The Liberal’s agenda of division
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On this week's episode of The Blueprints, Conservative MP for Halliburton-Caworth-Brooks, Larry Brock and his partner, Glenn Motts, wrap up the session of Parliament and give their thoughts on the government's failure to deliver on its promises.
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Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your
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host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton Caworthalikes Brock with new content
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for you every single Tuesday, 1.30pm Eastern Time, even throughout the summer. So we ask that you
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out there. Parliament is out. It adjourned last week with a bit of a bang. And to talk about
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that and much, much more, who else would we have on the show this week? But the dynamic
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duo of Glenn Motts and Larry Brock. So we have Medicine, Pat, Cartston-Warner and Bradford
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Brandt. Thank you, gentlemen, once again. It's great to be here. Always a pleasure. I have
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one quick question. When are we going to rename the show The Schmael, Brock and Motts Podcast?
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We should. We really should. We'll have to get, maybe that's a summer project. I think
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so. Yeah, maybe that's a summer, not a bad idea. But always a pleasure. Always a pleasure
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to be on your show. I thought, who else should we have on to wrap up this session of Parliament
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and get your thoughts on it? What grade do you give it? If you give it this session of
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Parliament, if you give it anything more than an F, I think you can leave it out. No, but
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seriously, what do you get, what do you, how do you think it went? Man, it's obviously an
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F, a big fat F. And, but where do you start to support that, justify it? There's so many,
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there's so many different aspects of the failures of this government. You know, where you can
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start on C21, you can start on the Emergencies Act, you can, you can deal with Bernardo transfer,
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you can deal with, uh, so many other things, the, the foreign, you know, foreign, uh, interference,
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soft on crime, bail reform, like on and on and on and all the scandals. It's like,
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wow, I'm surprised the, uh, the, the NDP hasn't dropped on like a hot potato yet.
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Eight years of abject failure right across the board. And I think for, from my perspective,
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Jamie, as a, as a first time, uh, politician was, I was hoping to see politics done differently.
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I was hoping to see that promises made would be promises kept. I was hoping to see that there
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would be some truth in what Justin Trudeau promised Canadians by looking Canadians right
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in the eye, as I am right now looking into this camera, where he promised to have the
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most revolutionary type of government this country has ever seen. Hallmarks of transparency,
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accountability, and it's just been nothing, as my colleague has indicated, nothing but complete
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In the last four years, I'm kind of happy he hasn't kept his promises, because I think we
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would have been way worse shape than we are right now. We have crime that's up, violent
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crimes up, repeat offenders on the, we have, we have, we have teenagers being stabbed in
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the subway system, in Toronto and elsewhere, we have stabbings on the rise. Um, what do you,
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are you hearing this in your constituency? Is...
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The frustration that, uh, that I hear, not only in, in my riding, and other ridings, and
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other colleagues, uh, is that, um, there is, there seems to be no support any longer for
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law enforcement, um, and that comes from the government level. So, the fact that they introduced
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legislation over the years, that went soft on crime, that, uh, ignores victims. You fought
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your entire career, like I did, for the victims of these crimes. And, and to, to, um, to ensure
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that, you know, we focus on a criminal, um, that, you know, those, you know, the system
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is set up to, to ensure that those who are responsible are dealt with according to law. But when things
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are watered down to the, to, to, to the point where the, the law enforcement people who actually,
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um, you know, arrest people, investigate, find who, who's responsible, charge them, when that
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happens, and they are out within hours, in many circumstances, to re-offend again, that
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makes you wonder why. Makes you wonder, you know, like, what's the purpose of this? So, so,
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the criminals are no longer afraid of the justice system, because, um, this government has basically,
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I'll go one step further, and I think I mentioned this at least once, if not
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twice on your program, Jamie, criminals love this liberal government. I saw that as a crown
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prosecutor. I saw the confidence of these criminals coming in knowing full well, that it didn't
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matter what I had to say, that didn't matter what type of opposition I put up, either at
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the bail stage, or at the trial stage, that even if, even if they were convicted, because
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of the soft on crime agenda this government has introduced since 2015, it's really put
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shackles on the ability of our judges to do the right thing. It clearly favors the rights
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of the criminals over the rights of the communities and the victims.
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Do you also think there might be another step to this as well? The Liberals, I find, like to
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use a crisis for an opportunity, right? Like crime is up, violent crime is up on their behalf,
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because of the actions they took and various, various pieces of legislation, but then to implement
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their agenda, they can say, well, violent crime is up, then we have to confiscate as many firearms
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We had the horrific mass shooting and killing in Nova Scotia. And they use that travesty to then
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introduce their May of 2020 Order and Council firearm ban. You know, hundreds of firearms that,
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you know, as the evidence is coming out, like then interfering in the actual investigation through
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their commissioner to say, you know, they want information to try and support their position.
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It turns out that, you know, the accused in this matter was not a licensed firearm owner.
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He obtained his firearms illegally. And no matter what legislation they would have introduced,
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it wouldn't have prevented this from happening, unfortunately. So, yeah, they've used every
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possible means to try and dupe an otherwise unknowing public into believing that they're
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actually doing something for public safety. The stats say otherwise.
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And the crisis, to your point, is the significant number of killings of police officers across this
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It seemed that the death of Officer Priscilla, the OPP officer, near my riding, just outside of
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my riding in southwestern Ontario, became a catalyst for reforms, a catalyst for change, a catalyst for
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advocacy, police associations, police chiefs, premiers of provinces and territories. And yet,
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there was still pushback by Minister Lamedi, still pushback in the belief, trying to propagate this
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belief that our justice system was still working, that our bail system was still working. He was still
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tagging those lines at our justice committee. Nothing to see here. The system is adequate.
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Only until this government received the extreme backlash that they did from coast to coast to
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coast, that they introduced what they deemed to be a bail reform bill. Bill C-48 has yet to be debated
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at second reading in the House, yet to be studied at committee. It is a dangerously flawed piece of
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legislation. It is not a reform bill. And if we're looking for future content throughout the summer, I would love
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an opportunity, Jamie, to come back and explain to our audience the ABCs of what this bill is and the ABCs of
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our bail system in Canada. Explaining it in plain language so that everybody can understand and realize
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that this is just a talking piece, a piece of propaganda to make the government look as if they're
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doing something to address community safety. And even beyond that, but yes, it's your show,
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fellas. I think we're renaming it. I think we talked about that. But even aside from the public
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safety, they're kind of the one step further. We always had a suspicion that liberals wanted to
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have more government control. They would rather more spending, more government-decided industry
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leading the way, if you will, rather than private industry selling to the marketplace, right? We have big
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corporations selling to government, them picking winners and losers in the marketplace. You saw
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this during the pandemic. 40% of what they decide to print and borrow had nothing to do with COVID,
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but was couched in the language of COVID, right? So you saw their, I think, true agenda,
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which is massive amounts of spending, buying votes. And on the other side, you saw what happened
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when the protests were in Ottawa. I think that also showed the other side that they have no
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problem using the maximum force of government to quell any dissent to their agenda. Couple that
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with C11, the censorship bill, and many others. I think this kind of, for all to see, they're true
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colors. Well, you know what? If you disagree with me, say that. No, I don't. I think I'll even take it
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the Larry Brock step further. And that is to suggest that, that is to suggest that many people,
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many of the people that write into my office, and I'm sure many MPs offices, suggest that this is a
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very socialist agenda. When government, when government tells the Canadians, you know what,
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we have a better idea. We will look after you. Canadians need to realize that government can't
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give you anything. They haven't taken from you first. Right? We all know that saying, and it's so
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true. But this government has lost their way. They have lost the moral authority to lead this
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country. To govern. To govern, absolutely. And they are, I mean, any success of government following
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who has a different agenda, has a different, you know, getting Canada back, which would be what our
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conservative position certainly is, it's going to take years and years and years to undo, you know,
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generation, to undo the damage that was done in eight short years. It's unbelievable. I have, you know,
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I've been around longer than both of you gentlemen, as far as age. I know you wouldn't know it, but...
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Yes. But the radical thought, and then the language that's being used, as you indicated earlier,
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to try and convince Canadians that they're actually being helped by a government who's doing nothing
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but destroying our country. The government's causing the problem, then trying to swoop in with
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a so-called solution. And of course... So it's a recipe for danger. Yes. It is creating such fear in
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this country that I'm having constituents, and I have, as you know, Jamie, a very large social media
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following. And I've got people from all corners of this country, really debating whether or not
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they want to continue to live in this country. Right. And we shouldn't be having this discussion
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in the 21st century. We should be leading the world in terms of, and we still have this reputation that
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that immigrants want to settle here. But they settle here, and they often say, I'm better off going
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back to my home country. Right. That was not the promise that we made to immigrants around the
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world. This country was built on immigration. And God knows we still need immigration to fill a number
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of positions that are not being met in this country. But the danger of this government rhetoric,
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taking away our fundamental freedoms, taking away our constitutional rights,
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the whole aftermath of the convoy movement and the actions taken by this government with an
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expectation that... And Glenn and I, as you know, are both on the joint parliamentary committee to study
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the invocation of the Emergencies Act. And we had the Rulo Commission. But there's still one piece of a
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crucial piece of evidence that's still outstanding out there. And that is, by what legal authority
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did you exercise the right to invoke this particular act? And to Justice Rulo, when he asked Justice
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Lamedi that same question, Justice Lamedi said, well, I can't deliver that. And Justice Rulo's comments are,
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well, I guess we're going to have to trust you. Canadians do not trust this government. And that is
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a really sad statement for a MP to be making at this point. But it's true. But it is true. I mean,
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you look, I read recently, you never trust the person or the government or whatever to solve a
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problem that they themselves created. That's exactly what Canadians need to realize. You can't trust the
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Liberal government to solve the problems they've created themselves. We need a full-scale change of
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government. And I have probably never experienced the erosion of public trust in institutions like
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government, like law enforcement over the last decade, eight, ten years, eight years for sure.
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And I'm hearing it, I'm hearing it on the justice side. So many people, I say predominantly the number
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of my supporters saying, Larry, we do not have a justice system. We have a legal system, a legal
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system that is being dictated by this Liberal government to advance their interests. And those
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interests are protecting the rights of the accused. Well, this is how I think the left continues to win
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elections, not just in Canada, but around the world as well. It keeps that division going. It keeps the
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fact that you might be maybe against your neighbor for whatever reason, whatever the government tells you
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the reason is. And then you're looking at them rather than looking at the government and noticing, well, I'm sure many
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people have noticed that the price of groceries are through the roof, the cost of energy is through the roof.
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But if you're, you're more or less looking somewhere else because the government is pointing out that your
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neighbors are awful, evil human beings, you're not actually focused on how horrible the government has managed
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the situation or created in the first place. Correct. It's not just demonizing Canadians. It's demonizing
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duly elected representatives from across this country that constitute the opposition. How dare we
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criticize the government for these wonderful solutions and wonderful objectives that they're trying to
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achieve. The number one role of the opposition is to hold this government to account. And quite often
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that requires, in my opinion, a prosecutorial approach. And God knows we've had so many scandals
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over the last eight years. There's an abundant amount of material that we can prosecute on. But it's also
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important that we give Canadians hope and we show Canadians that we are indeed a sophisticated opposition
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that we are ready to govern in the next, following the next election. Hopefully soon. And ready to
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bring out truth. Right. That's one thing that's been hidden in this particular government, the liberal
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government, is truth is a moving scale and on many, many fronts. And I am so looking forward to a time
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when we have a Poliev conservative government in the next election that will rid the rot.
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And nothing to see here. If we don't talk about it, then nothing's happening. If we don't get caught,
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then it didn't happen. Like, people are expecting a government to be accountable to them who elected them.
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What we don't want is a prime minister who is caught in a crisis, where clearly there's been a breakdown
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of accountability, to look Canadians in the face and say that this is a learning moment. Yeah. For all of us.
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For all of us. Well, I didn't create this problem. We didn't create the mess. That's a learning opportunity
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for you. And it really, it really begs the question. Happens once, I can understand. Maybe twice,
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I can understand it. When you have a series of significant senior ministers who, for whatever
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reason, somehow are not funneled the information that impacts this nation on a myriad of issues
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involving a number of ministers, it really begs the question, what really is contained in these mandate
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letters that this prime minister delivered? Is it, if there's a crisis, you want to insulate your
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self so that you can tell Canadians, I wasn't aware of it. Someone else was, someone else didn't
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deliver the message. Okay. That's not accountability. That is not transparency. The latest being Minister
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Mendocino. Some nameless, faceless person. Somewhere out there.
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It stops with him. He is the head of that Ministry of Public Safety. If he can't do the right thing and
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resign, he has completely lost the trust. He lost the trust of this house, he's lost the trust of Canadians.
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My most laughable part of this whole session, I know everyone's different, we talked about our
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favorites and I don't necessarily have that in all seriousness, but was when Justin Trudeau was at a
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panel at Ottawa University and basically saying, well, I didn't tell anyone to get vaccinated. I,
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I didn't tell anyone that there'd be consequences. Like what kind of revisionist history are we talking
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about now? Selective memory. That is unbelievable. And nobody on that stage challenged him. No, no.
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Nobody said, why would you challenge the prime minister? Yeah. Right. And, and the crowd just, I don't,
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I can't remember what conference he was at or what he was speaking at. I know there's an Ottawa University
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background, but nobody said, I think you got that wrong. And nobody in the media followed up too and
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said, what are you talking about? You grounded people. Yeah. But that's anyways, that's mine.
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I can see our host is completely frustrated as are these two members of parliament frustrated,
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as are millions of Canadians. It is time for change. It is time for an open, honest, transparent,
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accountable government led by our leader, Pierre Paulyev. And when government is not having their
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number one priority is to maximize their citizens' freedoms, we have a problem. And we definitely have
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a problem with Justin Trudeau. Indeed we do. We're pretty much out of time. You know, you get the last word.
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Glenn Muntz, you look like you're ready to say something. Well, you know, as you gentlemen were talking
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previously, I couldn't help but be troubled by the division that has been sown with this government
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and with this prime minister. Rather than uniting us, you know, when we, you know, just around Canada Day,
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we have to recognize we do live in a good country. There is hope for us. There is hope for this country.
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Canadians are losing hope. I mean, every week I get phone calls from people who say,
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you know, I'm losing hope. Like, what are you guys doing? What can we do? And the reality is,
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you know what, a change of focus of a government, a change of priority of a government where we govern
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for the people, not of the people, I think that'll make a big difference. And again, a change of ideology
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that it's about improving people's lives and in this country. And that's, I mean, it's great to be
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back in the riding and to have the opportunities to share that hope message of hope with Canadians.
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Again, this government will go, the current one, and it will be replaced by a government who actually
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takes the governing of this country seriously. To speak to normal people outside the Ottawa bubble.
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Justin Trudeau should take that advice. My final words, it's time to flush the rot
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of this inept government. It's time to bring back the promise that Canadians should have in the country.
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And to my primary focus of being a member of Parliament for Brand for Brand is to instill
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that element of trust that Canadians definitely need to have with our elected officials.
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That's why you two are the dynamic duo. I got to tell you, Larry Brock and Glenn Mott. So Glenn's from
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Medicine Hat, Karsten Warner in Alberta. Larry Brock from Brantford, Brant in Ontario. Thank you,
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gentlemen, for your time. It's always a pleasure. Good wrap up of the parliamentary session.
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Love having you on. We'll try to get you in the summer at some point.
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