The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - February 26, 2018


Trudeau offside with ISIS comparison and his lack of leadership

Topics
mistreatment of minorities trans-mountain pipelines
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Jamie Schmal
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Justin Trudeau Tony Clement Bob Soroya Colin Carey Dan Albus Kinder Morgan Burnaby Merritt Oshawa Notley Andrew Scheer Fidel Castro Keystone XL John Horgan Mark Strahl Ben Albus Yazidis Torrey Menard
MP Kent’s Pay It Back campaign Budget 2018： Trudeau’s budget fails Canadians

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Justin Trudeau equates returning ISIS fighters with immigrants in a bizarre comparison made during a town hall style Q&A session in which he was asked a question about returning terrorists. The Prime Minister responded to the question by saying, "Well, you know, we've got these returning terrorists, and most countries are arresting them when they return."

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00:00:00.000 It's The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Clement. On today's show,
00:00:04.800 we have Colin Carey and Bob Soroya, both MPs, talking about how ISIS fighters are like immigrants.
00:00:11.280 That's according to Justin Trudeau. And then we're going to talk to
00:00:14.180 Dan Albus, the MP for Central Okanagan, about the Trans Mountain Pipeline. Stay tuned.
00:00:23.320 You're listening to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:00:26.460 Is the Prime Minister actually saying that taxpayers should be on the hook when he breaks the law?
00:00:40.040 What is it going to take for the Prime Minister to have any respect for any laws in this country
00:00:46.220 that may curb his out-of-control behavior?
00:00:50.200 All these deficits leading to nothing but burying Canadians in taxes.
00:00:56.460 And now, here's your host, Tony Clement.
00:01:05.060 Welcome to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your host, Tony Clement, Member of Parliament.
00:01:09.840 We've got a great show for you today, and I've got two amazing guests with me.
00:01:14.140 First, I've got Colin Carey, the MP for Oshawa, and Mr. Bob Soroya, the MP for Markham-Unionville.
00:01:19.780 Gentlemen, welcome to the show.
00:01:21.000 Glad to be here, Tony.
00:01:21.920 We're going to be talking a little bit about, as our first topic, the series of town halls
00:01:27.340 that Mr. Trudeau, as the Prime Minister, did throughout the country.
00:01:31.480 The one in particular that hasn't had as much, maybe, you know, insight into it,
00:01:38.820 or people have not commented as much on the surface, but underneath the surface,
00:01:43.020 has really turned a lot of heads.
00:01:45.860 On February 2nd, during a town hall at McEwen University in Edmonton,
00:01:51.160 the Prime Minister was talking, I guess, was asked a question about returning ISIS fighters
00:01:56.220 and made a very strange comparison between returning ISIS fighters and other groups in our society.
00:02:05.880 So I'm going to give it to Colin first, and then, Bob, maybe you can comment a little bit.
00:02:09.340 Tell us a little bit about what happened and what the reaction has been.
00:02:13.660 Well, I think the reaction is shock when people heard the Prime Minister try to equate, you know,
00:02:19.700 Italian refugees, Portuguese, Ismailis coming to Canada with returning ISIS supporters and terrorists. 0.71
00:02:29.300 These individuals from ISIS, they're not fleeing persecution. 0.81
00:02:33.500 They are the persecutors.
00:02:34.840 So to think that the Prime Minister is out there promoting rehabilitation of these individuals,
00:02:42.380 we know as a conservative government, we gave them the tools in order to prosecute these individuals,
00:02:47.980 and instead he wants to put Canadian taxpayers' dollars into reintegration with these podcasts and poetry.
00:02:55.060 It's outrageous.
00:02:56.440 Because that was the context of the question.
00:02:58.200 It was, hey, you know, we've got these returning ISIS fighters.
00:03:01.440 Most countries are arresting them when they return, and yet Canada has this kind of pie-in-the-sky, hippy-dippy approach
00:03:08.280 where they're going to say, oh, if you see a few podcasts or read some poetry,
00:03:14.900 maybe that'll be part of your treatment, as it were.
00:03:17.880 Oh, yeah, and it's almost as if the Prime Minister thinks that ISIS is a unique culture.
00:03:22.440 Now, unless you support the culture of genocide, these people are maniacal perpetrators of the most offensive acts. 0.99
00:03:32.880 They've raped and murdered women in front of their children. 1.00
00:03:37.020 They've thrown homosexuals off buildings. 1.00
00:03:40.580 Ismailis, they've butchered them. 1.00
00:03:42.560 Or any pious Muslim who wants to practice their religion, anything different than ISIS. 0.99
00:03:48.040 And these are the people that the Prime Minister is equating with refugees and immigrants who came to this country to build it.
00:03:56.560 And it's just shocking.
00:03:57.860 It would be laughable if it wasn't so outrageous.
00:04:00.580 Greek community, Portuguese.
00:04:01.200 He specifically mentioned Greek, Portuguese, Vietnamese, Italian communities.
00:04:06.080 Those were the ones he was equating with returning ISIS fighters.
00:04:10.080 Absolutely.
00:04:10.800 Just watch the video.
00:04:12.560 Bob Soraya, you've probably heard some feedback on this.
00:04:15.520 So what are people saying about this comparison of the Prime Minister?
00:04:18.740 First of all, thank you, Tony.
00:04:20.660 It was a simple question from a father when he talked about the safety of his kids, especially for his girls, 10 years, 15 years, 20 years down the road.
00:04:32.620 It was a simple question from the man's heart, from the person's heart.
00:04:37.020 And Mr. Trudeau didn't have the answer, as always, didn't have the talking points.
00:04:45.620 He went to the left when he started talking.
00:04:48.480 Yeah, this was off the top of his head.
00:04:50.320 This is the thing.
00:04:50.940 This is when you hear the real Justin Trudeau.
00:04:52.840 Tony, we all know when he doesn't have the talking point, this is what he does.
00:04:56.620 This is what he's best with.
00:04:58.100 So he started talking with the Greeks, Italians, Portuguese.
00:05:01.360 When they came back from the Second World War, they were mistreated.
00:05:06.240 This is not the question.
00:05:07.800 The question was simply when those people are coming back from Syria, Iraq, or wherever they're coming from, those are the bad people. 1.00
00:05:16.620 It's a genuine concern from the father.
00:05:20.280 It's a lot of people in my writing ask on a daily basis, why are we paying them?
00:05:25.940 How do we integrate, I think is the word he's using, how do we teach them?
00:05:33.000 They're the murderers. 0.94
00:05:34.000 They're the rapists. 1.00
00:05:35.840 Azizi, Assyrians, all the minorities in the Middle East, they're mistreated. 1.00
00:05:42.540 They're murdered.
00:05:42.940 He tried to wipe them all out, didn't he?
00:05:44.220 He wanted to wipe them all out.
00:05:46.460 So the question was simple.
00:05:48.240 Mr. Trudeau didn't have the answer, so he went to this side.
00:05:52.020 What a answer.
00:05:54.880 What a answer.
00:05:56.560 I think he also talked about he was a bouncer in the bar.
00:06:03.800 What the heck bouncer have to do in this equation?
00:06:07.240 Yeah, I know he always likes to talk about aspects of his past, even if it's completely irrelevant.
00:06:12.000 You probably heard these numbers as well, but the numbers are quite striking that the federal government is aware of approximately 180 individuals with a nexus to Canada who were abroad and who were suspected of engaging in terrorism-related activities and a further 60 extremist travelers who have returned to Canada.
00:06:39.340 So this is not a theoretical question.
00:06:41.340 This is a question that Canadians – you mentioned, Bob Soroya, people in your riding.
00:06:46.100 Canadians are wondering, how are we going to be protected?
00:06:49.480 What's the stance of the government?
00:06:51.100 Bob?
00:06:51.980 Torrey, a few years back, I bumped into somebody from the Iranian background.
00:07:00.120 He mentioned something that I could never think like this.
00:07:04.800 He said there was 17 people in 9-1-1.
00:07:08.720 They brought America to their knees, if we can use that word, or they were hurt.
00:07:16.560 9-11, right.
00:07:17.360 In about 17 people.
00:07:19.680 If you have 120 of those people, God, people have to be concerned, people have to be scared.
00:07:27.240 It's not scare-mongering.
00:07:29.940 This is the reality.
00:07:31.380 If it's 100 people, 150 people, 180 people, what will they do?
00:07:36.080 Will they get the signal from wherever they're getting the signal, either from Afghanistan or wherever they get the signal?
00:07:44.600 It is a scary moment in my mind, and it's scary stuff, what I hear from the road, from my constituency, and many, many others.
00:07:53.880 Colin, any further response that you've heard from people, any reaction that you've heard?
00:07:58.720 Oh, absolutely, and I agree 100% with Bob.
00:08:01.300 I think people realize these are Canadians that left our country, that agreed to take up arms against Canadians and our allies, that participated in these atrocities.
00:08:12.580 And now, for some reason, Justin Trudeau thinks a Canadian's a Canadian, a Canadian.
00:08:18.040 They're going to let these people back here. 1.00
00:08:20.100 To think that you can reintegrate these people is incredibly naive.
00:08:24.640 It's putting our communities at risk.
00:08:26.600 And I've got to tell you, Tony, this past weekend, I was at the Italian Club in Oshawa.
00:08:31.200 And I won't repeat some of the things that were said, but they're aware of these comparisons.
00:08:35.380 I had an elderly guy come up to me and said, I came here legally.
00:08:39.100 I came here because I wanted to be a better country and contribute to Canada.
00:08:43.320 And he has.
00:08:44.080 They've been the builders of this country.
00:08:46.260 Literally the builders.
00:08:47.380 Literally.
00:08:47.960 Construction.
00:08:48.360 And in my community, more than many others.
00:08:51.160 And to equate the contributions of these communities, these cultures that came to Canada, and kind of compare the culture of ISIS to be equivalent in any way whatsoever is so offensive.
00:09:04.780 He should be apologizing.
00:09:06.360 And he should be taking Canadian resources to help support the victims of ISIS, like the Yazidis, and not be giving it to rehabilitate people that are unrehabilitatable.
00:09:17.800 These are people, I've got to tell you, they went overseas to fight against us.
00:09:22.460 And now that they've lost, they want to come back to be safe.
00:09:25.240 They want our health care.
00:09:26.200 They want our education.
00:09:27.480 And they want it all for free so they can be safe here to continue to build on their insane ideology.
00:09:34.300 Let me read.
00:09:35.320 I want to put on the record the actual quote from Justin Trudeau.
00:09:38.540 So first of all, the man in the audience said to Mr. Trudeau, and this is a quote,
00:09:43.520 I just want to know how your stance on ISIS is going to help Canadians in any way.
00:09:48.840 I need to know how you're going to protect future Canadians like my young daughter and, you know, 10, 15, 20 years from now when you're letting people in with an ideology that just does not conform to what we're doing here.
00:10:01.880 Mr. Trudeau replied, absolutely.
00:10:03.800 No, I think that's um, gives me an opportunity to talk about, first of all, the fact that one of the reasons Canada is successful as a country is because we have been open to people fleeing persecution, fleeing war zones, looking for a better life for themselves and their kids.
00:10:21.260 That's been the story about how this country from the time the first European settlers came to be received by indigenous peoples.
00:10:27.380 And then he goes into the Vietnamese boat people, the Greek communities, the Portuguese, the Italian community, and so on. 0.91
00:10:33.840 So he, this is the point, he conflated, he confused ISIS where they, and the question was about how we are going to be safe from ISIS returnees to people fleeing persecution in previous conflict.
00:10:49.780 But this is how he thinks every time he gets off script, just like Bob was saying.
00:10:54.000 This is the same guy that said he admires the basic dictatorship of China.
00:10:58.660 This is the same guy that said he admires Fidel Castro as a great leader.
00:11:03.600 Somebody who, oh my gosh, somebody who killed literally thousands and thousands of his own people.
00:11:10.160 This is the guy that says we have to rethink things like space and time.
00:11:14.420 This is how the individual thinks.
00:11:16.200 And for the leader of our country to give a glimpse into his mind, I think it's, all of us, very important that we pay attention to this, the way he thinks at our own peril.
00:11:25.580 I'm going to give Bob Soraya the last word here.
00:11:28.820 Tony, I was born in India and I lived most of my life here.
00:11:32.900 I understand these people, they have a mindset.
00:11:36.840 We are the non-believers.
00:11:38.220 It doesn't matter what do we do to make them get better.
00:11:42.660 What formula, Mr. Trudeau, will use to get them better?
00:11:46.960 What formula does he have in his sleeves so he can give them some tablet or whatever the thing he can give them?
00:11:53.960 They said they're cured.
00:11:55.400 It's an impossible task.
00:11:57.860 It hasn't worked throughout the world.
00:12:00.840 It would not work in this country.
00:12:03.020 And it is a scary moment what I hear from it, I think.
00:12:08.240 Well, gentlemen, thank both of you.
00:12:09.420 I want to thank Colin Carey, the MP for Oshawa, and Bob Soraya, the MP for Markham-Unionville.
00:12:14.540 I don't know what Justin Trudeau thinks about space and time, but I do know that our space and time is limited.
00:12:19.260 So thanks for coming on the program.
00:12:20.720 It's great to have you.
00:12:21.500 Thanks, Tony.
00:12:22.160 Thank you, Tony.
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00:12:41.820 And now, back to The Blueprint, and your host, Tony Clement.
00:12:47.540 Welcome to The Blueprint, Canada's Conservative Podcast.
00:12:50.320 I'm your host, member of Parliament, Tony Clement.
00:12:52.360 And it's great to have you as part of our podcast universe.
00:12:57.580 We're going to talk about pipelines right now, specifically trans-mountain pipelines,
00:13:01.820 although the Prime Minister was confused in the House of Commons today.
00:13:04.220 He's answering questions about Keystone XL for some reason.
00:13:07.060 But we're talking about trans-mountain and how important it is.
00:13:09.800 And our special guest for this segment of the program is Mr. Dan Albus,
00:13:13.640 the Member of Parliament for Central Okanagan Simokameen Nicola.
00:13:17.880 Thank you for being on the show, Dan.
00:13:19.300 And why don't you bring us up to date a little bit on what's going on with this trans-mountain pipeline issue?
00:13:24.000 Well, it really comes down to the nature of a horse, a vacuum.
00:13:27.960 So when you have a Prime Minister that is not giving, whether it be the Premier of Alberta,
00:13:34.460 confidence that he will stand up to the jurisdictional interference by Premier John Horgan,
00:13:42.740 who hails from British Columbia, the challenge is...
00:13:46.920 And you're a British Columbian yourself.
00:13:48.040 Well, this is what happens.
00:13:50.380 This is why elections are so important, because you get these big swings,
00:13:54.880 and it's lost by a few votes here and there.
00:13:58.720 But getting back to it, the Prime Minister has created a vacuum of leadership.
00:14:02.780 Premier Notley obviously wants to win her next election.
00:14:05.660 She knows Alberta's fortunes, her political fortunes are tied to the building of Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain,
00:14:11.120 which goes through my writing, and I'm very happy to support.
00:14:14.840 But she is obviously, you know, slinging at British Columbia by banning BC wine. 0.99
00:14:22.580 And that's the problem here, and that's why last night we actually voted on a motion
00:14:27.560 that the Prime Minister needs to present a plan.
00:14:30.640 And this was like a Conservative Party motion in the House?
00:14:32.420 Yes, Shannon Stubbs sponsored it, great member from Alberta.
00:14:35.800 I was glad to support it, because I have vintners in my area that, you know,
00:14:41.160 if action isn't taken immediately, it's going to cause some of them to go bankrupt.
00:14:46.660 The larger wineries, I'm sure, are going to be fine.
00:14:48.640 They can find other channels.
00:14:49.660 But, you know, this is a business where, you know, if you can't deliver a product,
00:14:53.880 restaurants are going to switch to a different wine.
00:14:56.320 And, you know, some have contractual obligations,
00:14:59.260 that they've got to get their product to Alberta, and they can't get it.
00:15:02.460 And so that's why this is so serious, and that's why last night we asked the Prime Minister
00:15:08.020 to show a plan to get Kinder Morgan started, and Liberals voted against it.
00:15:13.600 So this is something, Tony, that's in international interest.
00:15:18.240 The Prime Minister at least has said that.
00:15:20.260 But now it's becoming the question about the rule of law as well.
00:15:23.020 Are we going to allow premiers to basically push into the federal jurisdiction,
00:15:27.360 or will the Prime Minister assert that this project will actually get done
00:15:31.840 and not just talk about it?
00:15:33.100 So let's unpack this a little bit, because the Liberals are out there saying,
00:15:36.920 the federal Liberals are saying,
00:15:38.220 hey, look, we're for Trans Mountain Pipeline.
00:15:41.440 We gave it the go-ahead.
00:15:43.880 But really, in essence, nothing is happening.
00:15:47.320 There's no federal leadership on the file,
00:15:48.980 and you've got two provinces duking it out
00:15:51.000 with different visions of what to do with this pipeline.
00:15:55.380 And so really, it's not really a priority of the Liberal government
00:15:58.800 except to talk about it a little bit.
00:15:59.880 Well, you know, if you look at Energy East,
00:16:01.960 you know, you had Liberal members of Parliament
00:16:03.720 saying to their own constituents during the last election
00:16:06.260 and up until the point that the project was cancelled
00:16:08.660 that they were fully in support.
00:16:11.000 But I will tell you this,
00:16:12.140 is that there are many British Columbia MPs
00:16:14.260 who do not want the Prime Minister to mention the name
00:16:16.900 Kinder Morgan or Trans Mountain in their writings.
00:16:19.060 But this is one of those things
00:16:21.240 that the Prime Minister has said it's in the national interest.
00:16:24.840 Well, he needs to go to places like Burnaby
00:16:27.000 and convince the people in Burnaby
00:16:29.480 that this is in the national interest
00:16:32.020 and that it is illegal for any other government
00:16:36.080 to subsume and take away from the federal jurisdiction on this.
00:16:39.620 Because this lack of leadership, and you alluded to this,
00:16:43.420 is creating a situation.
00:16:44.740 It's not only, obviously, it's affecting oil and gas
00:16:47.760 and the future of oil and gas investment in this country,
00:16:51.020 but now it's a trade war.
00:16:53.180 So the wineries, the vintners in British Columbia
00:16:56.740 are dragged into this too.
00:16:58.640 This is not getting any better.
00:17:00.220 It's getting worse for the economy.
00:17:01.480 No, and again, yesterday there was a throne speech
00:17:03.960 in British Columbia,
00:17:05.440 and the New Democrats, supported by the Greens,
00:17:07.900 have said that they're going to continue
00:17:09.180 in the throne speech.
00:17:10.400 They said they're going to continue to raise consultations
00:17:15.040 on what kind of oil products can go through British Columbia.
00:17:20.260 And again, that's why we're calling the Prime Minister
00:17:23.280 to clearly come out.
00:17:25.020 And let's put it this way.
00:17:26.260 Businesses, they want two things.
00:17:28.540 They want opportunity, but they also need certainty.
00:17:31.680 And a big part of certainty means
00:17:33.000 they know that when they make an investment
00:17:34.720 that they're going to be able to see that investment go through.
00:17:38.740 They have to have faith that the regulators
00:17:41.220 and the governments that regulate the regulators,
00:17:44.440 so to speak, are going to do what they say
00:17:47.060 and aren't just going to leave them hanging in the wind.
00:17:49.320 That's what Justin Trudeau is doing right now.
00:17:51.380 That's why Premier Notley's created this wine ban. 0.93
00:17:54.940 That's why, you know, BC wineries right now,
00:17:58.260 small businesses are hurting.
00:18:00.020 And just another note is that when you look at it,
00:18:03.500 there's a lot of investment from the oil sands,
00:18:05.800 from people who have done well there,
00:18:06.860 who have come to British Columbia and invested in our wineries.
00:18:10.180 So they're only hurting themselves.
00:18:11.420 That's very interesting.
00:18:12.340 Yeah.
00:18:12.820 So I'm talking with Dan Albus, by the way,
00:18:15.080 the British Columbia MP,
00:18:16.880 talking a little bit about the issue
00:18:19.020 about the Trans Mountain Pipeline,
00:18:20.460 which is going bigger because of the lack of leadership
00:18:24.040 from Mr. Trudeau and the federal liberals.
00:18:26.100 So, I mean, where do you see this going?
00:18:28.220 I mean, without federal liberal leadership,
00:18:31.020 and we've been out there as the Conservative Party of Canada
00:18:33.620 saying, look, we need to solve this issue.
00:18:36.080 This is in the national interest that it precedes.
00:18:38.180 That the science is there,
00:18:40.080 the economic requirement of how this is going to help Alberta
00:18:44.520 and British Columbia,
00:18:45.480 and Ontario even, as an Ontarian.
00:18:47.580 I know that there's Ontario companies
00:18:49.320 that will get some positive benefits
00:18:51.280 in terms of jobs and opportunity because of the pipeline.
00:18:53.800 So where does this go from here
00:18:54.900 without liberal federal leadership?
00:18:56.640 Well, again, I go back to the argument,
00:18:58.380 if people don't feel that you're going to follow up
00:19:02.220 with your language with actual walk,
00:19:04.740 then eventually they'll just lose confidence
00:19:06.720 and they just won't build it.
00:19:07.760 And it's not just about this pipeline,
00:19:09.520 it's about future national initiatives.
00:19:12.300 Absolutely.
00:19:12.980 Again, if the prime minister cannot show,
00:19:14.840 and again, there's different tools at his disposal.
00:19:18.240 Again, he could go to court seeking an injunction
00:19:20.820 or he could use the not very much used
00:19:23.860 trade and commerce clause in the Constitution.
00:19:25.720 But ultimately, you can have tools.
00:19:28.640 But if people don't even think you will use them,
00:19:31.520 that the will will be there,
00:19:33.060 then they'll find some other place to invest.
00:19:35.620 And that is the problem because we lose jobs,
00:19:37.800 we lose opportunity, governments lose tax revenue,
00:19:41.020 it's bad for them.
00:19:41.700 And we'll still see that Alberta oil
00:19:44.180 being trucked through other means,
00:19:46.440 whether it be on trucks or whether it be on rail cars,
00:19:49.080 which is far less safe.
00:19:50.760 And I think if you talked to most British Columbia
00:19:52.400 and gave them the option,
00:19:53.260 they'd want a newer pipeline with better protections
00:19:56.840 assured with that rather than the status quo.
00:20:00.280 And I think that's what we need to consider.
00:20:02.280 Many mayors, like the mayor of Merritt,
00:20:05.640 Mayor Menard has said that this is in the national interest,
00:20:09.340 it's good for jobs,
00:20:10.520 it's good for the community of Merritt,
00:20:11.800 they're supportive of it.
00:20:13.140 They want to see this project go forward.
00:20:15.140 So this is not just where those liberal
00:20:19.440 and New Democrats MPs are nowhere to be seen.
00:20:22.660 And that's why I'm very proud that Andrew Scheer,
00:20:25.480 our conservative leader,
00:20:26.580 has stood up to the prime minister on this.
00:20:28.440 I'm happy that Shannon Stubbs, Mark Strahl,
00:20:31.240 both from Alberta and B.C.,
00:20:32.860 are voicing concerns for jobs on both sides.
00:20:35.640 This is one of those things that we need to keep pushing on.
00:20:38.140 Ben Albus, thanks for joining us here.
00:20:40.020 It's great to have you as part of the National Caucus.
00:20:42.820 And let's hope that we get some sanity
00:20:45.880 when it comes to a natural resource development policy
00:20:49.160 in this country,
00:20:50.080 rather than what is at risk,
00:20:52.360 not only the economy,
00:20:53.440 but really we're going to have national unity fights again,
00:20:56.940 not a good place for Canada to be.
00:20:58.900 So let's hope for the best.
00:21:00.300 Thank you for joining us,
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