Candice Malan and Sean Newman discuss the lack of a federal budget from Prime Minister Mark Carney, and why it's time for him to just tell us what he's spending our money on. Plus, a look at the worst excesses of Pride Month.
00:00:00.000Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you today. We have Sean Newman joining us in just a few minutes, and we're going to talk about the worst excesses of Pride Month. It's June, it's Pride Month, and I'm actually told by my producer it's not just Pride Month anymore. We now have to call it Pride Season. It's like going to last the entire summer. So we're going to get to that, but I want to start with some more serious business here, which is the fact that our Prime Minister, Mark Carney,
00:00:29.640doesn't want to pass a budget. Well, the opposition parties, led by Conservative interim leader Andrew Scheer, are doing their best to try to compel him to issue a budget so that Canadians can have an idea of what our new Prime Minister and what this new government plans to spend our money on. And so on Monday evening, the House of Commons passed a Conservative amendment to the throne speech demanding an economic update or budget before the House adjourns for the summer.
00:00:57.480That includes full accountability of Canada's finances. The motion passed, folks, 166 to 164 with support from all opposition parties. I can't tell you how rare this is that the Conservative Party would put forth a motion that would be agreed upon by all of the other parties aside from the governing Liberals.
00:01:16.760That means that the NDP and the Bloc had to agree with this. That doesn't happen very often in Canadian politics.
00:01:23.340But when it comes to just the basic business of government, I mean, hello, this is like government 101. Like, what are you spending your money on?
00:01:30.520We're told that Mark Carney is this like expert banker and finance guy. Why can't he just tell us what he's spending his money on?
00:01:37.240It's actually absolutely bizarre. So good for the Conservatives for getting this motion passed.
00:01:42.240Good for all of the other MPs for having the common sense to say, yeah, we need to see the budget.
00:01:48.200Let's play a clip of Mark Carney during question period saying that he would take note of the Conservative motion as if it was just a suggestion.
00:01:55.260I'm not binding, but still let's let's play that clip.
00:01:58.560We take note, take note of last night's motion. But what Canadians deserve, what Canadians deserve, what Canadian provinces deserve is a health care transfer.
00:02:09.520It's a transfer for child care. It's a transfer for dental care. It's a transfer to support affordability.
00:02:15.420That's what's in the main estimates. And we expect the support of members opposite.
00:02:19.740That's just sort of neither here nor there. It's like, yeah, you can you can expect those things that the government said they're going to pay for.
00:02:25.300But we just want to know what else you're spending money on and where it's going.
00:02:28.480That's like the entire point of a budget there, Mr. Carney.
00:02:31.740Next, we have this clip of him, of Prime Minister Mark Carney implying that Canadians should just trust him, saying we know how to grow the economy without spending money.
00:05:06.380Well, more debt means higher taxes today, or higher taxes plus interest tomorrow, or more inflation as the central bank prints up new money out of thin air to finance Ottawa's huge deficits.
00:05:20.800It also means that your kids and your grandkids are going to be making payments on that debt for the rest of their lives.
00:05:27.920Now, remember, folks, the Trudeau government doubled the debt in less than a decade, and Carney plans to continue Trudeau's debt-fueled spending spree.
00:05:39.020So, here is a breakdown of Carney's budget deficits that he ran on in his own election platform.
00:05:46.720So, over the next four years, Carney plans on adding $225 billion to the debt.
00:06:11.960So, for comparison, the Trudeau government planned on increasing the debt by about $131 billion over those same years.
00:06:21.620So, Carney plans on adding almost $100 billion more to the debt than even Trudeau planned.
00:06:29.780More debt also means more taxpayer dollars wasted on interest payments.
00:06:35.300So, interest charges on the debt are already costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week.
00:06:43.640The Parliamentary Budget Officer estimates that interest charges on the debt will cost taxpayers about $70 billion by 2029.
00:06:56.880Open up the books, put down the credit card, and pick up some scissors.
00:07:01.120Well, that is some common sense, if I've ever heard it, from Franco.
00:07:06.580I wish that just an ounce of that common sense would rub off on some of those members of Parliament in the Liberal Party and the Liberal government.
00:07:13.700All right, I want to introduce our guest for the rest of the show.
00:07:17.240Sean's the host of the Sean Newman Podcast, where he discusses issues relating to faith, family, and the broader Canadian political landscape.
00:07:23.960Sean, great to have you back on the show.
00:07:27.080Well, it's funny, in your clips there, it goes from Carney saying, we're not going to spend money and we're going to grow the economy.
00:07:33.700And then you flip to Franco, and Franco is showing that he's going to not only spend as much as Trudeau, but he's going to add $100 billion onto that.
00:07:41.640So, something doesn't add up there, but that seems to be Canada these days.
00:07:45.560Yeah, it's almost like one of them is not telling the truth.
00:07:48.820And I'll let the audience make that decision for themselves, who they think is being straight with us.
00:07:53.800You know, it's interesting because you just think someone with Mark Carney's pedigree and his background, I mean, I think a major part of the reason he was elected is because people think he's a competent, trustworthy person who understands budgets and financing.
00:08:07.780And yet, like, the basic element of that, release a budget, he's not doing.
00:08:11.760It's interesting because during the campaign, they did release a costed budget for their platform that showed how much each promise would happen.
00:08:20.520That in and of itself is a fairly big endeavor.
00:08:23.660And so you would think that if they could do that, they could do a budget.
00:08:26.880And also remember at the time, the conservative opposition accused them of just taking Justin Trudeau's budget, crossing out Trudeau government and writing in Carney government.
00:08:36.180And the media insisted that wasn't the case.
00:08:39.120Rosemary Barton and the CBC said that there was no evidence of that.
00:08:58.900And so that requires going in and just like changing a bunch of stuff.
00:09:01.600And so I imagine that he just needs, like, more time to do that so that when they finally release a budget, it'll look better than if they were just being straight and giving us the real numbers.
00:09:10.280What do you make of this entire episode here?
00:09:15.660You've been, you know, like, whenever I get across from someone such as yourself, you've been staring at this problem in the political circles longer than I have.
00:09:25.640Um, but it's not shocking to me to see a politician say one thing and do something different.
00:09:39.920Uh, he's, he's doing, you know, he's doing what he wants.
00:09:44.600And what's interesting to me about the clips, you know, when, when you're showing him talking, um, in session is, I remember when Justin Trudeau, maybe five years ago,
00:09:56.340I, you know, there was a time when, if you looked at all the faces of the liberals behind him, all the MPs, they were all like nodding right in.
00:10:03.000And then towards the end, everybody had their head down.
00:10:05.680I remember, you know, they were just like, this is embarrassing.
00:10:22.320It doesn't mean that I think it's going to be the best thing for Canadians.
00:10:25.300I wish more Canadians would have, uh, paid attention beforehand because, yeah, Carney came in with these slogans and elbows up and, you know, we're going to, we're going to do all these great things.
00:10:35.300But his track record hasn't been that.
00:10:37.480I mean, he's tight, you know, like just go dig into it a little bit.
00:10:40.460And you're like, this isn't what we need.
00:10:42.260This is actually drastic what we do not need.
00:10:46.220You know, like, uh, when it comes to the money, the budget, we're going to be spending lots.
00:10:49.940And, um, you know, we'll, we'll wait and see, but, uh, I don't, my, my hopes aren't, um, set on, on Carney or any other politician for that matter.
00:10:58.840I, I, I think I've been maybe, um, I'm a little bit cynical when it comes to the world of politics, but a politician saying one thing and doing another thing, I think that's the oldest playbook they have.
00:11:08.980Well, in some ways, I think that I, like, I want Mark Carney to do something different than what he said, because, I mean, if you go back and look at his book Values and the ideology that he has been promoting basically his entire adult life, um, pushing for net zero, uh, pushing for, you know, just many of the schemes that the World Economic Forum comes up with.
00:11:30.360He, he sort of like infamously said, you know, I'm an elitist and I'm a globalist, but that's exactly what Canada needs right now.
00:11:36.440Right. It's like, and then, and then try to like circle that square with the Mark Carney that we saw this week at the first minister's meeting saying, we want Canada to be a energy superpower and we're going to do what we can to push through these national nation building projects.
00:11:50.960So which one is it, Candace? Which one, which one is he?
00:11:53.960I hope, I would hope that it's the Carney this week, right? And not the Carney of six months ago, but, you know, the, the classic political bait and switch, um, it's like, we're just waiting for it.
00:12:04.480We're just waiting for it for the mask to come off and, you know, Justin Trudeau to be back, but just wearing a, you know.
00:12:11.120Well, he definitely isn't Justin Trudeau, right? Like he's definitely a different version for a liberal leader. He's definitely, I don't know if you could like who, I don't know how you could get another Justin Trudeau in office at this point.
00:12:23.340Like he just, you know, like 10 years of that, just like, how's this guy our leader? When I watch Mark Carney, I see a lot of things where I'm like, I understand the appeal to him at times. Right.
00:12:32.560And, and the guy who was sitting in Saskatchewan and you hear the things coming out of him, you're like, that's interesting. That actually is interesting. Now, can they get it done?
00:12:39.780That's an entirely different question. And will they get it done? And, you know, and what's he going to go back to the East and say, and how's that going to go? Right.
00:12:47.600Like there's just so many questions, you know, it's interesting to me to watch it play out, but until there's shovels in the ground and things start actually getting built and things start moving in the right direction, you know, like I don't have a ton of faith in it.
00:12:59.520And, and we've seen, you know, that you bring up his values book. I have a hard time going, he wrote that. You can still hear him talk about net zero and different things. And I'm like, yeah, even when he's talking about pipelines, he's talking about getting a net zero.
00:13:12.300And you go like, I don't know, I have a hard time believing he's become a completely different man. And he's going to set Canada up as the energy superpower of the world. I have a hard time believing that.
00:13:43.300It's like, you know, it's, it's hard to imagine that he's going to just like turn his back on his entire party, let alone, you know, his constituency. It was really Quebec that pushed him over the goal line here.
00:13:54.860And we've heard from many leaders in Quebec that, you know, for them, a pipeline is just a non-starter. It's not going to happen. So it's interesting to see how he balances it all.
00:14:05.760In some ways, I think he's digging himself into a hole and, you know, it might be a rude awakening for someone who's so inexperienced in political and sort of partisan politics.
00:14:15.560What, what can happen when you try to be all things to all people?
00:14:19.680Yeah. Well, he's paying lip service to both sides. And at some point, you know, rubber has to meet the road and we're going to find out which way it goes.
00:14:26.780I think I have my idea of where it's going, but, you know, only time will tell.
00:14:31.000Okay. I want to move on to, I think, a funner topic. And that is that it's June, which means it's Pride Month.
00:14:39.100And pride is a cardinal sin. But, you know, in our culture, that is the time where all of the bank logos changed to rainbows and all the Canadian flags go down and the rainbow flags go up.
00:14:50.120I really actually thought that we were moving away from this, Sean, as a culture and as a society, that it kind of peaked around like 2021 or 22 and that it was slowly going back to normal.
00:15:00.700And then June hits us and it's like all right into our face. So here we have Anita Anand on X.
00:15:06.660She's a cabinet minister in the Kearney government. She writes that today marks the beginning of Pride season across the country.
00:15:12.760Everyone deserves to love who they love and be their true selves, free from discrimination. Happy Pride.
00:15:19.320So, you know, it was I think it originally went from like a day and then it became a month.
00:15:24.560A week, a month, a season. It'll be a year soon enough.
00:15:28.300Right. Like, you know, like Friday is D-Day.
00:15:30.700We have one day to celebrate the incredible sacrifices that were made during the Second World War that really built Canada into the country that it is.
00:15:38.180We have one day for that. And yet it falls in the middle of this entire month dedicated to, you know, sure, it's great that people can have general freedoms in our society.
00:15:50.160Freedom is really important. But but but I think it's turned a corner into like it's we're not just celebrating acceptance.
00:15:56.040We're celebrating and promoting like a hedonistic lifestyle that's obsessed with sex.
00:16:00.460It's like it's like we're just celebrating the fact that these people go out and get to have sex with whoever they want.
00:16:05.680We're supposed to like congratulate them for that. What do you what do you make of all that?
00:16:11.200Well, I would say I think you're when you said I think we've moved on from it.
00:16:16.480I think most people have. I think most people are just like whatever.
00:16:20.580Like you want to raise a flag giver like we we don't really care.
00:16:24.580The the problem is, is when they start jamming it down your throats.
00:16:28.840Right. Like, you know, when we talk about pride season and I just chuckle at that because I'm like, I know a handful of stores where the flag never goes down, where the crosswalk is always painted.
00:16:51.860Well, OK, well, well, in the video, it's funny and I'll bring it back up again because the pilots like, well, let me get I better make sure I get this right.
00:16:59.720Because a couple extra letters in there. I'm like, no kidding.
00:17:02.300Every like 10 days, there's a new letter.
00:17:04.400Every 10 days is a new color on the flag.
00:17:06.860It's like I don't I really don't care.
00:17:09.920The problem is, as a father, you know, the the reason it really hit a feverish point a few years ago is it was starting to and it still is.
00:17:17.660Don't get me wrong. Alberta just had their, you know, they're talking about these books and getting them out of the schools.
00:17:22.480And then they're being criticized for banning books.
00:17:24.580And it's like, have you opened some of these books?
00:17:27.520Like what parent wants any of that material in there?
00:17:30.740Nobody. So like when it hits when it hits a certain age group where it's it's in a parent's peripheral.
00:17:36.580Right. We're supposed to be there to be like, this doesn't make sense.
00:17:41.340That's when it really irritates, I think, a lot of people.
00:17:44.060I mean, you know, it's just, you know, I'm a diehard Emmitts Oilers fan tonight.
00:17:48.220The Oilers play game one of of the Stanley Cup finals.