The Candice Malcolm Show - January 27, 2025


A Preview of Trump’s Wrath


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In this episode of the National News Podcast, host Candice Malan talks about a ridiculous piece from CTV's National News podcast about Trump's comments on Canada's healthcare situation and the lack of nurses in the province of Saskatchewan.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. I'm your host, Candice Malcolm. It is great to be with you.
00:00:10.400 I hope everyone had a wonderful, wonderful weekend and you're ready to hit the ground running on
00:00:14.920 Monday morning like I am. So usually to prepare for the show, I will go through and read all of
00:00:20.480 the legacy media. I personally like to listen to podcasts. I go for, if I'm going for a walk or if
00:00:26.680 I'm getting ready or just, you know, while the kids are getting ready for school, I will throw on a
00:00:30.920 podcast and listen to it. I had never listened to this one before. So I was listening to CTV's
00:00:35.800 national news podcast this morning. And I just need to tell you about it because it was so ridiculous.
00:00:39.940 Like Canadian media is fake news. And I think this story tells you exactly why. So their top story of
00:00:45.600 the day was obviously Trump, Trump, Trump, orange man, bad. And specifically they were talking about
00:00:50.540 this idea that Trump had said that Canada, Canadians would have better healthcare if they became part
00:00:56.260 of America. And then CTV like interviewed some people just scoffing at that. Like how, how dare
00:01:01.920 he, how dare he say that Canadians would have better healthcare. And then they, they, they dwelled on
00:01:07.960 this issue saying that, that, that Trump says that Canada is subsidized by United States. And again,
00:01:15.180 complaining about that saying like, how dare he say that we're not subsidized. And I kid you not,
00:01:19.980 right after that segment ended, they did a teaser for the show, for the news stories that they were also
00:01:25.000 covering. And the two news stories that they were also covering. So, so again, just started out by
00:01:29.600 complaining about Trump on these two issues. How dare he say that they have better healthcare than
00:01:33.660 us. And how dare they say that we are subsidized by them. Okay. The next two stories that they
00:01:38.240 previewed. The first one is this story about how the U S coast guard was called in to rescue a Canadian
00:01:44.840 ship on Lake Erie, U S coast guard. So the U S military is working to release a 660 foot Canadian 1.00
00:01:52.380 freighter that got trapped in thick ice on Lake Erie over the week. So, so, you know, not, not,
00:01:58.240 not like Canada is like dependent or subsidized by the American military, except for that is literally
00:02:03.360 happening right now. Canadians can't get out of thick ice on Lake Erie. So they had to call in the
00:02:08.720 coast guard had to get the U S military to help us. That was the first story they previewed. The second
00:02:12.560 story that they previewed was about the Saskatchewan nursing shortage, how the province is being hit hard
00:02:19.200 by a total lack of healthcare. And the story was about a rural town in Beauville called Beauville,
00:02:24.760 Saskatchewan that has been left without any healthcare for two weeks due to a shortage of
00:02:29.600 nurses. Sad story, horrible story, but Hey, guess what? This is what happens when you have a socialized
00:02:35.480 healthcare system. When your government healthcare system is provided by taxpayers, there will be
00:02:40.980 shortages. There will be rationing of care. That is literally what's happening. The story went on to
00:02:45.820 detail how, um, most nurses don't stay, how it's very hard to retain nurses, how they're very
00:02:51.960 overworked, which is all very true. My mom was a nurse. I get it. Nurses aren't treated very well
00:02:56.900 in our system because of our socialized system and the rationing, and it puts too much pressure
00:03:01.840 on individual nurses. So just way to go. Legacy media, your whole premise that Canadian healthcare
00:03:08.380 is better and that Canada doesn't need the United States was undermined by your own reporting
00:03:12.680 in your own podcast. Like two seconds later, you couldn't make it up. It's, it's, it's better
00:03:16.940 than parody. Um, but that's, that's Canada that we live in. Um, so, you know, uh, probably have to
00:03:22.600 listen to a different podcast. Hey, a good time to preview, uh, to promote my own show here. If
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00:03:41.880 and don't forget to subscribe to the channel. Okay. So we saw a little preview of president
00:03:47.700 Donald Trump's wrath coming over the weekend. This is an incredible story. Really, really incredible.
00:03:52.760 Some people will call it Trump bullying, but to me, it's just incredibly effective leadership.
00:03:57.520 So Trump hits Columbia with a tariff threat. So let me set this up for you. Donald Trump posted
00:04:04.560 this onto his own truth social on Sunday evening. And, uh, let me pull it open so that I can just
00:04:10.280 read it to you. He explains exactly what happens. He says, I was just informed that two repatriation
00:04:16.300 flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in
00:04:21.920 Columbia. This order was given by Columbia's socialist president, Gustavo Petro, who is already very
00:04:29.060 unpopular amongst his people. Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security
00:04:34.320 and public safety of the United States. So I have directed my administration to immediately
00:04:38.620 take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures. So first a 25% tariff on all goods coming
00:04:48.480 into the United States. Next, he has, uh, that one in one week, the tariff goes up another 25%
00:04:55.900 up to 50%. Oh my goodness. Makes it much, much worse here. He says he will implement a travel ban and
00:05:02.600 immediate visa revocation on Colombian government officials and allies and supporters. Next, he says
00:05:09.820 visa sanctions on all party members, family members, and supporters of the Colombian government. He goes
00:05:16.240 on basically to say that they won't allow, be allowed to do financial, uh, their financial institutions
00:05:21.740 will be frozen. He says, these measures are just beginning. We will now, we will not allow the
00:05:26.780 Colombian government to violate its legal obligation with regard to the acceptance and return of the
00:05:31.960 criminals they forced into the United States. Wow. Wow. That really hits him where they hurt. You know,
00:05:38.600 it's brutal enough to implement a trade, uh, tariff like that. You know, Colombia's number one trading
00:05:44.420 partner is the United States, uh, 25% now another 25%. Obviously that would bankrupt the country, bankrupt
00:05:50.020 like every business that was going in Colombia. But the travel bans were the hilarious part because
00:05:55.540 you know that this is always how it happens in these corrupt countries where government officials and
00:06:00.040 their families are actually living large in like Miami or New York city or Los Angeles. Um, while,
00:06:05.360 you know, they don't have to live through the horrible repercussions of their socialist governments,
00:06:09.400 um, down in whatever country they're in. And so they all live in the U S. So, so by him saying an 0.95
00:06:14.740 immediate travel ban and visa revocation for all of your family, for all the government officials and
00:06:20.020 all of their family members, like get out. Um, you know, that they got a lot of very, very angry,
00:06:24.980 uh, phone calls on that one. Um, look, I, I think this is effective. I, uh, readers and, um, viewers
00:06:31.900 know. Um, but prior to me starting true North, I worked in the Canadian government. I was the press
00:06:37.680 secretary to the minister of immigration, and this is a very real issue. This is real. So what happens
00:06:43.820 is you have a very bad person in your country and you want to deport them. You want to deport this
00:06:48.860 very bad person back to the terrible country that they came from. Um, they've come to our country 1.00
00:06:53.980 to sometimes illegally, sometimes legally broken a bunch of laws. They are now eligible for
00:06:58.300 deportation. You want them to go. Um, but the problem is that they don't have any documents,
00:07:02.900 right? When they came to the country, usually when they pretend to be refugees and make asylum claims, 0.70
00:07:07.140 they will leave their passport, throw it in the garbage, flush it down the toilet, light it on fire.
00:07:12.360 They want to get rid of their previous documents because they don't want to be sent home.
00:07:16.480 And so it's a, it's a legitimate problem. You have a very bad person in your country and you
00:07:21.100 want to deport them and you actually have no way to send them home unless the government cooperates
00:07:25.940 and issues them a new passport. So in this case, if you had a very bad person from Columbia and you
00:07:31.160 want to deport them to Columbia, the Colombian government would have to cooperate, issue them 1.00
00:07:36.040 new, um, passports so that they can actually get into the country. Um, Canada deals with this all
00:07:42.000 the time. Like I said, it was press secretary for the minister of immigration all the way back,
00:07:45.300 2011, 2012. This is a very real problem. Canada deals with it too. Um, but we don't have this,
00:07:51.740 you know, we don't have a bombastic leader, um, someone who is willing to just go absolutely,
00:07:56.500 um, all out in order to make sure that these bad people can leave the country. Um, and so Trump is
00:08:02.480 doing something I think very good. I think that Canada should do this kind of thing. I think Canada
00:08:05.940 should work with Trump in, Hey, at the same time, why don't you take your very bad people, uh, back from
00:08:11.400 Canada as well. So true. So Trump's threats, absolutely devastating. Um, and initially Colombian 1.00
00:08:18.500 government, Gustavo Petro, uh, initially responded by saying no. So he posted this, the United States
00:08:24.600 cannot treat Colombian migrants as criminals. Um, I deny the entry of the American planes carrying
00:08:30.200 Colombian migrants into our country. The United States must establish a protocol for dignified 0.99
00:08:34.960 treatment of migrants before we can receive them. Um, so that's what he said. Uh, that's not going
00:08:41.220 to cut it. That's not going to cut it because again, the foreign leaders are used to getting 0.99
00:08:46.860 to do this way, getting their own way, just saying, no, we want better treatment. We're not going to
00:08:50.460 take them back. We're not going to cooperate because there hasn't been a leader in a country
00:08:54.120 like Donald Trump. There hasn't been a leader in a country like Canada or the United States that is
00:08:57.980 willing to just say, absolutely not. We actually have a lot of power over you. We have a lot of
00:09:03.120 things that we do for you that we don't have to do. We're doing it out of the goodness of our heart
00:09:07.320 or we're doing this, um, for you and we don't have to do it for you. And this is what's going to
00:09:11.340 happen. These are the consequences. Um, of course, I don't always mean to pick on Andrew Coyne. It just
00:09:15.700 so happens that he usually says the stupidest thing, um, in the news stories that I want to talk
00:09:20.080 about. So Andrew Coyne immediately goes to celebrate Colombia. Um, this is just hilarious. So this is, 0.76
00:09:26.680 um, you know, he, this is what he writes. Good for Colombia. The key is for all democratic countries to
00:09:31.500 resist Trump's bullying together, uh, just as all of the democratic forces inside the U S need to.
00:09:38.240 So basically he wants Canada on the side of the Colombian criminals and socialists. A good call 1.00
00:09:45.320 there, Andrew Coyne. Yeah. Canada should stand with Colombia in this. Literally we deal with the same
00:09:49.880 problem. We have the same issue trying to deport people who won't let us. So Andrew Coyne is cheering
00:09:55.000 on the socialists in, uh, Colombia in their defiance. Um, except for like two minutes later,
00:10:01.400 they caved. So might want to delete that tweet, Andrew Coyne. So following Trump's tariff threat,
00:10:06.340 the Colombian government did a very quick about face. They did not want their visas to be revoked.
00:10:11.660 They did not want their family members to be kicked out of Miami or New York or wherever they might be
00:10:15.400 living. And basically just said, not only will we take these criminals back, but we will send our own
00:10:21.140 presidential airplane to pick them up. So yes, that is very effective. That is very comical. That is
00:10:28.960 how you get things done. My friends, that is how you get things done. You put your money where your
00:10:33.680 mouth is, you put it all on the line, say, look, this is how, this is how it's going to be from now
00:10:37.960 on. And if you don't cooperate, there will be consequences, not just for your country, but for
00:10:42.360 you personally and your corrupt regime. And that was very exposed. So yes, I have to say, I'm worked up
00:10:48.520 about this. I think Canada should do the same thing. We might not have the same ability to
00:10:53.740 promote change like that around the world. Like we don't have as much at stake with people,
00:10:58.200 you know, having visas to be able to come to Canada or with our trade. But again, we should
00:11:03.020 be partnering with the United States to say, hey, let's secure all of North America. Let's get all
00:11:07.580 of our criminals out. Help us deport these people and we'll work with you in the future. I think Canada
00:11:12.660 should be striking a deal like that. Okay. Trump ups his rhetoric against Canada. So we'll get into
00:11:18.500 this little tit for tat that's happening between Trump and possibly Pierre Polyev. So on Friday,
00:11:24.780 Donald Trump told reporters that he would still love to see Canada as a 51st state, adding that
00:11:29.920 Canadian citizens, if it happened, would get a very big tax cut. And I think this is a clip where he
00:11:35.180 also said that Canadians would get better healthcare. Let's play that clip.
00:11:39.600 I would love to see Canada be the 51st state. The Canadian citizens, if that happened,
00:11:45.480 would get a very big tax cut, tremendous tax cut, because they're very highly taxed.
00:11:52.200 And you wouldn't have to worry about military, you wouldn't have to worry about many of the things,
00:11:57.080 you'd have better health coverage, you'd have much better health coverage. So I think the people
00:12:01.900 of Canada would like it, you know, if it's explained. Fact check, true. Yes, we would have lower taxes and
00:12:08.500 better healthcare if we joined America. Now that might be controversial to say that we'd have better
00:12:12.040 healthcare. Because yes, there are people in the United States who go bankrupt because they can't
00:12:16.960 afford their medical bills. I'm not saying that the American healthcare system is perfect. I have
00:12:20.840 a lot of criticisms about the way that insurance is issued. The reality is that anybody who is in the
00:12:27.360 bottom, like 50% of the country gets government healthcare insurance, gets government insurance
00:12:31.960 in the United States. All people who have a job and are employed also have healthcare through their
00:12:37.560 provider. I personally have an anecdote. I have had healthcare in both Canada and the United States. I've
00:12:43.860 been pregnant in both countries and seen care. And it is bar none, head and shoulders better in the United
00:12:50.640 States. I was in California. So granted, you know, I was in a affluent part of the state. And we were on my
00:12:56.820 husband's work health insurance. So we had very, very good health insurance. My experience in the United States
00:13:01.520 were always very, very positive. I was pregnant during COVID. And I was in Toronto. And let me just
00:13:07.660 tell you, I felt like I was in a refugee camp. Going to the OB, going to the doctor during pregnancy
00:13:14.520 in Canada was not a good experience. Yeah, wouldn't recommend it. I know that everyone has their own
00:13:20.400 experiences. But my experiences in Canada from everything like my husband needed stitches last year,
00:13:25.020 and he had to sit in the emergency room in Toronto for like 12 hours watching people get stabbed,
00:13:29.860 watching drug addicts all around. Everyone has these kinds of stories. But yeah, healthcare in
00:13:35.680 Canada, isn't that great? It is a problem. Trump kind of, you know, poked the bear with that one,
00:13:41.640 making, hitting Canadians where it hurts, because we love to pretend that we have superior healthcare,
00:13:46.720 even though I think deep down, we all know that we don't, and COVID really exposed that. Also,
00:13:51.440 of course, Canadians would get a very big tax cut, because we showed this before, but I think it was
00:13:58.160 Fraser Institute did a study of the tax rates per jurisdiction in North America. And the 10 Canadian
00:14:04.720 provinces were like the top 10 jurisdictions for highly taxed. Even low tax Alberta is higher tax
00:14:10.640 than the highest tax states like California and New York. So yes, we would have a tax cut. Now,
00:14:16.900 Pierre Polyev stepping up, we hadn't really heard in detail what his position is when it comes to
00:14:23.020 Trump dealing with Trump, and the potential trade war. Basically, we have, you know, the whole
00:14:27.880 spectrum, Justin Trudeau over here saying nothing's off the table, we'll do anything, including possibly
00:14:32.600 and potentially an embargo on oil. And then on the other hand, you have Danielle Smith saying,
00:14:37.840 not going to happen, not a good idea. Let's not hurt ourselves even further. Let's not engage in a
00:14:42.440 trade war. I think that Pierre Polyev kind of strikes a nice balance here comes out sort of in the
00:14:48.320 middle. Not really advocating for a trade war, but saying that, you know, push comes to shove.
00:14:53.760 That's where he would go. So let's watch this clip.
00:14:57.020 President Trump is a dealmaker. He wants to win. But we're both going to lose as Americans and
00:15:03.740 Canadians if we get into a trade war. So what I would say is, how do we position the decision for
00:15:09.840 him so that he understands that America can only win if it allows open, unbridled free trade with
00:15:15.860 Canada. So I would retaliate and I would target products and services that, A, we don't need,
00:15:22.020 B, we can make ourself and C, that we can buy elsewhere so that we maximize impact on the
00:15:28.540 Americans while minimizing impact on Canadians. Secondly, I would pass an emergency bring it home 1.00
00:15:36.220 tax cut on work, investment, making stuff in Canada, energy, home building, so that we can
00:15:43.460 stimulate more economic growth here. Three, we need to become more self-sufficient. That means
00:15:49.600 knocking down barriers, more interprovincial free trade. We have freer trade with the Americans today
00:15:55.200 than we do with ourselves. We have to knock down those barriers, build pipelines, LNG liquefaction
00:16:01.380 facilities to sell our stuff to the world without having to go through the Americans. If they're going 0.89
00:16:06.680 to be an unreliable trade partner, we've got to find ways to sell more to ourselves and more to the rest
00:16:10.920 of the world. Do you see it as a dollar for dollar retaliation? I would say so, yeah. It has to hit
00:16:15.760 hard. And again, we have to be very pinpoint and surgical to make sure we're maximizing impact on
00:16:22.560 the American side while minimizing impact on our side. So Pierre, making it clear, I know a lot of
00:16:28.580 conservatives were celebrating that clip. I don't see it quite that way. I don't think it's in Canada's
00:16:32.660 interest at all to go down this path of a trade war. I don't think, even I get that his point is that
00:16:37.880 you want precision and that you got to hit them where it hurts. It's not going to hurt them nearly
00:16:42.380 as much as it's going to hurt us. We're not in a position economically to be strong enough to withstand
00:16:47.840 that, not to mention the fact that we desperately need the Americans, as is evident by our ship that
00:16:53.340 is trapped in Lake Erie in the ice. And immediately the Americans come in, you know, out of the goodness
00:16:58.900 of their heart, you know, they could have said no, but they wouldn't. They wouldn't leave 17 people
00:17:02.900 stranded on a ship. That's, that's how many people were on that boat that I showed you earlier in Lake
00:17:07.080 Erie. They're going to come in and they're going to rescue those Canadians. And the fact that, you
00:17:11.940 know, that that's hardly in the news, that story is hardly even out there. This fact, this fact that
00:17:16.620 the Americans are coming in rescuing Canadian workers, rescuing our ship that is trapped in the
00:17:23.140 ice at Lake Erie. We should be thanking the Americans. We should be friends with them. We should be
00:17:28.540 promoting the friendship. I think Pierre should go down and talk to talk to Trump one on one and make
00:17:34.380 a deal. But you know, that that kind of talk, I guess I guess that's what it takes to win an
00:17:40.340 election or to just be seen as moderate in Canada these days. But I would like to see Canada get on
00:17:47.700 board with working with Trump making a deal. He's our ally. He's our friend. Their boats are rescuing our
00:17:52.760 boats as we speak. So let's not jeopardize that relationship. All that's to say that those tariffs
00:17:58.520 look to be coming in on February 1st. So we will be reporting on that later this week as it
00:18:04.180 happens. And again, hopefully, hopefully it doesn't. You know, Trump said day one, day one
00:18:08.940 didn't happen. I think there's still room for negotiation. I think that there's still room for
00:18:12.820 Trump to change his mind. There's a lot going on in the world, a lot going on in Trump's agenda.
00:18:18.300 So hopefully it isn't a top, top priority. We do have one Canadian politician who's sort of using
00:18:23.820 Trump to his advantage. We heard that Ontario Premier Doug Ford will call an election this week.
00:18:31.240 So Premier Doug Ford confirms that he will call a snap election on February 27th. He's to make that
00:18:38.040 announcement later this week. Of course, there isn't supposed to be an election until 2026. Of course,
00:18:46.060 the last election was in 2022. Ford got a majority then he got his first majority back in 2008. So this is
00:18:53.080 his second straight majority. It's supposed to be a four-year term. But this is what Canadian 0.99
00:18:57.860 politicians do. They read the polls, they look for an opportunity, and they would rather, you know,
00:19:04.360 Doug Ford thinks that he can run an election against Donald Trump. Somehow the provincial
00:19:09.480 government needs a mandate to deal with Trump. I don't quite understand that one. But I think
00:19:14.260 Trump is just using, or sorry, Ford is just using this to his advantage. His PCs are riding very high
00:19:20.120 in the polls. Latest polls show him at 46 or 47 percent, potentially winning 108 out of the 122 seats
00:19:30.260 in the Ontario provincial parliament there. So, you know, and of course, the Liberals are still in
00:19:38.140 shambles provincially. I think that Doug Ford is kind of doing a favor to Justin Trudeau and the Liberals
00:19:44.120 right now. Really, the reality is that we need a federal election. We need a federal election so
00:19:50.520 that someone with a clear mandate can go in and negotiate with and talk with Donald Trump. We need
00:19:57.420 the Liberals out. Justin Trudeau resigned or said that he was intending to resign, and then he didn't
00:20:01.900 actually resign. He said that they were going to have a leadership race instead, and now we're waiting
00:20:05.580 for that. That's not right. That's not right. Canadians deserve an election now. I started a petition on my
00:20:11.480 website. You should go check that out at candicemalcolm.com. Sign my petition urging for an
00:20:17.380 election. Once we get enough signatures, we're going to take it to the governor general and demand,
00:20:22.300 Canadians demand, an election because we need a federal party to deal with Trump. Provincial party,
00:20:28.520 you know, now that there's an election that's happening in February, there's no way that they're
00:20:32.360 going to call a national election because Ontarians can't go to the polls simultaneously at the same time,
00:20:37.720 or at least that'll be the argument. So thanks, Doug Ford, because of you, it seems like we are going
00:20:42.360 to have to wait a little bit longer to replace the Liberal Party and get a new federal government.
00:20:49.160 And again, this is what politicians do, right? This is what Justin Trudeau did. Justin Trudeau really
00:20:52.620 wanted a post-COVID referendum on his leadership because the worst had still yet to come. So that's
00:20:59.000 why he prompted that 2021 campaign. After saying that he thought that it would be reckless
00:21:03.200 to campaign in the midst of a pandemic, he himself triggered an election because he saw that he was
00:21:09.140 higher in the polls than the Conservatives at the time and leader Aaron O'Toole. So he pushed that
00:21:14.380 knowing full well. I mean, if you look at Trudeau's trajectory, if he had not had that election in
00:21:20.820 2021, if it had even gone another six months until the spring of 2022, I think Justin Trudeau would
00:21:26.060 have lost handily. Keep in mind, the trucker convoy happened in January of 2022. That is when people
00:21:32.320 really, really got fed up with the COVID nonsense, with the mandates, with the government control,
00:21:39.020 everything about it. It was just like absolutely enough is enough. Another year where kids weren't
00:21:43.320 properly in school, where they were forcing us to wear masks, where they were pushing all kinds of
00:21:48.100 insane edicts that made no sense, not to mention the wrath of the vaxxers, like absolute madness. 1.00
00:21:55.620 And it would have fallen apart for Trudeau. So it was quite smart from a political perspective for him
00:22:00.200 to push the election in 2021. Not that I was happy with the outcome. I thought it was terrible. But
00:22:05.360 this is what politicians in Canada can do. They can get away with this kind of stuff because
00:22:09.640 we let them. Well, this is kind of a funny story. So, you know, Doug Ford famously put on a hat
00:22:16.280 saying Canada's not for sale, kind of showing the other side of, you know, it looked like a Trump hat.
00:22:21.900 It looked like a Make America Great Again hat. Do we have a picture of it there, Sean?
00:22:25.300 Yeah. So there's his hat. Canada's not for sale. Well, a funny story that those hats,
00:22:31.680 of course, are not being made in Canada. Canada's not for sale. So let's manufacture our hats in some
00:22:37.820 sweatshop in Vietnam, Bangladesh, or China. Apparently, you can't really have hats made
00:22:43.940 in Canada these days. There's not a lot of people making hats. And, you know, the whole idea,
00:22:50.040 well, basically, those hats are selling out. They're selling like hotcakes because Canadians 1.00
00:22:54.360 love the idea of standing up and being tough. You know, but the idea is that we can't even make these
00:22:59.680 hats in our own country. It's kind of, kind of sad, kind of pathetic. So, you know, Doug Ford's
00:23:06.060 going to have an election. We will cover it for you here on the show. And don't forget to check out
00:23:10.660 True North, tnc.news. Sign up for the newsletter over there. They will be covering this election very
00:23:16.820 closely and giving you all the latest. Okay, let's move on to, well, I want to talk to you about the
00:23:22.540 liberal leadership race, the latest of that. Before I do, I'll show you one more Polyev clip. 0.99
00:23:29.500 Is this a clip or is this a, yeah, this is a clip. So, Conservative leader Pierre Polyev
00:23:34.540 called on Mark Carney, this is good, to ban Trudeau cabinet ministers from cabinet. So we all know that
00:23:40.480 Mark Carney is pretending to be an outsider. He's pretending that he was totally, totally different
00:23:45.720 and not involved at all in Justin Trudeau's horrible time as prime minister. You know,
00:23:50.780 it's a bit unfortunate because there's news reports dating back to 2020 talking about how Mark Carney
00:23:55.380 was an advisor to Justin Trudeau. There was always rumors that he was going to swoop in at any point
00:24:01.240 and become the finance minister. And, you know, not exactly an outsider, but nonetheless, Mark Carney
00:24:07.400 is running as an outsider. So Pierre Polyev basically said, again, put your money where your mouth is,
00:24:11.780 published an open letter to Mark Carney calling on him to ban any Trudeau minister from serving
00:24:17.460 in cabinet. And he was asked about this while campaigning with Francois-Philippe Champagne on
00:24:26.140 Sunday. Carney responded to Polyev saying that he has no respect for half the country. Let's play this clip.
00:24:36.620 Monsieur Polyev, he wants to control everything. He wants to insult half the country.
00:24:41.020 He doesn't have respect for the deputies. He doesn't have respect for the people.
00:24:46.480 And the Canadians will have a real option in the next election. I think he's scared is the first
00:24:50.900 thing. Why is he writing me a letter on a Sunday morning? I don't think that Pierre Polyev is scared,
00:24:58.980 but that's the line. It would be interesting. I think that that's a good point. I think that if
00:25:03.620 Mark Carney truly was an outsider and truly recognized the scope of the disaster that was the Justin Trudeau
00:25:09.060 government, he should commit to having a new cabinet altogether. And so, of course, interestingly,
00:25:16.420 while Carney tries to run, run far away from Justin Trudeau on his record, Trudeau's cabinet ministers
00:25:22.860 are now consolidating their support around Mark Carney. So on Saturday, we had Transportation
00:25:28.760 Minister Anita Nan released a video endorsing Mark Carney, saying Mark has the ability to steer
00:25:35.960 Canada during very difficult times. Let's play that clip.
00:25:39.280 Over the past weeks, I've taken time to think about what is best for our country, our party,
00:25:46.060 and our beautiful town of Oakville. I've spoken with liberals, including the amazing supporters
00:25:52.620 with me today, to discuss what is best at this time in Canada's history. And we agree that Mark Carney
00:26:03.820 is the leader that Canada needs. I worked with Mark during the global financial crisis almost 20 years
00:26:11.500 ago, and I saw at that time that Mark has the ability to steer Canada during very difficult times
00:26:19.260 and to ensure that Canada comes out on top.
00:26:24.560 Okay, brutal, brutal video. Interestingly, again, more and more of these cabinet ministers are coming
00:26:32.080 and endorsing and endorsing and supporting Mark Carney. So I think we have a CBC tracker,
00:26:37.820 don't we, Sean? It shows how many MPs are supporting each leadership hopeful. So Mark Carney is way up
00:26:49.200 ahead in that count with 52 caucus members and liberals supporting him, whereas Chrystia Freeland
00:26:55.280 only has 26. Caterina Gold only has two. Not exactly an endorsement for Chrystia Freeland. It's
00:27:01.600 pretty wild, right? It's like Mark Carney is a so-called outsider. Chrystia Freeland has been part of the
00:27:07.520 team day in, day out. The fact that she can't even get her own colleagues to support her is pretty 0.56
00:27:14.560 damning in my mind. You would think, you know, she was the deputy prime minister. She was the finance 1.00
00:27:20.560 minister. She took the principled stand to leave caucus before Justin Trudeau tried to fire her and
00:27:26.400 boot her out, as she claims. So the fact that so many of the liberal MPs are going with Mark Carney,
00:27:34.380 I think that tells you a lot about Chrystia Freeland. The fact that her own colleagues don't respect her, 0.99
00:27:39.800 don't like her, don't want to leave the party. Maybe it's strategic. Maybe it's because they think that
00:27:43.640 she's too close to Trudeau and that she, you know, that the Canadian public would reject her as leader
00:27:51.260 because she'll just be seen as like, you know, a part of the Trudeau government. But really, you know,
00:27:57.560 she's been there. She's had a long time to work on those friendships and those relationships. So
00:28:03.280 the fact, again, that 52 are with Carney and only 26 with Freeland, ouch. You know, I've heard a theory
00:28:10.540 that a lot of the MPs are kind of ticked with Chrystia Freeland right now, possibly saying that,
00:28:17.240 you know, if it weren't for her leaving caucus, leaving cabinet, sorry, leaving cabinet,
00:28:22.440 stepping down as finance minister, that this chain of events wouldn't have happened. Trudeau wouldn't
00:28:28.240 have resigned. He wouldn't have stepped down. He would still be prime minister. They would still
00:28:32.180 be able to sort of hobble along until the October election. Justin Trudeau is a known quantity when it
00:28:37.620 comes to the election. He's a good campaigner. You know, there's not very much that I will say
00:28:42.060 good about Justin Trudeau. I won't compliment him at all. I think he's a terrible prime minister,
00:28:46.540 terrible leader, terrible on policy, terrible speaker, everything, everything. Objectively,
00:28:50.520 though, he's run three campaigns in a row. And that is seen as his strong point. His strongest skill
00:28:56.860 is campaigning. Whereas, you know, Carney, Freeland, whoever the next liberal leader will be,
00:29:02.400 they've never campaigned nationally. They've never led a party before. So, you know, odds are they won't do
00:29:06.960 very well. Odds are. Canadians won't be happy. So it's possible that MPs are still a little grouchy
00:29:11.920 at Freeland, a little bit bitter that this all happened and blaming her for that. You know,
00:29:17.840 the reality is that the Liberals are not going to win. Whenever there is election, if there's an
00:29:21.580 election in the future, hopefully sooner rather than later, the Liberals aren't going to win.
00:29:26.340 Canadians are going to send them a big, big message telling them just how displeased we are
00:29:30.860 with their record and their time in office. It doesn't really matter if it'll be Carney or Freeland,
00:29:35.800 but my money right now is certainly on Mark Carney. Also over the weekend, we had Defense Minister
00:29:42.820 Bill Blair and the newly appointed Housing Minister, Nate Urxel Smith, also endorsed Mark Carney. So
00:29:53.260 we'll get into this story a little bit. Mark Carney and Nate Urxel Smith were doing a event together
00:30:01.160 in the beaches, a nice little neighborhood over in East Toronto. And basically, I mean, this is,
00:30:09.140 this is, this is a little wild. So I'll play this clip. Melissa Lanceman, who is a conservative MP,
00:30:13.900 and I think she's a deputy leader of the party. She interrupted this event that was happening nearby
00:30:21.120 with Mark Carney and Nate Smith. So she was interrupting him and then she was speaking to reporters and he
00:30:27.360 came up and he interrupted her and they got into a little bit of dispute. I know a lot of people
00:30:32.360 were really, really outraged about this happening online. A lot of conservatives were very, very upset
00:30:36.800 that this male MP put his hand on the female MP's shoulders. Um, I'll play the clip. You can,
00:30:44.100 you can draw your own conclusions. Let's, uh, let's play that clip now.
00:30:46.780 Welcome to the beach. So yeah, so you can see there that, that they were kind of joking around.
00:31:03.160 He was saying, I want to buy you a drink. Let's talk. Um, she was saying, she was kind of trying
00:31:07.240 to push him away so she can continue to give her speech to the press. And then he kind of comes back
00:31:11.840 in and he, and he, and he touches her shoulder. And so the conservatives screenshotted that picture
00:31:16.780 of him touching her shoulder and tried to make a big, big deal about it. You saw a lot of, um,
00:31:22.200 conservative commentators on social media saying, you know, get your hands off her and never touch
00:31:26.080 her. How dare you? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, the reality is that she was kind of crashing his
00:31:31.180 event and he was kind of trying to crash hers and it looked like it was all in fun. I'm not one of
00:31:36.920 those people who are going to make a big, big deal. Like how dare you? Um, you know, it's politics,
00:31:42.140 they're campaigning. It's all about showmanship. Um, they were each trying to updo each other.
00:31:47.440 I don't know, maybe I'm missing something. Let me know in the comments if there's something
00:31:50.220 that is deeply, deeply wrong here that I'm missing, but I, I just, uh, I can't make myself,
00:31:56.200 uh, get worked up over something like that. Okay. Let's get back to the liberal leadership race.
00:32:02.900 So Ruby Dolly, um, his campaigning, she released a clip, uh, with, with an interview of herself.
00:32:10.360 Um, this is a former Brampton MP who's now running for liberal leadership, or she's a hopeful for that
00:32:15.820 race, uh, Ruby Dolly jumping out and saying, let's deport, uh, calling on deporting illegals out of 1.00
00:32:22.780 Canada. Let's play that clip. Well, they want, I mean, it's very good question, but they want to
00:32:27.400 send back people that have just jumped the border illegally. And I also actually agree with that 1.00
00:32:32.280 approach. If you've come to Canada illegally by illegal means, then you need to be deported out 0.99
00:32:37.560 of the country. I think that, you know, when it comes to any type of crime and that is criminal
00:32:43.720 because you're coming here illegally, if you come illegally into this country, you need to be 1.00
00:32:49.720 deported. And as soon as you start laying down the gamut, and as soon as you start becoming very
00:32:55.480 strict on these immigration policies, I think that you're naturally going to have a reduction.
00:33:02.280 Okay. Let's just, I'll pause for a moment and appreciate this moment. Okay. As someone who has
00:33:07.240 been talking about immigration publicly for at least a decade, um, somebody who has often said
00:33:13.440 just that if you come to our country illegally, you have to be deported. We are a country that
00:33:18.720 respects the rule of law. We are a country based on order and law. If you come here illegally, you 1.00
00:33:23.520 cannot stay. You have to go. Um, you know, it used to be considered, uh, really offside for someone
00:33:29.620 to say that I have been accused of all kinds of things, um, ranging from xenophobic, uh, to racist,
00:33:35.380 to anything else, just for stating this fact that if you come to our country illegally, you have to go.
00:33:41.220 So I just want to stop and pause and say, this is a breath of fresh air. I'm not going to vote in the
00:33:45.780 liberal leadership race. I'm not a liberal. I would never support someone like Ruby Dalla to lead the
00:33:51.220 country. However, the fact that a liberal is saying this shows us just how far we've shifted the Overton
00:33:57.700 window in this country, just how much things have changed. It used to be considered edgy or offside,
00:34:02.980 um, to say something like this. And now it is mainstream. Everybody agrees. The liberals have
00:34:08.100 broken our immigration system. They've broken the consensus and enough is enough. So, so I, I welcome 1.00
00:34:14.660 this. I think it's great. I think that the liberal party should be more right-wing. I think that they
00:34:18.580 should be more anti-immigration and more anti-illegal immigration because it would push the federal
00:34:24.260 conservative party, uh, again, to be better on immigration. Um, the more kind of hawkish
00:34:29.700 you have a liberal party on this issue, it gives conservatives, you know, they have to break away
00:34:34.340 and do something different. So it would make the conservatives be stronger as well. Uh, do I think
00:34:40.180 Ruby Dalla is going to win? No, probably not. I don't think she has a great chance of winning, 0.95
00:34:43.780 but I like, I like hearing this. It's the same as, you know, if Christy Clark were going to be
00:34:47.620 leader, like, look, I don't support Christy Clark. I don't much like her. Um, I don't want
00:34:51.700 the idea of a carbon tax coming in and that was sort of her marquee platform, a marquee program
00:34:56.980 and policy from when she was the liberal premier of British Columbia, but she's certainly more
00:35:01.460 conservative than the rest of the liberal party. And so having a liberal leader that's a bit more
00:35:06.100 conservative is a good thing. If they can run down the center or even center right, it would force 0.86
00:35:10.740 the conservatives to stake out more positions on the right, better positions when it comes to our
00:35:17.460 economy, lower taxes, freer trade, less immigration, all this kind of stuff, cracking down on crime.
00:35:23.540 Um, you know, if, if we have a more centrist liberal party, that's better for everybody.
00:35:27.700 And again, I, if, if there's any silver lining from this whole, you know, Justin Trudeau prime
00:35:33.460 ministership and him blowing up his party is that maybe hopefully, um, the party will move more back
00:35:38.980 to the center or even a little bit to the right. Okay. There was a little bit of another update on this
00:35:44.180 liberal leadership race. This is that MP Chanda Ara has been disqualified from the leadership race.
00:35:49.780 So on Sunday, liberal leadership hopeful announced that he had been informed by the party of his
00:35:55.780 disqualification from the race, adding that the decision raises significant questions about the
00:36:00.420 legitimacy of the leadership race and by extension, the legitimacy of the next prime minister of Canada.
00:36:06.500 Well, he's right about that. I don't think that the next prime minister of Canada will have
00:36:10.100 a lot of legitimacy given that they're not being selected in a federal election. They're just being
00:36:15.540 chosen by their own party in a system that's not very transparent or secure. Um, certainly that is
00:36:21.860 right. Uh, if Justin Trudeau had any honor, he would just call an election. He would lead the party into
00:36:27.060 the election, allow Canadians a choice as to who will be the next prime minister, but because he's not,
00:36:32.020 because he cares much more about his own legacy and his political party, he is not allowing that.
00:36:36.980 He probed parliament so that they can have this liberal leadership race. Um, the next prime
00:36:41.540 minister will not have any legitimacy. So he's right about that. Um, I don't know if it will make
00:36:45.940 it any worse that he has been disqualified. I don't know that Canadians, uh, will know or care. 0.72
00:36:50.180 Um, according to Aria, he said that he met the deadline to submit his nomination party, uh,
00:36:55.380 his sorry, his nomination papers. He previously announced that he had submitted the application package
00:37:00.580 to the Liberal Party of Canada. That was on January 21st. He also said he submitted the $50,000
00:37:06.260 compliance deposit to the leadership contest. He received over a thousand endorsements nationwide
00:37:11.940 and more than 200 endorsements from each of the three provinces meeting or exceeding all of the
00:37:17.940 requirements for leader. So why, why was he kicked out? Why do you think that he was kicked out of the
00:37:25.700 party? Uh, lots of theories as to why, um, one of the things that was floating around the Liberal
00:37:32.900 Party's national leadership rules allow party officials to vet potential candidates to deem
00:37:38.180 whether they have been, um, whether they have satisfied mandatory criteria. Um, and if they
00:37:45.380 are manifestly unfit for the office of the Liberal Party of Canada, they can be, um, kicked out. So
00:37:53.620 maybe it was party brass just saying, look, we really don't want this guy. Um, I, I point this out
00:37:59.940 that he did the CBC interview. He did, um, an interview with power and politics host, David
00:38:06.580 Cochran, where not only did he admit that he had lied when he said that he knew how to speak French
00:38:12.580 on his parliamentary, um, website, it says preferred languages are English and French. Well, in this
00:38:17.940 interview, he first admitted that he does not know how to speak French. So he lied. And then he went on
00:38:24.180 to say that French isn't very important. Uh, French, who cares? Who cares about French? He says in the
00:38:29.860 Liberal Party, um, that, that Quebecers are really just English Canadians. Um, I think we have that 0.99
00:38:34.900 clip. Let's play that clip. How's your French? Nope. No, no French? No French. Okay. The Liberal
00:38:41.860 Party of Canada is the party of official bilingualism. It's going to be a tough one. I, I don't speak
00:38:44.900 French either. So I, I, you know. The point is that whether the Quebecers are English Canadians,
00:38:50.740 it's not the language that matters, it's what is that they deliver to them. But the language
00:38:54.340 matters very much in Quebec. No. At the end of the day, Quebecers see who delivers what. You know,
00:38:59.940 we have English speaking French fluent, uh, prime minister for all the time. One of the things
00:39:05.140 that matters to Quebecers are being a sovereign country, a sovereign republic. Yeah. And which, uh,
00:39:10.580 but, like, Prime Minister has ever talked about that. Mr. Arya, if you're going to run for prime
00:39:14.420 minister, I mean, you have to know that the French language matters and the French, it matters in Quebec.
00:39:20.260 Trust me. Profoundly. Trust me. At the end of the day, for French Canadians and English Canadians,
00:39:25.220 the matters most is that how the children and grandchildren are going to prosper in this country.
00:39:29.780 That is the thing that matters.
00:39:33.140 No, language doesn't really matter. You're wrong. CBC, you're wrong. Liberal Party, Quebecers don't care.
00:39:38.260 Of course, I don't, I don't think it matters. I think that if you were the leader of the Conservative
00:39:41.300 Party and you didn't speak French, it would be perfectly fine. The Liberal Party requires so much
00:39:46.340 support from Quebec in order to govern. Like, they cannot govern without getting almost universal
00:39:50.820 support out of Quebec. Uh, so this guy was just wrong. My, my guess is that was the reason that
00:39:57.220 got him kicked out. Although there are other theories, uh, circulating online, some of them very,
00:40:02.100 very fun. So, you know, there was a campaign. I don't, I don't know if it was serious or if it was
00:40:06.980 just sort of being funny, but many Conservatives or Conservative-minded Canadians were talking about
00:40:12.660 how it would be great if they joined the Liberal Party. So, oh, just, just a second, Sean, don't get
00:40:18.900 far ahead of me here. That it would be great if Conservatives would just take out a Liberal Party
00:40:25.540 membership. It is free. Anyone can do it online. It doesn't cost any money. All you have to do is just
00:40:30.580 fill out a form. Anyone can do it. So urging Conservative-minded Canadians to take out a Party
00:40:36.340 membership just so that they can go online and vote for this person who would clearly be a terrible
00:40:42.100 candidate federally, who would, who would decimate the Liberal Party. My opinion, the Liberal Party is
00:40:46.980 going to get decimated anyway, so you don't need to put up a terrible candidate. Even if you put up
00:40:51.300 the best candidate possible, which I think probably they believe is Mark Carney, your party will still
00:40:55.940 get decimated. Uh, but you know, this is kind of like the meme, um, the meme taking over real life
00:41:02.020 saying, let's, let's make a mockery of our political system and the Liberal Party. So you had Rick Hillier,
00:41:07.460 who is a conservative, uh, uh, minded person. And he writes, we need about 250,000 people to join the
00:41:15.620 Liberal Party and vote for Chanda Arya as leader. Um, check out the number and the reach on that tweet,
00:41:23.780 400,000, uh, sorry, 900,000 views on that one. So, you know, tons of people saying,
00:41:30.820 yes, everybody, um, take out a membership, vote this guy in. Possibly, maybe, maybe that was why
00:41:36.900 the Liberals said, look, this guy has to go because they were afraid that he might actually win.
00:41:42.100 That because of the absolute joke that is their leadership process, their whole leadership system,
00:41:47.940 that anyone could join in, that it doesn't cost any money. So like, you don't even know who the people
00:41:51.780 are. Uh, you know, I've heard reports and stories of people's dogs getting registered as a Liberal
00:41:58.100 Party. We had a Truman supporter who wrote in, uh, saying that he started getting emails saying that
00:42:02.580 he had registered for the Liberal Party, uh, leadership race, even though he's not a liberal,
00:42:07.300 and he never did. Someone just, you know, threw his name and email address in. It's super easy.
00:42:11.540 Anyone can do it. Um, I think that points to what a joke, um, this party is that they can't even
00:42:17.380 secure their own leadership race and this idea that anyone can vote, uh, rather than this individual.
00:42:22.660 But, you know, if I were running the Liberal Party and I found, I saw that tweet and I saw a lot of
00:42:26.660 people signing up, um, and a lot of signs pointing to the fact that this guy might be a leader, um,
00:42:32.020 yeah, it might not be a bad idea to disqualify him. Um, it's not like the Liberals really care about
00:42:36.580 democracy. We know that. Um, there's also some rumors, um, circulating online that perhaps it was, uh,
00:42:41.940 connected to foreign interference. Perhaps this person has a past, um, you know, in, um,
00:42:48.260 there, there is that report coming out of the MPs who, uh, you know, are suspected of being involved
00:42:54.420 in foreign interference that are being funded by foreign governments. Um, so some speculation
00:42:59.300 that this individual might be connected to Modi in India, just pure speculation, uh, not making any
00:43:05.700 accusations there, but, uh, lots and lots of reasons why this individual might have been removed,
00:43:11.620 uh, let me know in the comments what you think. Uh, would you think that the Liberals just dodging
00:43:15.220 a bullet there? And, uh, would you have liked to see, um, Aria perhaps potentially as the leader 0.50
00:43:23.860 of the Liberal Party? Okay. Well, I want to, uh, switch focus here and, uh, talk a little bit
00:43:28.740 about the NDP. Um, the NDP is a party that's in a total mess. You know, I, I just talked about the mess
00:43:34.020 that is the Conservative Party, but the NDP Party are also in a mess. I was really pleased to catch up
00:43:40.820 with an individual named Julian Newman, um, last week, and I'm going to play you that interview.
00:43:45.700 So before I do, I'll just, uh, explain a little bit about it. So Julian is a spokesperson
00:43:49.780 for a group that's organizing a petition to have, uh, Jagmeet Singh, um, basically,
00:43:57.300 they wrote an open letter to Jagmeet Singh, um, basically just saying that the government is,
00:44:01.860 the Liberal government's one of the worst governments in Liberal history. Canada's facing a dire, uh,
00:44:07.380 potential trade war with the United States. The Liberal Party is in disarray, um, and asking
00:44:12.420 that he withdraw his support from the Liberal Party, forcing an election as fast as possible.
00:44:18.740 And so, um, Julian is a spokesperson for that group. He was previously the NDP's head organizer
00:44:25.780 under Tom Mulcair. He was head of Quebec operations under Jack Layton. And you'll hear,
00:44:31.540 he tells personal anecdote about his time working with Jack Layton and how far the party has fallen,
00:44:37.220 uh, since those days, he's currently instructing a philosophy course at Princeton University. It was
00:44:42.900 really a pleasure to catch up with Julian. So here is that interview. Hi, Julian. Thank you so much for
00:44:49.860 joining the show. Thanks for having me. So tell us about this letter that you've put forth and what it
00:44:56.740 is that you're trying to do. Yeah. So we, we came together, a group of 35 senior former NDP staffers
00:45:06.260 and, uh, former NDP members of parliament. And it's important to stress the former because, uh,
00:45:12.340 Jagmeet has threatened to sue me personally. Uh, so, um, that's important, but, uh, yeah, 0.96
00:45:18.820 so we were 35 folks. We started a conversation with, uh, the new democratic party's leadership
00:45:25.700 in December. We were trying to tell them like, Hey, there's an upcoming trade war and Canada needs
00:45:32.340 a government. Obviously they didn't listen. Uh, so we got, uh, started a petition and got a thousand
00:45:40.500 NDP members and NDP, uh, voters to sign that petition over a few days over the holidays.
00:45:47.220 And our goal is to say like, Hey, Jagmeet, you are not taking this seriously. And it's important that
00:45:53.540 that would trigger an election as quickly as possible, uh, pretty much to avoid the situation
00:45:58.980 that ended up happening. Well, you know, it's frustrating from my perspective and maybe more
00:46:04.820 from the conservative perspective that a small party with not that many seats, uh, relative to
00:46:10.420 the other parties has this balance of power. One person Jagmeet Singh has extraordinary power
00:46:16.180 and has been propping up a terrible government that, again, in my opinion, should have been
00:46:20.340 toppled years ago, at least one, maybe two years ago. Um, and so it's interesting to see that even
00:46:26.820 NDP members and sort of, uh, people who used to, you know, hold positions of power in that party,
00:46:33.380 uh, feel the same way. So, uh, do you think that this is a sentiment that's broadly felt across
00:46:39.860 the sort of base of the NDP party? Do you think that this is more something that's bothering
00:46:44.020 people at the top? Let me describe, uh, your interactions with other members of your party
00:46:49.060 and how people are viewing this. Yeah. My strong belief is that this is
00:46:54.660 how the vast majority of NDP voters, the vast majority of NDP members, pretty much everybody
00:47:02.260 outside of the Ottawa club, uh, feels, uh, it took us four days to get thousand people to sign
00:47:10.660 our petition. Uh, so, and we'd always hear people saying like, Hey, it's great that you're, uh, that
00:47:18.020 you're doing that. So, so my, my strong impression is at least in the NDP circles, people agree with you.
00:47:26.340 Well, I mean, it just seems so obvious. It's like, you know, Trump is coming in with a mandate from the
00:47:30.500 people to be tough on this kind of thing. And so, you know, you know, that he's in firm, in firm
00:47:36.100 positions with his, uh, you know, with his country and what he's doing, whereas Canada doesn't really
00:47:40.420 have a government. I mean, things have just gotten worse since Justin Trudeau has resigned because
00:47:44.100 rather than trigger an election and letting Canadians decide who our next prime minister
00:47:47.780 will be, it's now the liberal insiders that get to choose who the next prime minister will be,
00:47:52.820 who will be at the table across from Donald Trump negotiating this. So how was your petition and
00:47:58.020 your letter met? You mentioned there that Jagmeet Singh is now suing you. Uh, so why don't you walk us
00:48:03.460 through what happened after you submitted your petition to the party? Yeah, they're very
00:48:08.100 unreceptive. Uh, their, their perspective is we, or at least what they stated is we need to stop
00:48:16.420 that's kind of how they think about it. Um, how we think about it is what is the best thing for
00:48:22.260 Canadians? What is the best thing for working class Canadians? I think that's probably how you
00:48:26.980 think about it. That's how most Canadians would think about it. That's not how they think about it.
00:48:31.700 They think about how are we going to stop the Conservatives? Um, and you know, a really good
00:48:38.340 example of how they reacted that they, uh, sent me threatening legal letters, uh, personally, uh,
00:48:45.860 afterwards. Well, if you're anything like me, that would just motivate me even more, uh, to raise these
00:48:51.460 kinds of issues. So if Jagmeet Singh is not willing to listen to members of his own party and do what's
00:48:56.980 best for Canadians, I mean, it's kind of wild at this point that he thinks Polyev is the biggest
00:49:00.660 threat to the country, given that what Justin Trudeau has put us through, uh, for the last nine
00:49:05.220 years and specifically for the last two or three years, uh, with the economy. Um, like at what point
00:49:12.340 will your party just oust this leader and say, listen, if you're not going to look out for the best
00:49:17.220 interests of the Canadian people and the members of the NDP, you can't leave this party anymore.
00:49:22.020 There was a lot of pushback on Jagmeet around the, uh, what they call it, the new thing that they call
00:49:30.260 the war measures act, the, the emergencies act. There's a tremendous amount of pushback internally,
00:49:37.940 uh, not publicly at the time. And nobody came out publicly for a variety of reasons. Part of it,
00:49:45.700 presumably is that these guys are super hostile and they'll, they'll threaten to sue you if you talk
00:49:51.140 out, uh, speak out against them. Um, and, and it's, uh, it does like, I think one of the things that
00:49:59.940 you could, you know, see as a non new Democrat is that people are, have been upset for a long time
00:50:07.460 over how Jagmeet is essentially not a new Democrat, right? He, the supposed leader of the party, but is he
00:50:16.100 left wing? How is he left wing? Uh, how is he a new Democrat? Like how the NDP is a party, the only
00:50:22.660 party that opposed the war measures act, uh, against in the, the elder. Uh, and for some reason they,
00:50:32.580 they didn't, they supported the, this using the same, you know, extrajudicial powers, uh, against
00:50:40.020 protesters. Um, that was really odd. That was very non NDP. Uh, nobody spoke out publicly that I know
00:50:48.900 of. Um, you know, that again, they're doing something completely insane in my opinion right
00:50:54.580 now. And the difference is that folks are, are speaking out right now. It's just me. Uh, you know,
00:51:00.500 we have other issues and, uh, soon we're going to start having, you know, more senior people from,
00:51:07.940 from, uh, from the party coming out, uh, and, um, and speaking up. Well, I'm glad you noticed it too,
00:51:15.220 because from my perspective, it's like, in what world is an NDP leader, the one that's just so,
00:51:20.340 you know, interested in power and self-preservation that they're willing to put up with like unbelievable
00:51:26.020 civil liberties assaults. Uh, it seems like the party really has shifted sort of to the cosmopolitan
00:51:31.380 center, uh, rather than representing the sort of blue collar, uh, concerns, working class
00:51:37.700 concerns, uh, that the, the party traditionally aligned with. Look, I mean, I won't complain
00:51:42.740 because it's probably good for the conservatives since many of those voters are heading on over,
00:51:46.580 uh, to the political right. We saw this with Donald Trump as well, but it seems to me that
00:51:51.700 this is a historic opportunity for new Democrats because the liberals have just been so God awful.
00:51:57.620 Like they've put the country through such hell over the last nine years that I imagine that the
00:52:02.820 party will get decimated in the next election. I imagine that Canadians will want to send a 1.00
00:52:07.300 message of fury to prime minister, Justin Trudeau, something that the liberals have not seen. Like
00:52:11.780 I could imagine, uh, the party getting wiped out similarly to the way that the progressive
00:52:16.340 conservatives got wiped out in 1993. Um, the only problem is that the alternative
00:52:22.980 is, is sort of part of the same bandit, right? Like, like,
00:52:26.420 Jagmeet Singh has propped up the government, uh, for the last several years, uh, two minority
00:52:31.460 situations in a row. And so it's like, well, who, who are we going to send a message to? Um,
00:52:36.260 there isn't a great alternative, whereas the NDP, you know, with a different leader and, and with a
00:52:40.260 different message, um, could, could be poised to do what they did back in 2011, uh, with, I think the,
00:52:45.700 the leader that you worked with Jack Layton, uh, where he really, you know, captured the imagination,
00:52:50.820 especially in Quebec. And we saw that big orange wave. Um, it's too bad that the, uh, NDP isn't
00:52:56.740 better positioned. Um, hopefully you can help, uh, fix, fix, fix that party and, and, uh, you know,
00:53:02.740 create a better alternative. Uh, what, what, what do you think of all of that?
00:53:06.020 Justin Trudeau I, I, I, I 100% agree with what you're saying. I'll, I'll give you a story
00:53:10.820 that kind of like illustrates that your point. I, when I worked for Jack, I would constantly try to
00:53:17.220 get him to wear nicer ties and he would refuse to wear nicer ties. He was like a really working class
00:53:24.580 guy. Um, eventually I convinced them to wear nicer ties by just giving him all of my ties.
00:53:31.940 And in the 2011 campaign, he campaigned with my ties and I actually lost all my ties because as you
00:53:38.100 know, he passed away and, uh, you know, it was a little bit rude to go and try to take my ties back.
00:53:42.580 Um, that is completely the opposite of Jagmeet who's, you know, on the cover of GQ
00:53:50.020 walking around Versace bags, right? Like Jack Layton was a new Democrat. If Jagmeet is the complete
00:53:56.900 opposite, um, in my opinion, he's just not like, he's not leading the NDP. He's off on a tangent and,
00:54:07.140 um, sooner we can get rid of him. I think the better it'll be for, for the party. And
00:54:12.660 there's a great opportunity right now, as you say, where, uh, the, the liberal party is collapsing.
00:54:19.140 Uh, you know, if they end up with Chrystia Freeland and she's a disaster, if they end up with Mark
00:54:24.340 Carney, I mean, this is like a banker from London, like the time for the NDP to shine. Uh, they're going
00:54:31.540 to fail in, uh, in the next election, but there is an opportunity. And I hope we can, you know,
00:54:39.060 move the party in a direction where the opportunity can be taken advantage of, uh, you know, to rebuild
00:54:45.140 and hopefully end up with a system like in the UK, where you have the labor and the conservative
00:54:50.260 party. That's the natural way it should be. Uh, and there's no reason why we can't create that,
00:54:56.660 that future as, uh, as new Democrats, um, other than the fact we have just a horrible leader.
00:55:03.220 Right. Well, for, pardon my ignorance on this, but what is the mechanism for ousting a party leader
00:55:08.740 in the new Democrats? Do you have to wait until after an election for a leadership review? I mean,
00:55:11.940 you mentioned the Versace bags true North, uh, broke a story last month of Jagmeet Singh
00:55:17.380 jumping into a Maserati on Parliament Hill. We're talking about like a hundred thousand plus dollar
00:55:22.420 vehicle. Um, and he, he said it wasn't his, but he didn't say whose it was. I mean, it's not like you,
00:55:27.620 you call Uber and they send a Maserati. Like it was obviously someone in his family or in,
00:55:32.660 in his entourage driving around in a vehicle like that, uh, doesn't really say, uh, Hey,
00:55:37.700 I'm out looking out for the best interest of working Canadians. Uh, how, how, how would your
00:55:42.580 party go about getting rid of, uh, this individual as leader? Yeah. It's like the liberal party of
00:55:49.540 Canada. It's not really clear how you ask the leader in the new democratic party. Uh, the members
00:55:55.860 can do that at conventions. So you can have a leadership review pretty easily. Um, so the
00:56:02.180 kind of like mechanics to do it are easy. The challenge is, you know, organizing people to go
00:56:09.140 and, um, and, and actually vote and you need to, um, it's just not in the DNA of the party to kind of
00:56:16.580 shiv its leaders. Like the liberals just did to, uh, to Justin. Uh, well, and the conservatives did to
00:56:23.460 Aaron O'Toole not, not too long after he lost the 2021 election. So, uh, the conservatives were
00:56:28.660 brave enough to do it, ended up with a better leader. Uh, hopefully, uh, somehow your party
00:56:33.700 will figure out a way to, um, move on in that same way. Well, uh, Julian, it's great to talk to you.
00:56:38.420 Thanks for joining, uh, the Canis Welcome Show. I hope to have you on again soon and thank you, uh,
00:56:42.580 for your efforts for Canadians. Thank you.
00:56:45.300 Well, that was a great interview. I appreciate Julian Neumann's time. Maybe you'll say, Hey,
00:56:51.380 Canis, stop giving advice to the far left party. Like we don't want them to have a better leader.
00:56:55.860 Uh, we want them to go down in flames as well. Uh, look, I, I want nothing more than for NDP and
00:57:02.340 Dugmeet Singh to go down in flames. They absolutely deserve it for what they put Canadians through,
00:57:06.740 but eventually people on the left, left-minded Canadians will want an alternative. Uh, I hope many
00:57:12.500 of them will come over to the right. I hope many of them will vote for Pierre Polyev and help us
00:57:16.260 usher in a better government in Canada. Uh, but the ones that are staunch lefties, they deserve
00:57:21.460 better leadership. They deserve someone who will represent their interests. Just like I think that
00:57:25.780 Canada would be better off if we had a liberal party that was a little bit more right wing, a little bit
00:57:29.780 better on issues like spending and immigration, because it would force the conservatives to be even
00:57:33.780 better. I think that the left deserves a party, um, that is connected to the working class,
00:57:38.980 that is connected to the concerns of working class people. Uh, and that is not Jagmeet Singh.
00:57:44.260 Jagmeet Singh has been an absolute horrendous, uh, leader and, uh, his, his, his legacy in Canada
00:57:51.780 will not be a good one. All right. I'll leave it at that. Thank you so much everyone for tuning in.
00:57:55.540 We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thank you. I'm Candace Malcolm,
00:57:58.820 and this is the Candace Malcolm show. God bless.