The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - February 26, 2018


Justin Trudeau compares ISIS fighters to immigrants


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Justin Trudeau's comparison of returning ISIS fighters to other communities in our society has shocked many people and shocked others. Is this Prime Minister actually saying that taxpayers should be on the hook when he breaks the law? What is it going to take for the Prime Minister to have any respect for any laws in this country that may curb his out of control behaviour?

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00:00:00.000 You are listening to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:00:09.040 Is the Prime Minister actually saying that taxpayers should be on the hook when he breaks the law?
00:00:20.420 What is it going to take for the Prime Minister to have any respect for any laws in this country that may curb his out-of-control behaviour?
00:00:30.000 All these deficits leading to nothing but burying Canadians in taxes.
00:00:34.500 And now, here's your host, Tony Clement.
00:00:45.380 Welcome to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Clement, Member of Parliament.
00:00:50.240 We've got a great show for you today, and I've got two amazing guests with me.
00:00:54.460 First, I've got Colin Carey, the MP for Oshawa, and Mr. Bob Soroya, the MP for Markham-Unionville.
00:01:00.180 Gentlemen, welcome to the show.
00:01:01.400 Glad to be here, Tony.
00:01:02.480 We're going to be talking a little bit about, as our first topic, the series of town halls that Mr. Trudeau, as Prime Minister, did throughout the country.
00:01:11.700 The one in particular that hasn't had as much, maybe, you know, insight into it, or people have not commented as much on the surface, but underneath the surface, has really turned a lot of heads.
00:01:26.260 On February 2nd, during a town hall at McEwen University in Edmonton, the Prime Minister was talking, I guess, was asked a question about returning ISIS fighters and made a very strange comparison between returning ISIS fighters and other groups in our society.
00:01:46.260 So I'm going to give it to Colin first, and then, Bob, maybe you can comment a little bit.
00:01:49.740 Tell us a little bit about what happened and what the reaction has been.
00:01:54.060 Well, I think the reaction is shock when people heard the Prime Minister try to equate, you know, Italian refugees, Portuguese, Ismailis coming to Canada with returning ISIS supporters and terrorists.
00:02:09.700 These individuals from ISIS, they're not fleeing persecution. 0.81
00:02:13.880 They are the persecutors.
00:02:15.220 So to think that the Prime Minister is out there promoting rehabilitation of these individuals, we know as a conservative government, we gave them the tools in order to prosecute these individuals, and instead he wants to put Canadian taxpayers' dollars into reintegration with these podcasts and poetry.
00:02:35.460 It's outrageous.
00:02:36.560 Because that was the context of the question.
00:02:38.600 It was, hey, you know, we've got these returning ISIS fighters.
00:02:41.960 Most countries are arresting them when they return, and yet Canada has this kind of pie-in-the-sky, hippy-dippy approach where they're going to say, oh, if you see a few podcasts or read some poetry, maybe that'll be part of your treatment, as it were.
00:02:58.260 Oh, yeah, and it's almost as if the Prime Minister thinks that ISIS is a unique culture.
00:03:02.840 Now, unless you support the culture of genocide, these people are maniacal perpetrators of the most offensive acts. 0.99
00:03:13.260 They've raped and murdered women in front of their children. 1.00
00:03:17.420 They've thrown homosexuals off buildings. 1.00
00:03:20.960 Ismailis, they've butchered them, or any pious Muslim who wants to practice their religion, anything different than ISIS. 1.00
00:03:28.420 And these are the people that the Prime Minister is equating with refugees and immigrants who came to this country to build it, and it's just shocking. 0.88
00:03:38.260 It would be laughable if it wasn't so outrageous.
00:03:40.860 Great community, Portuguese.
00:03:41.580 He specifically mentioned Greek, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Italian communities.
00:03:46.480 Those were the ones he was equating with returning ISIS fighters.
00:03:50.460 Absolutely.
00:03:51.200 Just watch the video.
00:03:52.040 Bob Soraya, you've probably heard some feedback on this.
00:03:56.000 So what are people saying about this comparison of the Prime Minister?
00:03:59.120 First of all, thank you, Tony.
00:04:00.460 It was a simple question from a father when he talked about the safety of his kids, especially for his girls, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years down the road.
00:04:13.000 It was a simple question from the man's heart, from the person's heart.
00:04:17.420 And Mr. Trudeau didn't have the answer, as always, didn't have the talking points.
00:04:25.980 He went to the left when he started talking.
00:04:28.880 Yeah, this was off the top of his head.
00:04:30.720 This is the thing.
00:04:31.340 This is when you hear the real Justin Trudeau.
00:04:33.220 Tony, we all know, when he doesn't have the talking point, this is what he does.
00:04:37.020 This is what he's best with.
00:04:38.720 So he started talking with the Greeks, Italians, Portuguese.
00:04:41.740 When they came back from the Second World War, they were mistreated.
00:04:45.520 This is not the question.
00:04:48.200 The question was simply when those people are coming back from Syria, Iraq, or wherever they're coming from, those are the bad people. 1.00
00:04:57.020 It's a genuine concern from the father.
00:05:00.700 It's a lot of people in my writing ask on a daily basis, why are we paying them?
00:05:06.920 How do we integrate?
00:05:10.020 I think it's the word he's using.
00:05:12.000 How do we teach them?
00:05:13.380 They're the murderers. 1.00
00:05:14.240 They're the rapists. 1.00
00:05:16.240 Azizi, Assyrians, all the minorities in the Middle East, they're mistreated. 1.00
00:05:22.940 They're murdered.
00:05:23.320 He tried to wipe them all out, didn't he?
00:05:24.600 He went to wipe them all out.
00:05:26.840 So the question was simple.
00:05:28.600 Mr. Trudeau didn't have the answer, so he went to this side.
00:05:32.420 What a answer.
00:05:35.260 What a answer.
00:05:35.940 I think he also talked about he was a bouncer in the bar.
00:05:44.120 What the heck bouncer have to do in this equation?
00:05:47.220 Yeah, I know he always likes to talk about aspects of his past, even if it's completely irrelevant.
00:05:52.400 You probably heard these numbers as well, but the numbers are quite striking that the federal government is aware of approximately 180 individuals with a nexus to Canada who were abroad and who were suspected of engaging in terrorism-related activities.
00:06:15.640 And a further 60 extremist travelers who have returned to Canada.
00:06:19.860 So this is not a theoretical question.
00:06:22.280 This is a question that Canadians – you mentioned, Bob Soroya, people in your riding.
00:06:27.100 Canadians are wondering, how are we going to be protected?
00:06:29.880 What's the stance of the government?
00:06:31.460 Bob?
00:06:31.620 Torrey, a few years back, I bumped into somebody from the Iranian background.
00:06:41.060 He mentioned something to that that I could never think like this.
00:06:45.180 He said there was 17 people in 9-1-1.
00:06:49.120 They brought America to their knees, if we can use that word, or they were hurt.
00:06:56.960 9-11, right.
00:06:58.060 About 17 people.
00:06:59.700 If you have 120 of those people, God, people have to be concerned, people have to be scared.
00:07:07.640 It's not scare-mongering.
00:07:10.340 This is the reality.
00:07:11.780 If it's 100 people, 150 people, 180 people, what will they do?
00:07:16.460 Will they get the signal from wherever they're getting the signal, either from Afghanistan or wherever they get the signal?
00:07:24.980 It is a scary moment in my mind, and it's scary stuff, what I hear from the road, from my constituency, and many, many others.
00:07:34.340 Colin, any further response that you've heard from people?
00:07:37.760 Any reaction that you've heard?
00:07:39.120 Oh, absolutely, and I agree 100% with Bob.
00:07:41.480 I think people realize these are Canadians that left our country, that agreed to take up arms against Canadians and our allies, that participated in these atrocities.
00:07:52.960 And now, for some reason, Justin Trudeau thinks a Canadian's a Canadian, a Canadian.
00:07:58.420 They're going to let these people back here. 1.00
00:08:00.480 To think that you can reintegrate these people is incredibly naive.
00:08:05.040 It's putting our communities at risk.
00:08:07.000 And I've got to tell you, Tony, this past weekend, I was at the Italian Club in Oshawa.
00:08:11.040 And I won't repeat some of the things that were said, but they're aware of these comparisons.
00:08:15.980 I had an elderly guy come up to me and said, I came here legally.
00:08:19.460 I came here because I wanted to be a better country and contribute to Canada.
00:08:23.620 And he has.
00:08:24.480 They've been the builders of this country.
00:08:26.520 Literally the builders.
00:08:27.760 Literally.
00:08:28.320 Construction.
00:08:28.760 And in my community, more than many others.
00:08:30.980 And to equate the contributions of these communities, these cultures that came to Canada, and kind of compare the culture of ISIS to be equivalent in any way whatsoever is so offensive.
00:08:45.180 He should be apologizing, and he should be taking Canadian resources to help support the victims of ISIS, like the Yazidis, and not be giving it to rehabilitate people that are unrehabilitatable. 0.86
00:08:58.200 These are people, I've got to tell you, they went overseas to fight against us.
00:09:02.860 And now that they've lost, they want to come back to be safe.
00:09:05.640 They want our health care.
00:09:06.580 They want our education.
00:09:07.860 And they want it all for free so they can be safe here to continue to build on their insane ideology.
00:09:14.680 Let me read.
00:09:15.720 I want to put on the record the actual quote from Justin Trudeau.
00:09:18.940 So first of all, the man in the audience said to Mr. Trudeau, and this is a quote,
00:09:23.900 I just want to know how your stance on ISIS is going to help Canadians in any way.
00:09:29.240 I need to know how you're going to protect future Canadians like my young daughter and, you know, 10, 15, 20 years from now when you're letting people in with an ideology that just does not conform to what we're doing here.
00:09:42.280 Mr. Trudeau replied, absolutely.
00:09:44.280 No, I think that gives me an opportunity to talk about, first of all, the fact that one of the reasons Canada is successful as a country is because we have been open to people fleeing persecution, fleeing war zones, looking for a better life for themselves and their kids.
00:10:01.640 That's been the story about how this country from the time the first European settlers came to be received by indigenous peoples.
00:10:07.780 And then he goes into the Vietnamese boat people, the Greek communities, the Portuguese, the Italian community, and so on. 0.91
00:10:14.220 So this is the point.
00:10:16.000 He conflated.
00:10:17.700 He confused ISIS where they – and the question was about how we are going to be safe from ISIS returnees to people fleeing persecution.
00:10:28.820 But, Tony, this is how he thinks every time he gets off script, just like Bob was saying.
00:10:34.400 This is the same guy that said he admires the basic dictatorship of China.
00:10:39.160 This is the same guy that said he admires Fidel Castro as a great leader, somebody who –
00:10:44.040 El Comandante is he.
00:10:45.160 Oh, my gosh.
00:10:45.980 Somebody who killed literally thousands and thousands of his own people.
00:10:50.540 This is the guy that says we have to rethink things like space and time.
00:10:55.000 This is how the individual thinks.
00:10:57.340 And for the leader of our country to give a glimpse into his mind, I think it's – all of us, very important that we pay attention to this, the way he thinks, at our own peril.
00:11:05.980 I'm going to give Bob Soraya the last word here.
00:11:09.200 Tony, I was born in India, and I lived most of my life here.
00:11:13.280 I understand these people, they have a mindset.
00:11:17.220 We are the nonbelievers.
00:11:18.620 It doesn't matter what do we do to make them get better.
00:11:23.080 What formula, Mr. Trudeau, will use to get them better?
00:11:27.340 What formula does he have in his sleeves so he can give them some tablet or whatever the thing he can give them?
00:11:34.340 They said they're cured.
00:11:35.780 It's an impossible task.
00:11:38.260 It hasn't worked throughout the world.
00:11:41.220 It would not work in this country.
00:11:43.400 And it is a scary moment what I hear from it, I think.
00:11:48.560 Well, gentlemen, thank both of you.
00:11:49.800 I want to thank Colin Carey, the MP for Oshawa, and Bob Soraya, the MP for Markham-Unionville.
00:11:54.920 I don't know what Justin Trudeau thinks about space and time, but I do know that our space and time is limited.
00:11:59.700 So thanks for coming on the program.
00:12:01.100 It's great to have you.
00:12:01.880 Thanks, Tony.
00:12:02.560 Thank you, Tony.
00:12:03.260 Thank you, Tony.
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