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The Conservative Party of Canada is in full swing after the party's convention in Calgary, Alberta. On today's show, host Jamie Schmale is joined by Tory MP Chris Workton to talk all things leadership and what it means for Canada and the future of the party.
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We are Canadians, only Canadians, could carve the world's best country out of a big, cold,
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vast land, because we never give up. We never back down. We never run away. We stand united,
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tonight together always because this country its people and promise are worth fighting for
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because while some say this is as good as it gets we know the best is yet to come thank you very much
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87 hello and welcome once again to the blueprints this is canada's conservative podcast i'm your
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host jamie schmale member of parliament for halliburton quarter lakes with new content
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this program on today's show the conservative convention in calgary is over amazing news going
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forward we're also going to talk china and what it means for canada and the future to talk about
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this and so much more we bring on the whip the party's whip be nice to this guy chris workington
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member of parliament for grand prairie thanks for coming on the show very good to be here so glad
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you're on the show and yes always be nice to the whip well now you have me in the hot seat so there
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you go. Yeah, that's right. Way to limit your career if you put the whip too much on the hot
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seat. Thanks for being on the show. It's great to be here. Calgary just ended. Yeah. Over the
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weekends, 87% of delegates voted for Pierre's leadership. That is a strong message that he is
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the right person to continue leading the party into the next election whenever that'll be.
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It is. It's a strong mandate, obviously, for the leader, but it's also a strong mandate for the
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message. The fight that we've been in for the last number of years, and it's really an endorsement
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to continue that fight, to fight for Canadians. Over 8 million Canadians sought to have us as
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their voice during the last election. This was an unprecedented level of support that this party
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hasn't ever seen in terms of vote totals, obviously higher than we've seen in elections on a percentage
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basis for years. And what Canadians are looking for is a voice that will stand up for
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those that have fallen behind. We're seeing Canadians who can't afford to eat, they can't
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afford to pay their rent or to afford their homes. We're seeing communities that have been ravaged
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by crime and people are committed to fixing it. They want Pierre, they want our party to fight
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That's why so many people came out and endorsed him.
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Like, the message you were getting, if you were glued to the CBC or CTV, it was like all doom and gloom.
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You know, we're lucky if we get through the weekend with Pierre still here.
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Amazing Prime Minister Stephen Harper, but that is better than what Stephen Harper got in his leadership review.
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So this is a solid signal that Pierre, yes, to all the things you just mentioned.
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And, you know, the youth that we've been able to attract, like even at the convention, it was incredible.
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The amount of young people that are energized and getting involved.
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As you know, all of us have a delegate spot that's designated for youth.
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And so we, all of us, you know, there's every riding is kind of given that opportunity.
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What we saw is far more youth at the convention than would have filled those spots.
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These were youth that were fighting for delegate spots that would have otherwise gone to others.
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And that is a very, very positive sign when you see that kind of support and endorsement by young people from across this country.
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Because, you know, for many of us, it's not easy to get to Calgary.
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There's expense, there's time that needs to be taken off of work.
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But for young people to get to there, it's just even that much harder.
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And so for the numbers of people that showed up that are young just demonstrates how committed they are to seeing a change in Canada.
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I think it's more than just support for our party.
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I think it's a desperation that things have to change for them and their future.
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That's what the exciting part is, is that they don't just want it to happen.
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They're getting involved in making sure that it happens.
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And I think it's even more than we saw in the last election.
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I think that there's an engagement by young people that has been growing even since the last election,
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which I think is fantastic news for our party, but more importantly, fantastic news for the country.
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100%. And even in my own case, it was amazing to see how many youth members I had.
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But they're hungry to get involved because I think they remember, whether they were born or through their parents, that housing was once affordable.
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Paychecks were once rising faster than inflation.
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You could actually get ahead, maybe even go on a vacation.
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And I think what the Liberals have done over the last 10 years is totally, I think, eye-opening to them.
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when, you know, maybe they were kids and they remember,
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yeah, we used to go on vacation and now we're struggling to eat
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That's not, this is what we're living now is not normal.
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And so this is a guy that's, you know, he's a professional.
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And, you know, he remembers a time that if you were a lawyer,
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But he's still looking for multiple roommates just to cover the cost.
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This isn't how it was with, you know, with our generation.
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You know, once we kind of got our feet under ourselves,
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you know, we started to, you know, started to get ahead.
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We started to, you know, put a down payment on a house.
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We never dreamt about not being able to afford groceries.
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And I think young people know that this isn't normal.
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As much as liberals say this is as good as it's going to get
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or this is awesome, we keep hearing from the liberals
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on the other side saying things have never been better.
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And then they go back and they start this rhetoric
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They know that the inability to afford just the essentials is not normal.
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They also know that when the police are coming to their door
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because there's been multiple shootings on that street
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or they're expecting more shootings, that's not normal.
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People are fed up, and they're not just getting angry.
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They're getting involved, and that's what's the most exciting point
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is that people are prepared to do the heavy lifting
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to make sure that this country can go back to a place
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Mark Carney was supposedly elected to get a deal with the United States.
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About 76% of all our trade goes to the United States.
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We have maybe a deal, maybe an interest in a deal with China now,
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in exchange for vehicles and other other things um at the same time um let's cue up cut one here
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we have uh mark carney making a speech i know it was a an older clip and uh but it frames up what
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we're about to talk about next clay cut one the world has changed much since that last visit
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and i believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new
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We cut out the part where with Scott Moe, the Premier of Saskatchewan, I kind of looked over like, what?
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I think every Canadian is kind of looking and saying, what?
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It'd sure be nice if we would know what this new world order was before we go to China and make a deal about joining this new world order.
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I can't either. But, you know, it's first China, which we have about three to four percent of all
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our trade. Then then the prime minister goes over to Qatar, Qatar, and starts talking trade there.
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It seems that like China and Russia are tight. Russia's, you know, attacking Ukraine.
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There's China's tight with North Korea. Like, I guess the conversation should go also to your
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point, what is the new world order? But do we want to be like extra close buddies with these nations
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that are probably not the best actors? Well, I think that there's two different parts of the
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things that he talked about when he was in China. One is one that we would all agree in, which is,
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agree on, which is we should have good trade with China. They're a big country, they have a lot of
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purchasing power, they produce a lot of things. So there's no question that we're going to have a
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trade relationship. But what he talked about was deepening our security arrangement with China,
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which is deeply concerning. This is a country that held two of our men, the two Michaels,
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indefinitely with no explanation. They made all kinds of claims and trumped up charges about
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what they claimed that these guys were up to. But this is a case where we have a country that has
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been shown to be involved in election interference here in Canada.
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I don't know that we want to deepen our security arrangement with these folks.
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I don't know that they can be trusted on those levels.
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And yet Carney's not only talking about making a trade,
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working on the trade relationship, which I think we can all agree is important,
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but he's talking about deepening our security arrangement with them,
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which I think that Canadians are rightfully very, very concerned about.
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And notwithstanding what he claims that he got in terms of an agreement on trade,
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if you talk to the people that are actually being impacted like that,
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there's no guarantee that China is going to make it better on a permanent basis for our ag producers.
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This is a temporary fix, but what he is doing on the security side might be permanent.
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And that is something that I think every Canadian needs to ask questions about.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to put into question the support for trade in general.
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So then we have to really ask, what's included on that side?
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When he's in China, we've never got a resolution or a commitment by the Chinese
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that they're not going to engage in political interference here in Canada.
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We have, even during the last election, we had threats against conservative candidates
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that had bounties on their head from the Chinese government.
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Where's the contrition on the Chinese side?
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Where is a commitment from them that they're not going to engage in this kind of activity?
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I mean, they had a bounty on one of our conservative candidates' head.
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And what were they intending to do to that guy, to Jay?
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Joe, pardon me, I don't understand how we can engage in China in a new world order on issues of security
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when we haven't resolved the massive security threat that they are.
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As a matter of fact, during the last election, Mark Carney even said that China is the greatest security threat against Canada.
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Where's the resolution to that before we engage in the new world order with them?
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We have the Minister, Zhou Li, here, the Minister of Industry, I believe is her new title.
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It's a new year, and we're now in a new era of partnership with China.
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And so it was important for us and the Prime Minister to come as this first visit to Beijing
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and meeting, obviously, with Premier Li and tomorrow with President Xi.
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Let me be clear. We are here because we share a goal. We share a goal on getting to net zero.
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We believe we have lots of common interests with respect to how we use clean energy to get there.
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And we have common interests around how to get there on a conventional basis.
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And we're going to exploit that for the benefit of Canadian workers and for Canadians.
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Okay, so we just had the jobs minister and then we had the natural resources minister speaking back to back.
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They're talking about some pretty interesting stuff,
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especially when China's going nowhere near net zero.
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Well, this is incredible, what the minister just said.
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to somehow convince Canadians that we should get to net zero,
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which basically will handcuff us compared to all of our trading partners.
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You know, no such commitment exists in China in terms of actually getting to net zero,
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but he's making those claims and they're outrageous claims and nonsense,
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and I think the Canadians will see right through them.
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Yeah, I hope so. Just hearing that kind of thing, like what is, to your point earlier, what is the plan?
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Let's queue up cut four. This is our leader respondent.
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While we hope for the best, it would be naive to assume that things will go back to exactly what they were.
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Whether the next administration is Republican or Democrat, tariffs may be here for the foreseeable future.
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None of that, though, is an excuse for letting our guard down and repeating past mistakes
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by making Canada even more vulnerable to aggressive powers like the People's Republic of China,
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which the Prime Minister himself called our greatest threat only a few months ago.
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It was with great irony that the Prime Minister quoted one of the greatest heroes of the 20th century fight against totalitarian communism, Vaclav Havel, less than a week after launching a, quote, strategic partnership for a new world order with the Chinese communist regime.
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A partnership that includes plans to deepen engagement on national security issues at a senior level.
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We ran in the last election primarily affordability, yes, but also making Canada as strong as possible.
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That meant getting our energy out to world markets other than the United States.
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We still, under Mark Carney's government, still have no credible path to getting that done
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and no commitments on behalf of this government that it will go around the tanker bank, go around C-69.
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You know, they say they have these guardrails and parameters, but nobody's really biting yet.
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And this is how we make our, and this is what's so frustrating, right?
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Like, we need to get them out, and we can't yet.
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Well, what we saw at a time of crisis, when we had the Ukraine war, Russia-Ukraine war that started,
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This was a massive lift to make sure that they responded to a crisis.
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Mark Carney said that he needed to be elected during a time of crisis
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to ensure that we saw a significant change in the way that we had infrastructure in this country
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to lead to better and different trade, circumventing the United States.
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There's not one shovel in the ground on any project.
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Not just the ones that you and I have been pushing for.
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there's no projects. There's nobody coming up saying, yeah, we're interested. Like it's not
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only, it's not only, um, industry that's, that's not coming to the table because they're saying
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that the conditions that the government is putting into place are, are, are, are just too, um, too
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difficult to, to, uh, to meet. Uh, but, but, but the government isn't even approving any project.
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It's one thing if there's approvals and then the company pulls out, that's a, that's a different
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question than if the government is still withholding the approvals on these projects.
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We, as a party, heard from Mark Carney after the election. He said that he needed the bill
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called C-5 that would remove all encumbrance from the government simply being able to approve
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these large projects. He's not used that bill once. Not once has he signed an approval to
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circumvent the processes to ensure that stuff got built in this country. This is the guy that said
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he was going to build at unimaginable speed. That was the commitment. There was two commitments
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that he made. One was that we were going to build at unimaginable speed, and none of that has
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happened. He's also the guy that said he would get a win for Canada with the United States by last
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July. We're now coming into almost a year after that. And there's no wind coming there. At least
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it doesn't appear that there is. Mark Carney made a bunch of promises. We have done everything in
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our power to back him up when we believe that the cause or the work that he was claiming to
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be getting done would benefit the Canadian economy or undertake to do the same types of things that
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we saw that needed to be done in this country. So we have fast-tracked his legislation. We have
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pushed for, you know, solutions to be, to, you know, to happen. But Mark Carney hasn't done his
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part. And I think that Canadians are starting to see that a guy that demanded all kinds of powers
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is not now willing to use those powers to do the things that he claimed that he was going to do in
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the last election. Yeah, there's one thing about making great speeches, but there's another thing
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about following up and actually impacting people's lives. Because at the end of the day, we can all
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clap and say, yeah, that was a great speech. But if you're sitting in your parents' basement because
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You can't get a job, or the job you get doesn't allow you to pay rent.
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the enormous power that Parliament gave the government,
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many of those pieces of legislation are barriers
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the previous Liberal government or the same Liberal government
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they are conceding that all of those laws are an encumbrance to get projects built.
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So they said there should be a bridge over all of those legislative encumbrances for some projects.
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He made a list and he said we're going to get some of those over that hump just by his signature.
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Remember those Sharpie, those signing ceremonies that he was engaged in?
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He quit doing those because he realized that he didn't want to use those powers anymore
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or didn't want to remind Canadians that he had those powers,
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And so now we are sitting in this no man's land where the legislation exists,
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the bridge over all of the encumbering, all of the hurdles exists,
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We, of course, think that all of those legislative hurdles should just be removed.
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so that every Canadian, regardless as to if you're connected to the government
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regardless as to if you have a buddy, a lobbyist that's connected to the government
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and can get you the bridge over, a ticket over the bridge,
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we believe that every Canadian should have the same right of success
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and the same right to do what we've always done as Canadians,
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which is succeed if we were hardworking and if we followed the rules.
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But, of course, this Prime Minister wants to favour some and not others.
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but if that's what you think needs to happen in order to get stuff built,
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And just a quick antidote, we've got to wrap up after that.
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I was at a mining conference last week in Vancouver, Junior Explorer.
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and the odds are really low of actually finding a positive or anything significant.
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Their comment over and over was capital has dried up in Canada.
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Getting that funding to start drilling those holes is near impossible.
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So this, unfortunately, is the atmosphere we're dealing with in Canada.
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where we can fight for Canadians that are looking for hope.
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that are going to bring hope to not only this generation,
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I'm looking forward to continuing to work with you
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Chris Workington, Member of Parliament for Grand Prairie,
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