The Candice Malcolm Show - May 29, 2025


Candice Malcolm DEBUNKS CTV's Alberta separation lies


Episode Stats

Length

11 minutes

Words per Minute

182.48824

Word Count

2,121

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

In this episode of Fake News Friday, host Candice Malcolm Gladwell and her producer read past the headlines to debunk the idea that 29% of Alberta s voters want the province to become independent of Canada. Is there any economic reason why this is a good idea?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 okay folks we used to do a segment on the candace malcolm show called fake news friday it was our
00:00:07.720 favorite segment and one of the things i used to do is read through a legacy media news article
00:00:14.060 and just point out all the flaws we haven't done in a while and so my producer handed me this story
00:00:18.720 we decided that we would read past the headlines and show you the genesis of fake news so here is
00:00:24.280 the article that we are talking about 29 of albertans support the idea of separation from
00:00:28.960 canada leger polls you might recognize this one i've used it a couple of times on my show but i've
00:00:32.920 never really dug into it and when you dig into it you realize just how absurd it is okay so it starts
00:00:37.900 off with that leger poll it says leger poll suggests 29 of albertans want the province to become a
00:00:42.660 country independent of canada 1 000 people were surveyed over three days earlier this month 43
00:00:47.420 percent of respondents say economic reasons such as taxation and federal policies are the reasons
00:00:53.000 they support independence and then other people who have participated 67 percent were opposed
00:00:57.980 well five percent didn't know and so the author wants to sort of zoom in on those 43 percent of
00:01:03.520 respondents who want to separate who say the reason that they want to separate is because of economic
00:01:07.940 reasons this is a drastic departure by the way from quebec right quebec wants to separate because of
00:01:12.560 language reasons and cultural reasons whereas in alberta it really is the financial reasons right we all
00:01:17.960 know this that equalization means that albertans get raked by the federal government that albertans
00:01:22.440 send their taxation dollars over to big government provinces like quebec atlantic canada and sometimes
00:01:29.080 even ontario for them to provide lavish social services that alberta themselves don't even have
00:01:35.140 and so yes fundamentally it is an economic complaint that they have and so this ctv reporter wants to
00:01:41.400 sort of debunk that idea so here she says with nearly a third respondent supporting idea economist
00:01:46.860 mosch lander says it's emotion behind the numbers and not economics then she quotes this individual
00:01:52.800 mosch lander saying there's no mainstream economist who says this will work they're not even saying it
00:01:58.540 could work launder told ctv news edmonton launder says decades of messaging in alberta against ottawa
00:02:05.480 has become an issue causing people to consider separating from canada they've just bought into
00:02:10.300 the narrative and they've decided that well i guess we just got to get rid of the problem rather than
00:02:16.040 recognizing that maybe it's the messaging or even the messenger that's the issue okay did you get
00:02:22.440 that so the whole idea is that it doesn't make any economic sense says this economist and it's just
00:02:27.160 propaganda so if you have any inclination towards alberta independence if you think that alberta is
00:02:32.660 like i said getting raked over equalization it's just because of messaging and the messenger okay
00:02:38.440 let's just stop for a second let's pause for a second who is this economist mosch lander let's just do
00:02:43.380 a simple google search it leads us to saying he is a lecturer at concordia university in montreal so
00:02:50.600 this is a professor based in quebec saying to albertans if you believe in this idea it's because
00:02:56.700 you've been fed propaganda and saying definitively that there is no economic case that there's no
00:03:02.980 mainstream economist who says this will work says the montreal lecturer at concordia university
00:03:09.920 according to his linkedin page prior to being a lecturer at the university of concordia he was a
00:03:16.720 bureaucrat in the alberta legislature so he was a government bureaucrat economist in edmonton working
00:03:23.340 for the provincial government and then he went over and became a professor in montreal i just love the
00:03:28.640 definitiveness no mainstream economist says this will work well let's just try another simple google search
00:03:33.800 i'll go over to chat gpt ai search engine just type this in provide a list of economists who say
00:03:40.420 alberta could thrive independently and lo and behold here we go now not saying that any of these
00:03:46.300 economists support alberta separation or say that it's a good idea but these are all people who have
00:03:52.600 written about it and say it could work so first you have jack men's probably canada's preeminent
00:03:56.980 economist and financial thinker we had him on the show a few weeks ago the episode did really really
00:04:02.300 well jack men's is like the gold standard of economists in canada and here it says you know
00:04:08.480 right on chat gpt it says jack men's a respected economist at the university of calgary school of public
00:04:12.800 policy men's has highlighted alberta's entrepreneurial spirit and economic resilience he suggests that
00:04:18.100 with appropriate policy framework alberta could navigate future challenges here it is folks in the
00:04:22.980 cbc of all places back in 2018 albexit why this economist thinks alberta could separate from canada
00:04:30.840 and again creme de la creme economist jack men's saying that it could work so um ctv maybe you
00:04:37.520 should just google it next time uh another list of people uh from chat gpt here uh joseph du set who
00:04:43.400 is the dean of the alberta school of business he's emphasized alberta's competitive advantages
00:04:48.060 including his energy resources educated workforce he notes that while diversification is essential the
00:04:54.020 province's existing strength provide a solid foundation for economic growth next you have neil
00:04:58.480 valdo's president of the prestigious fraser institute valdo's has contributed to research
00:05:02.400 outlining policy frameworks aimed at fostering growth and prosperity in alberta while not advocating
00:05:06.980 for independence his work discusses strategies for enhancing the province's economic performance
00:05:12.420 so there you have it folks one search and we can entirely debunk this ctv article and so it's
00:05:18.720 interesting the next thing that this reporter goes on to is this bit that we covered on the show with
00:05:23.300 brett wilson where she goes to arlene dickinson who is a kind of you know she's a businesswoman
00:05:29.180 respected businesswoman and entrepreneur but she came out swinging against danielle smith premier of
00:05:34.840 alberta saying it's wholly un-canadian for her to even be entertaining a referendum a democratic-led
00:05:40.720 referendum and so we have these quotes from arlene dickinson saying it's totally unfair okay so just
00:05:46.620 from a news perspective right journalism school you're told to cover both this is disruptors
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00:06:11.180 besides the story so far this reporter has interviewed two people one an economist saying
00:06:17.740 that no economist could ever say that this could work which we easily debunk and then the second one
00:06:22.160 is a political activist on the political left saying that it's un-canadian to have a referendum
00:06:27.900 and a democratically led initiative which canada's constitution actually allows for
00:06:32.020 and a supreme court decision in the 90s allows for this for quebec so you know we might not like it
00:06:37.440 but it's part of the discussion so you have two people both saying that this is not good and wrong
00:06:42.900 where's the balance here folks where's the balance here uh finally i'll just read the end of this
00:06:48.200 article so she says a sense of fairness tegan hill director of alberta policy with the fraser
00:06:52.340 institute says albertans are rightfully frustrated they have made and continue to make an outsized
00:06:57.740 contribution to the federation to the rest of canada to the tune of 245 billion dollars hill told ctv at
00:07:03.760 the same time they continue to face federal policies that damage and restrict their key industry the
00:07:08.140 energy sector and so to be fair this person is not in any way advocating for alberta separatism but
00:07:13.540 she's just pointing out that yes alberta doesn't really get a fair shake economically and there are
00:07:19.300 policies that block alberta's growth and so they specifically mention the proposed emissions camp
00:07:24.460 as well as bill c69 which we call the no pipelines bill okay so this is a totally biased news story
00:07:31.500 right this whole idea she says she tries to debunk the economic ability of alberta to separate then
00:07:38.040 she talks about the sort of emotional side of it from this dragon's den lady and then she kind of just
00:07:43.560 tries to round it off by having someone from the fraser institute talk about like the legitimate
00:07:48.760 criticisms here and this is this is kind of how they bake the news this is what they do they they come
00:07:55.180 out and they say it's not viable and then that line an economist saying it's not viable gets repeated
00:08:00.800 and it shows up in other google searches and other ai searches and then all of a sudden people have
00:08:04.740 this impression that it would just not be economically viable for alberta to separate let's just click on
00:08:09.880 this journalist for a second miriam valdez carletti now i don't mean to necessarily pick on her but i'm
00:08:15.940 just using this as an example of sort of what we're up against right so let me just read a bit from her
00:08:21.580 bio it says miriam valdez carletti joined ctv news edmonton in march 2023 she has a passion for
00:08:26.900 reporting on human interest stories and issues affecting bipoc communities bipoc communities
00:08:32.840 that means black indigenous and people of color so in her intro sentence in her bio it says that she
00:08:40.500 has a passion for reporting on stories affecting basically anybody who isn't white bipoc basically
00:08:47.100 just means every single person in canada who is not would not be considered white as a people of color
00:08:52.880 such a vague term it kind of implies everybody so imagine like in her bio like the thing that she
00:08:59.240 says about herself is i really love telling stories about people who are not white i like covering the
00:09:05.500 news about all the people in canada who are not white like in what world is that okay in what world
00:09:10.460 is it okay to just have like a totally racist line in your bio and that's like who you are and that
00:09:15.040 represents who you are and the news team is like oh that's really important that's great yeah
00:09:18.660 definitely include that bit about how you love telling stories about people who are not white just
00:09:23.780 reading a bit more into her bio it says she was a bachelor of journalism from toronto metropolitan
00:09:28.580 university um what what is that oh right the university that was so woke that they changed their name
00:09:34.640 because they didn't want to be named after ryerson egerton ryerson who had in some way been some
00:09:40.160 tangentially connected to residential schools and so they decided to rename the university the only
00:09:45.960 problem is ryerson university journalism program has a bit of cachet right everybody kind of knows
00:09:50.960 that ryerson had a good journalism program like back in the day and so she writes that she went to
00:09:56.180 toronto metropolitan university because she has the correct woke opinion politically correct version
00:10:01.500 of the university but then she puts in parentheses formerly ryerson university so she gets the prestige
00:10:06.460 you see that so she wants to be connected to the school even though she wants to distance herself
00:10:10.540 from the school because she probably hates the legacy and this is what we're up against in the legacy
00:10:15.220 media right you have woke reporters pushing a woke worldview and distorting the news distorting what
00:10:21.540 is right news right this is an opinion piece this is not someone saying this is an op-ed this is my
00:10:25.640 opinion i believe that there's no economic case for a better separate this is a news story that tries
00:10:31.540 to purport to be fact-based and totally removed from any kind of bias and yet they're like just declaring
00:10:40.320 that this isn't an economically viable thing all right folks thanks so much for tuning in
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