The Candice Malcolm Show - Carney sidelines pipelines + Doug Ford tells unemployed youth to “look harder”

00:00:00.000 Welcome to The Candace Malcolm Show. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation filling in for Candace this week. Thank you so much for making us a part of your day in your week. If you haven't done so yet, remember to like and subscribe to this YouTube channel, like this video, and most importantly, share this with your friends.

00:00:23.280 You'd be surprised on how many folks haven't heard about indie and alternative media sources, and they're not getting the red pills they need. So make sure you share this with your friends. Lots to talk about, super busy day today, and that's because you can hear it, okay? The kids are coming back to school in Ottawa. The circus is about to go back into Ottawa. But first, they're actually occupying Alberta's capital right now, the Federal Liberal Caucus.

00:00:49.520 What that means is all of the elected MPs are gathering in Edmonton, Alberta. So what they're supposed to be doing is putting their heads together, saying, what do we want to do for the fall session? What do we want our priorities to be? What is the opposition going to throw at us? All important stuff for the government.

00:01:07.420 But we have some breaking news here that will definitely be throwing a spanner into this works. It is from Radio Canada, which is the French arm of our state broadcaster, the CBC. But they've got several sources, and they're writing initially in French media, but it's taking off through English media now through translation.

00:01:27.920 And it goes something like this. Apparently, a pipeline is not high on the priority list. It's not on the menu for Prime Minister Mark Carney's to-do list. If that's true, buckle up.

00:01:43.060 Because as we know, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe have been crystal clear about this, saying they want Bill C-69 either modified entirely or scrapped altogether. That's the so-called No More Pipelines law.

00:01:59.060 They want the tanker ban off the West Coast gone. Basically, we've got the two kind of real resource-rich powerhouse provinces, Alberta and Saskatchewan, linking arms and telling Ottawa, after 10 years of strangulation, after 10 years of saying no, no, no, no to resources and chasing away hundreds of billions of dollars in investment in Canada, that's over.

00:02:24.160 Remember, we want to change. You have to take this seriously. And things like East-West Pipelines to get product out to market, the world market, that is a must.

00:02:34.980 So if this is true, and if they're not actually going to make this a priority, that's going to be a really big deal.

00:02:42.180 Where do we go from here when we're in this kind of a situation in Canada, when we have the House of Commons coming back in Ottawa? What's going to be the major issue? Let's find out.

00:02:51.960 Joining us now is Brian Lilly. He is the senior columnist for the Toronto Sun newspaper chain. Do you like me calling you senior? Or do you want me to call you, like, chief columnist? Like, what would you prefer?

00:03:03.560 I don't know if that's my official title, but it does make me sound old, which I guess I am.

00:03:09.400 He's the sniper.

00:03:10.860 You were my intern, what, 25 years ago?

00:03:12.500 So, back story, yeah. I had to jump in Brian's car when we were working at radio. We were going to a house fire. It was like 3 in the morning. That's back when radio stations had stuff and reporters, and we covered things.

00:03:23.060 So, yes, Brian Lilly, he is with the Toronto Sun newspaper chain. He also is host of his podcast, Full Comment.

00:03:29.980 I strongly recommend that you listen to this podcast, because that's how, no, really, that's how I catch up on stuff on the weekends.

00:03:38.060 I'll plug in to talk radio podcasts, because you talk to some normies in the mainstream media, and you also talk to people like us in indie media.

00:03:47.360 So, it's a great conduit, Brian.

00:03:49.200 We have so much to talk about here.

00:03:50.740 We were chatting over the weekend, and you got a chance to sit down with a fireside chat with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith.

00:03:57.820 What was your main takeaway from that?

00:04:00.280 She's optimistic about Alberta's future in Canada.

00:04:03.400 Well, that was before this news came out.

00:04:05.340 I mean, we were talking about her number one priority.

00:04:09.700 The number one priority for the industry is a pipeline to the northwest coast of British Columbia.

00:04:14.360 She kind of downplayed the idea of Energy East, essentially saying, you know, it's not really feasible right now.

00:04:21.100 We should look elsewhere.

00:04:22.300 We talked about Churchill or perhaps a port just south of Churchill, because, as she pointed out, Churchill, Manitoba is a major tourism destination.

00:04:29.920 But there is an opportunity just south of there that, if we invest in the right infrastructure, could be good for getting Alberta oil to eastern Canadian refineries, northeastern American refineries, and off to Europe as well.

00:04:46.160 So, look, she's very optimistic.

00:04:49.100 But then you get this news that they're not going to put forward a pipeline.

00:04:53.500 And I keep hearing liberals say, well, no company has put forward a proposal.

00:04:58.260 I mean, companies don't want to do this.

00:05:01.360 Why don't they want to do this, Chris?

00:05:03.400 Because the regulatory environment, whether it's Bill C-69, the West Coast tanker ban, the emissions cap, which is really a production cap, all of those things play out.

00:05:14.160 Now, you know me.

00:05:15.920 I'm an eastern Canadian boy.

00:05:17.840 I'm born and raised in Hamilton.

00:05:19.920 I've spent most of my career in the Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, you know, triangle.

00:05:25.840 But I understand western Canada.

00:05:27.600 You know, married to a Sasky, got, you know, worked with Saskys, got understanding of Alberta, friends in Alberta.

00:05:35.460 I understand all of this.

00:05:37.120 And I don't think that my colleagues here in eastern and central Canada really get what the sentiment is in Alberta.

00:05:45.480 And more importantly, Saskatchewan right now, because Saskatchewan has a higher percentage of people saying they want independence.

00:05:52.940 It's about only about a third, a little over a third.

00:05:55.620 But you keep doing stuff like this.

00:05:57.180 And guess what?

00:05:57.660 That goes higher.

00:05:58.840 That's because, go ahead.

00:06:00.520 Well, it just becomes a more popular expression of the frustration.

00:06:06.580 And there is a real frustration.

00:06:08.220 You know, as Premier Smith said to me, what really offends Albertans is getting eastern Canadian politicians saying, look, we don't want your product.

00:06:18.900 We don't want your pipeline, but keep sending the equalization payments. 0.76

00:06:25.860 So people are going to, if this does not happen, if Mark Carney, you know, follows through on what Radio Canada is reporting, this is going to hurt national unity in a big, big way.

00:06:39.840 Yeah, it absolutely will.

00:06:42.160 My hunch is, is that separation sentiment is slightly higher in Saskatchewan is because of the population weighted in Edmonton.

00:06:50.760 There's a lot of kind of government embracing types that live around Edmonton.

00:06:55.760 Speaking of government embracing types that are in Edmonton, the Liberal caucus is having their usual like retreat where they go to some place in Canada that's outside of Ottawa, where we already pay for office buildings.

00:07:06.280 And they have their caucus retreat before the House comes back.

00:07:09.760 That's happening right now.

00:07:11.240 So lots happening.

00:07:12.360 Speaking of what's happening, to your point, straight up, you had a really good interview with the Premier over the weekend.

00:07:18.600 And what was funny, this is inside baseball, the Premier was like 30 seconds late and people stood up for a standing ovation to have Premier Smith walk into the room.

00:07:27.500 And it was great.

00:07:28.080 In walks Brian.

00:07:29.080 Yay.

00:07:29.880 It was great.

00:07:30.940 He took the podium for a second.

00:07:32.360 I'm going to defend, I'm going to interrupt here for a moment and defend the idea that the Liberals are holding their caucus retreat in Edmonton.

00:07:39.260 Okay.

00:07:39.820 I prefer they held it in Red Deer or Lethbridge or Calgary, but I'll take Edmonton.

00:07:45.820 Here's why this is important.

00:07:47.600 Because how many seats do the Liberals have in Alberta?

00:07:51.840 They have two.

00:07:52.940 Across the entire Prairie region.

00:07:55.220 So we'll take Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta.

00:07:58.300 There are 65 seats.

00:07:59.580 Do you know how many the Liberals hold?

00:08:00.740 I think two or three.

00:08:02.860 Nine.

00:08:03.620 Nine.

00:08:04.160 Okay, wow.

00:08:04.780 That's even more than I thought.

00:08:06.360 They've got six in Manitoba.

00:08:07.840 They've got two in Alberta.

00:08:08.860 They've got one in Saskatchewan.

00:08:10.780 They don't understand this region.

00:08:12.620 And a lot of their Quebec and Ontario folks, they don't know this region.

00:08:16.480 So going out and speaking, I know folks will say, well, but they've already got the office built.

00:08:20.740 Look, the folks have to fly from all over the country anyway.

00:08:23.800 Take them to a region they don't know.

00:08:25.960 Expose them to the thinking.

00:08:27.420 Let them talk to normal people.

00:08:29.340 Hopefully they do.

00:08:30.880 You know, I'm not sure that they will.

00:08:32.660 I was going to say, will they though?

00:08:34.520 All right.

00:08:35.020 But I'm hopeful that they do.

00:08:36.460 And then maybe they get a better understanding and they go, hey, wait a minute.

00:08:41.520 It's not just, you know, bumpkins.

00:08:44.240 They're in favor of this.

00:08:45.880 Normal, regular people are so frustrated with the country that they're willing to say, maybe we're better off getting out.

00:08:51.980 And if you understand that, maybe you act and you do something like saying, you know what?

00:08:58.100 We got to get a pipeline on that list of national major projects.

00:09:02.120 Their very popular NHL team is called the Oilers.

00:09:06.180 Just saying, you know, kind of a thing.

00:09:08.660 Like whale oil?

00:09:10.280 Hey, quick side note.

00:09:12.060 And you and I talk about this all the time off air.

00:09:14.240 It was, it was petroleum.

00:09:16.220 It was the discovery of normal oil that we would consider normal oil coming out of the ground that saved the whales.

00:09:21.700 Look it up.

00:09:22.260 All of the oil before that was whale oil, my friends.

00:09:26.480 That's why they were this close to going extinct.

00:09:28.600 So the next time people get all up in your grill about wanting a pipeline or liking using natural gas and oil, tell them that's what saved the whales.

00:09:36.040 Okay.

00:09:36.420 You had a really good sit down with the premier and I wanted to highlight it.

00:09:40.240 We've got a clip from that interview.

00:09:41.880 Let's listen.

00:09:43.240 Are you optimistic that he'll move on the issues that you're raising?

00:09:47.140 You've gone from nine to three.

00:09:49.600 Any hope?

00:09:50.960 We need all nine.

00:09:52.260 But there are certain ones that he has to get started on right away.

00:09:55.500 If we're going to get our bitumen pipeline to the northwest BC coast, you have to have a rewrite of the C-69 policies.

00:10:04.340 You have to get rid of the tanker ban and you have to get rid of the emissions cap.

00:10:07.360 No point in building a brand new shiny pipeline if you can't encourage your oil producers to fill it.

00:10:14.380 And even if it is filled, you're not allowed to load it on a ship to export it anywhere.

00:10:17.540 Like those are sort of the, those are, I call it the table stakes.

00:10:20.500 Those are the minimum they have to do to at least allow us to get a bitumen pipeline built.

00:10:26.220 And then we have to do the others as well.

00:10:29.100 Brian, what was your takeaway from your interview with the premier?

00:10:31.620 Like she was a good mix of, as the kids say, white pills and a couple of red pills in there. 1.00

00:10:35.880 You know, I've, I've known Danielle Smith off and on for 15 plus years now, I'd say.

00:10:43.800 And, you know, we, we've both worked in talk radio.

00:10:46.660 We've both worked in the media.

00:10:48.840 She is performing far above my expectations of her as premier.

00:10:53.660 And that's not an insult.

00:10:54.920 It's not like I expected it to be horrible.

00:10:56.780 It's just that, you know, going from a talk radio host to premier, that's a big jump.

00:11:02.260 And she is done exceptionally well.

00:11:04.900 I think that there are people out my way that don't understand her, that don't understand the province and don't understand why she takes certain positions.

00:11:14.420 She was very positive about Alberta's future.

00:11:18.560 You know, is she still that positive?

00:11:20.240 I think she's going to put forward a positive view.

00:11:23.580 Her and Scott Moe, and I've spoken to both of them in public and in private, and they are willing to say, look, we'll work with Mark Carney.

00:11:32.580 They're saying that Mark Carney is far different than Justin Trudeau.

00:11:36.160 But every premier I've talked to, and I talked to lots of them, have said the same thing.

00:11:40.300 Justin Trudeau would show up at a meeting 45 minutes late, lecture you for 15 minutes, ignore everything you said, and leave early.

00:11:47.420 That was kind of what he did.

00:11:48.840 Mark Carney shows up on time, and even if he doesn't agree with you, listens and takes notes and asks follow-up questions, does all the things that you expect a leader to do that Justin Trudeau didn't.

00:12:03.340 So they've been willing to cut him some slack.

00:12:06.360 If he does not deliver on things like a bitumen pipeline, that will stop.

00:12:12.300 And I think that when you look at the polling, the entire country is behind building big infrastructure and developing our resources.

00:12:23.000 If he doesn't do that, he's going to lose popular support as well. 0.96

00:12:26.240 Look, you know, this may sound really inside baseball, but there's already been one decision that I think was idiotic, that was an easy win for Carney. 0.53

00:12:34.920 And that was to overturn a CRTC decision that said Bell Canada had to hand over its internet lines, its Bell internet fiber lines, that they paid billions of dollars to install in Ontario to tell us, to sell at a discount. 0.81

00:12:53.540 So, you know, it used to be that if you were going to do that, well, you allowed the company a couple of years to recoup some of their investment.

00:13:00.840 And the CRTC said, no, we need cheaper internet, so we need to do this now.

00:13:05.220 And Cabinet could have overturned that and said, well, you know, companies won't invest if we don't allow them to recoup their investment.

00:13:12.580 They didn't do that.

00:13:14.260 Bell stopped laying fiber cable in southern Ontario and Quebec and elsewhere because they just said it makes no sense.

00:13:21.680 What they do, they turned around and used the money they saved to buy a company in the United States, why they can get a return on investment.

00:13:28.560 We need to make it so that companies can make money.

00:13:33.300 You know, you can hate Bell all you want.

00:13:35.160 You can hate Tellus.

00:13:35.920 You can hate Rogers.

00:13:36.800 If these companies aren't making money, guess what?

00:13:38.860 They're not hiring people.

00:13:40.400 We need to have a business environment that allows companies to make money, be it in oil, be it in autos, be it in telecom. 0.85

00:13:49.780 But, you know, another stupid story that's out today is that the Carney government is looking at lifting the EV mandates.

00:13:56.140 And I know some of my friends who are canola farmers, hi, Uncle Doug, hi, Uncle Reg, you know, they're going to be saying, well, yeah, we should lift those. 0.94

00:14:04.820 But China is selling their EVs to us at half the price of the cost of production.

00:14:10.560 Why?

00:14:11.180 They want to undermine the auto industry.

00:14:13.040 They want to undermine the steel industry.

00:14:14.520 They want to undermine the aluminum industry.

00:14:17.060 And there's no guarantee that if we lift these, it's going to lift the tariffs on canola.

00:14:21.680 Every time they have a trade dispute or any dispute with us, they tariff or block canola.

00:14:26.800 They block canola exports from 2020 to 2022.

00:14:30.460 No canola exports to China.

00:14:34.320 Those are bad trading partners.

00:14:36.500 We shouldn't rely on that.

00:14:38.000 And by the way, it is a small portion of the overall canola industry, which is massive and is important and we need to take care of.

00:14:46.480 But saying we're going to throw away our auto industry to save $5 billion worth of exports of canola to China doesn't make sense.

00:14:55.560 These guys need to get their heads on straight.

00:14:58.380 I think Mark Carney's a smart guy.

00:15:00.240 I think Tim Hodgson's a smart guy.

00:15:01.820 There's a couple of other smart people in the Carney cabinet and the rest of them are economic illiterates who, you know, potentially could be destroying the country.

00:15:10.640 Well, they were the ones that were jumping up on tables yelling, oh, captain, my captain, at somebody who is economically illiterate.

00:15:16.500 And that is Justin Trudeau.

00:15:17.980 So we are in a totally different world here.

00:15:20.220 I think what you meant just to qualify, you meant not lifting the EV mandates, but I think you meant lifting the tariffs on Chinese battery power.

00:15:28.100 No, no, I understood what you meant.

00:15:29.700 I just wanted to, before people kill Brian in the comments, that's what he meant, okay?

00:15:33.820 He didn't say that he wants the government to force you what kind of car you can drive.

00:15:37.060 No, no, no, no.

00:15:37.780 The EV mandates have to go.

00:15:39.380 And in fact, there's another example of not reading the room.

00:15:44.280 They pause the EV mandates.

00:15:46.480 What the industry needs is certainty, not uncertainty, regardless of industry.

00:15:51.360 Again, oil, auto, steel, aluminum, whatever industry, you need certainty.

00:15:57.660 And if you're just going to say, well, we'll pause the EV mandates but not get rid of them, and we'll review them for 60 days, that's not certainty.

00:16:06.360 That does not help.

00:16:08.540 Mark Carney is smarter than this.

00:16:11.000 He needs to act like he is smarter than this.

00:16:14.100 To your point exactly, I wanted to put a bow on this element of it.

00:16:17.740 You described it so well with Bell laying, like, fiber cable.

00:16:22.100 You can picture that almost like a pipeline of data, okay, running through instead of a pipeline of natural gas or bitumen or something.

00:16:29.500 And this is so critical.

00:16:31.580 If you have a country that, imagine you are Mr. Moneybags and you're a big oil person or you're a big company, right, and you've got money to invest.

00:16:40.240 You've got stuff to sell.

00:16:41.700 You have things to transport and transmit.

00:16:43.880 It could be data.

00:16:44.680 It could be oil.

00:16:45.340 It could be manufacturing vehicles.

00:16:47.180 And you're looking around at where to put down your purse.

00:16:50.860 What neighborhood are you going to put your purse down in?

00:16:53.920 Are you going to put it on a park bench in Japan where it's a very high trust and everybody's helping each other out and everything is normal?

00:17:01.080 Or are you going to leave it on a subway somewhere where you know it's going to be gone?

00:17:05.980 Where do they want to be confident they're going to put their money?

00:17:09.060 And the example of Kinder Morgan getting that pipeline eventually slowly, throttlingly slaughtered and killed by the Trudeau government and walking away, and then the taxpayer walks in and spends $30 billion on the thing that was supposed to be private investment.

00:17:25.800 This is exactly the point you're making here, Brian.

00:17:29.080 How do they change that?

00:17:30.680 Can Kearney change that climate?

00:17:32.140 Well, look, we not only had to have the government buy Kinder Morgan and Trans Mountain, they had to, you know, trans or sorry, Keystone XL was was killed.

00:17:46.240 Yep.

00:17:46.360 You know, Trudeau guys did not fight overly hard against their good buddies, Joe Biden or Obama before that, to try and get it built.

00:17:55.100 They did not, you know, fight the Americans on that.

00:17:58.480 There were no elbows up.

00:18:00.420 They killed off Northern Gateway.

00:18:02.220 They made it regulatory and regulatorily impossible for Energy East to move forward.

00:18:09.280 So all of these things have happened.

00:18:10.960 None of that has changed.

00:18:12.040 You are still sitting in a regulatory environment where none of these companies can move forward.

00:18:17.440 So why would they?

00:18:19.900 You know, we need to be smarter about this.

00:18:23.580 And we are in a moment where the public is willing to accept a lot of these things that maybe a few years ago, a few more people would have said, no, no, I don't like that.

00:18:32.840 Let's, you know, keep the oil in the ground.

00:18:34.580 Now people are willing to say, let's let's move forward.

00:18:38.180 Let's let's build.

00:18:39.620 And, you know, just constantly getting in our own way seems to be Canada's biggest problem.

00:18:48.860 And I can go through example after example of that.

00:18:51.940 We get in our own way.

00:18:54.040 It, you know, get out of the way, allow business to thrive, allow the, you know.

00:18:59.760 In 2012, our GDP per capita was equal to the United States, meaning that the the average Canadian was making about the same as the average American.

00:19:10.660 You know what we're at now?

00:19:11.720 We're $30,000 per person behind.

00:19:15.740 That is that is insanity.

00:19:18.140 That means that you're buying power and my buying power and everyone in the audience, their buying power is lower.

00:19:24.260 We do not make the money that we we need to make.

00:19:27.740 As Premier Smith said to me on the weekend, if we had Keystone XL, if we had Energy East, if we had Northern Gateway, that would be adding more than $55 billion a year to government coffers that could pay for the NATO commitment.

00:19:40.460 It could pay for more schools.

00:19:41.600 It could pay for more hospitals on and on and on.

00:19:44.500 But we have decided to throttle ourselves and whether it is in mining or oil or forestry, we need to get out of our own way.

00:19:54.580 We have immense natural resources.

00:19:56.960 We have great industrial capabilities.

00:20:00.420 Allow companies to thrive and people will thrive and governments will be able to provide the services they want.

00:20:07.120 Or we can keep getting in our own way, not have the money for the services that we want and whine about how Donald Trump is hurting us.

00:20:14.220 No, Trudeau liberals have done more damage to us over the last 10 years than Donald Trump ever will.

00:20:20.840 And if we keep getting in our own way, we are just going to keep doing more damage to ourselves than Donald Trump will.

00:20:27.200 The Americans are letting their economy thrive.

00:20:29.640 We need to let ours thrive as well.

00:20:32.520 Excellent points.

00:20:33.340 Before I let you go quickly, I had to give you the opportunity to weigh in, and I actually don't know what you think about this.

00:20:39.080 So this is kind of fun.

00:20:40.080 Premier Doug Ford, now this is according to the Red Star, but it's in the Toronto Star.

00:20:46.560 And Premier Doug Ford, where you're sitting right now, there at Queen's Park in Toronto, the centre of everything,

00:20:52.200 apparently said something along the lines of, oh, well, if youth unemployment is super high and people can't get jobs, they just need to look harder.

00:21:00.780 Now, I'm paraphrasing, and again, there isn't a clip of this that I've seen yet.

00:21:03.980 And that did not strike me as the usual populist Ford brother sort of thing that I would have expected out of that Ford Nation crowd 10 years ago.

00:21:15.260 And I think the latest stat I saw, this was crazy.

00:21:18.700 They were for your World Fair.

00:21:20.980 What do you guys call it there?

00:21:21.900 The C&E?

00:21:22.680 The big fancy thing you guys do?

00:21:23.820 The C&E, yes.

00:21:24.700 It's not the World Fair.

00:21:26.020 They call it the P&E out in Vancouver.

00:21:28.400 So I think it's the C&E.

00:21:29.300 The Canadian National Exhibition is what it's called.

00:21:32.600 There you go.

00:21:33.180 World's Fair is from the 1800s, but it looks so pretty with the big glass house.

00:21:36.280 Anyway, apparently they had like 50,000 people apply to work there, which was just an astonishing amount.

00:21:43.460 And we've got now, we have the federal Conservatives.

00:21:45.920 Looks like they're going to fight hard on this temporary foreign worker thing, the notion that there's thousands of people flooding the entry-level job market.

00:21:54.120 I don't like calling it low-skill because people bust their butts in those jobs.

00:21:56.940 So what was your take on this?

00:21:58.920 If it's true, and that's what Ford said, okay, well, I'm trying to give him an out here.

00:22:04.680 Why would he say something like that?

00:22:06.780 It just, to me, it's pretty tone-deaf of him to say something like that, but I don't know how you feel about it.

00:22:12.080 I feel like Doug Ford's tone-deaf on this.

00:22:15.000 So I believe he was speaking at an event with the Toronto Region Board of Trade, Turbot, as we call it here in the city.

00:22:22.240 And let me read you the quote from my crosstown rival colleague, Rob Ferguson, from the Queen's Park Bureau of the Toronto Star.

00:22:31.760 He quoted Ford as saying,

00:22:33.880 Okay, it drives me nuts when I see young, healthy people, and they'll call me saying, I can't find a job.

00:22:40.840 I assure you, if you look hard enough, maybe be it in fast food or something, but you'll find a job.

00:22:50.040 Okay.

00:22:51.540 To a degree, I agree with that.

00:22:54.720 If you work hard and you hustle, you can find a job.

00:22:58.940 I've been working since the age of 14, and I've rarely been unemployed in my life, and some people don't look hard enough for a job.

00:23:08.880 But what is youth unemployment at in Ontario?

00:23:12.180 It's 14%, 15% in the 15 to 24-year-old category.

00:23:17.400 In Alberta, it's 17%.

00:23:19.460 It was 20%, but like Ontario, the unemployment rate dropped in Alberta and Ontario, not because there are more jobs, but because people stopped looking for work.

00:23:31.760 Correct.

00:23:31.840 Things are not good right now.

00:23:34.320 And the Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a problem.

00:23:37.600 It's not the biggest problem, by the way.

00:23:39.560 It's one of them, and it's an easy one to attack, but you've also got the International Mobility Program, which has more than a million people with work permits from out of the country coming into Canada.

00:23:50.500 You've got the student population, which is significantly higher than it was several years ago. 0.66

00:23:56.900 Yes, it's dropped from the stupid highs of maybe a year to 18 months ago, but it's still higher than it was. 0.58

00:24:04.220 And they have work permits. 0.85

00:24:06.760 You've got the 190,000 people that applied for asylum last year and were almost immediately given work permits.

00:24:14.100 You are bringing in a ton of people.

00:24:15.840 Then you've got the permanent residents that are coming in at almost 500,000.

00:24:20.680 And yes, of course they're allowed to work.

00:24:22.520 That's why they're coming into the country. 0.99

00:24:24.320 Yeah.

00:24:24.620 But we are adding, as Justin Trudeau said, in April of 2024, we are bringing people faster than we can absorb them.

00:24:32.140 And Justin Trudeau, in April of 2014 and in April of 2024, said that these programs help drive down wages and suppress employment for young people.

00:24:42.960 So, yeah, this has been a problem, and it needs to be fixed.

00:24:47.320 So, on the one hand, there's a bit of truth to what the premier says.

00:24:51.640 If you hustle, you can find a job.

00:24:53.380 But we've also got restaurant after restaurant, service job after service job, saying that they're looking to hire temporary foreign workers when you've got unemployment above 6%, 7%, 8%.

00:25:07.660 You know, until April of 2022, the federal regulation said that you could not get a labor market impact assessment to bring in a temporary foreign worker if the local unemployment rate was above 6%.

00:25:22.300 We have had national and regional unemployment well above 6% for the last 18 months, and they got rid of that.

00:25:30.240 They also increased it from 10% of your workforce up to 20%, and in some cases, you can have 30% of your workforce be temporary foreign workers.

00:25:41.100 Mark Carney was asked about this.

00:25:43.260 You know, Pierre Poliev says completely scrap the program.

00:25:45.760 That's probably not the right idea, but maybe put the guardrails back on.

00:25:49.740 Maybe do something.

00:25:52.380 But, you know, Carney just says, no, this is the number two issue.

00:25:55.700 Of course, it's the number two issue for employers.

00:25:58.080 They want low wages.

00:25:59.380 They don't want to have to pay more.

00:26:01.840 And, you know, look, as an employer, I can understand that.

00:26:05.780 But bringing in cheap indentured servants is not the way to fix the economy. 0.82

00:26:13.720 And so, yeah, something has to be done on this.

00:26:16.760 Doug Ford completely off base on this.

00:26:19.240 I think that you'll see him say some kind of apology.

00:26:23.420 But then again, maybe not.

00:26:25.040 He's still talking about punishing Diageo, the company that owns Crown Royal, and threatening to take all their products off the shelves because he has a political disagreement with them.

00:26:35.600 But does he know, like seriously, does he know it's made in Gimli, like big time?

00:26:39.620 Like it's made in Gimli, Manitoba.

00:26:41.160 It's made in Gimli, Manitoba and Valleyfield, Quebec.

00:26:43.420 And it was only in Canada.

00:26:46.600 It was only being bottled in Amherstburg.

00:26:49.420 So, like logistically, think about it.

00:26:52.100 You're making it in Quebec, just outside Montreal, and northwest of Winnipeg.

00:26:57.340 And then you're trucking it down to Amherstburg to bottle, to send to the U.S.

00:27:02.580 Logistically, that doesn't make sense.

00:27:04.140 This was not a Trump tariff thing, but he's all about Trump and the tariffs and fighting the orange bad man in Washington. 0.81

00:27:10.740 So, I don't quite get it.

00:27:14.620 But, you know, maybe he'll walk this back.

00:27:17.780 Maybe he won't.

00:27:18.780 But, you know, he's off the mark on this one.

00:27:22.300 Youth unemployment is at the highest level in decades.

00:27:25.660 And that is a real problem.

00:27:27.680 And an awful lot of it has to do with temporary foreign workers, international mobility program, opening up how many hours international students can work.

00:27:37.520 And, you know, I mentioned 190,000 asylum seekers.

00:27:42.020 You know that a decade ago we were only getting about 16,000 asylum seekers a year?

00:27:47.640 Now we're getting more than 10 times that?

00:27:50.180 And they're all getting work permits?

00:27:52.400 That's really going to mess up your entry-level job market, which is what people in the 15 to 24-year-old category are looking for.

00:28:02.520 You know, walk this one back, Premier.

00:28:05.140 Yeah, I just got to pass a note.

00:28:06.700 Apparently, the new youth unemployment rate in Ontario is 16.5%.

00:28:11.280 16.5%.

00:28:12.300 Okay, so it went on.

00:28:13.140 That's crazy.

00:28:13.860 I know.

00:28:14.440 These new stats come out all the time.

00:28:15.960 Brian, every time I open up a new door on stuff, like what you were just saying of, like, the per capita and all this, like, it's awful.

00:28:22.740 Like, every time I open up a new thing of, like, okay, you know, carbon tax is a problem, this EV mandate's a problem, and then you tell me something like the disparity with wages and earnings between Canada and the United States now.

00:28:34.980 So, outstanding work.

00:28:36.520 Thank you so much for your coverage on this.

00:28:38.060 Once again, folks, if you don't read his column, make sure you change that.

00:28:41.480 Head on over to the Toronto Sun.

00:28:43.340 Check that out.

00:28:44.360 And please listen to his podcast.

00:28:46.140 It's really funny.

00:28:47.160 He brings all sorts of players in from the political arena, and he gets you up to date on the next week's stories.

00:28:52.120 Brian, thank you so much for joining us.

00:28:53.600 Thank you.

00:28:56.100 Once again, that was Brian Lilly.

00:28:58.660 You're going to get shows and stories like this here on Juno News because we help bridge the gap between independent media and the normies over in mainstream media.

00:29:09.540 And Brian is one of those game changers, okay?

00:29:12.100 He can do both.

00:29:13.300 He goes back and forth.

00:29:14.500 And what's really important is that he reads all the headlines, and he reads these stories, and he keeps us up to date on all of this stuff.

00:29:20.820 What do you guys think?

00:29:21.840 What do you think is going to be the big issue going forward in Ottawa?

00:29:26.100 The circus is coming back to town, as they say.

00:29:29.200 The House of Commons is coming back into session next week.

00:29:32.040 What do you think the biggest issues should be?

00:29:35.080 Are you still fighting to afford basics?

00:29:37.600 Are you struggling with the idea of ever owning a home?

00:29:41.160 Are you worried about crime in your neighborhood?

00:29:43.860 Are you worried about the huge size of the government bureaucracy and the fact that there's just government everywhere?

00:29:50.060 Leave a comment underneath this show.

00:29:53.060 And remember, be sure to like and subscribe to this program and send it to your friends who need a good wake-up call.

00:30:00.140 So, thank you.

00:30:01.200 Thank you very much.

00:30:03.220 Thank you.

The Candice Malcolm Show - September 10, 2025

Carney sidelines pipelines + Doug Ford tells unemployed youth to “look harder”

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