The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - Justin Trudeau’s Third Wave

00:00:00.000 hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your

00:00:10.700 host jamie schmale member of parliament for halliburton for the lakes brock we thank you

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00:00:36.180 conservative message that they don't get from the mainstream media this is how we are going to make

00:00:41.120 sure that erin o'toole is the next prime minister of canada of course as always if you can't watch it

00:00:47.020 now in this moment you can download it later on listen to it on platforms like cast box itunes

00:00:52.560 google play spotify you name it it is out there our topic today very informative very timely

00:00:58.400 based on what's going on in the world today we are entering justin trudeau's third wave of the

00:01:03.600 covid pandemic because of his failure to secure enough vaccine supply for canadians and we now

00:01:09.300 see that they are finally taking action on the border they've suspended as of last thursday

00:01:14.320 incoming flights from india and pakistan due to the rising caseloads and the variant concerns that

00:01:20.700 we're seeing last week alone india reached a high of 314 000 new cases in just one day and now that

00:01:28.840 we have the suspension for 30 days gives health officials here time to figure things out but as

00:01:34.260 we're seeing in the news the variants already here unfortunately and it is a deadly variant 39 cases in

00:01:41.180 british columbia a couple in quebec more in ontario we welcome shannon stubbs the member of parliament

00:01:46.900 for lakeland she's also the shadow minister for public safety and emergency preparedness hello

00:01:52.240 shannon welcome back to the show hey jamie thanks for having me well this is something we have called

00:01:57.820 for for well over a year now the border needs to be tightened up and we said so over a year ago what

00:02:05.860 are your thoughts well uh yeah you're exactly right and inconsistency and lack of action early on

00:02:14.260 on the border is partly why um canadians are continuing to face uh restrictions in their

00:02:22.400 daily lives in their businesses uh between their families and i you know think that that it's a real

00:02:30.720 indictment of the liberals that um a year ago you know it was last january jamie when we told the

00:02:37.380 liberals to lock down the borders to stop incoming cases of covet 19 they uh suggested that we were

00:02:46.680 doing that for reasons other than uh protecting the public health and safety of canadians delayed and

00:02:53.580 dithered and then ultimately did it of course but what has been happening since is utter chaos

00:03:00.440 uncertainty and a lack of clarity and consistency in terms of um in terms of what canadians face when

00:03:08.120 they go to the border the liberals have created such a mess it's really difficult for the average

00:03:12.720 canadian to figure out you know if they're considered an essential worker if they'll be allowed

00:03:17.060 across the border back and forth um and it's a gamble every time a canadian uh goes to goes to the

00:03:24.160 border uh maybe believing that they are an essential worker or that they're in an essential sector

00:03:29.560 um and uh their their jobs uh their work their businesses and their livelihoods are just sort of

00:03:37.320 at the whim of whatever of the decision of any individual border agent of course all of whom are

00:03:43.480 struggling uh to keep up with the constant changes and inconsistency from the liberals so now we're

00:03:50.620 seeing cases not just in canada but it's particularly hard because this is our focus we're seeing the

00:03:55.860 brazilian variant we're seeing the variant from india the one from the uk and others that just

00:04:02.280 seem to be showing that the covid virus is getting in many cases uh deadlier we're seeing younger people

00:04:09.580 getting it healthier people getting sick which is extremely concerning because these variants got in

00:04:15.920 because of liberal failures and you look at countries like new zealand and australia yes sure they're an

00:04:22.580 island but they tighten their borders almost immediately and and yes they did have lockdowns

00:04:27.620 and some were severe than what we've seen here but at the end of the day the the variants aren't

00:04:32.320 getting into those countries because they acted fast right and um i think that those are exactly

00:04:39.960 the essential questions that canadians should be asking right now how it could be that we're a year

00:04:45.480 um and the utter failure in securing vaccine supply to keep pace with um our allies and countries uh in

00:04:55.120 the developed world but also of course having tried to strike up a 44 million dollar deal with china

00:05:01.080 and then have them shockingly take the money and bail out uh not so shocking and um then also being

00:05:07.500 you know a country that where the prime minister tried to take vaccine supply from developing countries

00:05:13.160 um fast forward through all these months and it seems like the uh liberals are restricting and locking

00:05:21.140 down the things they shouldn't be while being slow to act on taking action against um you know

00:05:27.280 international flights and it's that's a confusion i've heard from um canadians and from constituents

00:05:33.160 frankly for the entire year they say you know these both municipalities and provinces are being

00:05:39.060 forced into making all kinds of difficult decisions governing the daily lives of their citizens

00:05:44.220 meanwhile you know international flights have been landing in canadian airports very freely until the

00:05:51.120 liberals finally acted last week i think you brought up something pretty important right there a lot of

00:05:55.900 these uh measures that have been taking place and being implemented especially the covet hotels and such

00:06:02.700 have been targeted on canadian citizens for the most part almost as a a deterrent to keep them

00:06:09.000 from traveling which which is fine but making people's lives miserable which are affecting those maybe

00:06:15.100 they've they've gone south for the winter maybe they stayed in florida that kind of thing but

00:06:19.840 there is no real consistency to these measures and you're right they are confusing at best

00:06:26.260 yeah and it's having a major impact on people's lives you know people who have traveled for

00:06:32.560 compassionate grounds believing uh that they're well within the rules and that they should have no

00:06:38.880 problems then facing you know uh different decisions on you know on both sides of their trips and huge

00:06:46.440 personal costs and having to quarantine and take time from work um people who even have had

00:06:52.280 essential medical services outside of the country have come back to face um just a massive mess in

00:06:59.060 terms of what they have to do when they get back in and also what can't be understated is the economic

00:07:03.900 impact you know they're and this is i think why canadians are rightful to have so many questions

00:07:10.220 and to be skeptical about the decisions that are being made because we're in a situation where it

00:07:14.580 seems like the public health agency of canada and the health minister make recommendations many of those

00:07:22.860 rules are carried out by transport but then individual border agents are on the front lines trying to

00:07:28.680 execute whatever they perceive the directions to be and jamie can you imagine this i um i months ago

00:07:34.920 uh asked a series of questions to the public safety minister on the evidence for the decisions that

00:07:40.260 they're making the data they've used the science behind their restrictions they can't uh they haven't

00:07:45.380 to date provided any of that with regard to either their travel restrictions or their quarantine

00:07:49.620 uh hotel program which as you know we've uh called to be shut down and um yet they you know

00:07:57.980 people are facing this challenge on a daily basis impacting their jobs impacting their work

00:08:04.760 the public safety minister points his fingers at the health minister uh transport is somewhere in

00:08:10.000 the middle making up the rules and um two months ago i asked the public safety minister what uh he was

00:08:17.620 doing in terms of providing training um real-time training and real-time support to border agents who are

00:08:24.440 stuck in the middle of all of this doing their best uh to deal with the ever-changing and inconsistent

00:08:29.720 rules and guess what even in a press release in his own department i think on march 25th it acknowledged

00:08:36.360 they're still developing training for border agents i mean we're in like a year in right with

00:08:43.180 catastrophic impacts on canadians daily lives and so no wonder it is so confusing and so disruptive

00:08:51.980 for the average canadian to figure out um you know what they're supposed to be doing but how long was

00:08:57.400 it shannon i don't expect a perfect number here how long was it that we as the opposition and the

00:09:03.300 media itself i'll give them credit as well pointed out that international flights were coming into our

00:09:08.080 major airports and basically there were there was no covid screening there was no information basically

00:09:14.160 you got a pamphlet on what covid is and what you should do and then people were sent on their way

00:09:19.080 which was shocking when you look at the action other countries were taking to stop at that point

00:09:26.080 the original covid virus from getting in and spreading yeah completely that i mean it's been

00:09:31.580 it has been over a year that's not an exaggeration our our first calls for the liberals to take action

00:09:38.340 on the border was at the end of january in 2020 and simultaneously uh you know our colleague

00:09:43.880 michelle rumplegarner and other uh conservative conservatives and we as a conservative party

00:09:48.880 we're consistently saying implement pre and post arrival rapid testing um be clear and certain

00:09:56.460 about the rules and about the benchmarks and about your evidence and um you know there were very it was

00:10:02.520 for example an extremely successful pilot project in in calgary that could have been implemented uh right

00:10:09.980 across the country and the liberals just dragged their heels and failed to act and so here canadians

00:10:16.400 are still facing this ongoing and uncertainty and lack of clarity and all this craziness so we have

00:10:22.620 failures on the border failures with vaccine procurement we have issues with some of the relief programs that

00:10:29.740 were brought in of course we know that we scare charity scandal but we had problems with the rent control

00:10:34.800 or the rent rent subsidy program which only 10 percent of businesses across canada subscribe to

00:10:39.980 the wage subsidy originally was only 10 percent covering employers and employees wages and there

00:10:47.000 were a whole bunch of other things that we had to deal with as is the opposition trying to pressure the

00:10:52.060 government but yet they kept failing one thing after the other and you remember when parliament was

00:10:56.820 suspended right at the beginning the first thing they did when they were trying to come back

00:10:59.860 is take away powers of parliament and allow the executive branch to to run everything almost like

00:11:05.600 a dictatorship and and and barely a peep from the liberal backbenchers on this oh yes well that isn't

00:11:13.900 that the case they're just silent and go along to get along but jamie i you know what i what really

00:11:19.840 strikes me is that the liberals um despite doing exactly what you're talking about trying to make decisions by

00:11:25.920 fiat um and basically be completely unrestrained by the scrutiny and the diligence of members of

00:11:34.200 parliament um you know finally they've just put forward a budget after two years the first time

00:11:40.400 i think that that's ever happened and i think what was notably missing from that budget uh in amidst all

00:11:47.000 the pre-election spending uh campaigns was a plan for economic recovery and reopening of the canadian

00:11:54.220 economy and um i think that is uh very concerning in the context of what is going on at the border

00:12:04.060 and in particular with our largest trading partner partner the united states you know i've heard and i

00:12:09.260 know that you have heard and and members of parliament especially in our border communities our border

00:12:14.260 ridings have just heard a series of nightmares of workers and businesses who um are are deemed essential

00:12:21.980 um who end up uh crossing the border and then uh being either denied or told they have to quarantine

00:12:28.780 for 14 days this has major impacts on you know manufacturing and um all kinds of sectors but i've

00:12:36.480 heard so many situations in ontario where um that this is the trouble around the policy versus the

00:12:43.920 enforcement where they um require uh workers and their business partners to travel between the united

00:12:53.400 states and canada in many cases in canada just to come into a factory to check a few things maybe they

00:12:59.940 would spend two or three hours but that's a requirement in order for them um you know in order for

00:13:06.500 the manufacturing process to beginning to be able to start for them to do their work there

00:13:10.680 and um but because the of the lack of clarity around the rules um often they are getting told that they

00:13:18.680 have to be to quarantine well the canadian businesses are saying like you know our american partners or

00:13:25.000 american contractors aren't going to come for what normally is a three-hour appointment in um our factory

00:13:31.880 and quarantine for 14 days meanwhile they have off the chart success in terms of protecting public health

00:13:38.200 uh very few cases of of of any spreading and um they got you know the liberals on one hand are trying

00:13:47.280 to say that they're protecting the canadian economy and essential workers but are presiding over this

00:13:52.960 disaster which is losing um canadian businesses uh contracts uh business partners and um frankly just

00:14:02.740 helping um the american businesses and american side of the sector to thrive i i will

00:14:08.200 contradict you a bit i don't want to go too too far down this hole because we only have a few

00:14:11.860 minutes left but i i when you say the liberals don't have a plan for economic recovery i i i would

00:14:18.040 also say i think there might be something in there for economic recovery but it's their reimagined

00:14:22.920 economic recovery and if you look at the dollar value if this is truly a health crisis why wasn't more

00:14:29.920 invested in actual health care in long-term care facilities in improving those conditions but yet

00:14:36.600 we see all this money this slush fund all this money for infrastructure outside the normal government

00:14:43.800 budgetary process and a whole bunch of other things including national daycare disguised as covid relief

00:14:50.880 funding they're just using it as an excuse to fire up the credit card even more yes i mean i would i would

00:14:57.800 completely agree with you that they um are very much a government with an agenda of ever expanding and

00:15:05.800 increasing government powers government authority government spending um they don't seem to value the

00:15:12.420 private sector or entrepreneurs they don't they seem to um be fully part of this theory that government

00:15:19.920 creates jobs and um they give no they like sustainable jobs in the economy of course we believe the

00:15:27.100 private sector does that um and of course also value our core frontline public servants but they um

00:15:35.420 they have they think nothing of 100 billion dollars in new spending that's very hard to decipher how it

00:15:42.340 will make a difference in canadians daily lives and then um you know to have uh the the debt that

00:15:50.300 they're headed towards um just total disregard for our moral responsibility to spend within our means

00:15:57.580 and put uh needs before wants and ensure that we we pass on you know a sustainable fiscal situation

00:16:06.620 for governments for future generations um i think it's extremely concerning yeah i couldn't agree with

00:16:12.240 more if if this is a budget truly to tackle the covid pandemic then health care should have been

00:16:18.820 front and center front and center and unfortunately it wasn't shannon we're we are running out of time

00:16:23.060 but i always give the guests the final word and you know this because you've been on the show a few

00:16:27.320 times uh i give the floor to you to to wrap things up for us okay well um i don't know how to wrap this

00:16:35.180 up except i would just say that uh i hope that uh canadians will keep pushing the liberals to give

00:16:41.860 clarity and certainty and a roadmap um for economic recovery for the country i hope they'll keep

00:16:48.620 pushing the liberals to explain exactly how it is that they are going to secure canada's jobs and secure

00:16:55.680 the future and um and then of course you know if there are any experiences that canadian workers or

00:17:03.800 businesses or families are having a sherwood um appreciate to hear from them and i know that

00:17:10.160 goes the same for all conservative mps and the official opposition because it's uh crucial for us

00:17:16.340 to know how um these out-of-touch liberal policies and procedures are impacting their lives and to be

00:17:22.740 able to advocate for them as always we thank shannon stubbs the member of parliament for lakeland also

00:17:27.860 the shadow minister for emergency preparedness and public safety she's always great on her feet and

00:17:34.980 always has lots to say and we appreciate it because it is very valuable and because it is valuable we

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - April 28, 2021

Justin Trudeau’s Third Wave

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