The Candice Malcolm Show - Alberta Conservatives BEAT separatists in by-election, Carney wants a “new world order”

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you

00:00:05.780 today. We're going to do a bit of a deep dive into the by-election results yesterday in Alberta.

00:00:12.500 And to do that, I'm really pleased to be joined by one of my favorite guests here on the Candace

00:00:15.880 Malcolm Show. I'm talking about Wyatt Claypool, who is a political commentator and founder of

00:00:21.260 the National Telegraph. Wyatt, welcome to the podcast. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.

00:00:26.400 Okay, so we had both the candidates in the old Stittsbury-Three Hills race on the show on Friday.

00:00:34.160 We interviewed Cam Davies, the head of the Republican Party of Alberta, and Tara Sawyer,

00:00:39.720 who is the candidate for the UCP. We were kind of teeing it up as a close race. I think that Cam

00:00:46.100 Davies, obviously he's leading a party, he's a party leader, and he's running this by-election.

00:00:50.380 It was almost a gift to the separatists, right? The fact that they were having a by-election

00:00:53.940 in this riding, one of the most conservative ridings in the entire country, certainly one

00:00:59.640 of the most conservative ones in Alberta. And because it's a by-election, it sort of gives

00:01:03.400 people the opportunity to send a message to perhaps Premier Smith and the UCP that they're

00:01:10.320 unhappy and that they want the talk of separatism to be taken more seriously. And yet, I think that

00:01:15.600 the results were pretty lackluster. So here are the results, folks. The UCP candidate, Tara

00:01:19.800 Sawyer, came in with 61% of the vote, wins handily with a majority. Second place, interestingly,

00:01:26.140 was the NDP. Bev Toews got 20%. And then in third place came Cam Davies and the Republicans

00:01:31.920 with 17%. People were talking about him getting maybe upwards of 20, 25, even 30%, we were hearing.

00:01:39.500 So 17% behind the NDP. To me, that's quite lackluster. What do you make of it, Wyatt?

00:01:46.860 Well, they're already trying to basically unskew the race to tell us or people from the Republican

00:01:53.540 Party of Alberta that the results are actually better than you think. This was actually a really

00:01:58.740 good result because it's the first real election that the party is running. And I don't think that's

00:02:04.680 a good explanation because they had been previously playing up the race that this is going to be

00:02:09.560 the Republican Party of Alberta really taking it to Danielle Smith, maybe not winning, but giving

00:02:15.280 them a run for their money. And coming in third place behind the NDP, who probably didn't invest

00:02:20.140 pretty much anything into this by-election, is really pathetic. And the thing is that it's 0.98

00:02:25.780 possible for separatists to win this riding. If people remember, Gordon Kessler, the leader of the

00:02:31.520 Western Canada Concept Party provincially, won this riding in a by-election in 1981, specifically

00:02:37.800 Olds Didsbury. You got 42% of the vote, beat social credit by 28, then after that came the

00:02:44.280 progressives at 25. Didn't end up winning the general election after that. But if you invest

00:02:49.680 your time into this area and you make a good pitch for why you're the right person to represent

00:02:55.180 the area and, you know, push for independence, you can do it. I think that the entire campaign

00:03:01.000 that the Alberta Republican Party ran felt too much like an anti-UCP campaign rather than a pro-independence

00:03:08.640 campaign. And it's a common problem with the independence movement in Alberta. Oftentimes,

00:03:14.660 being disgruntled with the UCP and being in favor of independence kind of muddled together,

00:03:20.000 people who probably wouldn't have run against them end up starting new parties in order to supposedly

00:03:25.640 push for independence. But it's really like an anti-PC or an anti-UCP kind of move.

00:03:33.460 Yeah, I got that impression. You know, I interviewed Cam Davies and I can see the appeal in the idea

00:03:38.620 in, you know, him himself. He's a well-spoken young man and he has, you know, good ideas or ideas that

00:03:44.740 I'm sympathetic to. And yet when I interviewed him, I did feel like almost a little personal and petty to

00:03:50.060 me. Like he was talking about how his concerns with Premier Smith were about like procurement and he was

00:03:55.580 complaining about COVID-era policies. You know, it's like, hello, Danielle Smith was not the

00:04:00.320 Premier during COVID. She was actually one of the most vocal critics of it. And so much so that

00:04:05.040 Premier Kenney, the person who was overseeing, who was a Premier during COVID, got removed by his own

00:04:11.300 party, right? So to me, that just seemed kind of off message. I also think that calling the party

00:04:17.740 the Republican Party, I mean, look, I like the Republicans. I think that the Republicans are the

00:04:22.860 better party in the United States. But I don't think that that's the mainstream view in Canada.

00:04:28.300 I think even conservatives don't necessarily see themselves like Republicans. And so using that

00:04:33.240 name, the color red, right, didn't help hurt everyone sees red as liberal red. So I think that

00:04:37.900 there were just some very sort of surface level errors. And then if we go across the rest of the

00:04:43.560 province, so there was, we said there's three by-elections last night. There was Edmonton-Ellersley,

00:04:47.640 which is a Southern riding in Edmonton. And the NDP ran away with this one with 50%.

00:04:53.080 The UCP got 38%. And the Republican in that riding only got 3%, right? And then Edmonton-Strathcona,

00:05:00.860 the other one that we had our eye on, because NDP leader Nahid Nenshi was running in that riding.

00:05:06.120 He won. I mean, we're going again, that's a small riding at the University of Alberta. So this is like

00:05:10.340 the most socialist part of Alberta. NDP leader Nahid Nenshi wins with 82% of the vote.

00:05:17.040 Unbelievable. Those are like Rachel Notley levels, a huge resounding victory up there.

00:05:22.880 And interestingly, the Republican candidate in that riding only got 0.7%. So I don't know,

00:05:28.940 maybe a few dozen people voted for the Republican. The UCP got 13% in that riding. So, you know,

00:05:34.920 there was basically no showing for the Republican Party anywhere outside of this one riding in old.

00:05:40.960 And I don't know, do you think that this is a good enough showing for the party to continue?

00:05:45.260 Do you think Cam Davies will stay on as leader? And what do you think about the resounding victory

00:05:50.420 of the NDP in Edmonton-Strathcona?

00:05:53.080 Well, with Edmonton-Strathcona, just to start off with, that's a riding that even when the NDP used

00:05:59.660 to only win one or three seats in an election, they would always win Edmonton-Strathcona.

00:06:05.040 It's not surprising. I guarantee the UCP didn't put more than, you know, just buying the standard

00:06:10.480 amount of signs that usually buy for the opponent of the NDP leader in that sign to go, you know,

00:06:15.920 just put them up, do a good showing. And that said, I guarantee the UCP candidate didn't think

00:06:20.600 they were going to win. And so, but yeah, it didn't, it doesn't really mean much. It's riding

00:06:25.780 that last time the NDP didn't win, it was 1992. And in fact, that was the liberals winning it.

00:06:30.760 Last time the PCs won, it was 1982. It's been a bit of a while.

00:06:35.320 Uh, and so when it comes to, I guess what this, uh, it doesn't really mean much with when it comes

00:06:41.520 to that riding, Edmonton-Ellersley, the NDP did drop 11 points. The UC gained a couple points and

00:06:48.020 the Republicans gaining 3.4% or whatever, at least demonstrates that there's maybe more of a vote

00:06:54.080 on the right in that area in general. I don't take too much away from it. Uh, by elections can be very

00:06:58.960 strange results compared to actual general elections. And that again is the problem for the Republican

00:07:03.440 party of Alberta. It's easier to post a good result in a by-election. Just again, look at Western

00:07:09.920 Canadian concept in 82 winning the riding. Uh, it's harder to translate that to an actual general

00:07:15.580 election. So they were in an idealized circumstance and not only did they not win, they came third

00:07:22.540 place. And then when you go poll by poll, they didn't even win a singular poll. You would expect

00:07:28.300 that maybe in a very deep rural area that they would be able to drive out, you know,

00:07:33.100 150 people for their cause. It's a small poll. So maybe that's the majority. They just couldn't

00:07:38.960 even do that. And so what I think this is going to do the Republican party of Alberta is that it's

00:07:43.400 a good enough result. I think the result is very specifically 17.6%. They can say, Hey, it's a great

00:07:49.640 first time showing and they can probably raise money from the usual suspects that will donate to

00:07:55.260 something like this. But I think Cam Davies is probably going to find himself in a bit of a

00:08:00.780 leadership struggle for the next year or so, because I think he's proven he's not the charismatic

00:08:04.920 leader who that we're always talking about in Alberta, that a separatism is one charismatic

00:08:09.860 leader away from happening. I don't think it's Cam Davies. I don't even personally dislike Cam Davies.

00:08:14.720 Anyway, we have to protect our local political characters in Canada and he's definitely a political

00:08:19.560 character. But yeah, there was just nothing about that campaign that demonstrated to me

00:08:23.800 that there's traction. Because they keep talking about polls showing separatism is at a popularity

00:08:30.980 rating of 45%. One, those polls tend to be one-offs. If you look at Janet Brown, who's the most accurate

00:08:37.180 pollster in Alberta and some of the others, they're showing around 32%. And even then, some people like

00:08:42.840 the UCP more than they like the very risky chance of trying to go for an independence party and

00:08:49.040 potentially throwing another government to the NDP, who's definitely not even going to let you put

00:08:53.000 forward a citizen's petition. So I think that's kind of where we sit right now. The party's probably

00:08:59.440 going to keep being around, but especially their Edmonton Ellerslie result of 3.4%. I don't think

00:09:06.800 it's going to scare the conservatives too much because that's 3.4%. And we saw the Republicans

00:09:12.340 actually paying for door knockers to go around that ride, like half, more, almost a dozen people,

00:09:17.620 half a dozen people. At least they went around one time and they could still only achieve that very

00:09:22.120 small result in an urban area. Well, that was going to be my question. I mean, we didn't see the vote

00:09:26.360 splitting that some were concerned about, but if you're Premier Danielle Smith this morning,

00:09:30.860 looking at these results, right? Like I know Premier Smith herself is not a separatist. She's

00:09:34.780 been quite clear about that. That's not the path that she wants. She wants more independence, 1.00

00:09:38.460 more sovereignty, but not separation. But obviously there are people who are separatists within her

00:09:45.200 own party. And I think that the fact that she changed the threshold for this initiative act

00:09:49.560 made it more possible to have a referendum. She's obviously listening to those people.

00:09:54.840 But I'm wondering if, you know, if you're in the Premier's office this morning, if you're the

00:09:57.860 Premier herself, what do you think they're thinking? Are they happy? Are they relieved? Are they nervous?

00:10:01.500 What do you think this by-election result tells them? Oh, I think they'd be very happy. I think that

00:10:06.620 this result demonstrated that they basically can hold on to everything they have, even making some small

00:10:12.520 gains in Edmonton. Maybe the Edmonton Ellerslie result is going to reset back to what it was in 2023.

00:10:18.560 But the Republican Party of Alberta is at probably at best in a general election. Going to perform like

00:10:25.320 the Wild Rose Loyalty Coalition performed in this by-election or during the last general,

00:10:30.380 or the Solidarity Movement ended up performing. A lot of these, like a lot of candidates for a party

00:10:36.760 like the Republican Party were probably scared away from actually joining them, knowing that this is

00:10:41.920 not going to be an easy ticket to getting into office. If anything, like you were saying about the

00:10:46.760 Republican branding, it could end up being toxic for you attempting to actually make the case for

00:10:52.280 you as a local representative on a pro-independence ticket. You could probably just run as an

00:10:58.280 independent, running on independence and do better because at least you're just running on your own

00:11:02.500 brand. You're not having to confusingly go door to door and explain that, no, we're not the American

00:11:07.200 Republicans in the wrong county. We are in fact a new, like Alberta-based party. I remember Cam Davies

00:11:14.660 even mentioned that that had become a problem. A lot of people not realizing that we mean

00:11:19.100 republic in the very strict definition of what a republic is. We're not the Republican Party of the

00:11:24.940 United States. Right. And again, I do think, you know, having red signs, a red door, a lot of people

00:11:30.180 are, you know, just have, obviously people who vote in a violation are more sophisticated. And

00:11:34.140 actually we had True North's Isaac Lamer was out interviewing people and doing sort of a straw poll

00:11:39.620 after one of the polls. I was surprised by how sophisticated the voters are. Like when he spoke

00:11:44.220 to one person, he was very, you know, detailed about how they were strategically voting to send a

00:11:50.060 message to Premier that they wanted to take separatists seriously, but not, they probably

00:11:56.080 wouldn't vote that way in a general. Anyway, I do think that having the red signs, a lot of people

00:12:01.520 in Alberta, you know, see the red signs, they see red, they don't want anything to do with the federal

00:12:05.520 liberals. I want to change gears a little bit here with you, Wyatt, and talk about what is happening

00:12:10.020 in the Middle East with Iran and Israel. We're going to talk about President Trump's comments this

00:12:14.900 morning, which were wild. Talk about Mark Carney. And I want to focus in a little bit

00:12:20.060 later in the show on the sort of useful idiots. We did an episode last week on the useful idiots 1.00

00:12:25.120 in Toronto and Canada that are just supporting the wrong side, right? And we have a couple of 1.00

00:12:31.200 great examples of that, including, you know, someone who I think we've talked about on the

00:12:35.200 show before, Wyatt, Rachel Gilmore, who always just manages to have the absolute worst take on 1.00

00:12:39.300 everything. And there's an example of that. So let's start with President Trump speaking this

00:12:43.360 morning. This is Tuesday. And, you know, we had the ceasefire called last night, signed Iran and Israel

00:12:49.920 agreed to not bomb each other anymore. And then here we have reports that both sides have broken

00:12:56.700 the ceasefire. And here's President Trump. He's not happy. And he basically makes this comment that's

00:13:02.020 going viral online, saying that both sides don't know what the F they are doing. Let's play that clip.

00:13:06.820 I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, OK, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the

00:13:13.420 first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with

00:13:18.300 Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel is going out this morning because the one rocket

00:13:23.320 that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.

00:13:29.200 We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't

00:13:35.860 know what the F they're doing. Do you understand that?

00:13:39.800 Wow. So we rarely see President Trump sort of lose his cool like that. But you can tell he's

00:13:43.880 not happy. You know, he didn't. One of the statements and the pieces that was really helpful

00:13:50.000 to President Trump in the 2024 election, in my mind, was that he was the only president

00:13:54.440 sort of in modern times that didn't start a war, that didn't start a war. And that was

00:13:58.740 one of the things that this sort of new anti-war right was really supportive of him over. And so

00:14:04.100 I don't think he wants to be seen as being involved in a conflict in the Middle East. He doesn't really

00:14:07.920 want anything to do with regime change. And so he's quite angry that, you know, they signed the

00:14:12.080 ceasefire, the right was cheering him on, and then all of a sudden it was broken. So we saw on True

00:14:17.020 Social he posted this first this morning. Israel, do not drop those bombs. If you do it as a 0.80

00:14:22.180 major violation, bring your pilots home now. And then moments later, he wrote,

00:14:27.300 Israel is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home while doing a

00:14:31.980 friendly plane wave to Iran. Nobody will be hurt. The ceasefire is in effect. Thank you for your

00:14:36.940 attention to this matter. So my understanding is that after that explosive clip that we showed,

00:14:42.700 Trump got on the phone with Bibi Netanyahu, the leader of Israel. And basically, you know,

00:14:47.920 what happened was that they, you know, Iran broke the ceasefire. So Israel responded,

00:14:52.600 and then basically the ceasefire went into effect. So what do you make of all that?

00:14:58.080 And I think he's right. And I obviously, I think that Trump is annoyed from almost a marketing

00:15:03.040 perspective, in this case, that when we say ceasefire, we mean ceasefire, and do not use

00:15:09.780 Iranians firing one or two rockets as an excuse to then go back in and start hitting targets again.

00:15:16.120 Like, did they violate the ceasefire? Yes. Let's wait for a more substantial ceasefire. Because

00:15:22.380 one rocket is something that the air defenses of Israeli Iron Dome and American air defenses can

00:15:28.880 handle. If they make a major violation, yeah, pound the crap out of them is probably what Trump would 0.93

00:15:34.020 say. But he just doesn't want this to be the narrative that he can't control what's going on in 0.97

00:15:38.920 the Middle East. I don't think we're probably actually going to see a flare up from this in the

00:15:42.740 future. And again, it's not because like, you know, I guarantee a lot of people are going to

00:15:46.540 try and play up divisions between him and Bibi when there's no real division. I think it's probably 0.68

00:15:52.520 Israeli military commanders just jumping the gun as soon as they see something. You know, it's a high

00:15:57.420 tension area. And when tensions are high, people can kind of act rashly when right now the smartest

00:16:03.220 thing to do is just let Iran make a couple dumb violations. They've been trying to throw like swing 0.98

00:16:08.760 back at the U.S. and Israel in very weak ways since they had their effectively most of their air 0.99

00:16:15.140 force taken out, their nuclear program taken out. You know, this is just what they're doing for the

00:16:20.340 cameras in Iran, pretending that they didn't lose as badly as they did.

00:16:25.600 Right. Well, we're going to do a bit of a deep dive into this topic tomorrow. So I'm going to move

00:16:31.400 on from this. But certainly, you know, interesting to see how President Trump has handled that all.

00:16:37.380 I want to go to Mark Carney, Prime Minister Mark Carney, because he did an interview with CNN's

00:16:41.580 chief international anchor, Christine Aminpour. And he made this comment. Honestly, sometimes I just

00:16:48.760 think that Mark Carney is a terrible communicator. Right. So he said that Iran's strike on the U.S.

00:16:54.880 base was both proportionate and de-escalatory and that it was an act of diplomacy. Right. So we're

00:17:01.200 talking about the Iranians bombing an American base where Canadians were stationed. And it seems like 0.83

00:17:08.080 Carney is sort of like excusing it or waving it away. Let's play that clip and I'll get your

00:17:14.120 response to it, Wyatt.

00:17:14.880 The military action was also a diplomatic move by Iran. It was I mean, we never welcome obviously 1.00

00:17:24.060 hostilities and reactions, but it was proportionate. It was de-escalatory. It gives an opening for

00:17:31.020 diplomacy. I think that's the right way to put it. And the question is, does that diplomacy really get

00:17:36.300 traction and move to ending this risk of nuclear proliferation? And does it lead as well to broader

00:17:44.580 well, a broader ceasefire in the Middle East, including in Gaza?

00:17:51.460 So it's sort of weird to say that when your enemies bomb you, it's an act of diplomacy and

00:17:56.420 it's de-escalatory. I think maybe he meant the fact that there was advance warning given and that

00:18:01.160 no one was hurt and that it was just sort of an act to show their own people that they were

00:18:04.920 fighting back, but it wasn't designed to actually hurt anybody. I guess that's what he's talking about.

00:18:09.260 To me, I just get Justin Trudeau vibes that he's just like not a serious person,

00:18:12.740 doesn't really know what he's talking about. I want to also show you this clip, Wyatt.

00:18:16.580 He was speaking at a EU-Canada summit in Brussels. And, you know, this is like

00:18:22.880 Mark Carney, like in his heaven, right? Like he loves the European Union. He loves being around

00:18:28.340 these WEF Eurocrat types. And here he is applauding the Europeans, talking about creating a new world

00:18:34.420 order together. Kirp Lubinov shared this clip. And then we had CBC watcher pointing this one out.

00:18:39.360 He says, as the most European of the non-European countries, Canada looks first to the European

00:18:44.880 Union to build a better world. Let's play that clip. 0.99

00:18:48.660 We really have two choices. It's a jurisdiction as a country in this circumstance. We can nostalgically

00:18:55.820 look back and long for the old order to somehow return, or we can build a new one with purpose

00:19:03.560 and partnership. And as the most European of the non-European countries, Canada looks first

00:19:11.280 to the European Union. Now we're working alongside the European Union to combat climate change,

00:19:18.200 to achieve the sustainable development goals. In these ways, the world knows the strength of our values

00:19:25.820 Yeah. So I don't think, look, I agree that Europe is the birthplace of our civilization, right? And

00:19:31.140 when it comes to Western civilization, we look to Europe for that. But the European Union is like

00:19:35.420 everything wrong with modern democracy, right? It's just turned into like a huge bureaucracy that wants

00:19:41.360 to control every aspect. They're overzealous. They have no respect for freedom of speech. They allow for

00:19:47.100 the complete Islamification of much of their society. Like everything about the European Union, to me, 1.00

00:19:53.200 is the exact opposite of the direction that I would like our country to go. And so again, to see Mark

00:19:58.520 Carney on the world stage like this, pointing us in the wrong direction, this is of great concern to

00:20:04.500 me. I just want to show Stockwell Day's response to all of this. So he's a former leader of the

00:20:09.000 opposition in Canada. He writes,

00:20:10.520 In Canadian history, no PM has so radically and swiftly shifted the sovereign priorities of Canadians to

00:20:17.560 Europe without debate or mandate, aligning us with economic and social policies that are crushing

00:20:22.760 the EU while declaring shared values with China. And then, of course, the CBC News is cheering this

00:20:29.840 all on. I completely agree with that take. What do you make of all this, Wyatt?

00:20:33.280 Well, what a stupid week to be making these sort of statements in as well. It's the biggest policy win or foreign 1.00

00:20:39.280 policy win for the old order that's been done in probably the last 10 years, 20 years, destroying the

00:20:45.540 Iranian nuclear program and basically pushing that terror state to the brink of collapse. We have the 0.95

00:20:52.020 United States who has a better economy than us. They have, you know, more respect on the world stage

00:20:57.220 naturally. And now we're going to be talking about how we need a new world order. And we need to be

00:21:01.800 more like the EU who's been cowering during this entire situation. They've been letting the Americans 0.95

00:21:07.460 lead on Ukraine. They've been letting the Americans lead on the Middle East because they're useless. 1.00

00:21:12.220 They combined could maybe compete with American power, but they don't. And that's the problem is 0.62

00:21:18.420 that Carney is very much what I would consider an aesthetic kind of moderate when it comes to

00:21:25.500 foreign policy. The idea that the attacks by Iran on the American base are de-escalatory and, you know,

00:21:33.780 it's demonstrating their keen eye for diplomacy. You will know someone is a dullard on foreign policy 0.97

00:21:40.660 if they constantly talk about escalation and de-escalation. Everything can be just summed up 0.70

00:21:45.980 by who's escalating and who's de-escalating without any eye to who's right and who's wrong here. But it's

00:21:52.440 just the very morally relativistic world that Mark Carney lives in. I understand that the context is

00:21:58.160 that, yes, Iran didn't go all out. And so this is kind of a bit of an off ramp. They didn't go all out

00:22:04.260 because they can't go all out because they got stomped to death by the Americans and the Israelis. 0.86

00:22:09.020 But I guess, you know, Ayatollah Khomeini is being very, you know, nice and he's trying to

00:22:17.380 play nice. He just he doesn't have the toys to fire off the Americans. And that's why he

00:22:21.680 fired like, you know, six Scud missiles at them. Right. It's just a safe face. And people who can't

00:22:27.840 tell the difference between the West and Iran, look, my husband was born in Iran and his family

00:22:33.700 fled that awful dictatorship. Right. It is the worst combination of radical, fanatic Islam and 1.00

00:22:41.140 communism, socialism. And so, you know, the people who have come to Canada to flee that regime will

00:22:46.260 tell you the stories. They will talk about how awful it was and still is today. And people who can't

00:22:51.940 tell the difference morally between a backwards dictatorship like Iran and the people who are 0.99

00:22:59.620 trying to keep the world safe from the predations of the mullahs and the Ayatollah. Like those people 1.00

00:23:06.540 shouldn't be taken seriously. And we're going to talk about a few examples of those. So there was a

00:23:10.320 couple of demonstrations in Toronto over the weekend. The first one was the good guys, Persians and their 0.96

00:23:17.680 allies in Toronto demand for a free Iran, free from Islamist rule. This is Juneau News reporting over

00:23:23.060 200 Canadians. Many from the Iranian diaspora community gathered in Mount Blasman Square.

00:23:30.060 This is really interesting, right, because people who fled Iran, they're Muslims, right? They are Muslims

00:23:35.180 living in Toronto, living in Canada. And yet when they go to their demonstrations, you'll often see

00:23:39.920 Israeli flags, right? And so that's kind of off, right? Most of the Muslims and Islamists that are in 1.00

00:23:47.100 Canada hate Israel, right? When you see the Palestinian marches, they're very anti-Israel,

00:23:52.020 anti-Israel. And yet here you have Persians that are pro-Israel and they actually are applauding the 0.95

00:23:56.880 acts of Israel. I spoke to people in the Iranian desperate community myself who don't want a cease

00:24:01.560 fire, right? They want the Americans and the Israelis to finish the job and take out the evil mullahs and 1.00

00:24:07.480 the Ayatollah. And so it's interesting just to see, you know, these people at this, like you saw

00:24:13.260 conservative MP, Melissa Lansman was there, former PC MPP in Ontario, Goldie Gemari was there as well,

00:24:23.720 you know, promoting this idea that they want to free Iran, that they want the regime to be toppled,

00:24:28.040 they want regime change. And then countering that, Wyatt, we had these crazy people at this so-called

00:24:34.020 hands-off Iran protest. This was organized in part by CUPE Ontario and their president, Fred Han,

00:24:40.960 who's just sort of seems like a confused, useful idiot on these issues. But the thing that was 0.98

00:24:46.280 really shocking to me, Mark Wickens pointing this out on X, an image of a person holding up,

00:24:53.100 there's two of them actually, a man and a woman holding up a picture of the Iranian Supreme Leader

00:24:57.700 Ayatollah Khomeini. This person is a maniacal, like murderer, right? This person has overseen so much 0.98

00:25:06.360 pain and trauma and murder in Iran. And yet in Toronto, you have regime apologists holding them

00:25:13.820 up. Again, when I show pictures like this to people I know in the Iranian diaspora community in Toronto,

00:25:18.500 they're horrified. They're like just absolutely horrified. Why are these people in our country?

00:25:22.420 Well, look at this woman. Look at this woman. It looks like she's wearing, it appears to me that 0.99

00:25:26.400 she's wearing a Rolex watch. Like I'm talking about like a $10,000 watch, right? Holding up a picture

00:25:31.260 of a deranged dictator that has punished his own people, right? And, you know, wearing a New York

00:25:37.000 Yankees hat, like kind of like this modern Western woman who's supporting this totally backwards 1.00

00:25:42.580 dictatorship. It's so bizarre. And to me, again, it points to our immigration system. Like why do we

00:25:47.580 have pro-regime Iranians here in Canada, in Toronto? It's unbelievable to see these idiots in Canada. 1.00

00:25:56.320 Like in my mind, these people should be deported. Send them back. If they love Iran so much, 1.00

00:26:00.000 if they love the Ayatollah so much, send them back to Iran. What do you think, Wyatt?

00:26:04.240 And that Western woman probably also compares Trump to Adolf Hitler a lot as well, which is very ironic.

00:26:11.380 And that's, and the thing is that I think this should be hopefully a wake-up call to Canadians,

00:26:16.500 that there are real extremists that are living in this country, that we just let them do whatever.

00:26:21.380 This is, it's not, it's not really free speech to show up from a dictatorship as a, effectively a war criminal in many cases.

00:26:31.360 Hide in Canada. Be here on a false pretense and then go around trying to intimidate members of the Persian diaspora 1.00

00:26:39.320 who speak out against the Iranian regime, because that's what these people do.

00:26:43.160 I think we are in a turning point right now where these people are starting to lose the argument

00:26:48.880 that they do not represent the mainstream Canadian view on foreign policy.

00:26:54.580 This actually also happened yesterday when it came to the Air India bombing memorials.

00:26:59.720 You had Conservative MPs not just memorializing the, like, the tragic result of that terrorist attack,

00:27:08.200 but they're also naming and shaming the Kalistani movement and not putting up with these freaks 0.98

00:27:13.100 who go around literally showing up to the memorials to find out who really conducted the Air India bombing.

00:27:19.300 So yeah, this is, it just demonstrates that the, where moral relativism takes you.

00:27:26.340 Moral relativism never stays relative.

00:27:28.460 It always ends up siding with the most evil people in the room at the end of the day.

00:27:32.420 What a great way of putting it. 1.00

00:27:33.760 Okay, we've saved our favorite useful idiot for the very end, 0.64

00:27:36.500 but we're going to cut off the social media feeds here on YouTube and X. 0.96

00:27:40.360 Encourage you to head on over to Juno News, become a premium subscriber,

00:27:43.320 and watch the rest of the episode.

00:27:45.880 We've got some fun examples here, so join us on the other side.

The Candice Malcolm Show - June 24, 2025

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