The Candice Malcolm Show - A Trade War will DESTROY Canada

00:00:00.000 Hi, and welcome to The Candace Malcolm Show. I'm your host, Candace Malcolm. Wow, what a weekend,

00:00:12.960 folks. We have so much news to get to. And wow, things are just happening so fast here. So as you

00:00:19.440 saw on Saturday night, Donald Trump did what he said he was going to do. Trump introduced tariffs

00:00:25.560 on Canadian goods. So 10% on oil, 25% on everything else. That means that anything made in Canada and

00:00:32.680 sold into the United States will face a new 25% tax. The tax will be paid by American consumers.

00:00:39.880 But by design, the new high tax will make our Canadian products less competitive, more or less

00:00:46.040 forcing Americans to purchase other products made in the USA. That means that anything produced in

00:00:52.280 Canada will no longer have access to the free market to sell in the US to the American market.

00:00:58.760 Now, make no mistake, this will be absolutely devastating. Canadian exports into the United

00:01:04.200 States make up about 19% of our entire economy. It's about $440 billion per year. But Prime Minister

00:01:11.720 Justin Trudeau, who let me remind you if you need reminding, he resigned on January 6, and he has no

00:01:18.200 business leading this negotiation. But because we haven't had an election, we're stuck with him.

00:01:24.280 And he has reacted in kind. He announced on Saturday night that Canada will introduce our own 25%

00:01:30.440 tariffs on American goods. Now, again, let's be clear. This is a 25% tax paid by Canadians on goods

00:01:39.160 imported from the United States into Canada. That's about 44% of all imports which come from the United

00:01:45.880 States. So Trump's tariffs mean that Canadian businesses will go bankrupt and Canadians will

00:01:51.320 lose jobs. But these retaliatory Canadian tariffs introduced by Justin Trudeau will mean that the

00:01:57.720 price of absolutely everything in our country is about to go up once again. So yes, on top of the GST,

00:02:04.600 the HST, on top of the carbon tax, and on top of the inflationary tax brought on by big government

00:02:10.600 spending borrowing and the printing of money, Canadians will now pay an additional 25% tax on

00:02:16.760 most goods sold in Canada. Folks, this will bankrupt millions of Canadians, it will plunge our struggling

00:02:24.120 loony even lower, and it will create, undoubtedly, it will create a recession. Trudeau has destroyed

00:02:31.480 Canada. And now on his way out, he's pouring gasoline onto a raging fire. Now equally as infuriating

00:02:38.840 to Trudeau's retaliatory tariff tax is the fact that the new tax is being applauded, cheered on and

00:02:46.040 applauded by the entire political class, Laurentian elites and Canadians alike. There's a weird consensus

00:02:53.000 in Canadian politics right now that Trump is a villain, that Trudeau struck the right tone in

00:02:58.040 his Saturday evening address, and that retaliatory tariffs are the only option. Justin Trudeau, Mark

00:03:04.520 Carney, Pierre Polyev, Doug Ford, and just about every pundit and journalist in the legacy media

00:03:10.360 all agree. Well, unfortunately for Canada, they are all wrong. A trade war will destroy every Canadian,

00:03:18.040 it will destroy our country, as much as it hurts, as much disdain as we may have for Donald Trump,

00:03:23.480 or believe that he is a bully. The only way to save Canada is to find a way to negotiate a deal

00:03:30.600 with Donald Trump. The whole concept of bullies only respond to strength or that we need to fight

00:03:35.960 fire with fire is wrong in this instance. Trump is a 500 pound gorilla. If you provoke him, he will tear

00:03:44.440 you apart limb by limb. We've seen this movie before. Trump will double and triple down. He will, he will

00:03:51.480 introduce more and more tariffs. Look, Donald Trump has a sweeping mandate in his country right now. Americans

00:03:58.200 want the border secured and they want to make better economic deals to keep American jobs. That's the

00:04:05.080 reality. And this is where Trudeau's strategy from day one, from the day that Donald Trump won the election

00:04:11.800 has been absolutely catastrophic. Remember, Trump first commented on the tariffs in late November. Right after

00:04:20.200 that, Justin Trudeau hopped on a plane to visit Trump at his residence in Florida at Mar-a-Lago. But things

00:04:26.280 didn't go very well for Trudeau. It seems that Trudeau angered Trump. He provoked him. He poked

00:04:32.440 the proverbial bear. And perhaps most damagingly of all, Justin Trudeau told Trump that a 25% tariff

00:04:40.680 would kill the Canadian economy. That is what Trump said, that Trudeau told him that it would kill

00:04:47.000 our economy and kill our country. Here is Fox News' Peter Doocy reporting at the time.

00:04:52.520 And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump-Trudeau dinner from two people who were

00:04:58.440 at the table. We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill

00:05:05.000 the Canadian economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the U.S.

00:05:10.760 to the tune of $100 billion a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau

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00:05:51.640 So why would Justin Trudeau say that? Why would he tell Trump Canada's greatest weakness? It seems

00:05:58.280 to me that as soon as Trudeau put that idea into Trump's head that Canada can't survive as an economy

00:06:04.280 or as a country without America, well, Trump decided to test the theory. Now that interaction

00:06:11.000 between Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau led to Justin Trudeau more or less firing his finance

00:06:16.520 minister, Chrystia Freeland, who then resigned a few days later. And a few days after that,

00:06:21.080 Justin Trudeau himself resigned. Trudeau got us into this mess and he sure won't be the one to get us out

00:06:27.640 of it. So now he's cynically digging in his feet and destroying our entire economy and our country and our

00:06:33.640 place in the world just to try to win back support for his liberal party. It makes me sick. Well,

00:06:40.200 Trump said that if Canada retaliates with our own tariffs, then so will America. It's right there in

00:06:46.840 black and white in Trump's executive order on trade. So here we are with a crippled economy waiting for

00:06:53.960 the final death blow from Trump. Okay, so what should Canada do? Well, let me tell you what I would do.

00:07:01.240 First, I would lock down the borders, I would close immigration entirely, and I would start swiftly

00:07:06.760 deporting anybody in our country illegally, anyone in our country that is on a terror watch list,

00:07:13.160 and any foreigner convicted in the drug trade. We have to take this seriously. We need to secure

00:07:19.000 our border, secure our country, get the bad guys out. Second, I would stop all drugs coming and going

00:07:26.040 from Canada. We would relentlessly go after those making the drugs, moving the drugs, those importing

00:07:31.560 and exporting the drugs across our shared border with the United States. Canada needs to arrest,

00:07:38.120 prosecute and deport any foreign criminals. And number three, we need to crack down on regime-sponsored

00:07:44.760 criminal gangs in Canada, including Chinese, Sikh, Mexican, Iranian and any other foreign gangs operating

00:07:51.240 in Canada. We need to beef up our law enforcement and go hard against criminals. We need to clean up

00:07:57.560 our country. And then after that, yes, there is an opportunity, as Pierre Polyev has been advocating for,

00:08:03.800 to truly free our economy and start to recover from the 10 disastrous Trudeau years. This was again

00:08:10.200 suggested by Pierre Polyev. So what do we have to do? First, break down interprovincial trade barriers and

00:08:15.320 truly free up our country. Number two, we need to open up our oil exports by building pipelines,

00:08:21.560 terminals, seaports and allowing our oil to get to other markets. Number three, we need to massively

00:08:28.280 lower taxes and make Canada more competitive. Finally, we need to rebuild our military, finally

00:08:34.600 hit that 2% of GDP goal. It is long overdue. It is embarrassing. Canada needs to build up its military.

00:08:41.800 And now, when it comes to dealing with Donald Trump, I believe that Pierre Polyev should jump

00:08:46.920 on an airplane to Washington yesterday. He should do it as soon as possible. He should do it now

00:08:51.880 to meet with President Donald Trump. He hasn't done it so far. I get that there's some risk,

00:08:56.360 but I think that Pierre Polyev has to do it. He has to try to negotiate a better deal. So here is how

00:09:02.040 Canada's Conservative leader, Pierre Polyev, can avert disaster, save Canada and get an early election at

00:09:08.200 the same time. So look, on Saturday night during his speech, Justin Trudeau said he admitted that

00:09:14.840 Donald Trump will not take his calls. Trump is done with Trudeau. I don't blame him. As far as I'm

00:09:20.600 concerned, as far as most people's concerned, Trudeau is on the way out. He should be treated as

00:09:24.920 irrelevant. Remember, he resigned. Usually when you resign, it means you leave. But Trudeau didn't leave.

00:09:30.520 Instead, he prorogued parliament so his own party could rebuild. This is anti-democratic. It makes Trudeau

00:09:37.160 illegitimate in the eyes of many, including presumably Donald Trump. Now, the country is on

00:09:42.360 a knife's edge and Trudeau, with the full backing of Canada's corrupted media and the Laurentian elites,

00:09:48.200 is betraying Canada's best interest. Polyev should hop on the plane and tell Trump these important

00:09:53.640 facts. He should plead with Trump. He should tell Trump to please wait. Wait until Justin Trudeau leaves.

00:09:59.480 Wait until there's an election. Trudeau is on his way out. He is loathed and despised by many Canadians,

00:10:05.320 and he is no longer legitimate. Polyev should assure Donald Trump that on March 24th,

00:10:10.680 parliament will come back and the Liberals will lose a confidence vote, triggering an election.

00:10:15.640 At that point, Pierre Polyev is projected to win a sweeping majority. And by May 2025, God willing,

00:10:23.560 Polyev will be the prime minister and in a position to strike the better deal. Polyev should tell Trump

00:10:28.920 that his first priority in government will be to return Canada to having strict immigration rules,

00:10:35.320 securing the border and introducing the harshest penalties in the world against drug dealers and

00:10:40.600 criminal enterprises, and also commit to growing our military to help protect the North and contribute

00:10:46.520 our share to securing the hemisphere. Now, Polyev can strike a new deal with Trump. It would look

00:10:52.360 something like this. Wait for the election. Pierre Polyev wins. Give us 90 days to fix this mess. If

00:10:58.120 Polyev can fix it, then no tariffs. Now, if Polyev loses the election and it remains to be Liberal rule,

00:11:03.640 or if Polyev fails to fix the mess, then Trump can introduce the tariffs as planned. Now, could you

00:11:09.320 imagine what this would do? Imagine the possible upside for Polyev. If Trump were to come out and say,

00:11:14.680 okay, I'll pause the tariffs until there is an election in Canada. Let the democratic process play out.

00:11:21.400 That would force Trudeau to actually walk away and actually have an election, which is what we all

00:11:27.320 want. Pierre Polyev would go down in history as the most successful prime minister elect in history

00:11:33.240 by saving the country from an economic disaster, a calamity of a trade war before he was ever even

00:11:40.360 elected. Look, I think it would work. And that is what I think Polyev should do. Okay, let's get to the

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00:12:26.440 comments section, and please continue to support the show. So let's get to the latest news. As we saw,

00:12:33.160 hours after President Donald Trump imposed a 25% tariff, Justin Trudeau announced that Canada would

00:12:39.880 react in kind. So Canada will place retaliatory tariffs on $155 billion of American goods, including

00:12:47.080 alcohol, clothing, appliances, and food products. Trudeau said that the first wave, $30 billion,

00:12:52.440 will start on Tuesday, and the remaining will come down the next 21 days. And so predictably, folks,

00:13:01.160 Donald Trump isn't happy. Donald Trump isn't happy. So after seeing Justin Trudeau's response,

00:13:06.680 on Sunday, Trump took to Truth Social, and he wrote this, we pay hundreds of billions of dollars

00:13:13.100 to subsidize Canada. Why? There is no reason. We don't need anything they have. We have unlimited

00:13:19.120 energy. We should make our own cars. We have more lumber than they could ever use. Without this

00:13:24.160 massive subsidy, Canada ceases to exist as a viable country. Again, he's just quoting

00:13:30.140 Justin Trudeau there, folks, according to reports. He's just saying what Trudeau already said to him.

00:13:35.920 This is harsh but true. Therefore, Canada should become our cherished 51st state, much lower taxes,

00:13:42.460 far better military protection for the Canadian people, and no tariffs. So Trump is really tripling

00:13:49.060 down, provoking Canada the best he can. He knows that the 51st state thing really gets under our skin,

00:13:54.880 and so he is pushing it and pushing it. And it is frustrating. It is, you know, I'm not happy to

00:14:01.540 see this. But the reality is that Canada is in this mess because of Justin Trudeau, because of the mess

00:14:07.960 that he has made over the past 10 years, Trump, again, speaking to reporters at the joint base,

00:14:14.740 Andrews, air base in Maryland, he had this to say about Canada.

00:14:19.960 Are you planning to agree to tariff against Canada?

00:14:23.940 Well, it could happen. If they do anything, we will. Canada's been very abusive of the United States

00:14:29.480 for many years. They don't allow our banks. Did you know that? Canada does not allow banks

00:14:34.900 to go in. If you think about it, that's pretty amazing. If we have a U.S. bank,

00:14:39.960 they don't allow them to go in. Canada's been very tough on oil, on energy. They don't allow our farm

00:14:45.960 products in, essentially. They don't allow a lot of things in, and we allow everything to come in.

00:14:51.780 It's been a one-way street. We subsidize Canada by the tune of about $200 billion a year. And for what?

00:15:00.160 What do we get out of it? We don't get anything out of it. I love the people of Canada.

00:15:04.160 I disagree with the leadership of Canada. And something's going to happen there.

00:15:10.400 But if they wanted to play the game, I don't mind. We can play the game all they want.

00:15:14.500 See, he says, I disagree with the leadership of Canada. Again, Trump wants regime change in Canada.

00:15:22.000 And the Canadians want it too. We need an election. All of this is just pointing to an election.

00:15:27.420 Trump says they're willing to play the game. They are a much bigger economy than we are.

00:15:31.040 Like, they're going to win. And I don't understand why everyone in Canada

00:15:34.460 believes that we should continue down this path. Now, not everybody is saying that. You know,

00:15:39.480 the political classes, the journalists are. But I did find some business leaders who disagree.

00:15:44.240 This is Toby Lutke, who is the founder and CEO of Shopify. And this is what he wrote on X.

00:15:50.020 He wrote, I am disappointed that the Trump administration plays 25% tariffs.

00:15:53.700 I'm disappointed that this is our government response. I love Canada and I want it to thrive.

00:15:58.340 I built Canada's biggest tech company here because I know it's a special place.

00:16:02.000 Canada thrives when it works with America together. Win by helping America win.

00:16:06.820 Trump believes that Canada has not held its side of the bargain.

00:16:09.760 He set the terms to prove that we still work together. Get the border under control

00:16:14.080 and crack down on fentanyl dents. These are things that every Canadian wants the government

00:16:19.120 to do too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source.

00:16:24.220 These tariffs are going to be devastating to so many people's lives and small businesses.

00:16:28.760 Action has to be judged based on what it leads to, not how good it feels. Leadership is about doing

00:16:33.940 what's right, not what is popular. And hitting back will not lead to anything good.

00:16:39.240 America will shrug it off. Canada will decline. It's simply the wrong choice in a possibility of

00:16:45.660 space where much better options would have been available. Exactly right. And sadly, I don't know

00:16:53.700 that people are heeding that call, but I think that it would be wise for Canada to understand that

00:16:59.840 America can withstand this. Yeah, they might pay some higher taxes. Yeah, they might pay higher prices

00:17:04.660 at the store, but it won't destroy them in the way that it will destroy Canada. Another comment I wanted

00:17:09.700 to point out was Kirk Lubinoff on X on Saturday. He wrote, just for context, American tariffs on Canada

00:17:15.900 are equal to about 10% of Canada's GDP. Canada's retaliation on the US equals about 0.5% of America's

00:17:24.440 GDP. So just give you some context about what this will do. Well, it seems that Canada's reaction

00:17:30.700 is basically just to tell America that our feelings are hurt and that this is just a really

00:17:36.760 bad idea. That at least is the message being conveyed by Chrystia Freeland, a liberal leader

00:17:42.940 hopeful, who was on CNN over the weekend talking to Fareed Zakaria, basically just whining and

00:17:49.200 complaining and crying that this is hurting our feelings. Americans have to understand how hurt

00:17:56.360 and frankly how furious Canadians are. Our sovereignty is being challenged. And so yeah,

00:18:03.220 regular Canadians across the country are coming up with ways to stand for Canada, to fight for Canada,

00:18:09.740 to defend Canada, but mostly to say to our American neighbors, guys, just cut it out. Just stop it.

00:18:16.320 This is a terrible idea. And yes, we are going to use all the tools in our toolbox. You mentioned a

00:18:22.200 little bit earlier how the United States depends on China, critical minerals and metals that you need

00:18:27.920 for semiconductors, that you need to build electric vehicles. Well, guess who also produces those?

00:18:34.480 Canada. You depend on us for a lot and we are happy to work together, but it's got to be a two-way street.

00:18:41.940 Stomping her feet, puffing her breath, saying, this isn't fair, guys. This isn't fair. This is a terrible

00:18:48.240 idea. That's not going to cut it. Okay. That's just going to make Americans mock us on the way down.

00:18:53.900 We need a serious reaction. We need serious leadership. Pierre Polyev is doubling down on

00:18:58.860 his idea that Canada just needs an election. We need to get rid of Trudeau. We need to get rid of

00:19:02.980 this terrible liberal government. They shouldn't be negotiating for us. Now, like I said, there's not

00:19:06.900 a lot of daylight between Polyev and Trudeau's plan when it comes to the trade war. They both agree

00:19:13.640 with retaliatory dollar for dollar tariffs against the United States, against imports. I think that's

00:19:19.540 a very bad idea. But aside from that, Pierre Polyev is calling on a more comprehensive plan

00:19:26.080 with aspects of it that I agree. So first, he says retaliate dollar for dollar. Second, he says put

00:19:31.240 tariffs on American steel and aluminum so we can bring home production of those things to our country.

00:19:36.020 Three, he says pass an immediate emergency bring it home tax cut. I'm with you on that one.

00:19:40.600 Number four, he says scrap the liberal anti-energy laws. I'm with you on that. Number five, knock

00:19:46.160 down interprovincial trade barriers. Yes, I'm with you. Six, rebuild our military. With you on that.

00:19:50.920 And seven, we must lock arms with American economic interests that favor Canada. Workers and businesses

00:19:57.060 that depend on trade with Canada should be marshaled to pressure the administration to back down. Yet,

00:20:02.820 there are allies in the United States. There are allies that understand that this will hurt

00:20:06.740 certain pockets and certain segments of the United States. I don't know that that's going to help

00:20:10.900 convince Trump. I think you need to go right to the source, Pierre. I think you need to go

00:20:14.880 and talk to Donald Trump directly. Now, Pierre was speaking at a press conference in Vancouver

00:20:19.880 on Sunday. And he, again, criticized the liberals because yes, this is Justin Trudeau's fault for the

00:20:27.660 way he has negotiated with Donald Trump. It's also 10 years of terrible, terrible policies

00:20:32.880 by Justin Trudeau that has led to the situation where we actually don't have any other options.

00:20:37.300 We don't have the option to just go trade with other people because Trudeau's economic,

00:20:41.960 environmental regime has basically made it so that we can't export things. We can't reach other

00:20:47.780 markets. So here is Polyev making that point.

00:20:51.620 You mentioned the economic jeopardy for American refinery workers in your remarks. Is Canada's

00:20:57.020 negotiating position today still weakened without the prospect of restrictions or export taxes on its

00:21:01.180 biggest export by far, energy and crude oil?

00:21:04.540 Well, I think the reason that Justin Trudeau has refused to answer that question and the

00:21:10.240 reason why numerous Quebec leaders have surprisingly, to some might be surprised to learn, have come

00:21:15.580 out against it is because it's not clear how Western oil would actually make it to Quebec given

00:21:23.440 that the oil we transport from Western Canada to Quebec goes through the United States, goes down

00:21:30.160 to the United States through lines 5 and 9 and back up to Quebec. Of course, Eastern Canada has to

00:21:35.800 import a lot of Eastern American oil because we don't have a transnational pipeline.

00:21:42.020 Furthermore, we don't export any of our natural gas to any country other than the United States

00:21:47.240 because the government here has blocked LNG export plants. So the question then becomes where else would

00:21:54.800 we export our oil and gas?

00:21:56.440 So, yes, that is absolutely true.

00:22:00.440 And Canada needs to fix basically our entire economic regime. So this doesn't happen again.

00:22:06.080 We need to get our products to market. We need to figure out a way to trade with other people, to build

00:22:11.240 pipelines, to build infrastructure. So this doesn't happen in the future. Now, fixing those things won't

00:22:16.080 help us today. They might help us in the future, in a future war. And the thing that we need to fix

00:22:21.080 today is making a deal with Trump, not having a trade war. I want to point out a bit of fake news from that

00:22:26.560 same press conference of Pierre Polyev. We have the CBC asking the most CBC question possible. I don't know if

00:22:33.280 this was a misunderstanding or what, but the reporter basically just asks Polyev, this is a quote, will you

00:22:38.840 step aside and not compete for the head of the country? Like what? Why would Pierre do that? He's running to be

00:22:45.140 the prime minister. He is winning, according to all the polls. Why on earth would he step aside to

00:22:50.780 allow Justin Trudeau to continue driving Canada off a cliff? Makes no sense. And hence why, you know,

00:22:57.620 you can always rely on the CBC for asking the stupidest question possible. Here's that clip.

00:23:02.700 You have talked about...

00:23:03.900 Or we just know sometimes we like to hear from local media.

00:23:07.480 Do you believe the government's promise of $155 billion in counter tariffs is enough? And what would

00:23:13.380 you do differently to get the president to change course? And to clarify your last question, are you

00:23:17.940 saying that you would step aside and not compete for the head of the country to allow us to get

00:23:22.820 through this crisis? Or I'm unclear about your answer to the last question?

00:23:27.300 Well, I find it a strange question. CBC is asking me to step aside in the next election.

00:23:33.240 It's a very strange request. No, we're not going to suspend democracy. The Canadian people run this

00:23:40.580 country and they will choose the next prime minister. Thank you very much. Next question.

00:23:45.720 Perfect answer there by Pierre. Again, I don't know if the journalist just didn't quite understand

00:23:50.300 or maybe she misspoke, but why would you ask the leader of the opposition to step aside and not

00:23:55.180 compete in the election? Makes absolutely no sense. I'm sure that's what the CBC would like though,

00:24:00.180 because, well, Pierre said he's going to defund the CBC. So I can't blame them for trying to

00:24:05.620 knock him out on their way out. Okay. Danielle Smith, premier of Alberta, who I think has had

00:24:11.100 the best response to this entire crisis the entire time. She penned an op-ed in the National

00:24:16.320 Post, which ran on Sunday morning. She wrote how Team Canada can overcome the Trump tariffs. Now,

00:24:22.700 I think Danielle Smith has some source credibility here. She is the one that has gone down to Mar-a-Lago.

00:24:28.140 She's the one that's negotiated with Trump. Presumably the reason that there's only a 10%

00:24:32.500 tariff on oil and not a 25% is because of the advocacy and the work that Daniel Smith has done.

00:24:38.780 I mean, it's not much, but hey, 15% is a big deal. Oh, and as a reminder, check out our live stream.

00:24:45.180 We did a live stream. We went live to the audience on Saturday evening, right after Justin Trudeau

00:24:50.180 gave his remarks. I was joined by the Counter Signals, Kian Bexty, and we had our live reaction.

00:24:54.940 So if you missed that over the weekend, go check it out so you can see all of our live,

00:24:58.900 fresh reaction. Back to Danielle Smith and the op-ed that she wrote. She writes this as Premier of

00:25:04.400 Alberta, I am calling on my fellow premiers, the Prime Minister, and all of our national leaders

00:25:08.740 to de-escalate the rhetoric as much as possible and to look to diplomacy and advocacy as a primary

00:25:16.260 tools to resolve this conflict. Absolutely right. Danielle Smith is absolutely correct in calling for

00:25:21.940 everyone to just calm down. Look, as much fun as it is, as much as it feels good right now to wave the

00:25:27.640 flag, to boo the national anthem during American sports, to go to your grocery store and berate

00:25:33.400 people who are buying American products, none of that stuff is going to save us. None of that is

00:25:37.620 going to save us. It's not going to help. It's not going to get us through this. The only thing that

00:25:41.700 will is trying to de-escalate and trying to use diplomacy. Smith continues. She writes,

00:25:47.500 I am planning to return to Washington, D.C. twice more this month to participate in the Republican

00:25:52.040 Governor's Convention and to visit with dozens of elected and administrative officials.

00:25:56.080 I will never stop telling Alberta's and Canada's story to our friends and allies south of the

00:26:00.360 border. I encourage all elected Canadian leaders to do the same. She goes on, if we were going to

00:26:05.820 thrive as a nation again, if we are going to control our own destiny independent of the actions of other

00:26:11.860 countries, then we must stop limiting our prosperity and inflicting economic wounds. Canada can and must

00:26:17.420 come together in an unprecedented effort to unleash the true economic potential of our country,

00:26:22.540 which possesses more wealth and natural resources than any other nation on earth.

00:26:27.020 I call on the federal government, my fellow premiers, to immediately commence a national

00:26:31.040 joint effort to fast track and rebuild multiple oil and gas pipelines east, west, and north to the

00:26:38.260 coast of Canada, construct multiple LNG terminals to each coast using steel from Ontario and Quebec

00:26:46.000 and workers from every part of the country. She says, let's unleash the development of critical

00:26:50.500 minerals in every province and territory by fast tracking government approvals. Let's free our

00:26:57.000 nation's entrepreneurial spirit by lowering absurdly high taxes, reducing red tape, and tearing down

00:27:03.160 interprovincial barriers once and for all. Look, folks, Daniel Smith here is exactly right. And these are the

00:27:09.900 kind of things that will help in the long term. But unfortunately, as she wrote right up top, the thing

00:27:16.360 that's going to save us today is democracy and striking a deal with Donald Trump. That's what we

00:27:22.620 need. That is what will save us today. All right. And I want to bring on a guest today to help us make

00:27:28.900 sense of all the crazy things that are happening in the country right now. I'm really pleased to be joined

00:27:33.180 by an individual first time on the podcast, I think first time on a True North podcast. I'm joined today

00:27:38.340 by Jasper Sunshine, aka Mr. Sunshine Baby. So Jasper is a Canadian YouTube personality and political

00:27:46.100 commentator. You have to watch his YouTube shows. They are so entertaining. And he has a huge, huge

00:27:51.240 following of people. So Jasper is a Canadian. He's served in the military for nearly nine years.

00:27:56.920 And after his military service, he embraced a nomadic lifestyle, living in a van for about four years

00:28:02.520 before transitioning to residing in a trailer. His, like I said, his YouTube channel is lots of fun.

00:28:07.760 So you should go check it out, Mr. Sunshine Baby. So Jasper, thank you so much for joining the podcast

00:28:11.740 this morning. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. Okay. So I mean, what's your, what's your instant

00:28:17.180 reaction to everything that's happened over the past weekend? Wow. I mean, there is so much

00:28:22.620 divisiveness in Canada. You're talking about people that are just without this weekend,

00:28:29.120 supporting Trudeau or against Trudeau. So already the country's split in half. And now it feels like

00:28:34.080 people are having to choose between becoming a part of America or supporting Trump or standing

00:28:40.060 up against that. So now the right is even more divided than ever. And there's just so many moving

00:28:45.400 parts and it's, it's happening so fast. And I think that, I think that now we have to band together

00:28:53.540 more than ever. And to have some form of a Canada first team Canada approach where it doesn't matter

00:29:01.160 if you're left or if you're right. I think that we all have to come together and figure out a way

00:29:07.620 to rebuild Canada. We are extremely fractured and I'll be the first to admit. I love America. I've

00:29:16.000 always been pro America. I've worked with Americans in the military. I love traveling to America. I think

00:29:20.780 everyone in Canada has a friend or family member, or at least know someone that is American or resides

00:29:27.260 in America. And the things that I love about America is their freedom, their, their superpower,

00:29:34.740 their, their dominance around the world. And the fact that businesses go to America to just exist,

00:29:40.240 the American dream. And I think that right now, Canada is having to choose a path between,

00:29:46.400 do we want that right now? And what does that even look like? Or do we invest in ourselves,

00:29:52.340 which is in the long, it's a long run, it's a long game, right? And it's like changing your body.

00:29:57.480 You go to the gym, you eat well, you don't see results right away, but you're putting in the hard

00:30:01.240 work now for months or years down the road. And, and that's, that's kind of what we're having to do

00:30:06.200 right now. And I think that we have a real possibility in Canada to be, have those beautiful things that

00:30:13.480 America has, but here in Canada. So everyone who's pro America, like myself, we can have that. It's

00:30:19.940 just going to take a lot of time and a lot of effort. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that when

00:30:25.420 the, for instance, when I look at what Pierre Polyev said, you know, he's talking about how we can kind

00:30:29.780 of open up Canada so that we can become more competitive, right? So like allow more pipelines,

00:30:35.300 build more infrastructure around our energy and our oil and getting it to other markets,

00:30:39.200 freeing up interprovincial barriers, all that kind of stuff. That's kind of like the long-term

00:30:44.160 stuff that you're talking about, like going to the gym. You're not going to see overnight results

00:30:47.560 with that kind of stuff because we don't have the capacity. We can't just wake up tomorrow and start

00:30:51.160 trading our oil to China or Europe when we don't have pipelines to get it to freshwater and we have

00:30:56.580 laws banning tankers and other, other issues. But to me, it seems like there's like overnight

00:31:02.860 things that we could have done to get Trump to come to the table and make it and make a deal.

00:31:09.200 Like fixing the border, cracking down on the drug, you know, manufacturers that operate in Canada,

00:31:17.240 you know, really cracking down on criminal gangs, particularly like Chinese criminal gangs that

00:31:23.840 are allowing fentanyl, distributing, coming and going and distributing it. Those are things that I

00:31:28.740 didn't hear Trudeau really taking seriously. I know that you're a huge critic of Trudeau and I don't

00:31:34.880 think there's a lot of love lost there, especially when I think of your audience. You know, you have

00:31:40.300 a massive audience of, I think, mostly like young males. I don't know, maybe you can tell us a bit

00:31:44.080 about your audience. But it seems to me that a lot of people that follow you, Jasper, would prefer

00:31:48.680 Canada to just say, become the 51st state or embrace what Trump is offering. So what do you think?

00:31:56.340 Do you think that there is a large constituents of Canadians that would be happier as America? Do you take

00:32:01.700 that seriously, the idea that Canada should join the United States? Or do you think that we really

00:32:06.860 need to like focus on rebuilding our own country? I've been guilty in the past few days over the

00:32:14.740 weekend, especially, right, of just kind of flirting with the idea of becoming the 51st state, right?

00:32:21.200 That's just a bandaid solution. Becoming the 51st state, we can all admit that there's a lot of

00:32:29.860 crazies in America. There's a lot of craziness, a lot of people, there's a lot of bad actors in

00:32:35.100 America. If we become the 51st state, we're automatically giving them a free pass to come

00:32:40.320 north without any borders, without any restrictions. That's something that I don't think a lot of people

00:32:45.520 are really prepared for. I think that the people like myself that love America, we can have those

00:32:54.020 things. It's going to take time. It's going to take time, but it's an investment for my kids,

00:32:59.780 right? For your kids, for our grandkids to be able to experience that economic boom. Things made in

00:33:05.900 Canada by Canadians, create Canadian jobs. And you're right, it's not going to happen overnight,

00:33:11.520 but nothing in politics does. And in fact, right before we jumped on this call this morning,

00:33:17.620 I had a thought and Pierre Polyev is extremely about transparency. He wants less government,

00:33:24.480 more transparency. And this is probably going to stir the pot, but I've had a bit of a Uncle Ben

00:33:31.500 talk from someone, you know, with great power comes great responsibility. I've got a platform and

00:33:35.420 I'm just going to throw this out there. Pierre Polyev is running for leadership. He wants to be the

00:33:40.140 prime minister. What's stopping him right now? What's stopping any political leader in Canada

00:33:45.940 right now from trying to get pre-sales on oil ready to go with other countries? You have countries like

00:33:53.300 Japan that are ready to pay double the current price right now to lock in a 5, 10, 15, 20 year deal

00:33:59.380 for our oil. We have the best oil, the cleanest oil in the entire world. And we should be using that.

00:34:08.100 And we plan on using that with a different government. And so I think that if Pierre Polyev or

00:34:13.380 the conservatives maybe said, you know what, open bidding process starting, I don't know what the

00:34:18.260 going, you know, prices for barrel, let's say it's $90 per barrel, right? $90 per barrel. Whoever,

00:34:24.980 whatever country out there wants to start a lock in a five-year deal when I'm prime minister,

00:34:30.260 let's start at $90. And then you're going to start to see a bunch of countries around the world

00:34:34.240 take it a little bit more seriously. That's going to undercut Justin Trudeau. It's going to undercut

00:34:38.620 Jagmeet Singh. It's going to undercut any liberal candidate that's running for leadership right now

00:34:43.260 because no one's actually trying to make those deals. Everyone's got these, these slogans or these

00:34:48.380 reverse promises, right? We're pro-carbon tax. Now, all of a sudden, three months later, we're not pro-carbon

00:34:53.460 tax. Mark Carney and Christian Freeland. Why doesn't Pierre take the X and just start

00:34:58.120 pre-selling barrels of oil? Why not lock in these multi-year deals, multi-billion dollar deals,

00:35:04.760 right? I know he's not prime minister and he doesn't have that authority right now, but what's

00:35:08.600 stopping him from saying, when I'm prime minister, Japan wants a $200 billion deal for, you know,

00:35:14.040 five, 10 years worth of oil. What's stopping that from actually happening?

00:35:18.140 Well, yeah. And I mean, I think that that's an interesting idea. I think that Canada still faces a

00:35:22.420 problem of just a lack of pipelines, right? Like the pipelines over the past 10 years have been

00:35:26.460 blocked by Trudeau. So it's, we have issues even just getting the oil from Alberta out to the coast,

00:35:32.420 like the Trans-Pacific Pipeline. You know, the government ended up having to buy it and basically

00:35:38.760 shutting it down. And we don't have the capacity to get the oil to the East Coast. So I feel like we

00:35:43.220 have to first build up the infrastructure and that doesn't happen overnight. Like I think that,

00:35:48.740 I mean, if I was going to be advising Pierre Polyev to do something, I would tell him to go down and

00:35:55.460 negotiate with Trump, like go to the White House and try to strike a deal, like beg him to stop

00:36:00.780 with the tariffs and say, look, when I'm prime minister, like help me demand an election in

00:36:07.540 Canada, say I'll pause these tariffs until an election happens. And then once I'm prime minister,

00:36:13.680 you know, things will be different. I'll secure the border. I'll crack down on the fentanyl dens

00:36:18.320 and I will do all the things that you want me to do to have a more secure America. Like that's what

00:36:24.320 I would be telling Pierre to do. Although I think secondary, sure, let's also diversify our markets.

00:36:30.420 Why do you think Pierre hasn't gone down to the States yet? Why do you think he didn't go to

00:36:34.920 Mar-a-Lago with Daniel Smith? Why do you think he didn't go down for inauguration?

00:36:38.380 I have no idea why he didn't go down. And I've criticized him over the weekend, this past weekend

00:36:45.580 about that by, you know, going on my channel and saying, I think that Pierre should go even to the

00:36:51.080 border with Daniel Smith and do, you know, a press conference with the media right there and say,

00:36:55.760 this is how much Daniel Smith conservatives are investing into securing our border right now.

00:37:01.480 But I don't know if we should be crawling back to America to try and we're selling them subsidized

00:37:09.460 oil and then we're buying it back. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't have deals with America.

00:37:13.960 Absolutely. We should, but we should be, I mean, Trudeau and liberals and the government have really

00:37:19.700 screwed us with these bad deals. And we've only really been able to sell to America. And I understand

00:37:26.640 that it takes a lot of money and a decent amount of time to get those pipelines, you know, under wraps,

00:37:32.860 but the idea of pre-selling and securing these multi-billion dollar deals, you take that money

00:37:38.520 and you invest it immediately into that infrastructure. You know, there's a cashflow

00:37:42.740 injection coming. We create jobs and we get it going right away. That's where I think Canada

00:37:47.620 should be going.

00:37:49.620 Yeah. And I think it's interesting. And I think that that's the direction that we're going to have

00:37:53.520 to go because if we can't get a good deal trading to our American neighbors, we're going to have to

00:37:57.380 find other markets. I'm curious, what did you think of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Saturday

00:38:01.720 evening address? He came out. I mean, first of all, it irks me that he resigned in January and yet

00:38:08.060 he's still out there leading the way. Like usually when you resign, you go away, you actually leave the

00:38:12.300 job. Somehow he's resigned and he's still there, you know, nagging us. I saw even a bunch of

00:38:18.820 conservatives online kind of applauding him for sounding sort of statesmen and not being as

00:38:25.980 condescending as he normally is to Americans. I have a clip I want to play. So let's play this first

00:38:30.700 clip of Trudeau just basically making his announcement last night.

00:38:36.620 Unfortunately, the actions taken today by the White House split us apart instead of bringing us

00:38:43.980 together. Tonight, I am announcing Canada will be responding to the U.S. trade action with 25%

00:38:54.500 tariffs against $155 billion worth of American goods. This will include immediate tariffs on $30 billion

00:39:05.900 worth of goods as of Tuesday, followed by further tariffs on $125 billion worth of American products

00:39:14.840 in 21 days' time to allow Canadian companies and supply chains to seek to find alternatives.

00:39:23.500 So that's what Trudeau had to say when he basically just said we're going to go dollar for dollar and

00:39:29.020 we're going to reply in kind with the 25% tariffs. So what did you think?

00:39:34.500 I might have a bit of an unpopular opinion for the first part of his speech where he talked about

00:39:41.000 how Canadians have, you know, shed blood, sweat, and tears hand in hand with Americans and we fought

00:39:47.900 in Cambridge and all those things. And I think that that first little part, the first little part of

00:39:52.420 his speech was quite good. It was probably one of his better, if not one of his best speeches ever.

00:39:59.060 And then he fumbled and said a bunch of stuff and it just turned sour really fast. I don't agree

00:40:07.660 with the retaliatory response. I know some conservatives do. I know the conservative leader,

00:40:14.120 Pierre Polyev, agrees with a dollar for dollar retaliatory response. I think that in this situation

00:40:20.540 right now, our government and those that are running for prime minister, um, should be coming

00:40:25.740 together to just solve those issues that Trump is demanding. Right. And when it comes to the

00:40:32.100 fentanyl, right, we got like what 19 kilograms of fentanyl going from America or from Canada into,

00:40:38.060 uh, our Southern borders, whereas Mexico has 9,000. Right. So it's like, we got tiny microscopic

00:40:44.380 peanuts compared to the other issues. So there's the argument as well that Trump is trying to just

00:40:49.440 display this, this force, this dominance, like almost like a, like a pissing contest on Canada

00:40:54.960 saying it's not really about fentanyl, but we're going to make it about fentanyl. I think that we

00:40:58.600 just secure the borders. We do what is demanded because not, not necessarily because it, it's what

00:41:03.940 he wants, but it also benefits us. And it shows that we can actually take action and solve issues here

00:41:10.020 in Canada for Canadians. And that also kind of, you know, pleases the president of the United States.

00:41:16.020 Yeah. I mean, I think that, that, that, that beginning bit that you said you liked, I didn't

00:41:21.700 like that because I felt like he was taught, he said, I'm going to talk to Americans, but he wasn't

00:41:26.140 really talking to Americans. I think he was talking to Canadians. I felt like he was trying to like

00:41:29.660 relaunch his political career or like preserve his legacy. And Canadians get like a little sappy

00:41:35.040 when we hear about how we've been such great friends to America, but knowing the audience,

00:41:39.560 like, I'll just give an example. This is a tweet that JD Vance put out on Sunday morning. And

00:41:45.900 remember, this is, this is the, this is the, this is the vice president. This is MAGA. This is,

00:41:50.800 this is how Americans hear this, right? So JD Vance writes, spare me the sob story about how Canada is

00:41:56.560 our best friend. I love Canada and have many Canadian friends, but is the government meeting

00:42:02.280 their NATO target for military spending? Are they stopping the flow of drugs into our country?

00:42:06.860 I'm sick of being taken advantage of, right? So to them, it's like, okay, we don't care about all

00:42:13.360 the things that you're telling us about. We care about these two things, up your military, stop,

00:42:18.640 like secure the border, stop the drugs. Right. And that's, that's kind of what Trump has been saying

00:42:22.380 for, for months now. I think that Trudeau is kind of poking the bear. I think that Trudeau benefits

00:42:27.900 politically from Trump, like from this war, from this trade war. And he actually wants it on some like

00:42:35.640 dark level. Um, and so rather than coming out there and saying, we take these, these threats

00:42:41.340 really seriously, and I'm doing everything I can to like appease the Americans and convince them that

00:42:47.320 we're going to work together to solve these problems. Um, it comes out with kind of like a

00:42:51.100 sappy political speech that I think maybe, maybe it was successful in, in, in that so many people,

00:42:55.380 even conservatives say you did a good job. But again, I don't think that it's hitting its desired

00:42:59.920 target, which is convincing the Americans that we're up for the task. Clearly. Um, Trump,

00:43:06.020 Trump started making the comments. Remember it was right after he got elected. He said he's going

00:43:09.640 to do a 25% tariff. Trudeau went down there, went to Mar-a-Lago. And it was after that meeting,

00:43:14.760 it seemed like whatever Trudeau did, whatever he said at that dinner at Mar-a-Lago really angered

00:43:19.040 Trump. And that was when the 51st state, the governor Trudeau stuff, uh, started coming out. And it was

00:43:23.800 like, I don't know. Yeah. Like he poked the bear. He made Trump angry. He said the wrong things.

00:43:28.860 That's what he did. I mean, it hasn't been debunked by Trudeau, but it's, it's been confirmed

00:43:33.860 by Trump where he said that, uh, governor Trudeau told them that if, if America doesn't subsidize

00:43:42.300 Canada to tune a 200, $250 billion a year, that we're going to go bankrupt and we're going to go

00:43:47.760 into a recession. Why would the leader of a country ever say that? Why would you show your cards like

00:43:52.880 that? He should have said the opposite. He should have said, Hey president, just so you know, you know,

00:43:57.340 we're giving you a good deal on oil and gas, but we've got other countries lined up and they're

00:44:01.920 willing to pay twice as much for long contracts, right? Like there should have been a better

00:44:06.480 negotiation. Why would you go out? And then he comes back and he resigns, right? Like, did he plan

00:44:12.360 on resigning beforehand? It didn't seem like it. So he, he just got completely demolished by Trump

00:44:18.180 and realized he can't fix this. So he's just going to leave Canada in this catastrophic demolished

00:44:24.660 state resign and then keep the government program. It's an absolute disaster. He's a,

00:44:29.920 he's a huge disgrace. Yeah, exactly. Okay. I want to play another clip from Trudeau. So this

00:44:34.680 is Trudeau. He was asked directly by a journalist. Why don't you bring back parliament? Right? Like

00:44:39.400 we're, we're dealing with like one of the biggest crises in the history of our country and our

00:44:44.200 politicians are taking a break so that the liberal party can like re regroup and try to run a better

00:44:50.260 candidate next election is so ridiculous. It's, it's kind of, it kind of shows you what a joke

00:44:54.260 Canada's political system is and the drastic need for reform. Um, but anyway, here is Trudeau being

00:44:58.920 asked why he doesn't recall parliament. Prime minister, will you recall parliament to pass a

00:45:04.140 bill to help Canadian workers and end prorogation?

00:45:08.520 As you can see from our, uh, strong response package, uh, as, uh, we spoke about with premiers this

00:45:18.240 afternoon, uh, and have for many weeks. Uh, we have the tools to be able to support Canadians,

00:45:24.060 uh, through, uh, this challenging time as it stands. We have the tools. The thing that drives you crazy

00:45:31.220 is his deputies there behind him, Melanie Jolie, um, kind of smirking, right? Like, no, no, we're not

00:45:37.440 going to bring back parliament. Um, yeah, we can just suspend democracy and, uh, regroup. We, we, we have

00:45:43.380 the tools that we need, uh, for Canadians. What does that even mean? What tools? What is he referring

00:45:48.080 to? No, nobody knows. I don't think there's anyone who can actually answer any politician who can

00:45:54.720 actually truthfully answer what those tools are. What prorogation is a freeze on everything. So

00:46:00.260 what tools are you using? What discussions are you having at the round table in the sandbox? There's

00:46:04.780 nothing. He's making these decisions when he's already clocked out. He's given his two weeks or two

00:46:09.500 month notice. Like this doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I mean, it's obvious that he just doesn't

00:46:13.720 want to. And so he's happy to dance around the question, um, because he's a clown. Okay. One

00:46:17.980 more clip. I, you know, I, I should, I should warn. I usually give a trigger warning to my audience

00:46:22.420 before I play a Justin Trudeau clip because they just hate him so much. And I hear in the comment

00:46:26.600 section, like, don't play his clip or I'm going to turn the video off. Um, so yeah, trigger warning.

00:46:32.120 Okay. This is the last Prime Minister Justin Trudeau clip. Um, this is where he basically lets the cat

00:46:36.880 out of the bag that Trump won't take his phone call anymore. So here he says he's been trying

00:46:41.200 to speak to Donald Trump since the inauguration, and he hopes to speak to him sometime soon. Let's

00:46:45.520 play the clip. It's been since, uh, the inauguration that I've been reaching out to speak with, uh,

00:46:51.120 Donald Trump. I hope to speak with him sometime soon.

00:46:55.440 So I, I, I take away from that, that Trump does not want anything to do with Justin Trudeau,

00:47:00.080 not going to take his call, not going to negotiate with him, which leaves us basically without a leader.

00:47:04.560 Um, if I was Justin Trudeau would take that as a hint. Like I need to actually step down now,

00:47:09.680 let Canada have an election to choose the next leader rather than doing this whole

00:47:13.760 prorogation song and dance. What do you make of that Jasper?

00:47:17.600 I think that that should be the entry point for Pierre Polly have to get Danielle Smith and Jordan

00:47:26.400 Peterson and Elon Musk and whatever contacts they can scrounge up and, and go in Kevin O'Leary and go

00:47:33.440 down to Mar-a-Lago and just talk. You don't even have to post that you're going there. Just go do it

00:47:38.560 and talk about it afterwards, but take that action right now and try to fix this. Cause it seems like

00:47:44.320 it was a productive conversation when Danielle Smith had gone down with Kevin O'Leary or we don't know

00:47:50.160 exactly the ins and outs of what, what took place, but it wasn't as catastrophic as when Trudeau went.

00:47:55.200 No, I mean, I, from what I read, so, um, Don Bell, who's a writer for the Calgary Sun, Calgary Herald,

00:48:02.000 he had like a play by play of what happened. And he basically said, Danielle showed up and you know,

00:48:06.560 Mar-a-Lago is a private club. There's hundreds of people that are always hanging around people that

00:48:11.280 are trying to get close to Trump or people that are part of Trump's orbit. And Danielle was invited

00:48:15.520 by Kevin O'Leary kind of as a guest of Kevin. And I don't know how close Kevin O'Leary is with,

00:48:20.640 with Donald Trump. I never got the sense that they were like close friends, but they obviously

00:48:24.160 have some kind of a connection. And according to Bell, um, when Donald Trump entered the room,

00:48:29.280 he beelined for Danielle Smith and went like straight to her. And they had a five or 10 minute

00:48:33.760 conversation there. And then Trump got pulled away to talk to the other people who wanted to talk to

00:48:38.080 him. And then, uh, on Sunday morning, they went to go golfing and it was again, that they, he went

00:48:42.640 right to her and had a conversation. So he was clearly interested in talking to Danielle Smith. I think

00:48:47.040 he would be equally interested in talking to Pierre Polyev. Do you think there's a risk? Because to me,

00:48:52.800 um, when I, when I see the reaction from Canadians, I wouldn't say it's overwhelmingly anti-American.

00:48:59.520 I think that there's still kind of a mix in the conservative camp, as you said off the top, that

00:49:03.040 some people still want to try to make a deal with Trump and others are like, we hate Trump. We're done

00:49:07.760 with him. Like screw America. Let's try to do it on our own. Um, and, and I think Pierre is kind of

00:49:13.360 stuck. Like, I don't know, should he go and negotiate with Trump or should he like play the big,

00:49:18.400 like team Canada, like Trump bad, uh, let's create our own deals. And I think that him going to visit

00:49:26.000 Trump could create a risk for him that it could backfire, or it could be seen as him siding with

00:49:32.080 Trump over Canada. Uh, what do you think? Um, I, I, I agree that he's stuck between a rock and a hard

00:49:38.560 place right now. Uh, he's got critics on both ends, people that support him that are analyzing every

00:49:43.520 single move that he does, because we are probed right now and there's very limited access to what

00:49:49.680 our politicians are saying. The only press conferences that are taking place is whatever

00:49:54.480 and whenever Justin Trudeau decides. And then the occasional media release of, you know,

00:49:59.040 Pierre going on CTV Atlantic or something like that. Right? So there are pros and cons. I think I can

00:50:05.200 admit that about Pierre going down to Mar-a-Lago. Should he start, uh, a public thread on X or truth

00:50:12.640 social with president Trump and try to, you know, get some communication there? Maybe, I mean, that

00:50:18.320 could show some strength. Don't even do it on X, do it on true social, see what happens. Cause that's

00:50:22.320 his platform. You might respect that. He respects strength. And that's why I believe Canada is being

00:50:29.040 heavily penalized. It has nothing to do with you or me or any of the viewers. It has to do with

00:50:33.760 Trudeau. The 25% is because of Trudeau, which is why Xi Jinping only got 10%. That doesn't even make

00:50:41.840 any sense. That's backwards. Are you kidding? We're neighbors. We provide more to you than

00:50:47.120 China does. And we buy more from you. Like that doesn't make any sense. So showing a, a sign of

00:50:53.360 strength, but not showing all of his cards. What does that look like for the conservative leader,

00:50:59.040 the inevitable next prime minister of Canada? I mean, that, that should be a discussion that

00:51:04.160 conservatives are having on X and brainstorming, right? That's what X is for. It's a town hall for

00:51:09.040 everyone to come together. I might not have the answer. You might not have the answer.

00:51:12.640 Pierre might not have the answer, but somebody out there, accumulation of different thoughts

00:51:16.560 and people coming together could have that answer. And what does that look like? We don't really know

00:51:21.120 until we start openly talking about it. Yeah, I completely agree. I put, I put it out there that

00:51:25.520 I think, uh, Pierre should go down. Like he should get on a plane now and go to the white house and try

00:51:31.120 to make a side deal. Like, I mean, I, I like, I, I get that there's risks to that because some Canadians

00:51:36.160 will be like, oh, that's, uh, you know, they, they, they called Danielle Smith a traitor, uh,

00:51:39.760 for going down to Mar-a-Lago. Well, I will note that, uh, there's only going to be a 10% tariff

00:51:44.000 on oil probably because of Danielle Smith's advocacy. Like she managed to bring that down 15%.

00:51:50.160 Um, so, you know, thank you to Danielle for, for the oil workers and the people who are connected to

00:51:55.760 that economy. Um, all right, Jasper, I did want to ask you about this too. There were a bunch of

00:52:00.320 clips circulating over the weekend, Saturday night, Canadian fans booing the American national anthem.

00:52:06.000 It happened at the Ottawa sends game. Uh, they were playing the Minnesota wild. It also happened.

00:52:10.240 I saw, uh, in Calgary, which kind of surprised me and before the Raptors game in Toronto. So,

00:52:15.120 uh, first we'll just play this clip. This was from Saturday night senators game in Ottawa.

00:52:30.320 That hurts. That stings. You know, my favorite clips are the ones of like everybody singing the

00:52:37.520 national anthem. I think that there was a clip from Toronto once where the, the speaker broke

00:52:42.080 and the entire audience saying the American national anthem to kind of help the singer out

00:52:46.640 because she couldn't be heard. And it was so heartwarming. It's like, you know, even Canadians

00:52:50.640 in Toronto might not like America at all. We're still singing the national anthem at that time. Now,

00:52:55.520 times have changed seeing them boo them. I hate, I hate when they boo the Canadian national anthem.

00:52:59.760 Um, so it didn't make me very happy to see Canadians booing the American national anthem,

00:53:03.920 even though I get it. I get it. There's a lot of anger and frustration out there. What do you,

00:53:07.440 what do you think? Uh, I feel like we're entering a, uh, a time of division that's similar to

00:53:15.920 COVID, right? You're not wearing a mask, go wear a mask or just like really ostracizing certain people.

00:53:24.000 And your best friend could have had a different view during that blip period. And all of a sudden,

00:53:29.440 now you're no longer have any sort of relationship with friends and family. We all experienced it.

00:53:34.240 We all know horror stories about that. It went on for way too long. It should never happen to begin

00:53:38.640 with. I feel like that is happening again right now. And it might be tricking some PTSD within Canadians

00:53:44.800 because you, now you have Canadians in the grocery stores that are ratting out other people saying,

00:53:49.520 don't buy that product. That's not made in Canada. That's like, ah, guys, come on. This isn't about

00:53:56.560 you in, in me. Like we, we, we should not be fighting Americans and Canadian citizens shouldn't

00:54:01.680 be arguing. I think that that's personally distasteful for the fans to be booing the American

00:54:06.640 anthem. I can't say that I blame them in the heat of the moment, you know, alcohol is involved. You're

00:54:11.760 at a sports game or it's competitive anyways, cause it is sports. I just don't think that that in the long

00:54:17.680 run is going to be good because that's, that's just a small little dopamine hit. You feel good

00:54:23.840 cause you're taking a, you know, a cheap shot at your neighbors, at your friends, at your family,

00:54:28.400 right? Wait till that hits us. What's that going to look like when Americans start dunking on Canadians?

00:54:33.600 What's really, what's that going to look like, right? It's going to be horrible. How, how is it going to

00:54:38.400 feel when a Canadian team is in America and Americans start throwing stuff on the ice or throwing stuff on

00:54:44.400 the court? What's that? That's going to hurt. And we're going to be like, okay, tit for tat,

00:54:48.400 right? No, we're not just fighting terrorists. We're fighting against anthems. That's not what

00:54:51.680 this is about. This isn't about Canadian people versus American people. This is politicians trying

00:54:57.360 to negotiate a deal. And I think that right now, just like the blip, even though it's very divided,

00:55:04.000 I think that we need to band together. What does that look like? Well, that looks like not

00:55:09.280 picking fights with the opposition, right? The, the Americans versus Canadians or vice versa and

00:55:15.280 booing anthems. I think that's a step in the wrong direction. It's happened multiple times now,

00:55:21.120 multiple times. Um, I've even seen some photos of the liquor store. I think it's LCBO. They've now made

00:55:26.880 it illegal to sell American spirits and minds and stuff like that. And they've taken them off the

00:55:33.120 shelves and there's big signs that they've got that says made in Canada, purchase this. So already,

00:55:39.040 the division is happening. And some people might be on, on one radical side and say, well,

00:55:44.400 we should only purchase American stuff because screw you. We don't purchase came stuff because

00:55:48.720 screw you Canadians. And other people are taking it beyond just purchasing power. And they're obviously

00:55:53.200 booing and you're going to start heckling. And that's how it starts. It starts off with just words

00:55:59.200 and voices and then eventually it turns into actions. And, uh, it's a slippery slope from there.

00:56:04.080 It's a very, very slippery slope. Well, and the other thing is we have, uh,

00:56:07.920 Trudeau calling on Canadians to stop vacationing, to stop traveling to the United States.

00:56:12.560 More than 20 million Canadians go to the United States every year. Like it's the number one vacation

00:56:17.600 destination for Canadians. So yeah, you kind of worry about like, will this catch up on us?

00:56:22.720 Uh, you know, will Canadians be greeted with open arms the way that we're used to when you go to,

00:56:27.600 you know, Florida or Palm Springs or Arizona, wherever you go for the winter,

00:56:31.520 there's so many Canadians at snowbirds and people that go down there. Whoops. Is that me?

00:56:36.960 All right. Let me just turn this on American Colin.

00:56:41.520 Um, actually my, my husband who's traveling for business in the United States, but not American.

00:56:46.560 Um, anyway, um, yeah, like I, I worry that Canadians, uh, won't be met with the same kind of open arms,

00:56:53.920 um, that we're used to down in the States. Uh, do you, do you worry about that at all?

00:56:57.760 Absolutely. Yeah. I Canadians, whenever we would be in America, I used to live in my van.

00:57:05.280 I used to have Canadian license plates. Uh, well, I still do, but I was just on a previous vehicle.

00:57:11.200 And, uh, we, I always was met with open arms. I was always, especially because I had my veteran

00:57:16.080 license plates on people would say, Oh, you're from Canada. That's awesome. And it was always a

00:57:20.560 wonderful interaction. And now we're just starting. We're 48, 72 hours into this.

00:57:27.440 And you're already seeing stadiums, boo people, and things are being taken off the shelves.

00:57:32.880 What's this going to look like in a week from now, in a month from now, tensions are only going to

00:57:37.360 build. I think we all got to, you know, take a little bit of a hippie approach and do some little

00:57:42.640 meditation, internal, uh, thinking, and just collect our thoughts and breathing and just chill out.

00:57:50.480 We're all in this means Americans. All right. We all fought on the same wars. According to Justin

00:57:55.840 Trudeau, we all, we've all been good neighbors, right? We all just need to, to simmer down a

00:58:01.120 little bit. I couldn't agree more. I think that's great advice. Hopefully we all take it. Well,

00:58:04.640 Jasper, thank you so much. I love your channel. Thank you for joining mine. And hopefully we'll,

00:58:08.800 uh, continue the conversation and talk to you, talk to you again soon. Yeah. Thank you so much for

00:58:13.040 having me. All right. Thank you so much. Uh, that's Mr. Sunshine baby. Go check out his YouTube

00:58:18.480 channel. That's all for today, folks. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is

00:58:22.400 Candace Malcolm show. We'll be back tomorrow with all the news. Thank you. And God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 03, 2025

A Trade War will DESTROY Canada

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