The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - It’s that time of year again!

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your

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00:00:27.480 on today's show it is the good the bad and the ugly a look back at the year 2025 to do that

00:00:33.020 we once again bring on kelly mccauley the member of parliament for edmonton west edmonton mall

00:00:37.640 and the fill-in for the fill-in we have phil florence a member of parliament for north

00:00:43.820 humberland clark and we mean that with love because we had tom commitch was the regular

00:00:51.100 yeah and then he of course is deputy assistant deputy speaker or deputy speaker sorry and then

00:00:56.500 jazraz salon of course the finance critic yes we had him but you're a big upgrade you're a better

00:01:01.480 big upgrade i think so yeah i think that's a step above but always great to have you gentlemen

00:01:06.540 it's a balance to me

00:01:07.880 that's right hopefully we're going to bring up the debate the good the bad and the kelly

00:01:14.540 and the kelly yes actually that's the uh that's the ugly of the show

00:01:18.480 oh wow okay all right let's take let's take a look uh back at the year that was here 2025 a lot

00:01:26.460 happens it was a strange year of course parliament was prorogued and i'm going to get to that that's

00:01:31.560 a runner-up for the ugly uh we had the election and then a bunch of other things happened so let's

00:01:37.120 take a look at the good why don't we start with the positive the good okay so we had a runner-up

00:01:42.000 was the elimination of the carbon tax elimination of the dark conduct the same carbon tax that the 0.63

00:01:48.240 kearney liberals said would uh save the world from flooding from hurricanes and then also if you

00:01:55.160 didn't support meant the world would burn that's right a carbon tax yes and quite funny for years

00:02:02.160 and years they stated the carbon tax wasn't inflationary yes repeatedly and it's quite funny

00:02:08.740 now we see the budget kearney's budget five times mentions that the carbon tax uh elimination of

00:02:15.960 helped reduce inflation the bank of canada puts it in writing yeah that it was inflationary the imf

00:02:22.200 comments on it the parliamentary budget office um department of finance and the public accounts

00:02:29.800 the actual books of the audited public accounts noted how it was actually inflationary it's it's funny

00:02:36.140 it goes from saving the world and causing no added costs that's right yeah wow yeah wait a minute

00:02:41.740 yeah people are but philip actually dragged it out in committee way yeah yeah it was a couple years

00:02:47.140 ago when finance committee when uh governor of the bank tiff macklin admitted and put it in writing

00:02:52.300 actually that uh somewhere around a half point to a point of inflation was fully dependent on the

00:02:57.500 carbon tax right and so amazingly it's actually outperformed that by i think most statistical analysis

00:03:02.500 that it was actually good for one or two percent and you say one or two percent that's not a huge

00:03:06.480 deal but in reality that can be something like a third of inflation if we're at target or or a fifth

00:03:11.980 of inflation simply by removing the carbon tax and you know we heard over and over again fellas

00:03:17.040 that this was revenue that's right and no negative no big deal it was like santa claus they give you

00:03:23.220 this great rebate and you didn't have to pay anything for it right it turns out virginia

00:03:27.500 yeah shocking shocking industrial carbon tax you know then we had liberal ministers out showing

00:03:34.040 videos themselves pumping gas oh yeah it's like a jedi mind trick eh forget the last 10 years it was 0.82

00:03:42.940 like the next day too right like they went from like carbon tax carbon tax carbon tax it's so great

00:03:48.040 it's amazing mark holland talking about you're gonna burn the world down by taking your family on a road

00:03:52.740 trip to oh yeah we're great we got rid of that carbon yeah that was that was bad that's just

00:03:57.700 horrible policy keep in mind mark holland uh when his minister of health also said canadians were

00:04:02.420 gargling with gasoline over lack of dental care yeah that's a good point that's good okay that

00:04:07.500 actually sounds like a pretty good good but uh all the good work that we've been doing as an

00:04:12.120 opposition of parliament you gotta say that like there's gonna be a few graphics here just the

00:04:16.080 amendments to different bills private members bills just just slowly chipping away at the liberal agenda

00:04:22.120 here yeah no sorry go ahead yeah i was just gonna say it's and it's amazing actually the the wide

00:04:27.220 breadth of some of these pmbs a lot of them of course on criminal justice we have seen a incredible

00:04:33.140 increase in crime whether it be from sexual assaults on to assaults on to uh more petty crimes but it is

00:04:39.420 expanded exponentially and a lot of those were deemed to help victims which is an incredible great work

00:04:44.040 um to other issues like on finance otherwise my colleague annum chambers has put forward a couple of

00:04:49.880 great pmbs on finance and money laundering that are there to improve the canadian economy so yeah

00:04:54.980 you know 21 private member bills already tabled uh seven opposition motions uh work done to eliminate the

00:05:04.060 um capital gains tax changes obviously the carbon tax yeah it's it's the liberal narrative that we don't put

00:05:11.660 anything forward we just complain but it shows that besides the vast amount of policies that of ours that

00:05:17.880 ours that carney adopted we also have fair amount of substantive um legislation brought forward by our mps

00:05:25.980 important ones like on um natural health foods yeah on criminal justice issues taxation issues a whole

00:05:33.480 breadth of things to help canadians and i don't even think that list includes amendments within legislation

00:05:39.980 done a committee i believe and so oh this is purely private members bills yeah so there's a lot of work happening a lot of moving

00:05:46.980 parts here let's go to the bad here we have a runner up it's c9 so for this is fairly new we haven't

00:05:53.940 mentioned this on the show before because it is a developing topic but c9 philip can you tell us what c9 is yeah so

00:06:00.980 so c9 uh was meant to be a bill or it was sorry it was claimed to be a bill i think it's a better way of putting it by the

00:06:08.980 um to protect canadians against hate which is a laudable goal uh but they did anything but that

00:06:15.940 in the actual legislation and it was really um it was really foretold where they're going when i was

00:06:22.100 actually in justice committee when mark miller who was then uh chair by the way he's now been promoted

00:06:28.020 and said uh almost in his exact words uh that the the parts of the quran parts of the torah and part of

00:06:35.540 the the bible uh should be banned and that if in fact a rabbi or an imam or a priest were to say

00:06:42.500 certain passages from one of the holy books uh they should be arrested it it was absolutely like

00:06:49.300 uh it is the most like blood chilling actually called for jail yeah yeah actually committee wow yeah

00:06:55.780 yeah and uh that was furthered now the uh now the liberals have worked with the bloc québécois

00:07:01.780 um to uh to put an amendment to remove the protection for religious speech it's incredible

00:07:07.460 even though it's enshrined in our constitution they're going to pass law that is in my view

00:07:11.940 at least completely unconstitutional that seeks to ban parts of the quran the bible and the torah

00:07:18.180 it just is i never thought that we would come to this if i said five years ago to my constituents

00:07:23.860 we can't vote for these liberals we can't get we can't give them a mandate because they're going to

00:07:27.700 ban the bible people look at me like i was insane right like i have a tinfoil hat on uh and now

00:07:34.420 they're actually doing it and i'm so proud of the work of our colleagues uh being led by larry brock

00:07:39.380 and andrew lawton amongst others who are fighting this committee and they'll and i'll be right there

00:07:44.020 with them fighting it every inch of the way because i refuse to live in a country where the holy books are

00:07:49.860 banned it's just this bubbling right you have the censorship on the internet and they're you know

00:07:55.780 regulating what we can watch and see another step yet another step and the liberals come out with

00:08:01.620 another lie saying we need c9 to fight hate crime right right but we already have these laws on the

00:08:10.100 book to protect canadians from that 100 kelly and so right now it's a law stands today if you were

00:08:16.420 to use any of the holy books as an as an excuse to call for the incitement of uh violence or to

00:08:22.740 worship call for genocide that would be an offense and you would go to jail right all of this is

00:08:27.780 completely unnecessary and it's just targeted really to to hurt religious communities and and for

00:08:33.780 censorship uh like i said it just it's an unbelievable step that we've that the liberal

00:08:38.900 government's attempting to attempt to take and like i said so proud of our colleagues for fighting

00:08:42.900 it every inch of the way yeah we'll keep doing that and good work on the justice committee because

00:08:46.900 they are they are not letting this go and good for them uh but of course they're the the the bad which

00:08:53.060 just eat this out is the cost of living the the millions of canadians going to the food bank it is

00:08:59.060 staggering yeah 2.1 million every month that's red edmonton alone the usage has doubled over the

00:09:05.860 last couple years cost of food increasing i think uh new report come out that it's going to be an added

00:09:12.180 900 per family on top of last year on top of the year before just in 2026 in 2.1 million one out of

00:09:20.660 every 10 and i think in ontario are attending food bank and there's no answer from the government except

00:09:26.660 for more regulation higher taxes and increased carbon tax and industrial carbon tax with some fake

00:09:34.820 belief that these taxes don't flow down through to the consumers in the end yeah nanos just came out with

00:09:41.460 the poll i believe it was uh 43 anyway it's the number one concern of canadians is food is being

00:09:46.980 able to feed themselves you never thought that that would happen in this country and as you were saying

00:09:50.660 kelly it becomes like a socialist doom loop uh where you you end up raising taxes people need more support

00:09:57.060 and so they ask for more support which means more taxes uh until you impoverish more and more and

00:10:01.620 that's the part we're seeing now like this is like people going to food banks um there's always been

00:10:07.060 and likely unfortunately always will be a spectrum of society that will need our support and we should

00:10:12.340 be there to help them uh but now it's creeping its way from the lower class to the middle class that

00:10:18.180 are going to food banks because not even not even having a good job is necessarily uh will necessarily

00:10:23.300 guarantee that you'll be able to provide for yourself i think melissa lanceman used a number 1.00

00:10:27.380 in the gta that two hundred thousand dollars a year and people are going to uh going to have to use

00:10:32.260 through things it's incredible how expensive things have gotten in our country you wouldn't guess it

00:10:36.580 listening to the liberals in question period we've never had it so good apparently from what we've

00:10:40.660 been told and of course liberal fall back is it's climate change yes and yet climate change doesn't

00:10:46.580 seem to affect the u.s because they have a much lower food inflation than we do ours is skyrocketing

00:10:53.860 theirs is not apparently climate change doesn't affect the u.s like it does canada no it's it's

00:11:00.260 remarkable there's a lot of bad from this liberal government to go over for this year a lot to

00:11:04.740 choose from but i think just talking to everyday canadians cost of living cost of living cost of

00:11:11.140 living and food especially oh it's really hurting all specters of the um of our uh population and

00:11:20.340 it's funny liberals claim to be wanting to help the middle class the most but they're actually the ones 0.95

00:11:25.060 hurting the middle class the most with these measures yeah remember the trudeau

00:11:30.020 slogan by the way they use more slogans than we do they did uh the middle class and those aspiring

00:11:35.140 yeah right and so uh they have pushed more people off that rung of trying to climb up uh the economic

00:11:41.620 spectrum than certainly in my lifetime and maybe in canadian history of uh just pushing people off

00:11:46.660 because and at the end of it i know of course i'm right beside an alberta mp so i don't have to talk

00:11:50.740 to him about it but uh the cost of energy is critical to driving down the cost of everything

00:11:55.540 including food uh and when we put in uh when we put in policies like the industrial carbon tax

00:12:00.740 we increase the cost of everything these are self-inflicted wounds these are probably that's

00:12:04.740 part probably at least part of not all the reason why canadian inflation of food inflation is much

00:12:10.180 higher than our neighbors to the south and at one point the middle class was the group that was kind

00:12:15.460 of less dependent on government right they had that independence you had more of your paycheck to spend

00:12:19.700 on the options that were best for you and and it's shrinking every single step so that's that's the bad

00:12:24.980 the ugly i made it an executive decision so the ugly was the fact that parliament didn't sit from

00:12:31.140 january till about may of this year and there was nothing going on clearly not a food inflation crisis

00:12:38.020 or inflation crisis or trade war or tariffs or anything like that so justin trudeau pro parliament

00:12:43.300 december didn't come back we had the liberal leadership then we had the election so there was a whole whack

00:12:48.420 of time where parliament was not sitting and the executive branch was running the government so to me

00:12:53.620 that's that's a pretty good runner up yeah i mean it is it is absolute proof that the liberal prime

00:12:59.060 ministers do not what's in the best interest of canada but what's in the best interest of the

00:13:03.460 liberal party and so um because it was in the best interest of the liberal party to have a leadership race

00:13:09.860 they decided to prorogue parliament uh irrespective of all the things that were going on in canada right

00:13:16.020 then uh it was in the best interest of justin trudeau so you know what like who cares uh to the rest of

00:13:21.780 canada uh we need to have this because we need to make sure that we win the election right and that

00:13:26.740 that was their sole focus of proroguing parliament while we could have been passing in laws that would

00:13:31.540 have reduced the cost of living uh that would have fought the the criminal um uh the increase in crime

00:13:39.620 across our country and said uh they had to have a leadership race so so they could do everything they

00:13:44.580 could to to win the election and i'm old enough to remember when stephen harper prorogued parliament the media

00:13:49.460 lost their ever-loving minds they were throwing themselves on the floor kicking and screaming

00:13:54.980 and just yawned you know to defend the liberals you know it's not like russia was invading a

00:13:59.940 neighboring country or interest rates were going through the roof or we had a crime spree or a

00:14:05.780 trade war with our closest friends so i will uh disagree with you on the ugly and because i do the

00:14:12.020 month or the weekly newsletter well i haven't got to the real ugly yet i haven't got to the real

00:14:16.100 right i'm gonna override your decision i will let you have uh give us your real ugly the real ugly 1.00

00:14:21.540 all right cut one and play cut one uh who cares i mean it's a detail it's a detail i spoke to him

00:14:29.060 i'll speak to him again when it matters uh the uh i look forward to speaking to the president soon but

00:14:35.300 i i don't have a burning issue to speak with the president about right now um when america wants to

00:14:42.980 come back and have the discussions on the trade side we will have those discussions i'm going to

00:14:47.540 answer a potential question here and then i'll pass back which is for example with respect to ukraine

00:14:54.500 and the 28 point plan i don't know how you're going to beat this i'm going to agree with you

00:15:02.420 i'm trying to figure out what is he trying to talk about there at the end but

00:15:05.140 this uh who cares is remarkable like i grew up in british columbia and i'm saddened to see it's

00:15:13.140 like 20 across the country 20 lumber mills have shut down the last couple years but it's accelerating

00:15:19.540 i think there's been four in the last couple months due to the software lumber issue um steel we've got

00:15:27.620 the issue with our car industry it's remarkable economy is coming to a halt our experts are

00:15:34.740 suffering carney the man with the plan man who promised yeah would have a deal by july and then

00:15:41.620 re-promise a deal by august is now saying ah lumber mill shut down your town's in trouble who cares who

00:15:48.900 cares and it's not a burning issue yes it's quite and he'll get around to talking to the president yes

00:15:56.020 yeah yeah i i couldn't believe it when i heard it philip what was your reaction yeah no it the thing

00:16:01.220 that gets me is the hypocrisy of it all right there's a number of different ways you could look

00:16:05.300 at this in shock and disappointment but he based a whole election campaign he went and talked to

00:16:11.620 canadians uh looked them in the eye and said the number one crisis facing us is uh donald trump and

00:16:17.780 these uh threatening tariffs and then what is it uh eight or nine months later he says who cares when

00:16:22.580 he's unable to get a deal like uh clearly he's failed uh and you know a little bit of uh of awareness of

00:16:30.020 that i think would go a long way but instead he just has this like brush off like brookfield attitude

00:16:35.220 like he's still the ceo brookfield and in many ways i guess he still is uh uh he's just like i don't

00:16:42.260 care you know what it's like uh this doesn't matter when when you like you said we've got to go with

00:16:47.460 steel uh i i grew up down in niagara uh and so and saw was very close to hamilton saw the importance of

00:16:54.900 the steel industry uh we've seen tariffs go up exponentially on steel of course we've got the

00:17:00.100 forest industry he promised that he was the man with the plan the great negotiator this brilliant

00:17:05.220 mind uh who who could uh quote unquote handle donald trump and he's proven uh anything but i should

00:17:11.460 have got the clip of him saying we're we have to make sacrifices people canadians should be prepared

00:17:16.100 to make sacrifice telling a group of young people yeah yeah who will never be able to afford a house

00:17:22.740 who are going to inherit this massive added debt yeah and interest rates are going to crush them but

00:17:30.020 yeah you have to make sure be prepared as long as i'll be okay as long as brookfield is not

00:17:34.580 sacrificing okay and and maybe that's what the who cares about it's yeah it's not westinghouse

00:17:41.140 which is owned by brookfield it's not brookfield itself it's not their development

00:17:45.620 that's suffering under the trump tariffs yeah it's regular workers in brampton who saw their

00:17:53.940 stellantis plant cut after 13 billion dollars of taxpayers money given to stellantis and then

00:18:01.060 just last week we had the head of stellantis in the oval office bragging about investing 15 billion of

00:18:08.100 canadians taxpayers in yeah ohio plan that was amazing so we're paying these multinationals

00:18:14.980 billions for them to take our jobs and ship themselves but i guess who cares because it's

00:18:20.100 not brookfield jobs it's not brookfield investment so and his headquarters in new york city so he's

00:18:24.420 that's true yeah they're doing okay yeah and you know and he was still able to uh at taxpayers

00:18:29.060 expense fly to i believe it was egypt uh at a cost of nearly eight hundred thousand dollars so

00:18:34.340 maybe if you can afford an eight hundred thousand dollar taxpayer funded flight uh it is who cares

00:18:39.460 for you that's right yeah you don't notice the suffering yeah it's it's just the people somewhere

00:18:43.780 out there all right that was the good the bad the ugly as you know the guests get the last word

00:18:47.780 who wants to kick it off we'll let the the fill-in to the fill-in yeah so i'll close off with with

00:18:53.700 c9 if i can like uh for all those folks and even those who are not religious uh this is an incredible

00:18:59.860 infringement on your on your liberty and on your religious freedom this is a very serious issue i

00:19:07.060 i never thought would be the point in canada where we have a government proposing to blan

00:19:11.140 to ban parts of the koran the bible and the torah but that is where we are right now so we really need

00:19:17.060 all of your help out there write your mps particularly if they're liberal mps and tell

00:19:21.860 them that you want to keep your religious liberty that you don't want your rabbi or your priest or your

00:19:27.140 mom going to jail 90 good job kelly well uh being the very end of the year i want to wish everyone

00:19:33.380 tomorrow it's a happy new year and a blessed and prosperous 2026 we're going to work hard for

00:19:39.860 canadians next year we just hope canadians all have a wonderful new year and a safe and prosperous uh

00:19:47.460 2026 and hopefully we can put the bad and the ugly behind us and next year this time we'll have the

00:19:53.780 good gooder and goodest we actually do sometimes have good weeks in ottawa that's we update our

00:20:01.300 weekly newsletter to the good gooder and goodest okay well that would be something i will change the

00:20:06.740 dictionary yeah we'll have to call webster's but yeah always enjoy the discussion thank you gentlemen

00:20:13.140 thank you well thank you mr smell happy new year happy new year happy new year thank you for your time

00:20:18.580 gentlemen and i hope you had a good christmas yeah santa was good santa was good well thank you very much we

00:20:23.140 have kelly mccauley member of parliament for edmonton west edmonton mall also philip lawrence

00:20:27.540 member of parliament for north harmerlin clark gentlemen always a pleasure good bad the ugly thank

00:20:32.020 you for tuning in don't forget to like comment subscribe and share this program it was a look

00:20:36.740 back at 2025 and again as kelly said 2026 hoping for positive things again new content for you every

00:20:43.060 single tuesday 1 30 p.m eastern time until then low taxes less government more freedom that's the blue

00:20:53.140 righteousness less government more can you really take care of of one man would like to listen to

00:20:57.860 not at least with your crisis i'll take a low taxes but you can have that on my phone

00:21:00.020 for you every day you should all have to go with three decades now

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