The Candice Malcolm Show - CBC ATTACKS the Conservatives for… wanting to protect election integrity？

00:00:00.000 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. We are back with Jasmine Lane and I wanted to get into a topic that we discussed on the show yesterday with Kian Bexie, but we have some more news to report on this one.

00:00:12.860 So we're talking about the seat in Quebec that is a tie. It is really unbelievable in a democracy that you would have something this close, especially when there's 32,000 and change voting for each party.

00:00:25.080 We're talking about the Liberals and the Bloc. And I want to just spend a bit more time talking about this seat and the sort of media discussion around it.

00:00:34.740 So we saw and we covered this yesterday that there was a recount in this writing of Terrebonne Quebec where on election night, I believe it said that the Liberals had won and then they did a recount and then it was the Bloc and then it switched back to the Liberals by one vote only for a woman to come forth from the Bloc Quebec law saying,

00:00:52.640 I voted for the Bloc, but my vote didn't count and I have it in my hand. It was mailed back to me because of an heir from Elections Canada.

00:00:59.960 So this woman was caught up with by someone from the station Nouveau Info and interviewed this woman.

00:01:07.460 Her name is Emmanuelle Beausse. And here she is. It's dubbed over because she's speaking in French, but dubbed into English explaining what happened.

00:01:15.980 So let's play that clip.

00:01:17.380 Emma, here is possibly the vote that could have made a difference in this election.

00:01:22.200 Maybe. Yes, because that's it. I voted for the Bloc and now it's down to one vote. So maybe it matters more than we think, that little envelope.

00:01:32.260 But why is this vote in your hands and not at the polling station?

00:01:36.400 That's a good question. There is a mistake in the postal code. So I think that's why it was redirected to me.

00:01:45.380 Because you were voting by mail. Did they give you that envelope at Elections Canada?

00:01:49.540 I didn't write the address here. It's really Elections Canada that provides this envelope like this with the little sticker.

00:01:55.520 I just had to write my return address here, fill out my vote, put it in the mail. The stamp is already paid.

00:02:01.360 So it is really unbelievable. I just want to read this from the CBC story because this just shows how remarkable this story is.

00:02:07.200 So on election night, Terrebonne initially went to Auguste by 35 votes. She's the Liberal challenger.

00:02:13.680 So it was a Bloc-held seat. The Liberal challenger won by 35 votes.

00:02:17.660 After the standard validation process, the result flipped to the incumbent Bloc Québécois MP by 44 votes.

00:02:24.540 So that was a flip of some 79 votes, which triggered an automatic judicial recount.

00:02:31.540 And then the judicial recount came back with the libs up by one vote, only again to find this one vote that this woman claims that she didn't get counted, not because of her own mistake, but because of something Elections Canada did. 0.92

00:02:44.000 And so to me, Jasmine, when I look at this, I just think that something is up. Something is a little fishy.

00:02:50.420 And I get that the Liberals are just salivating over this narrative.

00:02:53.460 Like they really, really want Conservatives to lean into like election denial, anything that's like tangentially related to Donald Trump and what happened in the U.S. in 2020.

00:03:01.840 They want it to happen, right? They're flanning the flames. They want the conspiracy theories.

00:03:05.400 They want Conservatives to come out and say, oh, my goodness, this is just not right.

00:03:09.600 Just so that they again, they did this during the campaign.

00:03:12.160 We had Sam Cooper on talking about how it was partially a Chinese election interference scheme where the Communist Party had to put this idea out to try to paint Canadian Conservatives as Trumpy.

00:03:24.600 And that was uncovered by CESAs. It was actually the Liberal government was warned about it.

00:03:28.300 And to me, it's like they're playing this up because they want conspiracies.

00:03:33.900 And the idea is that there is a problem here.

00:03:36.820 There is an issue with our election integrity when votes can swing that much.

00:03:40.920 We're going to get through a couple more of the details. But tell me your initial thoughts on the story.

00:03:45.360 Well, I first have to say something kind of irrelevant to this story.

00:03:48.320 But in terms of that memo from CSIS that has since been leaked, I do think it's awfully interesting that the Liberal Party was warned about that.

00:03:56.560 And I believe it was 2021. And then instead of saying, oh, this is a really big problem, they said, oh, that's actually a really good idea.

00:04:05.100 We should do that in our next election, too. And lo and behold.

00:04:09.220 But in terms of this writing, you know, I do think it's interesting that there's only one individual who has come forward saying, I got this sent back to me.

00:04:17.440 You can bet your bottom there's probably many more who just wouldn't make it public or perhaps wouldn't know.

00:04:24.020 And so, you know, obviously there's going to need to be a by-election there.

00:04:27.520 I think even just the probability of the difference being by one single vote is so incredibly rare.

00:04:33.600 One of the biggest things that's interesting, though, is that, you know, there were in that writing when they had done the recount, there were 74 ballots that were newly validated.

00:04:41.680 And 63 of those were originally rejected, which is where my biggest question comes in being, OK, well, so if they were rejected because of some sort of an error on it, somebody writing something else on the paper or whatever, why are they suddenly now counting?

00:05:00.640 And also there were 11 new ballots that came seemingly out of absolutely nowhere.

00:05:06.620 And it is quite frustrating that we have no response to that.

00:05:10.600 And I think just in general, you know, we saw a really big problem with spoiled ballots, rejected ballots this election.

00:05:17.240 And there are always quite a few. But, you know, in my polling station, as an example, there were no signs.

00:05:22.460 There was nobody telling me what would make a rejected or spoiled ballot.

00:05:25.720 I'm aware that they do have details on electionscanada.ca, but let's be real.

00:05:30.020 There's a lot of people who won't go and check that. Right.

00:05:32.800 So I think in general, there's people who will send a message, certainly, and that can affect the vote.

00:05:38.360 But there's also a lot of people who maybe just didn't know.

00:05:40.740 And I think Elections Canada, if you want to have this integrity based system that you want to brag about so much, you should probably be spending a lot more money ensuring that people actually understand how the system works,

00:05:51.840 understand what they're doing, whether or not they want to send a message and they're OK with that spoiled ballot.

00:05:57.680 And this case, you know, as a whole, in terms of all of the rejections, I think it does open up a very big discussion towards that.

00:06:05.380 And in terms of the integrity of this rioting, obviously, there's some very interesting things that are pretty hard to get out of your head once you start looking into them.

00:06:15.100 But at the end of the day, you know, with how much the government funds the bureaucracy in order to operate the government, you know, Elections Canada hired roughly 200,000 people to help with this election.

00:06:27.960 You would think with that many people, there would certainly be a lot more oversight to miss details like that, fix them.

00:06:35.800 Sorry. And so to me, this really comes down to this isn't so much about some big conspiracy theory as it is to absolute competence.

00:06:43.700 And I'm very curious how many more people we may or may not see coming forward with their returned ballot in the mail because something went wrong and it was just a massive error by Elections Canada.

00:06:55.300 Right. Well, I mean, to that point, right, the person that we saw in that clip, she's obviously a fairly sophisticated political person, right?

00:07:01.540 She understood what had happened. And as soon as the results came back tied, she said, well, wait a minute.

00:07:06.400 And she knew how to get her message out. To your point, there could have been dozens or hundreds of more people that had happened to, but they simply didn't understand.

00:07:13.220 Like maybe they thought, oh, OK, they counted my vote and then they mailed it back to me, I guess.

00:07:16.940 Yeah, totally.

00:07:17.200 Or like, or they just, oh, junk mail, throw it in the bin and never get to it.

00:07:21.960 You said that there's a couple of facts about this writing that once you get in your head, you can't get out.

00:07:25.820 I think this might be some of the things you're referring to. This was on X from an account called Election Watcher.

00:07:30.640 So he tracked what the changes were in the votes, because, like I said, there was the validation where it flipped and then there was the recount where it flipped again.

00:07:38.120 So this is the seats, the votes for each party and how they went.

00:07:42.860 So first for the validation, the Liberals gained zero.

00:07:47.060 The Bloc gained 79 votes at validation.

00:07:49.800 The Conservatives gained 18 votes.

00:07:51.980 The NDP zero, Green minus five, PBC minus 18.

00:07:55.540 And then next at the recount, this is kind of reversed, right?

00:08:00.740 The Libs got 56 more votes at recount.

00:08:03.620 The Bloc 11, the Conservatives five, the NDP four.

00:08:07.340 The Greens lost two at the recount.

00:08:09.080 Like what is going on?

00:08:10.460 How do you just gain and lose votes like this?

00:08:12.680 And then, yeah, 63 votes were rejected at the recount.

00:08:18.080 I would like to see a picture of all those ballots, please.

00:08:20.180 I would like to see a scanned picture of each one and an explanation as to why 63, when you have a seat, a writing that was decided by just one vote and 63 were rejected after the fact on the third round of voting.

00:08:35.060 Yeah, you're going to have to give me some more evidence from that.

00:08:38.100 Next, we have Marty up north asking what is going on in Quebec.

00:08:42.120 So let me just explain this graph to the audience here.

00:08:44.380 This is the percentage of rejected ballots by writing, and it goes across the country from west to east.

00:08:52.800 And so you can just imagine, you know, the provinces on the west, western side of the country, British Columbia, Alberta, and Manitoba, Saskatchewan over here, Ontario.

00:09:01.700 And then all of a sudden, this bit right here, that would be Quebec.

00:09:04.760 That would be Quebec.

00:09:05.560 And you can see how many more ballots were rejected.

00:09:09.760 So why are they rejecting way more ballots in Quebec than the rest of the country?

00:09:14.480 I mean, these are the kinds of things that really do, you know, I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but when you look at the data and the facts, and it just doesn't make sense, there has to be an explanation.

00:09:24.280 What do you think?

00:09:24.600 Well, I think at the end of the day as well, you know, Elections Canada, let's say that there are, let's say that there actually were that many rejected ballots.

00:09:34.080 You would think in a democracy of which you want to have transparency and openness to your people, that a situation like that, and this happens every election, this election is quite significant, though, in terms of the numbers of rejected ballots, the numbers of ridings being flipped.

00:09:52.920 I mean, typically, on average, I would say there's maybe one to two ridings that get flipped in recounts, because recounts happen.

00:10:00.320 And this election has been very interesting in that regard.

00:10:03.500 And of course, sure, it was a very tight race in some areas.

00:10:06.920 But you would think that Elections Canada would say to themselves, oof, for lack of better words, we have a lot of dumb people voting, like, you know, or we have a lot of people who really want to send a message, and they could actually be hurting the party that they want to be supporting.

00:10:21.740 You would think that there would be something of that, and they would say, okay, guys, clearly, you don't remember how to vote, because, you know, it's been since what I remember doing a little practice voting session when I was in grade six.

00:10:34.180 Like, you know, it's been a while, and we don't have elections very often.

00:10:37.880 So here, we're going to, on top of all of these other campaigns and ads that we're running, we are going to also include in there, this is what it looks like.

00:10:45.740 And I do think, as well, you know, when it comes to voting and you're a registered voter, I'm not totally opposed.

00:10:52.240 No, that's a lie.

00:10:53.040 I am, actually.

00:10:53.760 In theory, if we could do this without Elections Canada having your personal information, I would love it if there was a way where they could be like, here was your vote, it got rejected, and here's why.

00:11:04.460 And you get a little slip in the mail.

00:11:05.880 But, of course, I don't want them to have the information of everybody and what party they voted for.

00:11:10.020 But it'd be nice, in theory, to have something like that, because I do think that this comes down much more to something seems weird.

00:11:18.060 And if somebody has to explain to you why it's not weird and has to shame you because you think it's weird, that's probably because you might be in the right direction, I find.

00:11:27.260 And I'm not saying that there's anything conspiratorial about this.

00:11:31.240 At the very least, it's odd.

00:11:33.780 And it's completely right to question that.

00:11:36.740 It's completely right.

00:11:37.620 It's your democratic right to question that, to criticize the system.

00:11:42.260 And I wish that there was more focus on this and more focus from people who were a part of the committees that were going through ballots that were rejected, and suddenly now they counted, and suddenly now they're rejected.

00:11:56.900 We do need to have a lot more transparency and communication on that front.

00:12:00.320 But I highly doubt that's going to happen, because instead it ends up being another pawn in the liberal game where they can just shame everybody who wants to question something that's perfectly open to being questioned.

00:12:12.080 Because, as you've said, it's very odd.

00:12:15.100 Well, of course it is.

00:12:15.880 I mean, and we didn't even get to the fact that they found over 800 special ballots that were not counted out in British Columbia, Port Moody, because the guy forgot to mail them in or whatever the explanation was.

00:12:26.240 I mean, when there's this many data points and proof points that something wasn't right, yes, Canadians have every right to demand answers.

00:12:34.980 And let me remind you, because, I mean, this is a while ago now.

00:12:37.280 I had to explain this story to my producers because they were quite young and they weren't paying attention.

00:12:40.640 But back in 2011, when Stephen Harper won his majority, the legacy media promoted a years-long conspiracy theory that the election had been stolen and cheated away because of the so-called robocall scandal.

00:12:55.640 They imagined that there was a national campaign to call people up and tell them that their polling station had changed and that untold numbers of Canadians went to the wrong place and couldn't vote because of this.

00:13:07.220 The journalists promoted the story.

00:13:09.420 There were hundreds and hundreds of articles that were written accusing the Conservatives of stealing the election, election denial before Trump even did it, right?

00:13:18.660 And this was being peddled by the Ottawa Citizen and mainstream media journalists, including the CBC, who promoted this conspiracy over and over and over again to the point where they did a national inquiry into it.

00:13:30.520 And lo and behold, there was no evidence and no wrongdoing.

00:13:33.680 And it was closed.

00:13:35.000 It was not a national conspiracy.

00:13:36.280 So when the Conservatives win, the legacy media is more than happy to push the conspiracies and to accuse the Conservatives of stealing the election.

00:13:44.540 And yet here we are where there's just a whole bunch of really mysterious things that have happened.

00:13:49.520 And if anyone talks about it, they will point to you and call you an election denier.

00:13:54.120 I'm talking, of course, about the CBC.

00:13:55.380 So the CBC, Rice's hit piece, here it is, Conservatives' fundraising email suggests that the Liberals are trying to tip the scales in the recount.

00:14:03.400 So Elections Canada Act sets out when recounts happen and how they can proceed.

00:14:07.740 And they are very mad at the Conservative Party for sending an email to their followers saying that something is not right here.

00:14:14.700 So let me just read a bit from the story for you, Jasmine.

00:14:16.380 A Conservative Party fundraising email alleges the Liberals are trying to tip the scales in writing recounts, language political watchers say is concerning.

00:14:24.980 Some Canadians say they don't trust the results of last week's election.

00:14:28.500 The email sent to the Conservatives' mailing list on Wednesday solicits donations to help us hold the line.

00:14:33.840 As recounts play out, the Liberals are working to flip just enough seats to edge closer to majority.

00:14:38.900 We can't let that happen, reads the email.

00:14:41.080 If we don't act fast, we risk losing the gains we made on election night.

00:14:44.540 It concludes by saying the Liberals are fighting hard to tip the scales.

00:14:48.940 And then the CBC goes into total defense mode and just starts talking about how there's nothing to see here.

00:14:55.560 Everything's fine.

00:14:56.600 This is all according to protocol.

00:14:58.320 Nothing to see here.

00:14:59.120 And shame on the Conservatives for using basically Trumpy language.

00:15:03.700 Well, I'm sorry, but there is something amok here.

00:15:05.980 And if the Conservatives want to send this out to their list to try to fundraise so that they can have more scrutineers, right?

00:15:11.200 Like this is the other thing.

00:15:12.280 On election night, there's thousands of volunteers across the country that go and they're scrutineers and they watch the vote counts happen.

00:15:17.900 But then after that, they go back to their lives, right?

00:15:20.160 They go back to the real world and they don't have time to just volunteer for a political party.

00:15:23.820 And so when all of these recounts are happening, there isn't necessarily conservative volunteers in every single riding watching it.

00:15:30.660 So if the Conservatives want to say, hey, help us raise some money so that we can get people into these places, we can get lawyers to oversee it and whatever else, that's their prerogative.

00:15:38.140 And for the CBC to sort of jump in and say, you know, how dare these people fundraise off of this and it's spreading misinformation and all their favorite buzzwords.

00:15:48.260 I mean, again, we could talk about the CBC on every episode of The Candace Malcolm Show.

00:15:51.820 But this is just, again, the example of how the CBC just hates the Conservatives, hates everything they stand for, and will find any excuse to write a hit piece about them.

00:16:00.900 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.

00:16:05.380 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.

00:16:09.100 Rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle.

00:16:12.320 Feel the aero bubbles melt.

00:16:14.360 It's mind bubbling.

00:16:16.280 Yeah, it is.

00:16:18.640 It's again, you actually pointed it out so brilliantly there, where if you just flipped who we were talking about, the rhetoric would be so very different.

00:16:28.260 And it's incredibly frustrating.

00:16:30.780 And it's just it's so it's such a lie.

00:16:33.400 Like, that's kind of the only way that I can put it.

00:16:35.660 It's a lie with a purpose.

00:16:36.680 And that purpose, unfortunately, has worked.

00:16:40.100 And it's really disappointing when you have.

00:16:43.940 And also, too, you know, let's let's keep in mind in this case, you know, I could see perhaps some people who think that, you know,

00:16:51.040 the Conservatives sending out this message in order to try to get more fundraising is like kind of dangerous to do.

00:16:57.060 I mean, sure, maybe, but also what they're wanting more fundraising for is fair and it's democratic.

00:17:02.260 And, yes, you need fundraising in order to survive.

00:17:04.920 Right.

00:17:05.980 That's one of the big problems with the NDP right now and why they want to be party status again so bad.

00:17:10.380 So I just I just think it's very frustrating.

00:17:14.980 And also, you know, perhaps this is just a little bit of a nuance.

00:17:18.220 But in terms of the language there being that the liberals are trying to tip the scales, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're accusing the liberals of trying to to meddle in anything or manipulate anything.

00:17:30.220 That could very well mean that, you know, the liberals are running a campaign to make everybody feel against us and we don't like that.

00:17:37.360 Like, that's fair. Right.

00:17:38.700 Whereas I feel like CBC, the way that they discussed this and in the article as well, was very much more like they were trying to insinuate that the Conservatives were calling it a rigged election, which they didn't.

00:17:50.980 You know, to accuse somebody of trying to tip the scales, that could mean a large, a large number of different things.

00:17:57.000 And I would say as well, again, that there is a lot of there's a lot of weird stuff with this one that seems very odd.

00:18:04.780 And and it is our right as Canadians to hold officials and to hold our government accountable, because when we don't, like, gosh, who knows what could happen if we suddenly just stop doing that?

00:18:16.500 And so I think for me, when it comes to the CBC and the way that they the way that they omit certain details and highlight other details, I'm just very tired of what seems to just be this mass psychosis or this attempt at creating mass psychosis.

00:18:30.760 And to make people feel shamed and feel weird for having very normal thoughts when you go through the details.

00:18:36.820 There's nothing radical about thinking that it's just that's you're seeing things that are striking you and you're thinking about them.

00:18:44.600 And I think that that's a wonderful thing to do.

00:18:47.800 Well, and isn't the CBC curious?

00:18:49.960 Like, what happened to those 63 votes?

00:18:52.080 Why were they rejected at the recount?

00:18:53.960 I mean, why are they writing a story about race, Candace?

00:18:56.760 It's there. That's something a journalist would do.

00:18:59.880 Well, yeah, like they're totally not curious about that, but they do very much want to come after the Conservatives.

00:19:04.580 OK, so we got another email from the Conservative Party.

00:19:06.940 And this is this is amusing.

00:19:08.080 So they are fighting back and using the CBC story to fundraise even more.

00:19:11.220 Good for them. They say right now we're under attack by the media.

00:19:13.520 They write last week, we asked for your help to get our top political operatives on the ground to oversee vote recounts in key writings across the country.

00:19:20.700 Every party can have people on the ground to ensure the recounts are done right and to make sure the process is fair and transparent.

00:19:26.100 And let's be clear, we're not questioning the results, but we want the recounts to be fair and accurate.

00:19:32.680 But now the media is attacking us or twisting our words and trying to get us to back off simply for covering this.

00:19:40.200 The CBC was quick to put out this article accusing us of nefarious activities.

00:19:44.660 And then they show the same headline.

00:19:46.480 And basically, again, it says to chip in to help us.

00:19:49.640 We'll never back down.

00:19:50.960 OK, this is good. This is good.

00:19:52.460 But this is a part that is sort of like a pet peeve of mine.

00:19:54.440 It says, let's be clear, we're not questioning the results.

00:19:58.000 We just want the recounts to be fair and accurate.

00:20:00.120 For my point, you're like, why aren't you questioning the results?

00:20:02.360 Like the results are fishy.

00:20:03.780 There are some shenanigans going on there.

00:20:05.560 67. I mean, a normal recount wouldn't just swing 70 votes one way or another and then end up with the liberals winning by one vote.

00:20:13.680 I mean, we shouldn't accept the results of that writing.

00:20:17.260 We shouldn't.

00:20:17.980 And I think you're right.

00:20:19.080 We will probably end up going to a by-election because it will be challenged because you can't have this as a result that stands.

00:20:26.140 And to repeat the way I said on the show yesterday, I think the liberals are trying to steal a majority, right?

00:20:31.880 On election night, they lost the majority.

00:20:34.380 They have a minority government.

00:20:36.400 They had, I think on election night, it was like 168.

00:20:39.820 And now they're up to 170.

00:20:41.060 They only need 171 really plus a speaker to get a majority.

00:20:44.260 So they're almost there.

00:20:45.260 They just need to get like one or two people to cross the floor.

00:20:47.780 That is a stolen majority.

00:20:49.000 They didn't get the majority on election night.

00:20:50.700 And they're trying to get it by other means.

00:20:52.800 I think it's perfectly fine to point that out and to say it.

00:20:55.460 And the conservatives shouldn't back down and say, oh, no, don't worry.

00:20:57.780 We're not questioning the results.

00:20:58.740 We just want to make sure that everything's fair.

00:21:00.560 No, you have to fight.

00:21:01.720 You have to push.

00:21:02.400 And, you know, I like the idea that they're pointing this out and fundraising on it.

00:21:05.580 But I wish they would go even harder.

00:21:07.940 Yeah, I would agree with that as well.

00:21:09.680 And again, I think more than anything to to simply just be true to yourself and what you think.

00:21:16.700 It's something I've talked about this on my show plenty of times.

00:21:19.300 I did in yesterday's episode as well.

00:21:20.860 But, you know, one of the reasons why Donald Trump was so successful, why he was so good in his campaigning, despite everything, everything against him in that regard.

00:21:30.120 And you don't have to like Donald Trump in order to acknowledge this.

00:21:33.880 But the American people voted for him en masse in ways that nobody predicted that everybody was saying wouldn't happen.

00:21:40.740 And why is that?

00:21:41.740 Because Donald Trump didn't care.

00:21:44.080 He didn't care what the media was going to say.

00:21:46.380 He didn't care what his opponents were going to say.

00:21:48.720 He just said what was on his mind.

00:21:51.180 Sometimes a little too much.

00:21:52.680 But in general, he just said what was on his mind.

00:21:55.760 And I think that we need to get back to that.

00:21:57.740 And if there's any advice that I can give to the conservative party, and I have given this to many people who I'm aware of and friends with, or not necessarily friends, but acquaintances with who are involved, it's that conservatives really need to stop being on defense.

00:22:12.220 And we need to start playing offense again.

00:22:14.940 Let's stop letting everybody else create the narratives.

00:22:17.700 Let's create the narratives.

00:22:18.840 And let's be on offense.

00:22:21.000 We need to stop being.

00:22:23.080 I just like I can't stress that enough.

00:22:24.940 This whole defensive, oh, well, we're not saying this.

00:22:28.440 Who cares?

00:22:29.420 You don't even need to.

00:22:30.160 Like, they're going to take, you can put that in that article, and they're going to take something out of it anyway to criticize you on.

00:22:35.020 It doesn't even matter.

00:22:36.140 It doesn't matter what you say to defend yourself.

00:22:38.380 They're still running on things that are clearly false that they use to manipulate the masses to win in this election.

00:22:44.900 So you need to stop defending those things, and you need to start playing offensive.

00:22:48.720 That is my best advice to everybody, really, who is in this space. 0.78

00:22:53.320 And we're not in this space because we're evil, hateful people who are just crazy, fringe minority conspiracy theorists. 0.97

00:22:59.320 We're in this space because we live real lives, and we know the damage that has been caused.

00:23:05.720 And unfortunately, like people such as David Cochran or Rosemary Barton, whose salaries are upwards of $500,000 a year plus bonuses on your taxpayer dollar, we don't have the luxury of being able to witness our economy dwindling.

00:23:19.500 We don't have the luxury of being able to witness the division that has been so articulate, I'm going to use that word even though it doesn't make sense, but so articulately put in place by media, by the parties, while they go and accuse everybody else of doing exactly what it is that they're doing.

00:23:37.200 Like, we don't have the luxury to not care about the future of our country because we are actually just the average citizen.

00:23:44.900 We are people who have businesses.

00:23:46.840 We are entrepreneurs.

00:23:47.880 We are people who are struggling, you know, like that's why we land in this way, because we are so sick of being lied to and manipulated and taken advantage of.

00:23:56.620 And so we need to stop being defensive about how we feel.

00:24:01.380 And we need to just say what we think and not be afraid of the ripple effect.

00:24:06.440 And I think that that advice, as long as you do so kindly, of course, it's not nice to be mean to anybody.

00:24:10.680 But if you can manage to do that and be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove in the way that you do it, I really do think that there's a lot of hope still for the direction that this country goes in, despite everything else trying to be against you, as we clearly see with the CBC on a daily basis.

00:24:27.900 No, I 100 percent agree.

00:24:30.080 I don't think that we should be explaining.

00:24:32.280 I don't we don't have to.

00:24:33.040 We don't have to be on defense ever.

00:24:34.900 And I think that's so right.

00:24:36.580 You know, I'll just share a little personal tidbit.

00:24:38.700 I was on maternity leave.

00:24:40.040 I was basically a stay at home mom with my four little kids having a great time.

00:24:43.480 And I I was almost reluctant to get back into journalism.

00:24:47.320 And it wasn't until Justin Trudeau resigned that I just felt this like duty, basically, to come back in and start working again and start to see my podcast.

00:24:55.980 And when I was merging with the Counter Signal and we were launching Trudeau News, Kian Bexte asked me, he's like, you know, like, you have a pretty good life.

00:25:02.800 Like, you know, why are you doing this?

00:25:04.200 Why don't you just stay and be a stay at home mom with your kids? 1.00

00:25:07.520 And I really do feel like I have a duty.

00:25:09.340 Like, I have to.

00:25:10.380 Right.

00:25:10.540 It's your moral obligation.

00:25:11.740 I really feel that way all the time.

00:25:14.560 Yeah.

00:25:14.780 People people ask me, like, oh, well, why do you do this?

00:25:17.280 Because, you know, you're never going to get through to them.

00:25:19.240 And I'm like, I don't care if I ever get through to them.

00:25:21.100 It is my moral obligation to be true and to follow where my heart is guiding me and to take my time and do my research and make sure that I'm that I have a very high aim and I'm on the right track.

00:25:32.480 Or at least I'm trying to be better, you know, and I and I think that that's kind of how a lot of this works.

00:25:38.420 It's like if you if you don't if you sit back and you don't do anything about it, it's not going to be a prosperous future.

00:25:46.360 That's just, you know, we have 10 years to show the downward trend of this particular government and these particular ministers.

00:25:55.100 So, yeah, I totally agree with you.

00:25:57.240 It's true.

00:25:57.380 It's our country and it's our future.

00:25:59.320 And for me, it's my children's future as well.

00:26:01.340 And I do.

00:26:01.940 I have a duty to God and a duty to do the best that I can.

00:26:04.740 And I think that, you know, you're on a very similar path and trajectory.

00:26:09.380 Jasmine Lane, I always really appreciate having you on the show.

00:26:11.460 Thank you so much for your insight.

00:26:13.360 Thank you so much for having me.

00:26:15.960 This was a this was a good chat.

00:26:17.400 I like this.

00:26:17.840 We should do this again sometime.

00:26:19.220 Absolutely.

00:26:19.780 All right, folks, all the time we have for today.

00:26:21.600 Thank you so much for tuning in.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - May 15, 2025

CBC ATTACKS the Conservatives for… wanting to protect election integrity？

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