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Today we re talking about the Liberals going deeper and deeper into your pockets, another tax increase, this time with the capital gains tax. Michelle Rempel-Garner, the Member of Parliament for Calgary Nose Hill joins us to talk about this and much more.
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Hello and welcome once again to The Blueprints. This is Canada's Conservative Podcast. I'm your
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subscribe and share this program. Lots of new information for you. Today we're talking about
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the Liberals going deeper and deeper into your pockets. Another tax increase, this time with
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the capital gains to talk about this and much, much more. We have Michelle Rempel-Garner,
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the member of Parliament for Calgary Nose Hill. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
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All right. Let's roadmap how we actually got here. The capital gains itself. Why don't you
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tell us how we got to the point where the government, which is never had more money
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in terms of revenue coming in, because of course they printed money and the taxes and everything,
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but we have a spending problem. But roadmap us how we got here with the capital gains.
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Well, I mean, I think we have to start by stating a fact. The government is broke,
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like super broke. Everybody knows the Prime Minister has doubled Canada's debt in the time
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he's been in office. Our deficits are out of control. Even in six weeks between when we see
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one report in terms of the size of a deficit that's been projected to another update, you're
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seeing sometimes fluctuations of $10 billion in increase. So they're broke. They don't have
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money to spend. So, and the other thing that, I mean, politically, I think that everybody needs
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to understand about what we're about to talk about is the Liberals are desperate too, right?
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People have really, putting it mildly, given up hope on them. They don't trust them anymore.
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And they're desperate. They're looking for a political narrative. And so what do they do when,
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what do Liberals always do when they're desperate and broke? It's wedge politics, right?
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Right. So that's really where we're at on this policy. So they're trying to position this tax as
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a good thing. And I'm really excited that people aren't buying it because it's another tax on
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everything. So, you know, without getting into all the technicalities on this tax, because anybody who
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it applies to, they kind of understand it, right? But how it affects everybody is like, this is going
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to affect healthcare providers at a time when we have a huge healthcare shortage. Like, I don't know
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about you. I don't have a family doctor. I know a lot of your constituents probably don't. Yeah,
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it's tough. So this is going to dramatically impact healthcare providers. We're hearing a lot of
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doctors saying that they might not be able to stay in Canada at a time when we can't attract enough
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doctors. It's going to affect farmers at a time when we're having, you know, record food prices. So it's
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probably going to drive food prices up. It affects home builders, right? So, you know, I don't know,
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I have lots of small businesses in my riding, people who run small cribbing crews or framing crews.
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It's going to affect those people at a time when we need to do what? Build more houses. And like,
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I could go on, but the point is, is that they are broke. They're looking for a way to get revenue
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that they clearly don't have. But while shrinking the Canadian economy and making life more
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expensive for people. So this is just a huge tax grab. It's, they're trying to wedge Canadians
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on this. But I think it's really, I don't know about you, I haven't had a lot of people emailing me
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going, oh yeah, this is great. Actually, a lot of people united and saying, you can't let this pass.
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I've never voted Conservative, but like, I cannot let this pass. And anyone making an investment that
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would be then subject to a capital gains tax makes that investment with after tax dollars.
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So you've already paid the tax. You've already done your penance to government, right? You've given
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them your tax and you're trying to make a go of it and not be so dependent on the government for
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certain things, right? You want to create a future, right?
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Absolutely. And, and that's one example. You know, we're talking about healthcare providers,
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the people that we depend upon to, you know, treat our kids ailments. They're, they don't get
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maternity leave from the government. They, they don't get certain types of benefits that others
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do. And I'm not saying that they're not well compensated, but this is a structure that they
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depend upon to provide services to us. And what the government, what the Liberals are saying right
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now is they don't matter. They don't count. And that impacts everybody in our community, right?
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Because if you can't see a doctor, I mean, we are arguably already can't see a doctor. This is only
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going to make it worse. And again, like there's such a wide breadth of services that this is going to
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impact. And at a time when we need to be pulling the country to more together, be more unified, this is
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just a divisive tax grab. It's not, I'm not going to say it's a tax grab. It's a, it's a, it's theft, I
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almost would say. And it's going to increase the cost of living for a lot of, and lower the,
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the standard of living for a lot of Canadians. Yeah. That's the, that's the part that is going
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to continue to get just, it's already rolling down a very dangerous hill. I think this just
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speeds it up. And at the same time, the government's solution to all of this is another government
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program, right? We've seen that with the whole slew they've just laid out, right? It's we'll fix the
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problem with another government program. I'm so glad you brought this up because this is,
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this is where they're trying to create a false narrative to drive a wedge. And anybody who's
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listening to this needs to understand the politics of what they're trying to do. So they're doing
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exactly what you just said. They're trying to hoodwink Canadians and say, look, if we take all of this
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money, if we take all of this money from all of these people, somehow that's going to magically make
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life better for other Canadians. But when has Justin Trudeau ever made anybody's life better?
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Honestly? No, no. I mean, I mean, like any metric in Canada, our standard of living is worse. Crime,
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home affordability, food affordability, whatever you, you, you choose it. I think the, you know,
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there was a lot of controversy a year and a half ago for people saying Canada's broken,
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Canada's broken and it's broke. So, you know, Justin Trudeau doesn't make your life better. So for them
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and for Chrystia Freeland, the finance minister to come out and say, oh, well, you know, this is going
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to make people's lives better. It doesn't. No. So, so I think Canadians need to understand that when
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Justin Trudeau comes out and tries to say that by him taking more of your money or their money,
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that somehow he's going to magically make life better, they have to, like the proof's in the pudding.
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He hasn't done it yet. He shouldn't be trusted. And we've got to oppose this. We have to oppose it hard.
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Yeah. As you said, right off the top of many times, it's, it's wedge politics, right? It's class
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warfare. Once you start going after people with, with stuff, so to speak, in their language,
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eventually you run out of people with stuff, right? Or the next person in line becomes the
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wealthy that you then go after, right? Because the middle just keeps getting pushed and pushed
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and pushed. Why don't we queue up cut one? Let's have Chris. This is great. This is going to cringe.
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I know you don't like this clip, but. No, I don't. I don't. But I think like explaining what this
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clip is, is important. So this is the Liberals' narrative. This is how they're trying to explain
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and hoodwink to Canadians on why they need to steal more of their money. All right. Play cut one.
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But I would also like to ask Canada's 1%. In fact, Canada's 0.13% to consider this.
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What kind of a Canada do you want to live in? Do you want to live in a country where kids go to
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school hungry? Do you want to live in a country where a teenage girl gets pregnant
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just because she doesn't have the money to buy birth control?
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Okay. Those are problems created by the Liberals.
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So she gave this, so this is a speech she gave, I think this week when she's reannouncing
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this tax, trying to wedge us and Canadians. But she also gave a similar speech in the actual
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budget speech where she says, what kind of Canada do you want to live in? And then goes
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through these lists of things where I'm like, girl, this is already happening and it's your
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fault. It's your fault. Literally, it's actually her fault. She is the one who printed money out
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of control. These crazy deficits that, like, why? Massive deficits that went to, like, the
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We Charity scandal and the Arrive scam app and, like, corporate welfare after elite slush fund
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after bad contract after, like, we can't even keep up on trying to stay on top of all their
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waste. And now she's saying, what kind of Canada do you want to live in? Well, I want to live
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in a Canada where she is no longer in charge of the federal budget, where Justin Trudeau
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is nowhere near the levers of power and where we have some common sense, conservative principles
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on how Canadians can get ahead. And I think, sorry, that was such a cathartic.
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But, like, I guess this is a bridge into our leader's response, Pierre Polyev's response
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yesterday. So he got up in the House of Commons and I think the Liberals were expecting, I don't
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know what they were expecting out of us. I think they, they, I'm sure they had a whole range, but
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they just weren't sure because I don't think they, they are sure of themselves on this policy.
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A hundred percent. But then he got up and he just level-headed, listed why everything that
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they're doing is wrong. He stated all of these facts with regard to the economy, Canadian standard
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of life. And then he offered this really strong alternative plan. And I thought it was great.
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Yeah, I think the way he laid it out is just like, as we keep saying, common sense, right? Like,
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I think a lot of people are wondering, like, the world doesn't make any sense anymore thanks to
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Justin Trudeau, right? Like, up is down, left is right. Like, he has just made a mess of everything.
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And, and just to hear Pierre Polyev speak and lay out a plan that brings some, some sense of reality
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to this government. It's, it's refreshing in my opinion.
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And, and one of the things I really appreciated that he laid out in that plan was that once he
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becomes prime minister, within the first 60 days, he would put together a panel of entrepreneurs,
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of farmers, of small business owners, to look through the tax code, which is Canada's tax code
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is so complicated. And he, everybody knows that and come up, like do a whole, a whole review of this
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and then come up with a, a, a, a really common sense tax cut that, that touches a lot of different
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areas. Right. And, you know, he, he, he has this ability to, to make language like really complicated
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concepts really simple. And in that speech, he said, you know, look, we're going to make,
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we're going to do this so that it's easier for Canadians to make stuff so that it's easier for
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Canadians to afford stuff. Then you contrast that with, you know, the hyperbole coming out of
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Christia Freeland and just like the gall, right? I'm trying to say like, it's like, again, the call
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is coming from inside the house. This is your fault. I, it was a, it was a clear contrast. And it's one
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that I know that will be communicating strongly to Canadians. And that's why, you know, if anyone's
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listening to this, it's important to share this type of content so that others know that there
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is a clear choice in the next election. And even with that panel you were talking about,
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maybe a super producer, Nick can put up the graphic while we talk. The panel that you were talking
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about, it's like of normal people, right? It's not a bunch of Ottawa elites or heads of corporations.
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We're talking about normal on the ground people actually doing the work.
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No lobbyists. He specifically said no lobbyists.
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No lobbyists. Let's hear common sense from a farmer on the ground. Let's hear from a small business owner
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struggling under the weight of this government. Let's hear the examples on the ground, not from the big
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And also like, like to your point, I think that they have insulated themselves from average Canadians.
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And they, I think they honestly think that A, this is a great strategy. It's not. And B, that somehow,
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I almost think they have drank their own Kool-Aid a little bit on this and think that this is a good thing.
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This is really like their caucus, their liberal backbench, they have to stand up to this.
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Like, and the NDP do as well too. So like, I know, are you, you're getting a lot of emails and feedback about this.
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Do you want to spend a little bit of time talking about how people can help us fight back?
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Absolutely. Because these aren't just the elites, the finance minister. These are normal people,
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right? Plumbers, electricians, like normal people looking to secure their future.
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Yeah. And again, I think just as we get into how people can help us fight back,
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it's important to note that, you know, they're saying that this is only going to affect a few
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Canadians. That's a lie. It's a flat out lie. It's going to affect so many Canadians in so many ways.
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So it is important. Like, obviously we're going to fight this very strongly, but the community needs to put pressure
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on the NDP and the Liberals to say that this is wrong. We've seen them walk things back occasionally before.
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They've got, if people want this walk back, they have to start lighting up the phones, email boxes of Liberal and NDP MPs
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with stories about how this is affecting their lives and push that. There is an opportunity, I understand,
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because like, even though that there's a motion that's gone through the House, which sort of sets the terms
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without getting into technicalities for this tax to take hold as of June 25th, the Liberals still have to put in place
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legislation that has to pass the House of Commons that would then be essentially retroactive, right?
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So there is an opportunity to influence the government on this. And like this summer, like starting today,
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call a Liberal MP. If you live in a Conservative riding, don't worry, we've got your six. We are going
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to oppose this. That's what we're going to be doing all summer. But they need to start calling and emailing
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Liberal MPs and just explain to them why this is a bad thing.
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Yeah, it's strength in numbers. And as you just pointed out, we need to show that it's just not a certain
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small group of people, like the Liberals are pointing out. It is everyday people in ridings,
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in, you know, just trying to make a go of it in this environment, which has just been
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just very brutal for a lot of people. There's a lot of misery out there.
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Groceries, rent, mortgages, etc. So they get your voices heard. Talk to your MPs.
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Michelle, we're pretty much out of time. Sorry.
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That was a good rant. It was like a therapy session.
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Well, I'm going to give you a chance to let some more out because the guests always get the last word.
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I would just say this. We are, I know you and I and the rest of our team are getting inundated on this
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issue from people who are just like, we cannot let this pass. It comes on top of, you know, huge tax
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increases like the carbon tax that we've been appealing. It comes at a time when life is not
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affordable for Canadians. So this is just, for me, an appeal to anyone who is listening to this.
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If you've never written a Liberal MP, if you've never written an NDP MP before, now is the time
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and start saying, look, and find somebody who lives in those ridings and get them to write to
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their MPs too, so that we can pressure the government to change course on this just like
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wedge, divisive, bad policy before it's too late. And of course, always share and subscribe.
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Help us get the words out, the word out. It is Justin Trudeau's censorship bills make it very
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Actually, that's a very good point. Not only are they taking your money, they're actually
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hampering your ability to hear messaging that is a little different from the Liberal narrative.
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And they expect us to stay quiet. When people stay quiet and don't challenge them,
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they ram this stuff through. So it is time to get loud. And that would be my last word.
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I like how you think. I like how you think. Write your Liberal MP. Tell your friends. Maybe
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they have a family member in a Liberal writing. They need to hear this message because there is
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a small window. There is maybe an opportunity to change this. Let's get these voices heard.
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All right. Michelle Rempel-Gardner, thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it.
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It was a lively conversation. I had so much more to talk to you, but unfortunately, the clock
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