The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - May 10, 2022


The Trouble with Travel


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Join Conservative MP's Melissa Lantzman (Thornhill, Ontario) and Stephanie Tusey (Calgary, Alberta) as they discuss the need for Canada to get back to a more flexible travel policy.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to The Blue Brings.
00:00:05.620 This is Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:00:07.820 I'm your host, Jamie Schmael, member of Parliament for Halliburton 4th, Alex Brock, broadcasting
00:00:12.040 live from our nation's capital with two amazing guests on a topic I know you'll be interested
00:00:16.500 in, employment, cost of living, and of course, travel mandates that still remain in Canada.
00:00:21.820 Before we get to our amazing guests and that topic, please remember to like, comment, subscribe,
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00:00:42.280 Without further delay, let's get to our guests, good friends of the show, Melissa Lantzman,
00:00:45.660 member of Parliament for Thornhill in the beautiful province of Ontario, and Stephanie Tusey, the
00:00:50.260 member of Parliament for Calgary, Mindepore.
00:00:52.280 Thank you very much.
00:00:54.900 Hi, Steph's mom.
00:00:56.920 Thank you.
00:00:57.500 Everyone's excited to be here.
00:00:58.760 That's great.
00:00:59.460 That's great.
00:01:00.060 Thanks for being here.
00:01:00.940 Let's start with the travel mandates.
00:01:02.240 Melissa is the transport critic.
00:01:04.240 So we are like one of the only countries in the world still with travel mandates.
00:01:07.780 We are the last bastion of restrictive travel.
00:01:11.540 There is, you know what?
00:01:13.060 It's actually getting to the point of absurd.
00:01:15.680 We've got four, five, six, up to six million Canadians who can't travel.
00:01:20.880 We're the only country that does it.
00:01:22.980 And of course, if you've been to an airport in the last little while, if you're lucky enough
00:01:27.460 to go to an airport in the last little while and get on a plane and get out of here, you
00:01:31.400 will find long lineups, intrusive testing on the way back.
00:01:35.860 We still have these things and it's simply not based on science.
00:01:39.500 And if it is based on science, it's secret science because we haven't seen any of it.
00:01:43.640 So what does this government know that countries all around the world don't?
00:01:47.240 Well, that's a good question.
00:01:48.220 They must have known something.
00:01:49.100 We continue to ask and we continue to pressure them every day to put it on the table.
00:01:53.420 When they got the advice, what is the advice?
00:01:55.480 When they got the advice last?
00:01:57.220 When they, you know, what is the advice?
00:02:00.860 And they're not telling us.
00:02:02.600 So the advice is certainly different in Canada than anywhere else because, again, if you've
00:02:06.600 gone anywhere else, and we see this from news reports, they have allowed their citizens
00:02:11.900 to see their families and go back to work and get back to real life.
00:02:15.480 And it seems that in Canada, we can't get there.
00:02:18.580 So let's bring in Stephanie. 1.00
00:02:19.420 Stephanie Cusey, she's the critic for employment, workforce development, and disability inclusion.
00:02:25.200 What are you seeing?
00:02:25.980 You're probably hearing the same thing.
00:02:27.320 You're from Calgary.
00:02:28.280 You must be hearing from people that would like to board a plane or a train and get moving again.
00:02:32.540 Yeah, no, Melissa's absolutely correct.
00:02:34.940 I mean, these restrictions have gone on indefinitely.
00:02:38.100 It just seems that Canadians are ready to get back to normal, and the federal government
00:02:43.780 is dragging their feet.
00:02:46.200 Really, at this point, it seems vindictive.
00:02:48.480 It doesn't even seem, as Melissa mentioned, like it's about the science anymore.
00:02:52.300 Canadians want to get back to vacations.
00:02:54.060 They want to get back to seeing loved ones.
00:02:55.960 And they want to be able to do it in a mandate-free environment.
00:02:59.180 And right now, this government just isn't allowing for it, Jamie.
00:03:02.240 So is Tristan Trudeau punishing people who didn't vote for him?
00:03:04.600 Well, I definitely think that he is punishing people, and we see this consistently with
00:03:09.940 the liberals and liberal ideology, punishing those who do not agree with their ideas and
00:03:14.760 their views.
00:03:15.420 It's consistent throughout all of government and throughout all of policy.
00:03:19.500 And certainly, the mandates and transportation, as Melissa well does, is not exempt.
00:03:23.900 Absolutely.
00:03:24.540 So, Melissa, cost of living, we're seeing that all across the country.
00:03:27.880 6.7% inflation.
00:03:29.420 We have currency inflation.
00:03:30.560 We have price inflation.
00:03:31.600 We have shortages everywhere you look.
00:03:33.400 We have problems everywhere.
00:03:36.740 Agriculture is having issues, getting fertilizer in.
00:03:39.020 Price of food is through the roof.
00:03:41.420 Everything's through the roof.
00:03:42.840 Do we see an end to this?
00:03:43.940 This liberal government seems to not have a path.
00:03:45.820 There is no plan.
00:03:46.840 There is no path.
00:03:48.260 And Canadians are hurting.
00:03:49.520 And we hear it every single day.
00:03:51.060 We see the price of gas, the price of food, the price of housing.
00:03:54.320 There is only one thing that has gotten cheaper in this country over the last seven years,
00:03:58.260 and that's the cost of money.
00:03:59.280 Because we are printing it.
00:04:01.120 We are spending it on things that we don't need.
00:04:04.760 And it's money that we don't have.
00:04:07.420 And this is all just to continue to buy votes.
00:04:11.700 And in some cases, buy the NDP.
00:04:13.960 Your viewers would know that there is a marriage.
00:04:17.480 I don't know if it's a great marriage happening between the liberals and the NDP.
00:04:20.900 But effectively, the liberals are spending your money to buy their votes to get that pseudo-majority.
00:04:26.040 So we're not seeing an end to it.
00:04:28.080 And any suggestion of a responsible spending path forward, well, it's not called answer, period.
00:04:33.900 We're not hearing any of the answers on that.
00:04:35.600 $2.25 a litre diesel.
00:04:37.540 What does this do to transport sector?
00:04:39.000 Everything is trucked.
00:04:39.880 Look, everything is more expensive when the price of fuel goes up.
00:04:43.780 And it's an ideological opposition to the fact that we have an incredible resource.
00:04:48.380 Where Stephanie comes from, we've got enough gas to give the world clean energy. 1.00
00:04:55.880 Get off of dictator oil.
00:04:57.500 And we are not doing it.
00:04:59.680 And this is because the liberals have an ideological plan to kill our industry.
00:05:05.200 And there's nothing more than that.
00:05:06.240 As a result, you're going to pay more for every single thing.
00:05:08.880 Shoes, clothes, food, everything.
00:05:12.200 Stephanie, this goes back.
00:05:13.380 I know the liberals are saying, how would you solve the problem now?
00:05:15.860 But I think we have to always rewind to how did we get here in the first place 0.87
00:05:19.780 so we stopped making these ridiculous mistakes?
00:05:22.000 How many pipelines were canceled because of this liberal government?
00:05:25.060 The world is crying for Canadian oil.
00:05:27.260 And we have no way to get it to them.
00:05:28.860 You're absolutely correct.
00:05:30.520 And that was a point that I touched on in my speech yesterday in the Budget Implementation Act.
00:05:35.020 Is that, again, the ideology that we have seen from this liberal government
00:05:38.760 is destroying entire sectors in our country.
00:05:41.920 And that includes the natural resources sector.
00:05:44.200 They've been less than enthusiastic about Line 5.
00:05:47.440 They have missed the opportunity for Canada to provide its natural resources to Europe
00:05:52.700 in an effort to save Ukraine and not keep Europe and Ukraine in this terrible predicament.
00:05:58.200 that they're in.
00:05:59.080 But you're correct.
00:05:59.740 It goes back all the way to 2015, 2016, when we saw the presentation and implementation
00:06:05.020 of C-48, the tanker moratorium, C-69, the No More Pipelines bill.
00:06:10.900 All of these things have continued to kill the industry bit by bit by bit.
00:06:17.380 And again, it's for a silly reason.
00:06:19.880 It's for liberal ideology.
00:06:21.160 Because our natural resources are such a gift for our nation, as Melissa pointed out.
00:06:26.920 And especially, you know, I'm so blessed in my province where I come from, Alberta,
00:06:30.760 that has so much that they want to offer not only Canada, but all of the world. 0.63
00:06:35.320 And this liberal government, with their silly ideology, is not offering the opportunity for Canada to do that.
00:06:41.620 Yeah, the liberals seem to have this hate on, as you mentioned, for domestic oil and gas. 0.86
00:06:45.900 But they seem open to the idea of mining rare earth materials.
00:06:49.960 So you can't extract oil and gas when there's technology like carbon capture and storage.
00:06:54.500 But it's okay to take rare earth minerals from the ground.
00:06:58.880 I still don't understand their logic.
00:07:00.700 Yeah, and in addition to that, like sell off our mines to foreign interests, which not only present serious national security problems,
00:07:10.360 but in addition to that, only contribute to problems in the supply chain, such as the production of semiconductors.
00:07:17.700 So again, the reasoning of this liberal government is, it just, it is not reasonable.
00:07:22.400 The reason doesn't exist for them.
00:07:24.140 And it's all based on an ideology that started seven years ago now, and which has done nothing but drive Canada further and further into the ground.
00:07:32.880 Okay, you talked about price inflation.
00:07:34.600 You talked about the spending, the printing.
00:07:36.580 My goodness, it actually starts to bother me.
00:07:39.560 It's tiring, right?
00:07:39.600 It does.
00:07:40.280 It does.
00:07:40.920 But they just don't seem to listen.
00:07:41.980 The NDP are urging them to do even more.
00:07:44.320 But they don't realize that their actions have consequences.
00:07:48.240 Yeah, well, right now their actions haven't had consequences directly.
00:07:51.860 I mean, we have a strong opposition, and we're holding them to account every day.
00:07:55.860 But Justin Trudeau couldn't get his majority for voters, so he bought his majority from the NDP.
00:08:00.700 And now every single Canadian is going to pay the price.
00:08:03.560 And I think Canadian voters won't forget that, and they will remember that the next time they go to the polls.
00:08:08.540 And our job, our job is to make sure that we throw every wrench into that bad marriage so the Canadians don't pay the price.
00:08:16.920 But you see this in question.
00:08:18.900 Both of you are holding them to account.
00:08:20.560 Does it not seem that the Liberals, unless they're making people's lives miserable and uncomfortable, they're not being Liberals?
00:08:27.560 Like, it's one rule, one regulation, one piece of red tape, one tax after another, after another.
00:08:33.680 The more they do, the worse off we are.
00:08:37.300 And that's been clear.
00:08:38.400 And every time you get up and ask a question, they talk about how much money they spent.
00:08:42.520 And I think Canadians are certainly getting tired of it.
00:08:44.900 Well, you guys know this from your writings.
00:08:46.980 I hear it in mine.
00:08:47.760 I have people coming from Liberal writings in and around the GTA.
00:08:51.640 By the way, I need some more friends if anyone's going to help.
00:08:54.940 But you hear this anger and people are exacerbated.
00:08:59.820 They're exhausted and they're struggling.
00:09:02.820 And this government is not the government that's answering for those struggles.
00:09:06.820 And I think that that's our job and I think that's what we're doing.
00:09:09.080 So we're talking about struggles.
00:09:11.440 We mentioned the oil and gas industry.
00:09:13.100 We've seen since 2015 hundreds of billions of dollars in investment leave this country.
00:09:20.960 How do you get that back when companies are looking at their whole portfolio, they're looking at the global marketplace,
00:09:28.380 and they're thinking, we have limited dollars to invest.
00:09:30.620 Where are we going to do that?
00:09:31.900 How does Canada get on the map as a spot where we should be putting the money from those companies?
00:09:37.880 Well, it certainly doesn't start with the ideological policy that we've seen.
00:09:44.260 And again, just rules and regulations that are just absolutely tied to an ideology rather than growing Canada and investing in Canada.
00:09:55.460 You know, I even thought from the beginning of the pandemic that the prime minister could have done an entire inventory of everything that Canada has to offer,
00:10:04.460 either from agriculture to minerals, to oil and gas, really just to evaluate what we have and where those opportunities are available.
00:10:15.920 And instead of coming up with investing rich policy, which allows many nations around the world, many individuals around the world,
00:10:27.340 companies around the world, the opportunity to invest in Canada, they keep focusing on their ideology
00:10:33.360 and just not getting things done for Canadians with serious consequences for Canadians with no part of our economy left untouched from, as you mentioned, cost of living, gas, but also housing.
00:10:45.840 We have a housing crisis in this nation right now.
00:10:48.700 I touched upon supply chain.
00:10:50.120 We haven't even got to labor shortage, which makes everything else more expensive.
00:10:53.600 So, you know, every single step of the way, they are not thinking about business in Canada, the Canadian economy.
00:11:00.340 They're focused on their ideology and, frankly, maintaining power, as Melissa alluded to.
00:11:06.780 I mean, the NDP has lost all credibility at this point because you can't be in a relationship of supply and confidence on one side
00:11:15.200 and then stand up and criticize them in question period on the other side. 0.96
00:11:18.600 It's absolutely ridiculous. 0.81
00:11:20.700 So they're able, you know, they're able to write as many checks as they want and they've done that. 0.95
00:11:27.460 And, again, the losers are everyday Canadians because, as you indicated, no one is investing in here in Canada at this time.
00:11:36.240 Yeah, it is really so.
00:11:36.960 You want to add to that?
00:11:37.540 I will.
00:11:37.780 I'll say this.
00:11:38.800 How do you do so little with so much in this country?
00:11:43.360 I mean, that's the real question.
00:11:45.240 We have the most educated workforce.
00:11:47.460 We've got, you know, food to make us secure and feed the rest of the world.
00:11:54.480 We've got enough energy to make us independent and power the rest of the world so the dictators aren't doing it instead of us.
00:12:01.100 We've got a smart workforce.
00:12:02.740 We've got, you know, hardworking Canadians ready to, you know, to get their hands dirty.
00:12:07.500 And yet we're nowhere on the world stage and people don't look to us as a place, you know, to park their money or grow their family or even move here and have fun.
00:12:19.800 And we've got to look at that as a serious issue going forward.
00:12:24.600 We need way more people.
00:12:25.740 We need to ask ourselves what this, what the plot is here because I'm not sure that they have.
00:12:30.860 And certainly this last budget was a mishmash of a bunch of words and like a bunch of press releases stapled together.
00:12:37.500 But it certainly wasn't a visionary document, not for this government and not for this country.
00:12:42.180 Well, let's quickly touch on that and then we'll wrap up, get your final thoughts.
00:12:44.980 But when you're talking about Canada being excluded from these conversations, we've seen that a lot in the military file when Australia made a deal for nuclear submarines with the UK and Canada.
00:12:55.760 We're a Commonwealth country.
00:12:57.060 We weren't even part of that conversation.
00:12:58.660 How many security meetings took place with Ukraine and other conflicts and other situations?
00:13:03.600 Canada wasn't even invited to those conversations.
00:13:05.780 This is something that goes beyond the business market.
00:13:08.780 It goes to our relationship and, as you mentioned, Melissa, our view on the world stage.
00:13:14.320 It's damaged.
00:13:14.980 It's absolutely damaged.
00:13:16.240 You know, back in the days of the Harper administration, you had titans like my predecessor, Jason Kenney, like John Baird, who had a clear set of values for Canada, clear set of values for Canada on the world stage that included justice, democracy, human rights, the rule of law.
00:13:34.240 This government has no strategy for its foreign policy.
00:13:37.940 Again, we see it's ideological and we see that it's reactive, as we saw with the last minute trip finally this week to Ukraine.
00:13:44.820 by the Prime Minister and Foreign Affairs Minister.
00:13:46.960 I mean, this is something that should have occurred a long time ago, but they're always late to the party and they never do the right things.
00:13:54.320 And it's because, again, they have no set of values which guide them in their foreign policy the way Conservative administrations have.
00:14:01.800 Okay, we need to get out of here.
00:14:03.060 I always give the guests the final word, so Melissa, take it away. 0.98
00:14:07.060 Yeah, I'll finish on this.
00:14:09.060 You know, five eyes turned into four eyes, turned into eyes wide shut for Canada.
00:14:14.880 And at one time, I think we chose principle.
00:14:18.960 And I think these guys, these liberals have chosen popularity and you can see the damage that is done to Canada's reputation on the world stage.
00:14:27.800 And just, you know, sitting by the phone, nobody calls us anymore.
00:14:31.440 That's right.
00:14:32.100 Very sad.
00:14:32.840 Stephanie?
00:14:33.100 You know, we have a supply chain crisis, we have a cost of living crisis, we have a labor shortage crisis, we have a housing crisis.
00:14:41.640 When are Canadians going to wake up, realize the horrific situation that we are in and demand change?
00:14:49.040 Liberals and NDPs, I would say for sure.
00:14:51.420 I hope the time will come very soon because I don't think, I don't foresee things getting better with this policy that we're experiencing.
00:15:02.400 Now, I also don't think the NDP or Liberal really care about the working Canadian population anymore.
00:15:08.160 It just doesn't seem that way.
00:15:08.960 We're going to be their voice.
00:15:09.980 Absolutely, we are going to be their voice.
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00:15:18.540 That was Melissa Lansman, the Member of Parliament for Thornhill, also the Transport Critic.
00:15:23.020 There we go.
00:15:23.460 Tongue-tied at the end.
00:15:24.500 Stephanie Cusey, Member of Parliament for Calgary.
00:15:26.980 Mindipore, also the Critic for Employment, Workforce Development, and Disability Inclusion. 0.63
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