The Candice Malcolm Show - May 30, 2025


$486 BILLION?! Carney’s First Budget BLOWS Past Expectations

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Join Candice and Chris as they discuss Andrew Lawton's maiden speech to the House of Commons, his new role as a member of Parliament, and his plan to spend $486 billion in the upcoming federal budget.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode. Happy
00:00:06.500 Friday, everyone. Hopefully you have a wonderful weekend planned ahead of you. I'm very pleased
00:00:11.020 to be joined by one of my favorite guests here on The Candice Malcolm Show, talking
00:00:13.780 about Chris Sims. She is the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. And
00:00:18.040 Chris, you co-hosted our, or you helped co-host our election night show. So I think you were
00:00:22.320 on at the very beginning, and then like eight hours later, you did the last hour with us.
00:00:26.240 So fun bookend on that end. But I want to first welcome you to the show. We're going
00:00:31.620 to talk about Carney's spending plan, which is unbelievable. But first, we thought we
00:00:36.440 would share this with the audience. Andrew Lawton, former journalist and colleague here with
00:00:41.620 me and at True North. He is now a member of Parliament, as you know, and he made his maiden
00:00:46.040 speech to the House of Commons. He slammed the Liberals' renewed sense of patriotism, saying
00:00:51.740 that he was always waving the Canadian flag proudly. Let's play that clip.
00:00:55.620 Unlike Liberals who wrap themselves in the flag when it is politically convenient, I am not
00:01:04.280 a fair-weather patriot. And we will always, on this side of the aisle, Mr. Speaker, stand
00:01:10.160 up for Canada and be proud in our Canadian identity and proud of our country. I do not take the
00:01:16.580 fair-weather patriots, those with their newfound celebration of Canadianism, with their flags
00:01:22.540 still creased and wrapped in plastic, practically, as they seek to lecture Canadians on what it
00:01:28.680 means to be an elbows-up Canadian. Mr. Speaker, I will always and have always waved the Canadian
00:01:34.360 flag proudly. And I will not stand by, will those who were denigrating people who did that
00:01:39.280 years ago claim to have the moral high ground on what it means to be a Canadian now?
00:01:43.760 So great to see Andrew out there while just doing that job. Chris, what do you make of Andrew's
00:01:50.820 election? And I guess since I haven't spoken to you since the election night, what was your
00:01:55.820 thoughts on the first few weeks of the Kearney government here? Goodness, it's been kind of a
00:01:59.220 wild ride, eh? It seems like all of us have been going kind of full throttle with work ever since
00:02:03.880 former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he was going to eventually be resigning. And I think that
00:02:08.660 was back in January. So it's been a long bit of work here for a lot of the kind of freedom-fighting
00:02:14.340 oriented type people, including people like Andrew. So I know Andrew personally. Back when you and I
00:02:20.820 were at Sun News Network together, we used to book him all the time when he had his London talk radio
00:02:25.220 show. It's going back a few years now. And so just as a human being, I'm happy for him as a friend.
00:02:31.720 And what he's saying there about the Canadian flag is so true. Even apart from the convoy,
00:02:37.080 like on July 1st, I could always count on Andrew. I could go look at his social media feeds and he
00:02:42.740 would just be like full of the Canadian flag, like wearing the hat, wearing the dorky sunglasses. It
00:02:47.880 was great. So hearing him actually express himself that way was wonderful. And in a really serious
00:02:53.120 note, I know that there's a few things that he really wants to highlight, especially for folks
00:02:58.160 who are struggling with mental illness and the options that they have that are beneficial for them.
00:03:04.180 I know this is something that's really personally important to him. And as a member of parliament,
00:03:09.900 even though he's what's called a newbie or a backbencher or whatever, when you start doing
00:03:14.440 committee work or even prep work for folks who are on committees, it gives you the ability to really
00:03:20.220 speak to experts and really connect with Canadians from all walks of life and start really digging deep
00:03:25.700 on these issues. So I just wish him all the best in that vein. I think he'll be a very responsible
00:03:30.580 member of parliament just to keep your receipts, Andrew. Sorry. Got it.
00:03:35.180 Well, I was going to say you went from being your friend to a potential adversary. I know that the
00:03:39.820 CTF's job is to keep those guys accountable, responsible, but I have a feeling you'll have
00:03:44.600 an easy job when it comes to keeping Andrew honest. Okay, let's go to the not so honest
00:03:50.340 politicians talking about the liberals who have tabled a Trudeau-sized spending plan with more to
00:03:57.140 come. This is really unbelievable. So Carney has tabled a $486 billion spending plan. Remember
00:04:05.580 last week he told us that we weren't going to get a budget, his finance minister said we weren't going
00:04:08.940 to get a budget. They got so much pushback, they decided to table the spending plan. And so here
00:04:14.340 is, I'll read a little bit from Global News. The Carney government presented parliament Tuesday with a
00:04:18.920 plan to spend about the same amount of money in the fiscal year ahead as a Trudeau government did in
00:04:23.180 its final year, about $486 billion. Spending plan is almost certain to change when it's updated in
00:04:28.800 the fall, when it's likely to include nearly $24 billion in spending commitments for this year
00:04:35.060 that the liberals promised during the election campaign. There was no evidence that the spending
00:04:39.400 plan tabled Tuesday contained, for example, $3.5 billion that campaigning liberals said they would
00:04:44.900 spend this year on trade diversification, quarters, fund during the campaign the liberals promised to
00:04:49.940 boost CBC's funding by $150 million. But in the tabled plan, CBC's budget was up just $42 million.
00:04:56.560 So presumably there's more to come. Your colleague, Chris, over at the CTF, Franco Terrazzino,
00:05:03.640 said that the federal spending in the main estimate nearly doubled in just 10 years. So in 2016,
00:05:08.820 when Justin Trudeau had initially promised that he would just run modest deficits of $10 billion before
00:05:14.460 getting back to balance, back then it was only $250 billion that we're spending. We're now spending
00:05:19.120 $487 billion, he says. Somebody take away the credit card. So what do you make of all this,
00:05:26.440 Chris?
00:05:26.820 It's really astonishing. And I don't want to blackpill people here because I know that things
00:05:32.420 have been a little rough the last few weeks when they're trying to figure out what to fight next
00:05:35.460 and how to aim for something that's positive. But I got to say, this amount of money, like $400
00:05:41.320 something billion, our national debt is like $1.2, $1.3 trillion.
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00:06:11.840 So that amount of billions is half a trillion dollars in spending. It is a mind-blowing amount
00:06:22.840 of money. And what really gets me is that I don't have very thick rose-colored glasses anymore. I've
00:06:29.960 been in the game too long. I'm very skeptical of all forms of government. But when they announced
00:06:36.940 that Mark Carney was the frontrunner of the liberals for leadership, this little teeny tiny spark in me
00:06:41.960 thought, well, at least he understands fiscal policy or monetary policy, right? The central banker
00:06:47.940 should know how to math the math. But no, the central banker is going to be worse with money
00:06:54.720 than the drama teacher. Like, I actually became more disillusioned then. So I'm just hoping that
00:07:02.620 because they're at a minority, and because we can't, we can't spend more money, we can't tax people more,
00:07:08.800 you can't get blood out of a stone, that there will be enough Canadians speak up against these MPs,
00:07:14.360 including those liberal MPs, that there'll be enough pressure put on Carney, that some form of common
00:07:19.720 sense deep down inside of him will say, you know what, I'm going to take the Paul Martin route of being a
00:07:25.100 liberal prime minister or a liberal finance minister. I'm going to take that route, and we're going to start
00:07:29.200 cutting back on spending. So I'm really encouraging people just to continue to be in the fight, keep being
00:07:34.900 vocal, because that's all we got right now.
00:07:37.160 Well, it's so true. So many people, I think even centrists and blue liberals call them, believe that Mark
00:07:43.420 Carney was a big enough change from Justin Trudeau, and that that was good enough to satiate the need for change
00:07:49.300 in the country, partially for what you just described. Like, he's a central banker. He should be able to run the
00:07:55.620 country fiscally and responsibly, and you would think that that would be his, he'd want that to be his
00:07:59.600 legacy, that his legacy would be he came in, Canada was in big trouble, and he seared the ship and got us
00:08:04.940 out of it. But yet, from this plan, it seems like, you know, his strategy is really to just double down
00:08:10.400 and do the same thing, which I think is cause for huge concern. I want to talk about the consultant
00:08:16.000 spending increases. So here we have the conservative shadow minister of finance saying this on X, saying that
00:08:22.440 liberal consulting under Mark Carney has surged to $26 billion, up from Trudeau's already bloated $19
00:08:28.260 billion. Carney says spending is focused on investing for Canadians, but is this seriously
00:08:33.080 calling billions in consulting fees an investment? This is something I don't understand, right? Because
00:08:38.060 with Justin Trudeau, it's like he grew the size of government, he increased the number of bureaucrats,
00:08:42.780 and then simultaneously, he also started using consultants, which makes no sense to me, right? Like,
00:08:47.360 why do we need consultants in government when we have the bureaucrats? And, you know, as much as we
00:08:54.020 may criticize bureaucrats in Canada, it's like, you know, they're earnest people, they show up to do a
00:08:58.100 hard-stay work day in and day out, they're committed to their job, they get paid modestly, it's not like
00:09:02.320 they're living high lives and getting rich, necessarily. Whereas a consultant, you know, I don't know what kind of
00:09:09.700 fees they're charging, and it just seems like an exorbitant expense, $26 billion in consulting when we
00:09:15.280 already have a very large civil service in Canada. Like, make it make sense to me, Chris.
00:09:20.680 I will try. So first off, on the bureaucrats, they actually do get paid quite a bit. The average
00:09:25.820 bureaucrat salary now is about $125,000 per year. I was surprised by that, too. I was assuming it would
00:09:33.520 be just under $100,000 or so, because there's going to be, like, lower-level, you know, paperwork-y type
00:09:37.700 people, and then all the way up to, like, super-specialized, like, finance people that can think in 4D
00:09:42.520 math who put together budgets. But no, the average now is over $125,000. But on your point of transparency
00:09:50.200 and accountability, like, you're bang on. Like, it is unbelievable that they are contracting out work
00:09:56.580 after they have increased the size of the bureaucracy by 99,000 people. Franco just put out a news release
00:10:05.400 today. And I made a little joke about it, but I'm Gen X, so he didn't get it. I said, oh, it's 99 red
00:10:10.860 Luftballons, right? It's 99,000 more bureaucrats added since 2015, since former Prime Minister Justin
00:10:18.080 Trudeau won that election. That's like 100,000 people. You're basically taking the population of
00:10:24.040 red deer Alberta and plunking them in to the bureaucrat desks. But on top of that, Candace,
00:10:31.260 exactly what you're saying, they're contracting out apart from that. So people who you can't
00:10:37.880 FOIP, okay? You can't get the documents that you would otherwise want to get. So say there's some
00:10:45.200 big, fancy, stupid spending project that they're doing. Say it's something like the Arrive Can app, 0.99
00:10:50.520 okay? When they contract that out to a private company or a consultant firm or whatever, and they
00:10:56.060 don't do it in-house, it is much harder to get information for taxpayers because they can try
00:11:02.920 to squish around the rules and say, oh, well, you know, it's a client or privileged information because
00:11:07.880 we can't give away competitive edge. As if there's like competitive edge for government lobbyists and
00:11:14.700 government consultants that ring around the center of power in a capital city like Ottawa. Same thing
00:11:20.100 happens in D.C. So this is to your point exactly. This is unaccountable. It's lacking in transparency,
00:11:26.300 and it's a huge waste of money. If we're hiring hand over fist extra bureaucrats for the past 10
00:11:33.040 years, get them to do the job. Why are you contracting out? Unfortunately, we know the reason why.
00:11:39.920 Quite often, because power corrupts, they'll hand out these contracts to their friends and associates,
00:11:45.480 and it's all on the taxpayer dime. Well, it really doesn't make sense. Like, I'm trying to even think
00:11:50.980 of like an example of like, what is it that they use these consultants for? Like, do you have any
00:11:56.540 ideas? Like, you have a bureaucracy. They're trained. They're specialized. They do the job in and out,
00:12:01.060 day in and day out. Like, in what scenario do you need to bring in, you know, a fancy consulting firm to
00:12:08.460 come in? It just doesn't make sense to have that. And like I said, it was 19 billion, billion with a B
00:12:14.420 under Justin Trudeau. And now it's 26 billion. Is this just like, you know, helping out their
00:12:20.960 liberal friends, like the liberal campaign? I mean, do you have any idea of like, what kind of
00:12:25.320 consulting they're doing? Great question. So I'll just give you an example from, you know, my own
00:12:30.460 field and your own field. They can hire out, for example, comms consultants and media consultants,
00:12:37.880 right? So they'll get somebody in there to do, quote unquote, media training or crisis
00:12:42.080 communication training. And they could contract something like that out of just using an example.
00:12:47.240 And so if they could say, teach the prime minister or teach the finance minister how to conduct a
00:12:51.740 better interview. Okay, guys, people who are a director of communications, you're already supposed
00:12:58.260 to be an expert in communications. That's literally why you have your job. You also have subordinates or
00:13:05.680 folks who work with you who are colleagues, like press secretaries and stuff, who are typically more
00:13:09.920 junior, okay, who are coming up through the ranks, but are still good, solid communicators.
00:13:15.480 They've worked in media, they've worked on, you know, advocacy organizations, things like that.
00:13:20.480 They've worked both sides of the fence, so to speak. They should be good enough to train up this
00:13:25.080 stuff. Apart from really rare instances, say, God forbid, there was a disaster or something really
00:13:32.460 bad had happened and it was on the government and they really needed to figure out what had happened.
00:13:36.780 Then you can understand why they'd call in, say, an investigator, right? Or a crisis communications
00:13:43.020 expert. Those are super rare instances. Why are we spending more than a billion dollars on consultants?
00:13:49.800 Again, this is what happens. It happens red team, blue team. This is an issue of power, okay? And lack
00:13:55.320 of accountability and transparency. This is what happens when you have this big pot of taxpayers' money
00:14:00.960 next to no oversight and you start handing out contracts and you start getting favors. This is
00:14:07.440 a bad thing for taxpayers. It's unbelievable. I mean, I know that there's not a lot of people who
00:14:12.300 are cheering for Donald Trump north of the border anymore, but one of the things he did at least
00:14:16.660 was bring in an outsider, Elon Musk, to like forensically look at government and look at the
00:14:22.140 low-hanging fruit and try to cut it. This seems like the lowest hanging fruit possible, $26 billion
00:14:26.840 on consulting. Well, I want to move on over to Pierre Polyev. So yesterday, Polyev released a
00:14:33.480 video saying that Mark Carney's spending is even worse than Trudeau's, despite the Liberals convincing
00:14:38.200 Canadians that they were no longer the party of reckless spenders. Let's play that clip.
00:14:42.320 Liberals are masters of symbolism. See, in the recent election, to convince people that they were no
00:14:51.320 longer the party of reckless spenders. They abruptly replaced a leader who looked like a reckless
00:14:57.380 teenage trust fund baby with a stern-looking banker. And to be fair, Mr. Carney's spending is not as bad
00:15:03.360 as Trudeau's. It's worse. And Mark Carney was elected to bring those costs down. And in the first year
00:15:09.600 after taking office, the year when you would expect him to take action against those out-of-control costs,
00:15:14.320 he actually increased them by 8%. In fact, the spending will grow almost three times faster
00:15:21.320 than the combined rate of inflation and population growth. It is a half-trillion-dollar spending bill
00:15:27.100 with no budget. Unbelievable. Polyev hits the nail right on the head there. And then earlier today,
00:15:31.960 Polyev spoke to reporters. He told them, I think this is the obvious, but this is the right thing,
00:15:37.180 that the Conservatives will not vote for this Liberal government spending plan. Let's play that clip.
00:15:41.380 It's clear that Mark Carney is even more expensive than Justin Trudeau. This half-trillion-dollar
00:15:50.160 spending bill will drive up inflation, interest rates, above and beyond what they would otherwise
00:15:55.620 be. And that is why I'm announcing today that Conservatives will vote against this half-trillion
00:16:03.780 dollars of inflationary, irresponsible, out-of-control Liberal spending.
00:16:11.940 What do you make of Polyev's response there?
00:16:14.420 Well, he's absolutely right. Like we were saying at the top of the show, this is irresponsible.
00:16:19.140 I have to stress this. 50% of Canadians, half of our population, is within $200 of insolvency
00:16:28.680 every month. Meaning they're within $200 of not being able to make the minimum payments on their
00:16:35.820 bills. That's not paying off your credit card. That's not paying off your line of credit. That
00:16:40.320 is making the minimum payment on your bills so that the repo man doesn't show up in your driveway.
00:16:45.000 Half of Canadians are in that boat right now. And a huge reason why are twofold. The crazy 0.98
00:16:51.200 carbon taxes that they nailed us with for 10 years and then conveniently got rid of just before the
00:16:56.140 election. Still happy to see those ones kind of gone right now. But two, to Pierre Polyev's point,
00:17:02.360 inflation. The inflation crisis was caused by this government's money printing and how crazy they
00:17:09.960 went during the lockdowns. If you do those two things at the same time, you lock up businesses,
00:17:16.140 you say you can't have production anymore, you halt the means of production, and you print a whole bunch
00:17:21.540 of money, that is an inflationary storm. That is why when we're looking around and we're looking at the
00:17:27.160 prices of stuff now, we're going, holy smokes, right? So he's bang on there. I will also point out
00:17:33.960 that he's correct in taking this government to task for its overspending because that is not what
00:17:40.300 they campaigned on. The language they were talking about was being more fiscally prudent. That the
00:17:46.480 era of that guy in the sneakers who's showing up, the running shoes in the Senate chamber like he did
00:17:52.420 during the King's speech, that's over. We're down to the adults being back in the room now. You can put
00:17:58.540 over that persona because Prime Minister Mark Carney certainly wasn't wearing running shoes to listen to
00:18:03.520 the King. But then you can also, with the numbers, make that match your persona. Why don't they rein in
00:18:09.720 spending? Why don't they have their finances match the image that they're trying to put forward here
00:18:15.500 with Carney? And again, I'm pleading with him because he's not a constant seasoned politician, so maybe he's
00:18:22.820 not as cynical. Maybe we can appeal, okay, to his own better judgment because he was the Bank of Canada
00:18:29.960 governor under Harper. He was there with the late Jim Flaherty. So he does have that teeth cutting. He
00:18:38.280 does have those bones in there somewhere. So let's hope that he kind of sobers up and realizes, hey,
00:18:44.540 wait a minute, I'm the smart one in the room. All you goofballs here in the cabinet minister, you've 0.97
00:18:49.820 been screwing it up for the past 10 years. I'm going to go my own way and make more fiscally 0.98
00:18:54.040 responsible decisions. I will also point out that Pierre Polyev has my books. That's nice to see.
00:18:59.000 That's the Alberta, basically the history of Alberta set book that was put forward by the
00:19:03.560 Biefeld family and the Western Standard Alberta report kids.
00:19:07.800 Wow. Well, I'm glad to hear that he's reading your book. And yeah, hopefully they can have a
00:19:11.920 positive influence on Carney because, I mean, during the election campaign, he did run basically as a
00:19:18.560 conservative. Like he took a whole bunch of platform pieces from the conservative tidbits. So I'm actually
00:19:23.540 genuinely surprised to see this sort of reckless Trudeau-esque budget. And hopefully your advocacy
00:19:31.080 over there at CTF can knock some sense into them. Okay, we're going to go from bad to worse when it
00:19:35.360 comes to members of parliament and political parties. Over to the Green Party, Elizabeth May really 0.99
00:19:40.540 outdoing herself with this one. She calls for the recognition of gay genocide. According to this 0.95
00:19:48.560 petition that Elizabeth May has sponsored, it claims that Canada is committing 2SLGBTQIA plus
00:19:57.180 genocide. Okay. The petition accusing Carney, sorry, accusing Canada of carrying out a genocide
00:20:04.180 against the countries. I'm just going to say gay because I don't want to read out that acronym 0.97
00:20:07.300 again, but you know what I mean. The country's gay community has received support of the Green Party
00:20:11.940 leader despite backing the petition. Elizabeth May said that she did not actually mention it upon her
00:20:17.120 return. This is according to Blacklock's reporter. So I didn't understand what they were talking
00:20:21.860 about. So I went and I looked at the actual petition itself. Here it is on our Commons website. Petition
00:20:27.540 E6497. It says, currently the human rights of Canadian gay community are endangered by any Canadian 0.64
00:20:35.840 organization and political party. We, the undersigned residents of Canada, call upon the government to
00:20:40.560 declare the removal of Canadian federal rights and freedoms of the gay target group to be considered a form
00:20:49.640 of genocide as a practice diminishes the community of people and therefore should be declared illegal by
00:20:56.880 anyone attempting to do so and to ensure that their human rights. So if I get this right, they say that
00:21:02.900 their rights and freedoms are being targeted and that is a form of genocide. I don't even know if they have
00:21:10.080 examples. I don't understand what this means. But for some reason, Elizabeth May has decided to sponsor
00:21:17.800 this petition. So I'm wondering, Chris, what do you, what do you make of it? Okay, so I've been a staffer
00:21:24.000 on the Hill. I've been a parliamentary journalist with mainstream media too on the Hill. I will say that
00:21:30.260 members of parliament can, can choose which petitions they wish to read aloud, no matter what the topic is.
00:21:36.660 It comes from their constituents. Okay, so the area wherever just elected her would have then some 1.00
00:21:42.980 people or groups of people would have hopefully gotten enough signatures. And then the member of
00:21:48.540 parliament as their representative can choose to read it aloud or not. I will also point out that
00:21:55.700 genocide is like big time illegal. Like that's way up there in the list of things that is already
00:22:02.500 very, very illegal in Canada. And I'm not trying to be goofy about this. Like sometimes people don't
00:22:08.960 know the terminology and stuff. That's right up there. It's similar. It reminds me, it reminds me
00:22:15.200 of Bill C-63 in a way, because Bill C-63 is the one where it's often called the Online Harms Act,
00:22:22.020 which we're expecting them to reintroduce as it had fully been in the last parliament. It's called the
00:22:27.880 Online Harms Bill because it purports to protect children online, which any decent person wants to
00:22:35.540 do. Okay. And the issue here is that things like, God forbid, sharing images of child abuse or doing
00:22:44.380 something heinous like advocating terrorism online, those are already against the law.
00:22:50.160 Right. They're right up there in the criminal code. They take super heavy penalties for imprisonment.
00:22:57.000 If you want to increase the sentencing for stuff like that, take it to justice. Why do they have it
00:23:03.840 in heritage? And so that's where when we have wording like this, again, people are free to write
00:23:09.000 whatever the petition they want to write. That is part of free expression. But I just would urge people
00:23:14.600 to get to know what the laws already are and really focus their language if they want to be effective
00:23:21.820 when it comes to things like petitions, because the wording of that one was kind of all over the
00:23:26.920 place. Well, yeah, I was reading it and I'm like, this doesn't really even make sense. No. I don't
00:23:31.400 know that the people understand the meaning of the word genocide. Like genocide was a word that was
00:23:35.480 created for the Holocaust, after the Holocaust, because it was so heinous and disgusting what had 1.00
00:23:39.760 taken place that they needed a new word that was stronger than like any other word that they already
00:23:43.840 had. And so the idea is that it's like when like there's like an orchestrated attempt to kill an
00:23:51.060 entire race of people. Right. And so like it doesn't make sense in this context. There's no example of
00:23:56.840 really what they're even talking about. I see on here that it only has 296 signatures. So it's just
00:24:03.060 like it's just like wacky Elizabeth May out there grabbing a petition that she had no business grabbing. 0.99
00:24:09.160 And then, of course, like our friends over the Rebel News reported it and just made her look really 0.99
00:24:13.440 stupid and bad, as she deserved to, for promoting something like this. Like as a member of parliament, 0.99
00:24:17.920 you use your position of power, you know, to highlight important issues. Right. And to make
00:24:22.600 important political statements like we saw Andrew Lawton doing at the top. And then you kind of
00:24:26.680 juxtapose that with the crazy lady pretending that because, you know, every time they throw this word 1.00
00:24:31.400 around, it kind of like diminishes the actual thing that it is, which is a horrible thing. And it's only
00:24:37.500 happened like a handful of times in history, well, at least in modern history. And so this idea that
00:24:43.620 like, OK, because you don't think that your rights are being fulfilled in some way, I don't even really
00:24:49.860 understand how that that's genocide is just totally absurd. Last word to you.
00:24:54.440 I would strongly recommend and I mean this earnestly, if you're coming at this from a left wing perspective
00:24:58.800 and you want to stop logging or whatever it is, honestly. Be very precise in your language. Be exacting
00:25:06.300 in your language. Less is more. Be very clear. A is a. A thing is itself. OK. Read Politics in the
00:25:15.100 English Language by George Orwell. Read some of the shorter books written by the late Prime Minister
00:25:20.860 Winston Churchill. OK. Who can take really complex issues that are charged with emotionalism sometimes
00:25:27.020 down into very simple words that people are able to understand and that governments can then also
00:25:33.600 act upon. So just some free communications advice. Be very exact with the language you're choosing
00:25:39.780 and with the meaning of your words. I will also point out that members of Parliament, including Ms. May,
00:25:48.180 are now paid well over $200,000 per year. Tons of their expenses are covered, things like food. So if
00:25:56.140 they're in the House of Commons during the week, a lot of people don't know this, they have three
00:26:00.940 hot meals provided to them per day that are all fancy catered. OK. They're just behind the curtains
00:26:06.300 there in the lobbies. They can write off a ton of their expenses. In the case of Ms. May, when
00:26:11.720 eventually she no longer is elected or chooses to retire, she's going to be in line for a huge pension 0.99
00:26:17.040 because she's been in the House of Commons for a long time now. Keep this in mind, no matter what
00:26:22.120 your MP's doing, the next time you see them doing something that you disagree with, that they're
00:26:27.020 making well over $200,000 plus a lot of plush benefits. Well, such a nice lifestyle. And I
00:26:33.800 totally agree. I used to always have our interns and new staff read politics in the English language.
00:26:38.520 One of the best parts of that is specifically about the word fascism. It says that fascism has no
00:26:43.760 meaning. It's just something that people don't like. And there's no, like people throw it around
00:26:48.720 without even really understanding what it means as 100 percent true. And some sage advice there
00:26:53.520 from Chris Sims. Chris, thanks so much for joining us. Keep up the good work over there at the
00:26:58.340 taxpayers. Thanks so much. All right, folks. Have a wonderful weekend. We'll be back again on
00:27:02.300 Monday. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is the Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.
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