The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - Our Conservative Plan

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm

00:00:08.860 your host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton for the Lakes Brock. Thank

00:00:12.460 you once again for joining us because we do have new content every single Tuesday, 1.30

00:00:17.120 p.m. Eastern Time. We are not stopping. We are not slowing down. We are providing this

00:00:21.820 information because, of course, if you listen to the media, election speculation is top

00:00:26.640 of mind. So with that, we ask that you like, subscribe, share this program, help us push

00:00:32.020 back against the ever-moving liberal agenda because there might be someone in your social

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00:00:39.540 from the mainstream media. This is your opportunity to help do that and ensure that Aaron O'Toole

00:00:44.120 is the next Prime Minister of Canada. Of course, as always, if you can't watch the program in

00:00:49.360 its entirety right this second, you can download it later on on platforms like CastBox, iTunes,

00:00:54.220 Google Play, Spotify, you name it, it is out there. As I mentioned, election speculation

00:00:59.460 top of mind in the media. It always seems to be in the headlines. Justin Trudeau denies

00:01:04.740 it, but he is certainly traveling the country spending your hard-earned money. And to talk

00:01:09.580 about that, we have Mike Lake, a good friend of the show. He's coming back from Edmonton,

00:01:13.680 Wetaskiwin, the Member of Parliament, also a broadcaster himself. He has a podcast. We'll talk

00:01:19.180 about that a little later on. But Mike, thank you very much for coming back and joining

00:01:22.460 us. It's great to be here, Jamie. Always appreciate it.

00:01:26.320 Well, in the last election, you won, just to get this right, with the largest margin in

00:01:32.060 Canadian history in terms of raw votes. 53,000 votes separated you between your competitor.

00:01:40.700 Yeah, we had a great team in the election. Of course, Alberta is a pretty conservative part

00:01:48.960 of the world. And we were fortunate. We worked hard. And I think we received 63,000 votes and

00:01:55.940 our nearest competitor was around 10,000. And it's a different dynamic in this riding. It's

00:02:01.220 the biggest constituency in the country by population right now. And even with that, the

00:02:05.880 Liberals couldn't find a constituent to actually run in the election. They had to bring somebody

00:02:11.040 from outside the riding to run in the election here. So got a team ready to go. And that team's

00:02:17.620 working hard preparing for this next one whenever it might come. It seems like it's going to

00:02:22.280 be sooner than later.

00:02:24.020 Well, I think despite that margin of victory, you and others, regardless of where they are

00:02:29.300 in the country, we're all working hard because we don't take anything for granted. We know

00:02:33.140 Canadians want to hear a clear message. We got, as a party, five top priorities we want to

00:02:39.600 talk about. I'll get into them in just a second. But your team's out there. You're ready

00:02:44.760 to go if an election call is, you know, on the advice of the Prime Minister to the Governor

00:02:51.200 General, which could come at any time. But the problem is we have the pandemic still upon

00:02:56.760 us. We have, unfortunately, fires burning in many parts of the country that need to be

00:03:02.780 dealt with, that need the attention of all levels of government. The Prime Minister is just

00:03:06.880 looking for political opportunity that could benefit him.

00:03:09.900 Oh, absolutely. I mean, there is there is zero reason that we should be in election right

00:03:16.180 now. You know, we talk about the fact that we'll be ready. We don't take anything for

00:03:20.040 granted and all of those things because we have to be. And I think volunteers understand

00:03:24.100 that in a minority parliament that you've got to be ready. But the reality is, this is a

00:03:29.100 situation that we shouldn't even be in right now. The the pandemic has been a time when

00:03:36.500 we've seen politicians from all sides trying to find some common ground. We haven't haven't

00:03:43.740 always been listened to or been part of the conversations, much as the the the government

00:03:48.240 likes to use taglines like Team Canada approach. And we're all in this together. The reality

00:03:53.960 in parliament is that that hasn't been the case. More often than not. But still, you know,

00:04:00.540 we're we're we're facing challenges. There are concerns about variants and where we go

00:04:05.140 from here. And Canadians, I think at this point in time, would like to see their government

00:04:10.220 working together with the opposition parties to have, you know, see the best outcomes for

00:04:15.980 Canadians. And and we're not seeing that right now. Instead, we're, you know, moving full steam

00:04:22.140 ahead towards an election that I you know, the people that we're talking talking to on the

00:04:26.820 ground nobody really wants right now. Yeah, I can agree with you more. What I'm

00:04:31.560 hearing a lot too, is is a lot of similar themes. And I think we as a party as the official

00:04:36.940 opposition, hopefully, the next government of the country have really tapped into the

00:04:41.120 five priorities. Of course, if you haven't, the viewers or listeners, it's securing jobs,

00:04:46.720 securing accountability, securing mental health, securing a country and securing Canada's

00:04:51.620 economy, all of which has taken a huge hit in this pandemic. And even before, like, Mike,

00:04:58.600 you're a great advocate for mental health, even before the pandemic. You know, obviously,

00:05:03.700 the pandemic has really exasperated the situation. Maybe you can tell us a bit about that.

00:05:09.200 Yeah, you know, I mean, so a few thoughts on that. When you take a look at the five priorities,

00:05:13.200 they are all connected. Of course, the, you know, securing the country, that one's front and

00:05:18.460 center in terms of our approach to the pandemic and making sure we're ready for whatever it is

00:05:23.300 that comes our way from a global standpoint down the road. But when you take a look at and you

00:05:29.520 reference the fact that I've done a lot of work on mental health, I've done a lot of work on

00:05:33.160 autism and developmental disability. I have a son, Jaden, who's 25 now with autism. And I do a lot of

00:05:40.680 work on international development and those kind of things that have to do with vulnerable people.

00:05:44.360 When you take a look at those things, you know, for people for whom health care, education,

00:05:50.300 social services, that sort of safety net that we talk about in Canada, for people who for whom those

00:05:54.560 things are important, which I think is most Canadians, it's really important not only that

00:05:59.780 we fund those things in the short term, but that we're also able to fund those things in the long

00:06:04.320 term. And the big concern that I have right now when we take a look at Canada's fiscal situation is

00:06:09.560 that we are going to be really challenged in those areas in the long term. And we only have

00:06:15.940 to take a look back at a previous Trudeau government to provide us an example of that because the Pierre

00:06:22.480 Trudeau government ran deficits in 14 out of 15 years when they were in power. And there wasn't a

00:06:28.260 need to run those deficits at that time. It was a big government, big spending, a big spending

00:06:33.240 government. And as interest rates escalated, and the government took a pretty tough positions on

00:06:42.780 energy, and we all remember the National Energy Program out here in the West, it really had a

00:06:50.500 debilitating effect on the economy. And it was really a generation later with the Martin

00:06:54.960 Chrétien Liberals in the late 90s that we saw the impact of that when they cut $35 billion from

00:07:01.360 transfers to the provinces for healthcare, social services and education. And I fear that we're

00:07:05.200 going down that road again. And so, you know, we talk about mental health being one of the five

00:07:10.800 priorities, but really getting Canadians working has to be absolutely front of mind right now.

00:07:18.820 And having some plan to get the budget back to balance so that we have that flexibility in our

00:07:23.840 budgeting and ensure our long term ability to fund the things that are important to Canadians is

00:07:29.440 absolutely critical right now. And nobody in the Liberal government is talking about that.

00:07:34.060 Well, the Parliamentary Budget Officer came out with a bit of a report recently talking about

00:07:37.980 the path that we're on, the current government, the path that they are taking us doesn't see the

00:07:43.440 budget being balanced for upwards of 20 to 30 years. That's absolutely incredible. Like,

00:07:49.960 how can you continue to run the country on the credit card for that length of time,

00:07:54.940 and not even have a second thought about impacting how services are delivered, how the tax rates are

00:08:02.820 set, how interest rates are going to impact our capability as a country to service that debt?

00:08:08.880 Absolutely. It's highly, highly experimental. And I think you make some good points. And the

00:08:16.380 challenge is Parliament should be sitting to have conversations like this, to discuss these types

00:08:22.360 of things. We've gone a year and a half. I mean, remember that most of this Parliament,

00:08:26.920 we didn't actually have Parliament sitting like it's supposed to. We had a glorified committee

00:08:31.680 sitting in the main chamber at one point in time. But it hasn't been, you know, it hasn't been the

00:08:38.480 same setup that we've used over the years, over our history as a country, that enables us to get to the

00:08:46.960 best end result in terms of debate, meaningful, passionate debate, disagreement, that sort of

00:08:53.540 cut and thrust of Parliament that gets you to the result that you need. And we're suffering because

00:08:57.680 of it. And, you know, there's an added challenge in that, I would say, having watched the media over

00:09:05.120 time, I mean, it's fair to say, I think, reasonably, most Canadians would understand that our media in

00:09:09.660 general over time has been more left leaning. But it's a little bit disheartening to see the fact

00:09:16.020 that the media aren't asking these same tough questions at all, either. And so we need to have

00:09:21.080 that forum to be able to do that. And instead, we're shutting down Parliament right now and going

00:09:25.420 into an election campaign, which, you know, doesn't give that opportunity. Sure, it's an opportunity for

00:09:32.500 parties to put forward their different visions. And I think that we have a strong plan moving

00:09:37.700 forward. But, you know, Canadians are not well served with, you know, with the government robbing

00:09:43.940 us of the chance to really heartily debate stuff in the House and ask these tough questions.

00:09:50.860 It seems that in that report that the government is really relying on the fact that interest rates will

00:09:55.580 stay low for the foreseeable future. And if that those interest rates go up, if there is a bump in

00:10:02.840 the economy, we take a downturn, all the numbers that the government is projecting are thrown off

00:10:08.200 majorly. And this this will have a significant impact. Not only that, as you talked about, Mike,

00:10:14.800 we are borrowing and printing money at an alarming rate right now. And not all of it is going to COVID

00:10:20.700 release. Obviously, in the budget, very little, aside from the planned increase was going to actual

00:10:27.360 health care to long term care to to health care to to you name it. It we've seen a whole bunch of

00:10:34.560 money just couched in that COVID language that has nothing to do with COVID. And that I think is the

00:10:41.360 issue. The issue at hand is, is the liberals are spending because they love to spend on the credit

00:10:47.440 card. It'll be someone else's mess. But yet they couch it in the language of COVID.

00:10:52.300 You're right. It's a it's a short term electoral calculation. And I mean, certainly, let's let's

00:10:57.640 face it. I mean, any government that was in power at this point in time is going to be challenged

00:11:02.160 fiscally. I mean, we we went through with the global economic meltdown, we went through a situation

00:11:06.740 when we were in government that we had to take measures that, you know, that we didn't think that

00:11:11.920 we would ever have to take in terms of deficit spending. And so, you know, it would have been

00:11:15.880 challenging for anybody. But what's bothersome here is the complete disregard for the types

00:11:21.200 of questions that you're asking. Pierre, Pierre Pauly of has done some fantastic work as as most of

00:11:27.900 your, your followers here would know, asking questions about these very things about inflation

00:11:33.180 rate and, you know, the cost of printing money and how that affects people on fixed incomes and so

00:11:38.800 many different areas. We had the opportunity in in the chamber one night to question Christian

00:11:44.260 Freeland, the finance minister about interest rates. And what was really troubling isn't that

00:11:50.200 there's different sort of views and philosophy around potential interest rate increases. It was

00:11:57.480 the fact that every single question repeatedly, when we're repeatedly asked about, have you considered

00:12:04.480 what happens if interest rates go up? Her answer completely ignored the question and shot back at,

00:12:12.120 you know, with, you know, with, you know, comments about conservatives playing political games and

00:12:18.280 those kinds of things and just completely ignored the question. But if you take a look back at the

00:12:22.940 Pierre Trudeau example that I spoke of earlier, the 20% interest rates that we saw in the early 80s,

00:12:30.320 I think August of 81, I think the interest rate was about 20%. They didn't just, you know, they didn't just

00:12:36.380 get there. In 10 years earlier, I think the interest rate was around 5% in August of 71. And by August of 76, I

00:12:43.940 think it was, you know, 11%. And then by August of, of 81, it was 20%. It seems like reasonable, prudent

00:12:51.580 planning to consider these possibilities right now. And there's no sign that the government is actually doing that.

00:12:58.300 It seems like, you know, it seems like there's a never ending pool of money, just going out the door

00:13:04.960 with no consideration of the long term impact. And quite, quite frankly, in that regard, those concerns,

00:13:12.580 the concerns my constituents have had pre COVID are the same concerns that they have now.

00:13:17.040 Oh, absolutely. And as Pierre says, we need to get back into the paycheck economy. And that goes to

00:13:23.700 another pillar, which is securing jobs, but also something that your province, Saskatchewan

00:13:29.040 have been dealing with too. It's the policies of this liberal government that are shutting down

00:13:34.900 expansion in our anchors of the economy and oil and gas in mining is hurting right now. Because of

00:13:43.380 poor government policy, it isn't the market making these, these demand changes that are causing the

00:13:49.180 industry to hurt. It is actual government policy domestically, that is causing these real problems

00:13:56.180 and groups and Pierre Paulyev has pointed this out groups that, you know, the his holiness, Mark Carney

00:14:02.120 is managing the funds they're managing are investing in oil and gas. They're just not in Canada. They're

00:14:07.460 just not in North America. They're they're elsewhere. Yeah, no, it's a it's a major challenge. And

00:14:13.120 you know, you talk about the market, and whether the market's making decisions or companies are making

00:14:17.820 decisions not to make these investments. Well, it, it is fair to say so if you take a look at TransCanada,

00:14:24.040 and the decision to abandon the Energy East project back in, I think it was about 2017,

00:14:31.080 might have been 16, but I think it was 17. You take a look at that. And the liberals in question

00:14:35.340 period would say, well, the company made a, you know, a business decision to walk away. Well,

00:14:41.640 of course, they made that business decision, they had spent over a billion dollars in a regulatory

00:14:45.860 process. And then the liberals changed the regulatory process as it was nearing completion.

00:14:51.740 And the business made a decision that with that kind of uncertainty, we can't afford to invest

00:14:56.240 another billion dollars in a regulatory process that we don't really know where it's going to go.

00:15:01.820 So that's the type of environment. And that's the type of decisions forced when you have a government

00:15:06.280 that, you know, is so antagonistic to industry, antagonistic to investment. And, you know,

00:15:13.080 we talked earlier about the vote totals in the constituency here in the last election campaign

00:15:19.320 and support for our party here. But what people across the country have to recognize is there's

00:15:26.660 a reason for that, you know, for that discontent with the government. And it leads to even more

00:15:32.920 discontent content, because there's such a disconnection between the things that are important

00:15:38.200 here and what they see the government doing there. And there seems to be no real attempt on the part

00:15:45.180 of the government to understand the positions here. And certainly, as you know, I mean, we make this

00:15:51.000 argument all the time, we have a solid plan on the environment as a party that we're proud to put in

00:15:56.380 the window and to discuss. But there's a balance to be had. And people in my part of the country and

00:16:03.780 our part of the country just don't see any balance to the conversation at all. And you want to talk

00:16:08.660 about something that just drives people crazy is the fact that while we're having this conversation,

00:16:14.840 while we can't build a pipeline, particularly an east-west pipeline, we're bringing in over 600,000

00:16:19.900 barrels of oil into Atlantic Canada from countries like Nigeria and Algeria and Saudi Arabia. And I can

00:16:28.120 assure you that oil is not subject to the same rigorous emissions standards as oil coming from Alberta,

00:16:33.440 Saskatchewan and Newfoundland. And that's, you know, that's just that's just pure politics that

00:16:38.700 leads to a result in, you know, a result like that, as opposed to any evidence based decision

00:16:45.020 making. And that just drives people crazy out west. Absolutely, considering we have massive reserves that

00:16:51.560 we would just like to get to market to sell at a fair price. And well, absolutely. And I'll point out,

00:16:56.300 not only do we have massive reserves, but we have an industry in Canada, more committed to clean

00:17:02.180 development than any industry in the world. And that is completely discounted by this government.

00:17:09.340 So let's talk about another pillar, securing accountability, it kind of goes to the point

00:17:12.920 you were just making with big government, big lobbyists making decisions far away from the

00:17:17.880 people far away from the actual impact on the ground. So we're talking about new corruption laws

00:17:23.120 that we'd like to bring in, of course, with this government, you've seen that we scanned all the

00:17:26.500 trip to Billionaire Island, S&C Lavalin, the list goes on, and on and on. But it also goes to how

00:17:33.140 we're actually creating environment for private sector growth in this country to provide the free

00:17:39.100 market choice to allow an individual, a group of people to come up with an idea, put it together,

00:17:44.940 come up with a product or service that others want to buy freely with their own money.

00:17:48.460 But when you go to the big government model, the big, huge corporation model, they have the lawyers

00:17:56.060 and the lobbyists meet in Ottawa, talk to government officials. And in most cases, you get barriers to

00:18:01.880 competition added, because in a lot of cases, big companies, a new regulation, a new rule doesn't

00:18:06.840 really affect them. But if you're starting out or going from small to medium, all these rules,

00:18:11.420 all these regulations hurt your chances of succeeding. And that's not what we should be doing. We should be

00:18:16.700 building things here in this country. Oh, absolutely. You know, the transparency and

00:18:21.900 accountability that we talk about, clarity, predictability, those are things that are

00:18:26.140 completely missing. And I think you make a really good point that it is virtually impossible to get

00:18:32.480 something started unless you have a team of lawyers and advisors willing to wade through all of the

00:18:38.360 red tape and paperwork. And, you know, a strong regulatory regime is important, right? We want to make

00:18:45.460 sure that we preserve the environment, we want to make sure that, you know, our kids and grandkids, you know,

00:18:51.220 enjoy this beautiful country, like, like, we've had a chance to enjoy it. But it can, there's a limit to that.

00:18:59.120 And, and there can, you know, when you get multiple levels of government laying on layering on regulation

00:19:05.020 upon regulation upon regulation, eventually get to a point where just nothing can get done. And, you know, really

00:19:12.220 smart people who have really fantastic ideas have no way to navigate the system. It becomes virtually

00:19:19.500 impossible. And, you know, you take a look at some of the problems that we've had in the past or that,

00:19:23.660 you know, we take a look at the global meltdown in 2008, 2009, 2010. Really, when you take a look at,

00:19:29.560 there's a lot of factors in that. But one of the factors that was critical was a system that was so

00:19:34.740 confusing that only the people within that system, I was going to say understood it, but even the people

00:19:40.200 within the system didn't understand it. And you can get that way with, you know, a regulatory system

00:19:45.020 that's so burdensome that, you know, nobody can navigate it. And you know what the problem is,

00:19:49.900 and I know we've gone way over time. But the problem with that, as you just mentioned, is that

00:19:54.180 because of those roadblocks, and again, Pierre Paul, you have the gatekeeper economy, because of that,

00:20:00.980 we don't know the impact of the people who just walk away and don't try something that don't come up,

00:20:06.000 don't bother following through with their idea or their product, because it's just one roadblock

00:20:11.080 after another. And it's just easier at some times just to put up your hands and walk away. And that's

00:20:14.740 something we don't want to happen. But that's something that is happening.

00:20:18.700 Absolutely, absolutely. And, you know, it happens in so many different areas. And in our part of the

00:20:24.180 world, you know, we've got no shortage of examples of companies that have, you know, pulled up stakes

00:20:29.700 and moved somewhere else or, or, or retired early or not, you know, move forward with their,

00:20:37.100 their business that they want to move forward in. But there's other areas where this has impact,

00:20:40.740 you know, I think about employment for people with disabilities, right, or developmental disabilities

00:20:45.820 or other disabilities. And, you know, oftentimes, the biggest impediment to moving forward is just

00:20:53.040 what's perceived as risk, you know, just the challenges around those types of things that

00:21:00.480 don't really have to do with companies wanting to hire people and people billing, being willing to

00:21:05.680 work. It's, it's more of a, you know, it's a red tape that gets in the way and liability, potential

00:21:10.880 liability and lack of clarity that get in the way of these things. So there's just so many areas where

00:21:15.840 these are challenges. And we just need to do better. And I love the fact that we're setting a big goal,

00:21:21.580 you know, a million, a million new jobs. I think it's something that we can do. And, you know,

00:21:29.000 I think this is the conversation, this is going to be absolutely central to the upcoming campaign.

00:21:35.060 I think you're absolutely right. I think that the evidence has shown us that when the government

00:21:39.740 gets out of the way, the economy will create jobs, the market will provide, you'll see massive,

00:21:45.560 massive development, massive manufacturing, you will see these jobs come back, we just need to get out

00:21:50.340 of the way and start to streamline some of these application process, the regulatory regimes that

00:21:55.640 are in place. And I think we're going to do that. We are way over time, Mike, this is a great

00:22:00.320 conversation. I don't want to let you go. But I do know you have other things on today. Maybe you can

00:22:04.900 quickly talk about your podcast, which has got great attention from from a whole bunch of traditional

00:22:10.480 media, just how you're bringing people together and the conversations that are taking place.

00:22:14.680 Well, it's kind of it's kind of funny, because it's, it's not actually a podcast. It's not broadcast.

00:22:19.260 It's a, it's a zoom happy hour that we put together. We have one coming up today, we do them about three

00:22:24.480 times a week, where we just bring nine or 10 people together for, you know, 90 minutes from across the

00:22:31.180 political spectrum, and have conversations about whatever anybody wants to talk about. And, you know,

00:22:36.800 it's one of those things that as a member of parliament for 15 years, you, you get a chance to meet a lot of

00:22:41.620 really great people who are doing great things. And, and, and I love to introduce people to each

00:22:47.460 other. And so we found that rather than sending emails to, you know, two people to connect them,

00:22:53.400 which we all do when we meet great people, and we think, oh, there's someone that we can connect with,

00:22:57.200 how much better would it be if we brought nine of them together to have a conversation? And it's been,

00:23:02.780 it's been fantastic. And now, we don't publish, we don't publicly broadcast those meetings,

00:23:07.040 it's kind of a safe space to have a conversation, and everybody trusts that space. But what we

00:23:11.480 have seen is that people started to write about it with permission. And we've done a couple of mini

00:23:16.900 versions on other people's podcasts. And so it does seem to be having some traction. And, you know,

00:23:21.840 it's one of those things that we're just encouraging people to within their own worlds. You know, one of

00:23:25.520 the things we've learned during this campaign is, or this, this pandemic is that we've got, you know,

00:23:29.980 we've got this incredible virtual tool, whatever platform it is that people use, and you can reach

00:23:37.200 people from across the world. And, you know, from a mental health standpoint, we need connection,

00:23:42.220 you know, we need to be meaningfully connected. And we've got the tools now to do that in ways that

00:23:47.280 we haven't before. So it's been hugely successful. We are trying to figure out where we go with it now,

00:23:52.520 because it's been successful sort of on a private level. But I do think that there's room for us to

00:23:57.360 do something a little bit more publicly. And, you know, it's always nice, though, to come on a podcast

00:24:02.940 like yours that has a following, and people get a chance to hear about it. But for those that are

00:24:07.220 following, just highly, highly encourage you to reach out with you within in your own networks.

00:24:12.400 And people are longing for that connection right now. And that meaningful conversation in a little

00:24:17.900 bit more of a safe space where you can brainstorm and throw ideas out there. And they're not going to

00:24:22.020 be tied to you on social media for the rest of your life. That that's something that we're lacking

00:24:27.040 right now. And I think it's, it's, you know, we're, we're less off as a society because of that.

00:24:32.460 I couldn't agree with you more. Mike Lake, thank you so much for coming on the program and joining

00:24:36.540 us. I really appreciate it.

00:24:39.960 Anytime, Jamie. I love that you do this. I love the opportunity to have the conversation. And

00:24:44.580 best of luck if I don't see you in person in, in the next few weeks, we'll understand where

00:24:51.400 everybody's at.

00:24:53.200 Likewise, Mike Lake, a member of parliament for Edmonton, Wetaskiwun. We do appreciate his time.

00:24:57.360 Good friend of the show. We do appreciate him coming on. We had a great conversation. And because of that,

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - August 05, 2021

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