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On today's show, it is the good, the bad and the ugly as we take a look back at the year 2025. To do that, we once again bring on three of Canada's conservative parliamentarians to discuss the good and the bad.
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hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your
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host jamie schmale member of parliament for halliburton quarter lakes with new content for
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you every single tuesday 1 30 p.m eastern time don't forget to like comment subscribe and share
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on today's show it is the good the bad and the ugly a look back at the year 2025 to do that
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we once again bring on kelly mccauley the member of parliament for edmonton west edmonton mall
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and the fill-in for the fill-in we have phil florence a member of parliament for north
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humberland clark and we mean that with love because we had tom commitch was the regular
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yeah and then he of course is deputy assistant deputy speaker or deputy speaker sorry and then
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jazraz salon of course the finance critic yes we had him but you're a big upgrade you're a better
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big upgrade i think so yeah i think that's a step above but always great to have you gentlemen
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that's right hopefully we're going to bring up the debate the good the bad and the kelly
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and the kelly yes actually that's the uh that's the ugly of the show
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oh wow okay all right let's take let's take a look uh back at the year that was here 2025 a lot
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happens it was a strange year of course parliament was prorogued and i'm going to get to that that's
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a runner-up for the ugly uh we had the election and then a bunch of other things happened so let's
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take a look at the good why don't we start with the positive the good okay so we had a runner-up
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was the elimination of the carbon tax elimination of the dark conduct the same carbon tax that the
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kearney liberals said would uh save the world from flooding from hurricanes and then also if you
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didn't support meant the world would burn that's right a carbon tax yes and quite funny for years
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and years they stated the carbon tax wasn't inflationary yes repeatedly and it's quite funny
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now we see the budget kearney's budget five times mentions that the carbon tax uh elimination of
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helped reduce inflation the bank of canada puts it in writing yeah that it was inflationary the imf
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comments on it the parliamentary budget office um department of finance and the public accounts
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the actual books of the audited public accounts noted how it was actually inflationary it's it's funny
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it goes from saving the world and causing no added costs that's right yeah wow yeah wait a minute
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yeah people are but philip actually dragged it out in committee way yeah yeah it was a couple years
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ago when finance committee when uh governor of the bank tiff macklin admitted and put it in writing
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actually that uh somewhere around a half point to a point of inflation was fully dependent on the
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carbon tax right and so amazingly it's actually outperformed that by i think most statistical analysis
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that it was actually good for one or two percent and you say one or two percent that's not a huge
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deal but in reality that can be something like a third of inflation if we're at target or or a fifth
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of inflation simply by removing the carbon tax and you know we heard over and over again fellas
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that this was revenue that's right and no negative no big deal it was like santa claus they give you
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this great rebate and you didn't have to pay anything for it right it turns out virginia
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yeah shocking shocking industrial carbon tax you know then we had liberal ministers out showing
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videos themselves pumping gas oh yeah it's like a jedi mind trick eh forget the last 10 years it was
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like the next day too right like they went from like carbon tax carbon tax carbon tax it's so great
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it's amazing mark holland talking about you're gonna burn the world down by taking your family on a road
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trip to oh yeah we're great we got rid of that carbon yeah that was that was bad that's just
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horrible policy keep in mind mark holland uh when his minister of health also said canadians were
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gargling with gasoline over lack of dental care yeah that's a good point that's good okay that
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actually sounds like a pretty good good but uh all the good work that we've been doing as an
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opposition of parliament you gotta say that like there's gonna be a few graphics here just the
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amendments to different bills private members bills just just slowly chipping away at the liberal agenda
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here yeah no sorry go ahead yeah i was just gonna say it's and it's amazing actually the the wide
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breadth of some of these pmbs a lot of them of course on criminal justice we have seen a incredible
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increase in crime whether it be from sexual assaults on to assaults on to uh more petty crimes but it is
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expanded exponentially and a lot of those were deemed to help victims which is an incredible great work
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um to other issues like on finance otherwise my colleague annum chambers has put forward a couple of
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great pmbs on finance and money laundering that are there to improve the canadian economy so yeah
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you know 21 private member bills already tabled uh seven opposition motions uh work done to eliminate the
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um capital gains tax changes obviously the carbon tax yeah it's it's the liberal narrative that we don't put
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anything forward we just complain but it shows that besides the vast amount of policies that of ours that
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ours that carney adopted we also have fair amount of substantive um legislation brought forward by our mps
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important ones like on um natural health foods yeah on criminal justice issues taxation issues a whole
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breadth of things to help canadians and i don't even think that list includes amendments within legislation
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done a committee i believe and so oh this is purely private members bills yeah so there's a lot of work happening a lot of moving
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parts here let's go to the bad here we have a runner up it's c9 so for this is fairly new we haven't
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mentioned this on the show before because it is a developing topic but c9 philip can you tell us what c9 is yeah so
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so c9 uh was meant to be a bill or it was sorry it was claimed to be a bill i think it's a better way of putting it by the
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um to protect canadians against hate which is a laudable goal uh but they did anything but that
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in the actual legislation and it was really um it was really foretold where they're going when i was
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actually in justice committee when mark miller who was then uh chair by the way he's now been promoted
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and said uh almost in his exact words uh that the the parts of the quran parts of the torah and part of
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the the bible uh should be banned and that if in fact a rabbi or an imam or a priest were to say
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certain passages from one of the holy books uh they should be arrested it it was absolutely like
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uh it is the most like blood chilling actually called for jail yeah yeah actually committee wow yeah
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yeah and uh that was furthered now the uh now the liberals have worked with the bloc québécois
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um to uh to put an amendment to remove the protection for religious speech it's incredible
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even though it's enshrined in our constitution they're going to pass law that is in my view
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at least completely unconstitutional that seeks to ban parts of the quran the bible and the torah
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it just is i never thought that we would come to this if i said five years ago to my constituents
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we can't vote for these liberals we can't get we can't give them a mandate because they're going to
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ban the bible people look at me like i was insane right like i have a tinfoil hat on uh and now
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they're actually doing it and i'm so proud of the work of our colleagues uh being led by larry brock
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and andrew lawton amongst others who are fighting this committee and they'll and i'll be right there
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with them fighting it every inch of the way because i refuse to live in a country where the holy books are
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banned it's just this bubbling right you have the censorship on the internet and they're you know
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regulating what we can watch and see another step yet another step and the liberals come out with
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another lie saying we need c9 to fight hate crime right right but we already have these laws on the
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book to protect canadians from that 100 kelly and so right now it's a law stands today if you were
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to use any of the holy books as an as an excuse to call for the incitement of uh violence or to
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worship call for genocide that would be an offense and you would go to jail right all of this is
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completely unnecessary and it's just targeted really to to hurt religious communities and and for
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censorship uh like i said it just it's an unbelievable step that we've that the liberal
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government's attempting to attempt to take and like i said so proud of our colleagues for fighting
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it every inch of the way yeah we'll keep doing that and good work on the justice committee because
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they are they are not letting this go and good for them uh but of course they're the the the bad which
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just eat this out is the cost of living the the millions of canadians going to the food bank it is
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staggering yeah 2.1 million every month that's red edmonton alone the usage has doubled over the
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last couple years cost of food increasing i think uh new report come out that it's going to be an added
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900 per family on top of last year on top of the year before just in 2026 in 2.1 million one out of
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every 10 and i think in ontario are attending food bank and there's no answer from the government except
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for more regulation higher taxes and increased carbon tax and industrial carbon tax with some fake
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belief that these taxes don't flow down through to the consumers in the end yeah nanos just came out with
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the poll i believe it was uh 43 anyway it's the number one concern of canadians is food is being
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able to feed themselves you never thought that that would happen in this country and as you were saying
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kelly it becomes like a socialist doom loop uh where you you end up raising taxes people need more support
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and so they ask for more support which means more taxes uh until you impoverish more and more and
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that's the part we're seeing now like this is like people going to food banks um there's always been
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and likely unfortunately always will be a spectrum of society that will need our support and we should
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be there to help them uh but now it's creeping its way from the lower class to the middle class that
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are going to food banks because not even not even having a good job is necessarily uh will necessarily
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guarantee that you'll be able to provide for yourself i think melissa lanceman used a number
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in the gta that two hundred thousand dollars a year and people are going to uh going to have to use
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through things it's incredible how expensive things have gotten in our country you wouldn't guess it
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listening to the liberals in question period we've never had it so good apparently from what we've
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been told and of course liberal fall back is it's climate change yes and yet climate change doesn't
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seem to affect the u.s because they have a much lower food inflation than we do ours is skyrocketing
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theirs is not apparently climate change doesn't affect the u.s like it does canada no it's it's
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remarkable there's a lot of bad from this liberal government to go over for this year a lot to
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choose from but i think just talking to everyday canadians cost of living cost of living cost of
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living and food especially oh it's really hurting all specters of the um of our uh population and
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it's funny liberals claim to be wanting to help the middle class the most but they're actually the ones
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hurting the middle class the most with these measures yeah remember the trudeau
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slogan by the way they use more slogans than we do they did uh the middle class and those aspiring
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yeah right and so uh they have pushed more people off that rung of trying to climb up uh the economic
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spectrum than certainly in my lifetime and maybe in canadian history of uh just pushing people off
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because and at the end of it i know of course i'm right beside an alberta mp so i don't have to talk
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to him about it but uh the cost of energy is critical to driving down the cost of everything
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including food uh and when we put in uh when we put in policies like the industrial carbon tax
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we increase the cost of everything these are self-inflicted wounds these are probably that's
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part probably at least part of not all the reason why canadian inflation of food inflation is much
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higher than our neighbors to the south and at one point the middle class was the group that was kind
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of less dependent on government right they had that independence you had more of your paycheck to spend
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on the options that were best for you and and it's shrinking every single step so that's that's the bad
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the ugly i made it an executive decision so the ugly was the fact that parliament didn't sit from
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january till about may of this year and there was nothing going on clearly not a food inflation crisis
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or inflation crisis or trade war or tariffs or anything like that so justin trudeau pro parliament
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december didn't come back we had the liberal leadership then we had the election so there was a whole whack
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of time where parliament was not sitting and the executive branch was running the government so to me
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that's that's a pretty good runner up yeah i mean it is it is absolute proof that the liberal prime
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ministers do not what's in the best interest of canada but what's in the best interest of the
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liberal party and so um because it was in the best interest of the liberal party to have a leadership race
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they decided to prorogue parliament uh irrespective of all the things that were going on in canada right
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then uh it was in the best interest of justin trudeau so you know what like who cares uh to the rest of
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canada uh we need to have this because we need to make sure that we win the election right and that
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that was their sole focus of proroguing parliament while we could have been passing in laws that would
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have reduced the cost of living uh that would have fought the the criminal um uh the increase in crime
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across our country and said uh they had to have a leadership race so so they could do everything they
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could to to win the election and i'm old enough to remember when stephen harper prorogued parliament the media
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lost their ever-loving minds they were throwing themselves on the floor kicking and screaming
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and just yawned you know to defend the liberals you know it's not like russia was invading a
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neighboring country or interest rates were going through the roof or we had a crime spree or a
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trade war with our closest friends so i will uh disagree with you on the ugly and because i do the
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month or the weekly newsletter well i haven't got to the real ugly yet i haven't got to the real
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right i'm gonna override your decision i will let you have uh give us your real ugly the real ugly
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all right cut one and play cut one uh who cares i mean it's a detail it's a detail i spoke to him
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i'll speak to him again when it matters uh the uh i look forward to speaking to the president soon but
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i i don't have a burning issue to speak with the president about right now um when america wants to
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come back and have the discussions on the trade side we will have those discussions i'm going to
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answer a potential question here and then i'll pass back which is for example with respect to ukraine
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and the 28 point plan i don't know how you're going to beat this i'm going to agree with you
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i'm trying to figure out what is he trying to talk about there at the end but
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this uh who cares is remarkable like i grew up in british columbia and i'm saddened to see it's
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like 20 across the country 20 lumber mills have shut down the last couple years but it's accelerating
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i think there's been four in the last couple months due to the software lumber issue um steel we've got
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the issue with our car industry it's remarkable economy is coming to a halt our experts are
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suffering carney the man with the plan man who promised yeah would have a deal by july and then
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re-promise a deal by august is now saying ah lumber mill shut down your town's in trouble who cares who
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cares and it's not a burning issue yes it's quite and he'll get around to talking to the president yes
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yeah yeah i i couldn't believe it when i heard it philip what was your reaction yeah no it the thing
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that gets me is the hypocrisy of it all right there's a number of different ways you could look
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at this in shock and disappointment but he based a whole election campaign he went and talked to
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canadians uh looked them in the eye and said the number one crisis facing us is uh donald trump and
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these uh threatening tariffs and then what is it uh eight or nine months later he says who cares when
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he's unable to get a deal like uh clearly he's failed uh and you know a little bit of uh of awareness of
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that i think would go a long way but instead he just has this like brush off like brookfield attitude
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like he's still the ceo brookfield and in many ways i guess he still is uh uh he's just like i don't
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care you know what it's like uh this doesn't matter when when you like you said we've got to go with
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steel uh i i grew up down in niagara uh and so and saw was very close to hamilton saw the importance of
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the steel industry uh we've seen tariffs go up exponentially on steel of course we've got the
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forest industry he promised that he was the man with the plan the great negotiator this brilliant
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mind uh who who could uh quote unquote handle donald trump and he's proven uh anything but i should
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have got the clip of him saying we're we have to make sacrifices people canadians should be prepared
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to make sacrifice telling a group of young people yeah yeah who will never be able to afford a house
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who are going to inherit this massive added debt yeah and interest rates are going to crush them but
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yeah you have to make sure be prepared as long as i'll be okay as long as brookfield is not
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sacrificing okay and and maybe that's what the who cares about it's yeah it's not westinghouse
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which is owned by brookfield it's not brookfield itself it's not their development
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that's suffering under the trump tariffs yeah it's regular workers in brampton who saw their
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stellantis plant cut after 13 billion dollars of taxpayers money given to stellantis and then
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just last week we had the head of stellantis in the oval office bragging about investing 15 billion of
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canadians taxpayers in yeah ohio plan that was amazing so we're paying these multinationals
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billions for them to take our jobs and ship themselves but i guess who cares because it's
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not brookfield jobs it's not brookfield investment so and his headquarters in new york city so he's
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that's true yeah they're doing okay yeah and you know and he was still able to uh at taxpayers
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expense fly to i believe it was egypt uh at a cost of nearly eight hundred thousand dollars so
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maybe if you can afford an eight hundred thousand dollar taxpayer funded flight uh it is who cares
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for you that's right yeah you don't notice the suffering yeah it's it's just the people somewhere
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out there all right that was the good the bad the ugly as you know the guests get the last word
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who wants to kick it off we'll let the the fill-in to the fill-in yeah so i'll close off with with
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c9 if i can like uh for all those folks and even those who are not religious uh this is an incredible
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infringement on your on your liberty and on your religious freedom this is a very serious issue i
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i never thought would be the point in canada where we have a government proposing to blan
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to ban parts of the koran the bible and the torah but that is where we are right now so we really need
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all of your help out there write your mps particularly if they're liberal mps and tell
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them that you want to keep your religious liberty that you don't want your rabbi or your priest or your
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mom going to jail 90 good job kelly well uh being the very end of the year i want to wish everyone
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tomorrow it's a happy new year and a blessed and prosperous 2026 we're going to work hard for
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canadians next year we just hope canadians all have a wonderful new year and a safe and prosperous uh
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2026 and hopefully we can put the bad and the ugly behind us and next year this time we'll have the
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good gooder and goodest we actually do sometimes have good weeks in ottawa that's we update our
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weekly newsletter to the good gooder and goodest okay well that would be something i will change the
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dictionary yeah we'll have to call webster's but yeah always enjoy the discussion thank you gentlemen
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thank you well thank you mr smell happy new year happy new year happy new year thank you for your time
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gentlemen and i hope you had a good christmas yeah santa was good santa was good well thank you very much we
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have kelly mccauley member of parliament for edmonton west edmonton mall also philip lawrence
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member of parliament for north harmerlin clark gentlemen always a pleasure good bad the ugly thank
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you for tuning in don't forget to like comment subscribe and share this program it was a look
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back at 2025 and again as kelly said 2026 hoping for positive things again new content for you every
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single tuesday 1 30 p.m eastern time until then low taxes less government more freedom that's the blue
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righteousness less government more can you really take care of of one man would like to listen to
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not at least with your crisis i'll take a low taxes but you can have that on my phone
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for you every day you should all have to go with three decades now