The Candice Malcolm Show - Danielle Smith calls for a Canadian BORDER CZAR

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm show. We have a great show

00:00:14.840 lined up for you today. We have to talk about the most important issue of the day, which

00:00:19.840 is Canada's immigration crisis. We have an immigration crisis that has caused a border

00:00:24.700 crisis in this country. This has been years and years in the making. I myself and many

00:00:29.500 others have been ringing the alarm bell, urging the Trudeau government to take this issue seriously,

00:00:34.620 but the Liberals' disastrous immigration policies, our disastrous national security policies

00:00:39.040 are finally blowing up in their faces, and it's also blowing up in our faces. So we know

00:00:43.860 that the Trump administration continues to make it very clear to us. They are saying to

00:00:48.420 fix our borders, to stop allowing terrorists to cross the border, to stop allowing drugs

00:00:52.760 and fentanyl to cross the border. Otherwise, we'll face disastrous tariffs. While Trudeau

00:00:57.560 continues to ignore these warnings. And meanwhile, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is the only

00:01:02.780 political leader calling him out. So we're going to talk about the latest, including

00:01:08.040 Danielle Smith's calls to have a border czar in Canada. We desperately need it. We're going

00:01:13.060 to talk a little bit about the liberal leadership race. We'll talk about Quebec's new immigration

00:01:17.860 and integration bill that they're proposing and all the other big news stories of the day.

00:01:23.080 I'm very excited to be joined by two new guests to the podcast. Never had them on before. I'm

00:01:27.460 talking about Jonathan Harvey and Liam DeBoer. These two together are the hosts of the Blender

00:01:33.520 Report podcast. I love their stuff. I see their videos all over social media. They're always hitting

00:01:37.800 the nail right on the head with very pointed discussion and debate when it comes to issues

00:01:42.680 like politics, immigration, public policy, and especially corruption. So guys, thank you so much

00:01:48.500 for joining the podcast. Great to have you here. Hey, Candace. Thanks for having us on.

00:01:52.800 Okay. So let's start with this call from Danielle Smith, Alberta Premier. She's been taking the lead

00:01:57.600 when it comes to what I think is the correct approach to dealing with Donald Trump, which is a little bit

00:02:02.200 of diplomacy and a little bit of listening to the things that he's saying, right? He wants us to fix

00:02:06.900 the border. He wants us to fix our immigration systems, immigration system. These are known issues for

00:02:12.340 us. We know that these are creating huge problems. So let's start by playing this clip. This is

00:02:16.240 Danielle Smith saying that Canada needs a border czar, similar to what Trump appointed with Tom

00:02:22.400 Homan, someone who can help us crack down on the fentanyl, crack down on the illegal immigration. 1.00

00:02:27.520 Let's play that clip. Let me say it again. The one thing that we can do this week in just the next

00:02:33.760 couple of days to have the best chance to avoid tariffs is to show clear and unequivocal action to

00:02:40.720 secure the border. This should start with the appointment of a Canadian border czar to work

00:02:45.780 with the new American border czar to jointly crack down hard on fentanyl and illegal migrants.

00:02:52.340 Is this likely to end the threat of tariffs entirely? I don't think so. I think there will be other

00:02:56.980 things that we will need to work on and we will do so. But I am convinced after speaking with dozens

00:03:03.700 of elected U.S. representatives, administration officials and the president himself that this is

00:03:10.260 the most important first step. Today I reiterated this to the premiers, Minister LeBlanc, Minister

00:03:15.700 Wilkinson and Prime Minister Trudeau. And I hope it is acted on by the end of this week before February 1st.

00:03:22.260 So there you have it, Smith, taking on the leadership role. Liam, I'll start with you.

00:03:27.700 What do you think of Danielle Smith's call there for borders are and what do you make more broadly

00:03:31.620 of this entire issue? I don't know if it fully addresses the issue in its entirety because,

00:03:39.220 you know, right now the Canada U.S. border is the largest unmanned border on the planet, essentially.

00:03:47.780 And one thing that Luke Sabrin, a CBSA whistleblower, detailed in our interview with him is that

00:03:55.380 the main issue is that we're first granting a lot of these people asylum and citizenship. And so,

00:04:02.020 you know, yes, sure, we can monitor our border more. But the issue is that a lot of these people

00:04:08.340 are coming here in the first place. So there's a few famous cases. So a couple of months ago,

00:04:15.380 the Ahmed al-Didi case where a ISIS member who was filmed dismembering somebody for ISIS was granted

00:04:24.500 Canadian citizenship. We're seeing it all over the place. A lot of instances like that. And so I don't,

00:04:32.020 I don't know if really just monitoring the border fixes the issue in its entirety. It seems more like

00:04:37.940 a band-aid than anything. Well, you're absolutely right. And it's a decade in the making of Trudeau's

00:04:42.420 disastrous immigration policies, not screening people, not vetting them. The idea of asylum

00:04:48.500 seekers just being able to walk in. We don't really know who they are. We don't really know

00:04:52.020 where they came from. In many cases, their documents are either gone or they've been falsified. They're

00:04:56.660 fake. In the interview that you did with that CBSA official, retired official, what was it? He said

00:05:02.580 that there was 300,000 missing passports that a terrorist group had stolen blank Canadian passports,

00:05:08.180 and we're now using them to issue fake passports. It's kind of unbelievable how broken our system

00:05:13.380 is. I don't think that this solution of a border czar will fix everything, but I think it's a step in

00:05:18.180 the right direction. What do you think, Jonathan? Well, here's the challenge. I agree with both of

00:05:23.700 you that it's a band-aid on a broken leg, but the real problem you have is if it's going to be a border

00:05:28.660 czar, are they coming from the federal government? The answer is yes. So if it's a liberal border czar who's

00:05:33.700 aligned with liberal policies, which has got us into this mess, really what value is it? So it's

00:05:38.100 really nothing more than performative if they do that under the Trudeau government, in my opinion.

00:05:41.380 That's true. I think that what Trump wants is action. When I look at the liberal government,

00:05:47.060 I just see they're always coming up with federal strategies and always wanting to create new

00:05:52.260 bureaucracies and new regulatory schemes to fix a problem, whereas Trump is so action-oriented.

00:05:59.300 Right. And so like, I don't know specifically if Tom Homan, who is the American borders are,

00:06:05.060 is like, you know, going to be able to fix every single problem when it comes to American

00:06:09.060 immigration and poor Southern border. But having like a maverick type character out there defending

00:06:13.620 the policies, leading the charges, saying like defending ICE, defending these government agencies

00:06:18.820 in the US that get such a bad rap in the media, it is a step in the right direction. I agree that

00:06:22.900 probably the liberals would appoint some terrible bureaucrat, but I think that Canada needs to be

00:06:27.700 more action-oriented. So the Trump administration has made it quite clear. So the other day we had

00:06:34.100 a Commerce Secretary nominee, Howard Lutnig, and he was speaking to a US Senate hearing. He made it

00:06:41.140 pretty clear what the Americans are planning to do. So he says here that there's going to be basically

00:06:47.300 a two-phase implementation of the tariffs. They're going to have an emergency action that will be

00:06:53.860 implemented as early as Feb 1, which is this Saturday. And the purpose of that is to mitigate

00:06:58.980 the fentanyl crisis and to stop the flow of deadly drugs into the United States. And then they said

00:07:03.380 that they're also looking to study and implement something on Feb 1, or sorry, on April 1st. This

00:07:09.620 was what the executive order on day one of Trump's administration focused on, which is, you know,

00:07:13.700 we're going to study something and see if we can come up with a better tax policy and tariff policy.

00:07:18.340 So that's phase two. Let's play this clip. We have this clip of Commerce Secretary nominee Howard

00:07:24.020 Lutnig. The big tariff view is going to be studied and the president launched that in an executive order

00:07:31.860 where he asked the Commerce Department and the USTR to study the tariff model long-term. The short-term

00:07:39.460 issue is illegal migration and worse, even still, fentanyl coming into this country and killing over

00:07:47.300 100,000 Americans. There's no war we could have that would kill 100,000 Americans. The president

00:07:54.100 is focused on ending fentanyl coming into the country. You know that the labs in Canada are run

00:08:00.980 by Mexican cartels. So this tariff model is simply to shut their borders with respect. Respect America.

00:08:10.180 If we are your biggest trading partner, show us the respect. Shut your border and end fentanyl coming into

00:08:16.340 this country. So it is not a tariff per se. It is an action of domestic policy. Shut your border and stop 1.00

00:08:24.980 allowing fentanyl into our country, killing our people. So this is a separate tariff to create action

00:08:33.380 from Mexico and action from Canada. And as far as I know, they are acting swiftly. And if they execute it,

00:08:40.500 there will be no tariff. And if they don't, then there will be. But it's an action-oriented model.

00:08:45.860 That's not the ordinary tariff. The ordinary tariffs need to be studied and examined. And that would start,

00:08:52.900 as the EO said, in April. So we're talking about two tariffs here. And he says that if there's swift

00:08:59.700 action, we won't bring in the tariff on Feb 1. So in that regard, what Danielle Smith is saying is

00:09:05.940 absolutely right that we need to take swift action here. We need to show the Americans that we're

00:09:09.940 serious. We don't want fentanyl in our country either. We don't want terrorists in our country

00:09:14.100 either. You know, we have, what, three days here, gentlemen, to try to avoid, you know,

00:09:20.260 economy crushing tariffs here. What do you think we can do?

00:09:26.500 Well, I think one thing that is worth noting as well is the border issue goes both ways. Now,

00:09:33.220 I am on the idea that, yes, something definitely needs to be done on that front. But, you know,

00:09:40.420 we just saw as well the big cocaine bust that happened in Toronto there with the $83 million

00:09:46.260 worth of cocaine being seized. Was it more?

00:09:51.300 Oops, we can't hear you there, Jonathan.

00:09:54.740 Go ahead. So with that, either way, things are going both directions. Even a lot of the illegal fire

00:10:03.060 arms that are in Canada. It was the Peel Regional Police said 90% of the illegal firearms they come

00:10:09.460 into contact with are come from America. And the other 10%, they just don't know because the serial

00:10:15.620 numbers are scrubbed. However, they also believe those come from America as well. So I am of the mind

00:10:23.060 that Danielle Smith has the right approach, which is a diplomatic approach and going, hey, you know,

00:10:28.180 this border issue goes both ways. And maybe we need to stop. Well, both governments have facilitated

00:10:34.420 the open border policies for the last four or five years. And so we need to first deal with that issue

00:10:41.860 that those policies have created. But that's going to take a team approach, not necessarily just America

00:10:48.180 pretending like there's nothing on their end and that it's all coming from Canada south. It's going both

00:10:55.060 ways for sure. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, obviously, we're on the same page there. But

00:11:00.980 in terms of like, what can we do in the next few days? I'm of the opinion, we're sort of set up for

00:11:05.060 failure here because government moves slow. It's what it is like we have increased the size of

00:11:09.220 government direct federal workforce under Trudeau by 42%. But this country hasn't gotten any better,

00:11:15.060 nothing's moved lower, not more efficient. We're actually just burning more money. So when you look at

00:11:20.420 an issue like this, that, you know, agreed team approach, and it's going to be, it's complex.

00:11:26.500 It's not just I agree with the idea of a border czar, obviously, if it's going to be liberal, I think

00:11:30.660 there's going to be some issues there. But that's only one step, right? These people are looking for

00:11:36.020 a solution to stop this thing, which is all the fentanyl trafficking and the illegal migration. We can't

00:11:41.780 we can't do that in three days, we can't turn that tap off or on that quickly, because our government

00:11:45.940 doesn't really have a handle on these things. So unfortunately, I think whatever our best

00:11:51.700 efforts are going to fall short no matter what. And I do think we have sort of a foundational issue

00:11:57.140 here, because our federal government is trying to go to war with with Trump over this. And it's an

00:12:02.180 unwinnable tariff war, very much bigger player, there's no chance. So I think that their perception

00:12:08.020 of the whole thing is still off. Like I think 10%, 20% of their effort, like in not about mobilization,

00:12:14.260 but just in terms of how they're politicking. 20% of the politicking effort is towards the border and

00:12:19.620 the fentanyl and the other 80% is about managing these tariffs and this tariff war. I think they're

00:12:24.260 I think they're just, I think their efforts are going in the wrong direction in a lot of ways for

00:12:27.940 something that's very complex, and will take more than well, three days to solve. So I think we're,

00:12:32.340 I think we're between a rock and a hard place here, to be honest with you.

00:12:34.740 Well, and I just sorry, I just want to add one perspective there as well is that you've got

00:12:38.980 Doug Ford and Trudeau both claiming that they're ready to put forward pandemic style spending of

00:12:46.180 stimulus in order to save the economy, right? Well, okay, to to Jonathan's point about it being

00:12:51.220 20% of the focus being on the border, I'd say it's almost even less than that. Because if they put 1.4

00:12:58.660 billion towards the border security, and then on the other aspect, they're talking about 10s of

00:13:05.380 billions into stimulus spending. So they're saying, right, this is what we're willing to

00:13:10.020 a lot for a trade war. This is what we're willing to a lot for the actual problem.

00:13:16.420 Well, the problem with the Liberals is that the the solution to everything that they see is more

00:13:21.620 socialism, like they they truly believe that Canadians should have a universal basic income,

00:13:26.100 they want to find ways to pay Canadians basically to be subservient. And we saw this during COVID with

00:13:31.380 the CERB. It was disastrous for the economy and disastrous for small businesses who just couldn't

00:13:35.780 hire people terrible for the psyche of the Canadian people like the idea that it'd be better to just 0.52

00:13:40.100 stay home and play video games like what does that do to a generation of young men and young women?

00:13:44.260 It's like, well, I don't really want to work. I don't really have to. And, you know, we constantly see

00:13:49.060 this that they they use an emergency as an excuse, and they're just going to do it again, and again,

00:13:53.540 and again. And I really I really fear I mean, when I when I when I look at that pandemic stuff program,

00:13:58.340 it's like, hello, you guys bankrupted the country. Like the reason that we're in a cost of living

00:14:02.100 crisis is because of rampant immigrant inflation and inflation because you just flooded the money 1.00

00:14:07.700 supply. You gave everybody tons of cash instead of homes. They're printing money. And these problems

00:14:11.700 are all still like spilling out. We're still dealing with it. Jonathan, you mentioned that the

00:14:18.340 Trudeau government is kind of trying to respond by playing tough and wanting a trade war. I noticed that

00:14:22.580 industry minister François-Philippe Champagne posted this link online showing the a map of the United

00:14:28.180 States' largest trading partners. You can see all the purple there is Canada. So it is true that Canada

00:14:35.060 that the United States will also suffer from these tariffs. You know, Trump is trying to fix the

00:14:40.020 inflation crisis that Biden created in the United States. Adding on these tariffs will make it more

00:14:44.820 expensive for Americans. But I think the reality is, it's just going to be much, much, much worse for

00:14:51.460 Canadians. So David Knight Legge, who was a former special advisor to the Premier of Alberta, he was

00:14:57.140 a guest on Rachel Parker's show here on True North last week. He responded to François-Philippe Champagne's

00:15:05.060 tweet there with a long post. I'm going to read part of it here and then I'll get you guys to react. He

00:15:09.300 says, the map doesn't tell the story you think it does, Minister. We are under tariff threats because

00:15:14.740 your government broke the border and the formerly reliable Canadian offered in our military asylum,

00:15:21.140 immigration, security and foreign affairs. The past four years, 90% of all terrorists interacted

00:15:29.300 came from Canada. I'll just go on here. He writes that, here's the data behind that picture, Minister.

00:15:35.700 Canada's total GDP export dependency on the US is 77%. America's export dependency on us is only 17%

00:15:45.300 right? So even though all these states have their largest trading partner being Canada,

00:15:49.220 when you look at the total economy, you're only talking about 17%.

00:15:53.860 Whereas for us, it's 77%. Their economy is sometimes bigger. We are far, far more dependent

00:16:00.020 on them. Almost like 90% of our economy is tied to trade with them. A trade war is going to hurt us

00:16:09.380 so much worse. What are the Liberals doing? And why is it that they always want to use the same

00:16:19.220 solution to every problem? Well, I think one of the problems is if you change your strategy,

00:16:24.420 it's an admission of guilt and politics, which is a fundamental flaw in the organization just in

00:16:28.420 general. I actually had the numbers a little lower. I thought it was only around 13% of goods were from

00:16:34.660 Canada and America. So like you said, we're going to feel this significantly more. You know, the issues

00:16:39.300 we have, when you talk about solutions, you know, sure, we try to wrap up the border issue, but

00:16:44.260 we need to be leveraging our natural resources more. I mean, Liam and I were talking about this

00:16:47.380 yesterday. We could ramp up oil and LNG production and exporting it pretty significantly over the next

00:16:54.020 few months. I know that wouldn't be a silver bullet solution, but it's a step in the right direction.

00:16:58.420 We'd be able to ramp up oil and LNG at scale through new pipelines in the next few years, you know,

00:17:04.260 three to five, depending on all the regulatory nonsense. And then in terms of our just critical

00:17:10.100 minerals and stuff like that, we can be moving on this in less than 12 months. These would make

00:17:13.380 a big difference for us because our exports would go through the roof by comparison to what they are

00:17:17.700 now. And we could diversify. We know we've got several countries in Europe that already want our

00:17:21.140 natural gas. You know, we could be less dependent on the United States. This is crucial. You know,

00:17:27.620 they talk about phases. There's two phases for Canada. One is working through this. Two is

00:17:32.100 diversifying our exports. Otherwise, we're going to be in this exact same situation again.

00:17:35.780 And it's pretty nonsense that we're not already doing this look like Canada should be one of the

00:17:39.300 most prosperous nations in the entire world by like, but top three, I would suggest. But we're

00:17:44.820 not leveraging our natural resources, because it's all we're kind of operating under this, this green 1.00

00:17:49.300 agenda, guys, that in my opinion, has got some faulty science behind it. And we're all suffering

00:17:53.300 because of it, right. So we've put ourselves in this situation and Trudeau has made it significantly

00:17:57.860 worse by refusing to do what's right for this country. But with respect to the United States,

00:18:01.780 what I find interesting is Trump is now also talking about abolishing the income tax he was

00:18:07.860 talking about. He's talking about a bunch of stuff. But he was looking at a strategy used by McKinley in

00:18:12.580 the late 1800s, early 1900s. And McKinley was assassinated in 1901. He was a president that used

00:18:19.300 tariffs to rebuild the American economy. But here's the difference. In 1900, tariffs were not a form of

00:18:27.300 economic warfare. Because there was a lot more nationalism, there was a lot more domestic

00:18:31.540 production. So you use these tariffs, it would support your own economy, people didn't really

00:18:35.300 get too upset about it, right. But the problem you have now is, and probably for the last 5060 years,

00:18:40.500 tariffs are economic warfare. That's what they're used for. I mean, what did every country in the West

00:18:44.180 do to China when it came to EVs, we threw tariffs on them, sometimes 100%. So the understanding or just the

00:18:51.540 perception of tariffs is not the same. So I understand that Trump's going, hey, we need

00:18:55.780 to do more domestic production, we need to rebuild America, America first. Okay, no problem with that.

00:19:00.340 But he's using a weapon that was effective 130 years ago, but it's seen very differently today. So

00:19:05.540 when you're using a 25% tariff on Canada, and then the other day, Colombia wouldn't let some of their,

00:19:11.540 some immigrants from America back in Colombia that were Colombians, he used the same thing,

00:19:15.380 well, I'm going to throw a 25% tariff on you. So what that says to us is, in terms of this being

00:19:19.460 economic warfare, you put us in the same boat as Colombia, that's not good for trade relations. 0.56

00:19:23.540 So I think you're going to have some pretty big issues. And maybe some, some, you know,

00:19:28.900 diplomatic problems that drag on from from Trump's, from Trump's move here, like, I think he is going

00:19:34.100 to, like, to your point, they are going to suffer, I'm not sure it's going to be from Canadian imports 1.00

00:19:38.660 specifically. But I think more so maybe diplomatically from these moves, what they're doing to everybody

00:19:43.140 around the world. I mean, let's play the devil's advocate there, because you have to look at it from

00:19:47.140 Trump's perspective, right? It's like, there are all of these criminals in their country,

00:19:51.220 and they don't want them there, right? I used to work in the Canadian Department of Immigration,

00:19:54.900 I was a press secretary under the Harper government. And one of the problems Canada has,

00:19:58.580 too, is it's very hard to deport people who have destroyed their documentation. So if someone comes

00:20:03.860 to Canada, burns their passport, or flushes it, or destroys it, and then it's time to deport them,

00:20:08.580 the country that you're deporting them to has to actually issue a new passport. And if they're not

00:20:12.020 inclined to, they'll just say no. In a country like Canada, you don't really have a lot of recourse,

00:20:15.860 right? You can say, okay, we're going to slap, like, you know, there's different ways that you

00:20:19.460 can try to get them to do what you want. We're going to slap a visa on your nationals, so they 1.00

00:20:24.420 have to get a visa now. Or, you know, just do things that will annoy them. But when you're the

00:20:28.260 United States of America, and the global economy depends on you, you have a lot more leverage and

00:20:33.380 a lot more power. And, you know, you have Canada, the response being, let's set up a regulatory framework

00:20:38.740 here, and let's create a new government program. Whereas you have Trump on the other hand,

00:20:43.060 like, texting from a golf course, like in between holes, saying, take your people,

00:20:48.500 or you're going to feel my wrath. And I respect that. Like, I think, hey, you know, you got to do

00:20:54.660 what you got to do. The people are sick of feeling like no one's looking out for them, that their best

00:20:59.780 interests are not being held in top of mind, that the world is run by shadow elites and forces like the 0.93

00:21:06.260 WEF. And there you have Trump saying, no, if you don't take your people back, you're going to pay the

00:21:12.500 price, not just through tariffs, but also just canceling visas for the family members of the

00:21:17.060 regime, I thought was hilarious. Like, I just think that these are real issues. And I think,

00:21:25.060 you know, this is the way you get stuff done.

00:21:27.940 I don't disagree with his move on Colombia, not even a little bit. I think that it's,

00:21:34.340 I think the difference is that he's put Canada in the same category and Canadians are going to suffer

00:21:38.260 at scale because of it because of bad governance. So this is a direct issue with Colombia. Yes,

00:21:43.060 they're gonna now they're accepting all their immigrants back, their own people rather than 1.00

00:21:46.420 their nationals. I'm totally on board with that. What is what what I find to be the diplomatic issue,

00:21:51.460 or what I think is going to be the bigger problem is that he's put Canada in the exact same category.

00:21:56.180 And like I said, first, like Liam said, it's a two way problem. You've got them doing the same thing to

00:22:01.860 us with the open border situation. But the other thing is Canadians are going to suffer at scale because of

00:22:07.700 this, because it's such a big part of our economy. So sure, he doesn't like what's happening. And

00:22:10.980 sure, he doesn't like probably the Liberal government or Trudeau. I mean, who does right

00:22:14.180 now? I can agree with that. But this will affect all Canadians. And it could be for you know, what is

00:22:19.220 it five, six, seven months a year depends how long he does this. So I do think that there is some

00:22:23.220 diplomatic fallout and some hard feelings that come from Canadians. So I'm not sure. And again,

00:22:27.940 back to my point earlier, we can't solve this problem in three days. So it's coming.

00:22:31.140 Yeah, I think I'll just add one thing and then I'll get you to jump in on it to Liam. Like, for me,

00:22:36.260 Canada and United States have a special relationship. We're very similar countries.

00:22:39.460 And the more we lean into that friendship and that relationship, I think the better off we

00:22:43.140 both are. Like, I would rather have a very secure North or North American perimeter where none of us

00:22:48.740 let fentanyl in and none of us let terrorists in. And we have like incredibly strict rules. And then a

00:22:53.780 more open laissez-faire internal border where we allow free trade, free movement of people. I think

00:22:58.820 Kevin O'Leary has been touching on some great ideas and issues about like using the same dollar and

00:23:03.860 having kind of like an EU type passport where you can work and live in either place, depending on

00:23:08.180 where you like better. But the idea is, especially under Trudeau, but this is something that's been

00:23:14.020 happening in Canada for generations now. Canadians kind of have a chip on their shoulder when it comes

00:23:18.180 to Americans. They think they're superior and they like to define themselves in an anti-American way.

00:23:22.500 At least the Canadian elites, the Laurentian elites, you've seen Trudeau out many times saying,

00:23:26.820 you know, Canadian identity is just not American. And I don't think it helps. I don't think that Americans,

00:23:32.020 first of all, I don't think they're very clued in on the fact that a lot of Canadians don't like

00:23:35.540 Americans very much. But I think we have an opportunity to like lean in on the special

00:23:39.860 relationship, create a new bilateral friendship. I had JJ McCullough, who's a popular YouTuber on

00:23:46.020 the show last week, and he said like, we need to ditch Mexico. Like, this is like cut Mexico out.

00:23:50.660 They can deal with their own issue. They have a unique problem with their border and their, you know,

00:23:54.580 flow, huge, huge flow of migrants coming up across the southern border for the states. Canada's issues

00:24:00.500 are different. Let's get back to like one-on-one relationship. What do you think about that,

00:24:05.940 Liam? I completely agree. Just the harsh reality is that with our current leadership, that's just

00:24:12.580 not a possibility. Like you said, a lot of the Laurentian elites just claim the whole Canadian

00:24:18.580 identity is anti-American. Actually, Peterson just did a good article in the National Post about that,

00:24:27.140 about the Canadian elitism driving Alberta especially into the hands of Donald Trump and such.

00:24:34.340 But this very much goes to the broader ideology that is driving the Liberal Party. You know,

00:24:41.300 you mentioned that they seemingly have one solution to everything, which is more socialism. And that's

00:24:48.580 100% true. If you look at the ideology that is driving these people, a lot of it has come out of the

00:24:55.060 Fabian Socialist group. That's a lot of what's driving the World Economic Forum and such. And one

00:25:00.740 of the main idea behind the Fabian Society was to bring about socialism, but not through revolutionary

00:25:09.380 means, but through long-term reform. And that's exactly what you're seeing with the open border

00:25:15.700 policies, because the socialists believe that it should be a worldwide revolution. So bring down the

00:25:21.780 borders and then we can bring socialism to all these states. That's what you're seeing with a lot of

00:25:26.420 even these climate change payments and stuff. It's trying to redistribute wealth from rich countries

00:25:32.340 into the poor countries. Where I'm going with this is just that's the ideology these people live within.

00:25:37.780 That's the reality that the Trudeau camp is in. So trying to get that group, which believes that there

00:25:45.140 should be this worldwide socialist revolution to now all of a sudden take a pro national stance when

00:25:52.900 you've got, you know, Trudeau in 2015, telling the New York Times that Canada could be the first post

00:25:58.740 nationalist state again, a nation, sorry, supersede nations that Canada doesn't even exist as a nation

00:26:06.020 anymore. To get him to all of a sudden be on pro team Canada. Like I just don't see that happening at

00:26:12.980 all. And that's one of my biggest worries with this economic warfare and why they're seemingly

00:26:20.900 buckling down in welcoming it and just trying to avoid the real solution is because I think this

00:26:28.260 will grant them a lot like the emergency crisis to just continue on in power. And once the prorogation

00:26:35.380 ends, they can skirt more non confidence votes by declaring a state of economic emergency.

00:26:41.300 And so that's I don't know, it's a very cynical view. But until until we get new leadership in

00:26:48.100 Canada, I really don't see any of those solutions being implemented.

00:26:51.860 Oh, I couldn't agree more. I think that for sure, the whole idea that you know, the Globe and Mail

00:26:56.260 story that we reported on Ottawa planning pandemic level relief for workers and businesses, if Trump

00:27:02.660 imposes tariffs, we say, like, this is like the liberal dream, right? It's like another fake COVID

00:27:08.260 emergency where we can just pay Canadians in the lead up to a federal election. I've noticed that

00:27:13.940 the liberals are actually polling upwards or trending upwards in the polls, which is kind of

00:27:18.020 terrifying for people who've been paying attention. It's like, I saw the liberals tank in the polls,

00:27:24.020 and that was justice because of how like horribly they've run our country for the last decade. Now

00:27:29.460 they're floating this idea that, hey, it doesn't matter if Trump issues these tariffs, we're just going to

00:27:33.380 pay you. We're just going to pay you just like we did during COVID. It's so cynical. And I, you know,

00:27:38.900 I hope Canadians see through it. Hey, guys, I want to tie this to some reporting that I noticed on your

00:27:44.660 page about how Canada has become a playground for criminals. So this goes to the idea that we don't

00:27:50.100 really keep good track of who's coming going in our country. Maybe it's part of a deliberate plan by

00:27:55.860 the Liberal government to like undermine our national unity and national security. But I have this clip that

00:28:00.740 I found through you guys of India's foreign minister, basically that saying that Canada's

00:28:06.740 biggest Canada is India's biggest problem when it comes to Sikh separatism and terrorism. And

00:28:12.820 basically that Canada intentionally welcomes like the worst of the worst people. And we don't we don't

00:28:17.620 monitor it. So let's play that clip. Number of people with organized crime links from Punjab

00:28:24.100 have been made welcome in Canada. We have been telling Canada saying, look, these are wanted

00:28:30.420 criminals from India, you have given them visas, you let they have come many of them in false 1.00

00:28:35.300 documentation. And yet you allow them to live there. If you decide to import for political purposes,

00:28:42.660 people with very dubious, actually very negative background, there will be issues. You know,

00:28:48.020 they have in some cases created problems in their own country as a result of their own policies.

00:28:54.580 So I mean, that's that's someone from India who gets it saying, you know,

00:28:57.620 you guys are letting in our worst people. I think you could say the same thing about so 0.64

00:29:01.460 many countries like my husband's family is originally from Iran. And there's always stories

00:29:05.620 in the Persian community in Toronto of like regime officials and people who carried out massacres

00:29:10.420 in Iran, like living nice lives in the suburbs driving fancy cars. It's like how did they even get 1.00

00:29:15.300 visas to come here? What are they doing in our country? I think you probably say that about so many

00:29:19.380 adversarial states. So guys, why don't you tell us a little bit about your reporting and your thoughts on this issue?

00:29:24.100 You want to take that? Sure. So I think, yeah, it's terrible. It's not just

00:29:31.300 necessarily organized crime from Punjab, but also from China and the Mexican Sinaloa cartel,

00:29:38.100 which we know is allied very well with the CPP or sorry, CCP. Sam Cooper has done excellent reporting

00:29:46.100 reporting on this. But the intertwining of organized crime within Canada is extremely concerning. Even

00:29:54.980 Luke Sabrin points it out in our CBSA whistleblower as well, that he he believes a large majority of the

00:30:03.140 higher ups at the CBSA have been compromised by organized crime. And a good example is even the

00:30:13.140 head of I can't remember his name. But the head of it was the big circle boys, which is the narco group 1.00

00:30:21.220 out of China. They're bigger than Pablo Escobar ever was in terms of volume of drugs being moved and

00:30:28.420 revenue. And he was operating out of Markham. He was living in Markham for years. And he ended up getting

00:30:36.020 detained in Australia, but he was living here. And, and this is this is intertwined to with the, the money

00:30:44.260 laundering cases with the TD Bank, they got fined billions for essentially facilitating money laundering.

00:30:51.620 A lot of that money ends up getting pushed into politics as well. A crazy story that Sam Cooper reported

00:31:00.660 on was how Bill Blair essentially let a warrant for a criminal that was involved with organized

00:31:11.940 crime sit on his desk for over 50 days delaying it because he was a liberal party power broker because

00:31:19.620 these guys have like, again, when we're talking about billions of dollars of fines and stuff, the actually at one

00:31:25.780 point it was estimated the Sinaloa cartel was making $3 million a day in Canada. And so like, this is a

00:31:32.020 major, there's a lot of money being tossed around here. And these groups then weaponize these diaspora

00:31:38.340 groups, whether it be the Sikhs, you know, pushing the the Sikh community to vote a certain way. We've also

00:31:46.500 seen it with the Chinese diaspora. And so they funnel money through these communities it back into

00:31:53.220 politics. And so the web is very deep when it comes to organized crime in Canada. And yeah,

00:31:59.860 I think this is a lot of what is causing the alarm bells for Trump and his team in America.

00:32:07.620 Well, it seems like this is exactly the problem they're talking about. And it's like, why does it

00:32:11.220 take an external force like the United States president to point all this out and to bring it

00:32:15.860 to urgency? Like, why isn't this top of mind for the Trudeau government? I'll loop this in with the

00:32:20.740 foreign interference report that was just tabled yesterday. So as viewers know, we talked about a

00:32:25.940 little bit on the show, but we can talk about it a bit more. The foreign interference inquiry called

00:32:30.900 for the government to monitor more online activities. So that was what they basically, you know, after all

00:32:36.660 of this, after two years of feeding the Canadians stories about how there were supposedly traitors

00:32:43.220 and people willfully and unwillfully acting in like in support of foreign adversarial regimes,

00:32:50.980 you know, the reports finally tabled and they just found that there were no bad faith actors,

00:32:56.500 concludes this report. So this is from the True North reporting. Speaking at a press conference

00:33:02.980 following the report's release, Hoag commissioner, who's the justice that authored this 900 page report,

00:33:09.540 said that while the outcomes of the two previous elections were not affected by foreign interference,

00:33:14.740 there is a possibility that some ridings were affected in a small way during the nomination

00:33:19.300 contest. And of course, this links back to the idea that we're having a liberal leadership race

00:33:22.580 right now. The Liberal Party is sort of notoriously fast and loose when it comes to the rules around

00:33:28.260 this kind of thing. You don't even have to pay or do like give your full name and address to be a

00:33:33.460 member. You just do it online. So I'm going to just play you two clips. So the first clip here

00:33:38.340 is Canadian leaders basically out and saying that parliamentarians are engaging in foreign

00:33:45.140 interference and acting at the will of foreign governments. Let's play that clip.

00:33:49.460 I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and or candidates

00:33:58.020 in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged or at high risk of or for whom there is clear

00:34:12.340 intelligence around foreign interference.

00:34:14.580 The MPs that are involved, wittingly or unwittingly, are they traitors to Canada?

00:34:18.820 What they're doing is unethical. It is in some cases against the law. And it is indeed,

00:34:26.980 they are indeed traitors to the country.

00:34:28.500 Are you certain, and I described it initially as fewer than a handful of current members of parliament

00:34:36.500 have allowed themselves, and again, going back to the original comments from thesis, semi-wittingly

00:34:43.300 or wittingly allowed themselves to become compromised.

00:34:51.460 Okay. So that was what we heard before. And sorry to the viewers. I usually give a trigger

00:34:55.620 warning when I play Justin Trudeau because so many people will tell me, just don't play him or tell me

00:35:00.260 before so I can mute it because they just like, they can't stand the sound of his voice or, you know,

00:35:05.060 the lies that he's been telling. So anyway, that, that was like the preview of this report, right?

00:35:09.540 So these, these leftist politicians are saying, and this is something, we've got something here.

00:35:13.540 We've got the names of the parliamentarians. And then this report comes out and it doesn't

00:35:17.940 really say that at all. In fact, it says the opposite. So here is a clip of Commissioner Hogue

00:35:23.140 basically just saying nothing to see here, folks.

00:35:26.420 Although a few situations involving attempts to curry favor or develop problematic relationships

00:35:32.420 with the parliamentarian have come to light, such phenomena remain marginal and so far appear to

00:35:40.580 have been ineffective. Some may have benefited from the support of a foreign state, sometimes without

00:35:47.940 knowing about it. But again, thus far, this does not seem to have led to any real gains for the states

00:35:56.900 involved. Nor have I seen any evidence to suggest that there are currently so-called traitors in

00:36:06.100 parliament. So to me, this was all just kind of let down. We know this stuff is happening. We know to

00:36:13.380 the points that Liam was making a minute ago that there are all kinds of really bad people that have

00:36:18.020 been let into our country. Many of them making tremendous amounts of money, many of them involved

00:36:22.180 with foreign governments that wish us harm. We know they're here. We know that many of them do

00:36:26.580 fund our politics. But when it came to this report that, you know, dove through, spent lots and lots

00:36:31.460 of money, lots and lots of time trying to find evidence, they basically just shrug their shoulder

00:36:34.900 and say, nothing here, folks. So, Jonathan, what do you make of all this?

00:36:39.460 It's very frustrating. First, it's tough when you have a public inquiry that's mostly held in private.

00:36:44.900 That's a little confusing for the people of Canada. And it's either the politicians are lying,

00:36:49.380 or Hogue in her report is, let's call it lying. Now, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt,

00:36:55.940 try to steel man her argument. And, you know, one of the things that came up when she was going

00:37:00.340 through this inquiry is that they kept a lot of information, they redacted a lot of information,

00:37:06.020 like they only gave her like 20 or 30% of all of the files that were available. Now, if it stayed at

00:37:11.140 that, and that's all she got, I can sort of give her the benefit of the doubt. But I'm just trying to be

00:37:16.260 charitable. Because the reality is, if there was no foreign interference, then why would her

00:37:21.300 recommendation be to have a sweeping censorship body that's now controlled by the federal government?

00:37:26.340 So if it's not a problem, why do you now need a federal body that censors the internet to make

00:37:31.940 sure that I thought it wasn't an issue? So the two things sort of contradict each other. I also found

00:37:37.140 it to be frustrating that, you know, you've got your intelligence agency that is saying, hey,

00:37:42.420 these things are happening. Her first report that came out months ago is saying, hey, yes,

00:37:46.020 these things, some, like you said, some writings are compromised. So if some are compromised,

00:37:50.260 how can you say that the election wasn't compromised? Now you come out with this report at the end of it

00:37:54.420 all, to say that no, the intelligence agencies were wrong, all those politicians we just watched on

00:37:58.580 camera, they were wrong. And the only thing we need to do is censor more Canadians. It's just 100% BS. 0.78

00:38:04.260 Like, you know, Liam actually mentioned something to me the other day when we were having this

00:38:07.380 conversation. Hogue used to work at a law firm in Quebec that was either owned or operated with

00:38:15.060 Jean Chrétien and Pierre Trudeau. So she's bought and paid for. That's how I feel about this.

00:38:19.860 Well, I mean, it's really something. And again, you know, we're talking about how

00:38:23.460 the liberals always want to implement like a national program to pay people. It's just like another way of

00:38:28.100 having socialism. It's also like they always are looking for opportunities to crack down on so-called

00:38:33.300 misinformation, disinformation, anything that goes against the regime's narrative. We saw,

00:38:38.260 it's like everything from the COVID playbook is coming back and being used again. Like, yeah,

00:38:43.540 I don't understand how censoring the internet and cracking down on dissident voices is really the

00:38:48.340 same thing as all of these criminals acting in Canada and their involvement in political campaigns.

00:38:54.180 We know this because the foreigners themselves are much more open often in talking about this.

00:38:59.300 Liam, do you have any thoughts on all this?

00:39:01.060 Yeah, well, when it comes to the foreign interference, I have no idea how you can 1.00

00:39:06.020 say that there isn't MPs working with foreign nations. So for instance, one of the most egregious

00:39:11.700 examples is Han Dong, right? He was the center of a scandal that was accusing the CCP of bussing

00:39:19.460 foreign Chinese students into his riding to vote for him in the in the election. And then so that's one

00:39:27.060 case actually, sorry, and then with him as well, he was also advising China to hold on to Canadian

00:39:32.420 hostages, or people that were arrested in China that were being used as political leverage, essentially,

00:39:38.820 to benefit the Liberal Party. So you've got those two accusations being held against him, he's still

00:39:44.740 sitting as an MP, which is wild that, you know, he stepped down from the Liberal Party and said, well,

00:39:50.420 I don't want to tarnish the Liberal Party's reputation.

00:39:55.380 Okay. And then you've also got say guys like Stephen Gubo, he sits as the executive vice chairperson

00:40:04.340 of a organization called the CCICED. So it's the the China Council for International Cooperation on

00:40:13.460 Environment and Development. And so it says the first sentence on their website is, we have been a

00:40:20.340 platform for cooperation and policy development between Chinese and international researchers.

00:40:26.420 So this is an organization, it's, it's a united front organization, which China uses to manipulate 0.98

00:40:33.140 foreign nations. But even I gave up when I counted 21 Chinese Communist Party members sitting on the

00:40:40.020 board of this organization. And then there's just Stephen Gubo in amongst all of these CCP members,

00:40:46.740 in the whole idea behind this organization is to collaborate on policy, right? So of course,

00:40:53.780 he's bringing in policy from this organization, which is, again, China Council. And then another

00:41:01.060 egregious example is, Sam Cooper uncovered this one as well is that David Eby gave $20,000 grant-

00:41:10.420 Eby's the Premier of British Columbia for those who don't know.

00:41:13.380 David Eby's the Premier of British Columbia to another united front tied organization,

00:41:20.180 which then which came in the with the bow wrapped of DEI and, you know, trying to bring forward

00:41:28.580 multiculturalism and stuff. But it ended up essentially being a bribe, because I mean, that's,

00:41:35.700 that's a strong word to toss it up. But the way I look at it is a bribe, because immediately after that,

00:41:42.100 Ding Guau, who was the one of the heads of that organization, starts being very favoritism towards

00:41:51.460 David Eby in the diaspora media within that, within the BC area. So like, okay, we give this,

00:41:59.460 these companies, these organizations grants, and then these organizations turn around and start trying

00:42:03.860 to mobilize diaspora communities to favor a certain party. It's like, you're telling me there's no foreign 0.81

00:42:09.460 influence here at all, like, even, and that's just three examples. But I think it goes, I think it

00:42:14.980 goes pretty deep. And, you know, there's, there's countless people that have been named on that front.

00:42:20.740 I mean, I'm sorry, what an absolute mess. Like, the more details that you hear about these stories,

00:42:24.580 the more you just think, like, how can Canada's democracy even survive when you have this many

00:42:29.300 foreign actors meddling in different areas, and you have like a polite elite that are too,

00:42:33.780 like, cautious or too concerned to even point it out or be real about it. That makes me like a lot

00:42:40.660 more cynical. Liam, I'll blame you for that. I did see something that I liked out of Quebec. I don't

00:42:48.500 usually point out Quebec politicians and say, like, we need more of this. But in this case, we do. I think

00:42:53.860 when it comes to immigration, and particularly protecting cultural heritage, it's just something

00:42:58.740 that the French get better, they get the Quebecers understand, I think more, or they're more willing

00:43:03.620 to talk about it than the rest of us in English Canada. But Quebec, the government over there

00:43:09.700 tabled a social contract bill for immigrants amidst cuts to integration programs. So on Tuesday, Quebec's

00:43:17.700 Minister of Immigration and French Language, Jean-Francois Roberge, told reporters that immigrants must

00:43:24.660 accept Quebec's values, and they must contribute to society. You don't hear Canadian politicians

00:43:30.740 talking like this very often. I'm going to play this clip, because like I said, I think it's fantastic.

00:43:35.620 Let's play that clip.

00:43:36.340 With our plan, with our bill, we will be pretty clear. We are a nation. We have a culture. We have some

00:43:48.100 democratic values. Men and women are equal. And people coming here must accept that. And after,

00:43:59.540 we want them to contribute to the society. So this is completely new. And this is really different

00:44:07.060 from what the Canada is saying.

00:44:11.780 Like when he says it, you're like, yeah, obviously. Like, why is that even something that a politician has

00:44:16.500 to go out and say? But then you think about it, and you're like, I don't hear anyone else talking

00:44:20.020 like that. I don't hear anyone like this. Something so basic that when you come to Canada, you have to

00:44:24.340 respect our values, our rules, basic things like men and women are equal. I think he's talking

00:44:29.300 specifically to some, presumably in like Islamist communities that believe in the subordination

00:44:34.580 of women, want women to cover their heads and faces. Basically just saying, no, come to Canada, 0.99

00:44:40.260 contribute, get a job, contribute, and learn to be Canadian. Carl Vallée, who's a conservative

00:44:46.260 operative out in Quebec, he writes on Axie says, we simply want to conserve and protect our language,

00:44:52.260 our culture, and our values. We will never apologize for our history. We will celebrate it

00:44:56.900 in a way that is the essence of conservatism. I completely agree. I'd like to just see a lot more

00:45:03.140 of that. I know back in 2019, during the conservative leadership race, Kelly Leach was making these points,

00:45:08.820 and the media and the press treated her like a total pariah, like that she was just like a total 0.99

00:45:12.900 racist. But really what she was just saying was so basic. Like if you come to Canada, you have to

00:45:18.100 embrace our values. Canada needs to do a lot more on this front. What do you think, Jonathan?

00:45:24.020 Yeah. I mean, I think what's happening is the Overton window sort of shifting, right? So in America,

00:45:29.140 because their politics are polarized. So if you go further left, I go further right. What that creates

00:45:34.580 is a very wide Overton window. Pretty much everything's up for discussion, right?

00:45:38.580 In Canada, however, our politics are magnetized. Sorry, I'm reversed. So like if a party moves left,

00:45:44.340 the party in power is the one that always moves the needle. So if the liberals are moving left,

00:45:47.860 the NDP has to move further left and basically become socialist. They're pretty much self-proclaimed

00:45:52.260 socialists these days. But it also shifts conservatives into the center, which is a lot of

00:45:55.940 what we're seeing today. Conservatives in a lot of ways are very much liberals of the 90s. But what that

00:46:00.180 does is it keeps a more narrow Overton window. So an Overton window is pretty much acceptable

00:46:05.140 political speech within society, issues that we will debate. So in Canada, because it's more narrow,

00:46:11.700 because you can shift voters from one side to the other much easier than you do in the United States.

00:46:15.780 So this is why it's a little tighter. But what's happening right now, and why this didn't work out

00:46:19.940 for the politician in the previous election in Canada, is because it was basically unacceptable.

00:46:24.260 It's like a lot of things that you're hearing from like the PVC party in Canada. You know,

00:46:30.020 anything he was saying was, sorry, his name has just slipped my mind.

00:46:33.220 Maxine Bernier.

00:46:34.180 Yeah, Maxine Bernier. So anything he was saying was seen as extremist almost,

00:46:39.300 just because it was a little too far outside the Overton window, where people like us would probably

00:46:42.740 agree with a number of those things. But it was not really acceptable within society. So what's happened

00:46:47.460 now, and I pretty much have to give Trump credit for this, is that he has opened the Overton window in

00:46:52.820 the West, to push back against a lot of the immigration, and a lot of the, you know, for 0.94

00:46:58.100 lack of a better term, lack of assimilation within your community, people are not people are not 1.00

00:47:01.300 becoming a part of Canada anymore. In fact, they're coming over such high volume in these droves where

00:47:05.860 they just implement their own culture. And, you know, the problem you have with that,

00:47:09.540 multi ethnicity is not a problem. Multiculturalism though can be. And the reason is because if you don't 1.00

00:47:14.500 give people a time to sort of assimilate into your community, what happens is you you have one ship,

00:47:19.060 it's Canada, but now you've got five different cultures here that are all trying to 0.99

00:47:22.740 steer it in a different direction. So inevitably, what happens, you're gonna have conflict,

00:47:26.500 that is the only way that this plays out. So to have society be in harmony, you need calm,

00:47:31.620 you need a common cultural set of values, doesn't matter where they come from, but they have to sort

00:47:36.580 of see things the same way. So this isn't necessary for harmony within society. And because of Trump,

00:47:41.700 I think now our Overton window has opened a little wider. So now people are starting to jump onto these

00:47:46.420 ideas. There's even a liberal, I think Ruby Dallas, her name, I got that correct. She's running for, 1.00

00:47:52.980 she's running to take the liberal leadership position right now. And she even said, Hey,

00:47:57.620 all legal immigrants, I'm kicking them out of Canada. That's a bold claim, and it's not going 1.00

00:48:01.220 to get done. But this is coming from the Liberal Party. So it shows you that yes, this is not only

00:48:05.460 opening for conservatives, this is opening, this is becoming wide open for all political parties. So

00:48:09.620 I think it's I think it's a net positive. And I think it's necessary to have a safe and harmonious

00:48:13.460 society. I just want to hop in there as well on the on the multicultural front. Pierre Trudeau in 1971

00:48:22.020 was the made Canada the first country in the world to implement a multicultural policy. And what that

00:48:29.700 changed within government at that time was it swapped their entire mindset from, okay, when we take in

00:48:37.700 immigrants, we want to assimilate them to Canadian culture. After that multicultural policy change, 0.76

00:48:44.420 the mindset within government became, when we take in immigrants, we now need to make Canadians respect

00:48:51.700 their culture. And so it was a complete 180 on that front. And again, this this kind of goes to that

00:48:58.580 whole idea of just building a nation without an identity. And I think that's where we're getting to

00:49:05.060 in Canada, especially with now Trump talking about the 51st state and this kind of stuff,

00:49:09.940 is Canada needs to define its identity. This is like a non negotiable at this point. Even to like,

00:49:18.180 I think we need a complete constitutional overhaul as well. Because you look at our Constitution. And

00:49:24.580 right at the beginning of it, it says that Canada is part of the British Empire. Well, what British Empire

00:49:29.780 there is like, that empire doesn't exist anymore. To your point, you said that it was okay, we need

00:49:35.140 to bring them into British or French values. That is largely what drove Canadian identity. But like,

00:49:41.700 that's not a thing anymore. That was to like 140 150 years ago, but it's not today. And so I think that's

00:49:51.540 why you see more and more people getting on board with the idea of becoming America's 51st state is like,

00:49:58.580 there was a recent poll that was by Ipsos, which was 43% of people aged 18 to 35 in Canada would accept

00:50:07.700 American citizenship if it was offered to them. And I think that largely comes from the fact that our

00:50:16.100 culture for the last couple decades, hasn't been setting a positive aim for Canadians and saying this

00:50:23.300 is what it means to be Canadian. This is what this is the part of the group that you can be. It's

00:50:28.020 actually just been trying to destroy that heritage and that identity for the last couple of decades.

00:50:33.380 And so now they look to somewhere like America and go, Hey, I know what it means to be American.

00:50:38.980 Like I could become an American and I would like to be an American. Whereas yeah, they look at Canada

00:50:44.580 and they go, I don't know what it means to be Canadian. Well, there's a certain level of irony to

00:50:49.300 hear the same elites who stood by and did nothing, or in some cases cheered on while they demolished

00:50:56.420 statues of Sir John A. Macdonald, while they, you know, burnt churches to the ground. We're still

00:51:02.660 seeing stories. True North was reporting this week of Egerton, Ryerson and John A. Macdonald's

00:51:08.980 statues being renamed, school districts being renamed. Like they allow for the total destruction

00:51:15.060 of Canadian history. They call this genocidal. They basically just said being Canadian,

00:51:21.060 early Canadians were evil. And look, I don't think that there's anything wrong with an old constitution. I 0.99

00:51:25.300 think that our values are eternal and that we inherited, um, our freedoms from our political

00:51:31.300 ancestors in Europe, there in, in, in England, um, the date back to the Magna Carta. I think that

00:51:36.180 there's a very strong argument that we need to, um, highlight that history even more and teach it and

00:51:40.820 promote it. One thing that the Americans have is they're not afraid. They're not ashamed of their

00:51:44.340 history. Maybe some are on the woke left, but those people have been marginalized in silence because the

00:51:48.420 broad perspective in America is that we like being American. We're excited about it. We think we're pretty good

00:51:53.940 and we do something pretty well in the world. Um, Canadians haven't had that attitude and they've

00:51:58.660 been all on board with the tearing down of our institutions and our culture and, you know,

00:52:02.900 shaming Canadians for what just being here, um, calling us settlers or whatever. Um, and now all

00:52:08.420 of a sudden they want us to stand up to the Americans and say, no, we have our own unique

00:52:12.100 culture and our own unique, own unique heritage. Just like, well, where were you guys, um, over the last

00:52:16.500 five years while that was all, uh, being torn down. Um, it's, I, I, I find that ironic. It's the same

00:52:22.820 kind of thing as like Doug Ford, you know, there's an election happening in Ontario and he's got this

00:52:26.660 Canada is not for sale hat on. Uh, you know, we just spent half the show talking about all the

00:52:30.820 various ways that our, um, officials are corrupted by foreign, um, you know, forces meddling here.

00:52:36.500 And in some cases it very much is for sale and has been. Um, so, so there's just a lot of hypocrisy.

00:52:41.380 I want to go back though, uh, to something you said, Jonathan, which is that the Overton window

00:52:44.980 is shifting. We have some evidence of this in the liberal leadership race. It is

00:52:48.900 great to see, uh, you have the front runners both promising in some way or another to move

00:52:53.700 away from the carbon tax. Both Mark Carney and Christia Freeland have hinted that that's gone.

00:52:57.780 So I think we can all agree that it's been a failed policy and hopefully we're going to move

00:53:01.060 away from this whole green shift and green new deal and start focusing on our natural resources.

00:53:06.180 Obviously the environment is incredibly important, um, but it's not like we have to kill our own

00:53:10.820 industries to protect our environment. Christia Freeland was out there yesterday announcing that

00:53:15.780 if she becomes prime minister, she's going to cut a cabinet in half. So you even have liberals 1.00

00:53:19.940 promising to cut the size of government, uh, to not, to not have such a ridiculously large cabinet

00:53:24.740 like Justin Trudeau has. And then Jonathan, you mentioned Ruby Dalla, who's, uh, really embracing

00:53:30.420 the anti-immigration message. And, you know, she's from Brampton, which I think is the most

00:53:34.580 ethnically diverse riding in Canada. It's actually not very ethnically diverse. It's kind of a monoculture,

00:53:40.260 um, just not white Canadians. It's mostly people from India. Um, although there's other, 0.98

00:53:44.500 other people there as well. I think it's the smallest percentage of white people, um, in a

00:53:48.340 riding. Um, so her constituents, I mean, she's hearing this and she's the one that's coming out

00:53:52.260 strongly saying deport the illegals, sounding a lot like Trump, uh, which led our friend,

00:53:57.300 Joe Warmington, the Toronto Sun to write an article, uh, calling her Canada's female Donald Trump, 0.98

00:54:03.540 ready to take on the president. Former MP Ruby Dalla has distance herself from her federal federal, 0.65

00:54:08.900 fellow, uh, liberal leadership candidates by looking to negotiate with President Trump

00:54:13.140 instead of the punitive counter tariffs. She's vowed to take a similar tough stand

00:54:17.140 on illegal immigration. So Dalla herself liked that article, um, because she posted it on X,

00:54:23.220 um, sharing it, tagging Donald Trump saying, let's make a deal. Canada's Donald Trump,

00:54:28.820 ready to take on the president. There it is. Um, like I'm here for it. I don't know. I'm not going

00:54:34.420 to vote in the liberal leadership race and I don't really like Ruby Dalla that much, but I like the

00:54:38.100 idea that like, there might be an all party consensus now that we want to deport the bad

00:54:42.900 guys. We want to focus on, you know, promoting a strong economy in Canada, getting rid of the

00:54:47.860 carbon tax. Um, and you know, maybe there can be some serious generational change in Canada.

00:54:53.540 Uh, what do you think, Jonathan? Yeah. I mean, I think that's where they,

00:54:56.660 that's the direction we're going, regardless of who comes, whether it's kicking or screaming,

00:55:00.100 or like Pierre Polyev is kind of leading the charge, right? Uh, I think what you're seeing

00:55:03.220 with the liberal leaders is a lot of them are trying to distance themselves from Trudeau's

00:55:06.420 policies. Um, you know, none, none more than Christia Freeland, who was kind of the right-hand 0.84

00:55:11.140 woman for a long time. So for me, the issue I have is I like when a politician changes their mind. 0.65

00:55:15.860 People don't, people often say, oh, you flip flop, but no, no, no. Look,

00:55:18.900 if you get new information and you change your mind, this is, this, this, this tells me that you're

00:55:22.980 rational and open. I like this. This is very positive. However, in her case, she gaslit Canadians for five years

00:55:29.540 and is, and is directly responsible for a lot of the problems we have. So even if she doesn't see

00:55:34.020 the policies the same way today, I can't trust her because of what she's done to this country. 1.00

00:55:37.940 Um, so, but in, in, in kind of shifting back towards the liberal party, I think a lot of them

00:55:41.700 are, like I said, trying to, trying to get themselves as much distance as possible away

00:55:45.540 from Trudeau and these policies. Um, however, it's, it's my opinion that a lot of it is politicking.

00:55:51.460 I'm not sure a lot of these things are really going to come to fruition because of how our political

00:55:54.660 system works under liberal rule. Um, there's still a lot of people within these organizations

00:55:58.900 that I think would, would actually fight it. Um, I'm, I'm of the mind the liberal party needs to

00:56:03.940 step back, rebuild, regroup, and they need some fresh blood. Like I like what Ruby Dallas heads 1.00

00:56:08.340 at. She's one of those people, the first one I've seen that I'm like, Hey, she could actually

00:56:12.340 be a part of the new long-term liberal strategy, but I think they need to get rid of a lot of the

00:56:16.500 old stuffy, you know, Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney types that are going to play this old sort of

00:56:21.940 institutional democracy game. It's like you said, very strong socialism pull towards everything.

00:56:26.580 Like right now they're trying to win an election or they're trying to, they're trying to right now

00:56:30.100 within the party, they're trying to win seats, but eventually, you know, by October, providing

00:56:33.460 they don't pull some sort of emergency measure, um, they're going to be trying to win an election.

00:56:36.500 So they're trying to rebuild brand equity right now. And to me, it's fooling once, you know,

00:56:41.460 I don't trust the liberal party to do all the things that Canada needs right now.

00:56:45.220 It could, there's so many other issues you see, whether it's the DEI stuff, the kids,

00:56:48.420 the stuff they're doing with, with kids and some of the gender stuff and the economics in this

00:56:52.180 country are a total disaster relationship with the U S you, you kind of name it. They've,

00:56:55.620 they've managed to mess it up. So, um, I like that they are shifting their direction and shifting

00:57:00.260 their, their, um, thoughts on a lot of these policies. Um, but I don't think that they've

00:57:05.460 earned our trust yet. So, uh, I do think they need to take a step back and rebuild first.

00:57:10.260 Yeah. I wouldn't trust the liberals as far as I could throw them. I don't think that the liberal

00:57:13.940 party is going to head in the direction that you and I want them to though, Jonathan, I think that

00:57:17.140 they're going to double down, uh, with their elite WEF institutionalists like Mark Carney,

00:57:21.460 who I think will become the next prime minister, uh, last word over to you, Liam.

00:57:25.700 Well, I just want to go, I just want to highlight that when both Carney and Freeland talked about

00:57:32.580 moving away from the carbon tax, they were very specific about the consumer carbon tax.

00:57:38.100 And so what that leads me to believe is they would just try to rebrand the carbon tax and essentially

00:57:45.220 change the system that, okay, if we've been say equally punitive, uh, on the consumer front and

00:57:51.460 the corporate front, we're just going to take the consumer cost and just apply it to the corporate

00:57:57.380 front. And as we all know, market dynamics, like if you incur more costs to the corporation,

00:58:02.980 they're just going to raise the price. So either way it's going to end up on the consumer's lap.

00:58:08.180 And I think it's worth noting that, uh, Mark Carney was just named in a U S committee report

00:58:15.140 six times as being one of the architects of a, this, this comes from his position with the UN as a

00:58:22.420 finance reformer, a climate finance reformer. Um, their whole idea was, is to leverage the

00:58:29.060 institutional investors in the banking world finance, uh, whether it be black rock central banks,

00:58:35.700 uh, Vanguard state street, all of these to use finance to pressure corporations into limiting supply

00:58:44.500 in order to, cause what that does is it drives up the price. People can't afford to consume as much

00:58:50.660 in their idea was, well, if people are consuming less because they can't afford it, that means less

00:58:54.980 carbon emissions. And they called this whole scheme, uh, demand management, which is price fixing.

00:59:01.540 It's global monopolization of price fixing. And they were using, uh, the, the funds that were in the

00:59:08.260 Glasgow finance financial Alliance, which Mark Carney helped build, um, was $130 trillion. That's more

00:59:17.780 than the global annual GDP that these people have finance, like that they can wield financially to

00:59:23.700 weaponize against people that don't follow their agenda. And so Mark Carney was the architect of all

00:59:29.300 of this. I don't believe for a second that a guy that was willing to manipulate financial markets

00:59:34.820 to that degree to international price fix in order to drive down consumption of food, uh, clothing,

00:59:41.780 and also like say flights and such, um, is all of a sudden going to change his mind on the

00:59:49.460 carbon tax. Like he's, he's just going to find a way to rebrand it and push it further.

00:59:54.100 Yeah. And I think Canadians are just done with this. We're done with these elites from these

00:59:58.420 institutions from these purchase of power, uh, you know, telling us to shut down our own industry

01:00:03.540 to be poor while they, uh, you know, jet set around the world and go to these global conferences.

01:00:08.340 Guys, we've got to leave it there. It's been so, uh, great to have you on the show. Really

01:00:11.300 appreciate your time and insight. Everyone go check them out at blender news. We've got great videos.

01:00:15.380 It's Liam DeBoer and Jonathan Harvey. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks.

01:00:20.180 All right, everyone. Thank you so much. That's all the news for today. We'll be back again

01:00:23.940 tomorrow with all the news analysis. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm show.

01:00:27.380 Thank you. And God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - January 30, 2025

Danielle Smith calls for a Canadian BORDER CZAR

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