Canadians want more EVIDENCE on unmarked graves + Juno's 6 month anniversary (feat. Keean Bexte)
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Candice Malan talks about a new survey from Angus Reid Research, which suggests that most Canadians want more evidence before they accept the claim that there are unmarked graves at the former Kamloos Indian Residential School in British Columbia, Canada.
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for
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you today, folks. Kian Bextie, my co-founder here at Juno News, is joining us in just a
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few minutes. And guess what, folks? Today is the six-month anniversary since we launched
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this organization, Juno News, since Kian Bextie from Countersignal and myself from True North
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teamed up together to launch a new free speech news outlet focused on fact-based journalism
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and telling the truth. It has been an incredible ride so far. So we're going to go through
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some of the highlights. And folks, this episode is brought to you by ExpressVPN, but more on
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them a little bit later. I want to tell you about this new survey that was put out today
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by Angus Reid talking about one of what I think is one of the most important issues in the
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country, which is the story of the unmarked graves, the alleged unmarked graves that were
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allegedly discovered in Kamloos back in 2021. You can draw a straight line from that announcement,
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that bombshell, the absolutely hyperbolic, over-exaggerated media claims, sort of calling
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them mass graves. And then all of a sudden we had to say that Canada had committed genocide,
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making all kinds of unfounded accusations against our country. You can draw a straight
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line to that and some of the craziness that is unfolding today, including the story I mentioned
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yesterday about a judge ruling that private property had become First Nations property. I'm
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going to talk about that again in just a few minutes. But first, I want to go through
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this Angus Reid story because it is really interesting and I think it's really good news
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for us here at Juno News and for the truth in Canada. Two-thirds of Canadians, according
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to this study, want additional evidence before accepting that soil anomalies represent unmarked
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graves at Kamloos School. So this is something that they wouldn't have even asked but wouldn't
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have even talked about a few years ago and you can really see how the country has shifted.
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In fact, when you take a closer look, you ask Canadians which one is closer to your view.
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So in the blue, 37 percent accept the claim that this is evidence of unmarked graves even
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if no further information is offered 37 percent, which folks, I still think that number is way
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too high. 37 percent of people are willing to accept that priests and nuns and school teachers
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were murdering children and clandestinely burying them in mass graves at residential schools and
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they don't want any more evidence. They just believe that claim and they're happy with it and
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they just want to believe First Nations claims and move on. But the more kind of optimistic side,
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the thing that makes me feel confident and happy, is that 67 percent of Canadians say,
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I don't think so. They say, we will only accept this claim if further information is publicly
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available through verified and verified through an excavation. So we will not believe that there
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are mass graves at residential schools unless we find human reins and evidence. So let's treat
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these as a criminal investigation rather than just a political claim, which is basically what's
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happened so far. When you take a closer look at the regional breakdown, you can see that the number
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of people who are skeptical and want more evidence is highest in the prairies, 74 percent in Alberta,
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72 percent in Saskatchewan, 75 percent in Manitoba. In British Columbia, I guess it's just pretty much
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a Canadian average. 64 percent say that they want more evidence. 36 percent say believe the claims.
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And interestingly, out in Quebec, you see the highest number of people saying just accept the
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claim without evidence. 45 percent and 55 percent say that they want more. Not surprisingly, the gender
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breakdown here is such that women are more likely to believe a claim without evidence and just say,
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like, it's my truth or it's their truth. Let's just believe their truth, basically. So you can see
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young women in particularly. This is the only demographic in the country that the people who just say believe
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their truth, 56 percent, whereas only 44 percent want more evidence. With older women, you get a little
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bit more sensibility. And you can see with the men, it's really lopsided. Even young men, 37 percent
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want to believe their truth. And 67 percent want more evidence. For 35 to 54, it's only 27 percent versus
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73 percent say we want more evidence. And the same for older men. Now, interestingly, the next question
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they asked, three in five Canadians, 62 percent, opposed making residential school denialism a
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criminal offense. And basically, it's even more damning. Look, the idea that you would criminalize
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speech. So just asking questions about residential school, doing the kind of journalism that we do
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here at Journal News RA that I do on the Candace Malcolm Show frequently, or someone like Professor
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Frances Whittowson and their book that they put together, Grave Error, she's been going, and just
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basically telling the truth and talking about what evidence actually exists, giving a historical
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recount of what the Indian residential schools were actually like. Basically, this new law that's
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being proposed by the NDP banning residential school denialism would make what she's doing a crime,
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would make what I'm doing a crime. Our book, Grave Error, they specifically cite this book as an
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example of so-called residential school denialism. And so whether Canadians actually support this,
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you know, the way that the survey says, it says 62 percent opposed. But it's actually much more than
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that, because you always have 15 percent or so of people that just don't know, they're not familiar
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enough with the issue. And so if you look at the actual number of people who would be in favor of,
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you know, making something like this illegal, saying you cannot talk about this kind of thing,
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you get like 8 percent, 10 percent of Canadians, again, plus 16. So maybe like 25 percent of Canadians,
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which, again, is still too high. It's still too high. One in four Canadians want to ban speech,
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basically. But the fact that the majority of the country is saying the other thing, I think it's
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good news. This is why Juneau News exists, folks. We exist in part because of stories like the unmarked
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grave. I think it's a hoax. I know Francis Whittowson just thinks it's media deception, that it's not
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necessarily a hoax because there's no one necessarily behind it pushing it. I do think that a lot of the
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bans that came out and claimed to have discovered unmarked graves and bodies, they knew that they
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didn't actually have evidence and they went with it anyway. So I would consider that a hoax and
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certainly a lot of members in the media that continue to push this story without the facts.
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We exposed Jordan Tucker of the CBC doing exactly that. And Francis Whittowson had it on tape. I
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encourage you to go check out that episode and go listen to that. I want to respond to something
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from our show yesterday. So yesterday we talked about this absolute bombshell BC Supreme Court case
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that ruled that 800 acres of land in Richmond, British Columbia belongs to the Cowichan First
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Nations. Basically this land, which is industrial land, it's partially crown land, partially owned by
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the government, and also some private property that the land titles are invalid. This is what the
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judge ruled, that the land titles invalid and defective. And therefore it actually rightfully
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belongs to the Cowichan tribe just based on oral history. The tribe said that they went there
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and they did fishing expositions and that's where they caught salmon in the summer. And the court
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case was going on for five years, the longest court case in Canadian history. And the judge ruled that
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the land actually belongs to the First Nations. Now I did my show about it. I talked about how this is
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an absolute threat to everything that we believe in our country, right? Our country is founded on
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private properties. I tend to believe that private property and freedom are intrinsically linked. You
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cannot be free if you don't have the right to your property fundamentally. I think that's part of the
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biggest problem with First Nations. In Canada, they don't have the same level of prosperity that you and
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I can achieve because they don't have the same private property rights. Private property is so
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important. And so when you have a judge ruling, as this judge did in British Columbia, Judge Barbara
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Young, who, by the way, one of my viewers pointed out, was appointed by Stephen Harper. Stephen Harper,
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the conservative prime minister, one of his biggest failings as a prime minister is his
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appointments, his legal appointments. I'm a fan of Stephen Harper. I used to work at his government.
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I think he did a lot right. But his judicial appointments were atrocious. And so this is
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one example of that Barbara Young. Now, I will note that there are a couple of, there's been a couple
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of pieces and people pushing back against what I claimed in my show yesterday. Notably, Terry Glavin
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in the National Post, his highlight says a better response to B.C.'s Cowichan land ruling calmed down. So he
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basically says this isn't really about private property. I know that the folks over at Northern
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Perspective likewise did a fact check. Fact check, did B.C. Supreme Court steal private land and give
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it to First Nations? Here's the truth. Look, I disagree with Ryan and Tanya on this one, and I'm happy to
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have them on my show. So Ryan, if you're watching, come on the Candace Malcolm show and we will debate
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this because I think that this is an absolutely dangerous precedent. And it says right here in the
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judge's ruling that this will only affect private property when the property is sold. So here,
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right here from the Globe Mail story, there are some privately held properties, but lawyers involved
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in the case say that if the ruling stands, that land would not be affected until it was sold. So
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until it's sold. I never said that they're going to get kicked off their land today or that's going
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to happen now. But obviously, if you own a property and the government suddenly says that your title
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is invalid and effective, and when you sell it, you're not going to have the title anymore or the
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person who's buying it from you. I mean, the value is gone. So you've lost your nest egg. You've lost
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your whatever you're planning for retirement or to give to your children as inheritance. You've lost
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the value of your private property is incredibly dangerous precedent. It is incredibly dangerous that
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a judge can do this based on oral history. Again, Justice Young wrote in her declaration that this will
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change a long established status quo and have significant impact for those involved with the
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lands. So not saying that anyone's going to get kicked off their lands. I'm not saying that this
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is like a South African situation where someone is going to come and kick you off your land and take
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it. But that is the direction that we're headed. That is definitely the direction that we're headed.
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And it's a bit complicated. I'm from British Columbia. I still have many family members over there.
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And so I know that there are lots of places in British Columbia that are on what they call 99
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year leases, right? So it's a leasehold property, not a freehold property. If it's a freehold property,
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you own it for unclear. If it's a leasehold, there's a set 99 year lease. And then you have
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however much time is left on that lease. And ultimately would be up to the band to decide
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whether they would renew it or not at the end of that. And so if you bought something as a freehold,
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and then suddenly the government changes it to a leasehold, obviously that impacts the value
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of your property. And it is a scary, scary concept. The idea that a judge can determine
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to take away your property in a free and democratic society means that that country isn't very free
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and very democratic anymore. Okay, folks, I want to bring on Key and Bexie. But before I do,
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And happy anniversary, man. It's been six months. I didn't get you any chocolate or any flowers,
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but it's been a fun ride so far. So what stands out for you so far six months in?
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Well, I would be remiss to not mention the election. Any of our viewers will remember the impact that we
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had. We covered, I think, tons of really, really interesting content back then. And I think that
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was our first or second month of operation. And we had close to 8 million views in the month of the
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election, which is just insane numbers. Like that, that eclipses a lot of the mainstream media in
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terms of what they're able to get. But it speaks to why we do this. One, because we are having a huge
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impact. We're able to inform Canadians when the mainstream media fails to do so. When they try to
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sweep things under the rug or lie about them, worst case scenario, we come in with the truth.
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It's uncensored, unfiltered, and it's honest. And sometimes it doesn't, you know, it doesn't make people
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feel good. It doesn't, it doesn't hold any punches. And we always like to punch up here. But it's got to be
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done. And people, I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. When, when people are, when, you know, I think we are
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the largest independent news network in the country now, we're growing so quickly. And it speaks to
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how valuable of a service Juno News is providing to Canadians right now.
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Well, a hundred percent. And I remember, I agree with you, 8 million was incredible during the
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election. But Kian, I looked at it just this morning to see what our views were like on our
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website. And, you know, you think it's the summer, it's kind of slow. Most people are kind of not as
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engaged in political news as they might be when the House is in session or during election.
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In just the last 30 days, so the second half of July, first half of August, we've had 10.2 million
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visitors on our, on our website. So Juno has continued to grow, continue to have a big influence.
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I think we are the biggest in terms of subscription. And it's kind of funny, Kian, because I know that when
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you and I first started discussing the possibility of a merger or working together, we were kind of
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imagining that there would be a Pierre Polly of government and that potentially he would be
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defunding the CBC. And we were talking about how Canadians need an alternative, right? If CBC is
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going to get defunded, they'll probably disappear or at least get very diminished because they don't
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really have a good business case. And so where are Canadians going to get their news? Where are they
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going to get their fact-based journalism from? And that's what we wanted to provide. Things have
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obviously changed. I mean, I think that President Donald Trump, with the tariffs and the 51st state
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rhetoric really threw a curveball into the Canadian election. The election did not go the way that I
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wanted it. I don't think you were happy with the results. And so here we are, you know, we live to
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fight another day. And I think that independent media is even more important when we are facing sort of
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the liberal tyranny that we live under, where we just have, you know, governments that believe in
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censoring the internet, governments believe in government-funded journalism, like totally the
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antithesis of what Canada is supposed to stand for, right? We still have mass migration. We still
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have deception around First Nations and the history of our country being rewritten. You know, there's so
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many problems that were created under Trudeau, and we sort of see a continuation under Mark Carney.
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How do you think that changes the job that you and I do on a daily basis?
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Well, when I was imagining a peer government, I was looking at it from the perspective of pulling
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him to the right and making sure that he didn't think that he could just go. Sorry, I'm about to
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sneeze. I was worried that he was going to think that he could govern to the center. My goodness.
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And it was our goal to pull him to the right, to make sure that he was held accountable to a
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conservative audience, to the conservative base that elected him. Now that that hasn't happened,
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I don't know if my goal has really changed. I want to make sure that Mark Carney isn't allowed
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to run wild with the leftists that propped up Justin Trudeau over the last 10 years.
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Our job is to hold him accountable from every direction, to make sure that his conflicts of
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interests are exposed, to make sure that the bogus and garbage legislation that the morons that were
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propping up Trudeau are still pushing forward is exposed and that Canadians understand exactly
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the situation that our country is in. And it's not just Mark Carney that we need to focus on. It's not
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just Pierre Polyev that we need to focus on. These activist judges that are rewriting the foundation
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of what it means to be Canadian and to live in Canada, uh, by handing private property to radical,
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uh, and, uh, you know, to, to these radical Indian bands is wrong and Canadians will not stand by it.
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The CBC will though. And that means that we need to be there to explain to Canadians what is happening,
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to read through the court rulings, read through the facts, digest it and share it and inform Canadians so
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that they know what's going on so that they have the information that they need to stand up and fight
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back themselves. Uh, and it's, that's a job that I take deeply personally. Uh, and I think that it's
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extremely important that we do so because when it comes to protecting Canadians rights, private property,
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that's one thing, but we're also on the front lines of protecting free speech. Uh, we're on the front
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lines of protecting the rights, uh, of people to be journalists and to be media in this country,
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which the sands are shifting under our feet. As we speak, Justin, it started, you said it about this
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express VPN thing just a few minutes ago. It started with Justin Trudeau. Uh, but Mark Carney hasn't changed
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the tune of the liberal government, the government of Canada, when it comes to, uh, attacking journalists,
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attacking free speech and changing the rules that we've except expected to be true for the last,
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you know, century and a half of Canada existing. We thought that this was a free country. We thought
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that the, the media had inalienable rights, uh, that the government couldn't interfere with, uh,
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that's turning out to not be true. And Mark Carney has to be held accountable for that.
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Well, a hundred percent. And it's not just the federal government. It's not just the liberals.
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There, there is a problem in our media landscape and with a lot of the other voices in media,
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right? So basically what happened in this country is that the CBC was always kind of left leaning.
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And I don't know, sometime around the first Trump administration, they just went hard left,
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hard left. It became sort of a post-truth world where they didn't even care about facts. They only
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cared about narratives. And the rest of the legacy media kind of went along with it. Like you had to,
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it was kind of like a cultural revolution in China. Like you, you kind of had to like browbeat
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anyone who had dissenting views and, and basically they purged conservative or just common sense
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voices from the legacy media or previously common sense people like Charles Adler used to be kind
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of more on the political right. He shifted hard to the political left, right? And so the media
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took a marked step to the left. They went more and more left wing and they've removed conservative,
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even centrist voices from their platforms. A couple of notable examples, Andrew Lawton,
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who was a long-time radio host in London, Ontario got removed because they just didn't want pro-life
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voice on their airwaves. I was eventually removed from my column. I'd written a column for eight
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years, almost a decade in the Toronto Sun. It was syndicated across Post Media and I got removed from
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that in 2021. And so they basically just decided that they didn't want any conservative voices in media.
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And what did that do? That created a market space, right? It's like half the country is kind of
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conservative or at least maybe skeptical of the legacy media narrative. The legacy media really
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stopped doing journalism and started just doing pure activism, pushing out agendas, pushing out a
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narrative. And they left this opening, right? And so there were a bunch of little upstart conservative
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media outlets or just sort of centrist media outlets, center-right media outlets. And what the legacy
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media then did is they turned around and started calling those groups far-right. And you and I get this
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quite a bit, Kian, where they try to discredit us by just saying, well, they're far-right. And it's
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like, okay, like what makes us far-right, right? Like when we first launched Juno News, Andrew Coyne
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wrote a column in the Globe and Mail calling Juno News far-right. And I got into an argument with his
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editor and I was like, what about Juno News is far-right? Like explain to me how I personally
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am far-right. And she couldn't. And she just said, look, our columnists get a degree of latitude.
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And also he didn't call you far-right. He called Juno News far-right. I just, I bring this up because
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I wanted to specifically ask you about this piece. There's an organization called Anti-Hate Network,
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the Anti-Hate Network, anti-hatenetwork.ca. And they wrote an article about us after the debate. So
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just to provide clarity for folks, the Anti-Hate Network is a government-funded organization. They
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get, they exist because of grants from the Trudeau government. And now I believe from the Kearney
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government. And their whole mandate is what they say to expose hate on the far-right. They don't
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focus on radical Islam. They don't focus on like the Hamasniks dominating the streets. They only
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focus on what they call right-wing, far-right, white supremacist, neo-Nazi movements. And they kind
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of like conflate all those things together, right? So on their website, many times they describe the
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far-right and they use terms like neo-Nazi and white supremacist. And then here they had an article
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about Juno News after the debates, the leaders debate scrums. The headline says far-right media
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outlets dominate post-debate scrum. Six in the 17 reporters who asked questions came from Rebel News,
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True North, and Juno News, okay? So in one breath, they say the far-right is an extreme problem to do
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with all of these crazy like Nazi ideology. And then they're also like, oh yeah, and True North,
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Juno News, and the Rebel are all also far-right. The article is just ridiculous. Like,
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they basically just complain that you and Alex Zoltan managed to get to the front of the line
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to ask your questions to Mark Carney before other journalists. And somehow that's like a government
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problem or something like that. Like, to me, it's just like, these journalists aren't very good
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at like, you know, if you, part of being a journalist and the skill is getting a question to the leader.
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So figuring out how to get your question in. And it just seems like they, I mean, it's totally over the
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top. I don't take a lot from Anti-Hate Network. I think it's a totally disgraced organization that
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should not exist. And hopefully if Pierre Polyev does win an election, he will defund this organization.
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But I just wanted to get your thoughts on that specific article.
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Yeah. You know, the Anti-Hate Network is this band of basement dwelling neckbeards that have
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nothing going for them in their lives outside of government grants that fuel their ability to,
00:22:34.820
to smear and lie about anyone who thinks that the government should tax people less so that
00:22:44.160
we're, you know, they have less, less, the government has less agency to give grants to
00:22:49.840
morons like these people. Like if they, if you think the taxes should be lower, you're a white
00:22:54.000
supremacist to them. If you think that, if you think, if you've ever had a conservative idea,
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cross your mind, you are a white supremacist Nazi. You are, you might as well have a membership to
00:23:05.560
Hitler's Nazi party in the third Reich. That is, that's what goes through these morons head.
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And then they pontificate it on this website domain that they're only able to afford because
00:23:16.360
of government grants. They actually wouldn't be able to afford it without it. Um, and maybe they
00:23:20.320
get some private donor funding from, you know, some, I, I, I, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna guess
00:23:26.800
where they might get other money from, but, um, it's a joke. And, you know, they've been following
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me since I was a student in university, uh, saying that I am these terrible things, which I'm obviously
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not. Um, you, you know, you, you and I have become friends over the last several years. And I think that,
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you know, as well as anyone that I'm the furthest thing from a white supremacist, I'm very much a
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conservative. And I might even say that I'm like a very much a right wing person, like more than most
00:23:54.240
people. But does that make me, uh, you know, does that make me a Nazi? No. Does that make anyone a
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Nazi? If they think that, you know, if they think that immigration should be lower, for example,
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which is one of the things that just ticks them off, they'll call you a Nazi real quick.
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If you think immigration should be reduced, let alone eliminated or net zero or net negative,
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even, uh, they, they will just call you the most harshest crude things in the world.
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Once a sensible government. And I, I might even say that Mark Carney is slightly more sensible than
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Justin Trudeau. I think if I were them, I'd be sweating bullets right now that their grant funding
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might not last. And they're going to be grasping at straws to create this boogeyman, this ghost, uh,
00:24:36.960
this, this thing for Canadians and the government and MPs to be worried about that. There's this like
00:24:42.320
surge of racism, Nazism and right, like white supremacy in Canada so that they can justify
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the grants that they get that pays, uh, their mother basement rent. So, uh, they're going to
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pretend like there's this big issue. There's not. It's obvious. Uh, when you look at the issues in
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terms of hate in this country, uh, it, it, it is the hate marchers on the street that are attacking,
00:25:08.080
attacking Jewish fathers on the street. These, the, we, the government of Canada literally shipped in
00:25:15.480
ISIS women, uh, families, uh, ISIS families from Syria and gave them candy and, and room service.
00:25:23.940
Uh, when ISIS was a huge issue, they're like, no, no, no, you should come to Canada and we'll keep
00:25:28.980
you safe. This is your home. And they, they think that that is not a problem, but we are, we are the
00:25:33.920
big boogeyman in the room, which really tells you something. I think that they, they're willing to
00:25:38.160
ignore Hamas agents of Hamas, uh, agents of, uh, the, the Iranian national guard in Canada.
00:25:47.020
And they think that that's not an issue. That's not, that's not what they're going to spend their
00:25:50.360
precious grant money on. No, they're going to focus on us. It's a joke. These people are despicable,
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uh, and, uh, they're not going to last long because they don't have trio around anymore to coddle them
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and pretend like there is this big white supremacist boogeyman in the room. Well, a hundred percent,
00:26:04.820
there are actual real national security issues. There are real security threats. You mentioned
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the Iranian, um, coups force, like, like Canada has the largest number of Iranian regime officials
00:26:14.540
living in our country, thanks to the territorial government and the anti-hate network just doesn't
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care. And actually they, they exposed it. We have the receipts right here. Ariella Kimmel,
00:26:22.380
who I actually used to work with in the federal government. Um, she was talking about how,
00:26:26.020
so, so basically after the October 7th attack, anti-hate network didn't say anything. They didn't
00:26:30.380
condemn it. They didn't say anything. And then like a month later, they finally put something out
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and it said how Canada's far right is spinning the war to its advantage. So they finally found a way
00:26:40.600
to tie it to the far right. So Ariel Kimmel just says it's almost comical months after the massacres
00:26:45.220
in Israel. Um, she goes on to just say the anti-hate network finally put something out and it's
00:26:49.460
somehow blaming the right. Bernie Farber, who is, I believe he's like the founder or was the former
00:26:54.600
executive director of this organization says, um, not just the right, but the far right,
00:26:58.700
white supremacists, neo-Nazis and the like are actively, especially now targeting both Jews
00:27:03.400
and Muslims. So again, they found a way to spit it. And notice how he says the far right, right?
00:27:07.300
So he's like, Oh, it's not just the right. It's the far right. But just remember in that news article,
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they called you and I have far right. So when they're talking about far right, they just mean
00:27:14.900
conservatives. They mean mainstream conservatives. Anyway, Ariella and Bernie go back and forth.
00:27:19.180
And finally, um, at the end of this thread, Bernie lets cat out of the bag. He says,
00:27:23.980
Ariella, the anti-hate.ca focuses on the extreme right. That is what it does. I wish that we had
00:27:30.120
the resources to do more. We just don't. So there it is. They don't care about extremisms and radical
00:27:35.240
Islam. They don't care about foreign regime officials in the country. They don't care about
00:27:39.500
the far left Antifa. Hey, a church in Montreal was firebombed last week on camera by Antifa while
00:27:45.360
they were flying a flag. That's outside their purview. They only focus on the far right and they get
00:27:49.940
government funds to do it. Of course, there is no equivalent on the other side, right? There never
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is. And, uh, you know, you mentioned that you consider yourself right wing. Uh, when I was
00:27:57.700
going back and forth with the editor of the global mail about whether or not it's fair to call me
00:28:02.060
far right, I said, look, like I'm a mother. I have four kids. I'm married. I'm a Christian. Like I was
00:28:08.540
part of the conservative party. I worked for Jason Kenney. I've worked for Danielle Smith. I wrote for the
00:28:12.900
Toronto Sun for almost a decade. I'm mainstream. I interviewed Pierre Polyev. Like, like, how is it that you
00:28:18.600
can call me far right? I'm like a mainstream normal Canadian. And again, she just had to say, well,
00:28:23.460
it's not just you, it's your organization, which, you know, when you, when you start an organization,
00:28:28.200
there, there isn't really much of a difference. Like calling my organization far, far right,
00:28:31.720
but saying that I'm not is just, it's, it's just total like mental gymnastics, um, basically. Uh,
00:28:39.260
well, I, I want to end on a positive note, um, Kian, not just talking about some of our detractors.
00:28:43.920
And so I noticed that we were named as one of the top 20 sub stack influencers in the world. Um,
00:28:51.280
so this was an article, um, written by a platform called favicon, the top 20 sub stack influencers
00:28:58.040
in world politics in 2025. And we are ranked number four in the entire world. All of the other ones in
00:29:04.180
the top, um, 10, I believe are all Americans. There's a couple other Canadians on the list. Paul
00:29:08.480
Wells was number 13. Jen Gerson line was 15 and all the way near the top, uh, number four is Juno
00:29:16.220
news. So I think it's really exciting, um, just to be having, I guess that influence on a global stage
00:29:22.420
even, um, to see our small little Canadian media company grow so much. Um, it's really exciting.
00:29:28.040
Why don't you tell the audience a little bit about what we have in store for the rest of the year and
00:29:33.120
for the future? Yeah. I mean, that's, that's such great news and it's so rewarding to actually see
00:29:39.960
real results. I'll, I'll say it right now. The, the anti-hate network is never going to rank
00:29:44.860
on a global list of influence like that. Uh, and as I said earlier, the reason why we have grown so
00:29:51.680
quickly is because we're brutally honest. We punch hard, we punch up, uh, and, and we have a national
00:30:01.140
network that we've quickly grown across the country where we can cover any story, uh, low from,
00:30:07.900
from a local political issue to a national issue in Ottawa and everywhere in between. Uh, we have
00:30:15.360
create, we have exposed why the mainstream media is failing because they haven't been able to be as
00:30:20.400
nimble as us. They haven't been able to be as honest as us. Uh, we, uh, we are so lucky that we do not
00:30:28.100
like the anti-hate network rely on a grant from a political benefactor to continue our operations.
00:30:36.660
We don't need to lie through our teeth or create some fake boogeyman in order to continue doing what
00:30:43.360
we do to continue sharing the truth, to continue our research and deep dives and documentaries that
00:30:50.120
we're working on. We don't rely on any of that. We rely on our viewers, not even through, uh, the
00:30:55.760
donation model that the counter signal used to, uh, rely quite heavily on. Um, which, you know, I,
00:31:02.560
I'm glad we did because that helped the counter signal grow really quickly as well. Uh, and it
00:31:06.820
was a really important part of our business model. And we still do take donations here at junior news.
00:31:11.900
We're not going to say no because it helps us hire more. It helps us do more. It helps us,
00:31:15.780
uh, let create these documentaries that we're talking about. I don't know if you've shared that
00:31:19.580
with your audience yet that we're working on these longer form content pieces now, but what we do is we
00:31:25.040
rely on the subscriptions of people. It's a, it's a marketplace, uh, people can subscribe where they
00:31:30.640
don't have to subscribe. Uh, and more often than not people decide, yeah, I want to see the news that
00:31:36.180
junior news is producing because they're the only ones that I can trust. I can't trust the CBC. I can't
00:31:41.020
trust the Toronto star to tell me what is honestly going on in Richmond where people's houses are being
00:31:47.500
confiscated by the state not being confiscated. I shouldn't say that, but their land is the title is
00:31:52.560
being taken away. The value is zero. Who's going to buy that property now? And the CBC is not saying
00:31:59.760
that they're talking about how it's a win for global indigenous rights because allegedly these people
00:32:07.000
fished on a river nearby once. So let's just invalidate tens of millions, if not hundreds of
00:32:13.260
millions of dollars in private property value, let alone the crown land value that every Canadian
00:32:18.780
should, uh, you know, has a God-given right to enjoy the, the benefits and beauty of crown land
00:32:25.460
should not be given to random groups of people who, who have no legal claim to it. It's, it's,
00:32:33.660
it's, it's this made up idea. Anyways, the CBC is lying about it.
00:32:37.300
Just to add one more layer on top of that, Kian, then we see like the Adams Lake band in Northern
00:32:42.280
British Columbia up past Kamloops where they put signs up saying no settlers. And I interviewed
00:32:46.780
John Rodstad, leader of the BC Conservative Party yesterday. He says that that exists all over the
00:32:50.560
province where they, not only did they take the land that used to be accessible to all Canadians
00:32:54.620
and say, this is private, this is now indigenous land, but then they also say no white people allowed,
00:32:59.080
which is incredibly racist. And it goes against the entire spirit of our country, uh, which is a
00:33:05.240
partnership between the French to English. Let's talk about what's happening to Corey Morgan
00:33:09.300
with the Western standard who went to the Siksika nation, which is, it is, I, I live right off the
00:33:16.760
Siksika nation. That's where I grew up. Um, and Corey Morgan went to go expose the decrepit third world
00:33:25.780
situation that many people, many of my friends who I went to school with, uh, have to live in because
00:33:33.200
they don't have private property rights, because there's no accountability with band structure and
00:33:37.780
leadership like Stephen Harper tried to put in and then Trudeau just repealed it. Uh, they're living
00:33:42.560
in squalor and the most decrepit unsafe conditions. Their houses burned down every second week over
00:33:48.960
there because there's no safety standards. No, it's terrible. And, and Corey Morgan goes there to
00:33:54.060
explain to the average Canadian who probably has never stepped foot on a reserve, uh, to show what it
00:33:59.940
looks like. And retroactively that band says, no, you are a colonial settler. Uh, and we're going to
00:34:06.200
charge you with trespass retroactively, which is not just attack an attack on his mobility rights and
00:34:12.020
his, his rights to be somewhere in Canada and his journalistic rights. It's a, it's a huge attack on
00:34:18.360
his free speech, retroactively charging someone a fine because you said something that an Indian band
00:34:24.660
disagrees with is a joke. It's a, it's a total disgrace. And it's one example of many that we've
00:34:31.040
talked about, uh, of this, the very fabric of our country being redefined in real time over the course
00:34:39.000
of the last five years. I don't even think that Mark Carney is the, the, the focus of what we need
00:34:44.480
to be looking at right now. Uh, it is the judges. It is, it is the manipulators. It is the liars.
00:34:51.200
Uh, and it is just, it is the un unraveling of our Canadian identity and core belief structure
00:34:58.020
and values and freedoms on the basis of the lies of these mass graves. Uh, which is really what I
00:35:04.580
think kickstarted this, this UN drip, uh, UN drop garbage. Um, that's, that's going to be my focus.
00:35:11.580
And I think hopefully our focus as we try to defend the rights of Canadians by exposing the
00:35:17.460
truth about what's going on. It's funny. Cause I increasingly believe that that is the
00:35:21.740
biggest issue in the country. Look, it's hard to go around Toronto. Like even just you, the mall by
00:35:26.240
my house, Vaughn Mills mall, it does not feel like Canada. Like it really feels like a third world
00:35:30.320
country. It's unbelievable. Um, how much Toronto specifically has changed over the last five to
00:35:35.240
10 years because of mass migration, the demographics is totally different. And it's easy to see those as
00:35:41.300
being the biggest, related to the biggest issues in the country to do with crime. And of course,
00:35:46.200
a liberal revolving door prison system, catch and release policies, all of that. Um, but when you
00:35:51.160
take a step back and you think about like what it means to be Canadian, what we're teaching next
00:35:54.780
generation, um, just our belief in our country, uh, I think the issue that you were just talking
00:35:59.280
about, um, it, it sort of goes against the very core of whether or not Canada can be a country,
00:36:04.620
whether we're a legitimate country or whether they see us as invalid settlers and Canada needs to be
00:36:10.000
disintegrated and that private property needs to be given to other groups. So, uh, these are all
00:36:15.340
issues. This idea of truth and reconciliation, which is just like this set that this idea of truth and
00:36:23.420
reconciliation, it implies that at some point we must be reconciled, right? Like at some point we
00:36:29.100
must move past this, this idea that, that Canada was stolen. Okay. What is it going to take? Right.
00:36:35.880
You know, in Siksika, Justin Trudeau came over there and he gave them like $1.23 billion. He just
00:36:42.940
handed them a blank check. He said, here you go. There's a big ceremony. It was an insane amount
00:36:47.820
of money per person there. It's the, these people should all be rich, but they're not. They still
00:36:52.920
live in these decrepit situations, which makes you think, Hmm, maybe it's the Indian band leadership
00:36:58.140
that needs to be held accountable. Maybe something's going on here that the average indigenous
00:37:02.140
person, uh, is not actually benefiting from this Indian industry scam of it. It, it, it, it, same
00:37:10.120
thing happens up in Northern BC up where they were putting the Northern gateway pipeline through the
00:37:14.580
average indigenous person there was working on the pipeline, wanted it to go through was seeing the
00:37:20.500
benefits of, of industry and building and, and the growth of the country. But the Indian band and
00:37:27.360
these, these hereditary leaders of the Indian band, they were the ones that were trying to pocket more
00:37:33.060
money. They were the ones that were trying to, um, take a, seize more control. And it's just not
00:37:39.420
going to work. Something is going to explode in this country and not in a good way. It's not the
00:37:44.640
economy. It's going to some, there's the, the social fabric of this country is disintegrating before
00:37:49.440
our eyes. And it is the most important thing to be talking about right now.
00:37:53.880
Well, 100% key. I really appreciate your time today. We have a special clip, um, that we are
00:37:58.780
going to show you. This is the highlights of our time so far June is six months. And we have, um,
00:38:03.620
so much more plans to just, we're just getting started. This is the very beginning. We are on
00:38:07.000
a mission to replace the CBC. We want to become the biggest, most important, most influential news
00:38:11.840
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become a premium subscriber that helps us fuel our journalism. And to end the show, we are going to
00:38:22.060
share this montage of some of our best moments here at Juno News. Um, thank you so much. I'm
00:38:27.160
Candice Malcolm. That's Kim Bexley, the founders of Juno News. Thank you. And God bless.
00:38:30.960
Today, we're announcing that we're joining forces to change the media landscape in Canada.
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What is your position on the right number in terms of the levels for permanent residents?
00:38:46.160
Bring in a simple mathematical formula that says we cannot bring in people faster than we add houses.
00:38:52.400
Carney's doing exactly the same thing. He's looking like Trudeau 2.0 all over again,
00:39:00.920
Your entire campaign does seem to be predicated on putting you in the front and hiding the people
00:39:05.200
that stood in lockstep with Justin Trudeau for the last 10 years. I'm wondering how you reconcile
00:39:11.780
Do you believe that women, biological women, have the right to their own spaces?
00:39:15.820
This has been a three-year culmination for us. And to think that it was our last rally and being
00:39:28.400
with all of the people, they share their stories, their pains, their struggles, and we're doing it
00:39:36.060
I'm really excited and really proud of what we have built together. I say together because
00:39:40.940
we would not be here without the audience, without viewers like you, without the people
00:39:46.400
Do you really think that Western Canada is at the point where it won't last another four
00:39:51.020
years, it won't stand for it, and that that is perhaps how Mark Cartier will go down?
00:39:54.860
What's most worrisome in Western Canada is the utter indifference of the central Canadian
00:40:00.860
elites and media to this phenomenon. And even the misreporting on it, they keep thinking it's just
00:40:10.160
If a clear independence referendum landed on the ballot, how would you vote?
00:40:14.620
I'm prepared to put that to Albertans and I'll let them decide.
00:40:19.700
My job is to see this very legitimate concern that Albertans have, that Canada is just not
00:40:26.420
working for Alberta. We are on Team Canada, but Team Canada is not on Team Alberta.