The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - The Made-in-Canada crime wave is flooding our streets.

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00:00:35.200 crime is on the rise just like inflation in canada to talk about this and much much more we have brad

00:00:40.560 radicopp the member of parliament for saskatoon west thanks for taking the time great to be here jim

00:00:45.280 all right we got some bad news coming out of your riding across the country as well uh violent crime

00:00:50.560 is just out of control in your area yeah we're seeing great increases in crime across the board

00:00:56.240 in in saskatoon uh of particular concern to us are the homicides last year there were 12

00:01:02.640 in total and uh and this year we're on track to exceed that uh we're almost at 12 now and and moving

00:01:10.640 forward so it's it's a very big concern particularly in the riding of saskatoon west which i represent

00:01:16.000 a lot of the crime seems to be centered in in that area of town and so it's a very big concern for the

00:01:20.720 residents that i represent so some stats we have here so since 2015 across canada uh violent crime

00:01:27.280 is up 39 murders are up 43 this is just staggering this is incredible that means there are third you

00:01:36.240 know if you're talking about uh murders or violent crime there's that many more victims too exactly

00:01:41.520 yeah and i mean this is all since trudeau's been in power yeah you know and and there are so many

00:01:45.440 things that have been done by this trudeau liberal government that have caused these things to happen and

00:01:51.200 this is something that needs to be corrected because we're going in a very bad direction

00:01:54.560 right now we need to fix this so why how we've got here what happened well you look back at some

00:01:58.880 of the legislation that's been brought in you know c5 is where i think a lot of this started and c5 is

00:02:03.920 where we're uh so go back to stephen harper there were a lot of mandatory minimum sentences so you do

00:02:09.200 a crime you would be faced with a one-year penalty or two years in jail it was a mandatory thing

00:02:14.640 what c5 did was get rid of that in many cases and and the list is staggering like extortion with a

00:02:20.320 firearm weapons trafficking possession of a firearm uh possession for purposes of weapons trafficking uh

00:02:26.880 traffic trafficking with drugs importing drugs all these things the mandatory minimums were were

00:02:32.720 eliminated which means that there's no penalties for some of these crimes right there's no consequences

00:02:37.760 from the criminal's perspective the other thing that c5 did was it uh it implemented house arrest

00:02:43.920 so you do a severe crime and instead of going to jail you have to go home so you can sit around and

00:02:49.840 plan your next right crime and look at the list of these things sexual assault kidnapping um assault

00:02:56.320 causing bodily harm or with a weapon assault assaulting a peace officer with a weapon um motor vehicle

00:03:02.480 theft these are the things that uh you can now get house arrest for rather than the mandatory minimums

00:03:07.440 that we had back before trudeau was here so i mean this is a big part of what's going on and you

00:03:12.640 just mentioned reducing the punishment for car theft what is going through the roof in a lot of our

00:03:18.240 major cities exactly so so just this is i think how it works so you have uh you know as you know

00:03:24.080 inflation is making it very difficult to live in canada right now food costs are high rent costs are

00:03:28.080 high so you have a youth maybe this youth is struggling to pay the bills a gang criminal

00:03:33.440 organization comes to this youth this youth and says hey could you steal a car for us

00:03:37.920 and oh i don't know if i want to do that hey but there's no penalty you won't go to jail there's no

00:03:42.080 consequences and by the way we'll give you 500 bucks or whatever to do this and don't worry about

00:03:46.720 it like and you can come back next week and do it again and so they do it they commit the crime and

00:03:50.400 guess what they they get arrested if they get caught they get arrested and released yeah and the

00:03:54.880 and the youth goes oh this is a pretty good deal i think i'll do it again and so so criminal

00:03:58.880 organizations take advantage of these relaxations and the rules that the liberals have done just

00:04:03.600 exacerbating and making the problem worse and we've even seen in toronto and many other cities

00:04:08.080 toronto specifically um people out on bail uh for various consequences but most importantly the the

00:04:16.320 violent crime that have committed murder while they are out on on jail we've even had a police officer

00:04:21.040 uh killed because somebody was out on bail for violent offenses and and they just keep going

00:04:28.000 there's no consequences here it's a revolving door exactly and even if you look into saskatoon

00:04:33.200 we've looked into the statistics back from 2020 21 and you'll find that about half of the murder

00:04:39.040 people that were charged in murder investigations had some sort of either bail or some other condition

00:04:44.480 that they were on at the time so a lot of these people who are who are out on bail or out on

00:04:49.360 conditions are re reoffending in some of the worst cases as in murder so it this is a big problem

00:04:56.000 let's uh cue up cut one this is from your area saskatoon and uh i'm sure as as our viewers and

00:05:03.280 listeners see and listen to this clip it'll it'll hit them that this is also happening in their community

00:05:09.520 as well let's play cut one in a report to be presented at the board of police commissioners

00:05:14.560 meeting thursday data shows violent crime is up 9.6 percent in 2024 most notably there have been

00:05:22.560 nine homicides so far this year six in the first quarter compared to only two the same time last year

00:05:29.200 as the city grows we are also seeing a an increase in the number of weapons on the street which

00:05:35.920 translates to more violence we're seeing an increase in drug use and individuals in crisis

00:05:43.840 more weapons on the street didn't they say banning uh making some of these firearms uh illegal or

00:05:50.080 whatever the liberals talking points are would reduce this stuff it's actually going up yeah how's

00:05:54.800 that working for you right because criminals don't care no no and they have ways of getting around and

00:05:59.600 this is the the fallacy of of what the liberals have done with firearms legislation is that it's really

00:06:04.240 penalizing the legal trained safe farmers hunters those are the ones who are being penalized and the

00:06:11.520 criminals their business is growing they're doing more and so the firearms legislation is doing nothing

00:06:16.960 it's not doing what's meant to do well the liberals know that the people obeying the law are going to

00:06:21.040 continue to follow the law right so we'll just crack down on them regardless of whether or not the

00:06:28.080 crime rate actually goes down or people are committing less violent acts it doesn't really matter

00:06:32.160 because their talking points are we're doing something right exactly and and what they're

00:06:35.840 doing is penalizing law-abiding firearms owners and they are doing nothing to stop the crime in fact

00:06:41.120 we just heard the police chief there say that violent that gun crimes are up significantly in saskatoon

00:06:46.160 so it's it's you know they're they're going in the wrong direction in so many ways well it's easy to

00:06:50.960 to put the hammer down on on law-abiding people because as just mentioned they will continue to do that

00:06:56.080 right it's a lot harder to to go after the the gangs and the criminals especially when it's it's bail

00:07:03.040 not jail and this revolving justice system we have exactly because now you're mentioning c75 which is

00:07:09.360 the other piece of legislation that the liberals layered on top of this uh besides the fact that

00:07:14.320 they got rid of mandatory minimums and implemented house arrest then they did c75 which which put the

00:07:19.280 onus on uh judges and law enforcement to to be uh to not put people in jail at all and so people get

00:07:26.000 out on bail for everything now and so this is the revolving door that so many people talk about and and

00:07:30.800 we've seen that in saskatoon and across the country where you know often it's a small number of

00:07:35.360 criminals who are who are continually uh repeating offenses and and and it's it's just it's ludicency

00:07:43.040 it really is well even the justice minister had his car stolen i think three times uh we talked about

00:07:48.720 this i i believe with you on on a previous show uh is the fact that it hasn't affected him yet his

00:07:54.960 car got stolen but i i believe it in every case it was the government's car right so it affects the

00:08:00.720 government's insurance but again that doesn't matter because it's it's not seen it's everybody watching

00:08:05.520 us that's paying for that exactly it's not him yeah it's it's not the justice minister who has to

00:08:09.600 call the insurance company or deal with the consequences of being cut off if their car keeps

00:08:13.840 getting stolen but at the same time it's pretty ironic and quite humorous that that happened

00:08:17.520 yeah it's it's it's just unbelievable that uh the the government is is not recognizing the fact that

00:08:24.960 a lot of areas it could be an urban center it could be a suburban center or a rural community it doesn't

00:08:30.960 matter where you live now this this this problem with crime is growing everywhere it is and you know

00:08:37.360 one of the knock-on effects that is i think really concerning to me is you talk to law enforcement

00:08:43.520 people today and they're actually their morale is not good because you know if you become a police

00:08:49.280 officer you're you want to make the community better safer you know you want to go get the bad guy right

00:08:54.240 and you want to put him in jail that's that's the whole purpose of why you become a police officer

00:08:57.520 for me in many cases and and what these pieces of legislation have done have taken those tools away

00:09:03.120 from police and so they are the ones i mean they see it firsthand yeah they see this person get arrested

00:09:07.840 and released and re-offend and release re-offend i mean they see it right up front and that's very

00:09:12.320 demoralizing for them because they look at this person for the third or fourth crime and they go

00:09:16.320 why even bother bringing him into the station i know he's just going to get out again and and that is

00:09:20.640 not where you want that's not the headspace you want your police officers in you want them to be

00:09:24.400 motivated to to catch the bad guy yeah absolutely absolutely especially when they see the gang

00:09:29.200 situation getting worse right then you go to let's say vancouver for instance and we have a cut here

00:09:34.880 we're going to queue up cut two uh we all have heard and i'm sure have read about the the situation

00:09:41.840 in vancouver's downtown east side where it's you know widely known that there's open drug use happening

00:09:47.680 there um the situation is is getting worse not better thousands of people have died because of

00:09:54.880 overdoses and and other uh situations uh maybe we'll play cut to and get your comments all right play cut

00:10:01.760 we hit the streets of vancouver friday to find out what was really happening

00:10:09.360 we overheard drug dealers shouting dillys the slang word for dilaudid or hydromorphone which is one of

00:10:16.400 the drugs the government has encouraged doctors to prescribe as safe supply to those suffering from

00:10:22.320 addiction in addition to sellers we had a lot of people ask us if we had dillys appearing to indicate

00:10:29.680 an open and robust aftermarket for the powerful opioid if you think back just a few years ago like

00:10:37.360 2014 not you know not that long ago this this is totally new yeah i mean it it's it's like a almost

00:10:45.280 a movie like something you wouldn't believe would be true and and yet it is in in trudeau's world it

00:10:50.320 is true and it's you know they talked about the robust market the aftermarket for uh hydromorphone which

00:10:56.320 is which is which is the government's safe supply and they're giving out these free opioid drugs to

00:11:02.880 users supposedly to help them uh you know get down or not be so committed to their drugs but what's

00:11:09.120 happening and that's what this this uh clip was telling us is they're selling those they're selling

00:11:14.400 those drugs which by the way end up in the hands of young people high school students and people who are

00:11:20.000 first-time drug users because they're considered kind of a junior drug they use the cash they get from

00:11:24.480 that to go and buy the hard drugs and and it just it makes it even worse introducing a whole new group

00:11:29.440 of people to drugs it it it opens up that circle right it brings more people into this this downward

00:11:35.840 spiral if you're a drug marketer it's a great it's a great solution if you're trying to uh you know stop

00:11:41.360 the use of drugs it's not working well so what about our plan what is the conservatives going to do had if

00:11:48.240 when we get the opportunity to govern yeah well i mean really there's two things back to the mandatory

00:11:53.680 minimums and sentencing we have to restore that we have to make sure that if you if you commit a

00:11:57.840 crime particularly a violent crime and especially if you're a repeat offender you need to be in jail

00:12:02.640 that's where you need to be you need to come off the street so that there's removing this incentive

00:12:07.040 to to continue to repeat crimes we have to we have to fix that on the other hand we do have people who

00:12:12.320 really do suffer with addictions issues and we have to make sure that we have proper treatment

00:12:15.840 centers in place for that and right now there isn't enough treatment in canada there aren't enough beds

00:12:20.720 we need to fix that we need to we need to know that if if a person needs to know that if he has

00:12:24.880 an addiction issue he has a place to go right he or she has a place to go and solve that problem and

00:12:29.520 and that's something that that we're very committed to doing i i think absolutely that's an important

00:12:34.240 piece the the the treatment issue that really doesn't get talked about a lot especially uh in liberal and

00:12:40.800 ndp circles the they never really focus in on the fact that we should be really trying to get people off

00:12:48.960 this horrible addiction and back to back to their lives well and that's where this concept of safe

00:12:54.560 supply comes from and the the bigger concept of of harm reduction and and there's there's sort of two

00:13:01.360 schools of thought there the one is the on the safe supply harm reduction side is you know give them

00:13:05.920 what they need make it safe so they're not having bad drugs give them give them those hard drugs but

00:13:11.440 but clean ones that we'll give you for free uh and then you know they won't harm themselves even though

00:13:16.320 they're still addicted to drugs you know whatever the other approach is is more of an abstinence

00:13:20.720 approach like get off the drugs and i think what's what we're seeing play out on our streets today is

00:13:26.800 not that all of harm reduction is bad because there are some there are some good pieces to harm reduction

00:13:31.040 but but we're obviously not doing it right because because as we have uh multiplied efforts the current

00:13:36.640 government has has jumped you know big time into the concept of harm reduction things have gotten worse

00:13:42.560 we've seen the numbers and so so clearly whatever it's supposed to do we're not doing it right and

00:13:47.040 we've completely forgotten about the other side of this which is the abstinence side and sometimes

00:13:51.200 that is the right solution even though it's the hard solution but it is the it's the solution that

00:13:55.200 provides the permanent results and you have a wide range of why people get addicted in the first

00:13:59.920 place right it could be over dependence on pain medication after surgery it could be a whole slew of

00:14:04.640 things but at the same time if we look at some of the stats coming out recently talking about people

00:14:11.120 losing hope in getting a home or finding a job that has a a wage that pays them the ability to live

00:14:19.280 right it it it kind of hurts people mentally and mental health crisis is up right there this this

00:14:27.840 this vision justin trudeau has for canada is actually causing misery for people exactly and and

00:14:33.760 sometimes you know you have to get back to what are the root causes of some of these things and and

00:14:37.680 it might be as simple as a job as as being able to buy groceries as being able to sleep you know in

00:14:43.760 a in your own place you know we hear stories of students especially young people who are living

00:14:47.440 five six ten people in a two-bedroom apartment because they they just have no other option and and

00:14:52.800 you you put in that kind of an environment then you throw mental health comes to play and then you

00:14:58.240 throw free drugs into that and then you throw the lack of any punishment i mean it just kind of

00:15:02.480 snowball so sometimes we have to go you know i think we have to go back to the beginning and

00:15:06.000 we have to fix our economy we have to get our economy growing so that we can uh we can have

00:15:10.880 jobs for this growth in our in our in our economic output as a country we have to we have to balance our

00:15:16.000 budget so that we can stop inflation and and and get prices where they need to be so people can afford

00:15:20.800 to feed themselves absolutely and you actually raise a good point because i think this is one of the

00:15:25.360 many stark differences between conservatives and liberals liberals and ndp-ers will start the clock now right like 0.94

00:15:31.760 we have a crisis people are or can't afford to to eat heat that kind of thing um but conservatives

00:15:39.440 will actually look back because liberal solution is another government program right that needs to

00:15:43.920 be funded somehow right right now on the credit card uh conservatives will look a few steps back

00:15:49.360 to see how we got here so we can address the issue so that the problems don't occur in the future or

00:15:55.520 stop occurring and that to me is leadership yeah and we see this so often jamie where where this

00:16:00.960 government will bring in some legislation they will not at all think of the consequences right

00:16:05.280 and so they'll bring in the legislation and then a few months later uh something will happen and

00:16:09.360 they'll go oh never thought of that maybe we should do something different right so 100 like we i think

00:16:14.640 conservatives generally are uh more bigger picture thinkers we want to get to the root causes and

00:16:20.320 actually go back and fix those issues and i think i think some of those fundamentally and even in the

00:16:25.280 problem we're having with crime and drugs fundamentally come back to some of the economic issues that's right and if we don't fix those economic issues

00:16:28.960 that's right and if we don't fix those economic issues then we we don't have a foundation upon which

00:16:33.520 to fix the other issues that are compounding from that and we look at what we pay on interest in the debt

00:16:39.520 more than transfers to the provinces for health care in a health care crisis right right just wasted money

00:16:45.040 exactly because of this liberal government right and it's something we can't control i mean the right

00:16:49.040 the interest rate tells us how much we have to pay that's not something we can say i don't want to pay

00:16:52.480 that we have to pay that yeah and it it's very tough when you're wasting was it 54 billion dollars

00:16:58.880 a year on on interest yes think of all the stuff we could be doing with that money yes it's absolutely

00:17:03.760 incredible uh brad we're pretty much out of time as you know the guests get the last word the floor is

00:17:08.400 yours well you know thank you for having me on here we absolutely have a big problem to fix here and

00:17:13.680 the good news is that conservatives have the plan and so you know in terms of crime we really have to

00:17:18.480 get back to where where criminals face consequences and and make the make the better decisions to not

00:17:23.920 commit those crimes in the first place and for those who have have suffered with addiction issues

00:17:28.640 we need to we need to have treatment options to fit to help them to to get cured of those issues

00:17:32.640 and so you know i look forward to the future i think i think we'll have a very uh robust we will

00:17:37.600 have a very robust plan and hopefully sooner rather than later we'll have an election to to start

00:17:42.160 fixing these i sure hope so hope is around the corner hopefully you bet brad radicott member of

00:17:47.120 parliament for saskatoon west appreciate your time thanks appreciate yours as well don't forget

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - July 16, 2024

The Made-in-Canada crime wave is flooding our streets.

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