The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - It’s Budget Day! (but you may want to hold your applause)

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprint. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your

00:00:12.700 host, Jamie Schmael, member of Parliament for Halliburton, Cawortho-Legs, Brock, with new content

00:00:16.360 for you every single Tuesday at 1.30 p.m. Eastern Time. We ask that you like, comment, subscribe,

00:00:21.520 and share this program. Of course, you can download it on platforms like CastBox, iTunes,

00:00:26.240 Google Play, and Spotify, and you will want to do it because today is Budget Day, the day some of us

00:00:32.940 have been waiting for. And to talk about that, and of course, much, much more, we have Jasraj Hallin,

00:00:38.780 the member of Parliament for Calgary Forest Lawn, also the finance critic. Thanks for coming on the

00:00:42.280 show again. Hey, Jamie, thanks for having me. And within a year, a second time, I must have done

00:00:46.600 something good the last time. Absolutely. I think the ratings went through the roof when you showed

00:00:51.320 up, so we have to have you back on. Happy to help in any way I can. And of course, it's Budget Day

00:00:55.700 today. That's right. I think painful for some. We're going to find out how bad the books are

00:01:01.360 or what they project and all that good stuff. But I don't usually do this. I think we're going to

00:01:07.080 start with the clip because we were talking off air how this clip is just cringeworthy. Okay,

00:01:12.080 it's the finance minister talking about the budget. Let's get Super Producer Nick to queue up

00:01:16.760 Cut 1. Let's play Cut 1 and then we'll get into it. Right now, for too many young Canadians, 0.98

00:01:21.860 the promise of Canada, the kind of Canada that older Canadians came of age in, it doesn't feel 0.99

00:01:28.640 like it's working. People can have a good job. They can be working hard, but they are just not sure

00:01:34.860 that's going to lead to a safe and prosperous and secure life, including being able to buy your own

00:01:41.180 home. And that's something that we have to do something about.

00:01:44.780 Who's been in charge the last eight or so years when stuff started to get a little rocky?

00:01:53.420 It's like she just woke up and it's like, what's just been happening? What do you make of this?

00:01:59.460 Jamie, we can finally agree on something with her. Can you believe it? Isn't she kind of saying

00:02:06.220 that Canada feels broken? Isn't that what she got from that clip? I think she got around to that,

00:02:11.060 yes. But of course, after eight years of this, NDP government spending more than every government

00:02:16.100 before them combined, causing 40-year highs in inflation, causing the most rapid interest rate

00:02:22.200 hikes that never seen in Canadian history. And then on top of that, slamming on taxes like the

00:02:28.020 carbon tax scam onto Canadians with some of the worst policies, the worst productivity growth that

00:02:34.540 we've ever seen in this country. Of course, everyone's going to feel like that. She's absolutely right.

00:02:39.180 She just forgot to mention, it's after eight years of her government that we're here now.

00:02:44.700 Even the Prime Minister, like there was about a year ago, they were saying almost the effect that

00:02:50.860 Canadians never had it so good. So they finally spoke to a few of their constituents, it seems,

00:02:56.320 realized that, yeah, outside the bubble, life is getting pretty hard. And it's like they just woke up,

00:03:01.940 the Prime Minister seemed the other day like, yeah, housing's really bad.

00:03:05.420 It's like, you've been in charge. How is this news to you all of a sudden?

00:03:11.260 Absolutely. And look, the sad part is that they can deny, deflect all they want. And they can try to blame

00:03:18.460 others for the problems that they've caused. But the reality is, is that Canadians are the ones paying 0.57

00:03:23.340 for the incompetency of this government. We see two million people visiting a food bank in a single month.

00:03:28.380 And just this year, a million more will visit a food bank. A third of those people are going to be children.

00:03:34.220 Can you believe that? People are going hungry in this country. People are, there's people with good

00:03:39.100 paying jobs. She's right. There are people that are doing all the right things that were promised

00:03:43.660 this thing called the Canadian dream, like immigrant families like mine who came here,

00:03:47.740 or the ones that have lived here their whole life. But that Canada is not Canada anymore to a lot of people.

00:03:53.180 The promise of Canada is not there. When you see people with good paying jobs, sometimes in some cases,

00:03:59.500 double income earners in one house, having to go to a food bank, or living out of their cars.

00:04:04.780 Some students are living under bridges. This is the reality of incompetent policies of a liberal

00:04:09.500 NDP government that keeps telling you you've never had it so good over and over again. Yet the reality

00:04:16.140 is, is it's a complete opposite. We need to reverse course and we need a common sense conservative

00:04:21.820 government under Pierre Polyev to make sure that we restore that Canadian dream once again.

00:04:26.540 Even, even how they've been dealing with it, right? So the, the first was to die, deny it was even

00:04:33.420 happening that, that people shouldn't believe their lion eyes when they picked up a pack of bacon or a

00:04:39.740 chicken from the grocery store and notice that the price just keeps going up with a package keeps

00:04:44.300 getting smaller for the same or more price. Like they denied it. Then they finally came to realize it.

00:04:50.700 And now we're going to see the budget later on today in just a few hours. And we're going to see how

00:04:56.460 the, the people who promised utopia and only a bit more time, a bit more resources, and we'll get

00:05:01.660 there, will propose the next stage of their plan. Absolutely. And look, what Canadians can expect

00:05:06.700 from this government's budget is going to be more pain, more debt, more deficit, more false promises.

00:05:15.020 Never forget that this is, this is the same government, and Christia Freeland, who said just

00:05:20.860 two years ago that we will, we're on a path to balance the budget. And then she turned around

00:05:25.820 and said, just kidding. She did a complete 180 and said, we'll balance the budget.

00:05:29.900 In a couple of days too. Yeah, yeah. Never. And that's, that's the track record of this government.

00:05:34.620 But what does that mean? That means that we saw just recently, the Bank of Canada had to hold their

00:05:40.460 rates once again. That means they're holding high rates for longer. All those mortgage borrowers or

00:05:46.780 renters or people looking to get into the, into housing, or those especially that are going to

00:05:51.500 renew their mortgages, are devastated by that news. It's a slap in the face of hardworking Canadians

00:05:57.980 who are just looking for some light. But it's the governor of the Bank of Canada that kept,

00:06:02.300 that has repeated over and over again, if the government does not stop spending and create

00:06:07.340 these deficits like they keep doing, it's going to be harder and harder for them to bring down these

00:06:11.660 interest rates. He's the governor of the Bank of Canada has admitted now twice that the government's

00:06:17.900 fiscal policy, their spending, their deficits, and his one lever of increasing interest rates

00:06:24.380 to try to tame inflation are working in opposite directions. The government is working in opposite

00:06:29.100 direction of what the governor of the Bank of Canada is doing. Although it is the governor of

00:06:33.340 the Bank of Canada that also allowed it to get this bad, that let Justin Trudeau print so much money

00:06:39.020 that it got to the point that is today. And now we see Canada and Canadians are most at risk in the G7

00:06:45.020 for a mortgage default crisis because of those high interest rates. There's people that are renewing

00:06:49.580 their mortgages at double and sometimes triple the rate. That can be up to $1,000 extra a month that

00:06:55.500 they have to take out of their, their, their paychecks, which by the way, payroll taxes went up April,

00:07:01.980 January the 1st as well. And on April the 1st, Canadians got slammed with another 23% increase

00:07:07.900 on the carbon tax scam. I'm glad you brought up the Bank of Canada because I, I, I can imagine

00:07:13.420 the stress that the governor is under when, when looking at the, the big picture, right? You have

00:07:19.100 a housing crisis, you have houses being built, but in some cases, owners not able to take possession

00:07:25.580 because the rates have skyrocketed to the point where they can't afford those houses. Some people

00:07:30.460 have lost value on their houses because might have bought for higher rates, all of this and much,

00:07:35.660 much more, all contributing at the same thing. But at the core of it all is the government's fiscal

00:07:43.420 policy that will not allow this relief to come. Absolutely. On top of Justin Trudeau spending

00:07:50.060 $600 billion, that's more than every government before him combined that made that inflation rate

00:07:56.620 at 40 year highs that made, you know, the interest rates go up. On top of that, right now we see the

00:08:02.460 top line inflation number as high as it is. It's above what, what it should be.

00:08:07.100 One of the contributing factors to that, and when we're talking about the governor of the Bank of

00:08:11.020 Canada that he admitted to was the carbon tax. The carbon tax contributes to 0.6 of that total

00:08:18.300 inflation number on its own. And any, any increase in that, like we saw on April the 1st, it's an extra

00:08:24.700 0.15 percent on top of that. So when our common sense leader, common sense conservative leader,

00:08:31.660 Pierre Polyev talks about axing the tax, it's not just making cost of gas, groceries and home heating

00:08:37.580 more, less expensive. What it also means is taking that 0.6 plus the any type, any increase off of the

00:08:46.860 total inflation number. What does that mean for Canadians and, and, you know, mortgage borrowers

00:08:52.940 are that interest rates could come down faster if we got rid of the tax. That's how

00:08:59.340 much pain this carbon tax scam is causing on Canadians. Justin Trudeau and the NDP are absolutely

00:09:06.220 obsessed with this carbon tax scam. Although 70% of Canadians and 70% of premiers are telling them to,

00:09:15.260 first they ask them to spike the hike, but they're against this tax because of how much pain it's

00:09:19.740 causing in their lives. Absolutely. But the Liberals will say there is no, the increase isn't felt,

00:09:25.900 right? The carbon tax doesn't really do anything. At that point, I say, well, then raise the price of

00:09:30.220 the carbon tax. If you're so confident it doesn't do anything, raise the price and see what happens

00:09:35.100 to the cost of everything, right? Yeah, well, it goes to a lot of the falsehoods. You know, one of the,

00:09:39.660 one of the biggest lies was Canadians get more back in these so-called rebates. Well,

00:09:44.540 the public budgeting officer, the parliamentary budgeting officer, the one that Justin Trudeau

00:09:48.540 appointed, by the way, proved that on average, more Canadian families will be worse off than what

00:09:56.140 they get back in these so-called rebates. And that's why we say so-called because I'll give you

00:10:00.460 two quick examples. In Alberta, an average family will pay $2,900 into this tax. By the, by the government's

00:10:07.820 own admission, Christia Freeland at committee, she said she was bragging about Albertans getting 0.99

00:10:12.380 $1,800 back. She is way off on these so-called rebates. And Ontario, where you're from and where

00:10:20.300 she's from, an average family will pay $1,600 into this tax. They only get $1,000 back. So on average,

00:10:27.340 Canadian families are worse off. The second lie was that this is somehow supposed to fix the environment,

00:10:32.300 supposed to fix emissions. Their own government department says, well, we're not even tracking that.

00:10:38.140 And, and think about it. Why would you? Maybe, maybe it's like Trudeau, it's not worth the cost

00:10:43.020 to track it because they'll see that there's no, it's not bringing down emissions. Emissions have not

00:10:46.940 come down. And in fact, Canada fell in the ranking for its climate plan from 50, from 58 to 62 out of 67.

00:10:56.540 Yeah. We fell in our ranking, yet they brag about this carbon tax that's supposed to

00:11:01.180 leave more money in Canadians' pockets and make us better off with the environment. It's done none of

00:11:06.540 that, except caused more, it's had more economic pain and less environmental gain. And I think that

00:11:13.340 plays into what we're seeing on the ground in, in, in, in Canada, right? Like you're having a, you're

00:11:19.580 having a governing class of people telling you everything's okay, or we'll fix it with another

00:11:24.300 government program. Costs still seem to go up. Taxes seem to go up. Life gets harder and harder,

00:11:29.340 but the governing class is saying, we got this and nothing is actually happening to better their

00:11:34.860 lives because you can't tax your way to prosperity. That's right. You know, it's like the arsonist

00:11:40.300 fireman that lights the fire and has the hose in their hand that says, I'm going to look like a hero,

00:11:47.260 but there's not that much water coming out. So they're, they're trying, but it's not fixing the

00:11:53.260 fire that, and literally the fire that they're doing, the fire is the fire, is the, the flames of

00:11:59.900 inflation. They keep pouring more and more fuel on top of it. And that's why interest rates are so high.

00:12:05.660 This is why people can't make payments. This is why on average people's, more and more people's

00:12:10.300 paychecks are going towards shelter and housing costs. It's because the government keeps on spending

00:12:16.140 money and the governor cannot lower those interest rates because of that. And then they get the

00:12:21.500 pile on effect of this carbon tax scam, where it, you know, you're, you're, you're going to charge

00:12:27.580 the tax to the farmer who create, makes the food. You're going to charge a trucker who ships the food.

00:12:33.020 You're going to put that tax, the same tax on the people that sell the food. At the end of the day,

00:12:37.660 the Canadians buying food are going to have to pay that tax ultimately. So you're right. They have

00:12:41.980 these, you know, these so-called solutions or, or they call it, you know, these band-aid solutions.

00:12:47.180 But at the end of the day, until Canadians can see lower costs at the gas pump,

00:12:52.300 at the grocery store, on their rent and mortgage payments, they're not really going to see much of

00:12:58.220 a difference in their life. But that can only happen under a common sense, conservative government.

00:13:03.260 Under Pierre Polyev, that's going to axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime.

00:13:09.180 Let's queue up cut two. In this, in, in this clip, we're going to hear from Jenna Sud,

00:13:13.580 she's the Minister of Families and Social Development. Government has a few ways to raise 1.00

00:13:18.220 revenue, right? Taxing, printing, borrowing. Those are pretty much it, right? We've seen a combination

00:13:23.660 of all those during the last few years. Of course, you know, you can't really borrow too much more.

00:13:30.860 You can't print anymore. You're going to, you know, devalue the currency even more, cause

00:13:35.180 further price inflation as well. So we got to talk about taxes. So let's play cut two

00:13:41.260 and have a, have a listen to what Minister Suns has to say. Play cut two. 0.82

00:13:45.580 Your government no longer seems to care about budget secrecy. You've announced, you know,

00:13:49.020 already seven different measures that, that it will be in the budget. So I, why, why does there

00:13:53.260 need to be any secrecy around taxes? I don't think there, there's anything to be said about secrecy,

00:13:58.460 Vachie. I think what you're seeing leading up to the budget is us sharing some of those thoughts,

00:14:04.620 some of those investments as we get closer to budget day. Of course, there'll be more to come,

00:14:10.460 come April 16th. And I trust that we'll be able to have that conversation again.

00:14:15.980 So can I ask you to be clear? Will there be new taxes?

00:14:18.620 As I said, we'll see the budget as it comes out on April 16th.

00:14:21.420 So no clear answer at this point on whether or not, I can't say for sure that there won't,

00:14:25.260 to Canadians watching tonight, there won't be any new taxes.

00:14:28.780 What do you think? The budget's a few hours away.

00:14:31.020 Ridiculous. Ridiculous. The flip-flop, the flip-flop, the backpedaling, the backtracking, 0.99

00:14:37.020 because how can you trust this government? Like I said, they're literally lighting the fire

00:14:45.500 and fueling those flames with more and more inflation.

00:14:48.940 Look, our message has been clear about what we want from this budget. We want to see them axe the tax,

00:14:55.820 especially Bill C-234, that would take the carbon tax off for our farmers and our food. 0.99

00:15:01.420 That's demand number one by Pierre Polyev. Number two, we need them to cap the spending.

00:15:08.380 We want them to bring in a dollar-for-dollar law that would help bring down the cost of government

00:15:15.100 spending. We need to cap that spending or what we call fix the budget. We need to build more homes and

00:15:19.740 not more bureaucracy. We've seen this government shovel billions of dollars and make these grand

00:15:26.380 announcements and photo ops that have created more bureaucracy. They literally are shoveling more

00:15:31.820 money to say, create another department. We want to see action. So we have a real plan. Our leader has

00:15:39.100 tabled that plan, that we want to see municipalities have 15 percent more permits closed. And if they don't

00:15:47.820 meet that target, it should be just like a salesperson or like a builder. If you can meet the target or

00:15:53.740 exceed it, you will get a bonus in infrastructure funds. If you don't meet it, then we'll withhold

00:15:59.340 that money until that target is met. Because for too long under Justin Trudeau, there's been lots

00:16:05.260 of bureaucracy created and lots of, you know, dangling of lots of money for just these great photo ops

00:16:11.340 beside these ministers. But no homes have been built. And in fact, there's going to be less homes built

00:16:17.020 this year than when in the 1970s when we had way less population. Can you believe that?

00:16:22.540 That's true. That's true. And those high interest rates that we keep talking about are stopping

00:16:26.780 builders from building and buyers from buying. So we need, we need to see to them axe attacks,

00:16:33.580 we need to see build the homes and we want them to cap the spending. Simple.

00:16:37.580 Not for them. Not for them. And you used to be a builder in a previous life. That's right.

00:16:43.100 So you know all about this. Look, whether you're a builder or everyday Canadian,

00:16:47.900 no one is saying we want more government in our lives. And we know that that's the path that this

00:16:52.060 liberal NDP government wants Canada to go down is have the government control everything you watch,

00:16:58.540 everything you say, everything you do, and what you do with your money. And in contrast,

00:17:03.580 we have a common sense conservative leader, the next Prime Minister, Pierre Polyev,

00:17:07.260 that wants to give you back your freedom, wants to restore that Canadian dream that everyone either

00:17:12.780 came here for or that's known that their whole life until we've seen eight years of Justin Trudeau.

00:17:18.620 That is the dream that he is going to restore with our common sense plan to do our four simple

00:17:24.620 things. It will take a lot of work to undo what these Liberals have done, but we will axe a tax,

00:17:29.820 build a homes, fix a budget, and stop the crime. Let's free up taxpayers' money from taxation. Let's

00:17:36.140 Canadians put that money to work into the economy. Let's get economic growth happening in this country.

00:17:41.900 Our book's under control. Let the Bank of Canada reduce interest rates so that people can afford

00:17:46.460 to be happy again. That's right. And to your point, productivity has not gone up in this country.

00:17:51.900 No, it hasn't. The Bank of Canada literally broke the emergency glass saying,

00:17:56.300 this is a huge threat to Canada's prosperity. Our GDP per capita is declining. It's been declining for

00:18:05.980 six straight quarters. It's worse than it was since 2018. And what does that mean? That means Canadians 1.00

00:18:12.220 are getting poorer. It's because Justin Trudeau and NDP, with their really bad policies, anti-business,

00:18:19.020 anti-growth policies, like their anti-energy, anti-Alberta, anti-any-resource policy has been

00:18:26.780 driving more and more business out of Canada, less investment coming in. Literally, we just saw

00:18:31.820 Greece come here. Yes. First it was Germany, then it was Japan, now Greece. For some reason,

00:18:39.260 Justin Trudeau cannot find a business case for growth and powerful paychecks for our people,

00:18:44.780 but he can sure find a business case to give dollars to dictators abroad that, you know,

00:18:50.140 helps them fuel their wars like we see with Putin and other places that don't have environmental

00:18:56.220 standards like Canada does or human rights standards. This is after years of Justin Trudeau.

00:19:01.500 We need to have common sense back. We need to get Canada looking like it's back and open for business

00:19:06.300 again so that we can get powerful paychecks for our people, get our economy. We can get growth here,

00:19:11.900 productivity. And hey, if we want to help with global emissions, one great way is to replace

00:19:17.500 that dirty dictator oil with clean, low carbon Canadian energy. I love it. All right. I got to

00:19:24.460 let you go because budget's coming down. I'm sure you have a lot of things to do, but I do appreciate

00:19:28.300 your time coming out. As you know, the guests get the final word, so take it away. Jamie, look, I'll just

00:19:33.660 have to, I'll say once again, we're going to keep fighting for Canadians. And in this budget, we want

00:19:40.300 them to axe the tax, build the homes and not bureaucracy and cap the spending. And once we have

00:19:45.980 Pierre Polyev as the Prime Minister of Canada, we're going to axe the tax, bring down the cost of gas,

00:19:51.100 groceries and home heating. We're going to build the homes and not bureaucracy by incentivizing

00:19:56.300 municipalities to build, build, build. We're going to fix the budget so that inflation and interest

00:20:02.060 rates can come down and that people don't have to worry about losing their homes by implementing a

00:20:06.220 dollar-for-dollar law. So every dollar spent by any department, they have to find a dollar of saving.

00:20:11.340 That is how we're going to control the spending and get rid of wasteful things like 22 billion dollars

00:20:15.980 in consultants because the ministers are too incompetent, these liberal ministers, to do their own job.

00:20:20.940 And last, we see all across this country, Jamie, crime, chaos, disorder like we've never seen before.

00:20:27.500 We need to bring back solid policies like we saw under the Harper government, and that's what's going to stop the crime.

00:20:33.580 We're going to focus on jail and not bail for repeat offenders and bring back mandatory minimums

00:20:39.260 so those repeat offenders will stay in jail and not get bail and be relaxed like we see these soft

00:20:44.380 on crime policies that have wreaked havoc on our country, where people are saying this is not the

00:20:49.260 same Canada that we knew before. That's the restoring of the Canadian dream that Pierre Polyev as Prime

00:20:55.660 Minister is going to do. Sounds like common sense to me. Common sense. We're going to bring it home.

00:20:59.660 I love it. Jazraz Hallin, thanks very much for coming on the show again.

00:21:03.260 I do appreciate your time, love your message, and we'll look forward to seeing you really busy

00:21:07.340 in just a few hours dealing with the budget and the fallout from it.

00:21:10.700 Thanks, Jamie.

00:21:11.260 Thanks again. Thank you for your time, and thank you for yours.

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - April 17, 2024

It’s Budget Day! (but you may want to hold your applause)

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