The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - February 10, 2021


Vaccine Procurement


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In this episode, we have a special guest on the show, a member of Parliament from Quebec, and the Shadow Minister for Public Services and Procurement, Jean-Pierre Paul Charles, who joins us to talk about the vaccine pandemic and the government's failure to get enough vaccines into the provinces and territories.

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00:00:00.000 hello and welcome once again to the blueprint it is canada's conservative podcast i'm your host
00:00:10.400 jamie schmail member of parliament for halliburton for the lakes brock thank you once again for
00:00:14.960 joining us you are the hardcore you are sticking with us you want to hear that conservative message
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00:00:36.100 like cast box itunes google play spotify you name it it is out there and again we have a great show
00:00:42.840 new content every single tuesday 1 30 p.m eastern time we do not rest we have a member of parliament
00:00:49.620 from quebec i think the first time on this show believe it or not pierre paul who's who we also
00:00:54.720 call as pph for short he's the member of parliament for charbourg haute saint charles and the shadow
00:01:00.980 minister for public services and procurement we thank you very much for your time oh thanks thanks
00:01:06.800 to jamie for having me with you today now of course the big talk right now is the vaccines and and how
00:01:12.060 canada has been or specifically justin trudeau and his cabinet has been stumbling upon the rollout of
00:01:18.980 the vaccines not only that securing the proper amount of vaccines we just have note that canada
00:01:23.860 has vaccinated less than three percent of his population many countries are way ahead of us
00:01:28.660 uh we're looking at this article here from the economist who says that virtually all of europe
00:01:34.280 will be vaccinated by the end of this year and it's saying canada can hope for mid 2022 we just heard
00:01:40.320 200 000 job losses last month our economy is hurting the anchors of it in natural resources
00:01:47.940 has been shut down by this government and and now we have another kick to the the the the the way to
00:01:56.840 get back on track is to get us vaccinated we've also we'll talk about the disaster which has been
00:02:02.120 rapid testing which we've been calling for for quite some time so what what do you think pph what
00:02:07.680 do you think the the the announcement that they they can't seem to get the required amount of
00:02:13.500 vaccines into canada what what's that going to do for for our country oh thanks for the question
00:02:19.200 jimmy so you know if you want to reopen the economy we need to be vaccine whatever you want it or not
00:02:26.400 it's the the only way to to change things and to get back to a normal life so uh and the problem is
00:02:33.280 with this government justin trudeau he didn't uh manage the file properly so it's a it's a shame
00:02:40.380 actually we uh we need vaccine we need it as soon as possible and uh you know they prefer to start
00:02:47.660 the last year you know when we begin the pandemic and and before before continuing so i think people
00:02:55.020 listening today they understand that english is just my first language and i'm from quebec i'm not
00:02:59.840 a separatist i'm a conservative member of parliament but i'm not used to speak english but so thank you
00:03:05.320 to having me and uh i hope people will understand so uh to continue you know last year the jimmy
00:03:12.060 justin trudeau preferred to to start negotiating with chinese government they have a deal with cancino
00:03:19.680 and that deal broke and then uh it's why we're late it's why we're behind the fight actually
00:03:26.860 now according to government documents we're expected to get some some vaccinations or vaccines
00:03:34.920 in the coming weeks so what does that mean what what are we talking about in terms of getting it to
00:03:40.000 the provinces and territories for the actual needle in arm part of it but so the problem is we uh the
00:03:47.820 canada negotiated the contracts on quarterly basis instead of monthly or weekly so it's why actually
00:03:55.980 when jocelyn trudeau said oh we will receive six million dollars that's fine but we don't know if
00:04:03.120 how many in january february march so actually maybe we will receive six million dollars till the
00:04:08.980 end of march but how can the provinces manage the situation they don't have any vaccine now they wait
00:04:16.180 but they don't know how many doses when so this is a problem and if we compare with other countries
00:04:22.500 i have the contracts of astrazeneca with the ua and uh in that place they negotiated monthly basis so
00:04:31.200 it's easier to to plan for the provinces especially and it's why there's a lot there's a lot of problem
00:04:38.620 the contract how many doses and especially when that's a good question that's a good point you make
00:04:45.840 because the the deals that the government are making are confidential and the government minister
00:04:51.880 has refused to actually publish those documents widely and it's estimated about 4.6 billion dollars
00:05:02.580 in contracts with these manufacturers have been it been put forward now when when we're talking about
00:05:10.200 the vaccination rollout the government keeps saying by the end of september every canadian who wants
00:05:15.820 a vaccine will get the vaccine is that realistic at this point actually actually we we uh we don't
00:05:23.980 think so because we need from now to receive 2 million doses each single week till september and for now
00:05:32.980 we just receive 1.1 million doses and then we don't know exactly how many we'll receive next week and
00:05:40.080 the next month so if we don't receive it 2 million doses a week from now it won't it will be impossible
00:05:48.520 to be vaccine uh till the end of september like trudeau uh tried to say and um and it's a it's a huge problem
00:05:57.000 you know jimmy because without vaccine it's impossible to think to reopen the economy and so it will be it will
00:06:04.880 become uh more uh we'll say i think struggle struggle uh situation for canadians
00:06:11.640 so as we mentioned we talked about the the 200 000 unfortunate job losses during the month of
00:06:19.440 january for this country and i think that's hurting a lot of people most of the job losses have been
00:06:24.080 in ontario and quebec ontario where i'm from quebec where you are from they're seeing that that hardest
00:06:29.800 hit so we we learned a few weeks ago when we had uh stephanie cusey on the the shadow minister for 1.00
00:06:37.240 transport when the government decided they're going to change the rules regarding travel
00:06:41.360 we of course have called right almost at the beginning of the pandemic for stricter controls
00:06:48.680 at the border rapid testing at the border more emphasis being put on those coming back and forth
00:06:54.540 now this gets put on people at the last minute many people are struggling to figure out
00:06:59.540 what is going on the rules very inconsistent so maybe you can compare to us i guess the government's
00:07:06.540 response then and now to the pandemic oh good question you know last year he went here ago and
00:07:14.980 i mean i'll say january 30 i was uh that time the public safety shadow minister and i've been to the
00:07:23.240 health committee to ask some questions to the officials and to minister and my question my first question
00:07:29.040 was why you don't close the border at that moment he said oh no this is not uh that virus is not so
00:07:35.260 bad everything's fine i said okay but but we we saw the other countries they are closing border and here
00:07:42.940 in canada at that moment we don't have any single case and they didn't want to to do anything
00:07:49.500 okay so a few few letters a few weeks after and a few months we're still asking to close the border and they decide to close the
00:07:56.500 border in march but i keep asking questions and i said okay you said you closed the border but you don't have any tests you
00:08:04.120 don't have any personnel from health canada at the airport we don't understand and we asked question to the uh canadian borders uh cbsa
00:08:11.500 cbsa agent so did the guy said we just give information to the passengers coming in canada but we don't have any
00:08:18.640 other control so it's been a shame you know for months the canadian government didn't do anything
00:08:26.220 very strong on the border and the first and you know the border is their first defense
00:08:32.420 against uh against covid 19 and we we missed it okay speaking of the border this is something we
00:08:40.680 called for early on is the focus because we didn't at the time have a cure vaccine or treatment for the
00:08:49.300 covid uh virus we had called for the implementation in a very real and meaningful way of rapid testing
00:08:56.900 whether at the border or within the community in general because if you are able to identify
00:09:02.020 those that have covid you can take them out of circulation into isolation and therefore without
00:09:08.700 a cure vaccine or treatment allow people to to kind of get the economy get back go back on track and
00:09:15.720 moving again and again we've had tests that were approved very quickly by the european union many of
00:09:23.400 which identify that as the gold standard the united states has approved way more rapid testing companies
00:09:30.860 but yet canada has fallen behind in that category as well maybe you can unwrap that for us
00:09:37.060 yes and you know jamie at each single step of the the pandemic canada was always been always
00:09:45.340 been behind you know it's a the us uk it's the european union always been front of the parade so uh
00:09:54.540 we don't know why and we ask for we push a lot on on the government to to have the rapid testing rapid test
00:10:01.140 uh as soon as they've been uh authorized in the u.s i asked a question i said okay if the u.s
00:10:06.820 tries that test why our canadian agency cannot look for the you know the the checklist and then okay
00:10:14.700 to approve it as soon as possible so this government always been so slow on this situation and you know
00:10:21.740 like for us as a member of parliament actually we cannot go in ottawa we cannot be on the house of
00:10:28.640 comments do our job asking questions they want us you know spare everywhere in canada in front of a
00:10:36.420 computer and why don't have a rapid testing for member of parliament as an example and as well for
00:10:41.840 businesses so with rapid testing we know we're clear go do your job it's the same for the and then i
00:10:47.840 know everything been late and we don't understand how this government work what do you have to say
00:10:53.740 about the the government which announced i guess a week or so ago that they're going to purchase
00:10:59.340 almost two million of the vaccine doses from covax which is a global vaccination program sponsored by
00:11:07.120 the world health organization basically taking these vaccines that are meant for the the poorer
00:11:13.780 countries if you will and taking those doses and bringing them to canada to make up for the
00:11:20.480 failures on behalf of of the liberal government that again as you mentioned off the top put all of
00:11:26.160 their eggs in the cancino basket yeah good question jimmy at last week two weeks ago when we knew about
00:11:34.200 that that the fact that the government will pick some vaccine from covax yes we paid for yes i understand
00:11:40.660 that the government of canada paid 440 million dollars in covax but it's for the pure countries
00:11:48.800 that third the uh from africa mostly in north south america and then because trudeau start negotiated
00:11:58.880 with the cancino at the beginning the deal broke then been late to negotiate with pfizer moderna
00:12:06.120 astrazeneca it's why we need we don't have our vaccines for now and it's a shame to put his hand
00:12:13.660 on the i'll say that the the the the jar and that took some vaccine from covax because at the end of the
00:12:21.220 day yes canada want to be we want to be vaccine as soon as possible but also the pure country if they still
00:12:27.740 have the virus uh the virus will stay alive so we need to vaccine all the entire world but uh it's not
00:12:38.500 uh the way to i take i mean it looks cheap i think it's a good word it's cheap from canada to put some
00:12:47.160 money to help these countries and then took vaccine on the back well i think it's even worse too that and
00:12:54.380 we're seeing a screenshot of it now uh what the what the liberal government's been doing but in
00:12:59.660 terms of total percentage of population uh vaccinated i think we're somewhere around the
00:13:05.000 with myanmar which is undergoing a coup right now and they're doing a better job at obtaining
00:13:10.640 vaccines and getting them in the arms of people which i think is is is totally frustrating to to
00:13:16.980 those who have lost a job or actually want to get back to their lives and just be normal again
00:13:21.620 oh yes actually uh from today i think we are 36th position in the world uh we are
00:13:28.580 than the g7 countries we're not the last one japan is last one but japan don't have any
00:13:34.160 that they don't have the virus in japan so it's why they just start to vaccine their people they don't
00:13:39.980 have the same pressure you know uh so it's uh we don't we can't compare with japan but if we don't
00:13:45.840 have japan we are the last one from the g7 country countries and also in the world
00:13:51.360 the smaller country do better than than us we are we are actually very in a bad position in canada
00:13:57.500 because we deal we have some deals with the phaser in europe instead of have some having some deal
00:14:04.280 with phaser in the u.s you know the in the u.s phaser have a plant in michigan it's 250 kilometers
00:14:11.200 from canadian border but we can't have i mean we can't have some doses from phaser in the u.s why
00:14:19.960 we don't understand so we have to deal with 27 countries in the in europe they all want the the
00:14:27.240 the phaser dose in first so uh again it's a it's a mess and but you know as conservative we were
00:14:35.780 complaining against rudow yes but we don't just we're not just complaining we proposed last year
00:14:41.820 a lot of solution for our government to help canadians because at the end of the day what
00:14:47.180 we all want is to be vaccine and to restart the economy it's why we're pushing on that government
00:14:53.140 it's the the only thing actually we can do is to push push push propose solution but justin
00:14:58.700 tru don't want to listen to the opposition party now pph you're a former member of the canadian
00:15:05.340 armed forces i believe if memory serves a lieutenant colonel if i'm not mistaken so thank you for your
00:15:10.560 service um i think that's why uh on on the positive side we see that in ontario and the military which
00:15:18.260 is very good at actually uh implementing and and kind of figuring out complex situations and and letting
00:15:25.380 it go and actually planning for worst case scenarios uh that's why they've been brought in and and i say
00:15:31.100 in this case and many others to to actually implement the vaccine distribution but the problem is
00:15:37.180 we don't have any vaccines exactly you know you you don't have the ammunition to fight so without
00:15:44.740 ammunition you stay set on your on your chair and you wait and is this is a huge problem a huge problem
00:15:51.700 and it's why uh i don't know our justin to work i don't know if he calls he took the phone take the
00:15:59.220 phone call the the the chair of the each companies i don't know our relation with the uh european
00:16:05.940 countries but all that we want is to have some solutions and as soon as possible i'll say right now
00:16:14.100 absolutely now you've been on the show on the french version of the blueprint with your
00:16:19.580 your first time i believe on the the english version you've done an amazing job we thank you
00:16:25.880 very much but i always give our guests the final words so is there anything else you'd like to say
00:16:31.180 before we sign off here i just want to say so thank you for your patience patience with my english but as
00:16:37.680 you know i am a proud canadian like you i speak french first but i'm i'm glad to to be here with you
00:16:44.560 today as a proud canadian and there are a conservative absolutely there are lots of
00:16:50.120 conservatives in the great province of quebec and we appreciate all the work you're doing pph on on
00:16:55.480 the vaccine front as your previous role as shadow minister for public safety and security you're doing
00:17:00.260 a great job and thank you for your service to our country in the canadian armed forces thank you
00:17:05.760 okay pierre paul hoose the member of parliament for charbourg haute saint charles and the shadow
00:17:11.660 minister for public services and procurement we really appreciate his time talking about what
00:17:16.680 canada is doing wrong and what we should do better in terms of securing doses of the vaccine
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