:59.320 of the end user.
00:14:59.820 Yeah, right.
00:15:00.220 Like, okay.
00:15:00.840 How do you know?
00:15:01.660 Yeah.
00:15:02.040 Yeah.
00:15:02.420 And the intersectional dynamics
00:15:04.160 of whatever the heck
00:15:05.360 you better be able
00:15:06.100 to account for
00:15:06.780 before you can even
00:15:08.120 get into apply
00:15:09.640 for a pipeline.
00:15:10.180 And it's great
00:15:10.960 if you're a left-wing investor,
00:15:12.200 right?
00:15:12.400 You can invest
00:15:13.040 your client's money
00:15:14.280 in countries
00:15:15.760 that are producing
00:15:17.260 oil and gas
00:15:18.000 that don't have
00:15:18.800 the kind of
00:15:20.100 the green Marxists
00:15:20.980 that North America
00:15:22.120 seems to have
00:15:22.900 while at the same time
00:15:24.060 having your client's money
00:15:25.980 put into kind of
00:15:27.280 renewable government-accepted
00:15:29.580 methods of transition,
00:15:31.620 if you will.
00:15:32.240 Yes.
00:15:32.500 And you win either way.
00:15:33.580 Yes.
00:15:33.820 You're a winner
00:15:34.360 because you know
00:15:34.920 oil and gas
00:15:35.460 isn't going to go down.
00:15:36.680 You've curbed the supply
00:15:37.900 here at home,
00:15:39.160 but you've also created
00:15:40.320 a heavily subsidized market
00:15:41.880 in the EV technology field
00:15:44.820 that you win either way.
00:15:46.840 Yes.
00:15:47.280 And there's an additional thing
00:15:48.520 here that I find
00:15:49.900 very, very troubling,
00:15:51.720 and I think people
00:15:52.640 should know about it.
00:15:54.040 You remember,
00:15:54.680 well, I guess it's still happening,
00:15:55.580 but remember
00:15:56.600 when like a lot
00:15:59.180 of the big banks
00:16:00.360 or the international funds
00:16:02.360 were starting to make
00:16:03.080 a big show
00:16:03.940 about pulling out of Canada
00:16:05.860 and pulling out
00:16:07.020 of the oil stands
00:16:07.620 in particular.
00:16:09.380 Well, I don't know.
00:16:10.680 I ended up meeting
00:16:12.060 a person who is
00:16:13.760 all tied into those circles.
00:16:16.360 So he is like,
00:16:17.720 you know,
00:16:18.480 a bazillionaire
00:16:19.280 and absolutely
00:16:21.020 in the upper echelons
00:16:22.260 of the elite mucky mucks.
00:16:24.580 But he's originally
00:16:26.260 a rural Canadian
00:16:27.020 and he cares about Canada.
00:16:29.480 He wants to put Canada first.
00:16:31.320 He cares about
00:16:31.780 employing everyday Canadians.
00:16:33.240 He cares about
00:16:33.500 investing in the country.
00:16:35.420 And he's involved
00:16:36.040 in a whole bunch
00:16:36.480 of different sectors,
00:16:37.480 but he was trying
00:16:37.960 to build some major
00:16:38.760 infrastructure in our country.
00:16:41.760 And so he hobnobs
00:16:44.320 like at all these places
00:16:45.900 around the world
00:16:46.900 where they make
00:16:47.340 these decisions
00:16:48.100 and like with the Swiss banks
00:16:49.540 and all that.
00:16:49.980 So I talked to him
00:16:51.800 about this
00:16:52.340 and I said,
00:16:52.760 you know,
00:16:53.160 like what is going on here?
00:16:54.660 Is this a show
00:16:55.560 or is this a real thing?
00:16:58.020 And he said,
00:16:59.040 oh,
00:16:59.680 investors are 100%
00:17:00.900 pulling out of Canada
00:17:01.680 because of the uncertainty,
00:17:03.260 because of the risk,
00:17:04.300 because of they can't,
00:17:06.200 you know,
00:17:06.660 it's not a,
00:17:08.080 you know,
00:17:08.240 they can't assess
00:17:08.980 their ROI there.
00:17:10.620 They don't even have confidence
00:17:12.020 that once they pass
00:17:14.160 the newly,
00:17:15.980 the new just total schmozzle
00:17:18.300 schmozzle of a regulatory process
00:17:20.580 that there's going
00:17:21.020 to be any political will
00:17:22.100 to allow them
00:17:22.760 to actually build
00:17:23.620 because you can look
00:17:26.420 at those exact same investors
00:17:27.840 who are pulling out of Canada
00:17:28.840 and whether their funds
00:17:29.800 are in other countries,
00:17:32.100 it's,
00:17:32.300 it's clearly not about
00:17:34.720 being best in class
00:17:35.820 on the environment.
00:17:37.520 And he said,
00:17:38.460 however,
00:17:39.440 because all these,
00:17:41.020 you know,
00:17:41.480 all these elites hobnob
00:17:43.480 and it's all about relationships
00:17:45.540 and they have all their
00:17:46.600 fancy meetings.
00:17:48.120 Yeah,
00:17:48.360 they'll never change.
00:17:49.060 Yes,
00:17:49.480 and they don't want,
00:17:50.080 and they're not,
00:17:50.620 they don't actually want to admit
00:17:51.700 like,
00:17:53.040 no,
00:17:53.320 we're pulling our money out
00:17:54.140 because the government's
00:17:54.860 made a mess of Canada.
00:17:57.700 They instead are going to spin
00:17:59.400 that it is,
00:18:00.340 you know,
00:18:00.620 because of their
00:18:01.120 environmental consciousness,
00:18:02.640 like,
00:18:03.520 and,
00:18:04.300 and they're concerned
00:18:05.540 about the environment.
00:18:06.660 It's so destructive
00:18:07.760 to Canada,
00:18:08.560 but that is why
00:18:09.500 it is so imperative
00:18:10.980 that elected representatives
00:18:12.440 in Canada
00:18:13.080 have to commit ourselves
00:18:15.360 to busting myths,
00:18:16.900 to fighting back,
00:18:18.100 to valuing our own sectors
00:18:19.520 and to put Canadian industries
00:18:21.000 and Canadian workers first.
00:18:22.720 Absolutely,
00:18:23.180 100%.
00:18:23.600 I wanted to get to the,
00:18:24.600 the NDP motion
00:18:25.820 that happened yesterday,
00:18:26.720 but we are actually
00:18:27.380 pretty much out of time.
00:18:28.420 Unfortunately,
00:18:28.720 that was a good conversation.
00:18:30.080 We'll have to have you back on
00:18:31.220 to talk about that,
00:18:32.040 but as you know,
00:18:32.980 I always give the,
00:18:33.820 the guests the,
00:18:34.620 the last word.
00:18:35.620 You,
00:18:35.960 you,
00:18:36.560 you,
00:18:36.900 you've summed it up pretty well,
00:18:38.080 but if there's anything else
00:18:38.960 you want to say,
00:18:40.080 the floor is yours.
00:18:40.800 Well,
00:18:41.180 I don't think there is
00:18:42.000 anything else to say
00:18:43.160 except that
00:18:43.720 when we do get a chance
00:18:44.880 to talk about
00:18:46.120 this motion
00:18:47.200 that the Liberals
00:18:48.060 and,
00:18:48.720 or the NDP
00:18:49.260 have put together,
00:18:50.800 this is just
00:18:51.620 their classic ideology
00:18:53.040 that makes no sense.
00:18:54.100 It all comes from
00:18:55.020 exactly
00:18:55.700 what we were talking about
00:18:57.260 in this conversation
00:18:58.260 and it's wrongheaded
00:18:59.560 and it's bad for Canada.
00:19:00.620 So that's why
00:19:00.960 it's more important
00:19:01.420 than ever for Conservatives
00:19:02.420 to do our jobs
00:19:03.120 and to fight
00:19:03.760 for everyday working Canadians
00:19:04.920 and for all Canadian sectors,
00:19:07.180 but especially
00:19:07.660 for our world-leading
00:19:09.120 oil and gas sector
00:19:09.880 which is under attack
00:19:10.700 and benefits
00:19:11.220 every community
00:19:11.800 in the country.
00:19:12.640 I couldn't agree more.
00:19:13.580 A wealth of knowledge.
00:19:14.820 That is Shannon Stubbs,
00:19:15.640 a Member of Parliament
00:19:16.220 for Lakeland
00:19:17.320 in the beautiful
00:19:17.860 province of Alberta,
00:19:18.940 also the Shadow Minister
00:19:20.140 for Rural Economic Development.
00:19:22.000 She is doing a great job
00:19:23.340 and unfortunately
00:19:23.880 she has so much knowledge
00:19:25.100 we ran out of time
00:19:25.880 so we'll have to bring her back
00:19:26.880 to talk further about this.
00:19:28.420 We do appreciate
00:19:29.020 your time as well.
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