The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - The Liberal’s agenda of division

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your

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00:00:31.480 out there. Parliament is out. It adjourned last week with a bit of a bang. And to talk about

00:00:36.420 that and much, much more, who else would we have on the show this week? But the dynamic

00:00:40.340 duo of Glenn Motts and Larry Brock. So we have Medicine, Pat, Cartston-Warner and Bradford

00:00:44.940 Brandt. Thank you, gentlemen, once again. It's great to be here. Always a pleasure. I have

00:00:49.600 one quick question. When are we going to rename the show The Schmael, Brock and Motts Podcast?

00:00:55.560 We should. We really should. We'll have to get, maybe that's a summer project. I think

00:00:59.320 so. Yeah, maybe that's a summer, not a bad idea. But always a pleasure. Always a pleasure

00:01:03.460 to be on your show. I thought, who else should we have on to wrap up this session of Parliament

00:01:08.060 and get your thoughts on it? What grade do you give it? If you give it this session of

00:01:13.060 Parliament, if you give it anything more than an F, I think you can leave it out. No, but

00:01:17.560 seriously, what do you get, what do you, how do you think it went? Man, it's obviously an

00:01:21.560 F, a big fat F. And, but where do you start to support that, justify it? There's so many,

00:01:28.460 there's so many different aspects of the failures of this government. You know, where you can

00:01:34.460 start on C21, you can start on the Emergencies Act, you can, you can deal with Bernardo transfer,

00:01:39.600 you can deal with, uh, so many other things, the, the foreign, you know, foreign, uh, interference,

00:01:44.500 soft on crime, bail reform, like on and on and on and all the scandals. It's like,

00:01:50.500 wow, I'm surprised the, uh, the, the NDP hasn't dropped on like a hot potato yet.

00:01:55.180 I'm pretty sure too. Larry, your thoughts?

00:01:58.240 Mine's an HF.

00:01:59.700 Oh, an HF, wow. 0.98

00:02:01.340 Hypocritical failures. 0.72

00:02:02.500 You're adding the Brock standard.

00:02:05.400 Eight years of abject failure right across the board. And I think for, from my perspective,

00:02:12.300 Jamie, as a, as a first time, uh, politician was, I was hoping to see politics done differently.

00:02:21.280 I was hoping to see that promises made would be promises kept. I was hoping to see that there

00:02:29.700 would be some truth in what Justin Trudeau promised Canadians by looking Canadians right

00:02:35.860 in the eye, as I am right now looking into this camera, where he promised to have the

00:02:40.960 most revolutionary type of government this country has ever seen. Hallmarks of transparency,

00:02:47.240 accountability, and it's just been nothing, as my colleague has indicated, nothing but complete

00:02:52.860 failure from top to bottom.

00:02:54.920 In the last four years, I'm kind of happy he hasn't kept his promises, because I think we

00:02:58.100 would have been way worse shape than we are right now. We have crime that's up, violent

00:03:03.980 crimes up, repeat offenders on the, we have, we have, we have teenagers being stabbed in

00:03:08.520 the subway system, in Toronto and elsewhere, we have stabbings on the rise. Um, what do you,

00:03:14.340 are you hearing this in your constituency? Is...

00:03:16.760 The frustration that, uh, that I hear, not only in, in my riding, and other ridings, and

00:03:22.520 other colleagues, uh, is that, um, there is, there seems to be no support any longer for

00:03:29.600 law enforcement, um, and that comes from the government level. So, the fact that they introduced

00:03:36.180 legislation over the years, that went soft on crime, that, uh, ignores victims. You fought

00:03:42.400 your entire career, like I did, for the victims of these crimes. And, and to, to, um, to ensure

00:03:49.840 that, you know, we focus on a criminal, um, that, you know, those, you know, the system

00:03:55.420 is set up to, to ensure that those who are responsible are dealt with according to law. But when things

00:04:02.060 are watered down to the, to, to, to the point where the, the law enforcement people who actually,

00:04:08.280 um, you know, arrest people, investigate, find who, who's responsible, charge them, when that

00:04:14.520 happens, and they are out within hours, in many circumstances, to re-offend again, that

00:04:19.860 makes you wonder why. Makes you wonder, you know, like, what's the purpose of this? So, so,

00:04:25.040 the criminals are no longer afraid of the justice system, because, um, this government has basically,

00:04:32.240 uh, taken its teeth away.

00:04:34.560 I'll go one step further, and I think I mentioned this at least once, if not

00:04:38.160 twice on your program, Jamie, criminals love this liberal government. I saw that as a crown

00:04:46.160 prosecutor. I saw the confidence of these criminals coming in knowing full well, that it didn't

00:04:53.100 matter what I had to say, that didn't matter what type of opposition I put up, either at

00:04:58.960 the bail stage, or at the trial stage, that even if, even if they were convicted, because

00:05:06.440 of the soft on crime agenda this government has introduced since 2015, it's really put

00:05:13.000 shackles on the ability of our judges to do the right thing. It clearly favors the rights 0.80

00:05:18.600 of the criminals over the rights of the communities and the victims.

00:05:21.440 Do you also think there might be another step to this as well? The Liberals, I find, like to

00:05:26.440 use a crisis for an opportunity, right? Like crime is up, violent crime is up on their behalf,

00:05:33.320 because of the actions they took and various, various pieces of legislation, but then to implement

00:05:39.400 their agenda, they can say, well, violent crime is up, then we have to confiscate as many firearms

00:05:44.120 as possible.

00:05:45.000 Look what they did in Nova Scotia.

00:05:46.440 We had the horrific mass shooting and killing in Nova Scotia. And they use that travesty to then

00:05:57.960 introduce their May of 2020 Order and Council firearm ban. You know, hundreds of firearms that,

00:06:06.200 you know, as the evidence is coming out, like then interfering in the actual investigation through

00:06:11.240 their commissioner to say, you know, they want information to try and support their position.

00:06:16.680 It turns out that, you know, the accused in this matter was not a licensed firearm owner.

00:06:22.520 He obtained his firearms illegally. And no matter what legislation they would have introduced,

00:06:27.560 it wouldn't have prevented this from happening, unfortunately. So, yeah, they've used every

00:06:33.640 possible means to try and dupe an otherwise unknowing public into believing that they're

00:06:41.080 actually doing something for public safety. The stats say otherwise.

00:06:45.000 And the crisis, to your point, is the significant number of killings of police officers across this

00:06:53.160 country.

00:06:53.560 Nine in the last 18 months.

00:06:55.160 It seemed that the death of Officer Priscilla, the OPP officer, near my riding, just outside of

00:07:01.400 my riding in southwestern Ontario, became a catalyst for reforms, a catalyst for change, a catalyst for

00:07:09.320 advocacy, police associations, police chiefs, premiers of provinces and territories. And yet,

00:07:17.000 there was still pushback by Minister Lamedi, still pushback in the belief, trying to propagate this

00:07:24.040 belief that our justice system was still working, that our bail system was still working. He was still

00:07:30.520 tagging those lines at our justice committee. Nothing to see here. The system is adequate.

00:07:36.360 Only until this government received the extreme backlash that they did from coast to coast to

00:07:42.600 coast, that they introduced what they deemed to be a bail reform bill. Bill C-48 has yet to be debated

00:07:50.680 at second reading in the House, yet to be studied at committee. It is a dangerously flawed piece of

00:07:58.040 legislation. It is not a reform bill. And if we're looking for future content throughout the summer, I would love

00:08:04.600 an opportunity, Jamie, to come back and explain to our audience the ABCs of what this bill is and the ABCs of

00:08:14.600 our bail system in Canada. Explaining it in plain language so that everybody can understand and realize

00:08:21.960 that this is just a talking piece, a piece of propaganda to make the government look as if they're

00:08:28.200 doing something to address community safety. And even beyond that, but yes, it's your show,

00:08:33.640 fellas. I think we're renaming it. I think we talked about that. But even aside from the public

00:08:39.320 safety, they're kind of the one step further. We always had a suspicion that liberals wanted to

00:08:45.800 have more government control. They would rather more spending, more government-decided industry

00:08:50.440 leading the way, if you will, rather than private industry selling to the marketplace, right? We have big

00:08:55.720 corporations selling to government, them picking winners and losers in the marketplace. You saw

00:08:59.240 this during the pandemic. 40% of what they decide to print and borrow had nothing to do with COVID,

00:09:04.920 but was couched in the language of COVID, right? So you saw their, I think, true agenda,

00:09:10.360 which is massive amounts of spending, buying votes. And on the other side, you saw what happened

00:09:16.200 when the protests were in Ottawa. I think that also showed the other side that they have no

00:09:20.760 problem using the maximum force of government to quell any dissent to their agenda. Couple that

00:09:28.280 with C11, the censorship bill, and many others. I think this kind of, for all to see, they're true

00:09:37.080 colors. Well, you know what? If you disagree with me, say that. No, I don't. I think I'll even take it

00:09:42.920 the Larry Brock step further. And that is to suggest that, that is to suggest that many people,

00:09:51.080 many of the people that write into my office, and I'm sure many MPs offices, suggest that this is a

00:09:56.520 very socialist agenda. When government, when government tells the Canadians, you know what,

00:10:02.280 we have a better idea. We will look after you. Canadians need to realize that government can't

00:10:08.440 give you anything. They haven't taken from you first. Right? We all know that saying, and it's so

00:10:13.800 true. But this government has lost their way. They have lost the moral authority to lead this

00:10:20.920 country. To govern. To govern, absolutely. And they are, I mean, any success of government following

00:10:28.600 who has a different agenda, has a different, you know, getting Canada back, which would be what our

00:10:33.800 conservative position certainly is, it's going to take years and years and years to undo, you know,

00:10:39.480 generation, to undo the damage that was done in eight short years. It's unbelievable. I have, you know,

00:10:47.160 I've been around longer than both of you gentlemen, as far as age. I know you wouldn't know it, but...

00:10:52.040 Yeah, no. I thought you were in your twenties.

00:10:54.200 Yes. But the radical thought, and then the language that's being used, as you indicated earlier,

00:11:03.720 to try and convince Canadians that they're actually being helped by a government who's doing nothing

00:11:09.800 but destroying our country. The government's causing the problem, then trying to swoop in with

00:11:15.000 a so-called solution. And of course... So it's a recipe for danger. Yes. It is creating such fear in

00:11:23.160 this country that I'm having constituents, and I have, as you know, Jamie, a very large social media

00:11:29.160 following. And I've got people from all corners of this country, really debating whether or not

00:11:34.840 they want to continue to live in this country. Right. And we shouldn't be having this discussion

00:11:40.440 in the 21st century. We should be leading the world in terms of, and we still have this reputation that

00:11:47.640 that immigrants want to settle here. But they settle here, and they often say, I'm better off going 1.00

00:11:53.480 back to my home country. Right. That was not the promise that we made to immigrants around the 0.98

00:11:59.720 world. This country was built on immigration. And God knows we still need immigration to fill a number 0.99

00:12:07.800 of positions that are not being met in this country. But the danger of this government rhetoric,

00:12:15.000 taking away our fundamental freedoms, taking away our constitutional rights,

00:12:20.440 the whole aftermath of the convoy movement and the actions taken by this government with an

00:12:28.120 expectation that... And Glenn and I, as you know, are both on the joint parliamentary committee to study

00:12:34.840 the invocation of the Emergencies Act. And we had the Rulo Commission. But there's still one piece of a

00:12:41.160 crucial piece of evidence that's still outstanding out there. And that is, by what legal authority

00:12:49.640 did you exercise the right to invoke this particular act? And to Justice Rulo, when he asked Justice

00:12:57.560 Lamedi that same question, Justice Lamedi said, well, I can't deliver that. And Justice Rulo's comments are,

00:13:04.040 well, I guess we're going to have to trust you. Canadians do not trust this government. And that is

00:13:11.560 a really sad statement for a MP to be making at this point. But it's true. But it is true. I mean,

00:13:17.640 you look, I read recently, you never trust the person or the government or whatever to solve a

00:13:25.480 problem that they themselves created. That's exactly what Canadians need to realize. You can't trust the 0.99

00:13:30.920 Liberal government to solve the problems they've created themselves. We need a full-scale change of

00:13:36.200 government. And I have probably never experienced the erosion of public trust in institutions like

00:13:46.600 government, like law enforcement over the last decade, eight, ten years, eight years for sure.

00:13:52.520 And I'm hearing it, I'm hearing it on the justice side. So many people, I say predominantly the number

00:13:58.280 of my supporters saying, Larry, we do not have a justice system. We have a legal system, a legal

00:14:06.680 system that is being dictated by this Liberal government to advance their interests. And those

00:14:12.440 interests are protecting the rights of the accused. Well, this is how I think the left continues to win

00:14:17.880 elections, not just in Canada, but around the world as well. It keeps that division going. It keeps the

00:14:22.680 fact that you might be maybe against your neighbor for whatever reason, whatever the government tells you

00:14:27.960 the reason is. And then you're looking at them rather than looking at the government and noticing, well, I'm sure many

00:14:33.560 people have noticed that the price of groceries are through the roof, the cost of energy is through the roof.

00:14:37.880 But if you're, you're more or less looking somewhere else because the government is pointing out that your

00:14:42.440 neighbors are awful, evil human beings, you're not actually focused on how horrible the government has managed

00:14:48.120 the situation or created in the first place. Correct. It's not just demonizing Canadians. It's demonizing 0.99

00:14:54.120 duly elected representatives from across this country that constitute the opposition. How dare we

00:15:01.640 criticize the government for these wonderful solutions and wonderful objectives that they're trying to

00:15:09.240 achieve. The number one role of the opposition is to hold this government to account. And quite often

00:15:16.200 that requires, in my opinion, a prosecutorial approach. And God knows we've had so many scandals

00:15:23.000 over the last eight years. There's an abundant amount of material that we can prosecute on. But it's also

00:15:29.000 important that we give Canadians hope and we show Canadians that we are indeed a sophisticated opposition

00:15:36.840 that we are ready to govern in the next, following the next election. Hopefully soon. And ready to

00:15:42.360 bring out truth. Right. That's one thing that's been hidden in this particular government, the liberal

00:15:47.880 government, is truth is a moving scale and on many, many fronts. And I am so looking forward to a time

00:15:56.920 when we have a Poliev conservative government in the next election that will rid the rot.

00:16:07.080 And nothing to see here. If we don't talk about it, then nothing's happening. If we don't get caught,

00:16:12.120 then it didn't happen. Like, people are expecting a government to be accountable to them who elected them.

00:16:18.920 What we don't want is a prime minister who is caught in a crisis, where clearly there's been a breakdown

00:16:25.720 of accountability, to look Canadians in the face and say that this is a learning moment. Yeah. For all of us.

00:16:32.440 For all of us. Well, I didn't create this problem. We didn't create the mess. That's a learning opportunity

00:16:36.200 for you. And it really, it really begs the question. Happens once, I can understand. Maybe twice,

00:16:43.240 I can understand it. When you have a series of significant senior ministers who, for whatever

00:16:51.320 reason, somehow are not funneled the information that impacts this nation on a myriad of issues

00:17:00.200 involving a number of ministers, it really begs the question, what really is contained in these mandate

00:17:07.240 letters that this prime minister delivered? Is it, if there's a crisis, you want to insulate your

00:17:13.160 self so that you can tell Canadians, I wasn't aware of it. Someone else was, someone else didn't

00:17:19.880 deliver the message. Okay. That's not accountability. That is not transparency. The latest being Minister

00:17:27.160 Mendocino. Some nameless, faceless person. Somewhere out there.

00:17:29.800 It stops with him. He is the head of that Ministry of Public Safety. If he can't do the right thing and

00:17:38.280 resign, he has completely lost the trust. He lost the trust of this house, he's lost the trust of Canadians.

00:17:45.400 My most laughable part of this whole session, I know everyone's different, we talked about our

00:17:50.680 favorites and I don't necessarily have that in all seriousness, but was when Justin Trudeau was at a

00:17:56.760 panel at Ottawa University and basically saying, well, I didn't tell anyone to get vaccinated. I,

00:18:02.520 I didn't tell anyone that there'd be consequences. Like what kind of revisionist history are we talking

00:18:08.440 about now? Selective memory. That is unbelievable. And nobody on that stage challenged him. No, no.

00:18:13.960 Nobody said, why would you challenge the prime minister? Yeah. Right. And, and the crowd just, I don't,

00:18:19.640 I can't remember what conference he was at or what he was speaking at. I know there's an Ottawa University

00:18:23.080 background, but nobody said, I think you got that wrong. And nobody in the media followed up too and

00:18:29.880 said, what are you talking about? You grounded people. Yeah. But that's anyways, that's mine.

00:18:37.720 I can see our host is completely frustrated as are these two members of parliament frustrated,

00:18:45.160 as are millions of Canadians. It is time for change. It is time for an open, honest, transparent,

00:18:55.000 accountable government led by our leader, Pierre Paulyev. And when government is not having their

00:19:00.200 number one priority is to maximize their citizens' freedoms, we have a problem. And we definitely have

00:19:04.920 a problem with Justin Trudeau. Indeed we do. We're pretty much out of time. You know, you get the last word.

00:19:08.920 Glenn Muntz, you look like you're ready to say something. Well, you know, as you gentlemen were talking

00:19:14.360 previously, I couldn't help but be troubled by the division that has been sown with this government

00:19:22.120 and with this prime minister. Rather than uniting us, you know, when we, you know, just around Canada Day,

00:19:30.360 we have to recognize we do live in a good country. There is hope for us. There is hope for this country.

00:19:36.040 Canadians are losing hope. I mean, every week I get phone calls from people who say,

00:19:41.720 you know, I'm losing hope. Like, what are you guys doing? What can we do? And the reality is,

00:19:47.400 you know what, a change of focus of a government, a change of priority of a government where we govern

00:19:53.480 for the people, not of the people, I think that'll make a big difference. And again, a change of ideology

00:19:59.640 that it's about improving people's lives and in this country. And that's, I mean, it's great to be

00:20:06.440 back in the riding and to have the opportunities to share that hope message of hope with Canadians.

00:20:14.440 Again, this government will go, the current one, and it will be replaced by a government who actually

00:20:19.960 takes the governing of this country seriously. To speak to normal people outside the Ottawa bubble.

00:20:24.760 Justin Trudeau should take that advice. My final words, it's time to flush the rot

00:20:29.880 of this inept government. It's time to bring back the promise that Canadians should have in the country.

00:20:37.720 And to my primary focus of being a member of Parliament for Brand for Brand is to instill

00:20:43.800 that element of trust that Canadians definitely need to have with our elected officials.

00:20:49.320 That's why you two are the dynamic duo. I got to tell you, Larry Brock and Glenn Mott. So Glenn's from

00:20:55.640 Medicine Hat, Karsten Warner in Alberta. Larry Brock from Brantford, Brant in Ontario. Thank you,

00:21:00.600 gentlemen, for your time. It's always a pleasure. Good wrap up of the parliamentary session.

00:21:04.120 Love having you on. We'll try to get you in the summer at some point.

00:21:06.920 Worth a final handshake.

00:21:07.800 Absolutely. Thank you very much for your time as well. We hope you enjoyed that show. Please

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - June 27, 2023

The Liberal’s agenda of division

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