The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - The NDP and Bloc Quebecois have sold out their principles and their integrity to keep the Prime Minister and his party in power.

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your

00:00:09.320 host, Jamie Schmael, Member of Parliament for Halliburton Corps at the Lakes Brock with new

00:00:12.860 content for you every single Tuesday, 1.30 p.m. Eastern Time. Don't forget to like, comment,

00:00:17.760 subscribe and share this program. On today's show, we are talking about the fact that there

00:00:22.200 will not be a fall election. That's bad news for Canadians, but the Bloc Quebecois and NDP

00:00:27.280 will be supporting the Liberals in the Conservative, non-confidence vote. But to talk about that and

00:00:32.400 much, much more, we have Dan Elvis, the one and only Member of Parliament for Central Okanagan,

00:00:37.560 Similkimi Nicolai. Thanks for coming on. Hey, Jamie. Thanks for having me. All right. That's bad news

00:00:41.400 for Canadians. No election. It looks like Yves Blanchet is going to try to get what he can out

00:00:46.240 of the Liberal government, who is really for sale at this point in time. This is going to be really

00:00:51.460 disappointing for my constituents. A few weeks ago, Jagmeet Singh basically said, I'm done with the

00:00:56.860 Liberals. He's ripping it up. He's ripping up their confidence and supply agreement and they

00:01:01.880 were going to look to throw him out at the first opportunity. Well, the first opportunity came

00:01:06.080 and this minority government is being backed by both the Bloc and the NDP. What a sad state of

00:01:13.160 affairs. It still doesn't make any sense to me on the strategy for the NDP. There was that tough talk

00:01:18.440 and I think he said it about eight times during every interview. I ripped up the agreement,

00:01:22.480 Jagmeet Singh said. I ripped up the, ripped up the tough talk. But now he is, he waited first of all

00:01:27.840 for the Bloc Québécois to make their decision on whether or not they support the non-confidence vote

00:01:32.160 and trigger an election. Then he came out with the NDP's position, but now he's lost his bargaining

00:01:37.060 power. Like what does he get in return? Well, again, if I were an NDP MP over the summer, I, you know,

00:01:44.100 I would be asking, you know, which barbecues I want to appear at and will I be on the barbecue?

00:01:48.520 Yeah. Because a lot of voters are upset at this government and guess who has been enabling this

00:01:54.380 government for the past two or so years? Essentially, it's Jagmeet Singh. He's backed

00:01:59.280 them at every opportunity. And when, when the reset button was hit here, when Singh said that he,

00:02:04.440 you know, was done with the prime minister and all that bluster, you know, we were back in a minority

00:02:09.080 situation where really an election can happen at any time. And we're hoping that there would be some

00:02:13.280 more accountability. But, you know, Pierre Paulyev has been very strong on, on, on the need for

00:02:19.820 accountability. And so that's why this non-confidence vote was really a measure of Jagmeet Singh and

00:02:25.840 whether or not he was a man of his word. Now we find out he's eating crow instead. So, you know,

00:02:30.860 my constituents want an election. I have actually sent out a weekly MP report and overwhelmingly people

00:02:38.280 said that they wanted election, even though there is a provincial election happening in British

00:02:43.180 Columbia. So I thought there would be at least a few people who say, no, let's not have that.

00:02:47.400 People are sick of what Justin Trudeau has done to this country. They're sick of the people that

00:02:52.120 have enabled him to do this to this country, essentially doubling their rents, doubling their

00:02:56.880 down payments, doubling our national debt. And so people wanted to have that carbon tax election.

00:03:04.060 And, you know, Jagmeet Singh actually said that it's time for the people, right? It's their time.

00:03:11.220 And so, okay, Jagmeet, I take you at least on that. Then let's have a carbon tax election. Let's

00:03:17.940 vote non-confidence and then let the people decide who they want to, to run this country.

00:03:25.460 It even resonated in your province where now the provincial NDP, as the election kicked off

00:03:30.720 provincially this past weekend, now they're backpedaling on the carbon tax, which they said

00:03:35.220 we had to have.

00:03:36.600 Yes. This is because if you look at Justin Trudeau and you look at David Eby, the two are two sides

00:03:42.360 of the same coin. And essentially now, because he's looking at the polls and is realizing that

00:03:49.520 Justin Trudeau is not the popular person that he thought he was, that, you know, who would have

00:03:54.280 thought that having crime disorder, drugs being done out in our neighborhoods would do that.

00:04:00.160 Well, every person that loves their community hates what this NDP, liberal government, provincially

00:04:07.500 and federally has done to this country. And so that's where when Pierre says we want to

00:04:12.000 restore the Canada we know, we knew and still love, that's where a lot of people are at because

00:04:17.860 they're through with these. And so if you look at what, you know, Trudeau has been offering

00:04:23.020 people, he's suffered a number of by-election losses. And now people are saying, well, if

00:04:28.420 you're with him, and so if the NDP is with him through thick and thin, making this country

00:04:33.940 a worse place to be, I want nothing to do with you.

00:04:36.620 Yeah. And really, it was like nine years ago, things were more affordable. Housing was at a

00:04:42.400 reasonable rate. So more and more people could afford it. Crime was coming down. Like Canada

00:04:47.620 was on a very good path. And all it took was nine years of Justin Trudeau and his buddies

00:04:53.440 like David Eby and others to start this downward spiral that we seem to find ourselves in.

00:04:58.760 Yeah. Well, and as much as we can heap a lot of blame on Justin Trudeau himself and Jagmeet

00:05:04.560 Singh for supporting him through these past few years, we should also now give Blanchet, the leader

00:05:10.360 of the Bloc Québécois, his due. Because he's voted numerous times to support the Prime Minister.

00:05:15.820 And he tries to play it two different ways where he says, oh, I'm not supporting the

00:05:20.400 Liberals. But yet, what has he done? He supported things like C-11, which have expanded the CRTC's

00:05:27.740 government control over the internet. You know, it's centralized more power in Ottawa away from

00:05:34.720 Quebec and its National Assembly. The cost that the average Québécois is paying to pay down

00:05:41.620 our national debt has doubled in the past year. So, you know, he can try and say that

00:05:48.200 he's not, he has not supported Justin Trudeau and is continuing not to. But essentially, by

00:05:52.980 choosing to vote against Pierre Polyev's motion of non-confidence in the government, he's just

00:05:59.540 showing that he's part and parcel with it. Again, it's that costly coalition backed by the NDP

00:06:05.640 and by the Bloc Québécois. The only party right now that is thinking about Canadians

00:06:10.140 is the Common Sense Conservative Party. So, but this is where, again, you know, no one's forcing

00:06:17.620 them to vote in favour of Justin Trudeau. They could easily just listen to their constituents

00:06:22.120 like mine. Yeah.

00:06:23.260 So, this is a choice they're making, Jamie.

00:06:25.560 It'll be interesting what happens in Quebec, because let's cue up cut one. Over the weekend,

00:06:29.480 the Quebec Premier, Legault, came out and basically, well, he didn't, basically, he flat

00:06:36.220 out called out the Bloc Québécois for propping up the Liberals. And it looks like the French, 0.99

00:06:42.200 the Quebec Premier wants an election. Let's have people decide. Let's play cut one.

00:06:46.880 What are you getting from the government in exchange for propping them up?

00:06:51.080 I'm propping nobody up.

00:06:54.100 Et en français aussi, là, soutenir les libéraux.

00:06:56.620 Je ne soutiens pas les libéraux. Je vote contre les conservateurs. Et je ne soutiens

00:07:01.580 toujours et exclusivement que les intérêts des Québécois.

00:07:04.800 I never support liberals. Help me, God. I go against the conservatives on a vote that

00:07:12.720 is only about Pierre Poilievre and his huge ambition for himself.

00:07:19.560 Now, the motion we're talking about, the motion we'll be voting on, is very straightforward.

00:07:23.480 Yes. Essentially, it says that the House does not have confidence in this prime minister and government.

00:07:28.440 Which they've all said. Well, Jagmeet Singh and Yves Blanchet.

00:07:32.600 But, you know, so help me God, he says. He's going to need a lot of help to, you know,

00:07:37.900 to make sense of what he's been doing. Again, between the NDP and the bloc,

00:07:41.720 they voted to support raising the carbon tax and maintaining the carbon tax, what, 20 plus times?

00:07:47.140 They've given more money to Ottawa and they've taken away from Quebecers. 0.61

00:07:51.740 As I said, whether it be their online activities, what they can and cannot see through their streaming services,

00:07:57.620 that's covered by C-11.

00:07:59.020 When you look at some of their agenda to take more money away from Quebec to put towards the federal government,

00:08:06.640 what it decides, you know, this is, again, against what most Quebecers would say the bloc is there to do.

00:08:14.220 So I think it's perfectly fair for Premier Legault to be calling the bloc out,

00:08:19.640 that essentially they are supporting a government that's way past its due date.

00:08:24.920 I agree. Let's go cut two because this is the NDP leader, Jagmeet Singh,

00:08:29.460 after his decision not to support the non-confidence vote. Play cut two.

00:08:33.340 Why didn't you say this yesterday? Why didn't you say this yesterday?

00:08:37.420 We are letting you know today.

00:08:38.580 Why didn't you say this yesterday? You've had more than 24 hours.

00:08:40.960 Why did you wait for the bloc to say this first? Other than to maybe give yourself some political cover,

00:08:45.160 why didn't you say it yesterday?

00:08:46.660 We're letting you know today.

00:08:47.740 But how can you say this when you've said Trudeau must go repeatedly? How do you square that?

00:08:52.440 In the next election, people have a choice. I stand by my words.

00:08:56.460 What words?

00:08:57.680 This is the thing. We had the tough talk that you said, tearing up the agreement

00:09:01.540 and making the case for why Trudeau shouldn't be there.

00:09:04.640 That's where they are today. Let's just call a spade a spade.

00:09:07.320 The NDP is weak, weak, weak. And as I said earlier, a summer of being at the barbecues

00:09:13.600 where people are grilling them for why they're supporting such an unpopular government.

00:09:19.560 I can see why they don't want to have an election because their numbers are so low.

00:09:23.680 So, you know, let's just call a spade a spade and say the NDP, you know,

00:09:27.920 obviously aren't ready for an election.

00:09:29.840 And all their tough talk of their leader is just that, tough talk.

00:09:33.660 So costs are up, crimes up, and the economy is on shaky ground.

00:09:37.640 And this Liberal government continues to waste more and more money.

00:09:40.620 And let's have that carbon tax election.

00:09:42.220 Let's see what Canadians have to say about that.

00:09:44.480 At the same time, this government continues, I think, is basically in free-for-all mode.

00:09:50.220 They're trying to do whatever they can to hang on to power.

00:09:53.580 And sadly, taxpayers will be at the brunt of this, the latest being a multi-billion dollar deal

00:10:00.740 for a Quebec company to provide internet for Canadians.

00:10:05.340 Now, I think we can all agree we all have rural communities that do need internet.

00:10:10.600 That is not the issue.

00:10:12.180 The issue that seems to be over and over with this government is their benchmark,

00:10:16.640 is how much money can they spend or what new programs can they create,

00:10:21.060 whether or not the outcomes are being achieved or not.

00:10:24.040 That really doesn't matter.

00:10:26.000 So while we talk about this, I just want to put up the graphic from our friend and colleague from Ontario,

00:10:30.680 Michael Baradis, the ethics critic, basically talking about this investment,

00:10:35.520 the $2.14 billion loan to the Quebec company,

00:10:39.800 and Elon Musk, who has Starlink, lots of people in my area have Starlink,

00:10:44.080 he says we can connect all Canadians for about half that amount.

00:10:47.280 That's a pretty stark savings for Canadians, but also achieving the outcome, which is connectivity.

00:10:55.800 Well, and that's the interesting part, Jamie, is what exactly is the government trying to do here?

00:11:00.940 Because when this announcement came out that they were given such a large amount

00:11:04.160 and a high interest loan to a company to basically compete head-to-head

00:11:08.940 with other low-Earth orbit internet providers like Starlink,

00:11:15.660 essentially they said it's all about connectivity.

00:11:18.020 But again, the technology is not running yet.

00:11:21.500 It's not like those satellites are out there.

00:11:25.400 And right now, I think the very common sense point that Michael is making

00:11:29.760 is that if you look at it, there's about five or six programs run by the federal government.

00:11:34.540 Some are through the CRTC.

00:11:35.840 Some are connecting with Canadians.

00:11:38.880 Some work with provinces and territories.

00:11:41.080 So instead of taking a hold of ready-to-go technology like Starlink,

00:11:45.700 instead, at a much lower price,

00:11:47.900 instead, they're giving high-interest loans to connected companies.

00:11:51.880 And let's be mindful that this company, Telesat,

00:11:54.960 is actually owned by its parent company, which is based in the United States.

00:11:58.920 And I know the Public Sector Investment Board also has invested heavily in Telesat.

00:12:07.060 And so if it's not for connecting people today, then okay, what's on the agenda?

00:12:12.360 Now, the moment there started to be some discussion about these things,

00:12:16.920 immediately the liberals switched the channel.

00:12:19.100 Oh, it's about national security.

00:12:21.280 And so it's curious that it's not the Department of National Defense that is funding this.

00:12:26.900 It is, again, still what was formerly known as industry that it's doing these loans,

00:12:32.600 which, by the way, has a history of not being transparent on loans.

00:12:36.400 And it neglected to say whether or not this is going to be a forgivable loan.

00:12:41.740 And so forgive me.

00:12:42.980 Which would be an amazing advantage in the marketplace.

00:12:45.860 Well, exactly.

00:12:47.060 And distortion.

00:12:47.440 Yeah, that's right.

00:12:48.480 So again, if it's not for national security, where the Department of National Defense isn't

00:12:53.920 heralding this, which, by the way, would have gone towards our NATO spend, which could have

00:12:58.740 made more sense.

00:12:59.600 Instead, what it does look like is people with connections are seeking out taxpayer money

00:13:06.300 to basically get things that they wouldn't be able to get at the market interest rates.

00:13:11.420 And again, this is a high interest rate loan.

00:13:15.060 It doesn't belie the two facts that, number one, they're going to the government of Canada

00:13:21.000 for it instead of the market, which should send signals.

00:13:24.240 And second of all, that particular department has a history of not telling taxpayers how much

00:13:29.940 money has been actually repaid, if at all.

00:13:31.940 Yeah, that's absolutely incredible.

00:13:33.340 And you probably saw the articles in the National Post, I believe it was, that had Carbon Tax

00:13:40.340 Carney with the head of that Quebec company getting that amazing contract.

00:13:45.860 It's just very coincidental how Carbon Tax Carney comes on the scene as the savior of all.

00:13:51.380 And all of a sudden, you know, all these contracts start getting awarded to companies that are,

00:13:56.760 you know, affiliated or indirectly or directly with Carbon Tax Carney.

00:14:01.260 Well, you see a lot of connecting the dots here where it's people that are on the inside

00:14:05.420 that have those connections are able to take taxpayer money for things that probably should

00:14:09.860 be funded on their own.

00:14:11.600 But again, I go back to what is this here to do?

00:14:15.000 Because this is something the liberals specialize in.

00:14:18.100 When Michael Barrett raised the issue of Starlink, something that exists today, works today,

00:14:24.080 and said, you know, could we roll this out in a way that, you know, Canadians be connected

00:14:29.040 at a much fewer cost for that service.

00:14:35.260 Immediately, the liberals went on the attack.

00:14:37.020 Why?

00:14:37.560 It's because they like to demonize Elon Musk as much as they can.

00:14:42.620 Now, look, I'm a conservative.

00:14:44.680 I believe that we should have technology compete with one another.

00:14:48.320 And we should be looking and saying, how does the consumer benefit from having those technologies

00:14:54.300 go head to head?

00:14:55.060 Like we've seen over the past 15 years, we've gone from, you know, fiber optics to wireless

00:15:00.480 internet to try to connect that last, those last communities, like for example, Logan Lake

00:15:05.960 and my riding, they don't have high speed internet access like many other communities, even though

00:15:11.500 the Highland Valley copper mine has access to the internet and puts in more to BC's GDP

00:15:18.080 than probably a large chunk of the lower mainland.

00:15:22.740 They don't have it.

00:15:23.820 And so I think what's going to be disappointing to my constituents in Logan Lake is rather than

00:15:29.500 saying, well, why don't we work with current providers and with this technology that Starlink

00:15:36.800 has in the mix to deal with the problem of connecting Canadians?

00:15:40.540 Instead, they see a very high interest loan, which usually says that there's more risk.

00:15:47.220 And you see that the liberals, because they can't defend it vis-a-vis on a commercial basis,

00:15:53.780 they start talking about national security.

00:15:56.180 So it's dubious.

00:15:57.640 It doesn't help people in my area.

00:15:59.240 It doesn't help people in remote and rural communities, especially up north.

00:16:04.420 And I think that that's really where we should be having the discussion right now.

00:16:07.780 Now, is this so-called investment, I put my fingers up on it, because really it does look

00:16:13.880 like it's picking winners and losers.

00:16:15.280 Yep.

00:16:16.040 It really makes losers of everyone.

00:16:17.940 And if this doesn't work, the government will do what it always does, ask for more time,

00:16:22.200 more patience, more money, and just trust them.

00:16:24.960 They'll get it right.

00:16:25.640 Yeah, and by the way, again, this particular department has been known just to write things

00:16:32.300 off and say, oh, I guess it's speculative.

00:16:35.580 And that's really where, again, the only party that is committed to seeing real connectivity

00:16:43.680 and having that clash of competition, that's what reduces prices for the taxpayer or for

00:16:51.800 consumers, is having those viable technologies square off and having it where consumers can

00:16:57.780 make their own choices.

00:16:59.420 And that's obviously something the Liberals aren't content to do.

00:17:02.380 No.

00:17:02.700 Well, competition makes everything better.

00:17:04.180 Better product, price, service, you name it.

00:17:06.300 Dan, we're pretty much out of time.

00:17:08.220 So many more things to talk about.

00:17:09.460 But we did have a good discussion.

00:17:12.020 As you know, the guests get the last word.

00:17:13.520 The floor is yours.

00:17:14.640 I just say, again, my constituents want a carbon tax election.

00:17:18.160 They know that this government is well past its due date.

00:17:22.220 So I think what we need to do is exactly what Mr. Singh said, let the people decide.

00:17:26.940 So that's one area that I will actually agree with Jagmeet Singh on.

00:17:30.640 The rest, well, I'm a conservative, so I'll stand with Pierre.

00:17:33.920 Well, shameful for even doing that.

00:17:35.480 But I do understand why.

00:17:37.200 Thank you very much, Dan Albus.

00:17:38.440 Member of Parliament for Central Okanagan, Similkimi Nikola.

00:17:42.100 Great to have him on the show.

00:17:43.320 Thank you for your time, Dan.

00:17:44.420 And thank you for yours.

00:17:45.760 Don't forget, we want to, as a party, as supporters of the conservative movements,

00:17:50.400 continue to lay out the agenda as to why we need that carbon tax election.

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - September 24, 2024

The NDP and Bloc Quebecois have sold out their principles and their integrity to keep the Prime Minister and his party in power.

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