The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - May 09, 2017


Full Episode： May 9, 2017


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

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177.94313

Word Count

5,843

Sentence Count

305

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Coming up, my trip to Washington, D.C on behalf of the National Security Committee, then we hear about Free the Beer, and what's going on on the Hill to make sure that your voice is heard by Parliament.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is The Blueprint coming up, my trip to Washington, D.C. on behalf of the National Security Committee.
00:00:06.360 Then we're going to hear about Free the Beer and what's going on to free your beer.
00:00:10.560 And then we're going to hear about some of the procedural wrangles that are going on on the Hill
00:00:14.300 to make sure that your voice is heard by Parliament.
00:00:18.200 You're listening to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:00:21.440 Well, they thought they were going to have an easy day over there today, but not so fast, Mr. Speaker.
00:00:33.220 What is it going to take for the Prime Minister to have any respect for any laws in this country
00:00:39.340 that may curb his out-of-control behavior?
00:00:44.720 And now, here's your host, Tony Clement.
00:00:46.960 Welcome, one and all, to Volume 2 of Blueprint, the Conservative Party of Canada podcast.
00:00:55.540 And I want to thank the Office of the Leader of the Opposition for the opportunity.
00:00:58.660 My name is Tony Clement, Member of Parliament for Perry Sound Muskoka, and your host for The Blueprint.
00:01:05.720 Well, first off, I want to talk about something that might be of interest to folks,
00:01:09.360 because what does an MP do when he or she is not in the House of Commons and not in her or his constituency?
00:01:16.960 I spent two days last week in Washington, D.C., with a House of Commons committee,
00:01:23.360 the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security.
00:01:27.560 We visited Washington, D.C. as a committee,
00:01:31.380 and it was part of the committee's study of Canada's national security framework.
00:01:37.020 So I was there with a colleague, Diane Watts, from Surrey, B.C., a Conservative MP from Surrey,
00:01:44.340 but also with Liberal MPs and with an NDP MP, all members of the committee.
00:01:50.060 And we had a series of meetings, of course, to really gain insight on Canada, U.S., border security issues,
00:01:57.760 anti-terrorism, the border control, transportation security, all of these issues that are part and parcel of our national security.
00:02:07.500 I serve as the Conservative Party's national security and public safety critic,
00:02:11.780 and as a member of the Public Safety and National Security Committee, it was my honor to be part of that session as well.
00:02:18.540 So a number of meetings.
00:02:20.000 We had, of course, congressional meetings.
00:02:21.620 It was kind of an interesting day to have congressional meetings on the Thursday
00:02:25.160 because it was the day that the House of Representatives in the U.S. was having the vote on Obamacare.
00:02:31.860 So a little bit of distraction going on there in Congress,
00:02:36.060 not dissimilar to sometimes when we have a big vote in the House of Commons,
00:02:39.920 your mind is really focused on that vote.
00:02:42.560 But we had a number of congresspeople, congressmen and women who did agree to meet with us,
00:02:50.640 mostly from border districts, districts that were either on the Washington state, B.C. border
00:02:58.620 or the New Hampshire border with Quebec or, in one case, New York, upstate New York fellow.
00:03:06.060 So people like Congressman Daniel Kildee, a Democrat from Michigan, met with us.
00:03:11.560 We also met with, as I say, congresspeople like Susan Del Bene from Washington and her staff
00:03:17.920 and Anne McLean-Couster, again, a New Hampshire congresswoman and her staff.
00:03:24.720 So it was a great opportunity to talk about border issues but also talk about Canada-U.S. trade.
00:03:30.960 I mean, you're not just wearing your national security hat.
00:03:33.640 You're also there advancing the argument that it is important for the U.S.
00:03:38.440 to maintain and enhance trade links with Canada.
00:03:41.200 You know, there's a big debate going on post-Trump about whether the United States should sign off
00:03:48.800 and remove itself from NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement,
00:03:53.360 or what sort of changes the United States is going to pursue.
00:03:57.040 So we wanted to get our two cents worth in about how important that border trade is for their own districts,
00:04:04.100 that they have jobs that are important to them as congresspeople that they want to maintain and enhance,
00:04:11.620 and those jobs are dependent upon Canada-U.S. trade.
00:04:14.660 So that was really important.
00:04:15.900 On the national security front, we talked about terrorism threats, cyber security, intelligence gathering,
00:04:22.140 information sharing, oversight of national security activities and national security agencies.
00:04:29.140 So these were all very important issues.
00:04:32.280 Did I raise the issue of these illegal border crossers coming from U.S. to Canada?
00:04:39.340 You bet I did, and of course made the point to all who would listen that this is something that we're quite concerned about,
00:04:48.660 and we're concerned about how many are crossing,
00:04:51.400 and we want to work with the Americans to prevent illegal border crossing,
00:04:56.400 because we have rules in place, and we have people who are legitimately trying to advance their case
00:05:02.580 that they are genuine refugees who should be welcomed to Canada,
00:05:06.040 but illegal border crossers who are fake refugees,
00:05:08.980 obviously that is not something that we're interested in promoting or seeing occurring at the levels that is going on.
00:05:16.220 So that was obviously a topic.
00:05:17.820 We got to visit the terrorism screening agency, which is the watch list, basically.
00:05:24.420 There's about a million people around the world on this terrorism watch list,
00:05:29.520 and how they go about within a legal constitutional framework to add people to the watch list.
00:05:36.540 Of course, we have some concerns about names that appear on there that shouldn't be on there,
00:05:41.020 and they are quite aware that the list is not perfect,
00:05:44.020 but they're constantly working with Canada and with allies to improve that watch list.
00:05:49.720 So that was very interesting.
00:05:51.760 Hey, I also got to visit the NASA offices.
00:05:54.560 The National Aeronautics and Space Administration has an office in Washington.
00:05:58.520 Of course, Cape Canaveral and Houston are their main operational centers,
00:06:04.660 but they do have a presence in Washington, D.C. as well.
00:06:07.260 So we got to meet with some of the directors there and see what their plans are.
00:06:12.880 Hey, good news for those who think that space travel is important.
00:06:17.700 President Trump has signed off on continual funding for the mission to Mars, the manned mission to Mars.
00:06:22.980 So that's very exciting and could be a reality.
00:06:26.560 Certainly, I'm hopeful within my lifetime.
00:06:28.880 And if you're a younger listener, definitely within your lifetime.
00:06:32.680 And that's very exciting.
00:06:33.780 And there'll be all sorts of breakthroughs, technological breakthroughs,
00:06:37.980 that will occur because we will, as a civilization, be pursuing this mission to Mars.
00:06:44.700 So that was kind of cool.
00:06:46.020 I got to see their operations center there where they had a live feed from the International Space Station
00:06:52.020 as well as some of their other sites as well.
00:06:55.140 And that was very cool to see, too.
00:06:56.980 And I got to do it on May the 4th, which was Star Wars Day.
00:06:59.760 You know, May the 4th be with you and so on.
00:07:02.260 So that was kind of fun to do that, to do real space stuff on International Star Wars Day.
00:07:08.660 A great trip.
00:07:09.540 I want to thank the committee for having me as part of that.
00:07:13.500 And, of course, there'll be some follow-up that will occur as well as we continue our discussions at committee.
00:07:20.180 For instance, the National Security Committee is reviewing Bill C-23 right now,
00:07:28.020 which is the preclearance bill that will expand preclearance to the United States
00:07:33.820 to make it easier for travelers to get their preclearance and to land at domestic airports in the United States
00:07:40.140 and vice versa, of course.
00:07:41.420 So we will continue to hear witnesses on that particular topic.
00:07:45.700 But certainly having those discussions in Washington, D.C.
00:07:49.060 was very, very helpful to all of the committee members who attended.
00:07:53.240 So that's my report from Washington, D.C.
00:07:56.020 I hope that was useful to you as it was for me.
00:07:58.980 You're listening to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:08:07.700 Browse all of our episodes at podcast.conservative.ca.
00:08:15.200 And now, back to The Blueprint, and your host, Tony Clement.
00:08:18.960 Welcome to Blueprint, the Conservative Party of Canada's official podcast.
00:08:29.300 I'm your host, Tony Clement, Member of Parliament for Paris-San Muskoka.
00:08:33.040 And I have with me as a guest, Mr. John Barlow, Member of Parliament for the Foothills in Alberta.
00:08:39.220 Welcome to the show.
00:08:40.140 Thank you very much for having me. It's an honor to be on the program.
00:08:43.040 Well, it's an honor to have you as well.
00:08:44.400 This is volume two of our podcast, so you're one of our first guests, as a matter of fact.
00:08:49.260 Oh, that is a big honor, though.
00:08:50.140 It is a big honor, and I think that we're going to have a good conversation
00:08:52.840 because we're going to talk about free the beer.
00:08:55.940 And for our listeners, this is an important issue
00:08:58.480 because, of course, beer is not only important to the leisure aspect of our lives,
00:09:03.080 but is also important to the Canadian economy.
00:09:05.520 So, John, why don't you just set the table a little bit.
00:09:07.760 Why is free the beer so important for the future of the Canadian economy,
00:09:11.700 and why is this such a big issue?
00:09:13.260 Well, we knew that the Canada Free Trade Agreement was going to be coming out this year,
00:09:17.360 and it was something that we had started on when we were in government.
00:09:19.760 Our colleague, James Moore, was instrumental in putting that together.
00:09:23.420 But we knew that alcohol would not be part of that Canadian Free Trade Agreement.
00:09:27.540 And we're seeing across Canada, we're Canadian.
00:09:29.480 We love beer, and we should be proud of these amazing craft beers that we have in Canada.
00:09:35.040 And it is a growing industry.
00:09:36.540 But, unfortunately, the ability for these businesses to be able to grow and expand
00:09:40.840 is literally limited by provincial boundaries.
00:09:44.360 It is very difficult for a craft brewer, a distiller, a winemaker
00:09:48.300 to be able to sell their products outside of their province
00:09:51.020 without getting permission from a provincial liquor board,
00:09:54.560 which means a lot of bureaucracy, a lot of costs,
00:09:57.240 and a lot of provinces will just simply say no.
00:09:59.400 I just want to come back to that one point,
00:10:02.880 how important the craft brewing industry is,
00:10:04.900 because I know in my constituency, I now have five craft breweries operating,
00:10:09.760 and they hire people.
00:10:11.640 They are good, year-round, full-time jobs.
00:10:14.960 And that's replicated throughout the whole country.
00:10:16.860 There are literally hundreds of craft brewers now.
00:10:19.160 Is that right?
00:10:19.820 Yeah.
00:10:20.480 In Alberta, my home province,
00:10:22.680 we are probably one of the provinces that was far behind in terms of this industry.
00:10:26.240 But we have more than 50 in Alberta.
00:10:28.880 I have five under construction in my constituency alone,
00:10:32.080 one up and operating.
00:10:34.060 But as you touched on, Tony,
00:10:35.400 what makes the craft brewing industry so attractive
00:10:38.720 is the fact that most of them are built in rural communities.
00:10:41.700 So they are bringing new economic development opportunities
00:10:44.100 to rural communities where opportunities have been limited
00:10:47.240 or been on the decline.
00:10:49.180 So not only are they bringing new jobs and new opportunities
00:10:52.160 to these rural communities,
00:10:53.020 but they're becoming tourist attractions.
00:10:55.020 Absolutely.
00:10:56.260 Brewery tours.
00:10:57.520 Plus for the guys around them that are growing rye and barley
00:11:01.140 and those kinds of things,
00:11:02.460 that's something they really get excited about and buy into.
00:11:04.480 That's a really good point.
00:11:05.600 One of the breweries in my riding is in an old car plant
00:11:08.620 that was doing manufacturing parts for automobiles,
00:11:13.520 now repurposed to be a brewery.
00:11:15.080 Another one is in an old Canadian tire store,
00:11:17.580 repurposed for going from retail to manufacturing.
00:11:20.760 So beer is manufactured now,
00:11:22.940 and it's part of our manufacturing prowess,
00:11:25.320 so we should be proud of that.
00:11:26.880 So tell me a little bit about what the campaign is about.
00:11:29.620 We know that beer cannot pass very easily cross-border
00:11:34.500 between province to province.
00:11:36.080 So what is the Conservative Party's Free the Beer campaign about?
00:11:39.420 Well, really, the main thing right now is raising awareness.
00:11:42.300 We want Canadians to understand that this is an issue.
00:11:45.020 We've been travelling across Canada since November.
00:11:48.160 We've done beer festivals in Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Halifax.
00:11:53.740 And when you talk to Canadians about this,
00:11:55.640 not just the brewers and distillers themselves,
00:11:57.840 but also Canadians who are obviously beer enthusiasts.
00:12:01.360 We like our beer.
00:12:03.240 And they are surprisingly, they know this issue,
00:12:05.340 and they are very frustrated by the fact that we are,
00:12:08.620 as provincial and federal governments,
00:12:11.080 we are blocking the ability for these businesses to grow,
00:12:13.700 but also it impacts consumer choice.
00:12:16.040 For myself, being from Alberta,
00:12:18.020 I can't bring some of my great Alberta craft beer here to Ontario.
00:12:21.320 That's technically illegal.
00:12:23.060 Right now we have the Como case going on with New Brunswick and Quebec.
00:12:26.740 Tell me about that case a little bit.
00:12:28.060 So a couple of years ago, Bernard Como,
00:12:30.860 a gentleman from New Brunswick,
00:12:32.820 crossed the border to Quebec,
00:12:34.120 bought a bunch of beer because it's significantly cheaper,
00:12:37.080 crossed the border back into New Brunswick,
00:12:38.760 and was arrested and charged for transporting liquor across provincial boundaries.
00:12:44.200 He challenged that charge and won his case.
00:12:47.420 The province of New Brunswick refused to go to appeal,
00:12:50.540 instead said, according to the Constitution,
00:12:53.040 free trade is a constitutional right,
00:12:54.680 and we want to go to the Supreme Court.
00:12:56.300 So very good news.
00:12:57.160 Last Friday, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear that case.
00:12:59.420 So this is a huge step forward and a great opportunity
00:13:02.340 that we could see free trade in Canada.
00:13:04.560 So we could get it by virtue of a Supreme Court judgment.
00:13:08.100 What you and other Conservatives are pushing for
00:13:10.980 is that this become a political issue,
00:13:13.200 that politicians do the right thing
00:13:14.900 and remove the trade barriers that are preventing beer
00:13:19.040 and other products as well from going cross-border.
00:13:22.800 Is that right?
00:13:23.340 That's correct.
00:13:24.340 Section 121 of the Constitution is extremely clear.
00:13:27.360 Any product made or produced in one province
00:13:30.220 should be or shall be traded freely to other provinces.
00:13:33.520 Our founding fathers understood that free trade
00:13:36.020 was a foundational pillar of confederation.
00:13:40.020 They knew that free trade was extremely important
00:13:41.960 into the growth of the Dominion.
00:13:43.680 But over the decades, provinces have put up barriers,
00:13:47.160 and the federal government has allowed them to do it.
00:13:49.160 So we are asking the Liberal government to step up,
00:13:52.320 start fighting for Canada's economy,
00:13:54.680 act as an intervener in the Supreme Court case,
00:13:56.820 and try and influence that decision.
00:13:58.560 It is black and white in our Constitution.
00:14:01.440 It's very bizarre that it's, in many cases,
00:14:04.100 easier to trade with the United States of America
00:14:07.000 than it is to trade cross-border in Canada itself.
00:14:10.420 Absolutely.
00:14:11.000 I have a meadery in my constituency,
00:14:13.800 so honey wine or honey beer.
00:14:15.560 They have just signed a contract
00:14:17.020 to export their product to Japan
00:14:19.040 because they couldn't get an agreement
00:14:20.820 to sell it into B.C.,
00:14:21.820 which is literally an hour away.
00:14:25.280 So now he's having to go across the Pacific Ocean.
00:14:28.480 Many of our craft brewers have much easier opportunity
00:14:31.260 to sell it to Texas than Toronto.
00:14:33.900 You know, a much higher cost,
00:14:35.440 but it's a much easier process to go through.
00:14:37.280 And, you know, I would say we're probably
00:14:39.120 one of the only Western countries in the world
00:14:41.640 that has these kind of interprovincial barriers.
00:14:43.760 Yeah, no, well, that's wonderful
00:14:45.760 that our caucus, you and others,
00:14:48.000 I know Dan Albus, BC MP,
00:14:50.400 has been outspoken about this issue as well.
00:14:52.320 Many of our MPs have,
00:14:53.480 so it's good to have our MPs on the sides of,
00:14:56.580 this is really a consumer issue as well.
00:14:58.360 It's not just a political issue.
00:14:59.500 This is for choice for consumers
00:15:01.580 and pricing that is better for consumers.
00:15:04.120 Is that right?
00:15:04.720 Yeah, this is about consumer choice.
00:15:06.700 I shouldn't have a provincial liquor board
00:15:08.500 telling me as a Canadian
00:15:09.440 what I can and cannot have.
00:15:11.180 But also it's about small business.
00:15:12.460 These are small businesses who hire Canadians,
00:15:15.320 use Canadian products,
00:15:16.900 are Canadian entrepreneurs,
00:15:18.440 and we should be standing up for them
00:15:20.580 and championing their abilities
00:15:21.960 to be able to grow and succeed.
00:15:23.720 I'm speaking with John Barlow,
00:15:25.700 our Alberta MP from the Foothills.
00:15:28.520 Thank you for being on the program.
00:15:30.320 John, if our listeners hear this podcast
00:15:33.960 and they want to do something
00:15:35.940 to get involved in this campaign,
00:15:38.380 where should they go?
00:15:39.340 What should they do?
00:15:39.940 Well, we have a website,
00:15:41.540 freethebeer.net.
00:15:42.880 There's a petition online.
00:15:44.540 We're asking,
00:15:45.300 that petition is asking the federal government
00:15:47.000 to act as an intervener
00:15:48.060 in the Supreme Court case,
00:15:49.240 but also asking them to include alcohol
00:15:51.220 in the Canadian Free Trade Agreement.
00:15:52.860 So there's two ways
00:15:53.600 that they can get involved.
00:15:54.340 We have our petition,
00:15:55.400 but also go to our website,
00:15:57.540 freethebeer.net,
00:15:58.820 and there's a way
00:16:00.320 you can sign online as well.
00:16:01.500 So freethebeer.net.
00:16:03.040 They can always go to
00:16:04.000 conservative.ca,
00:16:05.160 which is the Conservative Party of Canada website.
00:16:07.220 You bet.
00:16:07.760 There are, as well,
00:16:09.240 these beer festivals coming up.
00:16:10.540 I know I've got a couple of beer festivals
00:16:11.900 in my own constituency.
00:16:13.600 You were mentioning
00:16:14.220 that you've got some as well.
00:16:16.160 There'll be pop-ups there as well,
00:16:18.300 local MPs,
00:16:19.460 conservative MPs,
00:16:20.560 taking this issue
00:16:21.400 to where beer is being consumed.
00:16:23.600 It's a horrible job sometimes.
00:16:24.420 Responsibly, I'm sure.
00:16:25.380 Yeah.
00:16:26.040 At a little bit of music,
00:16:27.540 live music as well.
00:16:28.440 Beer fests are great.
00:16:29.380 Yeah.
00:16:29.720 So there'll be perhaps
00:16:30.900 an opportunity there,
00:16:31.960 but freethebeer.net
00:16:33.280 is the central site for this.
00:16:34.840 Is that right?
00:16:35.180 Yeah, that's correct.
00:16:36.100 And actually, as you know,
00:16:36.940 it's kind of a fun part of this too,
00:16:38.520 as Canada's 150th anniversary,
00:16:40.560 we have on our website,
00:16:41.860 you can vote for your favourite craft beer,
00:16:43.940 and we're going to name
00:16:44.500 Canada's 50 favourite craft beer
00:16:46.120 as part of Canada's 150.
00:16:47.420 Well, that's a great thing to do.
00:16:49.240 Why not?
00:16:49.500 And I would encourage anyone
00:16:50.780 to take a look at the Muskoka
00:16:52.500 or Perry Soundcraft beers
00:16:53.680 as part of their voting.
00:16:55.520 But certainly,
00:16:56.720 it's great that we're doing this
00:16:57.920 and really think that this is
00:16:59.480 being on the side of the consumer,
00:17:00.940 being on the side of our constitution,
00:17:02.800 helping our small businesses.
00:17:04.480 This is a no-brainer
00:17:05.700 as far as I'm concerned.
00:17:07.080 I'm glad you, John,
00:17:08.040 and others are a part
00:17:09.020 of this movement as well.
00:17:10.440 It's a real pleasure,
00:17:11.160 and the feedback we've had
00:17:12.280 from Canadians is overwhelming.
00:17:13.820 They want to see this resolved,
00:17:15.160 and it's very frustrating
00:17:16.080 for consumers and business owners.
00:17:17.680 Absolutely.
00:17:18.240 Well, you've heard it here.
00:17:19.580 Free the Beer is live,
00:17:21.000 freethebeer.net
00:17:22.100 or conservative.ca.
00:17:24.160 You can visit either of those sites
00:17:25.540 and get part of this important movement
00:17:27.540 for beer,
00:17:28.880 for our communities,
00:17:30.340 rural communities in particular,
00:17:31.480 but really all communities
00:17:33.000 as well as small businesses
00:17:35.220 and the consumer.
00:17:36.020 So, John Bartle,
00:17:36.660 thank you for being part
00:17:37.420 of our program.
00:17:38.420 Free the Beer, everybody.
00:17:40.340 Thanks, Tony.
00:17:42.720 You're listening to The Blueprint,
00:17:44.560 Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:17:50.020 Browse all of our episodes
00:17:51.460 at podcast.conservative.ca.
00:17:54.160 And now, back to The Blueprint,
00:17:59.600 and your host, Tony Clement.
00:18:06.120 You're listening to Blueprint,
00:18:08.240 Canada's official opposition,
00:18:09.620 the Conservative Party of Canada's
00:18:10.980 official podcast.
00:18:12.320 I'm your host, Tony Clement,
00:18:13.880 Member of Parliament for Paris,
00:18:15.060 St. Muskoka,
00:18:16.100 and I have a very special guest
00:18:17.300 with me today,
00:18:18.380 Candice Bergen,
00:18:19.460 MP for Portage Lisgar.
00:18:20.860 Correct, Portage Lisgar.
00:18:22.220 I'm glad I got that right,
00:18:23.480 and as importantly,
00:18:25.020 perhaps she is
00:18:25.860 the official opposition
00:18:27.220 House leader,
00:18:28.740 which means that she leads
00:18:30.480 our caucus
00:18:32.500 when it comes to issues
00:18:33.820 before Parliament.
00:18:34.720 Correct.
00:18:35.400 Okay, I've got that right,
00:18:36.500 so that's two out of two
00:18:37.220 so far for me.
00:18:38.320 We wanted to talk
00:18:39.200 a little bit about an issue
00:18:40.440 that is before
00:18:41.060 the House of Commons right now,
00:18:42.380 which is changes
00:18:43.680 to the standing orders.
00:18:45.300 So, Candice,
00:18:46.340 why don't you walk through
00:18:47.220 what the standing orders are,
00:18:48.880 first of all,
00:18:49.880 and maybe what the Liberals
00:18:51.380 have been proposing
00:18:52.140 and why it's important
00:18:53.120 for Canadians
00:18:53.680 to be concerned about this.
00:18:54.920 Sure, but first of all,
00:18:55.980 thanks for having me
00:18:56.740 on the show,
00:18:57.380 Tony Blueprint.
00:18:58.580 That's great.
00:19:00.120 I'm very excited
00:19:00.840 to be on with you.
00:19:02.900 So the standing orders
00:19:04.860 are the rules
00:19:06.080 around how Parliament works
00:19:08.340 in the House of Commons.
00:19:10.080 So they are rules
00:19:11.220 around how long
00:19:11.980 people, members,
00:19:13.220 can speak,
00:19:14.100 rules around
00:19:14.680 what the government
00:19:15.380 can do to pass legislation.
00:19:17.580 There are rules right now
00:19:18.740 that they can
00:19:19.560 shut down debate
00:19:21.360 and we don't always like it,
00:19:23.260 but it is a tool
00:19:24.040 that they have.
00:19:25.280 We have tools
00:19:26.020 that we can use
00:19:27.100 not only in the House of Commons
00:19:28.780 but at committee
00:19:29.560 to hold the government
00:19:31.060 to account.
00:19:32.500 There are rules
00:19:33.040 around question period
00:19:34.220 and how question period operates.
00:19:36.120 So all of the standing orders,
00:19:38.180 and there's actually
00:19:38.800 like a book,
00:19:40.440 like two phone book thick,
00:19:43.400 a book of standing orders
00:19:44.800 that govern us.
00:19:45.560 So a lot of standing orders.
00:19:46.920 So if this was a hockey game,
00:19:48.700 these are the rules
00:19:49.560 that dictate
00:19:50.200 when a pass is offside
00:19:51.900 or how icing occurs
00:19:53.520 or when you get a penalty,
00:19:54.840 those kinds of things.
00:19:56.060 Exactly.
00:19:56.840 That's a very good way
00:19:58.040 to describe it,
00:19:59.040 especially right now
00:19:59.680 with the playoffs
00:20:00.480 that are going on.
00:20:01.240 That's right.
00:20:01.900 It's the rules
00:20:02.720 on how we play
00:20:03.940 and how we operate
00:20:05.080 in the House of Commons.
00:20:06.280 So the Liberals
00:20:07.020 have proposed
00:20:07.680 some changes
00:20:08.420 to these standing orders.
00:20:10.100 Why don't you go through
00:20:10.900 what those changes are?
00:20:12.500 Sure.
00:20:12.920 First of all,
00:20:13.400 though,
00:20:13.580 I will say
00:20:14.120 it's not uncommon
00:20:15.220 for different governments
00:20:16.300 to propose changes.
00:20:18.160 There have been changes
00:20:19.260 to the standing orders
00:20:20.360 over the last 150 years.
00:20:23.420 Definitely,
00:20:23.880 there have been changes.
00:20:25.300 But over 80%
00:20:27.040 of those changes,
00:20:28.260 many of them minor,
00:20:29.780 have not happened
00:20:30.760 without consensus
00:20:31.680 of all the parties.
00:20:33.100 And that's what
00:20:33.640 this is really about.
00:20:35.020 So certainly,
00:20:35.860 the government has
00:20:36.640 the right to talk
00:20:37.920 about changes,
00:20:39.160 but precedent would say
00:20:40.660 that before they can
00:20:41.640 make those changes,
00:20:42.900 they need to have consensus
00:20:44.220 of the other parties.
00:20:45.620 And the reason is simple.
00:20:46.780 In order for those changes
00:20:48.140 to not just be
00:20:49.460 in the best interests
00:20:50.380 of one side or the other,
00:20:52.420 each side then
00:20:53.160 would have to sell
00:20:54.060 why that change
00:20:54.860 is a good idea.
00:20:56.160 So if, for example,
00:20:57.380 the government
00:20:57.840 can persuade the opposition
00:20:59.160 why their change
00:21:00.040 is a good idea,
00:21:01.160 it would be because
00:21:02.000 they've shown us
00:21:02.780 that it's not just
00:21:03.540 in their best interests.
00:21:05.100 And they also
00:21:05.680 would have shown us
00:21:06.440 that it will be good
00:21:07.280 for future governments
00:21:08.560 as well
00:21:09.140 and future opposition.
00:21:10.260 And likewise,
00:21:11.340 if there's a change
00:21:12.040 that we would want
00:21:12.860 as opposition,
00:21:14.180 we should have to,
00:21:15.100 it would be incumbent on us
00:21:16.000 to persuade the government
00:21:16.920 why it's good for all of us.
00:21:18.860 That's an important
00:21:19.380 check and balance,
00:21:20.240 isn't it?
00:21:20.480 Because no government
00:21:22.220 is in government forever.
00:21:23.480 So whatever change
00:21:24.380 they apply to themselves
00:21:25.620 and to the opposition
00:21:26.500 could be used
00:21:28.240 by another government
00:21:29.380 in the same manner.
00:21:30.480 Exactly.
00:21:31.060 And that's really
00:21:31.920 where our back
00:21:33.720 is up with the liberals
00:21:34.720 because they want
00:21:36.040 to make these changes
00:21:36.980 arbitrarily.
00:21:37.960 They don't want
00:21:38.760 a consensus.
00:21:39.400 They say they want
00:21:40.280 a conversation
00:21:41.020 but they've forgotten
00:21:41.860 that a conversation
00:21:42.580 is two ways
00:21:43.380 and they've just said
00:21:45.320 that they're going
00:21:46.000 to ram through
00:21:46.560 these changes.
00:21:47.720 Now, we think
00:21:48.960 we now finally understand
00:21:50.740 kind of what their motive
00:21:52.180 is behind forcing
00:21:53.820 these changes through
00:21:54.780 and it all comes down
00:21:56.460 to, Tony,
00:21:57.320 them not wanting
00:21:58.120 to be accountable
00:21:58.880 and specifically
00:21:59.940 Justin Trudeau
00:22:01.400 not wanting to be here
00:22:02.480 in Parliament.
00:22:03.200 He has very little respect
00:22:04.960 for this place.
00:22:06.500 I think he views it
00:22:07.560 as an annoyance
00:22:08.860 and you know
00:22:10.040 when he's in question period
00:22:11.360 and getting tough questions
00:22:12.880 he's not in what he
00:22:14.720 probably views
00:22:15.700 as his safe,
00:22:16.580 happy place.
00:22:17.380 Right, right.
00:22:17.760 He doesn't want
00:22:18.680 to be here
00:22:19.420 answering questions.
00:22:19.780 Not much opportunity
00:22:20.540 to take selfies.
00:22:21.660 No selfie opportunities.
00:22:23.700 Nobody's worshipping
00:22:24.660 at his feet.
00:22:25.880 You know,
00:22:26.240 the men and women
00:22:27.720 on the opposition side
00:22:29.020 aren't looking
00:22:30.120 to have any photos
00:22:31.580 or anything with them,
00:22:32.080 right?
00:22:32.100 And our job
00:22:32.540 is to ask tough
00:22:33.640 but fair questions
00:22:34.440 of the government
00:22:34.880 to keep them accountable.
00:22:35.820 That's part of our job,
00:22:36.680 is it not?
00:22:37.020 And listen,
00:22:38.000 he's done a lot
00:22:38.900 of things
00:22:39.340 over the last year
00:22:40.120 and a half
00:22:40.560 that need answers to.
00:22:42.360 I mean,
00:22:42.480 whether it's
00:22:43.280 the massive deficit,
00:22:45.020 no plan to balance
00:22:45.840 the budget,
00:22:46.820 some of his big
00:22:47.620 ethical lapses
00:22:48.780 in judgment.
00:22:49.840 I mean,
00:22:50.060 we're seeing
00:22:50.580 his own ministers
00:22:51.640 who are misleading
00:22:52.480 Canadians.
00:22:53.340 So there's a lot
00:22:53.920 of areas
00:22:54.340 where we have
00:22:55.700 to do our job
00:22:56.380 here in the House
00:22:56.860 of Commons.
00:22:57.420 But it's clear
00:22:58.000 one of the biggest
00:22:58.940 changes that they
00:22:59.720 want to make
00:23:00.400 is that Justin Trudeau
00:23:02.360 would only have
00:23:02.880 to be here
00:23:03.500 one hour,
00:23:04.860 one day a week
00:23:05.600 to answer questions.
00:23:07.520 And that's something
00:23:08.380 I think has really
00:23:09.460 got us frustrated.
00:23:11.180 Again,
00:23:11.640 the way they're doing it
00:23:12.480 but that rule
00:23:14.160 in and of itself
00:23:15.060 we think
00:23:15.920 is an important one
00:23:16.740 whereby we need
00:23:18.020 to keep the Prime Minister
00:23:19.140 accountable
00:23:19.780 every day
00:23:21.060 that the House
00:23:21.620 is sitting.
00:23:22.380 There are issues
00:23:23.000 that come up
00:23:23.720 and we recognize
00:23:24.820 there's some days
00:23:25.540 he might be traveling
00:23:26.360 and doing things
00:23:27.300 but he can't just
00:23:28.700 be here one day a week.
00:23:30.100 Can you imagine
00:23:30.600 saying to your boss
00:23:31.720 or any Canadians
00:23:33.560 saying to their boss
00:23:34.400 you know what
00:23:34.960 I think I don't
00:23:35.940 want to be here
00:23:36.640 on Fridays
00:23:38.220 and Mondays
00:23:39.000 I just want to be here
00:23:40.160 one day a week
00:23:40.920 to do some
00:23:42.120 of the tough work.
00:23:43.000 And to answer
00:23:43.620 any questions
00:23:44.220 about how well
00:23:45.020 I'm doing.
00:23:45.980 That's the other
00:23:47.440 side of this too.
00:23:48.460 These are questions
00:23:50.360 to make sure
00:23:50.980 that he and his team
00:23:52.980 are accountable
00:23:53.600 to Canadians.
00:23:55.180 Exactly.
00:23:56.160 Which they don't
00:23:56.760 want to be.
00:23:57.520 And so his idea
00:23:58.760 is one day a week
00:24:00.080 in question period
00:24:00.940 the other four days
00:24:02.300 of the week
00:24:02.700 that the House
00:24:03.180 is sitting
00:24:03.580 he would not
00:24:04.480 be available
00:24:04.980 for question period.
00:24:05.840 Is that right?
00:24:06.300 Exactly.
00:24:07.260 No matter what
00:24:08.140 was happening
00:24:08.700 he would be able
00:24:10.300 to then have license
00:24:11.440 to say
00:24:12.420 hey the standing
00:24:13.280 orders only say
00:24:14.260 I need to be here
00:24:15.060 one day a week.
00:24:16.580 And I mean
00:24:17.060 again back to
00:24:18.620 the whole idea
00:24:19.260 of changing
00:24:20.080 these rules
00:24:20.720 without getting
00:24:21.880 a consensus
00:24:22.560 he is now
00:24:23.860 saying that
00:24:24.400 every Prime Minister
00:24:25.340 from now
00:24:26.300 until whenever
00:24:27.580 for eternity
00:24:28.720 would only have
00:24:29.820 to be here
00:24:30.260 one day a week
00:24:30.940 and then could
00:24:31.920 go ahead
00:24:32.340 and make other
00:24:32.980 changes to the
00:24:33.720 standing orders
00:24:34.380 for their benefit.
00:24:35.840 Unilaterally basically.
00:24:36.960 Back to your example
00:24:38.220 it would be like
00:24:39.140 as if the Stanley Cup
00:24:40.920 winner said
00:24:42.160 well we won
00:24:42.760 the tournament
00:24:43.860 we won the Cup
00:24:44.820 so we're now
00:24:45.580 going to go
00:24:45.920 change the rules
00:24:46.660 on how the game
00:24:47.400 is played.
00:24:48.680 Trudeau doesn't
00:24:49.640 have a right
00:24:50.180 to do that.
00:24:51.400 Yes he won
00:24:51.960 a majority
00:24:52.460 yes he's changing
00:24:53.740 legislation
00:24:54.480 and he's using
00:24:56.020 the tools available
00:24:56.880 to him
00:24:57.580 to change legislation
00:24:58.800 we're opposing it
00:25:00.440 but he doesn't
00:25:01.660 have a right
00:25:02.200 to change
00:25:02.740 the standing orders
00:25:03.620 and make his life
00:25:04.660 easier
00:25:05.220 without getting
00:25:06.160 consensus
00:25:06.700 from all of us.
00:25:07.660 And this is an
00:25:08.060 important point
00:25:08.640 it's not only
00:25:09.260 our position
00:25:09.900 but to be fair
00:25:10.800 the NDP feel
00:25:11.880 the same way
00:25:12.400 about this
00:25:12.920 so this is not
00:25:13.620 a partisan
00:25:14.260 conservative position
00:25:15.260 this is all
00:25:16.360 the parties
00:25:16.800 in the opposition
00:25:17.580 that are official
00:25:18.140 parties saying
00:25:18.680 hey wait a minute
00:25:19.340 let's have a discussion
00:25:20.720 and I want
00:25:21.600 to make it clear
00:25:22.680 we're speaking
00:25:23.080 by the way
00:25:23.420 with Candace Bergen
00:25:24.180 who is
00:25:25.240 the house leader
00:25:26.360 for the Conservative
00:25:27.020 Party of Canada
00:25:27.740 Candace
00:25:29.040 you have been
00:25:30.320 in my observation
00:25:31.380 I'm going to be
00:25:32.080 editorializing a little bit
00:25:33.120 you've been very
00:25:33.900 reasonable in your
00:25:34.740 approach with the
00:25:35.860 house leader
00:25:36.680 for the Liberal
00:25:37.600 Government
00:25:37.920 saying hey
00:25:38.400 let's talk about
00:25:39.240 this
00:25:39.560 but really have
00:25:40.440 not had
00:25:41.060 a good conversation
00:25:42.960 because they don't
00:25:43.560 want to have
00:25:43.920 a real conversation
00:25:45.020 with you
00:25:45.440 you're right
00:25:46.300 Tony
00:25:46.600 in that this
00:25:47.260 is not just
00:25:47.820 the Conservatives
00:25:48.520 that are opposing
00:25:49.180 these changes
00:25:49.820 of the way
00:25:50.200 they're doing it
00:25:50.740 the NDP
00:25:51.620 are fully on side
00:25:53.220 with us
00:25:53.580 we've been
00:25:54.040 very strong
00:25:55.320 in our unity
00:25:56.240 on this
00:25:56.820 as well as
00:25:57.380 the block
00:25:58.160 and the green
00:25:58.560 also have issues
00:25:59.440 but what we've done
00:26:00.660 we wanted
00:26:01.220 to be reasonable
00:26:02.240 because we
00:26:02.960 we actually
00:26:03.500 would like
00:26:03.820 to get this
00:26:04.420 solved
00:26:04.880 it really
00:26:06.380 is disruptive
00:26:07.320 we don't have
00:26:07.980 a lot of tools
00:26:08.560 available
00:26:09.040 and so we'd
00:26:10.200 like to see
00:26:10.660 this solved
00:26:11.240 one of the
00:26:11.940 things that
00:26:12.320 we offered
00:26:12.940 the opposition
00:26:13.820 house leader
00:26:14.400 and I guess
00:26:15.100 she went
00:26:15.460 to Justin
00:26:16.720 Trudeau
00:26:17.700 and he said
00:26:18.240 no
00:26:18.600 but one of
00:26:19.860 the options
00:26:20.440 that we gave
00:26:21.120 them was
00:26:21.520 something that
00:26:22.080 I mean
00:26:22.380 I hate to use
00:26:23.300 Jean Chrétien
00:26:23.880 as an example
00:26:24.680 but Jean Chrétien
00:26:25.660 put together
00:26:26.820 a working group
00:26:28.260 of about
00:26:29.260 four or five
00:26:30.000 parliamentarians
00:26:30.860 and it took
00:26:31.380 them two years
00:26:32.360 and then they
00:26:33.240 came out
00:26:33.620 with suggestions
00:26:34.220 for changes
00:26:34.860 to the standing
00:26:35.500 order
00:26:35.760 it was workable
00:26:37.100 there wasn't
00:26:37.700 a bunch of
00:26:38.340 havoc in the
00:26:39.360 house
00:26:39.720 or in the
00:26:40.120 chamber
00:26:40.480 there was
00:26:41.160 peace
00:26:41.660 everybody
00:26:42.060 worked together
00:26:43.320 so we've
00:26:44.300 written her
00:26:44.740 a letter
00:26:45.120 two letters
00:26:45.900 actually
00:26:46.300 saying
00:26:46.680 would you
00:26:47.020 even consider
00:26:47.700 this model
00:26:48.680 it was one
00:26:49.220 of your
00:26:49.540 prime ministers
00:26:50.180 so why
00:26:50.860 wouldn't
00:26:51.140 you accept
00:26:51.660 it
00:26:51.920 and we
00:26:53.220 heard nothing
00:26:53.700 back from
00:26:54.200 her until
00:26:54.780 a week ago
00:26:55.380 when she
00:26:55.860 said
00:26:56.320 no we're
00:26:57.080 just going
00:26:57.420 to introduce
00:26:57.920 a motion
00:26:58.380 on the
00:26:58.840 floor of
00:26:59.560 the house
00:26:59.820 of commons
00:27:00.280 and we're
00:27:00.560 going to
00:27:00.740 ram these
00:27:01.140 through
00:27:01.380 so they've
00:27:02.060 been very
00:27:02.540 unreasonable
00:27:03.040 to work
00:27:03.560 with
00:27:03.700 so where
00:27:04.100 does it
00:27:04.360 go from
00:27:04.640 here
00:27:04.880 Candice
00:27:05.280 what do
00:27:06.360 we expect
00:27:06.840 to have
00:27:07.180 happen
00:27:07.500 and will
00:27:08.240 there be
00:27:08.880 a debate
00:27:09.240 about this
00:27:09.800 they've
00:27:10.740 told us
00:27:11.140 that they
00:27:11.420 will put
00:27:11.740 a motion
00:27:12.100 on the
00:27:12.520 house
00:27:12.860 floor
00:27:13.360 we haven't
00:27:14.640 seen it
00:27:15.060 yet
00:27:15.300 so if
00:27:16.540 and when
00:27:17.140 that happens
00:27:17.780 we're going
00:27:18.760 to use
00:27:19.020 every tool
00:27:19.720 available
00:27:20.240 to stop
00:27:21.280 them from
00:27:21.660 doing this
00:27:22.320 and it won't
00:27:23.800 be good
00:27:24.180 for them
00:27:24.720 and overall
00:27:25.560 it's just
00:27:26.540 not good
00:27:26.920 for the
00:27:27.240 respect
00:27:27.660 and for
00:27:28.000 the work
00:27:28.340 that we're
00:27:28.620 trying to
00:27:28.940 do here
00:27:29.260 in the
00:27:29.440 house of
00:27:29.740 commons
00:27:30.100 but they
00:27:31.520 really have
00:27:32.140 left us
00:27:32.560 very few
00:27:33.260 options
00:27:33.700 they really
00:27:34.320 are being
00:27:34.780 bullies
00:27:35.200 on this
00:27:35.540 again I
00:27:36.320 don't like
00:27:36.820 using that
00:27:37.320 term
00:27:37.640 but they
00:27:38.420 are
00:27:38.680 we've
00:27:41.040 kept the
00:27:41.280 door open
00:27:41.840 to say
00:27:42.340 look if
00:27:42.840 you change
00:27:43.300 your mind
00:27:43.660 we want
00:27:44.000 to talk
00:27:44.300 to you
00:27:44.520 is that
00:27:44.780 right
00:27:45.000 we do
00:27:45.600 and we're
00:27:45.960 willing to
00:27:46.500 compromise
00:27:47.000 and find
00:27:47.560 a workable
00:27:48.040 solution
00:27:48.540 but again
00:27:49.500 we know
00:27:50.460 this
00:27:50.700 prime
00:27:50.940 minister
00:27:51.300 there's a
00:27:52.640 level of
00:27:53.080 arrogance
00:27:53.460 that is
00:27:54.560 just getting
00:27:55.120 out of
00:27:55.540 control
00:27:55.980 and I
00:27:56.400 think that's
00:27:56.880 what we're
00:27:57.160 seeing
00:27:57.580 we're seeing
00:27:58.500 this where
00:27:59.000 the house
00:27:59.600 of commons
00:28:00.140 and you know
00:28:00.760 you minions
00:28:01.480 here in
00:28:01.900 parliament
00:28:02.240 don't really
00:28:02.780 matter
00:28:03.100 and how
00:28:03.440 dare you
00:28:03.820 challenge
00:28:04.200 me
00:28:04.460 Justin
00:28:04.900 Trudeau
00:28:05.400 so I
00:28:06.040 don't want
00:28:06.440 to be
00:28:06.740 here
00:28:07.080 and I
00:28:07.940 will push
00:28:08.440 through
00:28:08.700 what I
00:28:09.080 want to
00:28:09.440 because
00:28:09.820 you know
00:28:10.300 I'm large
00:28:10.760 and I'm
00:28:11.040 in charge
00:28:11.480 it should
00:28:12.440 be noted
00:28:12.900 that this
00:28:13.380 is the
00:28:13.960 second time
00:28:14.560 they tried
00:28:14.900 to push
00:28:15.280 these
00:28:15.580 through
00:28:15.860 in the
00:28:16.660 short
00:28:17.040 term
00:28:18.020 of the
00:28:18.600 Trudeau
00:28:19.240 government
00:28:19.540 so far
00:28:20.200 the last
00:28:21.120 time
00:28:21.380 it was
00:28:21.580 kind of
00:28:21.840 derailed
00:28:22.260 by
00:28:22.600 Justin
00:28:23.040 Trudeau's
00:28:23.440 elbow
00:28:23.720 on the
00:28:24.920 floor
00:28:25.100 of the
00:28:25.280 house
00:28:25.420 of
00:28:25.560 commons
00:28:25.900 when the
00:28:26.240 errant
00:28:26.480 elbow
00:28:26.920 hit
00:28:27.820 an
00:28:28.300 opposition
00:28:28.780 MP
00:28:29.400 and then
00:28:30.800 they
00:28:31.000 kind of
00:28:31.360 retreated
00:28:31.800 from
00:28:31.980 that
00:28:32.300 but it's
00:28:32.840 really
00:28:33.160 the same
00:28:33.960 kind
00:28:34.520 of
00:28:34.860 way
00:28:35.260 that
00:28:35.440 they're
00:28:35.580 trying
00:28:35.740 to do
00:28:36.020 things
00:28:36.400 here's
00:28:36.900 you know
00:28:37.460 here's
00:28:37.780 our plan
00:28:38.320 we're
00:28:38.660 going to
00:28:38.840 vote on
00:28:39.220 it
00:28:39.340 we're
00:28:39.520 not
00:28:39.680 going
00:28:39.800 to
00:28:39.860 have
00:28:40.040 any
00:28:40.200 consensus
00:28:40.640 we're
00:28:40.940 just
00:28:41.080 going
00:28:41.200 to
00:28:41.300 ram
00:28:41.480 it
00:28:41.600 through
00:28:41.840 that's
00:28:42.540 right
00:28:42.680 they have
00:28:43.020 tried
00:28:43.260 this
00:28:43.500 before
00:28:43.940 a year
00:28:44.820 and a half
00:28:45.180 ago
00:28:45.440 it didn't
00:28:46.020 go well
00:28:46.520 for them
00:28:47.240 but maybe
00:28:48.160 they've thought
00:28:48.680 that there's
00:28:49.220 enough time
00:28:50.220 has passed
00:28:50.800 and again
00:28:51.560 why it didn't
00:28:52.260 go well
00:28:52.580 for them
00:28:52.960 the last
00:28:53.500 time
00:28:53.740 is because
00:28:54.340 Trudeau
00:28:55.800 lost his
00:28:56.420 temper
00:28:56.760 and came
00:28:57.300 charging
00:28:57.720 across
00:28:58.260 the
00:28:58.740 house
00:28:58.940 of
00:28:59.080 commons
00:28:59.340 floor
00:28:59.680 unbelievable
00:29:01.140 to watch
00:29:02.320 you were
00:29:02.640 there
00:29:02.820 I was
00:29:03.220 there
00:29:03.460 it was
00:29:04.560 unbelievable
00:29:05.000 to watch
00:29:05.740 but I
00:29:06.480 don't think
00:29:07.320 that was
00:29:07.740 just
00:29:08.020 out of
00:29:08.920 character
00:29:09.300 for him
00:29:09.800 I think
00:29:10.520 he has
00:29:11.700 been accustomed
00:29:12.760 to
00:29:13.020 especially
00:29:13.380 the last
00:29:13.860 year and a
00:29:14.240 half
00:29:14.520 getting his
00:29:15.540 way
00:29:15.900 and doing
00:29:16.820 whatever
00:29:17.140 he wants
00:29:17.700 and it's
00:29:18.600 this arrogance
00:29:19.480 and listen
00:29:20.640 this isn't
00:29:21.220 just about
00:29:21.840 us in the
00:29:22.520 house of
00:29:22.820 commons
00:29:23.140 we have
00:29:23.620 a job
00:29:23.980 to do
00:29:24.360 we recognize
00:29:25.140 there's
00:29:25.420 going to
00:29:25.560 be
00:29:25.680 challenges
00:29:26.120 but it's
00:29:27.000 arrogance
00:29:27.660 and disrespect
00:29:28.420 to the
00:29:28.860 Canadian
00:29:29.160 people
00:29:29.880 to people
00:29:30.580 in Canada
00:29:31.120 who are
00:29:31.480 working
00:29:31.840 hard
00:29:32.320 who play
00:29:33.740 by the
00:29:34.140 rules
00:29:34.460 who have
00:29:35.280 a lot
00:29:35.700 of
00:29:35.840 questions
00:29:36.300 for what
00:29:37.060 the government
00:29:37.480 in regards
00:29:38.020 to what
00:29:38.360 the government
00:29:38.740 is doing
00:29:39.280 it's
00:29:39.940 disrespectful
00:29:40.420 to them
00:29:41.220 and this
00:29:41.620 is the
00:29:41.880 wider
00:29:42.140 issue
00:29:42.540 isn't it
00:29:42.920 it's not
00:29:43.280 just about
00:29:43.720 us as
00:29:44.040 MPs
00:29:44.540 and the
00:29:44.740 rules
00:29:44.980 that we
00:29:45.420 are playing
00:29:45.900 by
00:29:46.180 but it
00:29:46.760 really
00:29:47.040 is a
00:29:47.600 greater
00:29:47.860 indicator
00:29:48.400 about how
00:29:49.540 people
00:29:50.280 throughout
00:29:51.320 Canada
00:29:51.720 are being
00:29:52.460 disrespected
00:29:53.140 and ignored
00:29:53.720 exactly
00:29:54.640 and we're
00:29:56.740 seeing this
00:29:57.280 on so many
00:29:58.060 levels
00:29:58.400 from the
00:29:58.740 liberals
00:29:59.000 whether
00:29:59.380 again
00:29:59.740 whether
00:30:00.000 it's
00:30:00.340 misuse
00:30:01.220 of
00:30:01.380 taxpayers
00:30:01.900 dollars
00:30:02.440 I mean
00:30:02.900 we just
00:30:03.520 heard how
00:30:03.900 they've
00:30:04.220 spent
00:30:04.500 $30,000
00:30:05.340 which
00:30:07.240 you know
00:30:07.540 what
00:30:07.780 that's
00:30:08.300 for some
00:30:08.660 people
00:30:09.040 some people
00:30:10.160 make
00:30:10.480 that
00:30:11.900 I mean
00:30:12.700 where I
00:30:13.220 live
00:30:13.400 people make
00:30:13.900 $30,000
00:30:14.520 a year
00:30:15.100 so that's a
00:30:16.760 living for
00:30:17.200 many people
00:30:18.400 the liberals
00:30:19.540 the liberals
00:30:19.560 used $30,000
00:30:20.440 to take
00:30:21.300 some very
00:30:22.440 wealthy
00:30:22.920 executives
00:30:23.860 to a
00:30:24.900 play in
00:30:25.400 New York
00:30:25.940 you know
00:30:26.660 because they
00:30:27.260 just think
00:30:27.820 that they're
00:30:28.560 entitled to
00:30:29.200 use taxpayers
00:30:29.740 dollars the
00:30:30.420 way that
00:30:30.680 they want
00:30:31.080 to
00:30:31.260 we've
00:30:31.740 seen
00:30:32.020 offices
00:30:33.020 being
00:30:33.340 renovated
00:30:33.940 for a
00:30:34.320 million dollar
00:30:34.820 costs
00:30:35.320 we're seeing
00:30:35.840 obviously
00:30:36.820 the prime
00:30:37.240 minister
00:30:37.520 flying all
00:30:38.200 around the
00:30:38.580 world
00:30:38.820 for all
00:30:39.200 of his
00:30:39.500 vanity
00:30:39.880 tours
00:30:40.380 and people
00:30:42.120 are struggling
00:30:42.840 people are
00:30:43.360 struggling
00:30:43.700 to save
00:30:44.980 for their
00:30:45.340 kids
00:30:45.560 education
00:30:46.200 to pay
00:30:47.060 for their
00:30:47.400 kids hockey
00:30:48.120 because they
00:30:48.580 can't use
00:30:49.020 it as a
00:30:49.380 deduction
00:30:49.760 anymore
00:30:50.340 parents have
00:30:51.760 seen income
00:30:52.340 splitting being
00:30:53.100 taken away
00:30:54.020 these are real
00:30:55.980 challenges that
00:30:57.000 Canadians are
00:30:57.980 facing and we
00:30:59.200 have a prime
00:30:59.720 minister who
00:31:00.280 is completely
00:31:01.100 oblivious to
00:31:02.060 it and is
00:31:03.300 just thinking
00:31:03.760 about what's
00:31:04.300 in his best
00:31:05.000 interests
00:31:05.520 and I think
00:31:06.220 that's the
00:31:06.680 wider issue
00:31:07.420 for our
00:31:07.920 listeners too
00:31:08.620 because this
00:31:09.940 is kind of
00:31:10.960 part and
00:31:11.320 parcel of how
00:31:12.160 the Trudeau
00:31:12.540 government is
00:31:13.180 dealing with
00:31:13.600 issues it's
00:31:14.080 not just about
00:31:14.840 the standing
00:31:15.640 orders of the
00:31:16.080 House of
00:31:16.380 Commons it's
00:31:16.920 about respect
00:31:17.680 for Canadians
00:31:18.340 and really
00:31:19.540 living up to
00:31:21.320 the promises
00:31:22.240 that Justin
00:31:23.720 Trudeau made
00:31:24.500 on the
00:31:25.220 election campaign
00:31:26.180 that he was
00:31:27.680 going to be
00:31:28.020 different he
00:31:28.960 was going to
00:31:29.280 be more
00:31:29.600 open he
00:31:30.380 was going
00:31:30.640 to be more
00:31:30.940 transparent he
00:31:32.300 was going to
00:31:32.580 be more
00:31:32.880 respectful and
00:31:33.900 all of that
00:31:34.320 basically we're
00:31:35.040 seeing on
00:31:35.500 issue after
00:31:36.100 issue after
00:31:36.660 issue is
00:31:37.100 going out
00:31:37.460 the window
00:31:37.840 on issue
00:31:39.060 after issue
00:31:39.940 you're right
00:31:40.820 Tony what
00:31:41.320 we are seeing
00:31:42.020 is a person
00:31:44.600 who campaigned
00:31:45.780 saying one
00:31:46.760 thing and
00:31:47.720 he's doing
00:31:48.340 completely the
00:31:48.980 opposite it's
00:31:49.700 like when you
00:31:50.140 scratch away at
00:31:51.120 the surface of
00:31:51.860 Justin Trudeau
00:31:52.760 what you see is
00:31:54.180 not what you
00:31:54.740 get
00:31:55.040 well I'm going
00:31:56.340 to leave it at
00:31:57.220 that Candace
00:31:57.880 Bergen thank you
00:31:58.680 for being on
00:31:59.460 Blueprint the
00:32:00.300 official opposition
00:32:01.100 the Conservative
00:32:01.520 Party of Canada's
00:32:02.240 official podcast
00:32:03.440 talking about
00:32:04.420 standing orders
00:32:05.420 but the wider
00:32:06.080 issues of
00:32:07.140 why the
00:32:08.360 opposition the
00:32:09.340 Conservative Party
00:32:10.080 we are standing
00:32:11.220 up for Canadians
00:32:11.960 and the Liberal
00:32:12.300 Government is not
00:32:12.920 but thank you for
00:32:13.480 being on the
00:32:13.880 show it's been a
00:32:14.500 pleasure thank
00:32:15.100 you
00:32:15.480 thank you for
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