The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - We have a spending problem.

00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your

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00:00:17.760 subscribe and share this program. Lots of new information for you. Today we're talking about

00:00:23.140 the Liberals going deeper and deeper into your pockets. Another tax increase, this time with

00:00:28.840 the capital gains to talk about this and much, much more. We have Michelle Rempel-Garner, 0.99

00:00:32.940 the member of Parliament for Calgary Nose Hill. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:00:36.380 Thanks for having me.

00:00:37.560 All right. Let's roadmap how we actually got here. The capital gains itself. Why don't you

00:00:42.560 tell us how we got to the point where the government, which is never had more money

00:00:47.360 in terms of revenue coming in, because of course they printed money and the taxes and everything,

00:00:52.320 but we have a spending problem. But roadmap us how we got here with the capital gains.

00:00:58.000 Well, I mean, I think we have to start by stating a fact. The government is broke,

00:01:01.840 like super broke. Everybody knows the Prime Minister has doubled Canada's debt in the time

00:01:08.780 he's been in office. Our deficits are out of control. Even in six weeks between when we see

00:01:14.660 one report in terms of the size of a deficit that's been projected to another update, you're

00:01:19.980 seeing sometimes fluctuations of $10 billion in increase. So they're broke. They don't have

00:01:25.060 money to spend. So, and the other thing that, I mean, politically, I think that everybody needs

00:01:30.740 to understand about what we're about to talk about is the Liberals are desperate too, right?

00:01:34.720 People have really, putting it mildly, given up hope on them. They don't trust them anymore.

00:01:40.580 And they're desperate. They're looking for a political narrative. And so what do they do when,

00:01:45.340 what do Liberals always do when they're desperate and broke? It's wedge politics, right?

00:01:49.420 Right. So that's really where we're at on this policy. So they're trying to position this tax as

00:01:57.560 a good thing. And I'm really excited that people aren't buying it because it's another tax on

00:02:02.680 everything. So, you know, without getting into all the technicalities on this tax, because anybody who

00:02:09.320 it applies to, they kind of understand it, right? But how it affects everybody is like, this is going

00:02:15.160 to affect healthcare providers at a time when we have a huge healthcare shortage. Like, I don't know

00:02:21.040 about you. I don't have a family doctor. I know a lot of your constituents probably don't. Yeah,

00:02:25.040 it's tough. So this is going to dramatically impact healthcare providers. We're hearing a lot of

00:02:30.760 doctors saying that they might not be able to stay in Canada at a time when we can't attract enough

00:02:35.580 doctors. It's going to affect farmers at a time when we're having, you know, record food prices. So it's

00:02:41.740 probably going to drive food prices up. It affects home builders, right? So, you know, I don't know,

00:02:47.440 I have lots of small businesses in my riding, people who run small cribbing crews or framing crews.

00:02:53.800 It's going to affect those people at a time when we need to do what? Build more houses. And like,

00:02:59.300 I could go on, but the point is, is that they are broke. They're looking for a way to get revenue

00:03:04.760 that they clearly don't have. But while shrinking the Canadian economy and making life more

00:03:11.160 expensive for people. So this is just a huge tax grab. It's, they're trying to wedge Canadians

00:03:17.240 on this. But I think it's really, I don't know about you, I haven't had a lot of people emailing me

00:03:24.400 going, oh yeah, this is great. Actually, a lot of people united and saying, you can't let this pass.

00:03:30.760 I've never voted Conservative, but like, I cannot let this pass. And anyone making an investment that

00:03:37.200 would be then subject to a capital gains tax makes that investment with after tax dollars.

00:03:43.280 So you've already paid the tax. You've already done your penance to government, right? You've given

00:03:48.380 them your tax and you're trying to make a go of it and not be so dependent on the government for

00:03:53.980 certain things, right? You want to create a future, right?

00:03:56.560 Absolutely. And, and that's one example. You know, we're talking about healthcare providers,

00:04:02.720 the people that we depend upon to, you know, treat our kids ailments. They're, they don't get

00:04:08.680 maternity leave from the government. They, they don't get certain types of benefits that others 0.78

00:04:14.480 do. And I'm not saying that they're not well compensated, but this is a structure that they

00:04:18.680 depend upon to provide services to us. And what the government, what the Liberals are saying right

00:04:23.820 now is they don't matter. They don't count. And that impacts everybody in our community, right?

00:04:28.860 Because if you can't see a doctor, I mean, we are arguably already can't see a doctor. This is only

00:04:33.840 going to make it worse. And again, like there's such a wide breadth of services that this is going to

00:04:39.900 impact. And at a time when we need to be pulling the country to more together, be more unified, this is

00:04:45.540 just a divisive tax grab. It's not, I'm not going to say it's a tax grab. It's a, it's a, it's theft, I

00:04:50.520 almost would say. And it's going to increase the cost of living for a lot of, and lower the,

00:04:55.620 the standard of living for a lot of Canadians. Yeah. That's the, that's the part that is going

00:04:59.840 to continue to get just, it's already rolling down a very dangerous hill. I think this just

00:05:06.800 speeds it up. And at the same time, the government's solution to all of this is another government

00:05:11.600 program, right? We've seen that with the whole slew they've just laid out, right? It's we'll fix the

00:05:16.800 problem with another government program. I'm so glad you brought this up because this is,

00:05:21.960 this is where they're trying to create a false narrative to drive a wedge. And anybody who's

00:05:26.540 listening to this needs to understand the politics of what they're trying to do. So they're doing

00:05:30.420 exactly what you just said. They're trying to hoodwink Canadians and say, look, if we take all of this

00:05:36.080 money, if we take all of this money from all of these people, somehow that's going to magically make

00:05:41.640 life better for other Canadians. But when has Justin Trudeau ever made anybody's life better?

00:05:46.840 Honestly? No, no. I mean, I mean, like any metric in Canada, our standard of living is worse. Crime,

00:05:54.720 home affordability, food affordability, whatever you, you, you choose it. I think the, you know,

00:06:00.140 there was a lot of controversy a year and a half ago for people saying Canada's broken,

00:06:04.140 Canada's broken and it's broke. So, you know, Justin Trudeau doesn't make your life better. So for them

00:06:08.940 and for Chrystia Freeland, the finance minister to come out and say, oh, well, you know, this is going

00:06:13.620 to make people's lives better. It doesn't. No. So, so I think Canadians need to understand that when

00:06:20.920 Justin Trudeau comes out and tries to say that by him taking more of your money or their money,

00:06:28.100 that somehow he's going to magically make life better, they have to, like the proof's in the pudding.

00:06:32.300 He hasn't done it yet. He shouldn't be trusted. And we've got to oppose this. We have to oppose it hard.

00:06:36.700 Yeah. As you said, right off the top of many times, it's, it's wedge politics, right? It's class

00:06:41.300 warfare. Once you start going after people with, with stuff, so to speak, in their language,

00:06:46.500 eventually you run out of people with stuff, right? Or the next person in line becomes the

00:06:50.400 wealthy that you then go after, right? Because the middle just keeps getting pushed and pushed

00:06:54.720 and pushed. Why don't we queue up cut one? Let's have Chris. This is great. This is going to cringe.

00:06:59.400 I know you don't like this clip, but. No, I don't. I don't. But I think like explaining what this

00:07:04.120 clip is, is important. So this is the Liberals' narrative. This is how they're trying to explain

00:07:09.680 and hoodwink to Canadians on why they need to steal more of their money. All right. Play cut one.

00:07:15.600 But I would also like to ask Canada's 1%. In fact, Canada's 0.13% to consider this.

00:07:28.600 What kind of a Canada do you want to live in? Do you want to live in a country where kids go to 1.00

00:07:36.120 school hungry? Do you want to live in a country where a teenage girl gets pregnant 1.00

00:07:42.740 just because she doesn't have the money to buy birth control? 1.00

00:07:50.260 Okay. Those are problems created by the Liberals.

00:07:52.820 Yes! You got to affordability.

00:07:53.680 Yes! You can't afford food.

00:07:54.680 You can't afford the basic necessities.

00:07:57.800 So you had the same reaction I did.

00:07:59.380 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:08:00.120 So she gave this, so this is a speech she gave, I think this week when she's reannouncing

00:08:04.620 this tax, trying to wedge us and Canadians. But she also gave a similar speech in the actual

00:08:09.880 budget speech where she says, what kind of Canada do you want to live in? And then goes

00:08:14.160 through these lists of things where I'm like, girl, this is already happening and it's your

00:08:18.780 fault. It's your fault. Literally, it's actually her fault. She is the one who printed money out

00:08:24.860 of control. These crazy deficits that, like, why? Massive deficits that went to, like, the

00:08:34.360 We Charity scandal and the Arrive scam app and, like, corporate welfare after elite slush fund

00:08:40.100 after bad contract after, like, we can't even keep up on trying to stay on top of all their

00:08:46.400 waste. And now she's saying, what kind of Canada do you want to live in? Well, I want to live

00:08:50.360 in a Canada where she is no longer in charge of the federal budget, where Justin Trudeau

00:08:55.300 is nowhere near the levers of power and where we have some common sense, conservative principles

00:09:01.040 on how Canadians can get ahead. And I think, sorry, that was such a cathartic.

00:09:06.380 No, that was beautiful. I like that.

00:09:08.320 But, like, I guess this is a bridge into our leader's response, Pierre Polyev's response

00:09:13.780 yesterday. So he got up in the House of Commons and I think the Liberals were expecting, I don't

00:09:19.160 know what they were expecting out of us. I think they, they, I'm sure they had a whole range, but

00:09:25.600 they just weren't sure because I don't think they, they are sure of themselves on this policy.

00:09:30.280 A hundred percent. But then he got up and he just level-headed, listed why everything that

00:09:36.900 they're doing is wrong. He stated all of these facts with regard to the economy, Canadian standard

00:09:41.140 of life. And then he offered this really strong alternative plan. And I thought it was great.

00:09:45.900 I would love to hear what you thought.

00:09:49.100 Yeah, I think the way he laid it out is just like, as we keep saying, common sense, right? Like,

00:09:54.180 I think a lot of people are wondering, like, the world doesn't make any sense anymore thanks to

00:09:58.460 Justin Trudeau, right? Like, up is down, left is right. Like, he has just made a mess of everything.

00:10:03.720 And, and just to hear Pierre Polyev speak and lay out a plan that brings some, some sense of reality

00:10:10.960 to this government. It's, it's refreshing in my opinion.

00:10:14.680 And, and one of the things I really appreciated that he laid out in that plan was that once he

00:10:20.480 becomes prime minister, within the first 60 days, he would put together a panel of entrepreneurs,

00:10:27.100 of farmers, of small business owners, to look through the tax code, which is Canada's tax code

00:10:33.520 is so complicated. And he, everybody knows that and come up, like do a whole, a whole review of this

00:10:39.980 and then come up with a, a, a, a really common sense tax cut that, that touches a lot of different

00:10:46.000 areas. Right. And, you know, he, he, he has this ability to, to make language like really complicated

00:10:53.100 concepts really simple. And in that speech, he said, you know, look, we're going to make,

00:10:58.100 we're going to do this so that it's easier for Canadians to make stuff so that it's easier for

00:11:02.980 Canadians to afford stuff. Then you contrast that with, you know, the hyperbole coming out of

00:11:08.780 Christia Freeland and just like the gall, right? I'm trying to say like, it's like, again, the call

00:11:14.600 is coming from inside the house. This is your fault. I, it was a, it was a clear contrast. And it's one

00:11:20.160 that I know that will be communicating strongly to Canadians. And that's why, you know, if anyone's

00:11:25.300 listening to this, it's important to share this type of content so that others know that there

00:11:29.980 is a clear choice in the next election. And even with that panel you were talking about,

00:11:34.620 maybe a super producer, Nick can put up the graphic while we talk. The panel that you were talking

00:11:39.920 about, it's like of normal people, right? It's not a bunch of Ottawa elites or heads of corporations.

00:11:46.020 We're talking about normal on the ground people actually doing the work.

00:11:50.660 No lobbyists. He specifically said no lobbyists.

00:11:52.960 No lobbyists. Let's hear common sense from a farmer on the ground. Let's hear from a small business owner

00:11:57.880 struggling under the weight of this government. Let's hear the examples on the ground, not from the big

00:12:03.940 corporate leaders.

00:12:05.140 And also like, like to your point, I think that they have insulated themselves from average Canadians. 0.72

00:12:12.160 And they, I think they honestly think that A, this is a great strategy. It's not. And B, that somehow,

00:12:18.380 I almost think they have drank their own Kool-Aid a little bit on this and think that this is a good thing.

00:12:23.020 This is really like their caucus, their liberal backbench, they have to stand up to this.

00:12:28.440 Like, and the NDP do as well too. So like, I know, are you, you're getting a lot of emails and feedback about this.

00:12:36.440 Do you want to spend a little bit of time talking about how people can help us fight back?

00:12:39.540 Absolutely. Because these aren't just the elites, the finance minister. These are normal people,

00:12:46.500 right? Plumbers, electricians, like normal people looking to secure their future.

00:12:51.820 Yeah. And again, I think just as we get into how people can help us fight back,

00:12:55.540 it's important to note that, you know, they're saying that this is only going to affect a few

00:13:00.500 Canadians. That's a lie. It's a flat out lie. It's going to affect so many Canadians in so many ways.

00:13:06.020 So it is important. Like, obviously we're going to fight this very strongly, but the community needs to put pressure

00:13:11.840 on the NDP and the Liberals to say that this is wrong. We've seen them walk things back occasionally before.

00:13:17.940 They've got, if people want this walk back, they have to start lighting up the phones, email boxes of Liberal and NDP MPs

00:13:25.120 with stories about how this is affecting their lives and push that. There is an opportunity, I understand,

00:13:32.900 because like, even though that there's a motion that's gone through the House, which sort of sets the terms

00:13:37.240 without getting into technicalities for this tax to take hold as of June 25th, the Liberals still have to put in place

00:13:43.980 legislation that has to pass the House of Commons that would then be essentially retroactive, right?

00:13:49.580 So there is an opportunity to influence the government on this. And like this summer, like starting today,

00:13:57.540 call a Liberal MP. If you live in a Conservative riding, don't worry, we've got your six. We are going

00:14:02.080 to oppose this. That's what we're going to be doing all summer. But they need to start calling and emailing

00:14:06.820 Liberal MPs and just explain to them why this is a bad thing.

00:14:11.960 Yeah, it's strength in numbers. And as you just pointed out, we need to show that it's just not a certain

00:14:17.380 small group of people, like the Liberals are pointing out. It is everyday people in ridings,

00:14:23.140 in, you know, just trying to make a go of it in this environment, which has just been

00:14:27.440 just very brutal for a lot of people. There's a lot of misery out there.

00:14:31.980 Groceries, rent, mortgages, etc. So they get your voices heard. Talk to your MPs.

00:14:38.640 Michelle, we're pretty much out of time. Sorry.

00:14:40.880 That was a good rant. It was like a therapy session.

00:14:43.040 Well, I'm going to give you a chance to let some more out because the guests always get the last word.

00:14:48.480 So the floor is yours.

00:14:49.400 I would just say this. We are, I know you and I and the rest of our team are getting inundated on this

00:14:55.660 issue from people who are just like, we cannot let this pass. It comes on top of, you know, huge tax

00:15:02.700 increases like the carbon tax that we've been appealing. It comes at a time when life is not

00:15:07.700 affordable for Canadians. So this is just, for me, an appeal to anyone who is listening to this.

00:15:14.080 If you've never written a Liberal MP, if you've never written an NDP MP before, now is the time

00:15:19.380 and start saying, look, and find somebody who lives in those ridings and get them to write to

00:15:26.340 their MPs too, so that we can pressure the government to change course on this just like

00:15:31.720 wedge, divisive, bad policy before it's too late. And of course, always share and subscribe.

00:15:39.180 Help us get the words out, the word out. It is Justin Trudeau's censorship bills make it very

00:15:44.460 difficult for us to communicate. So sharing this content really helps us fight back.

00:15:49.420 Actually, that's a very good point. Not only are they taking your money, they're actually

00:15:52.500 hampering your ability to hear messaging that is a little different from the Liberal narrative.

00:15:57.060 And they expect us to stay quiet. When people stay quiet and don't challenge them,

00:16:00.800 they ram this stuff through. So it is time to get loud. And that would be my last word.

00:16:05.920 I like how you think. I like how you think. Write your Liberal MP. Tell your friends. Maybe

00:16:10.520 they have a family member in a Liberal writing. They need to hear this message because there is

00:16:14.580 a small window. There is maybe an opportunity to change this. Let's get these voices heard.

00:16:19.700 All right. Michelle Rempel-Gardner, thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it.

00:16:23.440 It was a lively conversation. I had so much more to talk to you, but unfortunately, the clock

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The Blueprint: Canada's Conservative Podcast - August 13, 2024

We have a spending problem.

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