The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - The race to replace Trudeau.

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00:00:25.220 made available. The Liberal leadership race is in full swing. Parliament's still prorogued. What

00:00:30.740 else is new? Thanks, Justin Trudeau, to talk about this and much, much more. We bring on Eric Duncan

00:00:35.720 from Eastern Ontario. Thanks for joining us. Stormont, Glengarry. Ah, Stormont, Dundas,

00:00:41.640 that's still here. You've got a big bit like Halliburton Corps with the Lake Project. It's a

00:00:44.760 great big long. Eastern Ontario has got these long writing names that we're representing here today.

00:00:48.780 Yes, I think I always get your writing wrong, so I think I would continue the tradition today.

00:00:53.720 Why change? Exactly, exactly. Well, thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. There's lots

00:00:58.100 going on. 2025 has been an interesting year in politics, and we're three weeks in. Oh my goodness.

00:01:03.180 Yes, the tariffs threat is still looming. It's been pushed back a bit. Our last show, it was

00:01:08.580 filmed before the inauguration. We've got a bit of a reprieve here, but just a terrible time for

00:01:13.660 Parliament to be out of session. Absolutely terrible. And the Liberals not focused on anything

00:01:17.700 happening around the world, just on themselves. Agreed, and this is going to be going on for another

00:01:21.760 two months. Parliament's not back. At a time, if we ever need a Parliament to sit, to go on and have

00:01:26.340 an emergency response to what's going on in the United States, the threat of tariffs going on,

00:01:31.260 where we need leadership. We have a lame duck Prime Minister, and we have a paralyzed or a shut 0.98

00:01:36.220 down Parliament in this case. We've been shut down for months and paralyzed in the sense that the

00:01:40.500 Liberals are hiding from their green slush fund accountability and documents to the RCMP.

00:01:45.340 And now we're prorogued at a time when we're supposed to be back this week. And Canadians

00:01:50.240 are looking where it's another two months for the Liberals to sort their chaos and mess out.

00:01:55.100 And we just want an election. Canadians should have their say now. It might be months yet before

00:01:59.900 we have that. And I just think right now, Donald Trump looks at Justin Trudeau, looks at the Liberal

00:02:04.880 Party and is just laughing right now. And that's very dangerous for our economy and for jobs in the

00:02:09.840 country. Absolutely. We saw how fast the Trump administration is moving on tariffs.

00:02:15.340 And threats to other countries. And Canada is not spared from this. Our auto industry is in

00:02:20.740 deep trouble if he moves forward with that. Oh, agreed. Very worrisome on that front. And again,

00:02:26.840 not having the leadership. We have premiers that are stepping up, meeting and trying to provide,

00:02:31.620 going down to Washington, D.C. But again, we have ministers, we have Liberal MPs that are

00:02:36.400 completely distracted. They're focused on themselves and their leadership race is starting to bicker back

00:02:40.860 and forth. And at a time when we need to be, again, just completely focused on the Canada-U.S.

00:02:47.200 relationship, it's completely absent and devoid of all that. So it just, we need to bring,

00:02:52.280 Pierre Paliap came out very clear. Let's bring, recall Parliament back now. Let's start to address

00:02:58.060 these issues now. Frank, let's have an election now so Canadians can have their say. A government can get

00:03:04.480 a mandate and we can restore common sense among many things. But again, restore some leadership

00:03:09.220 here to go toe-to-toe and be ready to retaliate against anything that Donald Trump and the United

00:03:14.380 States decide to do. We need to be prepared. We need to be organized. And I think, frankly,

00:03:19.460 we need a Prime Minister that has the credibility and the trust of Canadians. And that is far from the

00:03:24.540 situation right now. Yeah, there's been a number of polls lately. The majority of Canadians believe we

00:03:29.080 need an election. The majority think that we are going in the wrong direction. I think it's time,

00:03:34.300 way past time, for an election. And you know what? With the new administration of the United States,

00:03:38.700 and if it does become a majority parliament, that gives that four years to work with that

00:03:43.600 administration to work out the challenges ahead. A mandate. A mandate to go ahead and how we're

00:03:48.400 going to confront the challenge of the U.S. among many other things. This is the thing, too, of where

00:03:52.480 Donald Trump's election the last couple of months has obviously put this on the front burner.

00:03:56.240 But think as well, Jamie, all the other issues we're still dealing with domestically,

00:04:00.340 our housing mess, our broken immigration system, our still cost of living, cost of food, 1.00

00:04:05.260 two million people using a food bank every month. We've got domestic challenges that have happened

00:04:09.820 because of Justin Trudeau and all these Liberal MPs and ministers the last nine years. Now we have

00:04:15.260 this other threat. And here we are two months yet before the House comes back, before we could

00:04:20.040 actually even have a non-confidence vote or even give, you know, the idea of having an election,

00:04:24.840 but a mandate, a fresh mandate on all the issues we've got. I'm very confident of our position.

00:04:31.040 Pierre, as our leader, has been doing fantastic work and being very clear on what we would do as a

00:04:36.800 common-sense conservative government. But even if you don't want an election right now, why anybody

00:04:41.720 would not want that if you should be wanting to get a mandate from Canadians to go and combat the

00:04:46.940 many problems the country's faced?

00:04:48.300 So we do have many problems, plus, what, $62 billion in the hole on the credit card this year?

00:04:54.000 Last year, sorry. That is unbelievable. All right. So one of the people in the leadership race is,

00:04:58.520 of course, Karina Gould. She's the House leader. She's responsible for the agenda of the government

00:05:02.160 and largely responsible in part, I shouldn't say largely, in part responsible for this backlog,

00:05:07.960 the rain slush fund, the presentation of documents issue that we were dealing with to try to get to

00:05:12.280 the bottom of that scandal. She's running for leadership. And she just feels really

00:05:19.880 compassionate and really just energized to get to the bottom of what just happened the last

00:05:25.080 nine years. Let's keep up, cut one. And this is Karina Gould, the House leader,

00:05:31.240 really wants to get a hold of the person responsible. Play, cut one.

00:05:34.180 Canadians don't trust the Liberal Party of Canada right now. And I think that's because over the past

00:05:39.640 couple of years in particular, we've gotten further away from the grassroots and talking about the

00:05:44.740 things that Canadians care about. So what don't they trust about the Liberal Party? And how would

00:05:49.300 you correct that? Yeah. Well, look, whether it's with regards to housing or the cost of groceries,

00:05:54.780 they're saying things are expensive for us right now. And we need help to make ends meet. And we need

00:06:00.620 leaders who are focused on those really, you know, like things that matter to us, like our pocketbook

00:06:08.980 issues and making sure that we're there. Sounds like our message. And she defended the Liberal 0.96

00:06:14.640 narrative all the way through. The gall that she has. And I said, watch that clip. You'd think that 0.96

00:06:21.100 the Liberal Party right now is in third place or in the corner of the House of Commons with a couple

00:06:25.680 dozen MPs. And they're just trying to find out whose problem it was for the last nine years that

00:06:30.600 created all of this. They're trying to reinvent themselves and talk about in Karina Gould as the

00:06:35.200 government house leader. Canadians not trusting them. She's the one that has paralyzed Parliament 1.00

00:06:40.000 before it was shut down by Justin Trudeau. She was the one that paralyzed Parliament for months

00:06:44.780 as the government house leader because they refused to turn over all the documents about the $400 million

00:06:50.800 Green Slush Fund. So you talk about Canadians not trusting the Liberals. She is one of the most

00:06:55.640 complicit in this. And it's not just been Justin Trudeau. It has been every leadership contender that is

00:07:01.140 running in this race. Every Liberal MP and Minister, they've been at the Cabinet table. They've been in

00:07:06.400 the caucus room. They're the ones that have been voting for all these voting confidence, voting for

00:07:10.560 the budgets, and propping the Prime Minister up even as he got more and more and more unpopular. So

00:07:16.580 I think the confidence she had to try to give that answer, she's one of the ones, you know, the main

00:07:21.440 factors that Canadians don't trust the Liberals. And you can change the leader out, but Justin Trudeau and

00:07:27.520 the record of the last nine years, that's going to be on the ballot. And so laughable, this approach

00:07:32.620 they're trying to take. It is incredible. And I said it many times before on different Liberals,

00:07:37.000 the way they talk, there is absolutely no discomfort. You see, like, there's no, no issues.

00:07:42.700 Like, when people go shopping, they look at their bill, like, they're the problem, not the

00:07:47.000 government, right? She's just like, well, you know, cost of living is out of control. But we've told

00:07:52.560 them that for, I don't know, how many years now? And as if there was something they could have done

00:07:55.660 in the last nine years, they're not done in a lot of cases. The carbon tax, their housing

00:08:00.040 plan, that's been an absolute disaster and doubled everything in housing costs. Our immigration 1.00

00:08:05.420 system that they broke and they've admitted, they've even started, they just backtrack.

00:08:09.520 At what point do you completely lose credibility? It is gone. At what point do you lose, you know,

00:08:14.900 any sort of just, I think, dignity in yourself, that way of going out? They've backtracked on

00:08:18.800 everything. And now going out and just making that blanket statement that they don't trust,

00:08:22.680 they're even admitting now what Canadians have known. They don't trust the Liberals. I don't

00:08:26.460 think a leadership race is going to change this. Because again, every person running is tied very

00:08:31.320 closely to Trudeau. And they're the ones that have backed up all these plans that have got us in the

00:08:36.120 mess that we're in. Yeah, it's the same bus, same route, same company. They're just changing the

00:08:39.960 driver. Exactly. So the two top ones, I guess, if you can call it that, is Chrystia Freeland. Of course, 0.99

00:08:45.200 she said she believes the Prime Minister should be an MP. The quick screenshot there.

00:08:51.160 She looks like she is not garnering the support that she thought she would. There's a number of

00:08:57.860 her cabinet colleagues who are going towards Mark Carney. Mr. Outsider. Yeah, the opposite of an

00:09:03.680 outsider, just behind the scenes advising, again, Trudeau and the $62 billion deficit we've got.

00:09:10.460 It was Chrystia Freeland had no problem with any of this until Justin Trudeau told her he was going to

00:09:15.420 fire her the following week. So again, they had a guardrail of $40 billion, which is an excessive

00:09:21.140 deficit for Canada to have as it was. That was going to be the guardrail. They blew right past

00:09:27.180 it at $62 billion. And the list goes on. The capital gains tax hike they're putting on small

00:09:32.840 businesses and home builders and doctors, everybody that's going to be paying this ripple effect of

00:09:38.680 another tax increase. She tried to backtrack on that. Now, the carbon tax, you're not sure where

00:09:44.160 they all stand, but you don't trust any of them. This is all posturing for people's votes in a

00:09:49.440 leadership race and then an election at some point this year, hopefully this spring or as soon as

00:09:54.360 possible. But again, the lack of conviction that Chrystia Freeland is having, let's make it very

00:10:01.200 clear. If Justin Trudeau didn't call her on Zoom on that Friday and told her he was going to fire her

00:10:06.740 for Mark Carney. So Mark Carney had agreed to become the finance minister. He agreed with all these

00:10:11.960 economic plans and the deficit and everything. This outsider Mark Carney, the only reason that she quit

00:10:18.100 and all of a sudden is backtracking and changing her position is because she was going to get fired. 1.00

00:10:23.220 So I think Canadians don't buy this. And again, it speaks to the desperation the Liberals have

00:10:28.860 and their lack of conviction on things. Now they're trying to reverse course. They're trying to pretend

00:10:33.900 there's something they're not. And I think as opposed to helping them, I think Canadians just shake their 1.00

00:10:38.380 head and say, this is a party that's just falling apart, trying to run away from Justin Trudeau. But as

00:10:43.460 we've been saying that they're just like Justin and Chrystia Freeland is no different.

00:10:47.420 Well, Freeland's now backtracking on the carbon tax. I guess they all are. But now we have Freeland

00:10:52.860 talking about the changes she wants to make back on the capital gains tax increases. Like this is

00:10:59.340 something that was her champion. How many times did she stand in the House of Commons, defend it

00:11:04.020 to her last breath and said, it's going to be great. We're, you know, taxing the wealthy or whatever

00:11:08.620 her lines were. And, and we said steadfast that this is going to damage the economy and our overall

00:11:14.840 competitiveness.

00:11:16.240 And one of the most arrogant, and I think undemocratic things about all of this was

00:11:20.700 Chrystia Freeland was finance minister only up until a few weeks ago. CRA, despite, and this is the

00:11:25.600 one thing for Canadians to know, this never passed in legislation. The Liberals were so disorganized

00:11:30.180 in chaos about everything. Going back over several months now, it's nearly been a year since they

00:11:36.560 announced this plan for the capital gains tax hike, and they never passed or tabled any legislation

00:11:41.540 that got through. So now what Freeland's trying to do is saying, oh, I'm against it. But it was

00:11:46.520 officials at CRA, even though the bill never passed Parliament, never became law, they're still going

00:11:52.080 ahead and got the Liberal directive to enforce it and start, you know, taking those increased tax

00:11:57.260 hikes from Canadians. So it didn't even pass it. They couldn't even be organized. They're forcing 1.00

00:12:02.340 and demanding that CRA collect this tax hike from Canadians. Now she's going out and saying

00:12:07.140 she opposes the whole thing. It's a farce. The issues just go on and on and on. But the same

00:12:13.000 thing at the end of the day, they just, they're not going to be able to get away from their record

00:12:16.000 of propping Trudeau up. This is just another example. Nobody buys it.

00:12:19.460 And it's really difficult for Canadians who have to sit back and take this day in and day out,

00:12:24.640 because when a government's desperate, they make really desperate decisions. And we're seeing that.

00:12:28.800 And I call it pendulum politics now. They're swinging all over the place, trying to run away

00:12:33.760 and get attention or try to drive attention away from what we've been saying is, look,

00:12:38.160 I love the analogy about the bus driver, right? It's the same bus, same route, different driver.

00:12:43.120 And this is the same. It's the same group of Liberal MPs, the same group of Liberal ministers.

00:12:47.260 They've all been there every time. It's been Carney being the key economic advisor to Trudeau.

00:12:53.640 He did it through the Liberal Party of Canada. So he didn't have to do all these ethics disclosures

00:12:57.880 and all these conflicts and interests that he has, but going and giving all this advice

00:13:02.260 and now pretending that they're a bunch of outsiders and they're all brand new.

00:13:05.660 They're running as if they're like they're the third place party and they have had nothing to do

00:13:09.660 with the last nine years. It is, it's just ridiculous. And so it's going to be weeks and weeks 0.97

00:13:14.920 more of this chaos and drama and backtracking that they have, all while we lack the leadership

00:13:22.240 we need to confront the problems that we've got.

00:13:24.100 Well, let's bring in the outsider here. Cut two. Mr. Carbon Tax Carney, the outsider,

00:13:29.520 he's coming in a champion for the little guy, this guy. Play cut two.

00:13:33.020 You say you're the outsider, but it looks like the party establishment is lying up behind you.

00:13:41.380 It's the issue of deputies, elected members, ministers, others, liberals across the country

00:13:50.220 who are making a choice and are making a choice about the importance of the economy,

00:13:54.720 the importance of coming together, building together. That's a free choice.

00:13:58.640 This is the Liberal Party. We believe in freedom.

00:14:00.860 Believe in freedom.

00:14:01.860 A bunch of liberal word salad that means nothing. Virtue signaling all over. And again, he's going

00:14:08.440 to make a natural liberal leadership contender.

00:14:10.580 He's going to be beautiful. He can lie with the best of them.

00:14:12.360 And he'd never answer a question. Just a bunch of word salad and virtue signaling. And you leave

00:14:16.540 there and saying, what did he even mean?

00:14:18.760 Well, you know, the reporter, Bob Fyfe, was correct. When he asked the question, you're claiming

00:14:24.260 to be the outsider, but yet it looks like the establishment of the party, the prime minister's

00:14:29.240 office, his top staff, the machinery in general, are all lining up behind the outsider, Mr. Carbontax.

00:14:37.060 The best part of that clip was, as you see the people in the background, they're all liberal

00:14:40.820 ministers and MPs that supported Justin Trudeau, voted with him in caucus, did all these disastrous

00:14:45.680 plans. They're the ones trying to shield him from answering questions in the media and get him

00:14:49.900 into this event in downtown Ottawa to meet a bunch of liberal MPs and liberal staff that,

00:14:54.860 again, have been all part in propping up Trudeau the last nine years. So the irony of that,

00:15:00.000 trying to convince Canadians he's an outsider, I'm not one to give advice and try to understand

00:15:04.980 where they come from. But of all the arguments Mark Carney can make, he is far from an outsider.

00:15:09.720 And that's just a frank reality. It's carbon tax Carney, because he, again, have the nickname

00:15:14.000 and we connect people. Whenever you're the economic advisor, that means you're giving the

00:15:18.240 advice on the $62 billion deficit, on quadrupling the carbon tax to 61 cents a liter. And now only

00:15:25.100 what a vote is upcoming in a leadership race, and then in a general election that's coming

00:15:29.980 sooner rather than later, they're trying to run away and pretend the last couple of years. So

00:15:34.880 you can't claim and brag to be an economic advisor, to be an outsider, and not have anything to do with

00:15:41.640 these plans. So again, the credibility right off the bat of the contenders, Mark Carney, no different.

00:15:48.380 He's been very close to Trudeau, and he's been very associated. He's had no problems with any of

00:15:53.600 the plans until he had to talk publicly about them. Well, exactly. And I think what their messaging is,

00:15:59.500 is because he's an outsider, they're hoping to tap into those voters that might not pay attention,

00:16:06.660 right? They have lives, they have better things to do, play politics 24-7, right? And so there's

00:16:12.640 a large swath of people that don't know who Mark Carney is, probably don't care until up until

00:16:16.460 really now. So if they hear he's an outsider and really don't know much about him, I think that's

00:16:21.260 their winning bet. But meanwhile, he's the most elitist individual in that group.

00:16:27.480 I agree, 100%. And this is the thing, too, what we have to do. We've got to call it out,

00:16:30.840 and that's what we've been doing, to say, no, he is not an outsider, and accurately calling him

00:16:35.880 out for what he is. He's an insider. He's an Ottawa elite that has been doing all this behind

00:16:41.480 the scenes, but advising Justin Trudeau, and he's bragged about it. There's been numerous examples.

00:16:46.800 He's been bragging about the carbon tax. That's why we give the name Carbon Tax Carney,

00:16:50.860 is because we have to remind people he's going out now, and look at this, he's got the radical

00:16:55.180 environment minister, Stephen Guibault, one of the most unpopular elected officials in the entire

00:17:00.340 country, endorsing Mark Carney. He's been the king of the carbon tax himself, and now saying,

00:17:05.660 well, no, we don't support the carbon tax, but we're going to replace it, but we're not going

00:17:10.540 to tell you what it is yet. All this to be said is, Mark Carney has been planning a leadership run

00:17:16.200 for years in the back rooms of Ottawa and Toronto and Bay Street. Now, all of a sudden,

00:17:22.840 he comes out and he doesn't have a plan. That is just code for we're going to lie all the way up

00:17:27.720 until the election and hope for the best. And then after the election, if they got back in,

00:17:32.000 heaven forbid, they'd go in, they'd say, oh, now Guibault's going to come back and say, well,

00:17:36.340 we've got to do this. And they broke their promise before, Jamie. Think about it. Back in 2019,

00:17:41.640 when the carbon tax first came in, the Liberals promised it was only going to be $50 a ton,

00:17:46.840 and they wouldn't, Canadians couldn't afford any tax increases beyond that. Well, they went and did

00:17:51.760 it over $170 a ton, and that's part of this whole plan of quadrupling it, the carbon tax to 61

00:17:58.260 cents a leader. They broke their promise after the election, and Canadians were, you know,

00:18:03.780 tricked and duped into doing it. I think, again, in 2015, 2019, 2021, again, you can change the

00:18:11.140 leaders, but Canadians aren't going to trust. They're going to flip-flop again right after

00:18:14.960 the election if they get back in. Well, let's play, let's queue up cut three. This,

00:18:19.900 in normal circumstances, would be the kiss of death for many leadership contestants. Liberals,

00:18:25.540 they work under a different set of rules and different set of parameters here. So this is the

00:18:30.520 environment minister, like you said, probably the most radical on that front bench, giving his

00:18:37.580 endorsement to Mr. Outsider Carbon Tax Carney, play cut three. I'm here to tell you today that I

00:18:43.560 will be offering my support to Mark Carney. The fact that you're not very popular in Western Canada,

00:18:49.080 especially in Alberta and Saskatchewan, how is your support going to benefit Mr. Carney in this race?

00:18:55.540 Um, I, I think I'm probably popular in parts of the country and popular in, in, in others. I'm not

00:19:04.100 sure I'm the best person to, to, to answer that, that question. I'm going to do everything I can

00:19:08.600 and help in any way I can, uh, to, to make sure that Mark Carney is, is the next leader of the

00:19:13.440 Liberal Party. Probably my least favorite minister. Just saying. I can answer that question. He is not

00:19:19.020 popular anywhere in the country. I don't think so. He was the guy who was going to quit cabinet if there

00:19:23.220 were any more carve outs to the carbon tax. So you have Mark Carney saying, well, we'll have to

00:19:28.460 rethink this. And he is, uh, Stephen Guilbeau is offering his endorsement to the, the outsider. So

00:19:34.540 what do they have up their sleeve? So you're right. They are either lying or whatever they're coming up

00:19:40.440 with is worse. Cause otherwise he wouldn't get that endorsement. Talk about a hidden agenda.

00:19:43.780 It is right, very clearly. Why would Guilbeau sign on to a candidate that says he's going to get rid

00:19:49.380 of the carbon tax. And again, Mark Carney has been touting the carbon tax and actually saying

00:19:53.620 it's not high enough and not going up fast enough. And now all of a sudden saying they're going to get

00:19:57.980 rid of it and come up with something new, but they're not going to say what it is and how they're

00:20:01.960 going to do it. The NDP have been playing the exact same thing. Jagmeet Singh knows how unpopular and

00:20:07.160 failed the carbon tax is. So several months ago said, yeah, we don't support the carbon tax anymore,

00:20:11.840 but we're going to take the time and figure out a new plan. It's been several months and we've heard

00:20:17.200 radio silence from the NDP on their position on this, but this is all we've seen this textbook

00:20:22.500 before. This is what liberals do. They just go and they MacGyver themselves and they try to trick

00:20:27.180 Canadians just to get through the election period. And then afterwards go and say, oh, well, you know,

00:20:31.680 we've got to do this or we didn't mean it. And they backtrack. They've done that several times in

00:20:36.460 the carbon tax. They've done it. No more tax hikes, the capital gains. And they say only the rich will pay.

00:20:41.840 It is absolutely not the truth. It is doctors. It is home builders. It is small business owners

00:20:47.260 all getting nailed with this. And they try to seek forgiveness afterwards. So I look at Gibo,

00:20:53.060 you know, the most, you're right, the most radical minister. He was arrested climbing the CN Tower back

00:20:58.320 in the day. And again, he was actually on record whenever they had this whole $170 a ton metric that

00:21:06.380 they broke their promise on and put it. When it went, their whole plan to quadruple the carbon tax

00:21:11.160 from the current rates to $0.61 a litre. Gibo said he wasn't even sure if he was to be done at that.

00:21:16.600 He was open to increasing it and jacking up the carbon tax even more after that. So you're right.

00:21:22.300 What did they, what did Mark Carney promise Stephen Gibo to get his endorsement in the leadership race?

00:21:28.000 And the fact that he hasn't come up with an alternative yet, this tells you everything about the

00:21:31.900 integrity. And I think where this race is going, they're trying to run every which way away from

00:21:37.420 their record. Well, I guess Gilbo's endorsement of Carney does fit some narrative, right? Like

00:21:42.900 Carney is okay with pipelines as long as they're not built in Canada. And Carney moved his company

00:21:49.360 from Ontario into New York, well, New York City, you know, taking those jobs with it, right? And then

00:21:56.560 he wants to profess he is the savior of this country. Yeah. And all while trying to get more

00:22:02.620 money. So they need in the budget and the fall economic statement that the chaos that got tabled

00:22:08.120 because Freeland had quit and the chaos of that day, he's like, he's got his handout trying to get

00:22:12.720 handouts for his company from the federal government as well. So again, between the hypocrisy is outstanding.

00:22:20.040 You know, I give them an A for all of that, where they can go out so confidently and just make it look

00:22:25.400 so smug. But at the end of the day, they're just all over the map on their positions. And that's

00:22:30.540 where I just say, get this race over with, let Canadians have a say right now, get Parliament back,

00:22:37.180 let Canadians have, nothing's going to change over the two months. They're going to backtrack 0.93

00:22:40.840 and they're going to, you know, just try to reverse this whole perception. But again, very clear,

00:22:46.460 the next election, Justin Trudeau will be on the ballot because the record of the last nine years

00:22:51.600 is going to be on there. And Canadians cannot be fooled and they won't be fooled. We're going to make

00:22:56.020 sure that they know about the positions, the mess that we're in. And again, I think caught flat-footed

00:23:01.760 when it comes to the issues in the U.S. and tariffs and the response of Donald Trump, we were caught

00:23:06.300 completely, completely flat-footed. And it's going to cost and sadly worry many Canadians about their jobs

00:23:13.400 and some of the key industries we have in this country.

00:23:15.260 Well, hopefully Jagmeet Singh will keep his word. We'll vote down the government at the earliest

00:23:21.360 opportunity and we'll be into an election. But hey, as the airing of the show, that is Jagmeet Singh's

00:23:27.320 position. Who knows if that's going to change three minutes from now?

00:23:31.020 Exactly. We'll see what it brings. A week's an eternity in politics. Who knows? Between the

00:23:34.960 Liberals and NDP, who knows these days?

00:23:37.140 All right. We're pretty much out of time. As you know, the guests get the last word. The floor

00:23:40.480 is yours.

00:23:41.820 Well, again, this week we were supposed to be back in Parliament. Committees were supposed to be

00:23:45.020 back. Question period is supposed to be back. And here we are shuttered. Shut out for the

00:23:49.560 next two months at a time that we need it the most. So, again, I support the call. We

00:23:54.120 should have Parliament back now. At a time when the House should be sitting, at a time

00:23:57.500 when we should be getting a plan and showing leadership, I think it's time for a carbon

00:24:02.500 tax election, get the House back, and I think have a common sense Prime Minister in Pierre

00:24:07.560 Polyev that we can start to address. Like I said before, confronting this major emergency

00:24:13.460 situation we have with the United States and President Donald Trump, but also starting to

00:24:17.920 address the many challenges we've been talking about for two years, and now Liberal leadership

00:24:21.840 contenders agreeing with us. Axing the tax, building the homes, fixing the budget, and stopping

00:24:27.120 the crime. There's a lot we have to do. Let's get Canadians to have their say. Let's get a new

00:24:32.000 mandate. Let's get to work. 0.96

00:24:33.460 Eric Duncan, the Member of Parliament for Stormont, Dundas, South Glengarry. We appreciate your time.

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - January 20, 2025

The race to replace Trudeau.

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