The Candice Malcolm Show - November 15, 2021


Canadian society is obsessed with race

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woke left obsession
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Candice Malcolm
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Elizabeth Warren Mariam Monsef Carrie Barassa Kerry Brusa Donald Trump Mary Amonsef Morningstar Bear Anishinibi Métis Heather Malick Barack Obama Bear Clan Trudeau Bruce
The CBC is a joke and Canadians are laughing at them The knives come out against Erin O’Toole

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In this episode, Candice talks about the impact of a CBC investigative report that exposed the DNA of a prominent Indigenous woman, and how the legacy media is celebrating her fall from grace. Candice also discusses the role of race in our society, and why it matters so much.

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00:00:00.120 Canada now has its own Elizabeth Warren story and the legacy media is celebrating and cheering on this woman's fall from grace.
00:00:07.080 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:13.860 Everyone, thank you so much for tuning in. I hope everyone out there had a wonderful weekend and welcome to The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:19.500 Thank you for tuning in. I want to talk today about this story over at the CBC.
00:00:23.960 So CBC released this investigative report at the end of October and it really created quite a stir.
00:00:29.720 Everyone's talking about it online. So many other reporters in the country and journalists are talking about it,
00:00:35.080 celebrating and cheering this piece of investigative work, saying that it is one of the most thorough,
00:00:40.080 one of the best pieces of research investigative reports out there.
00:00:44.100 And I just have to say I disagree. I find that, look, I'm a journalist. I love good journalism.
00:00:50.560 I love a good investigative piece, regardless of, you know, the angle or the political persuasion of the person writing it.
00:00:56.200 There's nothing better than a very thorough, well-researched, well-written report that exposes something,
00:01:02.180 that digs into something, that shows something that is off, that exposes either some kind of a corruption
00:01:08.160 or something that's flawed, some kind of a cover-up.
00:01:10.980 There is nothing better than good investigative journalism.
00:01:13.420 And while I agree that this piece that I'm about to talk about today is incredibly thorough,
00:01:17.860 they've obviously done very painstaking efforts to expose what they're trying to expose,
00:01:22.920 just to take a step back and to just say, okay, we now live in a society, we live in a world in 2021 in Canada
00:01:29.640 where a person's race, a person's DNA, their family lineage, immigration patterns of their great-great-grandparents,
00:01:36.840 and their DNA, their personal DNA is now open season in terms of public scrutiny.
00:01:42.440 So we can now have the state broadcaster, the publicly funded, government-funded journalists in Canada
00:01:48.400 spending their time exposing the DNA and the race of a high-profile person.
00:01:54.440 I just find that, just on a societal level, incredibly sad, creepy and sad that this is now where we live,
00:02:01.480 that this is where the progressive left have taken us,
00:02:04.140 the progressive left who claims that they are the ones that are best suited to help us heal
00:02:09.180 and help us as a society become more fair, have more opportunity,
00:02:13.240 have more equality of opportunity in terms of people from different backgrounds,
00:02:17.780 and they're the ones that can lead the charge with regards to reconciliation.
00:02:22.180 And so we've sort of enabled all of these leaders on the left to take the charge on this issue.
00:02:27.520 And where has it led us?
00:02:28.800 It has led us to a world that is obsessed with race, 0.96
00:02:30.960 where everyone is divided in terms of what our background is, what our skin color looks like,
00:02:37.280 the innate characteristics that you are born with.
00:02:39.640 So instead of living in a society where, you know, we try to minimize the importance of race
00:02:44.820 and we try to maximize the importance of a person's character, their skills, their competence, their effort,
00:02:51.020 the work that they put in, instead we've sort of flipped it.
00:02:54.520 Under the guidance of the radical left, the woke left, race matters, skin color matters,
00:03:00.060 what your family lineage is, in some cases is more important than all of those other things.
00:03:04.580 It's sort of a sad reflection on where we are and where we've been led to.
00:03:09.860 And I do want to go through this story because it is remarkable.
00:03:13.500 I just can't help reading through this and thinking not only did the CBC put all of this effort
00:03:18.140 into trying to expose the race of this woman, 0.58
00:03:21.040 but then the reaction is that everybody is sort of cheering them on.
00:03:24.820 Everyone in the legacy media is like, you know, applauding job well done CBC.
00:03:28.860 And everyone in this woman's life, Dr. Carrie Barusa, is just completely like throwing her under the bus.
00:03:34.500 Her career is over.
00:03:35.780 All of her accomplishments are being called into question and being taken away.
00:03:39.460 You know, not because she plagiarized her PhD, not because she, you know,
00:03:44.280 lied and didn't actually complete the medical school that she said she was.
00:03:47.640 No, as far as her skill set and her competency, that's all left unquestioned. 0.91
00:03:51.560 But the only thing that is now being called into question is her race, is her DNA.
00:03:56.040 And that is why everything is being taken away.
00:03:58.200 And again, very sad reflection of where we are in a society.
00:04:01.440 So let's get to this piece.
00:04:03.120 So this individual, Dr. Carrie Barusa, she seems like an incredibly impressive person.
00:04:09.020 She is a professor over at the University of Saskatchewan.
00:04:12.380 And she was the scientific director of the Canadian Institute of Health Research Institute
00:04:17.400 of Indigenous Peoples Health, which is the leading Indigenous health research unit in Canada.
00:04:22.400 So she's an impressive woman. 1.00
00:04:23.940 And according to her own story, she came from a very, very dysfunctional background.
00:04:28.400 She kind of has a rags to riches story. 1.00
00:04:30.080 She grew up in a dysfunctional family in the inner city, in a very sort of rough neighborhood.
00:04:35.660 She was surrounded by addiction, violence, and she claims racism.
00:04:40.520 And so she tells a story.
00:04:41.740 She did a TEDx talk back in 2019, where she talked about her own personal story.
00:04:46.360 So part of the story that we're being told here is that, you know, maybe when she was
00:04:49.840 a young researcher, when she was working on her PhD, going to grad school, she identified
00:04:54.720 as Métis, and she benefited from that, right?
00:04:57.020 She was given extra opportunities, more scholarships, more bursaries.
00:05:00.740 There's a lot of programming in Canada dedicated towards helping First Nations people who want
00:05:05.920 to, you know, advance her education, have more opportunities available. 1.00
00:05:10.220 So she was obviously the beneficiary of this with a Métis identity. 0.90
00:05:14.200 And then as she sort of got more advanced in her career, she sort of started embellishing
00:05:18.960 more and more.
00:05:19.680 And so she started identifying as being from different tribes that she had never claimed
00:05:23.660 before.
00:05:24.160 And even the way that she looked, the way that she dressed, she started wearing more sort 0.79
00:05:27.080 of traditional First Nations clothing, which I guess was part of the reason that led the
00:05:31.400 CBC to this story, to this investigation.
00:05:34.200 So she did a TEDx talk where she said, my name is Morningstar Bear.
00:05:38.360 She said, choking up, I'm just going to say it.
00:05:39.920 I'm emotional.
00:05:40.460 The cloud applauded and cheered.
00:05:42.300 I'm Bear Clan.
00:05:43.060 I'm Anishinibi Métis from Treaty 4 Territory, she said, explaining that she grew up in the
00:05:47.520 inner city in a dysfunctional family surrounded by addiction, violence, and racism.
00:05:51.760 She said that her saving grace was her Métis grandfather who would often sit her on his
00:05:55.860 knee and tell her, you're going to be a doctor or a lawyer. 0.80
00:05:59.240 He would make me repeat it over and over as there was chaos going on, usually violent,
00:06:03.260 she said.
00:06:04.040 And why would he make me say that?
00:06:05.420 Because there was nobody in my family who had ever gone past grade eight.
00:06:08.760 And so as this report details, and it is incredibly long and thorough, so it goes on to say that
00:06:15.900 she began claiming a new heritage.
00:06:19.180 She said that she was a descendant of the Tlingit, a small group of Indigenous people from
00:06:23.440 Yukon and British Columbia.
00:06:25.920 So the premise here is that we learn that she's probably not actually First Nation.
00:06:29.800 She probably doesn't have a Métis grandfather.
00:06:32.780 So what happened was her sister, she has a sister as well, who also claimed to meet Métis,
00:06:36.680 who also sort of benefited from the scholarships and the bursaries and all these things because
00:06:41.000 she was Métis.
00:06:42.260 So both sisters seemed to genuinely believe that they were Métis. 0.92
00:06:46.200 So her sister and her sister's husband decide in 2014 that they're going to go and take
00:06:50.540 genealogy tests.
00:06:51.800 This was when the sort of 23andMe fad first started, where you can go and you can give
00:06:56.120 a saliva sample and you can get your genealogy records.
00:06:59.860 You can learn them.
00:07:00.980 My husband and I did it.
00:07:01.760 It's really fun and really interesting.
00:07:02.900 So apparently when her sister did it, she learned that she wasn't First Nations at
00:07:07.340 all.
00:07:07.500 All of her relatives were from Eastern Europe.
00:07:09.820 And it seems that perhaps these genealogical records had been leaked to this reporter at
00:07:14.280 the CBC, who then went through and tried to create like this big family tree and log all
00:07:19.740 of the immigration patterns of all of her various ancestors to prove that she's none of these
00:07:24.400 things.
00:07:24.560 She's not Métis.
00:07:25.480 She's not a descendant of First Nations tribes in Yukon and the British Columbia.
00:07:29.220 That is all sort of just an invention of her imagination.
00:07:34.060 And so it seems like at that point in her life in 2014, when her sister said, look, it
00:07:38.240 doesn't seem like we're actually First Nations, her sister turned away from the identity.
00:07:41.880 It seemed at that point that Dr.
00:07:43.320 Bruce has sort of leaned into it and sort of said, no, you know, I don't believe the
00:07:47.400 evidence.
00:07:47.900 I'm going to keep going with this and kind of went further and further into it, obviously
00:07:50.780 to the benefit of her career because she was celebrated and she rose to great prominence
00:07:55.800 with this identity.
00:07:57.140 So then again, we have the CBC going through and trying to track down all of her ancestors
00:08:02.460 again, just to prove that she was not actually First Nations, that she is from Eastern European
00:08:06.860 when she was finally sort of caught and said, look, we have the genealogical evidence.
00:08:11.460 It shows that you're not First Nations, you're not Métis. 1.00
00:08:14.060 Then Dr.
00:08:14.780 Brosa sort of changed her story and said, well, I've been adopted into these communities.
00:08:18.200 I was adopted into them in my 20s and then some later in life.
00:08:21.640 And so her story kind of shifted from her being born First Nations to her being adopted
00:08:26.720 into this family.
00:08:28.160 And basically now, again, this woman's been thrown under the bus. 1.00
00:08:31.600 The university has backed away.
00:08:33.860 And again, it doesn't look good for Dr.
00:08:35.540 Carrie Brosa.
00:08:36.140 It looks like a lot of her awards are going to be taken away a lot of her positions. 0.99
00:08:39.480 But just to take a step back at this report, I mean, it's pretty wild.
00:08:43.480 It's pretty wild.
00:08:44.060 They have tracked down her entire family history.
00:08:47.400 They have photos of family members from the early 1930s just to say that, look, these people
00:08:54.920 were not First Nations.
00:08:56.060 They are clearly from Eastern European.
00:08:58.440 And here is the evidence.
00:08:59.740 I've never seen anything like this.
00:09:01.180 In all of my years reading the news, watching reports, I've never seen a takedown like this.
00:09:06.700 Like if you compare it to the Elizabeth Warren story.
00:09:09.120 So Elizabeth Warren kind of had a similar story in that she believed that she was part of the
00:09:13.220 Cherokee Nation and she would use that identity.
00:09:15.820 It seemed like she probably used it even when she was going to university, getting into school
00:09:21.000 and getting her position.
00:09:22.020 So Elizabeth Warren is a very celebrated lawyer in her field.
00:09:24.460 And she ended up working at Harvard Law School.
00:09:27.000 Well, it turns out when she was working at Harvard Law School, she identified as a minority.
00:09:31.560 And it seems like when she was applying to go there, she sort of checked the box and said
00:09:36.400 that I'm First Nations as well.
00:09:37.940 Well, it all came out partially because of Donald Trump.
00:09:40.640 Donald Trump saw that she was sort of rising to prominence in the Democratic Party and that
00:09:44.980 she may be the Democratic nominee.
00:09:47.040 He started calling her Pocahontas and kind of challenged her to go and take a DNA test
00:09:52.360 and said that if it turns out that she is First Nations, he'll donate a bunch of money
00:09:56.180 to a charity.
00:09:57.300 And so she went ahead and did it.
00:09:58.640 She released her DNA records on her own volition.
00:10:01.160 She decided on her own that she was going to do that.
00:10:03.740 And it turned out from her DNA records that the amount that she wasn't part of the Cherokee
00:10:07.960 Nation, that she really didn't have an ancestor who was First Nations.
00:10:10.960 And if she did, it was, you know, one out of like 64 ancestors or more.
00:10:16.040 Like she had a very, very small part, not enough to warrant the claim that she was actually
00:10:21.080 First Nations.
00:10:22.100 But again, at least it was Elizabeth Warren herself who chose to go and do the DNA test, 1.00
00:10:26.440 chose to make it public.
00:10:27.700 And at the time, interestingly, a lot of people on the left, a lot of people in the media sort
00:10:32.160 of defended her, saying, you know, a lot of people have family lore, family stories that
00:10:37.580 don't turn out to be true.
00:10:39.040 And interestingly, the same thing happened.
00:10:40.600 I mean, when I read this story as well, the other thing that I started thinking about was
00:10:43.660 Mary Amonsef.
00:10:44.660 Recall a couple of years ago, we learned that Mary Amonsef, who was a cabinet minister in
00:10:48.100 the Trudeau government, she had this incredible story as well.
00:10:51.580 Her origin story was touted throughout the media.
00:10:53.960 It was celebrated.
00:10:55.160 Even Barack Obama mentioned her because we were told that she was a Afghan refugee who
00:11:00.380 came to Canada with her family.
00:11:02.320 They fled the Taliban, came to Canada and got refuge.
00:11:06.120 But we learned that she wasn't from Afghanistan, that that whole story that her being from Afghanistan
00:11:10.660 was fabricated.
00:11:12.040 And in fact, she lived in Iran.
00:11:14.160 She was born in Iran.
00:11:15.060 She grew up in Iran.
00:11:16.220 Granted, she was still an Afghan person. 0.84
00:11:18.560 She's Afghan ethnicity. 1.00
00:11:19.600 But the idea that she wasn't actually born in the country that she said, that her family
00:11:24.020 had already fled the war and was already living in Iran when she was born, it meant
00:11:28.440 that so many elements of the story were fabricated.
00:11:31.340 And we were supposed to believe at the time, she basically just blamed it all on her mother
00:11:34.960 and said that her mother had kept it from her.
00:11:37.160 Her mother had lied.
00:11:38.100 And it was her mother's fault.
00:11:40.060 We're supposed to believe that a kid growing up in Iran until the age of like 11 or 12 didn't
00:11:45.280 realize that it was wrong.
00:11:46.100 She thought it was Afghanistan.
00:11:47.260 Give me a break.
00:11:47.760 And so again, we saw this huge defense from the legacy media.
00:11:52.140 Even the prime minister came out and defended her and criticized anyone who was writing
00:11:55.780 or talking about the story, saying that it didn't really matter.
00:11:58.220 And that anyone who was talking about it was just sort of trying to like sow division in
00:12:01.740 the country.
00:12:02.460 And so again, it's interesting because, you know, when it came to Mariam Monsef, the media
00:12:07.520 were there to defend her.
00:12:09.180 And so here we have Heather Malick writing over the Toronto Star.
00:12:12.040 She writes birthers, hands off Mariam Monsef, basically saying that children are not at fault 0.90
00:12:17.460 when their parents peddle misinformation about the family's origin stories and that it shouldn't
00:12:21.400 matter at all what Mariam Monsef's story actually is.
00:12:24.400 And it's not her fault.
00:12:25.860 It was her mother who misrepresented her past.
00:12:28.800 And so the child shouldn't be held responsible for a parent's misinformation.
00:12:32.420 Even when those children like Mariam Monsef have grown into adults.
00:12:36.400 Mariam Monsef is an adult in her 30s.
00:12:38.260 It's still not her fault, even though she's peddling this false origin story for personal
00:12:43.540 advancement.
00:12:44.320 So interesting how the tables have now turned.
00:12:47.220 If you look at how the Toronto Star is reporting on this story about Dr. Kerry Brusa, it's pretty
00:12:53.920 disturbing again.
00:12:55.040 Like basically they're calling for more investigations.
00:12:57.880 They're calling for groups like universities and other institutions to stamp down Indigenous
00:13:03.280 identity fraud.
00:13:04.620 So what they want people to launch their own investigative reports into people's heritage,
00:13:09.860 people's race, people's background.
00:13:12.000 Here is an op-ed over in the Globe and Mail that Kerry Brusa's story is yet another example
00:13:16.000 of a kind of cultural Muncheisen syndrome.
00:13:18.480 Muncheisen syndrome is when you believe you're sick or you pretend to be sick to get more sympathy
00:13:23.000 and more attention from others.
00:13:25.440 And so he's saying this is an example of it.
00:13:27.120 They're really just a sneering piece of writing here.
00:13:30.240 He says, for the longest time, Brusa told the world her ancestry was Métis, but since
00:13:35.380 the reports questioned those claims, she has been unable to verify her ancestry.
00:13:39.140 Now relieved of her high profile position, she can spend all of her time jigging, beating 0.99
00:13:43.840 and carving totem poles.
00:13:45.780 Real nice Globe and Mail.
00:13:47.620 National Post similarly just called her a fanciful white woman. 1.00
00:13:52.360 So you do see this sort of sneering from the media.
00:13:55.700 And what I think is the absolute worst is this idea that we should have investigations
00:14:00.220 into people's races to make sure that they are who they say they are.
00:14:04.300 Look, I'm not defending this woman.
00:14:05.520 I think it's wrong to lie.
00:14:07.040 It's wrong to embellish your past.
00:14:08.700 It's wrong to pretend you are someone who you're not.
00:14:10.980 I do believe, though, the fact that both her and her sister both once claimed to be Métis
00:14:16.000 seems that there was some genuine confusion on her part about her family history.
00:14:20.020 It's the case with so many people across Western Canada.
00:14:22.580 I mean, we only know our own family heritage based on the stories that our parents tell
00:14:26.820 us, the stories that we hear from our families.
00:14:29.220 And so if there is sort of folklore that's mixed in with family history, it's hard for
00:14:34.400 someone to know and tell.
00:14:36.240 So many people in Western Canada do have a First Nation relative, people who don't identify
00:14:41.020 as First Nations at all.
00:14:42.540 They might have one grandparent or one great grandparent who is part of a tribe or who is
00:14:47.920 status native.
00:14:48.920 And again, it's hard as a society, like that we all should supposed to be bookkeeping and
00:14:54.480 keeping track of all of our relatives and all of our race.
00:14:56.840 Here we are as a society under the guidance of the radical left.
00:15:00.160 They care more about race than anything else.
00:15:02.420 And because of it, this is identity politics.
00:15:05.180 It divides us up based on a race.
00:15:06.820 It pisses against each other.
00:15:08.260 So when I was growing up in Canada in the 1980s and 1990s, I was told and I genuinely believe
00:15:12.960 that the goal of our society was to build a country that had moved past racial animosity,
00:15:17.960 that we were a country that didn't judge people based on the race, they didn't care
00:15:21.640 about your skin color, where people could succeed based on merit, based on their own
00:15:26.200 competence, their own character, their own effort, and what they do.
00:15:29.640 And that race didn't define us, it didn't hold us back, and it didn't give some people
00:15:34.000 an advantage over other people.
00:15:35.600 And that is the country that I grew up in.
00:15:37.320 I saw friends, I saw peers, I saw people all around reach great success based on their
00:15:42.580 skills, based on their own efforts.
00:15:44.160 It's not based on what they looked like, not based on their race, not based on where
00:15:47.720 they came.
00:15:48.160 I saw so many people who came from other countries, they may have been discriminated against in
00:15:52.020 other countries, they may have been refugees in other countries, they came to Canada because
00:15:55.420 they were smart, because they worked hard, they were able to be successful.
00:15:58.660 And that should be the goal of the society.
00:16:00.380 That is the society that I want to live in, that is the Canada that I grew up in.
00:16:04.520 But sadly, I think this story, the story of Dr. Kerry Barusa, and the way that the
00:16:08.480 media, just the very fact that the CBC did this investigation in the first place, the
00:16:12.820 way that they did it, and the way that everyone is sort of cheering on the demise of this woman,
00:16:17.320 it clearly shows that this goal of a society that doesn't care about race, that that's
00:16:22.520 no longer the goal of our society.
00:16:24.040 Instead, we are a society that is obsessed with race, and it is not looking good, it is
00:16:29.240 not pretty.
00:16:30.060 This is where the woke left has taken us.
00:16:32.560 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:16:38.480 Thank you.