Danielle Smith calls for a Canadian BORDER CZAR
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Candice Malan talks about the need for a border czar, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith's call for one, and why she thinks Canada needs one. She's joined by Jonathan Harvey and Liam DeBoer, hosts of the Blender Report podcast, to discuss the immigration crisis in Canada.
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm show. We have a great show
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lined up for you today. We have to talk about the most important issue of the day, which
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is Canada's immigration crisis. We have an immigration crisis that has caused a border
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crisis in this country. This has been years and years in the making. I myself and many
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others have been ringing the alarm bell, urging the Trudeau government to take this issue seriously,
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but the Liberals' disastrous immigration policies, our disastrous national security policies
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are finally blowing up in their faces, and it's also blowing up in our faces. So we know
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that the Trump administration continues to make it very clear to us. They are saying to
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fix our borders, to stop allowing terrorists to cross the border, to stop allowing drugs
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and fentanyl to cross the border. Otherwise, we'll face disastrous tariffs. While Trudeau
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continues to ignore these warnings. And meanwhile, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is the only
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political leader calling him out. So we're going to talk about the latest, including
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Danielle Smith's calls to have a border czar in Canada. We desperately need it. We're going
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to talk a little bit about the liberal leadership race. We'll talk about Quebec's new immigration
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and integration bill that they're proposing and all the other big news stories of the day.
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I'm very excited to be joined by two new guests to the podcast. Never had them on before. I'm
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talking about Jonathan Harvey and Liam DeBoer. These two together are the hosts of the Blender
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Report podcast. I love their stuff. I see their videos all over social media. They're always hitting
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the nail right on the head with very pointed discussion and debate when it comes to issues
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like politics, immigration, public policy, and especially corruption. So guys, thank you so much
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for joining the podcast. Great to have you here. Hey, Candace. Thanks for having us on.
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Okay. So let's start with this call from Danielle Smith, Alberta Premier. She's been taking the lead
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when it comes to what I think is the correct approach to dealing with Donald Trump, which is a little bit
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of diplomacy and a little bit of listening to the things that he's saying, right? He wants us to fix
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the border. He wants us to fix our immigration systems, immigration system. These are known issues for
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us. We know that these are creating huge problems. So let's start by playing this clip. This is
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Danielle Smith saying that Canada needs a border czar, similar to what Trump appointed with Tom
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Homan, someone who can help us crack down on the fentanyl, crack down on the illegal immigration.
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Let's play that clip. Let me say it again. The one thing that we can do this week in just the next
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couple of days to have the best chance to avoid tariffs is to show clear and unequivocal action to
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secure the border. This should start with the appointment of a Canadian border czar to work
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with the new American border czar to jointly crack down hard on fentanyl and illegal migrants.
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Is this likely to end the threat of tariffs entirely? I don't think so. I think there will be other
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things that we will need to work on and we will do so. But I am convinced after speaking with dozens
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of elected U.S. representatives, administration officials and the president himself that this is
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the most important first step. Today I reiterated this to the premiers, Minister LeBlanc, Minister
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Wilkinson and Prime Minister Trudeau. And I hope it is acted on by the end of this week before February 1st.
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So there you have it, Smith, taking on the leadership role. Liam, I'll start with you.
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What do you think of Danielle Smith's call there for borders are and what do you make more broadly
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of this entire issue? I don't know if it fully addresses the issue in its entirety because,
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you know, right now the Canada U.S. border is the largest unmanned border on the planet, essentially.
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And one thing that Luke Sabrin, a CBSA whistleblower, detailed in our interview with him is that
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the main issue is that we're first granting a lot of these people asylum and citizenship. And so,
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you know, yes, sure, we can monitor our border more. But the issue is that a lot of these people
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are coming here in the first place. So there's a few famous cases. So a couple of months ago,
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the Ahmed al-Didi case where a ISIS member who was filmed dismembering somebody for ISIS was granted
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Canadian citizenship. We're seeing it all over the place. A lot of instances like that. And so I don't,
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I don't know if really just monitoring the border fixes the issue in its entirety. It seems more like
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a band-aid than anything. Well, you're absolutely right. And it's a decade in the making of Trudeau's
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disastrous immigration policies, not screening people, not vetting them. The idea of asylum
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seekers just being able to walk in. We don't really know who they are. We don't really know
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where they came from. In many cases, their documents are either gone or they've been falsified. They're
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fake. In the interview that you did with that CBSA official, retired official, what was it? He said
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that there was 300,000 missing passports that a terrorist group had stolen blank Canadian passports,
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and we're now using them to issue fake passports. It's kind of unbelievable how broken our system
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is. I don't think that this solution of a border czar will fix everything, but I think it's a step in
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the right direction. What do you think, Jonathan? Well, here's the challenge. I agree with both of
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you that it's a band-aid on a broken leg, but the real problem you have is if it's going to be a border
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czar, are they coming from the federal government? The answer is yes. So if it's a liberal border czar who's
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aligned with liberal policies, which has got us into this mess, really what value is it? So it's
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really nothing more than performative if they do that under the Trudeau government, in my opinion.
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That's true. I think that what Trump wants is action. When I look at the liberal government,
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I just see they're always coming up with federal strategies and always wanting to create new
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bureaucracies and new regulatory schemes to fix a problem, whereas Trump is so action-oriented.
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Right. And so like, I don't know specifically if Tom Homan, who is the American borders are,
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is like, you know, going to be able to fix every single problem when it comes to American
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immigration and poor Southern border. But having like a maverick type character out there defending
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the policies, leading the charges, saying like defending ICE, defending these government agencies
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in the US that get such a bad rap in the media, it is a step in the right direction. I agree that
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probably the liberals would appoint some terrible bureaucrat, but I think that Canada needs to be
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more action-oriented. So the Trump administration has made it quite clear. So the other day we had
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a Commerce Secretary nominee, Howard Lutnig, and he was speaking to a US Senate hearing. He made it
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pretty clear what the Americans are planning to do. So he says here that there's going to be basically
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a two-phase implementation of the tariffs. They're going to have an emergency action that will be
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implemented as early as Feb 1, which is this Saturday. And the purpose of that is to mitigate
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the fentanyl crisis and to stop the flow of deadly drugs into the United States. And then they said
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that they're also looking to study and implement something on Feb 1, or sorry, on April 1st. This
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was what the executive order on day one of Trump's administration focused on, which is, you know,
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we're going to study something and see if we can come up with a better tax policy and tariff policy.
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So that's phase two. Let's play this clip. We have this clip of Commerce Secretary nominee Howard
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Lutnig. The big tariff view is going to be studied and the president launched that in an executive order
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where he asked the Commerce Department and the USTR to study the tariff model long-term. The short-term
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issue is illegal migration and worse, even still, fentanyl coming into this country and killing over
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100,000 Americans. There's no war we could have that would kill 100,000 Americans. The president
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is focused on ending fentanyl coming into the country. You know that the labs in Canada are run
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by Mexican cartels. So this tariff model is simply to shut their borders with respect. Respect America.
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If we are your biggest trading partner, show us the respect. Shut your border and end fentanyl coming into
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this country. So it is not a tariff per se. It is an action of domestic policy. Shut your border and stop
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allowing fentanyl into our country, killing our people. So this is a separate tariff to create action
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from Mexico and action from Canada. And as far as I know, they are acting swiftly. And if they execute it,
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there will be no tariff. And if they don't, then there will be. But it's an action-oriented model.
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That's not the ordinary tariff. The ordinary tariffs need to be studied and examined. And that would start,
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as the EO said, in April. So we're talking about two tariffs here. And he says that if there's swift
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action, we won't bring in the tariff on Feb 1. So in that regard, what Danielle Smith is saying is
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absolutely right that we need to take swift action here. We need to show the Americans that we're
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serious. We don't want fentanyl in our country either. We don't want terrorists in our country
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either. You know, we have, what, three days here, gentlemen, to try to avoid, you know,
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economy crushing tariffs here. What do you think we can do?
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Well, I think one thing that is worth noting as well is the border issue goes both ways. Now,
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I am on the idea that, yes, something definitely needs to be done on that front. But, you know,
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we just saw as well the big cocaine bust that happened in Toronto there with the $83 million
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Go ahead. So with that, either way, things are going both directions. Even a lot of the illegal fire
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arms that are in Canada. It was the Peel Regional Police said 90% of the illegal firearms they come
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into contact with are come from America. And the other 10%, they just don't know because the serial
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numbers are scrubbed. However, they also believe those come from America as well. So I am of the mind
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that Danielle Smith has the right approach, which is a diplomatic approach and going, hey, you know,
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this border issue goes both ways. And maybe we need to stop. Well, both governments have facilitated
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the open border policies for the last four or five years. And so we need to first deal with that issue
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that those policies have created. But that's going to take a team approach, not necessarily just America
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pretending like there's nothing on their end and that it's all coming from Canada south. It's going both
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ways for sure. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, obviously, we're on the same page there. But
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in terms of like, what can we do in the next few days? I'm of the opinion, we're sort of set up for
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failure here because government moves slow. It's what it is like we have increased the size of
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government direct federal workforce under Trudeau by 42%. But this country hasn't gotten any better,
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nothing's moved lower, not more efficient. We're actually just burning more money. So when you look at
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an issue like this, that, you know, agreed team approach, and it's going to be, it's complex.
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It's not just I agree with the idea of a border czar, obviously, if it's going to be liberal, I think
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there's going to be some issues there. But that's only one step, right? These people are looking for
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a solution to stop this thing, which is all the fentanyl trafficking and the illegal migration. We can't
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we can't do that in three days, we can't turn that tap off or on that quickly, because our government
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doesn't really have a handle on these things. So unfortunately, I think whatever our best
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efforts are going to fall short no matter what. And I do think we have sort of a foundational issue
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here, because our federal government is trying to go to war with with Trump over this. And it's an
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unwinnable tariff war, very much bigger player, there's no chance. So I think that their perception
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of the whole thing is still off. Like I think 10%, 20% of their effort, like in not about mobilization,
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but just in terms of how they're politicking. 20% of the politicking effort is towards the border and
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the fentanyl and the other 80% is about managing these tariffs and this tariff war. I think they're
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I think they're just, I think their efforts are going in the wrong direction in a lot of ways for
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something that's very complex, and will take more than well, three days to solve. So I think we're,
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I think we're between a rock and a hard place here, to be honest with you.
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Well, and I just sorry, I just want to add one perspective there as well is that you've got
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Doug Ford and Trudeau both claiming that they're ready to put forward pandemic style spending of
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stimulus in order to save the economy, right? Well, okay, to to Jonathan's point about it being
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20% of the focus being on the border, I'd say it's almost even less than that. Because if they put 1.4
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billion towards the border security, and then on the other aspect, they're talking about 10s of
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billions into stimulus spending. So they're saying, right, this is what we're willing to
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a lot for a trade war. This is what we're willing to a lot for the actual problem.
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Well, the problem with the Liberals is that the the solution to everything that they see is more
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socialism, like they they truly believe that Canadians should have a universal basic income,
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they want to find ways to pay Canadians basically to be subservient. And we saw this during COVID with
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the CERB. It was disastrous for the economy and disastrous for small businesses who just couldn't
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hire people terrible for the psyche of the Canadian people like the idea that it'd be better to just
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stay home and play video games like what does that do to a generation of young men and young women?
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It's like, well, I don't really want to work. I don't really have to. And, you know, we constantly see
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this that they they use an emergency as an excuse, and they're just going to do it again, and again,
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and again. And I really I really fear I mean, when I when I when I look at that pandemic stuff program,
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it's like, hello, you guys bankrupted the country. Like the reason that we're in a cost of living
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crisis is because of rampant immigrant inflation and inflation because you just flooded the money
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supply. You gave everybody tons of cash instead of homes. They're printing money. And these problems
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are all still like spilling out. We're still dealing with it. Jonathan, you mentioned that the
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Trudeau government is kind of trying to respond by playing tough and wanting a trade war. I noticed that
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industry minister François-Philippe Champagne posted this link online showing the a map of the United
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States' largest trading partners. You can see all the purple there is Canada. So it is true that Canada
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that the United States will also suffer from these tariffs. You know, Trump is trying to fix the
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inflation crisis that Biden created in the United States. Adding on these tariffs will make it more
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expensive for Americans. But I think the reality is, it's just going to be much, much, much worse for
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Canadians. So David Knight Legge, who was a former special advisor to the Premier of Alberta, he was
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a guest on Rachel Parker's show here on True North last week. He responded to François-Philippe Champagne's
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tweet there with a long post. I'm going to read part of it here and then I'll get you guys to react. He
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says, the map doesn't tell the story you think it does, Minister. We are under tariff threats because
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your government broke the border and the formerly reliable Canadian offered in our military asylum,
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immigration, security and foreign affairs. The past four years, 90% of all terrorists interacted
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came from Canada. I'll just go on here. He writes that, here's the data behind that picture, Minister.
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Canada's total GDP export dependency on the US is 77%. America's export dependency on us is only 17%
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right? So even though all these states have their largest trading partner being Canada,
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when you look at the total economy, you're only talking about 17%.
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Whereas for us, it's 77%. Their economy is sometimes bigger. We are far, far more dependent
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on them. Almost like 90% of our economy is tied to trade with them. A trade war is going to hurt us
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so much worse. What are the Liberals doing? And why is it that they always want to use the same
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solution to every problem? Well, I think one of the problems is if you change your strategy,
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it's an admission of guilt and politics, which is a fundamental flaw in the organization just in
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general. I actually had the numbers a little lower. I thought it was only around 13% of goods were from
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Canada and America. So like you said, we're going to feel this significantly more. You know, the issues
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we have, when you talk about solutions, you know, sure, we try to wrap up the border issue, but
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we need to be leveraging our natural resources more. I mean, Liam and I were talking about this
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yesterday. We could ramp up oil and LNG production and exporting it pretty significantly over the next
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few months. I know that wouldn't be a silver bullet solution, but it's a step in the right direction.
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We'd be able to ramp up oil and LNG at scale through new pipelines in the next few years, you know,
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three to five, depending on all the regulatory nonsense. And then in terms of our just critical
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minerals and stuff like that, we can be moving on this in less than 12 months. These would make
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a big difference for us because our exports would go through the roof by comparison to what they are
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now. And we could diversify. We know we've got several countries in Europe that already want our
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natural gas. You know, we could be less dependent on the United States. This is crucial. You know,
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they talk about phases. There's two phases for Canada. One is working through this. Two is
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diversifying our exports. Otherwise, we're going to be in this exact same situation again.
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And it's pretty nonsense that we're not already doing this look like Canada should be one of the
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most prosperous nations in the entire world by like, but top three, I would suggest. But we're
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not leveraging our natural resources, because it's all we're kind of operating under this, this green
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agenda, guys, that in my opinion, has got some faulty science behind it. And we're all suffering
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because of it, right. So we've put ourselves in this situation and Trudeau has made it significantly
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worse by refusing to do what's right for this country. But with respect to the United States,
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what I find interesting is Trump is now also talking about abolishing the income tax he was
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talking about. He's talking about a bunch of stuff. But he was looking at a strategy used by McKinley in
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the late 1800s, early 1900s. And McKinley was assassinated in 1901. He was a president that used
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tariffs to rebuild the American economy. But here's the difference. In 1900, tariffs were not a form of
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economic warfare. Because there was a lot more nationalism, there was a lot more domestic
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production. So you use these tariffs, it would support your own economy, people didn't really
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get too upset about it, right. But the problem you have now is, and probably for the last 5060 years,
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tariffs are economic warfare. That's what they're used for. I mean, what did every country in the West
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do to China when it came to EVs, we threw tariffs on them, sometimes 100%. So the understanding or just the
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perception of tariffs is not the same. So I understand that Trump's going, hey, we need
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to do more domestic production, we need to rebuild America, America first. Okay, no problem with that.
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But he's using a weapon that was effective 130 years ago, but it's seen very differently today. So
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when you're using a 25% tariff on Canada, and then the other day, Colombia wouldn't let some of their,
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some immigrants from America back in Colombia that were Colombians, he used the same thing,
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well, I'm going to throw a 25% tariff on you. So what that says to us is, in terms of this being
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economic warfare, you put us in the same boat as Colombia, that's not good for trade relations.
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So I think you're going to have some pretty big issues. And maybe some, some, you know,
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diplomatic problems that drag on from from Trump's, from Trump's move here, like, I think he is going
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to, like, to your point, they are going to suffer, I'm not sure it's going to be from Canadian imports
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specifically. But I think more so maybe diplomatically from these moves, what they're doing to everybody
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around the world. I mean, let's play the devil's advocate there, because you have to look at it from
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Trump's perspective, right? It's like, there are all of these criminals in their country,
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and they don't want them there, right? I used to work in the Canadian Department of Immigration,
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I was a press secretary under the Harper government. And one of the problems Canada has,
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too, is it's very hard to deport people who have destroyed their documentation. So if someone comes
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to Canada, burns their passport, or flushes it, or destroys it, and then it's time to deport them,
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the country that you're deporting them to has to actually issue a new passport. And if they're not
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inclined to, they'll just say no. In a country like Canada, you don't really have a lot of recourse,
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right? You can say, okay, we're going to slap, like, you know, there's different ways that you
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can try to get them to do what you want. We're going to slap a visa on your nationals, so they
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have to get a visa now. Or, you know, just do things that will annoy them. But when you're the
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United States of America, and the global economy depends on you, you have a lot more leverage and
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a lot more power. And, you know, you have Canada, the response being, let's set up a regulatory framework
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here, and let's create a new government program. Whereas you have Trump on the other hand,
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like, texting from a golf course, like in between holes, saying, take your people,
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or you're going to feel my wrath. And I respect that. Like, I think, hey, you know, you got to do
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what you got to do. The people are sick of feeling like no one's looking out for them, that their best
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interests are not being held in top of mind, that the world is run by shadow elites and forces like the
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WEF. And there you have Trump saying, no, if you don't take your people back, you're going to pay the
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price, not just through tariffs, but also just canceling visas for the family members of the
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regime, I thought was hilarious. Like, I just think that these are real issues. And I think,
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I don't disagree with his move on Colombia, not even a little bit. I think that it's,
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I think the difference is that he's put Canada in the same category and Canadians are going to suffer
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at scale because of it because of bad governance. So this is a direct issue with Colombia. Yes,
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they're gonna now they're accepting all their immigrants back, their own people rather than
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their nationals. I'm totally on board with that. What is what what I find to be the diplomatic issue,
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or what I think is going to be the bigger problem is that he's put Canada in the exact same category.
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And like I said, first, like Liam said, it's a two way problem. You've got them doing the same thing to
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us with the open border situation. But the other thing is Canadians are going to suffer at scale because of
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this, because it's such a big part of our economy. So sure, he doesn't like what's happening. And
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sure, he doesn't like probably the Liberal government or Trudeau. I mean, who does right
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now? I can agree with that. But this will affect all Canadians. And it could be for you know, what is
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it five, six, seven months a year depends how long he does this. So I do think that there is some
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diplomatic fallout and some hard feelings that come from Canadians. So I'm not sure. And again,
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back to my point earlier, we can't solve this problem in three days. So it's coming.
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Yeah, I think I'll just add one thing and then I'll get you to jump in on it to Liam. Like, for me,
00:22:36.260
Canada and United States have a special relationship. We're very similar countries.
00:22:39.460
And the more we lean into that friendship and that relationship, I think the better off we
00:22:43.140
both are. Like, I would rather have a very secure North or North American perimeter where none of us
00:22:48.740
let fentanyl in and none of us let terrorists in. And we have like incredibly strict rules. And then a
00:22:53.780
more open laissez-faire internal border where we allow free trade, free movement of people. I think
00:22:58.820
Kevin O'Leary has been touching on some great ideas and issues about like using the same dollar and
00:23:03.860
having kind of like an EU type passport where you can work and live in either place, depending on
00:23:08.180
where you like better. But the idea is, especially under Trudeau, but this is something that's been
00:23:14.020
happening in Canada for generations now. Canadians kind of have a chip on their shoulder when it comes
00:23:18.180
to Americans. They think they're superior and they like to define themselves in an anti-American way.
00:23:22.500
At least the Canadian elites, the Laurentian elites, you've seen Trudeau out many times saying,
00:23:26.820
you know, Canadian identity is just not American. And I don't think it helps. I don't think that Americans,
00:23:32.020
first of all, I don't think they're very clued in on the fact that a lot of Canadians don't like
00:23:35.540
Americans very much. But I think we have an opportunity to like lean in on the special
00:23:39.860
relationship, create a new bilateral friendship. I had JJ McCullough, who's a popular YouTuber on
00:23:46.020
the show last week, and he said like, we need to ditch Mexico. Like, this is like cut Mexico out.
00:23:50.660
They can deal with their own issue. They have a unique problem with their border and their, you know,
00:23:54.580
flow, huge, huge flow of migrants coming up across the southern border for the states. Canada's issues
00:24:00.500
are different. Let's get back to like one-on-one relationship. What do you think about that,
00:24:05.940
Liam? I completely agree. Just the harsh reality is that with our current leadership, that's just
00:24:12.580
not a possibility. Like you said, a lot of the Laurentian elites just claim the whole Canadian
00:24:18.580
identity is anti-American. Actually, Peterson just did a good article in the National Post about that,
00:24:27.140
about the Canadian elitism driving Alberta especially into the hands of Donald Trump and such.
00:24:34.340
But this very much goes to the broader ideology that is driving the Liberal Party. You know,
00:24:41.300
you mentioned that they seemingly have one solution to everything, which is more socialism. And that's
00:24:48.580
100% true. If you look at the ideology that is driving these people, a lot of it has come out of the
00:24:55.060
Fabian Socialist group. That's a lot of what's driving the World Economic Forum and such. And one
00:25:00.740
of the main idea behind the Fabian Society was to bring about socialism, but not through revolutionary
00:25:09.380
means, but through long-term reform. And that's exactly what you're seeing with the open border
00:25:15.700
policies, because the socialists believe that it should be a worldwide revolution. So bring down the
00:25:21.780
borders and then we can bring socialism to all these states. That's what you're seeing with a lot of
00:25:26.420
even these climate change payments and stuff. It's trying to redistribute wealth from rich countries
00:25:32.340
into the poor countries. Where I'm going with this is just that's the ideology these people live within.
00:25:37.780
That's the reality that the Trudeau camp is in. So trying to get that group, which believes that there
00:25:45.140
should be this worldwide socialist revolution to now all of a sudden take a pro national stance when
00:25:52.900
you've got, you know, Trudeau in 2015, telling the New York Times that Canada could be the first post
00:25:58.740
nationalist state again, a nation, sorry, supersede nations that Canada doesn't even exist as a nation
00:26:06.020
anymore. To get him to all of a sudden be on pro team Canada. Like I just don't see that happening at
00:26:12.980
all. And that's one of my biggest worries with this economic warfare and why they're seemingly
00:26:20.900
buckling down in welcoming it and just trying to avoid the real solution is because I think this
00:26:28.260
will grant them a lot like the emergency crisis to just continue on in power. And once the prorogation
00:26:35.380
ends, they can skirt more non confidence votes by declaring a state of economic emergency.
00:26:41.300
And so that's I don't know, it's a very cynical view. But until until we get new leadership in
00:26:48.100
Canada, I really don't see any of those solutions being implemented.
00:26:51.860
Oh, I couldn't agree more. I think that for sure, the whole idea that you know, the Globe and Mail
00:26:56.260
story that we reported on Ottawa planning pandemic level relief for workers and businesses, if Trump
00:27:02.660
imposes tariffs, we say, like, this is like the liberal dream, right? It's like another fake COVID
00:27:08.260
emergency where we can just pay Canadians in the lead up to a federal election. I've noticed that
00:27:13.940
the liberals are actually polling upwards or trending upwards in the polls, which is kind of
00:27:18.020
terrifying for people who've been paying attention. It's like, I saw the liberals tank in the polls,
00:27:24.020
and that was justice because of how like horribly they've run our country for the last decade. Now
00:27:29.460
they're floating this idea that, hey, it doesn't matter if Trump issues these tariffs, we're just going to
00:27:33.380
pay you. We're just going to pay you just like we did during COVID. It's so cynical. And I, you know,
00:27:38.900
I hope Canadians see through it. Hey, guys, I want to tie this to some reporting that I noticed on your
00:27:44.660
page about how Canada has become a playground for criminals. So this goes to the idea that we don't
00:27:50.100
really keep good track of who's coming going in our country. Maybe it's part of a deliberate plan by
00:27:55.860
the Liberal government to like undermine our national unity and national security. But I have this clip that
00:28:00.740
I found through you guys of India's foreign minister, basically that saying that Canada's
00:28:06.740
biggest Canada is India's biggest problem when it comes to Sikh separatism and terrorism. And
00:28:12.820
basically that Canada intentionally welcomes like the worst of the worst people. And we don't we don't
00:28:17.620
monitor it. So let's play that clip. Number of people with organized crime links from Punjab
00:28:24.100
have been made welcome in Canada. We have been telling Canada saying, look, these are wanted
00:28:30.420
criminals from India, you have given them visas, you let they have come many of them in false
00:28:35.300
documentation. And yet you allow them to live there. If you decide to import for political purposes,
00:28:42.660
people with very dubious, actually very negative background, there will be issues. You know,
00:28:48.020
they have in some cases created problems in their own country as a result of their own policies.
00:28:54.580
So I mean, that's that's someone from India who gets it saying, you know,
00:28:57.620
you guys are letting in our worst people. I think you could say the same thing about so
00:29:01.460
many countries like my husband's family is originally from Iran. And there's always stories
00:29:05.620
in the Persian community in Toronto of like regime officials and people who carried out massacres
00:29:10.420
in Iran, like living nice lives in the suburbs driving fancy cars. It's like how did they even get
00:29:15.300
visas to come here? What are they doing in our country? I think you probably say that about so many
00:29:19.380
adversarial states. So guys, why don't you tell us a little bit about your reporting and your thoughts on this issue?
00:29:24.100
You want to take that? Sure. So I think, yeah, it's terrible. It's not just
00:29:31.300
necessarily organized crime from Punjab, but also from China and the Mexican Sinaloa cartel,
00:29:38.100
which we know is allied very well with the CPP or sorry, CCP. Sam Cooper has done excellent reporting
00:29:46.100
reporting on this. But the intertwining of organized crime within Canada is extremely concerning. Even
00:29:54.980
Luke Sabrin points it out in our CBSA whistleblower as well, that he he believes a large majority of the
00:30:03.140
higher ups at the CBSA have been compromised by organized crime. And a good example is even the
00:30:13.140
head of I can't remember his name. But the head of it was the big circle boys, which is the narco group
00:30:21.220
out of China. They're bigger than Pablo Escobar ever was in terms of volume of drugs being moved and
00:30:28.420
revenue. And he was operating out of Markham. He was living in Markham for years. And he ended up getting
00:30:36.020
detained in Australia, but he was living here. And, and this is this is intertwined to with the, the money
00:30:44.260
laundering cases with the TD Bank, they got fined billions for essentially facilitating money laundering.
00:30:51.620
A lot of that money ends up getting pushed into politics as well. A crazy story that Sam Cooper reported
00:31:00.660
on was how Bill Blair essentially let a warrant for a criminal that was involved with organized
00:31:11.940
crime sit on his desk for over 50 days delaying it because he was a liberal party power broker because
00:31:19.620
these guys have like, again, when we're talking about billions of dollars of fines and stuff, the actually at one
00:31:25.780
point it was estimated the Sinaloa cartel was making $3 million a day in Canada. And so like, this is a
00:31:32.020
major, there's a lot of money being tossed around here. And these groups then weaponize these diaspora
00:31:38.340
groups, whether it be the Sikhs, you know, pushing the the Sikh community to vote a certain way. We've also
00:31:46.500
seen it with the Chinese diaspora. And so they funnel money through these communities it back into
00:31:53.220
politics. And so the web is very deep when it comes to organized crime in Canada. And yeah,
00:31:59.860
I think this is a lot of what is causing the alarm bells for Trump and his team in America.
00:32:07.620
Well, it seems like this is exactly the problem they're talking about. And it's like, why does it
00:32:11.220
take an external force like the United States president to point all this out and to bring it
00:32:15.860
to urgency? Like, why isn't this top of mind for the Trudeau government? I'll loop this in with the
00:32:20.740
foreign interference report that was just tabled yesterday. So as viewers know, we talked about a
00:32:25.940
little bit on the show, but we can talk about it a bit more. The foreign interference inquiry called
00:32:30.900
for the government to monitor more online activities. So that was what they basically, you know, after all
00:32:36.660
of this, after two years of feeding the Canadians stories about how there were supposedly traitors
00:32:43.220
and people willfully and unwillfully acting in like in support of foreign adversarial regimes,
00:32:50.980
you know, the reports finally tabled and they just found that there were no bad faith actors,
00:32:56.500
concludes this report. So this is from the True North reporting. Speaking at a press conference
00:33:02.980
following the report's release, Hoag commissioner, who's the justice that authored this 900 page report,
00:33:09.540
said that while the outcomes of the two previous elections were not affected by foreign interference,
00:33:14.740
there is a possibility that some ridings were affected in a small way during the nomination
00:33:19.300
contest. And of course, this links back to the idea that we're having a liberal leadership race
00:33:22.580
right now. The Liberal Party is sort of notoriously fast and loose when it comes to the rules around
00:33:28.260
this kind of thing. You don't even have to pay or do like give your full name and address to be a
00:33:33.460
member. You just do it online. So I'm going to just play you two clips. So the first clip here
00:33:38.340
is Canadian leaders basically out and saying that parliamentarians are engaging in foreign
00:33:45.140
interference and acting at the will of foreign governments. Let's play that clip.
00:33:49.460
I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and or candidates
00:33:58.020
in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged or at high risk of or for whom there is clear
00:34:14.580
The MPs that are involved, wittingly or unwittingly, are they traitors to Canada?
00:34:18.820
What they're doing is unethical. It is in some cases against the law. And it is indeed,
00:34:28.500
Are you certain, and I described it initially as fewer than a handful of current members of parliament
00:34:36.500
have allowed themselves, and again, going back to the original comments from thesis, semi-wittingly
00:34:43.300
or wittingly allowed themselves to become compromised.
00:34:51.460
Okay. So that was what we heard before. And sorry to the viewers. I usually give a trigger
00:34:55.620
warning when I play Justin Trudeau because so many people will tell me, just don't play him or tell me
00:35:00.260
before so I can mute it because they just like, they can't stand the sound of his voice or, you know,
00:35:05.060
the lies that he's been telling. So anyway, that, that was like the preview of this report, right?
00:35:09.540
So these, these leftist politicians are saying, and this is something, we've got something here.
00:35:13.540
We've got the names of the parliamentarians. And then this report comes out and it doesn't
00:35:17.940
really say that at all. In fact, it says the opposite. So here is a clip of Commissioner Hogue
00:35:23.140
basically just saying nothing to see here, folks.
00:35:26.420
Although a few situations involving attempts to curry favor or develop problematic relationships
00:35:32.420
with the parliamentarian have come to light, such phenomena remain marginal and so far appear to
00:35:40.580
have been ineffective. Some may have benefited from the support of a foreign state, sometimes without
00:35:47.940
knowing about it. But again, thus far, this does not seem to have led to any real gains for the states
00:35:56.900
involved. Nor have I seen any evidence to suggest that there are currently so-called traitors in
00:36:06.100
parliament. So to me, this was all just kind of let down. We know this stuff is happening. We know to
00:36:13.380
the points that Liam was making a minute ago that there are all kinds of really bad people that have
00:36:18.020
been let into our country. Many of them making tremendous amounts of money, many of them involved
00:36:22.180
with foreign governments that wish us harm. We know they're here. We know that many of them do
00:36:26.580
fund our politics. But when it came to this report that, you know, dove through, spent lots and lots
00:36:31.460
of money, lots and lots of time trying to find evidence, they basically just shrug their shoulder
00:36:34.900
and say, nothing here, folks. So, Jonathan, what do you make of all this?
00:36:39.460
It's very frustrating. First, it's tough when you have a public inquiry that's mostly held in private.
00:36:44.900
That's a little confusing for the people of Canada. And it's either the politicians are lying,
00:36:49.380
or Hogue in her report is, let's call it lying. Now, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt,
00:36:55.940
try to steel man her argument. And, you know, one of the things that came up when she was going
00:37:00.340
through this inquiry is that they kept a lot of information, they redacted a lot of information,
00:37:06.020
like they only gave her like 20 or 30% of all of the files that were available. Now, if it stayed at
00:37:11.140
that, and that's all she got, I can sort of give her the benefit of the doubt. But I'm just trying to be
00:37:16.260
charitable. Because the reality is, if there was no foreign interference, then why would her
00:37:21.300
recommendation be to have a sweeping censorship body that's now controlled by the federal government?
00:37:26.340
So if it's not a problem, why do you now need a federal body that censors the internet to make
00:37:31.940
sure that I thought it wasn't an issue? So the two things sort of contradict each other. I also found
00:37:37.140
it to be frustrating that, you know, you've got your intelligence agency that is saying, hey,
00:37:42.420
these things are happening. Her first report that came out months ago is saying, hey, yes,
00:37:46.020
these things, some, like you said, some writings are compromised. So if some are compromised,
00:37:50.260
how can you say that the election wasn't compromised? Now you come out with this report at the end of it
00:37:54.420
all, to say that no, the intelligence agencies were wrong, all those politicians we just watched on
00:37:58.580
camera, they were wrong. And the only thing we need to do is censor more Canadians. It's just 100% BS.
00:38:04.260
Like, you know, Liam actually mentioned something to me the other day when we were having this
00:38:07.380
conversation. Hogue used to work at a law firm in Quebec that was either owned or operated with
00:38:15.060
Jean Chrétien and Pierre Trudeau. So she's bought and paid for. That's how I feel about this.
00:38:19.860
Well, I mean, it's really something. And again, you know, we're talking about how
00:38:23.460
the liberals always want to implement like a national program to pay people. It's just like another way of
00:38:28.100
having socialism. It's also like they always are looking for opportunities to crack down on so-called
00:38:33.300
misinformation, disinformation, anything that goes against the regime's narrative. We saw,
00:38:38.260
it's like everything from the COVID playbook is coming back and being used again. Like, yeah,
00:38:43.540
I don't understand how censoring the internet and cracking down on dissident voices is really the
00:38:48.340
same thing as all of these criminals acting in Canada and their involvement in political campaigns.
00:38:54.180
We know this because the foreigners themselves are much more open often in talking about this.
00:39:01.060
Yeah, well, when it comes to the foreign interference, I have no idea how you can
00:39:06.020
say that there isn't MPs working with foreign nations. So for instance, one of the most egregious
00:39:11.700
examples is Han Dong, right? He was the center of a scandal that was accusing the CCP of bussing
00:39:19.460
foreign Chinese students into his riding to vote for him in the in the election. And then so that's one
00:39:27.060
case actually, sorry, and then with him as well, he was also advising China to hold on to Canadian
00:39:32.420
hostages, or people that were arrested in China that were being used as political leverage, essentially,
00:39:38.820
to benefit the Liberal Party. So you've got those two accusations being held against him, he's still
00:39:44.740
sitting as an MP, which is wild that, you know, he stepped down from the Liberal Party and said, well,
00:39:50.420
I don't want to tarnish the Liberal Party's reputation.
00:39:55.380
Okay. And then you've also got say guys like Stephen Gubo, he sits as the executive vice chairperson
00:40:04.340
of a organization called the CCICED. So it's the the China Council for International Cooperation on
00:40:13.460
Environment and Development. And so it says the first sentence on their website is, we have been a
00:40:20.340
platform for cooperation and policy development between Chinese and international researchers.
00:40:26.420
So this is an organization, it's, it's a united front organization, which China uses to manipulate
00:40:33.140
foreign nations. But even I gave up when I counted 21 Chinese Communist Party members sitting on the
00:40:40.020
board of this organization. And then there's just Stephen Gubo in amongst all of these CCP members,
00:40:46.740
in the whole idea behind this organization is to collaborate on policy, right? So of course,
00:40:53.780
he's bringing in policy from this organization, which is, again, China Council. And then another
00:41:01.060
egregious example is, Sam Cooper uncovered this one as well is that David Eby gave $20,000 grant-
00:41:10.420
Eby's the Premier of British Columbia for those who don't know.
00:41:13.380
David Eby's the Premier of British Columbia to another united front tied organization,
00:41:20.180
which then which came in the with the bow wrapped of DEI and, you know, trying to bring forward
00:41:28.580
multiculturalism and stuff. But it ended up essentially being a bribe, because I mean, that's,
00:41:35.700
that's a strong word to toss it up. But the way I look at it is a bribe, because immediately after that,
00:41:42.100
Ding Guau, who was the one of the heads of that organization, starts being very favoritism towards
00:41:51.460
David Eby in the diaspora media within that, within the BC area. So like, okay, we give this,
00:41:59.460
these companies, these organizations grants, and then these organizations turn around and start trying
00:42:03.860
to mobilize diaspora communities to favor a certain party. It's like, you're telling me there's no foreign
00:42:09.460
influence here at all, like, even, and that's just three examples. But I think it goes, I think it
00:42:14.980
goes pretty deep. And, you know, there's, there's countless people that have been named on that front.
00:42:20.740
I mean, I'm sorry, what an absolute mess. Like, the more details that you hear about these stories,
00:42:24.580
the more you just think, like, how can Canada's democracy even survive when you have this many
00:42:29.300
foreign actors meddling in different areas, and you have like a polite elite that are too,
00:42:33.780
like, cautious or too concerned to even point it out or be real about it. That makes me like a lot
00:42:40.660
more cynical. Liam, I'll blame you for that. I did see something that I liked out of Quebec. I don't
00:42:48.500
usually point out Quebec politicians and say, like, we need more of this. But in this case, we do. I think
00:42:53.860
when it comes to immigration, and particularly protecting cultural heritage, it's just something
00:42:58.740
that the French get better, they get the Quebecers understand, I think more, or they're more willing
00:43:03.620
to talk about it than the rest of us in English Canada. But Quebec, the government over there
00:43:09.700
tabled a social contract bill for immigrants amidst cuts to integration programs. So on Tuesday, Quebec's
00:43:17.700
Minister of Immigration and French Language, Jean-Francois Roberge, told reporters that immigrants must
00:43:24.660
accept Quebec's values, and they must contribute to society. You don't hear Canadian politicians
00:43:30.740
talking like this very often. I'm going to play this clip, because like I said, I think it's fantastic.
00:43:36.340
With our plan, with our bill, we will be pretty clear. We are a nation. We have a culture. We have some
00:43:48.100
democratic values. Men and women are equal. And people coming here must accept that. And after,
00:43:59.540
we want them to contribute to the society. So this is completely new. And this is really different
00:44:11.780
Like when he says it, you're like, yeah, obviously. Like, why is that even something that a politician has
00:44:16.500
to go out and say? But then you think about it, and you're like, I don't hear anyone else talking
00:44:20.020
like that. I don't hear anyone like this. Something so basic that when you come to Canada, you have to
00:44:24.340
respect our values, our rules, basic things like men and women are equal. I think he's talking
00:44:29.300
specifically to some, presumably in like Islamist communities that believe in the subordination
00:44:34.580
of women, want women to cover their heads and faces. Basically just saying, no, come to Canada,
00:44:40.260
contribute, get a job, contribute, and learn to be Canadian. Carl Vallée, who's a conservative
00:44:46.260
operative out in Quebec, he writes on Axie says, we simply want to conserve and protect our language,
00:44:52.260
our culture, and our values. We will never apologize for our history. We will celebrate it
00:44:56.900
in a way that is the essence of conservatism. I completely agree. I'd like to just see a lot more
00:45:03.140
of that. I know back in 2019, during the conservative leadership race, Kelly Leach was making these points,
00:45:08.820
and the media and the press treated her like a total pariah, like that she was just like a total
00:45:12.900
racist. But really what she was just saying was so basic. Like if you come to Canada, you have to
00:45:18.100
embrace our values. Canada needs to do a lot more on this front. What do you think, Jonathan?
00:45:24.020
Yeah. I mean, I think what's happening is the Overton window sort of shifting, right? So in America,
00:45:29.140
because their politics are polarized. So if you go further left, I go further right. What that creates
00:45:34.580
is a very wide Overton window. Pretty much everything's up for discussion, right?
00:45:38.580
In Canada, however, our politics are magnetized. Sorry, I'm reversed. So like if a party moves left,
00:45:44.340
the party in power is the one that always moves the needle. So if the liberals are moving left,
00:45:47.860
the NDP has to move further left and basically become socialist. They're pretty much self-proclaimed
00:45:52.260
socialists these days. But it also shifts conservatives into the center, which is a lot of
00:45:55.940
what we're seeing today. Conservatives in a lot of ways are very much liberals of the 90s. But what that
00:46:00.180
does is it keeps a more narrow Overton window. So an Overton window is pretty much acceptable
00:46:05.140
political speech within society, issues that we will debate. So in Canada, because it's more narrow,
00:46:11.700
because you can shift voters from one side to the other much easier than you do in the United States.
00:46:15.780
So this is why it's a little tighter. But what's happening right now, and why this didn't work out
00:46:19.940
for the politician in the previous election in Canada, is because it was basically unacceptable.
00:46:24.260
It's like a lot of things that you're hearing from like the PVC party in Canada. You know,
00:46:30.020
anything he was saying was, sorry, his name has just slipped my mind.
00:46:34.180
Yeah, Maxine Bernier. So anything he was saying was seen as extremist almost,
00:46:39.300
just because it was a little too far outside the Overton window, where people like us would probably
00:46:42.740
agree with a number of those things. But it was not really acceptable within society. So what's happened
00:46:47.460
now, and I pretty much have to give Trump credit for this, is that he has opened the Overton window in
00:46:52.820
the West, to push back against a lot of the immigration, and a lot of the, you know, for
00:46:58.100
lack of a better term, lack of assimilation within your community, people are not people are not
00:47:01.300
becoming a part of Canada anymore. In fact, they're coming over such high volume in these droves where
00:47:05.860
they just implement their own culture. And, you know, the problem you have with that,
00:47:09.540
multi ethnicity is not a problem. Multiculturalism though can be. And the reason is because if you don't
00:47:14.500
give people a time to sort of assimilate into your community, what happens is you you have one ship,
00:47:19.060
it's Canada, but now you've got five different cultures here that are all trying to
00:47:22.740
steer it in a different direction. So inevitably, what happens, you're gonna have conflict,
00:47:26.500
that is the only way that this plays out. So to have society be in harmony, you need calm,
00:47:31.620
you need a common cultural set of values, doesn't matter where they come from, but they have to sort
00:47:36.580
of see things the same way. So this isn't necessary for harmony within society. And because of Trump,
00:47:41.700
I think now our Overton window has opened a little wider. So now people are starting to jump onto these
00:47:46.420
ideas. There's even a liberal, I think Ruby Dallas, her name, I got that correct. She's running for,
00:47:52.980
she's running to take the liberal leadership position right now. And she even said, Hey,
00:47:57.620
all legal immigrants, I'm kicking them out of Canada. That's a bold claim, and it's not going
00:48:01.220
to get done. But this is coming from the Liberal Party. So it shows you that yes, this is not only
00:48:05.460
opening for conservatives, this is opening, this is becoming wide open for all political parties. So
00:48:09.620
I think it's I think it's a net positive. And I think it's necessary to have a safe and harmonious
00:48:13.460
society. I just want to hop in there as well on the on the multicultural front. Pierre Trudeau in 1971
00:48:22.020
was the made Canada the first country in the world to implement a multicultural policy. And what that
00:48:29.700
changed within government at that time was it swapped their entire mindset from, okay, when we take in
00:48:37.700
immigrants, we want to assimilate them to Canadian culture. After that multicultural policy change,
00:48:44.420
the mindset within government became, when we take in immigrants, we now need to make Canadians respect
00:48:51.700
their culture. And so it was a complete 180 on that front. And again, this this kind of goes to that
00:48:58.580
whole idea of just building a nation without an identity. And I think that's where we're getting to
00:49:05.060
in Canada, especially with now Trump talking about the 51st state and this kind of stuff,
00:49:09.940
is Canada needs to define its identity. This is like a non negotiable at this point. Even to like,
00:49:18.180
I think we need a complete constitutional overhaul as well. Because you look at our Constitution. And
00:49:24.580
right at the beginning of it, it says that Canada is part of the British Empire. Well, what British Empire
00:49:29.780
there is like, that empire doesn't exist anymore. To your point, you said that it was okay, we need
00:49:35.140
to bring them into British or French values. That is largely what drove Canadian identity. But like,
00:49:41.700
that's not a thing anymore. That was to like 140 150 years ago, but it's not today. And so I think that's
00:49:51.540
why you see more and more people getting on board with the idea of becoming America's 51st state is like,
00:49:58.580
there was a recent poll that was by Ipsos, which was 43% of people aged 18 to 35 in Canada would accept
00:50:07.700
American citizenship if it was offered to them. And I think that largely comes from the fact that our
00:50:16.100
culture for the last couple decades, hasn't been setting a positive aim for Canadians and saying this
00:50:23.300
is what it means to be Canadian. This is what this is the part of the group that you can be. It's
00:50:28.020
actually just been trying to destroy that heritage and that identity for the last couple of decades.
00:50:33.380
And so now they look to somewhere like America and go, Hey, I know what it means to be American.
00:50:38.980
Like I could become an American and I would like to be an American. Whereas yeah, they look at Canada
00:50:44.580
and they go, I don't know what it means to be Canadian. Well, there's a certain level of irony to
00:50:49.300
hear the same elites who stood by and did nothing, or in some cases cheered on while they demolished
00:50:56.420
statues of Sir John A. Macdonald, while they, you know, burnt churches to the ground. We're still
00:51:02.660
seeing stories. True North was reporting this week of Egerton, Ryerson and John A. Macdonald's
00:51:08.980
statues being renamed, school districts being renamed. Like they allow for the total destruction
00:51:15.060
of Canadian history. They call this genocidal. They basically just said being Canadian,
00:51:21.060
early Canadians were evil. And look, I don't think that there's anything wrong with an old constitution. I
00:51:25.300
think that our values are eternal and that we inherited, um, our freedoms from our political
00:51:31.300
ancestors in Europe, there in, in, in England, um, the date back to the Magna Carta. I think that
00:51:36.180
there's a very strong argument that we need to, um, highlight that history even more and teach it and
00:51:40.820
promote it. One thing that the Americans have is they're not afraid. They're not ashamed of their
00:51:44.340
history. Maybe some are on the woke left, but those people have been marginalized in silence because the
00:51:48.420
broad perspective in America is that we like being American. We're excited about it. We think we're pretty good
00:51:53.940
and we do something pretty well in the world. Um, Canadians haven't had that attitude and they've
00:51:58.660
been all on board with the tearing down of our institutions and our culture and, you know,
00:52:02.900
shaming Canadians for what just being here, um, calling us settlers or whatever. Um, and now all
00:52:08.420
of a sudden they want us to stand up to the Americans and say, no, we have our own unique
00:52:12.100
culture and our own unique, own unique heritage. Just like, well, where were you guys, um, over the last
00:52:16.500
five years while that was all, uh, being torn down. Um, it's, I, I, I find that ironic. It's the same
00:52:22.820
kind of thing as like Doug Ford, you know, there's an election happening in Ontario and he's got this
00:52:26.660
Canada is not for sale hat on. Uh, you know, we just spent half the show talking about all the
00:52:30.820
various ways that our, um, officials are corrupted by foreign, um, you know, forces meddling here.
00:52:36.500
And in some cases it very much is for sale and has been. Um, so, so there's just a lot of hypocrisy.
00:52:41.380
I want to go back though, uh, to something you said, Jonathan, which is that the Overton window
00:52:44.980
is shifting. We have some evidence of this in the liberal leadership race. It is
00:52:48.900
great to see, uh, you have the front runners both promising in some way or another to move
00:52:53.700
away from the carbon tax. Both Mark Carney and Christia Freeland have hinted that that's gone.
00:52:57.780
So I think we can all agree that it's been a failed policy and hopefully we're going to move
00:53:01.060
away from this whole green shift and green new deal and start focusing on our natural resources.
00:53:06.180
Obviously the environment is incredibly important, um, but it's not like we have to kill our own
00:53:10.820
industries to protect our environment. Christia Freeland was out there yesterday announcing that
00:53:15.780
if she becomes prime minister, she's going to cut a cabinet in half. So you even have liberals
00:53:19.940
promising to cut the size of government, uh, to not, to not have such a ridiculously large cabinet
00:53:24.740
like Justin Trudeau has. And then Jonathan, you mentioned Ruby Dalla, who's, uh, really embracing
00:53:30.420
the anti-immigration message. And, you know, she's from Brampton, which I think is the most
00:53:34.580
ethnically diverse riding in Canada. It's actually not very ethnically diverse. It's kind of a monoculture,
00:53:40.260
um, just not white Canadians. It's mostly people from India. Um, although there's other,
00:53:44.500
other people there as well. I think it's the smallest percentage of white people, um, in a
00:53:48.340
riding. Um, so her constituents, I mean, she's hearing this and she's the one that's coming out
00:53:52.260
strongly saying deport the illegals, sounding a lot like Trump, uh, which led our friend,
00:53:57.300
Joe Warmington, the Toronto Sun to write an article, uh, calling her Canada's female Donald Trump,
00:54:03.540
ready to take on the president. Former MP Ruby Dalla has distance herself from her federal federal,
00:54:08.900
fellow, uh, liberal leadership candidates by looking to negotiate with President Trump
00:54:13.140
instead of the punitive counter tariffs. She's vowed to take a similar tough stand
00:54:17.140
on illegal immigration. So Dalla herself liked that article, um, because she posted it on X,
00:54:23.220
um, sharing it, tagging Donald Trump saying, let's make a deal. Canada's Donald Trump,
00:54:28.820
ready to take on the president. There it is. Um, like I'm here for it. I don't know. I'm not going
00:54:34.420
to vote in the liberal leadership race and I don't really like Ruby Dalla that much, but I like the
00:54:38.100
idea that like, there might be an all party consensus now that we want to deport the bad
00:54:42.900
guys. We want to focus on, you know, promoting a strong economy in Canada, getting rid of the
00:54:47.860
carbon tax. Um, and you know, maybe there can be some serious generational change in Canada.
00:54:53.540
Uh, what do you think, Jonathan? Yeah. I mean, I think that's where they,
00:54:56.660
that's the direction we're going, regardless of who comes, whether it's kicking or screaming,
00:55:00.100
or like Pierre Polyev is kind of leading the charge, right? Uh, I think what you're seeing
00:55:03.220
with the liberal leaders is a lot of them are trying to distance themselves from Trudeau's
00:55:06.420
policies. Um, you know, none, none more than Christia Freeland, who was kind of the right-hand
00:55:11.140
woman for a long time. So for me, the issue I have is I like when a politician changes their mind.
00:55:15.860
People don't, people often say, oh, you flip flop, but no, no, no. Look,
00:55:18.900
if you get new information and you change your mind, this is, this, this, this tells me that you're
00:55:22.980
rational and open. I like this. This is very positive. However, in her case, she gaslit Canadians for five years
00:55:29.540
and is, and is directly responsible for a lot of the problems we have. So even if she doesn't see
00:55:34.020
the policies the same way today, I can't trust her because of what she's done to this country.
00:55:37.940
Um, so, but in, in, in kind of shifting back towards the liberal party, I think a lot of them
00:55:41.700
are, like I said, trying to, trying to get themselves as much distance as possible away
00:55:45.540
from Trudeau and these policies. Um, however, it's, it's my opinion that a lot of it is politicking.
00:55:51.460
I'm not sure a lot of these things are really going to come to fruition because of how our political
00:55:54.660
system works under liberal rule. Um, there's still a lot of people within these organizations
00:55:58.900
that I think would, would actually fight it. Um, I'm, I'm of the mind the liberal party needs to
00:56:03.940
step back, rebuild, regroup, and they need some fresh blood. Like I like what Ruby Dallas heads
00:56:08.340
at. She's one of those people, the first one I've seen that I'm like, Hey, she could actually
00:56:12.340
be a part of the new long-term liberal strategy, but I think they need to get rid of a lot of the
00:56:16.500
old stuffy, you know, Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney types that are going to play this old sort of
00:56:21.940
institutional democracy game. It's like you said, very strong socialism pull towards everything.
00:56:26.580
Like right now they're trying to win an election or they're trying to, they're trying to right now
00:56:30.100
within the party, they're trying to win seats, but eventually, you know, by October, providing
00:56:33.460
they don't pull some sort of emergency measure, um, they're going to be trying to win an election.
00:56:36.500
So they're trying to rebuild brand equity right now. And to me, it's fooling once, you know,
00:56:41.460
I don't trust the liberal party to do all the things that Canada needs right now.
00:56:45.220
It could, there's so many other issues you see, whether it's the DEI stuff, the kids,
00:56:48.420
the stuff they're doing with, with kids and some of the gender stuff and the economics in this
00:56:52.180
country are a total disaster relationship with the U S you, you kind of name it. They've,
00:56:55.620
they've managed to mess it up. So, um, I like that they are shifting their direction and shifting
00:57:00.260
their, their, um, thoughts on a lot of these policies. Um, but I don't think that they've
00:57:05.460
earned our trust yet. So, uh, I do think they need to take a step back and rebuild first.
00:57:10.260
Yeah. I wouldn't trust the liberals as far as I could throw them. I don't think that the liberal
00:57:13.940
party is going to head in the direction that you and I want them to though, Jonathan, I think that
00:57:17.140
they're going to double down, uh, with their elite WEF institutionalists like Mark Carney,
00:57:21.460
who I think will become the next prime minister, uh, last word over to you, Liam.
00:57:25.700
Well, I just want to go, I just want to highlight that when both Carney and Freeland talked about
00:57:32.580
moving away from the carbon tax, they were very specific about the consumer carbon tax.
00:57:38.100
And so what that leads me to believe is they would just try to rebrand the carbon tax and essentially
00:57:45.220
change the system that, okay, if we've been say equally punitive, uh, on the consumer front and
00:57:51.460
the corporate front, we're just going to take the consumer cost and just apply it to the corporate
00:57:57.380
front. And as we all know, market dynamics, like if you incur more costs to the corporation,
00:58:02.980
they're just going to raise the price. So either way it's going to end up on the consumer's lap.
00:58:08.180
And I think it's worth noting that, uh, Mark Carney was just named in a U S committee report
00:58:15.140
six times as being one of the architects of a, this, this comes from his position with the UN as a
00:58:22.420
finance reformer, a climate finance reformer. Um, their whole idea was, is to leverage the
00:58:29.060
institutional investors in the banking world finance, uh, whether it be black rock central banks,
00:58:35.700
uh, Vanguard state street, all of these to use finance to pressure corporations into limiting supply
00:58:44.500
in order to, cause what that does is it drives up the price. People can't afford to consume as much
00:58:50.660
in their idea was, well, if people are consuming less because they can't afford it, that means less
00:58:54.980
carbon emissions. And they called this whole scheme, uh, demand management, which is price fixing.
00:59:01.540
It's global monopolization of price fixing. And they were using, uh, the, the funds that were in the
00:59:08.260
Glasgow finance financial Alliance, which Mark Carney helped build, um, was $130 trillion. That's more
00:59:17.780
than the global annual GDP that these people have finance, like that they can wield financially to
00:59:23.700
weaponize against people that don't follow their agenda. And so Mark Carney was the architect of all
00:59:29.300
of this. I don't believe for a second that a guy that was willing to manipulate financial markets
00:59:34.820
to that degree to international price fix in order to drive down consumption of food, uh, clothing,
00:59:41.780
and also like say flights and such, um, is all of a sudden going to change his mind on the
00:59:49.460
carbon tax. Like he's, he's just going to find a way to rebrand it and push it further.
00:59:54.100
Yeah. And I think Canadians are just done with this. We're done with these elites from these
00:59:58.420
institutions from these purchase of power, uh, you know, telling us to shut down our own industry
01:00:03.540
to be poor while they, uh, you know, jet set around the world and go to these global conferences.
01:00:08.340
Guys, we've got to leave it there. It's been so, uh, great to have you on the show. Really
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appreciate your time and insight. Everyone go check them out at blender news. We've got great videos.
01:00:15.380
It's Liam DeBoer and Jonathan Harvey. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks.
01:00:20.180
All right, everyone. Thank you so much. That's all the news for today. We'll be back again
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