The Candice Malcolm Show - Carney LOSES vote in the House, refuses to open the books + it’s “pride season” now

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you today. We have Sean Newman joining us in just a few minutes, and we're going to talk about the worst excesses of Pride Month. It's June, it's Pride Month, and I'm actually told by my producer it's not just Pride Month anymore. We now have to call it Pride Season. It's like going to last the entire summer. So we're going to get to that, but I want to start with some more serious business here, which is the fact that our Prime Minister, Mark Carney,

00:00:29.640 doesn't want to pass a budget. Well, the opposition parties, led by Conservative interim leader Andrew Scheer, are doing their best to try to compel him to issue a budget so that Canadians can have an idea of what our new Prime Minister and what this new government plans to spend our money on. And so on Monday evening, the House of Commons passed a Conservative amendment to the throne speech demanding an economic update or budget before the House adjourns for the summer.

00:00:57.480 That includes full accountability of Canada's finances. The motion passed, folks, 166 to 164 with support from all opposition parties. I can't tell you how rare this is that the Conservative Party would put forth a motion that would be agreed upon by all of the other parties aside from the governing Liberals.

00:01:16.760 That means that the NDP and the Bloc had to agree with this. That doesn't happen very often in Canadian politics.

00:01:23.340 But when it comes to just the basic business of government, I mean, hello, this is like government 101. Like, what are you spending your money on?

00:01:30.520 We're told that Mark Carney is this like expert banker and finance guy. Why can't he just tell us what he's spending his money on?

00:01:37.240 It's actually absolutely bizarre. So good for the Conservatives for getting this motion passed.

00:01:42.240 Good for all of the other MPs for having the common sense to say, yeah, we need to see the budget.

00:01:48.200 Let's play a clip of Mark Carney during question period saying that he would take note of the Conservative motion as if it was just a suggestion.

00:01:55.260 I'm not binding, but still let's let's play that clip.

00:01:58.560 We take note, take note of last night's motion. But what Canadians deserve, what Canadians deserve, what Canadian provinces deserve is a health care transfer.

00:02:09.520 It's a transfer for child care. It's a transfer for dental care. It's a transfer to support affordability.

00:02:15.420 That's what's in the main estimates. And we expect the support of members opposite.

00:02:19.740 That's just sort of neither here nor there. It's like, yeah, you can you can expect those things that the government said they're going to pay for.

00:02:25.300 But we just want to know what else you're spending money on and where it's going.

00:02:28.480 That's like the entire point of a budget there, Mr. Carney.

00:02:31.740 Next, we have this clip of him, of Prime Minister Mark Carney implying that Canadians should just trust him, saying we know how to grow the economy without spending money.

00:02:39.780 So let's play that clip.

00:02:41.160 Unlike the member opposite, I know the difference between a main estimate and a budget.

00:02:45.640 And unlike the members opposite, we know how to grow this economy without spending money.

00:02:51.860 And that's why we're proposing. That's why we're proposing a bill to build one Canadian economy out of 13.

00:03:00.680 So always quite a show in the House of Commons once they have a question period back up and running.

00:03:07.120 But, you know, this idea that they know how to grow the economy without spending money.

00:03:10.860 Well, then why do they keep spending so much money?

00:03:13.020 I wanted to get a comment on this from our friends at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:03:17.960 So I'm going to throw to this clip of Franco Terrazano commenting on this entire episode.

00:03:23.320 Over to you, Franco.

00:03:23.900 The banker was supposed to be better with the numbers than the drama teacher.

00:03:28.860 But you can't have any credibility on the finances if you can't even bother to put together a budget.

00:03:35.380 First, the Carney government told Canadians that we weren't getting a federal budget at all this year.

00:03:41.440 Now, that is just completely unacceptable.

00:03:43.880 It's our money.

00:03:44.960 We deserve full transparency from the government.

00:03:48.100 The government owes Canadians a budget.

00:03:50.980 Now, the Carney government, after backlash from Canadians, says we'll get a budget, well, sometime this fall.

00:03:59.800 Well, why is the government waiting so long?

00:04:02.560 How bad are the books?

00:04:04.980 Not to mention that our members of Parliament who we elect will have to vote on massive government spending.

00:04:13.200 MPs also need to know the state of the finances before they vote on the massive government spending.

00:04:20.160 Now, we do not have a budget yet, but the government has released its main spending plan, formerly known as the Main Estimates.

00:04:30.520 Now, Carney, during the election that he just ran in, said that he would rein in the massive government spending.

00:04:37.480 But it looks like Carney is going to continue Trudeau's debt-fueled spending spree.

00:04:42.600 So, those main estimates have more than $480 billion of spending in it.

00:04:50.420 That's an 8% increase over the last year.

00:04:55.100 In fact, the government has nearly doubled spending since 2016, according to those main estimates.

00:05:03.560 So, what does that all mean for you?

00:05:06.380 Well, more debt means higher taxes today, or higher taxes plus interest tomorrow, or more inflation as the central bank prints up new money out of thin air to finance Ottawa's huge deficits.

00:05:20.800 It also means that your kids and your grandkids are going to be making payments on that debt for the rest of their lives.

00:05:27.920 Now, remember, folks, the Trudeau government doubled the debt in less than a decade, and Carney plans to continue Trudeau's debt-fueled spending spree.

00:05:39.020 So, here is a breakdown of Carney's budget deficits that he ran on in his own election platform.

00:05:46.720 So, over the next four years, Carney plans on adding $225 billion to the debt.

00:06:11.960 So, for comparison, the Trudeau government planned on increasing the debt by about $131 billion over those same years.

00:06:21.620 So, Carney plans on adding almost $100 billion more to the debt than even Trudeau planned.

00:06:29.780 More debt also means more taxpayer dollars wasted on interest payments.

00:06:35.300 So, interest charges on the debt are already costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week.

00:06:43.640 The Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates that interest charges on the debt will cost taxpayers about $70 billion by 2029.

00:06:54.200 So, enough is enough.

00:06:56.880 Open up the books, put down the credit card, and pick up some scissors.

00:07:01.120 Well, that is some common sense, if I've ever heard it, from Franco.

00:07:06.580 I wish that just an ounce of that common sense would rub off on some of those members of Parliament in the Liberal Party and the Liberal government.

00:07:13.700 All right, I want to introduce our guest for the rest of the show.

00:07:16.140 I'm talking about Sean Newman.

00:07:17.240 Sean's the host of the Sean Newman Podcast, where he discusses issues relating to faith, family, and the broader Canadian political landscape.

00:07:23.960 Sean, great to have you back on the show.

00:07:25.780 Yeah, thanks for having me, Candice.

00:07:27.080 Well, it's funny, in your clips there, it goes from Carney saying, we're not going to spend money and we're going to grow the economy.

00:07:33.700 And then you flip to Franco, and Franco is showing that he's going to not only spend as much as Trudeau, but he's going to add $100 billion onto that.

00:07:41.640 So, something doesn't add up there, but that seems to be Canada these days.

00:07:45.560 Yeah, it's almost like one of them is not telling the truth.

00:07:48.500 That's right.

00:07:48.820 And I'll let the audience make that decision for themselves, who they think is being straight with us.

00:07:53.800 You know, it's interesting because you just think someone with Mark Carney's pedigree and his background, I mean, I think a major part of the reason he was elected is because people think he's a competent, trustworthy person who understands budgets and financing.

00:08:07.780 And yet, like, the basic element of that, release a budget, he's not doing.

00:08:11.760 It's interesting because during the campaign, they did release a costed budget for their platform that showed how much each promise would happen.

00:08:20.520 That in and of itself is a fairly big endeavor.

00:08:23.660 And so you would think that if they could do that, they could do a budget.

00:08:26.880 And also remember at the time, the conservative opposition accused them of just taking Justin Trudeau's budget, crossing out Trudeau government and writing in Carney government.

00:08:36.180 And the media insisted that wasn't the case.

00:08:39.120 Rosemary Barton and the CBC said that there was no evidence of that.

00:08:41.760 And that was that had been debunked.

00:08:43.440 And yet here we are, like, if they can come up with a costed platform, why can't they come up with a budget?

00:08:49.160 I think they're trying to pull some tricks.

00:08:51.380 You know, during the election campaign, Carney mentioned that he wanted to change the way the budgets were written.

00:08:56.880 So there's operating versus capital.

00:08:58.900 And so that requires going in and just like changing a bunch of stuff.

00:09:01.600 And so I imagine that he just needs, like, more time to do that so that when they finally release a budget, it'll look better than if they were just being straight and giving us the real numbers.

00:09:10.280 What do you make of this entire episode here?

00:09:15.660 You've been, you know, like, whenever I get across from someone such as yourself, you've been staring at this problem in the political circles longer than I have.

00:09:25.640 Um, but it's not shocking to me to see a politician say one thing and do something different.

00:09:31.720 It's just become the same old thing.

00:09:33.940 Like, it's not surprising anymore.

00:09:36.120 Um, Carney has said lots of things.

00:09:39.920 Uh, he's, he's doing, you know, he's doing what he wants.

00:09:44.600 And what's interesting to me about the clips, you know, when, when you're showing him talking, um, in session is, I remember when Justin Trudeau, maybe five years ago,

00:09:55.300 was it six years ago?

00:09:56.340 I, you know, there was a time when, if you looked at all the faces of the liberals behind him, all the MPs, they were all like nodding right in.

00:10:03.000 And then towards the end, everybody had their head down.

00:10:05.680 I remember, you know, they were just like, this is embarrassing.

00:10:08.380 And they all got their swagger back.

00:10:10.160 They're all very much in line with what Carney said.

00:10:12.860 Um, they're, you can almost see them just like, yeah, we got our leader back.

00:10:16.760 So, you know, the, the liberals are, are, they have a plan.

00:10:20.720 It doesn't mean I enjoy their plan.

00:10:22.320 It doesn't mean that I think it's going to be the best thing for Canadians.

00:10:25.300 I wish more Canadians would have, uh, paid attention beforehand because, yeah, Carney came in with these slogans and elbows up and, you know, we're going to, we're going to do all these great things.

00:10:35.300 But his track record hasn't been that.

00:10:37.480 I mean, he's tight, you know, like just go dig into it a little bit.

00:10:40.460 And you're like, this isn't what we need.

00:10:42.260 This is actually drastic what we do not need.

00:10:45.000 And we're seeing that right away.

00:10:46.220 You know, like, uh, when it comes to the money, the budget, we're going to be spending lots.

00:10:49.940 And, um, you know, we'll, we'll wait and see, but, uh, I don't, my, my hopes aren't, um, set on, on Carney or any other politician for that matter.

00:10:58.840 I, I, I think I've been maybe, um, I'm a little bit cynical when it comes to the world of politics, but a politician saying one thing and doing another thing, I think that's the oldest playbook they have.

00:11:08.980 Well, in some ways, I think that I, like, I want Mark Carney to do something different than what he said, because, I mean, if you go back and look at his book Values and the ideology that he has been promoting basically his entire adult life, um, pushing for net zero, uh, pushing for, you know, just many of the schemes that the World Economic Forum comes up with.

00:11:30.360 He, he sort of like infamously said, you know, I'm an elitist and I'm a globalist, but that's exactly what Canada needs right now.

00:11:36.200 Correct.

00:11:36.440 Right. It's like, and then, and then try to like circle that square with the Mark Carney that we saw this week at the first minister's meeting saying, we want Canada to be a energy superpower and we're going to do what we can to push through these national nation building projects.

00:11:50.960 So which one is it, Candace? Which one, which one is he?

00:11:53.960 I hope, I would hope that it's the Carney this week, right? And not the Carney of six months ago, but, you know, the, the classic political bait and switch, um, it's like, we're just waiting for it.

00:12:04.480 We're just waiting for it for the mask to come off and, you know, Justin Trudeau to be back, but just wearing a, you know.

00:12:11.120 Well, he definitely isn't Justin Trudeau, right? Like he's definitely a different version for a liberal leader. He's definitely, I don't know if you could like who, I don't know how you could get another Justin Trudeau in office at this point.

00:12:23.340 Like he just, you know, like 10 years of that, just like, how's this guy our leader? When I watch Mark Carney, I see a lot of things where I'm like, I understand the appeal to him at times. Right.

00:12:32.560 And, and the guy who was sitting in Saskatchewan and you hear the things coming out of him, you're like, that's interesting. That actually is interesting. Now, can they get it done?

00:12:39.780 That's an entirely different question. And will they get it done? And, you know, and what's he going to go back to the East and say, and how's that going to go? Right.

00:12:47.600 Like there's just so many questions, you know, it's interesting to me to watch it play out, but until there's shovels in the ground and things start actually getting built and things start moving in the right direction, you know, like I don't have a ton of faith in it.

00:12:59.520 And, and we've seen, you know, that you bring up his values book. I have a hard time going, he wrote that. You can still hear him talk about net zero and different things. And I'm like, yeah, even when he's talking about pipelines, he's talking about getting a net zero.

00:13:12.300 And you go like, I don't know, I have a hard time believing he's become a completely different man. And he's going to set Canada up as the energy superpower of the world. I have a hard time believing that.

00:13:24.580 Well, and even if, if, if you could picture him doing it, right, it's like, he's still in the same party as Stéphane Galbault. He's put him in his cabinet, right? Like he's still got Gerald Butz in the midst. He just appointed a new chief of staff that was a former United Nations person. That's also, you know, close with Gerald Butz.

00:13:43.300 It's like, you know, it's, it's hard to imagine that he's going to just like turn his back on his entire party, let alone, you know, his constituency. It was really Quebec that pushed him over the goal line here.

00:13:54.860 And we've heard from many leaders in Quebec that, you know, for them, a pipeline is just a non-starter. It's not going to happen. So it's interesting to see how he balances it all.

00:14:05.760 In some ways, I think he's digging himself into a hole and, you know, it might be a rude awakening for someone who's so inexperienced in political and sort of partisan politics.

00:14:15.560 What, what can happen when you try to be all things to all people?

00:14:19.680 Yeah. Well, he's paying lip service to both sides. And at some point, you know, rubber has to meet the road and we're going to find out which way it goes.

00:14:26.780 I think I have my idea of where it's going, but, you know, only time will tell.

00:14:31.000 Okay. I want to move on to, I think, a funner topic. And that is that it's June, which means it's Pride Month.

00:14:39.100 And pride is a cardinal sin. But, you know, in our culture, that is the time where all of the bank logos changed to rainbows and all the Canadian flags go down and the rainbow flags go up.

00:14:50.120 I really actually thought that we were moving away from this, Sean, as a culture and as a society, that it kind of peaked around like 2021 or 22 and that it was slowly going back to normal.

00:15:00.700 And then June hits us and it's like all right into our face. So here we have Anita Anand on X.

00:15:06.660 She's a cabinet minister in the Kearney government. She writes that today marks the beginning of Pride season across the country.

00:15:12.760 Everyone deserves to love who they love and be their true selves, free from discrimination. Happy Pride.

00:15:19.320 So, you know, it was I think it originally went from like a day and then it became a month.

00:15:24.560 A week, a month, a season. It'll be a year soon enough.

00:15:28.300 Right. Like, you know, like Friday is D-Day.

00:15:30.700 We have one day to celebrate the incredible sacrifices that were made during the Second World War that really built Canada into the country that it is.

00:15:38.180 We have one day for that. And yet it falls in the middle of this entire month dedicated to, you know, sure, it's great that people can have general freedoms in our society.

00:15:50.160 Freedom is really important. But but but I think it's turned a corner into like it's we're not just celebrating acceptance.

00:15:56.040 We're celebrating and promoting like a hedonistic lifestyle that's obsessed with sex. 0.91

00:16:00.460 It's like it's like we're just celebrating the fact that these people go out and get to have sex with whoever they want. 0.89

00:16:05.680 We're supposed to like congratulate them for that. What do you what do you make of all that?

00:16:11.200 Well, I would say I think you're when you said I think we've moved on from it.

00:16:16.480 I think most people have. I think most people are just like whatever.

00:16:20.580 Like you want to raise a flag giver like we we don't really care.

00:16:24.580 The the problem is, is when they start jamming it down your throats.

00:16:28.840 Right. Like, you know, when we talk about pride season and I just chuckle at that because I'm like, I know a handful of stores where the flag never goes down, where the crosswalk is always painted.

00:16:42.480 It's just it's just there.

00:16:43.980 And it's funny to, you know, like what it was at Air Canada had their first all pride.

00:16:49.380 Oh, yeah. We're going to get to this.

00:16:50.500 Just we're going to get to this.

00:16:51.360 We're going to get to it.

00:16:51.860 Well, OK, well, well, in the video, it's funny and I'll bring it back up again because the pilots like, well, let me get I better make sure I get this right.

00:16:59.720 Because a couple extra letters in there. I'm like, no kidding.

00:17:02.300 Every like 10 days, there's a new letter.

00:17:04.400 Every 10 days is a new color on the flag.

00:17:06.860 It's like I don't I really don't care.

00:17:09.920 The problem is, as a father, you know, the the reason it really hit a feverish point a few years ago is it was starting to and it still is.

00:17:17.660 Don't get me wrong. Alberta just had their, you know, they're talking about these books and getting them out of the schools.

00:17:22.480 And then they're being criticized for banning books.

00:17:24.580 And it's like, have you opened some of these books?

00:17:27.520 Like what parent wants any of that material in there?

00:17:30.740 Nobody. So like when it hits when it hits a certain age group where it's it's in a parent's peripheral.

00:17:36.580 Right. We're supposed to be there to be like, this doesn't make sense.

00:17:41.340 That's when it really irritates, I think, a lot of people.

00:17:44.060 I mean, you know, it's just, you know, I'm a diehard Emmitts Oilers fan tonight.

00:17:48.220 The Oilers play game one of of the Stanley Cup finals.

00:17:52.860 And, you know, what do they do?

00:17:55.300 Happy Pride Month.

00:17:56.200 And you're just like, but can't we just play hockey?

00:17:58.420 Do we have to like, you know, I just I just want.

00:18:00.860 But that's become everything.

00:18:03.040 Everybody's like that.

00:18:03.940 It's just they haven't learned their lessons yet.

00:18:06.040 There's, you know, you go back to the Dylan Mulvaney can and Bud Light.

00:18:09.900 They learned their lesson.

00:18:11.140 They moved on.

00:18:12.340 The United States now.

00:18:13.440 I think they, you know, they put out more and more stuff just trying to get away from all this ideology.

00:18:19.300 They're not trying to demonize the actual person.

00:18:21.780 You want to be an adult and go do your thing.

00:18:24.500 Most of us are like, well, I don't want.

00:18:27.260 OK, fine.

00:18:28.260 But just stop jamming it down our throats.

00:18:30.320 It's it's it's time to move on.

00:18:32.320 Like this is this is just played its course, I guess.

00:18:35.360 Well, 100 percent.

00:18:36.340 And like to me, when I see it at schools, like I'll be completely transparent.

00:18:39.580 My husband and I were looking around schools for our kids.

00:18:42.740 Right.

00:18:43.160 And there was a school in our area that we were interested in.

00:18:46.000 It's a private school.

00:18:46.820 And so we went out there to like tour it.

00:18:49.580 And literally they had a pride flag up.

00:18:51.140 Right.

00:18:51.340 And they had no Canadian flag up.

00:18:54.020 And so to me, it's like the idea of a flag is something that unites everybody.

00:18:57.120 Right.

00:18:57.580 And so a Canadian flag is supposed to represent every single person in the country.

00:19:01.340 Right.

00:19:01.800 But when I see a gay flag, I don't feel represented in that.

00:19:07.180 In fact, I feel like it's someone else pushing their ideology onto children.

00:19:10.660 Right. 0.76

00:19:10.980 Like the idea of being gay, it's like it's a sexual thing. 0.98

00:19:15.300 Right.

00:19:15.540 And so what does it have to do with children and kids?

00:19:18.260 Like it to me, it's just so blatantly wrong.

00:19:20.940 And like, I honestly, after I saw the flag, I'm like, I can't in good conscience let my

00:19:25.180 children to that school because I don't agree with the core values of the school.

00:19:29.040 And I fear that that has just spread throughout our entire society.

00:19:32.080 Now, Sean, I just have to preface this because we have been getting demonetized on YouTube

00:19:37.680 lately because some of our episodes are just a little bit too spicy.

00:19:42.080 And so I do have a couple of more examples that I want to share.

00:19:46.000 Are you saying I'm too spicy for your YouTube, Janice?

00:19:48.320 Is that what I'm getting?

00:19:49.360 Well, maybe you.

00:19:50.200 Well, I mean, me too, because a couple of the episodes that got defunded, it was just

00:19:53.760 me alone, my choice of topics.

00:19:56.140 But yeah, so we're going to continue this conversation over at Juno News.

00:19:59.280 I urge everybody to head on over to JunoNews.com, become a premium subscriber, and you can watch

00:20:04.640 the rest of the show.

00:20:05.300 It's going to be a good one.

The Candice Malcolm Show - June 04, 2025

Carney LOSES vote in the House, refuses to open the books + it’s “pride season” now

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