The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - June 30, 2021


The Liberals are Taking the Speaker to Court.


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

Words per Minute

173.04404

Word Count

3,339

Sentence Count

208

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

The government is suing the Speaker of the House of Commons to keep documents related to the firing of two scientists at the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg, Canada, and their connections to the Chinese Communist Party of Canada. We have never seen anything like this in our history.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your
00:00:10.860 host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton. For the legs, Brock, we do appreciate
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00:00:44.320 ideas that you might not be hearing in the mainstream media. And with that content, we have
00:00:49.520 the host of The French Blueprint. He's also the House Leader and the Member of Parliament for
00:00:53.720 Louis-Saint-Laurent in the beautiful province of Quebec. We welcome Gerard Dentel. Thank you very
00:00:58.200 much for coming on. Oh, thank you so much, Jamie, for the invitation. I deeply appreciate that.
00:01:03.300 Well, we have some pretty startling content today, and it really is a first for Canadian history,
00:01:11.360 I think, in at least the recent memory, at least. We have the federal government suing the Speaker
00:01:18.020 of the House to keep documents related to the firing of two scientists at the Winnipeg High Security
00:01:24.680 Microbiology Lab and their content on and their connections with the potential Communist Party
00:01:31.380 of China. And this is something that the House voted on. The majority in the duly elected House of
00:01:38.980 Commons voted to see these documents, and the government continues to obstruct. Tell us a bit about that.
00:01:44.500 Well, this is totally incredible. And when we got news of that on the first site, my talk was,
00:01:50.660 well, this is crazy. This is not possible. I think that maybe I've not read it correctly. And so I have
00:01:55.520 to review everything. And I double check and I even triple check. And yes, it's true. Believe it or not,
00:02:01.960 the Canadian government is suing the House of Commons of Canada. We have never seen that in our history.
00:02:08.380 Looking people who are elected being sued by their own government about the fact that we want to tell,
00:02:16.180 to have the truth about something that is very mysterious and very concerning for the national
00:02:22.100 safety of Canada. And so this is why we are very stunned to see the Canadian government suing the
00:02:28.980 House of Commons, the Speaker of the House, Anthony Rota. But on behalf of him, all of us,
00:02:34.600 the 338 members of the House of Commons are suing among them. Well, yes, the Liberals,
00:02:43.360 the Cabinet Minister. So this is totally crazy. The Prime Minister and his minister are members of the
00:02:49.240 House of Commons, but the Prime Minister and his minister are suing exactly themselves and all the
00:02:54.940 other and all of us. So this is totally unacceptable. This is a threat to democracy, to parliamentarian,
00:03:01.560 and I've never seen that in my life. And I would say, you know, like you, I've been a journalist. I
00:03:07.960 follow the political scene for many years, and I can't believe what we are looking right now. What
00:03:13.460 you are seeing right now? A government suing the House of Commons to do not produce document about
00:03:21.040 public document who are very concerning Canadians.
00:03:24.320 You brought up something very important, and I think it's good to make this distinction. Because
00:03:29.960 we are in a parliamentary democracy, even members of the Cabinet, so the Cabinet is the government,
00:03:35.220 they are members of Parliament as well. And the Speaker is kind of the referee is the House of
00:03:41.440 Commons, and the government answers to the legislative branch. Now, again, as Gerard, you just pointed out,
00:03:47.760 the government is suing the legislature, or not suing, is taking the legislative branch to court. The Speaker is a
00:03:55.080 Liberal, and the House voted with all opposition parties in favour to see those documents and what they
00:04:02.740 contain. And instead, we got a bunch of redacted documents, and they refused to actually produce it despite
00:04:08.480 the attempts over and over again by the duly elected members of that chamber to see what's inside.
00:04:16.120 Well, and you know, what is troubling is that we are all, as Canadians, we are all concerned about things
00:04:22.380 that happen at the National Microbiology Laboratory of Winnipeg. And so let me remind everybody what
00:04:28.720 happened, because there is four different events that are very concerning. First of all, this laboratory
00:04:34.160 gives the highest rank of security for a searcher who is directly linked with the Army of China.
00:04:42.860 First concern. Second one, there is two high-profile searchers in this laboratory who had the highest
00:04:50.040 clear security access to everything, and both of them left, were fired, and were fired, and when they
00:05:01.200 left the building, they were escorted by the RCMP. Everybody has seen someone losing a job, but I've never
00:05:07.020 seen someone losing a job with the escort of the RCMP. So there is second concern about that. This laboratory
00:05:14.620 sent two virus to the Wuhan laboratory in China, third event. And the fourth one is that when everything
00:05:23.020 was known, two high-profile administrators of this laboratory were left their job. So one, two, three, four. Four big
00:05:34.020 concern, and Canadians deserve answer. So this is why in the committee, we asked twice to table documents.
00:05:43.060 And let me be clear with that, Jamie, because this is very important. We don't want to have access to
00:05:46.960 everything about the document. We're just asking to follow the procedure in that specific case. It's not
00:05:53.040 the first time. It will not be the last time. It happened for the last 150 years. It's that those documents
00:05:58.300 are table to the clerk's office. The clerk, with some people who know what they're talking about,
00:06:04.220 will reread that. And if there is something to hide for national security, they will hide it. That's the
00:06:10.140 procedure we just wanted to do, as we are doing for many years. So we asked once in the committee,
00:06:17.180 with the support of the Bloc Québécois, the NDP, and the Green. So it's quite important to know that we are the leader
00:06:22.700 of that, but all the other opposition parties support us. We asked once in the, in the, in the
00:06:28.620 April, in the committee, the government refused. We asked a second time in the committee, the
00:06:33.580 government refused. We had a vote. We spent a full day of debate in the House of Commons. We had a vote
00:06:39.420 on that, and the government refused to table those documents. One, two, three. Then there is a fourth
00:06:45.980 time. When I left, I raised a privilege, a question of privilege. As a parliamentarian, I thought that
00:06:52.540 that's three, three times. And that's a clear vote in the House of Commons of all the members who decided
00:06:57.500 by a majority to ask, to, to, to, to table those documents. Well, I, I, I raised a question of
00:07:04.220 privilege because my privilege as parliamentarian were abstract. And the fourth time, what we got is
00:07:10.540 something that's very special, but unfortunately not enough. First of all, the director of this, the
00:07:17.980 Health Agency of Canada went to the, went to the House of Commons, received a blame because it was
00:07:23.660 not, it didn't deliver what we were asking for, but he had to table those documents and he refused. So
00:07:30.620 one, two, three, four. Four times the government refused to address correctly order of the House. So this
00:07:39.820 is why now we are looking at this government knocking at the door of the federal court to say,
00:07:47.260 shut down, cover up. We don't know everything. We don't want to know everything about that. This is
00:07:52.540 totally unacceptable. You're looking at the, let me talk about constitutional. Maybe I will be a little
00:07:58.220 bit too, too, to, to, to, to detail, but it's quite important. You have the executive branch knocking at
00:08:04.540 the door of the judiciary branch to shut down the legislative branch. Only Justin Trudeau can do
00:08:11.260 that. Only Justin Trudeau can do that. This is totally unacceptable. This is a breach to Canadian
00:08:16.380 democracy. This is a breach to Canadian parliamentary tradition. And this is a breach to the country that
00:08:22.460 we are and we love freedom country. Well, according to the national post,
00:08:27.260 you mentioned it, it's the, the sharing of the information between the Wuhan lab in, in China,
00:08:31.980 which was, uh, I think of a fairly decent concern. And also what the national post reported as well,
00:08:39.260 talking about one of the doctors that was escorted out by the, the RCMP or that doctor is, uh, or has
00:08:46.220 filed for a couple of patents on some pretty, pretty dangerous diseases, one being Ebola and
00:08:51.100 the other Marburg viruses. And, uh, that's, that's a couple of years ago in 2017 and 19. So I think it's
00:08:57.980 very important that we get the answers to these questions, but what could possibly be in these
00:09:02.540 documents? I, I, obviously we, we don't know, but it must be bad if the government is going to this
00:09:09.180 length to cover this up. We all know that this is one of the trademark of this liberal government
00:09:15.740 is cover up. They tried to cover up the weed charity scandal. They, they tried to cover up
00:09:20.700 the Abakan strip and the vacancy of the prime minister. Each and every time there is an ethnic
00:09:26.300 issue, it's the cover up strategy. Remember a year ago, almost a year ago, the government was ready to
00:09:31.980 call an election to be sure that the parliamentary committee will not be created to scrutinize what he
00:09:37.740 has done in the weed charity scandal. So this is a trademark of Justin Trudeau, cover up, cover up,
00:09:43.420 cover up, no ethic at all. So this is why under Aaron O'Toole's leadership as the conservative,
00:09:49.260 we will, when we will be in office, we will be sure to have a bill, strong, very strong law to be
00:09:56.380 sure to address those epic issue. But let me remind you also, when you talk about the national post,
00:10:02.380 uh, relating the fact that one of the researcher who was escorted by the RCMP, her name is on patent
00:10:09.980 on some discovery and some invention in China. Technically speaking, she can't do that, but she
00:10:15.580 had to inform and to get the support of the Canadian government if she's doing something
00:10:21.500 related to her work here in the country and with a foreign country. It could be America, it could be
00:10:27.580 France, it could be Great Britain, it could be China, but at least you have to inform and to get
00:10:33.100 the green light from the Canadian government. So I raised in the House of Commons last week a question
00:10:38.700 directly to the Prime Minister. I said, so did you give her the green light for that? The answer of
00:10:44.140 the Prime Minister was absolutely, you know, crazy. He said, well, I learned that this morning reading
00:10:47.980 my newspaper, so I asked for your inquiry on that. Well, finally he's opening the eyes, but exactly at the
00:10:53.100 same time, when he's asking, when he's doing something correct, he's on the other side, on the back of
00:10:59.020 everybody, he's suing the parliament. So this guy has no ethic at all. This guy is, there is one
00:11:07.660 one ethic for him, and one thing for the rest of us. There is a link, as you know, with the Liberal
00:11:13.500 List, where they want to hire or to name some judge and everything. They have to look at the Liberal
00:11:18.780 List, and there is the rest of us Canadians. This is the pattern of this Prime Minister, but when we talk about
00:11:25.180 national security, and this is why we are asking those tough questions. We all know and we all recognize it's not an easy
00:11:31.500 task to raise those questions. But because we care, us, we deeply care about national security,
00:11:38.780 and I can assure Canadians and all the Conservatives who are listening to us, you can count on us to take
00:11:43.820 the government for account at each and every time. Our national security will be in trouble, and that's
00:11:49.820 exactly the case right now. Now, Gerard, you're a former journalist. After all these scandals that the
00:11:56.060 Prime Minister has had, my goodness, you listed off a few already, not to mention the We Charity,
00:12:01.260 and a whole bunch of others. Where is the media outrage on this? Like, seriously. I know you have
00:12:11.020 to shake their head on it. It's true. We have, as you mentioned, the fact that we have not only a couple
00:12:18.860 of scientists being escorted by the RCMP under suspicious circumstances from the top secret
00:12:25.980 lab in Winnipeg. We also have the fact that the government is suing, or not suing, taking the
00:12:32.460 legislative branch to court, the Speaker of the House of Commons, to the judicial branch to stop
00:12:37.420 the documents surrounding those firings, those escorting of scientists out of the building.
00:12:43.580 The media lost its mind to a $16 glass of orange juice. What the heck is going on?
00:12:54.940 Okay, let me, first of all, yes, I'm a former journalist, like you. I've been a journalist for
00:13:01.500 20 years, like some other colleagues among us, like John Barlow, like Dick Bertold, and others too.
00:13:10.060 Kellen Walk was a journalist too, and some people are saying, well, all the conservative journalists
00:13:15.420 are now in the House of Commons, so this is why. Well, let me be clear. First of all, there is, yes,
00:13:20.460 some report from CBC, National Post, Globe and Mail. Those are serious media, so they cannot say that this
00:13:26.860 is some conservative stuff or whatever. This has been done. In the French media, I had one huge interview
00:13:34.300 of 10 minutes on the LCN, which is linked to the TVA network, so I've done that. But unfortunately,
00:13:40.780 I have to recognize, like you, that this is not a huge coverage. And my simple question is that,
00:13:48.060 could you imagine Stephen Harper suing the House of Commons? Just imagine that. Could you believe that
00:13:57.500 a civil servant will receive a blame from the House of Commons under the leadership of the
00:14:03.020 prime ministership of Stephen Harper? This is my simple question that I'm asking to some former
00:14:08.940 colleague? I said, could you imagine Stephen Harper doing that? What will be your coverage of that?
00:14:15.180 I will let them express their decision. I had yesterday a press conference with my colleague
00:14:19.980 from Quebec City, and unfortunately, they didn't raise the issue. Well, you know, if we count on the
00:14:26.620 journalists to do, okay, yes, we are good, we are correct, that's not that. We are here, Jimmy, you
00:14:32.380 and me and all of our colleagues are here for Canadians. We are here to protect Canadians' freedom. We are here
00:14:38.700 to protect national security of Canada. And I can assure you, those who are listening to us, that as long
00:14:44.460 as we are, we'll be there, we will fight for you, whatever the others are doing or not doing. We are
00:14:50.060 there for Canadians, and we will still remain to Canadians to focus on the Canadians' interests,
00:14:56.300 first and foremost. And we're the only ones that will repeal Bill C-10, the internet censorship bill,
00:15:02.380 the one that the government decides what you like, what you want to see, what you get to see, and suppresses
00:15:07.820 the content that they don't agree with. And we're the only one that will repeal that bill, if it passes
00:15:13.980 the Senate. Well, we will see. I will let the colleagues from the Senate doing their job. And
00:15:19.500 as you know, the Senate people are not telling us what to do, so I will not tell the Senate colleagues
00:15:24.700 to do whatever they want. They have their autonomy on that. But I can assure you that, as Erin O'Toole,
00:15:31.180 our leader said, the first, one of the first moves that we will do in the first 100 days of the government
00:15:37.580 of Erin O'Toole will be to repeal the C-10 and be sure to recall the famous article 4.1. And this is
00:15:46.940 totally crazy, because the first draft of the C-10 include the article 4.1, who has a form of
00:15:54.060 protecting the freedom of speech, which was correct. And then on a Friday afternoon, the minister decided to
00:16:01.420 retreat it without any announcement. And I know you have been a journalist, you know, when we do something on
00:16:06.220 the Friday afternoon, because we don't want to have a lot of coverage of tasks. But, well, we were
00:16:12.460 there for that. So we raised this issue. And what is crazy also is that in Quebec, the Bloc Québécois
00:16:18.700 asked three times to recall this article, the bill, article 4.1, who has some protection for freedom of
00:16:26.940 speech. And when us, Alain Reyes and Rachel, the order made the commitment to table it, to table the
00:16:35.980 amendment in the committee, all the opposition parties, the Bloc Québécois and the Liberals and the NDP
00:16:43.340 refused to re-put in the bill, the article written by the government itself, which was a protection,
00:16:52.300 a part of protection of the freedom of speech. They retreat it, we have to, we table a motion to
00:16:58.540 to let it back, and they refuse. That's only Justin Trudeau can do that. Only Justin Trudeau's
00:17:03.580 Liberals can do that.
00:17:04.780 Well, Gerard, we are pretty much out of time. And I always give the guests the final word,
00:17:09.420 but I think you covered pretty much everything we wanted to talk about. I have a question for you.
00:17:14.140 Where are you doing this show from? It doesn't look like your Ottawa office, for sure. It doesn't
00:17:20.140 look like your constituency office. Where are you?
00:17:23.260 And as I'm not a hunter, I'm not Bill Calkins, I would say, son of Quebec. But I am in my writing,
00:17:31.100 Louis Saint Laurent's writing, which is in the neighbour of Quebec City, the suburb of Quebec City.
00:17:39.180 And in this writing, I have Wendake. Wendake is the first nation that live here for all the time,
00:17:47.020 but are established here for the last 350 years, here in Wendake. And there is a nice, very hotel
00:17:53.980 and museum. And there is an event this morning in my writing at this place. So this is why I
00:18:00.620 am very pleased to welcome you in Wendake, which is a First Nation territory, and in part of the
00:18:08.060 Louis Saint Laurent writing, which is, as you will recognize, the best writing in Canada.
00:18:13.020 I think there might be 337 others that might disagree with you on that. But I appreciate
00:18:19.980 the time. The French host of the Blueprint, the French language host of the Blueprint. I hope I
00:18:24.940 did the English language version justice and lived up to your reputation, Gerard. Thank you very much.
00:18:29.980 You're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you so much, Jimmy. And thank you, everybody.
00:18:33.100 Thank you. Gerard Dettel, the House Leader for the Opposition, Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition,
00:18:37.500 and also the Member of Parliament for Louis Saint Laurent. We thank you so much for joining us. As I said,
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