The Candice Malcolm Show - April 25, 2025


Carney’s plan BACKFIRES, entire campaign goes down in FLAMES


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31 minutes

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157.81572

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5,046

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368

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Summary

Candace Malan is joined by Gwen Morgan to discuss the latest scandal surrounding Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney. The CBC reported that during a phone call last month between Donald Trump and Mark Carney, the Governor said that Trump respected Canada's sovereignty.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Mark Carney, Trudeau's money man, globalist, China's pal.
00:00:06.660 Weeks in, he jets to Beijing, scores a $250 million loan from their state bank.
00:00:15.520 11 MPs tied to Beijing.
00:00:19.100 Carney's crew says nothing, selling us out foreign cash.
00:00:25.080 Secret deals, Carney's Canada.
00:00:30.000 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:35.560 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:00:37.460 We are heading into the final weekend of the campaign and it is incredibly close.
00:00:42.680 Juno News' exclusive poll that came out earlier this week had it neck and neck, 39 for the Liberals, 39 for the Conservatives.
00:00:50.160 There's other hints and I'm optimistic because when I look at Juno News' neighbour poll, and I mentioned this,
00:00:55.660 but Abacus Data, one of the top pollsters in Canada, has also put out a neighbour poll.
00:00:59.940 They've sort of followed our lead, changed their methodology, put out a neighbour poll.
00:01:03.700 And theirs is even more optimistic for the Conservatives.
00:01:06.000 They have Pierre Polyev at 44% to Mark Carney's 40%.
00:01:11.020 So either way, this election is going to come down to a hair.
00:01:15.440 And I think that the stories going into the final weekend of the campaign really matter, which is why the news about Mark Carney is just so incredibly damning.
00:01:24.100 He has been caught in a very big, very public lie.
00:01:28.080 And even the legacy media are coming after him.
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00:01:40.840 OK, so to help me break down the news, talk about this scandal, talk about Mark Carney, talk about the lost liberal decade of productivity.
00:01:48.880 I'm very pleased today to be joined by one of Canada's most successful businessmen, Gwen Morgan.
00:01:54.140 Gwen is a retired petroleum engineer who was the founder of Encana and served as a CEO until 2005.
00:02:00.980 Gwen, thank you so much for joining us.
00:02:02.420 Good to be here.
00:02:04.540 It's especially good to hear that things are getting that close.
00:02:08.860 Honestly, I'm optimistic.
00:02:10.320 I don't trust the polls.
00:02:11.700 I think that the idea that Mark Carney was up by 15 points earlier in the campaign is absurd.
00:02:16.360 And I think that really the neighbor poll, to me, is the best poll out there.
00:02:20.960 I hope we're vindicated on Election Day.
00:02:23.160 I think that this type of polling has been effective in other countries in picking up on things that regular polls don't.
00:02:29.400 And so I think, again, this scandal, I'm going to walk us through it here, with Mark Carney, it kind of implodes their entire campaign.
00:02:37.980 The entire idea behind Mark Carney's success here is that we're told that his CV, his resume is so impressive, he's the one that can step in and manage a crisis, and that Donald Trump respects him, right?
00:02:48.840 And that was what the legacy media pushed.
00:02:50.560 That is what he himself said.
00:02:52.600 And so this is what happened.
00:02:54.200 CBC reported it on Thursday, April 24th, that during a phone call last month between Donald Trump and Mark Carney, basically at the time, Mark Carney said that Trump respected Canada's sovereignty, that the whole Governor Trudeau and 51st states was over.
00:03:11.420 He wasn't doing that anymore with Carney.
00:03:13.740 And he said we respected his sovereignty.
00:03:15.840 Well, the CBC reported yesterday that that's not true.
00:03:19.100 So this is what the CBC reported during a phone call between Donald Trump and Mark Carney.
00:03:23.080 The U.S. president did put the idea of making Canada the 51st state back on the table, sources told Radio Canada.
00:03:30.620 So first, let me just show you the clip of Mark Carney back in March dismissing the idea, saying that he had a good call with President Trump and that he respected his sovereignty,
00:03:41.460 implied that those kind of comments about the Governor and 51st state were not made anymore.
00:03:46.020 And so, again, telling the Canadian public that with him at the helm, with him as prime minister, that Trump was backing off and backing down.
00:03:53.500 And that's, again, why we needed Mark Carney.
00:03:54.900 So let's show this clip from back in March.
00:03:58.180 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.
00:04:02.880 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.
00:04:06.540 Rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle.
00:04:09.360 Feel the aero bubbles melt.
00:04:11.400 It's mind bubbling.
00:04:12.380 Give us a sense of the tone that Donald Trump struck with you on the call.
00:04:16.900 Did he call us the 51st state?
00:04:19.060 Did he call you the governor?
00:04:20.260 Or was he more respectful like he was in the Oval Office?
00:04:22.760 It was, as I say, it was a very, very, his words, very productive, mine, very constructive.
00:04:29.100 They mean the same thing.
00:04:30.380 It was very cordial.
00:04:31.860 You've said that you wouldn't sit down with Mr. Trump and talk to him unless he respects Canada's sovereignty.
00:04:36.380 Did you convey that to the president today?
00:04:38.860 And if so, what did he say?
00:04:40.420 The president respected Canada's sovereignty today, both in his private and public comments.
00:04:45.320 So he was asked point blank, did he use the language 51st state?
00:04:48.640 Carney didn't really, he kind of obscured the comment.
00:04:51.200 But then when he's asked about sovereignty, he said yes, both in public and in private.
00:04:55.280 It kind of frustrates me that the Canadian media just trust what Mark Carney says because he wasn't being honest there.
00:05:00.640 And it took a month for us to figure this out.
00:05:03.880 And during that month was, you know, the most important, most consequential month of the election campaign.
00:05:07.900 So, again, kind of shocking.
00:05:09.780 But I'm very glad that the CBC reported this, called them out.
00:05:12.900 So President Trump was seen, again, doubling down on this idea.
00:05:17.960 So speaking from the Oval Office on Wednesday, he continued and repeated the rhetoric that Canada as a state works,
00:05:24.420 again, saying that we should be absorbed and annexed into the United States.
00:05:28.500 Let's play that clip.
00:05:29.040 Again, we don't really want Canada to make cars for us, to put it bluntly.
00:05:34.460 We want to make our own cars.
00:05:36.340 And we're now equipped to do that.
00:05:38.700 They took a lot of our car business.
00:05:40.500 Mexico, too, took a lot of our car business.
00:05:42.620 We want to make the cars here.
00:05:43.940 I'm running this country.
00:05:45.080 I'm not running Canada.
00:05:47.020 And that's why I asked Trudeau, who I call Governor Trudeau, affectionately.
00:05:53.140 But I asked him, why are we spending $200 billion to support Canada, to subsidize Canada?
00:06:01.140 And he was unable to answer the question.
00:06:02.920 I mean, why are we doing that?
00:06:03.960 And I have to be honest.
00:06:07.940 As a state, it works great.
00:06:09.580 As a nation, considering the fact that most of the nation, you know, 95% of Canada, what they do is they buy from us.
00:06:18.340 And they sell to us.
00:06:19.900 They sell to us.
00:06:21.800 If we didn't buy their oil, if we didn't buy their oil, and we don't need their oil.
00:06:26.040 They have more oil than anyone.
00:06:27.700 But we don't need their oil.
00:06:28.760 We don't need their lumber.
00:06:29.600 We don't need their cars.
00:06:30.360 We don't need anything.
00:06:31.720 So I said, why are we doing this?
00:06:33.600 Why are we spending $200 billion?
00:06:35.520 It doesn't make sense.
00:06:36.460 If we needed something, that would be a different subject.
00:06:40.400 So I'm working well with Canada.
00:06:43.520 We're doing very well.
00:06:44.740 We're working on a deal.
00:06:46.900 We'll see what happens.
00:06:48.000 But, again, you know, why, representing this country, why are we spending $200 billion to support and subsidize another country?
00:07:00.460 Because if they didn't have us, and if we didn't spend that money, as Trudeau told me, they would cease to exist.
00:07:08.000 He said that to me.
00:07:09.040 They would cease to exist, which is true, certainly as a country.
00:07:12.400 So following that, following the CBC report, Mark Carney was asked about this, and the media really did not hold back.
00:07:21.800 You can tell when they feel betrayed that their man, Mark Carney, has misled them, has lied.
00:07:27.340 The entire narrative of the campaign is falling apart.
00:07:30.620 And watch Mark Carney squirm, just totally unable to give a straight answer and admit that he had lied.
00:07:38.140 Let's play that clip.
00:07:38.760 On March 28th, didn't President Trump bring up the idea of Canada becoming the 51st state during that call with you?
00:07:46.680 As I just said, the President brings this up all the time.
00:07:54.200 He brought it up yesterday.
00:07:55.200 He's brought it up before.
00:07:56.500 There's a difference between the conversation that was held between leaders of government, which was this conversation,
00:08:04.480 and a discussion that led directly to an agreement that, as sovereign countries, we would have negotiations about our partnership following the election on Monday.
00:08:21.460 Hi, Mr. Carney.
00:08:22.320 Mackenzie Gray with Global News.
00:08:23.380 I think you've ducked Ashley and Laurence's questions, so I'll just give you one opportunity again.
00:08:27.640 Yes or no, did Mr. Trump bring up the 51st state in his call with you?
00:08:31.380 I said that he did.
00:08:32.720 I said that he did, but the President, to be clear,
00:08:38.100 oui, il a soulevé.
00:08:40.140 It's a question de pays souverains.
00:08:42.320 Sorry, Mackenzie, I should be answering you in English.
00:08:46.820 Him raising something and then where the discussion is, he has these things in his mind.
00:08:52.880 It's not, this is not news.
00:08:54.640 He raises it all the time.
00:08:56.720 Okay?
00:08:56.860 But then the question is, what's going to be done with it?
00:08:59.380 And does he understand where we stand, more particularly where I stand?
00:09:03.880 He is under no illusions.
00:09:05.900 Never.
00:09:06.780 Absolutely not.
00:09:07.600 Never.
00:09:07.920 Move on.
00:09:08.660 It's two sovereign nations coming together, negotiating our partnership, our relationship.
00:09:13.660 And the question is, will there be a deal that's acceptable to Canada?
00:09:20.960 There's a lot that will never be on the table in those negotiations.
00:09:26.980 And I've been absolutely clear about that.
00:09:30.120 So really not able to give a straight answer.
00:09:32.940 You can see that trick that he did where he switches to speaking in French.
00:09:35.980 He was in Coquitlam, British Columbia, right?
00:09:38.240 There's no reason to start speaking French in the middle of a press conference other than just to duck the question so that you don't have to give the answer.
00:09:43.960 And he said, yeah, I said that Trump said the 51st state thing.
00:09:48.660 He said, yes, I already said that.
00:09:50.160 No, he didn't.
00:09:50.820 That was the first time he ever admitted it.
00:09:52.460 And when he was asked point blank back in March, he denied it.
00:09:55.420 So, Gwen, what do you make of this scandal?
00:09:58.600 Do you think it will be consequential in determining the winner of the election?
00:10:04.360 Well, it certainly is a major revelation, but it's hard to know how much difference it makes because the public has to get the point.
00:10:13.960 You know, and he's sort of obscuring.
00:10:17.380 He was obscured.
00:10:20.160 What's that word?
00:10:21.740 Offuscating?
00:10:22.780 Obscuring it?
00:10:23.600 Yeah.
00:10:25.180 And so it wasn't very clear, but it depends on what they do with it, what the media does with it, I think.
00:10:31.420 And it's interesting that Radio Canada is the one part of the CBC that Poliev wants to keep.
00:10:49.540 So maybe they're doing a good job on that.
00:10:53.120 Interesting, isn't it?
00:10:53.940 Yeah, I noticed that.
00:10:54.980 And one thing, this is kind of a tangent, but during the French debate, Poliev explained why he wanted to continue to support Radio Canada.
00:11:03.680 Radio Canada is a French version of CBC.
00:11:05.660 So he's saying defund the English CBC and keep the French CBC.
00:11:08.440 And he was saying because when he was growing up in Calgary and he was a French speaker, he was only able to get his news from Radio Canada, therefore meaning we should keep it.
00:11:18.680 But in my mind, I'm like, you know, that was the 70s and the 80s, man.
00:11:22.640 Like, so much has changed.
00:11:24.000 You're saying that there's no French podcast, so there's no independent French journalists out there that you still need the government.
00:11:29.340 Anyway, I'll save my criticisms of Poliev for another time.
00:11:32.940 I want to go to what Poliev is saying about this.
00:11:34.980 Here is what he wrote on X.
00:11:36.380 He said Mark Carney lied about his call with Trump in a desperate attempt to distract from the lost liberal decade of rising costs and crime and to trick Canadians into giving liberals a fourth term.
00:11:49.740 Carney's entire campaign is built on lies.
00:11:52.140 If he lies about this, he would lie about inflation, taxes, crime and everything else.
00:11:56.900 A little hyperbolic, but I actually agree with this idea.
00:12:00.140 The entire campaign was built on a lie.
00:12:02.740 The entire thing that the media were trying to tell us about Mark Carney is that he showed up with Trump.
00:12:09.560 Trump immediately respected him.
00:12:11.320 No more of the governor stuff.
00:12:12.800 No more of the 51st state stuff.
00:12:14.420 And that is why Canadians, many of them, again, if you believe the polls or just the momentum, that Mark Carney was the person for the job because of that lie.
00:12:24.480 And for it to come apart on the eve of the election, I think it will have an impact.
00:12:29.340 I want to go to this.
00:12:31.220 Stephen Taylor, who is a conservative, I think he's an operative for the party.
00:12:36.520 He wrote this on X.
00:12:38.080 He said, there's a very good chance the liberals leaked that Carney lied about the Trump call.
00:12:42.780 It's easy bait to resurrect the main theme of the liberal campaign.
00:12:48.000 Boy, you know, these liberals, if you believe something like this, it's like they're trying to play 3D chess over there.
00:12:54.200 But their dirty tricks keep failing, right?
00:12:56.480 The whole idea of button gate, the dirty tricks.
00:12:59.000 They were planting Trump buttons at the Canada Strong and Free conference just to get exposed and humiliated over that.
00:13:07.240 And then if they were lying about this, I get why they want Trump back in the news cycle.
00:13:11.720 But if they planted that, they really didn't do their guy any favors because you saw him squirming out there, unable to answer those questions in Coquitlam.
00:13:19.780 So if a liberal operative did that, maybe this is a firing offense.
00:13:24.140 Mark Carney didn't fire the staff over button gate, but I think maybe he should fire whoever leaked this to the media.
00:13:29.400 I don't agree with that analysis, by the way.
00:13:31.480 I don't think that they leaked this.
00:13:33.160 I think that this is just, frankly, some solid journalism from Radio Canada.
00:13:39.540 And the fact that they couldn't help but putting this out, it was so important for the public to know about this going into the election.
00:13:46.320 What do you make of all this win?
00:13:47.420 Well, you know, I think Mark Carney has been, I guess, lying, or at least using a language that is not clear for a long time.
00:13:59.720 I mean, he, this is a guy who was, according to the latest world economic data, has denied the fact that Canada's GDP per capita,
00:14:14.540 which is the same as standard of living, has been collapsing.
00:14:17.920 And that this is, and yet he doesn't understand that we're heading towards having a GDP per capita of half of the U.S.
00:14:30.660 because, Connie, you know, what's happening in the U.S. is that Trump is actually increasing the GDP per capita,
00:14:40.760 and what's happening in Canada is we're decreasing it.
00:14:43.860 And so we're heading towards having 50% of the U.S. per capita GDP.
00:14:50.600 And, you know, he's not going to talk about that.
00:14:53.300 Well, he should.
00:14:55.760 And I think that that is, one of the interesting things is that because of the media and the way that they push this story with Trump,
00:15:02.920 and again, Carney coming in to save them, they've made it so that the ballot box question is about something external,
00:15:08.040 an external threat being Donald Trump, when really what Canadians deserve is for an election based on the governance of Canada,
00:15:15.660 the standard of living, like you've said, the lost economic decade.
00:15:19.600 You had a wonderful piece in C2C Journal, Appetite for Destruction,
00:15:24.060 how a decade of liberal rule cratered Canada's economy.
00:15:28.680 And this should be the ballot box question.
00:15:31.400 This is what the entire election should be about.
00:15:33.880 And yet we're kind of falling for these distractions about Trump.
00:15:37.820 I'm glad that the Carney lie came out because it can put that idea to bed that,
00:15:41.780 no, Carney is not some magic Trump whisperer that can somehow appease Donald Trump.
00:15:46.760 That's just not the case.
00:15:47.840 And let's talk about the real issues of the election.
00:15:50.960 So, Gwen, I want to ask you to sort of walk us through your essay that you wrote about how liberal rule cratered Canada's economy.
00:15:59.800 OK, well, let me put my reading glasses on because I want to just keep referring to my piece here.
00:16:07.020 Sure.
00:16:07.660 As I talked about GDP per capita, which is a fundamental point.
00:16:11.080 Most Canadians don't quite understand how important it is, but it really means basically standard of living.
00:16:17.900 And it's been collapsing.
00:16:19.700 And, you know, we have a country that should be the envy of the world.
00:16:24.860 I mean, we have all the resources.
00:16:26.500 We've got rivers, oil and gas reserves.
00:16:29.280 We've got mineral wealth from the Canadian Shield.
00:16:32.160 We are probably the most blessed country in terms of overall resources.
00:16:37.060 And yet, look where we're going.
00:16:38.360 We're going towards a standard living that keeps on collapsing.
00:16:41.640 There's several reasons for that.
00:16:45.780 You know, a lot of it relates back to the Trudeau government's green fanaticism, which actually is even more strong, I think, in the mind of Carney.
00:16:57.100 He was one of the founders of the Gantz International Agreement on Emissions that he's been trying to back away from.
00:17:10.560 But it really is basically going to wipe out the economy of the country if it went forward that way.
00:17:18.740 You know, the carbon tax is a very interesting thing because we know that what it's done for the motor fuels and for the cost of moving around by Canadians.
00:17:37.020 But what is not clear to a lot of people is that at the same time, we were putting huge EV subsidies in place, and the accommodation of that has done a lot of economic damage.
00:17:51.340 You know, what Carney wants to do is move the carbon tax away from where the people see it, which is at the pump, back to producers, which are the people that produce the economy and support the economy of the country.
00:18:17.940 He's not going to take it away.
00:18:19.220 He's going to put it upstream and try to hide it.
00:18:23.620 And that's another thing that says something about the guy, you know, about his whole approach things.
00:18:29.300 But actually, when you look at the farmers and all the people upstream producing goods and services and putting it on their back, not taking it down, just putting it on their back is a subterfuge.
00:18:46.380 It's another one of his way of doing things.
00:18:49.920 You know, there's this whole thing about the New World Pipelines Act that the federal government put in place.
00:19:00.400 Bill C-69, yeah.
00:19:01.540 It was introduced by Stephen Gilbert, the former Greenpeace activist who once climbed to the top of CN's tower in front of a banner that said,
00:19:18.640 Canada and Bush climate clinic killers, and this is the guy who we're relying on for the liberal economic and climate policies.
00:19:33.520 One of the things that's also a measure of how a country does is what the business investment per worker is.
00:19:43.460 It's a key driver of income and living standards.
00:19:48.760 And the Fraser Institute published a note that said that in 2023, it said that our business investment per worker had declined from $18,000 in 2014.
00:20:02.680 In 2014, they're just a little less, over $14,000 in 2023, and it's heading downwards.
00:20:13.200 And that's a gap between Canada and the U.S. of 82% in investment per worker.
00:20:19.400 All of this stuff, you know, is not readily understood by the average Canadian, I don't think.
00:20:26.900 But really, all it means is that the country is continuing to go downward and push its self-downwards through these kinds of policies.
00:20:36.020 And then there's, of course, our DEI policies that compel businesses to hire people that aren't fully qualified,
00:20:45.460 or at least not the best qualified for the work they do.
00:20:49.860 And that's a devastating thing for business.
00:20:53.780 Well, and it's also deeply unfair.
00:20:56.340 I mean, journalist Jonathan Kaye, he's done a great job highlighting these things on X,
00:21:01.280 where he'll post a job posting for, say, like the University of British Columbia,
00:21:04.700 and he'll highlight, like, everything in blue is the actual qualifications you need for the job,
00:21:09.520 and then everything in pink are the identity qualifications that you need.
00:21:13.920 And you can see it's, like, 90% based on identity and 10% based on qualifications, which is absurd.
00:21:20.840 But it's also deeply discouraging for young men, young white women and men,
00:21:28.280 who basically, unless you adhere to the complete ideology and, you know, play up your ideology,
00:21:35.140 or try to invent some kind of new identity, you basically don't have a chance.
00:21:40.720 I was talking to a friend of mine who's a retired doctor, and he was talking about how he basically
00:21:47.600 doesn't believe that white males can get accepted into medical school anymore.
00:21:51.360 He's mentored young men that have perfect GPAs, outstanding resumes in terms of volunteer work,
00:21:58.080 and just showing capacity in every area of life who get rejected from every single law school,
00:22:04.780 every single medical school in the country.
00:22:06.660 And it's like, what kind of future can you have in a country that bases who they hire on the color of your skin?
00:22:14.580 It's so terrible, Gwen, for our country.
00:22:18.340 Sorry, I interrupted you. You can continue.
00:22:19.760 And adding to that, Candice, we have a health care crisis.
00:22:24.960 Part of the crisis, we have a lack of doctors.
00:22:28.080 It's a huge, huge shortfall.
00:22:29.480 And there's thousands of dollars, thousands of doctors who want to come to Canada.
00:22:37.360 And they're well-trained, they're top people, but they tend to be, you know, among them.
00:22:44.460 Not many of them are members of what we call the minorities.
00:22:48.580 And so they're barred from coming.
00:22:50.220 So at the same time as we have a health care crisis, we're stopping people who want to come to this country to help.
00:22:57.960 You know, every way you look at this, it's so devastating, not only for the economy,
00:23:04.240 but for individuals trying to get treatment for medical system, medical care.
00:23:08.960 So one of the other things, of course, is the difference between Canada and the U.S.
00:23:16.080 that drives those big differences in economic performance is unionization.
00:23:22.640 Canada has three times the unionization rate of the U.S.
00:23:28.240 And it shows up in person days lost due to strike.
00:23:35.860 In one year, from those two years, from 2022 to 2023, or 24, I should say,
00:23:48.940 we had so many strikes in this country that just dropped two billion a day in shipments on railways.
00:23:56.520 And the Canada post-strike hit before Christmas with people.
00:24:01.900 We have our ports, which move billions of dollars a day, really, a month, I should say, of shutting down.
00:24:12.120 All of that happening in a country that's already having economic problems,
00:24:17.540 whereas in the U.S., they just don't allow that.
00:24:22.780 So there's so many different things.
00:24:24.700 I mean, the national debt, of course, we know has skyrocketed.
00:24:27.900 Nine years of liberal rule has not only crippled the economy, but it's taken the national debt from $626 billion, $1.34 trillion.
00:24:39.780 And looking at Carney's agenda, it's going to go a lot higher.
00:24:44.320 Well, I want to jump in and say that this is something that sort of flew under the radar.
00:24:50.140 But earlier in the campaign on April 5th, Mark Carney was in Oakville, and he said that he wants to build a new economy.
00:24:58.660 To me, this is just more of the same, the sort of woke utopian thinking,
00:25:04.360 that we can just erase everything that we built over the years and start again, start fresh,
00:25:10.220 build something totally new, move away from natural resources and go towards this green utopia that never seems to work in real life.
00:25:19.040 I think we have this clip. Let's play this clip.
00:25:21.180 Above all, we will build a new Canadian economy.
00:25:25.980 Our task as a nation over the coming weeks and months and years is to think bigger and to act bigger, to build Canada strong.
00:25:41.560 That starts right here.
00:25:44.720 That starts by investing in our workers.
00:25:49.060 Ironically, because as you pointed out, the Americans are investing so much more per worker than Canada.
00:25:53.800 But this idea, whenever I hear someone talk like this, it just puts me on edge.
00:25:58.920 No, you cannot build a new economy.
00:26:00.660 Canada has an economy just fine.
00:26:02.120 You have to invest in it and help it grow or, frankly, get out of the way so that it can grow.
00:26:07.780 I think that's more the Pierre Polly of approach.
00:26:09.780 Take away all these costly regulations and reduce these taxes and not bring in new spending,
00:26:14.980 not increase the size of an already bloated bureaucracy.
00:26:18.620 Whereas the liberals and especially Mark Carney,
00:26:21.080 they very much feel because they're experts that they can create something new.
00:26:26.340 And, you know, it's never worked in the past.
00:26:28.760 I don't know why we will believe that it could work again now.
00:26:31.940 What do you think?
00:26:33.520 Well, here's a guy, you know, that wrote a book called Values,
00:26:38.480 Building Better World for All in 2021.
00:26:41.020 One of the things the book talks about is that the free market economy doesn't work.
00:26:50.080 It can't work.
00:26:53.160 The governments have to manage the economy.
00:26:56.740 Like, this is about the most left-wing discussion you could possibly have,
00:27:03.600 and that's his philosophy.
00:27:05.740 So he doesn't believe in the private sector.
00:27:09.000 He believes that governments have to take control.
00:27:13.020 And when he's talking about what he's going to do with the Canadian economy,
00:27:15.820 that's what he's talking about.
00:27:17.120 He doesn't believe in free enterprise.
00:27:19.060 It's really unbelievable to say that, of a prime minister.
00:27:23.780 And yet he's openly speaking about it and admitting it.
00:27:27.920 Quite, quite shocking.
00:27:29.740 Well, I'm very pleased that this news came out that Mark Carney had lied,
00:27:33.140 because I hope it gets through to some of those folks in the elbows-up crowd
00:27:36.720 to say, you know, this man's not your saviour.
00:27:39.340 Despite what the CBC has told you in the past,
00:27:42.000 he hasn't done what they say he's going to do.
00:27:44.540 I want to end this show on a positive note.
00:27:47.420 The Toronto Maple Leafs, I'm not a Maple Leafs,
00:27:49.060 fan, but I will say my husband's a huge fan.
00:27:50.780 So he was very happy last night.
00:27:51.920 They scored in overtime and won.
00:27:53.960 And I guess on the way home from the hockey game,
00:27:57.460 a bunch of Leafs fans, their chant goes from, you know,
00:28:02.160 go Leafs go, to all of a sudden, we want Paul Yev, we want Paul Yev.
00:28:05.920 So I think it's exciting to see, first of all, the excitement.
00:28:10.100 Also, the young crowd.
00:28:11.600 I really think that this election will be determined by young voters,
00:28:15.800 people under the age of 35.
00:28:17.220 This might be, you know, the best opportunity for them to get a shot in this country.
00:28:22.940 And so to see these young men, you know, having a great time and cheering on Pierre Paul Yev,
00:28:28.340 I think that that's exactly the kind of message that we want going into the weekend.
00:28:31.900 So let's play that clip.
00:28:33.760 We want Paul Yev!
00:28:35.660 We want Paul Yev!
00:28:37.260 So, yeah, what do you think of that, Gwen?
00:28:42.400 Oh, that's so heartwarming, you know.
00:28:44.240 And I think that maybe we're finding it's funny getting through to Canadians,
00:28:50.120 and especially young Canadians who are already very much supportive.
00:28:55.480 But it's us baby boomers and so on that are not in the wrong place a lot of the time.
00:29:00.980 But it's a great trend, and Pierre Paul Yev and his wife Anita are wonderful people.
00:29:06.200 I mean, here's an orphan that was handed over to his grandmother or whatever, to a stepmother.
00:29:12.920 And she just came from Venezuela and fought her way up to become, to get educated.
00:29:19.800 And both, they're such a, the furthest thing from being the elitist, the carni is.
00:29:27.020 It couldn't be further.
00:29:29.080 And they're real people.
00:29:30.840 Exactly.
00:29:31.500 Very modest beginnings, both of them.
00:29:33.440 And it's so heartwarming to hear their story.
00:29:35.740 And I'm glad they're breaking through with young Canadians.
00:29:38.620 I know the baby boomers watching this show are the good kind.
00:29:41.880 You're the ones that are going to help us save the country.
00:29:44.120 But I do think it's a good sign that young people are actually voting for a responsible, conservative government,
00:29:52.020 or at least leaning that way.
00:29:53.220 All right, Gwen, I really appreciate your time.
00:29:54.960 Thank you so much for joining us.
00:29:56.120 That's Gwen Morgan, retired businessman and philanthropist.
00:29:59.480 Well, folks, we'll be back on Monday with our election broadcast.
00:30:03.500 I'm very excited.
00:30:04.340 We're going to be live streaming all night long.
00:30:07.480 We've got some great features that we're going to be introducing.
00:30:11.420 We have a decision desk that we'll be calling seats as they come in.
00:30:15.440 So you can fully watch Juno News without having to have an eye on the legacy media because we'll keep you fully informed.
00:30:21.440 We've got some great guests.
00:30:22.520 We've got great graphics.
00:30:23.460 Our team is working on all, you know, we're going to have a ticker at the bottom showing you what the seat count is.
00:30:28.960 And we really have a great program for you.
00:30:30.800 So we'll be back on Monday with that.
00:30:33.320 And again, this is going to be the most important election of our lives.
00:30:38.140 So please make sure that you make a plan to go vote on Monday.
00:30:41.960 We have to take our country back.
00:30:44.000 All right, folks, have a...
00:30:45.300 Sorry, go ahead, Gwen.
00:30:46.060 Fingers are crossed.
00:30:47.060 Fingers crossed.
00:30:47.940 Yeah, I think we're going to have a good night.
00:30:49.620 But we shall see.
00:30:50.780 Lots can happen on Election Day.
00:30:52.540 All right, folks, have a wonderful weekend.
00:30:54.340 We'll be back again on Monday.
00:30:55.440 I'm Candace Malcolm.
00:30:56.200 This is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:30:57.220 Thank you and God bless.
00:30:58.460 We'll be right back.
00:31:28.460 We'll be right back.