LIVE Q&A with MP Larry Brock
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In this week's episode of The Blueprint, Conservative MP Larry Brock is back to answer your questions. This week's question and answer comes from Tory MP for Brantford-Brantford-Brantford South, Larry Brock.
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Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprint. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your
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We have Larry Brock, a fan favourite, back here for your questions today. It is Question
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and Answer with Member of Parliament for Brantford Brandt. Larry Brock, thanks for joining us.
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Thank you, Jamie. Always a pleasure to attend. Always a pleasure indeed. And of course, if you
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Here we go. Question and Answer. I have my trusty iPad. Parliament's back in session this week.
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We have a lot to talk about. We want to hear from you as well. So, just to get going on
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this until the questions start pouring in. How about we talk about what the leader,
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Pierre Polyev, was speaking about to the media before caucus earlier this week? That despite
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what Justin Trudeau says, that it's worse elsewhere, that people have never had it so
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good, and by that he means liberal insiders, lobbyists, and lawyers connected to government.
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Pierre Polyev mentioned there is hurt in our communities. There is hurt in Canada right
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now by the voices Trudeau is not listening to and the places he is not going. Do you want to expand
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on that? Absolutely. We are so far removed from sunny ways, I can't even begin to describe it.
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What he's describing, as you summed it up so eloquently, is that it's sunny ways for his caucus,
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sunny ways for his supporters, lobbyists, etc. But not for the Canadians that I'm dealing with,
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that you're dealing with, Jamie and your riding, that we're hearing about. This country is hurting,
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and it's hurting from coast to coast to coast. It's bad enough that we've got families struggling to
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make ends meet, putting food on their table, worrying about their mortgage payments with the increases in
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the interest rate. It's making it exceedingly difficult. As we know, we've got unprecedented
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numbers going to the food bank. We've got students who ought to be living in a reasonably priced
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bachelor apartment or sharing space with other students, simply cannot find space because there
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are no rentals available. We're living in homeless shelters. This is almost unheard of. We've got crime
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that is just spiraling out of control. Since Trudeau took power in 2015, crime generally is up 32%. In that same
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time frame, violent gang crime, up over 90%. And to not hear any sort of response from the government as to what
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what they could be doing to address this. We heard from David Lamedi yesterday in response to a question
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about the obvious state of our cities that are becoming really just a war, a scene out of a war
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crime movie. Just the level of anger and hostility and violence on the streets is just, it's really
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unprecedented. And to hear our Attorney General simply asking for solutions from the government.
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Well, if we can't trust the government to do their job, then what's this government in it for in the
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first place? We have this government giving away hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer funds to
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McKinsey and Company, outsourcing work that should be done by the professional public service that we
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have here. The public service that has been increasing in terms of its numbers all through
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the pandemic and the public service who's now asking for upwards to 30% in wage increases.
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But what are they doing? They're not doing their job. They're not performing the basic services
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that Canadians can expect. So yeah, Canadians are hurting, they're questioning their leadership
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and they're asking for help. We have a plan. Pierre Polyev has always had a plan and it's an issue now
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that we have to address. Absolutely. Well, we have one question here. This is the first time we've done
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this, so we're making this work as best we can. We have one question here from Tammy. She writes in,
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it's a pretty long question, so I'll just try to sum it up here. The unvaccinated needs more voices. Why
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aren't we fighting harder for the unvaccinated? Why are we not fighting hard? I think we are fighting
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hard. We are the only party in my view that are asking our government to respect the wishes of every
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Canadian that the right to put in a medicine or any type of injectable is a personal right that each
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Canadian has. And whether or not they wish to exercise that right should not be government's
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business to interfere with. So to answer that lady's question, I would suggest to you that
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we as a Conservative Party have always stood for the individual freedoms that we have with respect
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to the autonomy of our body, and we will strongly advocate for that in the future. Okay. Now, as we
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should also point out, we were really the only party that was calling for an end to a lot of the federal
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mandates, which the Prime Minister did put an end to about a week after Pierre Polyev became leader, and
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that included the ArriveCam app, that was a complete and utter disaster, not only in functional,
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you know, the functionality part, but also in cost as well. And within a week, the science didn't
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change, the political science didn't change. The political science changed, right? And we are fighting
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for stuff like that, and military members not having to lose their jobs because of personal health
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choices. We had always advocated for that. We have. In fact, and you could easily say that the Canadian
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government was almost a year late to the party because countries around the world with far more
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dangerous levels of infection were lifting. Right. They believe that they, because they're in
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government, have all the answers and can fix everything. They forget the reason why they are in
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government. Yes. They're in government to serve Canadians. Canadians aren't there to serve them.
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And there seems to be a real disconnect in their brand of government and governance.
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Yeah. Something that we are just so diametrically opposed to as the official opposition.
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Well, let's move on to the firearms question here. We saw over the last week or so, the public safety
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minister, Marco Medicino, go up to the Yukon. It was a round table, two round tables with a wide
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variety of people. Yes. Hosted by the Yukon MP, which is a liberal. Yes. And what was clear,
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and at least in the reporting that came out, was that everyone, indigenous, non-indigenous,
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was against what the Liberals are trying to do to law-abiding firearms owners. I think it was
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abundantly clear. And he got an earful. You have been a amazing prosecutor on this file
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and ensuring that the issues are coming to light, but also Marco Medicino is illuminated in his massive
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failures. Where do you see this going now? We, we see more crime. The TTC has had people pushed on
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tracks, beat up, stabbed, killed in the Toronto Transit Commission. Where do you see this going? What's next?
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I don't see the government doing anything to address the pressing need for stability and safety in our
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larger cities. And it's not necessarily just the larger cities. It's rural crime. It's small town crime.
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None of their policies in the last eight years have contributed at all to increasing confidence
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in the institution of policing, in the institution of law and order. They've done the complete opposite.
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They have made things easier for criminals to ply their trade. And not necessarily just on a one-time
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basis, but on a repeat basis. They've introduced legislation, Bill 75. I've talked about this
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numerous times on your podcast, Jamie, has made it so abundantly easier for repeat criminals not to be
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kept, not to be held, not to be prevented from continuing their criminal trade, but to be immediately
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released on the street, sometimes within minutes. And as a prosecutor, I could recount numerous scores
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of real-life stories where these individuals are recommitting within a half an hour of release,
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laughing at the criminal justice system. And I know many, many people have written to you,
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written to me as well, saying that there is no justice in our criminal justice system. It's merely a
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legal system. It's a legal system that does not promote any balance between protecting our communities
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and the rights of criminals. So to answer your question in a long-about way, how do I see this?
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The government is receiving such a negative backlash across so many interested groups, including their
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backbenchers, that Liberal MP in particular, that I foresee that at some point they're going to have to
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eat that proverbial crow and admit that there was an overreach. They won't use those terms, of course,
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but they'll come up with another amendment or another study. They'll find a way to easily and gracefully
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back away. Precisely, without admitting that what they did was an extreme overreach. There'll be no apology
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from this government at all that they were attacking the wrong class of individuals. This isn't about
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those lawful, law-abiding individuals who have taken all the necessary regulatory courses, are storing
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their firearms appropriately, engaging in all kinds of checks and balances on a regular and daily basis.
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It's easy for the government to attack them. That's that low-lying fruit that we often talk about,
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and completely ignoring the big issue. The big elephant in the room is this influx of these illegal guns
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being smuggled across our porous borders, allowing the millions and pounds of opiates that are crossing
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into our border, causing people to react so negative. Particularly, this is the Toronto situation on the
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subway system. These random attacks, not necessarily from career criminals, but individuals who are so
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higher than a kite on these extremely strong opiates, they have no control over their activities
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and are creating a menace on the streets. We have mayors, John Tory in Toronto, crying out for change.
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So, I think the time has come, this is really a reckoning for the government to take the appropriate
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steps, but I don't think it's going to happen. Not this government. Not this government. And it's going to
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take more and more tragedies, unfortunately, until, you know, the government realizes, I guess,
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we'll have to create another study to see what can be done to address this particular extreme issue.
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So, Elizabeth wants to know, when will we be able to stop all of this? When,
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what's going on in Ottawa? Basically, when there's an election. The next general election.
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But when can, how can this get triggered? We, how can this get, we need a confidence vote. There's one
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before Christmas. Unfortunately, the NDP went along with the Liberals and that was,
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yeah, that was defeated. For, for anyone that's, that is confused as to what sort of mechanisms and
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what options we have available to us, as you mentioned, Jamie, the vote of non-confidence is,
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is always available to any member, any opposition party to trigger. But unfortunately, the supply and
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confidence agreement reached last March between the NDP and the Liberal Party theoretically gives them
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protection, allows them to govern in a pseudo majority, literally until September of 2025.
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So, that would be the worst case scenario that, to answer that lady's question, that's the worst case
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scenario before we're into another general election. But history has shown us that most minority
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governments generally do not last beyond two and a half to three years. We're, we'll be starting our
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third year of, of this particular mandate. So, whether or not the supply and confidence agreement
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holds up remains to be seen. It's certainly open to the Prime Minister whenever he wants
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to call an election. So, that's an option. It's also an option for the leader of the NDP, Jagmeet Singh,
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to withdraw his support, which doesn't necessarily mean that it becomes a non-confidence vote.
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Hearkening back to the days of Stephen Harper, he didn't have a supply and confidence agreement with
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anyone in opposition, but he was still effectively able to govern in a minority sense. So, that could
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still happen. But it really requires, ultimately, some cooperation or a breakdown on that cooperation
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to trigger an election. Yes. Okay. So, people are here worried that we might not make it to 2025
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in terms of the affordability crisis, the housing crisis factor, airports are broken, can't get a
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passport, you know, groceries are insane right now. People are worried about that and how we are going
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to get some fiscal sanity back to Ottawa, but also an economy that isn't, here in Canada, our economy is
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basically, at the moment, built on real estate. Yeah. Right? Like, that is very dangerous. Yeah.
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And it's not just constituents in opposition-held ridings that have these concerns. I gotta think
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that constituents in the Liberal-held ridings are experiencing the same difficulties. You would hope.
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You would hope. And so, to answer that question, my hope is that these constituents are voicing their
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concerns directly to that minister, directly to the Prime Minister in Montreal, directly to those
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backbench MPs, crying out for change. Collectively, we've got the ability to do that as Canadians.
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We've been trying to do that on behalf of Canadians as the official opposition,
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but you know, well, Jamie goes in one ear and out the other. And we're often accused of extorting
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all kinds of negative rhetoric, trying to divide Canadians. It's rather rich that the Prime Minister
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accuses us of trying to strum up fear and divide Canadians, when all he has done, literally for
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the last three years, is exactly that. It's the pot calling the kettle black. Yep. Right?
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Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. And that's the irony of all of this. It is.
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Yes. Absolute irony. Okay. We have about two minutes left. We have to get up to question period.
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Thank you all for comments. We're trying to get through this as quick as possible. This is our
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first time doing that, so we do appreciate your patience. We'll probably have to have Larry on
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again and do this again. We'll probably, maybe we'll... The mandates, because they had to get back to
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some level of normalcy. And we as an official opposition, we were articulating that loudly and
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clearly every single day in the House, of course, falling on deaf ears. So it's not merely coincidental
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that the government lifts all the mandates a week after our leader, our new leader is chosen.
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It was well-timed. Of course, it was well-timed. But yeah, I think Canadians have every right to say that
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they, this particular government has made things far worse.
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Yeah. So Jay writes in, prices are so high that I started growing my own vegetables in my 600 square
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foot condo. What are you doing to make life more affordable?
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We are trying to, trying to, to impress upon the government that instead of wasting the billions
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and millions of dollars on unnecessary contracts, that they provide some form of relief. I know that
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the NDP have been screaming rather loudly that it's really the manufacturers and the grocery chains
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that are gouging the cost of essential food products to the, to the Canadian public. I think
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that there could be some truth in that, but there's still a lot of things that the federal government
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could be doing in terms of offsetting the inflationary increases in these prices. So
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we will continue to push the government to look at innovative ways, maybe even tax breaks, temporary tax
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breaks to, to ensure that the Canadians can be fed and aren't relying upon food banks, which,
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which unfortunately is, is the reality today. Yeah. We could also stop making it harder for farmers to
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do their job. That's correct. Why? You know, one way to bring down prices is to add supply. Right. Right.
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That's true from concert tickets to gasoline. Right. You add more supply, the price is going to go down. And
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what has this government done each and every step of the way? Made it harder and more expensive for
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farmers to do their job. Right. Made it harder and more expensive for energy companies to produce
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the, the, the gasoline, the oil, the gasoline, extract the oil, produce gasoline all through the, the chain
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and bring it to your pumps. How many taxes? Over a third of the price of a liter of gasoline is taxes. Correct.
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So maybe the government should think of ways to get out of the way, stop keeping their hand out all
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the time and digging in the back of your pockets, let Canadians make choices that are best made for
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them. Just my opinion. It's a good opinion. And it's an opinion that's shared by our leader, of course.
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All right. Okay. So, um, this one comes from two people, actually. Um, it says about, um, the UN
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sustainable development goals and these, uh, 15 minutes cities, I think we've heard, uh, saw videos
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and, and read information about how, uh, coming from different organizations, one that wants more
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government upon people, right? They, they want you out of your car. You stay within a 15 minute square
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radius. Me, the super smart politician is going to still travel the globe and enjoy all the luxury life
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has to offer, but we'll keep people in a 15 minute cube and, uh, there's your life. Enjoy it. Right.
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Um, so I think there is some concern among a number of viewers. I've seen more and more comments pop up
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about, uh, this overarching control that the government seems to have on people. And it's coming
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from people that are well-fed and well-kept, right? From the UN, from the World Economic Forum,
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which is not about the economy. It just seems to be a, a, a, a performance show for the world's elite
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to come together and impose more government on the people. It's not about solving problems because
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they're solving by just adding more government, more control, right? Let, let, you know, the mindless
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masses can stay within their 15 minute border while we'll just, we'll just take care of the problems
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for you. And pardon the pun. That really is the blueprint for socialism. That is absolutely.
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Really? Yes. That that's in a nutshell. Yeah. Absolutely. And this is, this is the problem,
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right? The, these people that gather at these elite conferences, name them, there's a bunch of them.
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They eat the finest cuts of meat. They stay at the finest hotels. They get the best of luxury that is
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available. And you don't see bugs on their plates. No. That's just for the, the little people. Right.
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Right. And when you have our own leader who is still not prepared to admit through the process of
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elimination, that he and he alone was responsible for billing the taxpayers 30,000 dollars for a one
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week stay at a five star hotel in London, it is obscene. And that's what these leftist leaders want to do.
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It's as rules for them and rules for the rest of us.
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Yes. You mentioned the, the WEF, the, the once a year super elite, uh, conference, uh, for the super rich.
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You take a look, I, I saw pictures, just streams and streams of these extremely multi-billion dollar
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jets sitting there. And yet they're screaming and crying about climate change. Well, you know what,
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if you really want to make an impact and you want to see change lead by example. Absolutely. And, and these
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leaders cannot do that. But that's not what that's about. It's about control. It's about control. Let's
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strip away the, the freedoms, the rights that people have. Let's strip them away one by one.
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And, and you'll be better off. You'll, the people will be better off because we're, we just know best,
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right? We will control competition with barriers because we're cuddly with government. We're seeing that
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already happening. Right. So you won't get any new or better products. You'll, you'll take what we give
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you. You'll be in government transportation, go to a government school. Right. And then go to your
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government job. Right. This, they're laying out their blueprint. Right. For all to see. Right. This is
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something that we are trying to fight against, but also educate with that. So you need to share this
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program. This is why we keep saying that. You have people in your network that would love to hear,
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I'm sure this message. So let's, let's keep pushing on that and, uh, and watching for this. Okay. So,
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uh, yeah, more questions about, uh, McKinsey. You mentioned that earlier in your opening remarks,
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a hundred million dollars that the federal government, that we know of, that we know of,
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I'm sure that number has probably undervalued. It seems to creep up every week. We're at a hundred and
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almost 120 million dollars now. Um, I know our leader asked repeatedly yesterday in question
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period, which is a fair question that all Canadians have an absolute right to know where their tax
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dollars are being spent. What really is that number? Okay. And of course, Justin Trudeau and,
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and the rest of his cabinet members, uh, just simply refused to even acknowledge that question was on the
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table. And they talked about how great it is again, that, uh, you know, that we are working towards
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and what's, what's his favorite line about, uh, improving the lives of the middle class and those
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who are trying to achieve that, that status. Well, what, what is that yardstick? How do you define the
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middle class? Because I haven't been able to find it because those yardsticks keep on moving.
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At this point right now, I see the liberal, liberal, uh, elite, and I've got the rest of us
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struggling to make ends meet, to put food on their table, to pay their bills, to put gas in their
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tanks, to get back and forth from work. This should not be happening in a G7 country. It is in Canada.
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Absolutely. And this is, this is what we're, we're continued to, to push on this is why this is
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happening. So, uh, let's see what else we got here. Um, we are, sorry, they're coming in pretty
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fast here. Um, this was in regards to, well, uh, is it a conflict of interest for Minister Freeland to
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sit on the board at the World Economic Forum? So. There's, there's, there's a number of ways that
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you can take a look at that. I don't want this to be a, a debate on the merits of the WEF. I have my
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strong feelings about that. Um, she has been part and parcel of the WEF for a number of years. I know
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other liberal members as well have been. Um, so I, I don't really don't feel comfortable Jamie
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weighing in at this point. I, I think there are, there are some issues, but I'll, I'll keep my
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personal opinion to myself. Yeah, for sure. And I think we talked about the fact that the WEF and
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other groups have an idea of what they see the world coming to, which is basically more government
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imposed on people. But they don't realize that when the gates close, they'll be on the same side
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as all the rest of us, right? We'll be all locked inside. I, I guess, you know, socialism is great
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if you're at the high table, I think. If you're making all the decisions, you get the best of
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everything. All you have to do is control the people. Right. That, that's basically what it is,
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right? You know, you take from A, give to B. If there's a problem, you restrict A and B.
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It's not that hard. Socialism does not require any brilliance whatsoever. It is a pretty even
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formula. You crush everyone, push them down, make everyone equally miserable. But you don't have to
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live by the rules if you're at the high table. Right. If you're choosing what's on the menu,
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you still get the best. You still get the private jets. You get traffic pushed out of your way if there
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is any, right? Like this is, this is what, this is what I think they're all signing on to have time
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for one more than closing remarks here. Um, this comes from Rick. Okay. So with all the, the breaches,
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the liberal government's responsible for, why do we need the NDP to keep supporting the liberals?
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Shouldn't this be enough to keep, uh, have this government removed? Fortunately, that's how our system
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works. It's how our system works. This Trudeau government is the most ethically challenged
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government this Canadian, uh, Canadians have ever seen. Um, I've, I've lost track as to how many ethical
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violations they have been found guilty of. Um, unfortunately our, as you know, Jamie, our ethic,
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laws as it relates to politicians is quite lax in terms of consequences. The biggest consequence is
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at the ballot box. And that's where I hope Canadians will remember. And we'll certainly
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remind them of course, as, as members of the opposition, as to how ethically challenged this
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government was for the last eight years. All right, Larry, as you know, last words,
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it's been a different kind of structure that we've had here today, but any last words before we, we cut
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out of here? It's important, Jamie, that, uh, you and I as parliamentarians give Canadians this
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opportunity. Um, I don't think liberals are doing this. I don't think the government does this. We
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need to do this. This is, this is our ability to show how open and transparent we intend to be. We
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are now, but we intend to be as the next government in waiting. So I would encourage more and more people
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to reach out to not only you and myself, but to other members of parliament in their ridings,
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voice their concerns, show their support, follow them, keep on top of things. And we will continue
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to be your voice for change. All right, Larry Brock, member of parliament, Brantford Brant,
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we appreciate his time. We appreciate your time as well as also your questions. They were absolutely
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fantastic. We do apologize. We didn't get to all of them. They were coming in fast and furious, but,
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uh, we will have Larry on again and do this again with a better structure here so that we're able to
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