The Candice Malcolm Show - CBC has LOST CONTROL of the election – and the country (ft. Ezra Levant)

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00:00:30.000 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you

00:00:42.060 today. We are really in the final stretch of the campaign less than a week before what I think is

00:00:47.480 the most consequential election of my lifetime. And one of the most interesting developments of

00:00:52.700 this election so far has been to see the media, specifically the CBC, and their reaction. I

00:00:58.760 believe they're losing control of their hold over the country. For decades, they have been the

00:01:04.920 arbiters of truth, the self-appointed arbiters of what is news and what isn't. And basically from

00:01:11.420 that debate that happened last week onwards, I think they're starting to realize that they don't

00:01:17.080 have that grip anymore. They're losing control over the country, over their place as being the ones who

00:01:22.560 gets to determine what is news and what isn't. And they no longer get to shape the narrative of the

00:01:28.180 campaign. They've lost control of the narrative. And it is social media and influencers and content

00:01:35.160 creators and independent journalists who are stepping up and having a bigger and bigger influence.

00:01:40.520 I hope this will be the last election campaign that the CBC has any type of influence and control.

00:01:46.440 I hope that they get defunded after this campaign. And I really think that they're starting to realize

00:01:51.720 that they might not have a future in this country. And that is why they are behaving in such an

00:01:56.620 unhinged way. So to talk about this a little bit more in depth, I'm very pleased today to be joined by

00:02:01.920 one of my favorite people, one of my favorite people in the independent media space. And that

00:02:06.480 is Ezra Levant. He's a founder of The Rebel. He's sort of the godfather of this entire movement

00:02:10.960 of independent online media. Ezra, thank you so much for joining the show. It's great to have you.

00:02:15.780 Wow. Thank you for this super friendly introduction. I'm normally referred to

00:02:19.420 like a pebble in someone's shoe. So this is a change of pace for me. Thank you.

00:02:24.120 Well, okay. So it's been a week now since those debates. And I just think they were so

00:02:28.900 consequential. And I think that, look, Pierre Polyev did a great job. Mark Carney did a terrible job.

00:02:34.120 I think that Mark Carney lost the election on Wednesday night at the French debate,

00:02:38.760 or if not Wednesday night, then Thursday night. His flat responses, his tone deafness,

00:02:44.040 even just that question that he asked to Pierre Polyev, asking him why he doesn't have a security

00:02:49.820 clearance and giving Polyev the stage to debunk the entire conspiracy theory behind it. I think that

00:02:55.500 he could have been heading towards a government, majority government. And I don't know if he's lost

00:03:00.660 the entire election, but I don't think that he's going to get a majority government. The polls are

00:03:04.060 starting to reflect that. So I want to get your reaction to the debates themselves. But I think

00:03:09.220 something more interesting or equally as interesting happened in the debates. And that is really

00:03:15.360 watching the CBC and all of the media realize that they don't have control anymore, that the

00:03:22.040 independent press is here to stay. We do have influence over the country. We represent millions,

00:03:29.100 dare I say tens of millions of Canadians are more interested in the questions that we're asking and

00:03:34.360 the way that we present the news than the old guard. They're starting to realize that.

00:03:38.340 So what are your reflections on both those issues, Ezra?

00:03:41.920 I think the debates were good. I think they were illuminating. And I think it was the first time

00:03:47.500 Canadians had seen Mark Carney, really. And I think he underperformed a bit. That said,

00:03:52.940 I don't think there was any particular disasters for him. So I don't think it was quite,

00:03:56.240 I would say it wasn't quite as bad as how you've described it. But you're right, the Mark Carney

00:04:01.900 balloon has started to deflate a bit. And perhaps over the next few days, if that trend continues,

00:04:07.060 it's a possibility you might have a conservative minority. Right now, I still think it's a

00:04:11.880 liberal minority. But you're right, to me...

00:04:14.540 Some say the bubbles in an arrow truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.

00:04:20.320 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.

00:04:23.960 Rich, creamy, chocolatey arrow truffle. Feel the arrow bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling.

00:04:29.840 Much more interesting was what was happening behind the scenes at the debates. As you know,

00:04:36.180 in 2019, both True North and Rebel News were banned. We both went to court and it was an amazing

00:04:44.200 ruling by the federal court that it was unconstitutional. It violated our charter rights

00:04:49.700 for the government agency called the Debates Commission to keep us out. See, Justin Trudeau

00:04:54.520 nationalized the debates. He turned them into a government agency so he could control them. He

00:04:59.140 even put one of the Kielburgers on the board. It was really weird. But by making a national 0.96

00:05:03.780 government agency, he made it subject to the Charter of Rights. They tried again to keep us out in 2021.

00:05:10.480 Again, we went to court and again, the court ordered them to accredit us. Actually, back then,

00:05:15.420 the court ordered them to accredit 11 different rebel journalists. So here we are in 2025 and we reached

00:05:21.740 out in advance to the Debates Commission and basically said, do you want to do this again

00:05:26.420 or do you want to grow up a bit? So they accredited five rebel news journalists. And I know that Juneau

00:05:32.200 had a team there. I was really pleased to see your team there. They were, first of all, it felt great

00:05:37.240 to have friends and allies. And not just you guys, but Western Standard was there. There were other

00:05:42.860 reporters. I don't want to try and list them all. But it felt like there was a growing cohort, whereas it

00:05:47.320 was quite lonely five years ago. Now there's a growing group of, you know, I don't even know

00:05:52.240 everybody, which is a pleasure when you don't, when the movement grows so much that you don't know

00:05:55.680 everyone. And here's the interesting thing. You guys had some really good questions that I would

00:06:02.480 say were a little bit edgy, which is, I think, what a journalist should be towards a politician.

00:06:06.680 The politicians didn't mind. Mark Carney answered you guys, your questions. I thought he actually

00:06:11.980 answered them fairly well. He wasn't shocked by them. He didn't reject them. He answered them.

00:06:17.280 He's a grown-up. Like, he's not afraid to answer the questions. If he proposes to engage with Trump

00:06:24.380 and Putin, I think he can handle Juneau news. Same thing with rebel news. Like, Jagmeet Singh doesn't

00:06:30.480 talk to us any time. He's a bit of a powder that way. So no big deal. But the Bloc Quebecois leader

00:06:36.320 answered our questions. And Pierre Polly have answered our questions. Here's my point that I'm making,

00:06:40.960 Candace, all of the party leaders were fine with us being there. I did not hear a single

00:06:46.240 complaint from any of the parties that we were allowed in. The complaints came from rival journalists.

00:06:52.780 They came especially from the CBC, which basically launched a campaign to discredit and eject us.

00:07:00.160 There was one moment, I don't know if you know this, Candace, the CBC complained privately to the

00:07:04.620 commission and demanded that I be ejected because I had the temerity to ask a CBC journalist during a

00:07:10.560 commercial break if I would have a chance to rebut his cascade of lies against us. The CBC thought I

00:07:17.200 was so impertinent, they tried to get me kicked out. Like, they literally asked and demanded that

00:07:22.800 we be ejected. None of the politicians felt that way. One last thing. I don't know if you have this

00:07:28.520 clip, but Adrienne Arsenault, who's a very senior reporter for the CBC, she was talking about rebel news

00:07:33.460 and you guys in particular. And in particular, the question by Alex Zoltan, if I've got the name

00:07:39.380 correctly, who asked about how many genders there are. And that's not a trick question. That goes to

00:07:44.700 transgender policy. The UK Supreme Court just ruled that only biological men are men. This is a very live 1.00

00:07:51.540 issue in the United States. It's absolutely relevant in Canada.

00:07:54.780 Well, they asked Pia Palliev about it like two months ago. And there's no complaints after that

00:07:59.080 question was asked. Yeah. So you guys asked that question. It was well put. And by the way,

00:08:04.100 I think he answered it okay, Mark Carney. Well, he answered it. I mean, yeah, yeah. The rage from the

00:08:10.540 other, Adrienne Arsenault said, people might think, what country are we in? And she also said,

00:08:17.840 these debate, these questions did not conform to what was talked about in the debates. And I'm thinking,

00:08:23.920 you're giving it away. You're saying the quiet part out loud. Adrienne Arsenault, Rosemary Barton,

00:08:28.920 and David Cochran, the CBC triumvirate, had ruled that Rebel News and Juno News, our questions were

00:08:35.900 not the right ones. It was clearly a content disagreement. It was, I mean, and all the questions

00:08:42.060 we asked were asked very politely. So it's not like we were even disruptive. Hey, quick point on that.

00:08:47.420 We have a reporter named Drea Humphrey. And if I was a lefty, I would also say she's a woman of color 0.99

00:08:53.020 who is indigenous. In fact, she was the only black woman in the room, let me put it that way. 1.00

00:08:57.740 She asked a question about residential schools that was off the official narrative. She asked

00:09:02.940 Jagmeet Singh about that and about the wave of Christian churches being torched. And not only 0.80

00:09:10.520 did Jagmeet Singh ignore her, but here's the thing, Candace, and I don't know if this would have been

00:09:14.280 heard by people at home because I don't think it was picked up by the microphone. When Drea Humphrey,

00:09:18.300 a dignified black journalist asked this question of Jagmeet Singh, all these white liberal male

00:09:24.160 feminists in the press room started heckling her. I swear to God, they were trying to disrupt 1.00

00:09:30.220 her. They were trying to shout her down. You can't quite pick it up on the microphone. It 1.00

00:09:33.920 was shocking. Same thing when Alexa Lavoie asked her question en français. I have never seen,

00:09:40.340 it was demonic, the way they were hollering at her. And they say independent journalists are

00:09:46.540 the disruptors and chaotic. It's so clear that this is their little club and they hate the fact

00:09:52.440 that we're eating their lunch, but you are right, Candace, they are losing their grip and their

00:09:56.920 control. And I'm delighted to see it. Well, I want to pick up on a couple of points that you made there

00:10:02.420 because I could kind of hear a little bit of the heckling that was going on. And it did, it did make

00:10:07.060 me think that, you know, this isn't just about, you know, who gets to the line first to ask the

00:10:12.700 question because it really is, you know, it's open to everyone. And so the fact that they were very

00:10:16.660 upset that Juno News got two questions to Mark Carney, it's literally just because our guys got up

00:10:21.620 10 minutes before the debate ended and stood in line, right? That's it. That's all it took.

00:10:26.760 The fact that Rebel had four, well, the CBC also had four. You talked about the panel and I do want

00:10:33.860 to show it because I don't have the bit where Adrian Arsenal is saying that she had to check if she was

00:10:38.500 still in Canada. I played it on the show last week. I think that parts of creative music. But I want to

00:10:42.400 show this bit of the three of them, Adrian Arsenal, Rosemary Barton, and David Cochran. And just the

00:10:49.480 way that they're talking about it, to me, this clip just perfectly illuminates the point that we're

00:10:54.200 trying to make here, which is that these people are losing their control over the country. So let's

00:10:58.360 play that clip, please. Just watching it, having watched the debate, David, you know, it's the debate

00:11:04.540 was one type of conversation. This feels very different. I think the debate commission is going

00:11:11.040 to need to be accountable for what's kind of happening here. They moved the time of the debate

00:11:16.100 the day before. They kicked the greens out the morning of, and they've opened up the scrums and

00:11:21.100 the press access to a bunch of groups who sometimes are registered charities or have been defined by their

00:11:25.840 owner as not actually a journalistic organization or have been ruled by the federal court to not be a

00:11:31.060 journalistic organization. And there are substantive follow-ups on these things for

00:11:35.400 these leaders. They only get 10 minutes, and it's being monopolized by people who are asking on

00:11:42.620 issues that are not central to the campaign, and certainly were not central to this debate.

00:11:46.560 And we have about 30 seconds left. Anything of substance that you heard there,

00:11:50.720 policy-wise, or that you've heard tonight that you hadn't heard before?

00:11:53.880 Not in any of these scrums, because they are being taken over by other agendas, right? And not,

00:12:00.140 I think, necessarily helping a broad swath of voters. Some people maybe do want to hear some

00:12:05.340 of these questions and answers, but broadly, I don't think they represent sort of what the ballot

00:12:10.440 box question is about. We can talk more, yeah. Okay, so just a couple things as well that I want

00:12:14.680 to point out about that exchange there. So you're right, Adrian Arsenal's talking about how these

00:12:19.460 weren't the points from the debate. So clearly, they believe that the establishment media gets to set

00:12:25.320 the agenda for the entire election, and that that's what you have to talk about. So the scrums

00:12:30.880 have to be dominated by the exact same questions that were already covered in the debate, which to

00:12:35.860 me doesn't make much sense. And then you have David and Cochran kind of try to explain to everyone

00:12:40.340 what we were even doing there. And he totally gets his facts wrong, right? He's like, one of them is a 0.84

00:12:44.580 registered charity. So I guess that's talking about True North. And then he also says, a federal judge

00:12:50.020 has determined that they're not journalists. Well, that's the opposite of the truth. Actually,

00:12:53.960 the federal judge was the one, as you mentioned, in 2019, that ruled that we were journalists,

00:12:58.500 and therefore we had to get let in. And then you have like a very somber Rosemary Barton come in, 0.97

00:13:03.660 kind of again, repeat the point that this isn't what the campaign is supposed to be about. And this is

00:13:09.680 my favorite part. She says, other agendas have taken over. So she's kind of implying there that,

00:13:14.660 you know, we have our agenda, the legacy media, the CBC agenda. And these are, this is another agenda

00:13:20.660 taken over to just ask questions that millions of Canadians would like to know. From my perspective,

00:13:25.440 you have the debate. They missed a whole bunch of issues, right? They really want to talk about

00:13:29.540 divisive social issues that hurt Pierre Polyev. So they spent 10 minutes of the campaign, of the

00:13:33.680 debate, Ezra, talking about abortion. This is a French debate. The last 10 minutes were on abortion,

00:13:38.020 even though all of the candidates agree. I wish they didn't, but all of the candidates agree on that issue.

00:13:42.640 So that's the type of social issue you're allowed to talk about, the ones that they've decided for

00:13:47.640 the last 25 years to use as an attack against conservatives. You know, the entire craze over

00:13:53.660 radical gender ideology, that's not allowed. The question about residential schools, I wish someone 0.98

00:13:58.920 had asked that question to Mark Carney, right? During the English debate, he said to Jagmeet Singh,

00:14:05.040 no, I don't believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinians. I don't think we

00:14:09.340 should use that word. I would like to know whether he believes that Canada committed genocide,

00:14:13.340 because his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, said not only that Canada did commit genocide, but he said

00:14:18.580 that Canada is committing genocide, the present tense, right? So why don't we ask the leader of the

00:14:24.340 Liberal Party whether he maintains that same view, right? They don't want to talk about the social

00:14:29.060 issues that could harm the Liberals. And you also, just one final point, David Cochran there was

00:14:34.880 complaining about the leaders debate commission. He doesn't like anything about them. So they're

00:14:40.640 kind of lobbying. We saw there was an interview right before the English debate, where he had the

00:14:45.080 debates commissioner on grilling him, how come you let these journalists in? You know, how did you let

00:14:51.180 this happen? And there he's complaining that the Green Party didn't get let in. Okay, the Green Party

00:14:55.340 didn't meet the requirements, right? The requirements have been set in stone for the last two election

00:14:59.820 cycles. They objectively didn't meet those. Why does David Cochran want the Green Party in so much?

00:15:05.760 I'll tell you what I think. Because it helps Mark Carney. The more people on stage, the less Mark

00:15:11.280 Carney has to talk, the less chance there is that he'll stick his foot in his mouth. The entire strategy

00:15:16.140 of the Liberals and the CBC is run out the clock, right? They created a narrative. The narrative is

00:15:20.820 Trump bad, coming against Canada, only Mark Carney can save us. And so all their entire agenda is just

00:15:27.940 to help Mark Carney run out the clock. And I think they just, it's just so obvious. They've exposed

00:15:32.000 themselves. And I mean, now we're at this point where we're seeing them sort of grasp their last

00:15:37.960 grasp of power before they get put out. What do you think of all that? Yeah, I mean, let me give you an

00:15:42.420 example. I was thinking about this the other day. In the last two election cycles, the Conservative Party

00:15:46.720 was the focus of the media rage over the carbon tax. Why won't you support the carbon tax? How dare

00:15:53.400 you do this to the planet? And Andrew Scheer and Aaron O'Toole answered, I don't think their answers

00:15:59.280 were great, but it was such a central focus of the debates. As soon as Mark Carney says, oh, yikes,

00:16:05.500 I'd better shuck off. I'd better jettison the carbon tax if I'm going to win. All of a sudden,

00:16:11.280 the media that was saying this is the death of the climate, the death of our future, suddenly they

00:16:16.720 show no interest in the subject whatsoever. Really? I mean, could you be more transparent in

00:16:23.800 how partisan you are? That whole thing was just a way to get the Conservatives. And now that Mark

00:16:29.300 Carney has flipped on the subject, they're not interested in it anymore. I really, being in that

00:16:36.160 room, Candace, was amazing. I should say that about half the journalists in there were just regular

00:16:41.380 folks doing their job. I sat next to a photographer from the Montreal Gazette. He couldn't care less.

00:16:46.240 He was just there to take photos. I mean, there are some really normal people in journalism,

00:16:49.940 but some of them are Antifa activists with a laptop. There was some nut bar from the Hilltimes who

00:16:55.400 started screaming first at Kian Bexty and then at us and some other kook at Ricochet. And, you know, 0.97

00:17:02.700 they were so disruptive. And I thought the word demonic came to mind. The way they went after

00:17:07.860 Drea was demonic. And then I just thought, what is it? And here's my guess of what happened. First

00:17:13.500 of all, I think some of them, like I say, are radical activists. And it was, this was their

00:17:18.540 January 6th moment. Oh my God, independent journalists are storming in. I think second of

00:17:23.600 all, they've been radicalized. They've been convinced by the BS on the CBC that we are all the

00:17:29.880 things they falsely accuse us of. So, so if we were in the room and a bunch of Klansmen came in

00:17:34.360 with hoods, we would freak out and say, what the heck are you guys doing in here? That's how they've

00:17:39.540 been trained and taught and brainwashed into thinking anyone right of center is. And finally,

00:17:45.820 there's the fact that they know we get more views often than they do. I mean, I stopped counting how

00:17:53.000 many views Rebel News got when we hit 2 billion. I mean, I like it when a video goes viral, but I don't

00:17:59.000 even count anymore. I'm sure you're the same way. And I remember when we started Rebel News a decade

00:18:04.160 ago, I had an inferiority complex. I said, oh, are we really even doing journalism? And we don't have

00:18:09.320 the fancy stats and we don't have the, the reach, but, but we do. And these guys are some artificial

00:18:18.160 last refuge and they're only there because they're propped up by the government. And that's why they're

00:18:24.160 in panic mode. They know that we run circles around them. They know that we have the love of

00:18:29.180 Canadians. We have to, we don't get government bailouts. And they know that if this election

00:18:33.480 goes the wrong way for them, a lot of the people in that room may be unemployed because for them,

00:18:38.480 their hobby and their politics are being subsidized. Juno, Counter Signal, Western Standard,

00:18:44.800 Rebel News, we live based on the support of our people. And they, the CBC can't say the same.

00:18:51.360 And I think it's all these things combining and we were in their safe place. And let me just throw

00:18:58.280 one last thing. I know we're, we don't have too much time, but there was this moment where Michel

00:19:02.780 Cormier, the head of the debates commission was doing, doing the tour and getting beat up by all

00:19:07.620 the regime journalists for letting us in. And it was in one interview, he said, there's only so much I

00:19:13.180 can do to limit the free press. He literally said that out loud. Other journalists were saying,

00:19:18.920 why do you let the Rebel News in? He said, I agree with you. I didn't want to, but the court says I

00:19:25.180 have to, shouldn't, I have to follow the law. Like he was apologizing. He was apologizing for

00:19:31.180 allowing free speech. I don't know. These guys can't lose heart enough. I, I, I, I mean, from our

00:19:38.680 perspective, Ezra, it's like, it's just like good versus evil. It's so black and white. Like there's

00:19:43.200 no gray here. It's like these people hate free speech in a free press. And yet they say it.

00:19:49.460 Imagine putting a guy in charge of a debates who says publicly, I wish I could do more to limit

00:19:55.180 free speech. He said that he really said that that was his excuse. When Radio Canada, the French CBC

00:20:01.140 was saying, why didn't you ban these guys? He said, guys, I tried.

00:20:05.840 Okay. I want to get to just one other thing. I know, I know we don't have you for much longer.

00:20:09.280 Um, I'm going to do this one and then, and then I want to quickly talk about the news and the two

00:20:13.780 campaigns. Um, but this was probably one of the most satisfying, delicious things that happened.

00:20:18.540 So first I'll show you, uh, after the French debate, Rosemary Barton accused your journalist,

00:20:24.740 Drea Humphries, of trafficking in misinformation. And she fact-checked her live on television,

00:20:30.340 claiming that yes, there have been remains of indigenous children found in various places

00:20:34.420 across the country. Let's play that clip.

00:20:35.960 I have to sort of address the elephant in the room. How are these people chosen to answer these

00:20:42.460 questions? And I don't know if either one of you have an answer for that, but I think there will be

00:20:45.840 people at home saying, some of these seem like odd questions. Some of them aren't getting answered.

00:20:50.340 How come we've heard so often from this one particular outlet? Any idea what's going on there?

00:20:54.720 There's three, uh, right wing, um, very right wing, uh, media. We can call them media websites that are

00:21:01.480 present, uh, in there. They get in line to ask a question like anybody else. Their accreditation has been

00:21:07.020 approved by the commission of debates. And so they get the right to stand in line and ask a question, uh, that they

00:21:13.320 choose to ask. In this case, you saw Mr. Singh, and this has been his position for some time to refuse to answer

00:21:19.280 questions. Rebel news in particular, traffics and misinformation, facts, uh, lack of facts. And, uh, as you heard in that

00:21:26.960 question, which was, uh, woven with some truth and some things that weren't true. Yes, there have been, uh, burnings

00:21:33.260 of Christian Catholic churches. Uh, yes, there have been remains of indigenous children found in various places

00:21:40.440 around the country, which she misrepresented. We'll see if Mr. Poiliev gets any questions from right wing

00:21:45.280 organizations. I would suspect no. As an aside, I love that they refuse to call us journalists. So they call us media

00:21:50.940 websites. Very far right. Okay. So to get to the good part, uh, when she said that I was actually, I was going to fact

00:21:57.520 check it, but then we got carried away with other things because we track this stuff pretty closely, Ezra. And every time

00:22:03.360 they've done an excavation, which haven't, there haven't been very many, right? Most of the time, you know, the, the

00:22:08.640 industries behind the first nations, unmarked grave thing, they really want to drum up the accusation. And then when it comes to the

00:22:14.380 actual report, they bury it. They don't want it done. They don't want to excavate. They've never excavated

00:22:18.740 in cantaloupes where the initial 215, um, soil disturbances were found. And so when Rose Ray Barton

00:22:25.620 said that, I thought, you know, she actually believes the propaganda. She believes lies. Cause I think that

00:22:30.460 she was in good faith trying to fact check because she believes that she knows the truth. And the reality

00:22:35.620 is that she's not very well informed Ezra because yes, there have been some excavations. They have never

00:22:40.380 found remains. They have never found remains. And so even the CBC, this is, I'll give someone at the organization

00:22:45.700 credit for this. This fact check popped up April 17th. So here, let me read it. This is what it says, buried at the bottom

00:22:51.460 of a CBC news story, right? Rosemary Barton didn't have to apologize, but they did have to issue a correction for what she 0.98

00:22:57.080 just said. Here it says on April 16th, during a live broadcast following the French language federal election leaders

00:23:02.100 debate on CBC news network, chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton said, quote, yes, there have been remains of

00:23:08.160 indigenous children found in various places across the country. Unquote. As CBC news has reported on

00:23:13.240 multiple occasions, what several indigenous communities across Canada have discovered on sites

00:23:17.160 of some former residential schools are potential barrier sites or unmarked rape. So no, I mean, even,

00:23:24.380 even in their, even in their correction, Ezra, they twisted and manipulate it. They don't come right out

00:23:29.480 and say it fact check Rosemary Barton. They've never found any remains. They've never found any remains

00:23:35.460 and they're trying. They're desperately trying. So at least, you know, the CBC has admitted it.

00:23:40.600 And I think, Ezra, this goes to show what a great question it was from Drea. And I wish that it was

00:23:44.860 asked to Mark Carney as well. Hopefully we'll have that opportunity in the future. Yeah. By the way,

00:23:49.860 Drea Humphrey went to Kamloops and she was puttering around. She actually bumped into the chief and put 0.68

00:23:54.920 questions to her. I am certain Rosemary Barton hasn't gone to any lengths to find the truth. And for her to

00:24:00.680 presume to be the arbiter of the truth is a bit much. Listen, one man's misinformation is another

00:24:07.100 man's argument. These are unresolved issues. And this whole industry of fact checking and

00:24:14.240 misinformation is a way of saying you're not allowed to have a different opinion. Everything

00:24:19.800 should be challengeable. I mean, we just came through the COVID-19, everything from where did the

00:24:26.400 virus originate to do the vaccines work, to do vaccine mandates work, to should we violate civil

00:24:32.880 liberties of people with the Emergencies Act. All of those things are controversies. And we allow

00:24:38.580 controversies. Let truth and falsehood grapple. But for them to say, rebel news, traffics and

00:24:43.960 misinformation, they shouldn't be allowed in at all. Well, they get things wrong literally every day.

00:24:49.360 Sometimes I think you're right. This was misinformation, a mistake by Rosemary Barton. But in other cases,

00:24:55.080 it's very much disinformation, deliberate spin in service of their master, Mark Carney. I'm not

00:25:01.520 calling for the CBC to be banned from anything. And I wish they wouldn't call for me or you to be

00:25:07.040 banned either. I think it shows how brittle their ideas are. If they had their way, they would ban us

00:25:14.780 and they would shut down independent websites through things like Bill C-63. And I'm quite worried

00:25:21.200 that if Mark Carney wins again, I'm worried he will bring in those censorship laws and he is

00:25:25.960 intimated as much. So there's a lot at stake. You said this was the most consequential election of

00:25:31.080 your lifetime. I believe that's true as well. And I'm a little bit worried.

00:25:34.380 Well, and this just goes to, again, the need for more independent questions, because why hasn't this

00:25:39.880 been asked of Mark Carney? Why don't we know what his position on Trudeau government censorship laws

00:25:44.700 are? We don't even know basic things as are like, if he loses the election, will he stay on?

00:25:49.500 Yeah. We don't know basic biographical things. When did he move back to Canada? Last year,

00:25:54.680 he told the U.S. Congress, he was interrogated by the U.S. Congress for sort of price fixing and

00:25:59.600 extortion of a carbon company. He was interrogated under oath by congressional lawyers. And he told

00:26:06.660 them he lived in the United Kingdom. This was just a few months ago. When did he move back to Canada?

00:26:11.440 Has he moved back to Canada? Where did he file his personal taxes? His health care card,

00:26:16.180 is it an Ontario card? Is it the NHS in the U.K.? Why have his wife and children not returned back

00:26:21.460 to Canada? Why did he get three passports? Is he really going to give them up? I mean,

00:26:26.700 those may sound like detailed questions, but I think we have the right to know the man who was selected

00:26:33.280 as our prime minister in a botched election, 400,000 people registered to vote in the liberal

00:26:39.220 leadership contest. 250,000 of those were disqualified. Only 150,000 out of 400,000 were

00:26:46.320 allowed to vote. What's with that? And the results were statistically so improbable.

00:26:53.360 And no one looked into it. And we're not allowed to ask questions. I assure you that the Chinese 1.00

00:26:58.520 Communist Party took a great interest in his leadership vote. I know that because every week

00:27:04.000 there's another emergency announcement by the Canadian intelligence services that China's

00:27:08.660 meddling in our campaign. Well, I mean, imagine instead of just meddling with 11 individual MPs,

00:27:15.060 imagine putting a Manchurian candidate right in the PMO. And I don't know the facts about it because

00:27:20.440 he won't answer the facts. When was the last time Mark Carney spoke to the Chinese embassy or a Chinese

00:27:26.180 diplomat? Do we know the answer to that? I think it's a valid question considering he literally met

00:27:30.280 with Xi Jinping himself. Why did he take a quarter billion dollar loan from China? Is China the world

00:27:35.980 leader in finance? Like what were the terms there? What ongoing ties does he have to China? Those

00:27:41.500 aren't conspiracy questions. Those are genuine fact-finding accountability questions that you

00:27:46.760 vet someone before you put them in charge of the country. This guy just popped up here after a decade

00:27:51.560 away. We don't know so many basic details about him. And the CBC will do anything to keep it that way.

00:27:57.360 What an utter absolute failure of media. The fact that you could just, both of us could just come

00:28:02.020 up with a dozen questions that would easily want to know and ask the prime minister. Millions,

00:28:07.000 and I think tens of millions of Canadians would agree that those are important issues that should

00:28:10.480 have been featured in this campaign. What a total abdication of responsibility by the media. I hope

00:28:15.680 Pierre Polyev wins this election just so that he can blow up the status quo and have a shakeup,

00:28:21.020 allow for different ideas and different opinions to be coming in. Just the final point I want to make

00:28:25.460 about this election and ask you about Ezra is we've now seen that the primary emotion driving

00:28:32.020 liberal voters is fear. The primary emotion driving conservative voters is hope, hope for the future,

00:28:37.460 optimism for change. That's kind of a flip of how the election usually is, or at least the media try

00:28:41.740 to pretend and accuse the conservatives of running on hate and division and using dog whistle, all this

00:28:47.220 nonsense. Whereas this time is actually the case. But I think the liberal attitude around the campaign

00:28:54.060 shows that they're losing. You know, the fact that Terry Gilliam assaulted your reporter outside the

00:29:00.020 Debates Commission last week, I mean, this is a campaign that is like flailing out of control,

00:29:04.640 spiraling in negativity. The viral image of the Bramford boomer, I think, an actual liberal campaign

00:29:11.460 worker with the, you know, double middle finger at an independent journalist for daring to just be at a

00:29:18.680 Mark Kearney event. And she's not the only one with having that experience. You know, there were

00:29:25.460 multiple images of older, angry liberal supporters or staffers, you know, they're really kind of angry

00:29:32.740 and deranged. And then you contrast that with Pierre Polyev, who, you know, he's been getting big union

00:29:39.480 endorsements, the former liberal premier of British Columbia, Gordon Campbell just came out and endorsed him,

00:29:45.300 Moses Simner, the Canadian Association of Retired Persons. Like, he's building this sort of optimistic

00:29:51.360 coalition. I think that they have the momentum going into the final stretch. They've closed the

00:29:56.740 gap, right? At one point earlier in the campaign, the liberals and Mark Kearney were up by 10, 12 points.

00:30:02.300 Now, by most accurate, honest pollsters, it's neck and neck, like a tie, maybe. I think that Kearney has

00:30:09.420 lost this election. It's just a matter of who's going to get the minority? Is it going to be the

00:30:13.460 liberal? Is it going to be conservative? Mostly, how is that vote going to be distributed?

00:30:17.960 Final thing is, early voting, my husband and I went out and took part in the advanced poll voting.

00:30:25.440 And record, Elections Canada say a record 7.3 million Canadians voted in the advanced polling,

00:30:33.580 which means that we might get the most, we might set a new record, Ezra, for the highest voter turnout

00:30:38.560 ever. So I think Canadians agree, this is an incredibly important election. And really, it's like,

00:30:43.240 which path we're going down? Fear and anger and, you know, the double middle finger

00:30:48.480 towards others? Or this campaign of optimism and hope for the future and sort of restoring

00:30:55.280 the Canadian promise? What do you think?

00:30:57.420 Yeah. David Coletto is one of my favorite pollsters. He's with a polling company called

00:31:01.140 Abacus. And he had a tweet the other day that I thought was fascinating. He said,

00:31:05.500 is it true that the liberals have lost a 15 point, 12 or 15 point lead in a month? To believe that,

00:31:12.300 you have to believe that they ran a horrible campaign or the conservatives ran a terrific

00:31:16.440 campaign. Or, he posited, is this response bias to pollsters? Let me translate into plain English.

00:31:22.620 David Coletto, a pollster, is saying that people were not telling the truth to pollsters. And I had

00:31:28.340 to Google response bias because I didn't really know what it meant. It means things like you want

00:31:33.020 to tell the pollster what you think is socially acceptable. Or there's a peer pressure going on,

00:31:37.980 so you'll say one thing on the phone, but you'll mark it at X on a ballot differently.

00:31:44.000 I thought that was a very interesting thing for a pollster himself to say, because I think he was

00:31:47.800 trying to say, how did this swing so much? And I think it's so being, there's a drumbeat,

00:31:54.720 you've got to support Carney, you must hate Trump. It's just fascinating to me. I wonder if the large

00:32:02.720 turnout is people saying, whoa, this is being, there's some hoodwinking going on here. I don't

00:32:09.300 know. I am nervous about it, but I know that the liberals are dark. Let me tell you a super quick

00:32:14.860 story. Remember Buttongate? About two weeks ago, the liberals were caught handing out fake Trump-like

00:32:22.040 political buttons at a conservative end to sort of plant them on Pierre Polyev as if Polyev was

00:32:27.840 saying Trump-like slogans like stop the steal or lock him up. This was part of the liberal messaging

00:32:33.440 strategy that Pierre Polyev is a mini Trump. You can't trust him to deal with Trump. He's just like

00:32:38.780 Trump. So this was a total campaign effort to smear Polyev as being in Trump's pocket. So the dirty

00:32:44.760 tricks part was planting these buttons at a conservative function. It was only because their

00:32:50.840 election staff were loudly boasting about it in a bar. They were overheard by actually a CBC reporter.

00:32:57.020 I don't know if you know this, Candace, but I actually own the trademark to one of the buttons

00:33:01.320 that was used, Make Canada Great Again, if you can believe it. I trademarked that a few years ago.

00:33:05.660 So they stole my property as part of their campaign dirty tricks. So I'm suing the Liberal Party

00:33:11.040 for trademark violations. I'm suing the Liberal Party and John Doe's one and John Doe two.

00:33:16.460 I want to know who did it. I want to know, did this go to the top? I suspect it did, Candace,

00:33:21.520 because this was a total campaign strategy. And Mark Carney said he didn't fire the malefactors.

00:33:27.720 He called it, quote, totally unacceptable. But then he said he, quote, reassigned them. Really?

00:33:33.680 So my lawsuit obviously will not be heard before the election. But I intend to pursue it. First of all,

00:33:39.140 I want to enforce my property rights. You can't steal, Make Canada Great Again. We trademarked that.

00:33:43.500 We're selling hats, etc. But I want to know who did it. And I think that they're lying about it. I

00:33:51.240 think Mark Carney pretends to be an ethical, gentlemanly guy. But I think he will do anything

00:33:57.640 to win. And the liberals around him will do anything to win. Gerald Butts, Katie Telford.

00:34:02.580 It's Justin Trudeau's old crew. All of it. So I just wanted to tell you that little story.

00:34:08.000 They are dirty tricksters. They accuse conservatives of being rough. They're the dirty tricksters, 0.99

00:34:12.920 liberals themselves. Wow, Ezra. Well, that's interesting. We're going to have to follow 1.00

00:34:16.620 up with you on that lawsuit. Good for you for filing it. And hey, we really appreciate your

00:34:21.720 time and your insights, Ezra. And thank you. You've really charted the way for independent

00:34:25.400 media. I really mean it. We wouldn't be here at Juno News or at True North without your leadership

00:34:30.940 in this field. So keep up the great work and good luck with the lawsuit.

00:34:35.640 Thanks for those very kind words. You keep up the fight.

00:34:38.160 All right. Thank you so much. Ezra Levant, founder and leader of The Rebel. Well, folks,

00:34:42.080 is all the time we have for today. We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news.

00:34:45.860 I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - April 23, 2025

CBC has LOST CONTROL of the election – and the country (ft. Ezra Levant)

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