The Candice Malcolm Show - DEBUNKING the CBC’s radical trans nonsense

00:00:00.160 Supposed journalists at the CBC are nothing more than radical trans activists.

00:00:04.800 And on today's show, I'm going to walk you through the latest evidence.

00:00:07.920 It's Fake News Friday. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:24.880 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning into the podcast. It's our favorite

00:00:28.240 show here at The Candice Malcolm Show, the Fake News Friday segment. We are bringing it back.

00:00:33.440 I saw this article from the CBC. It is peak CBC. Every single element of this story is just so over

00:00:40.000 the top, so agenda driven, so ideological, so far from doing a service to Canadians by providing them

00:00:47.360 with news. So I figured I would walk you through it in full just to show you what a farce CBC has

00:00:53.440 become. So look, we've been covering this issue a lot on The Candice Malcolm Show and True North

00:01:00.560 overall. I think it's an incredibly important story and revelation in Canadian media, in Canadian

00:01:07.040 public policy, in Canadian life. The fact that a politician, Danielle Smith, has come out with a

00:01:12.320 bold, brave policy to ban surgeries on gender dysphoric children, to ban life-altering sex change 1.00

00:01:20.480 operations. And then seeing how other politicians across the country, namely Pierre Polyev, have

00:01:25.600 followed suit and come along and defended this policy and now double down on that defense is

00:01:30.960 something that would not have happened even a year ago in this country. I think it's a tremendous

00:01:35.520 revelation, something worth covering in deep. So I'll take you back to that day that Danielle Smith

00:01:40.160 announced the policy, which was February 3rd. And our friend Jonathan Kaye pointed this out on Twitter,

00:01:46.880 that this is what the CBC national news page looks like right now. So John Kaye tweets,

00:01:51.600 CBC news editors having the expected meltdown. This is what the national CBC news page looks like

00:01:57.840 right now. And if we can just zoom in a little closer on what that page actually looks like,

00:02:02.880 you can see the stories that they're covering. So the main story on the site is transgender allies in

00:02:07.760 Calgary and Edmonton protests against Alberta's proposed new policies. Danielle Smith says legislation

00:02:12.240 coming this fall. And then all of the other stories on the website. So there's one, two, three, four,

00:02:17.120 five, six other stories. They're all reactions to Danielle Smith. And they're all from the exact same

00:02:22.240 side, which is people who are outraged, people who find this absolutely unacceptable, people who are

00:02:28.720 having a negative reaction. You know, in journalism school, we're taught like tell both sides of the

00:02:33.520 story. I think to the CBC telling both sides of the story means, you know, tell the side of athletes

00:02:39.520 opposing this policy, tell the side of doctors opposing this policy, tell the side of teachers

00:02:44.640 opposing this policy, tell the side of activists opposing the policy. It was literally just all the

00:02:49.840 different sides that oppose the policy. Even though we know that the statistics have come out,

00:02:55.280 they've pulled Canadians. We know that somewhere between 50 and 75 percent of Canadians support Danielle

00:03:01.280 Smith and what she's doing. But from the CBC's perspective, everything about this was a travesty.

00:03:06.480 Every single news story had to focus on how wrong it was that she was doing this. And so this is

00:03:12.480 coming from sort of the same mentality. I stumbled upon the story and I'm going to read it to you

00:03:18.960 pretty much in its entirety. This is what the article looks like. It says, this clinic for gender

00:03:23.840 affirming healthcare went private. The founder wishes it didn't. Floria offers virtual healthcare for

00:03:30.880 trans and non-binary patients in Ontario and Alberta. And then it shows an image here of Dr. Kate Greenaway,

00:03:37.680 who is the medical director at Foria, a virtual only clinic for gender affirming care. She launches

00:03:42.560 privately run service after her former clinic closed due to funding changes by the Ontario government. So

00:03:48.640 it's sort of the CBC is like two favorite things to rail against, which is anyone who is opposed to their

00:03:55.680 trans ideology and also anybody who supports private care. And we get it all in this glorious news story.

00:04:04.000 So let me just read it through you. It's like, again, peak CBC. If they can rail against someone

00:04:10.880 and promote trans ideology and then at the same time rail against anyone for suggesting that there

00:04:15.760 should be private healthcare in Canada, they will do it. And that's what this article does here. So

00:04:19.680 let me just read through the story. It says, Kit Sparrow was faced with two options when he sought

00:04:24.880 out gender affirming care, wait months for a specialist appointment or pay out of pocket for

00:04:29.840 a privately run virtual service. The Ontario based accessibility technology engineer had spent years

00:04:35.120 trying to understand his gender identity. Last March, he decided to visit his family doctor

00:04:40.160 and begin transitioning. While his physician responded positively, they didn't have the training or

00:04:46.080 experience to prescribe hormone treatment and instead referred him to an endocrinologist.

00:04:51.440 This referral Sparrow says came with a seven month waitlist hearing that I had to wait

00:04:56.560 even longer. It was a punch in the gut. He told a host of this podcast. So let me just stop here

00:05:02.240 because like we're supposed to read this story with empathy for this young woman who suddenly believes

00:05:08.320 that she's a man and she was pleased that her doctor went along with it. And then we're supposed to

00:05:13.920 feel a great deal of sympathy that she had to wait seven months. Well, perhaps it's just a reminder,

00:05:20.480 like to anyone who lives in Canada and has any experience with the Canadian healthcare service,

00:05:25.840 like everybody waits, everybody waits for everything. Like when I was pregnant in Toronto and I needed to

00:05:32.000 find an OB, I had to go to a family doctor and they get referred and then wait. And I was pregnant. I

00:05:37.120 literally had to go see a doctor to have my six week visit and my eight week visit. And I had to wait.

00:05:42.160 That's just the normal experience of people in Canada. There are currently 3.4 million people

00:05:49.600 in Canada on some kind of a waitlist waiting for some kind of a surgery that's according to Second

00:05:55.680 Street. So the idea that it's like so unusual or unfair that this individual had to wait seven months

00:06:03.440 just doesn't really ring true for anyone who lives in Canada and has had the experience of having to see

00:06:08.000 a doctor or wait to see any kind of specialist. That's just how the system works in our country,

00:06:13.520 unfortunately. Okay. So going back to the story, it says, depending on where a patient is located

00:06:18.640 in Canada, wait times for gender affirming care can be months. Here is a precarious position for people

00:06:24.160 who are already struggling with their mental illness. So just another note here, when they say

00:06:28.960 gender affirming care, that is a euphemism. It doesn't really exactly describe

00:06:34.000 what is happening here. Okay. So the idea is that when it comes to gender for these people,

00:06:40.000 they're saying that it is different than their biological sex. So the biological sex is a woman,

00:06:44.240 but their gender that they see themselves as is a male. And so they want affirming care. So they want

00:06:52.080 health care to make them a man. They want a sex change operation, which, you know, as everybody knows, 0.98

00:06:57.680 you can't change your biology. You can't change your sex. So they say that you can change your gender

00:07:02.560 and they want gender affirming care. So, so taking you to the other gender that that's,

00:07:07.200 that's what they're referring to with this sort of soft, nice sounding gender affirming care. We're

00:07:11.440 talking about sex change operations typically. And interesting note as well is that the article says

00:07:18.320 right out that it's a precarious position for people already struggling with their mental health. So the

00:07:24.480 article kind of lets the cat out of the bag and saying that the people who are going through this

00:07:28.480 procedure are mentally unwell, that this is a form of gender dysphoria. These people are mentally 1.00

00:07:33.920 unwell. And they're saying that because they're mentally unwell, we have to give them life altering,

00:07:40.400 sex altering medications, medical interventions to somehow help save their mental illness. I mean, 0.64

00:07:47.440 my initial instinct when I read that is these people are mentally ill, let's treat the mental illness 0.99

00:07:52.320 rather than mutilating their bodies, because they believe that they are the opposite sex. I mean, 0.99

00:07:58.960 it seems to me pretty clear in the subtext of this article that that is a proper response. However,

00:08:04.800 that's the exact opposite of what the CBC is advocating here. Okay, I'll continue to read it says

00:08:10.160 transgender health researcher Avery Ahart says the trans and non-binary community is facing a crisis of

00:08:16.160 access to gender affirming care. And there may be value in trying to throw every possible solution

00:08:21.760 at it. So interestingly, there's always a crisis when it comes to this stuff. It's always an emergency,

00:08:26.640 crisis of care, we should throw every dollar possible at this issue. I mean, take a step back,

00:08:31.920 like what are we throwing? What do you want to throw every dollar of care at? It giving drugs and hormones 1.00

00:08:37.280 to very confused young people, offering really risky surgeries to people who might come to regret this

00:08:44.560 decision, people who are already suffering from mental illness, it's like, it's like, not only are

00:08:49.360 they so dead set on pushing their radical solutions to these social problems, but they want to treat it

00:08:56.320 like every, like, we have to devote every dollar of taxpayer money possible to fulfilling their, you know,

00:09:05.200 ideological wishes. So here she says, but she warns that further privatization of the healthcare risks

00:09:11.440 creating an inequitable two-tier system where those with funds can get care quickly and those without

00:09:17.680 it have to wait while investors profit off of a marginalized community. That might be one of my 0.55

00:09:22.640 favorite sentences ever in a CBC story. This is sort of the argument that we've been hearing for like

00:09:27.920 decades in Canada that, no, no, no, we can't, we can't have privatized care because it will just mean

00:09:33.040 that rich people will get to pay and everybody else has to wait. Except for the current system that we

00:09:38.480 have now we're just, everybody waits. 3.4 million Canadians waits. So at least in like this imagined,

00:09:43.920 like they create this boogeyman saying like in this terrible two-tiered system, rich people will

00:09:48.480 get, they will want everyone else to wait. Well, at least in that system, some people get the care

00:09:52.640 that they need, as opposed to now where like nobody gets the care they need. Everybody waits, everybody's

00:09:59.120 suffering from a system. And then they throw in for good measure here, while investors profit off a

00:10:05.360 marginalized community. Like if we had a private system, investors would profit. What investors

00:10:09.680 exactly is the CBC referring to here? What investors? Honestly, we're talking about like pensions,

00:10:15.600 government pensions and teachers' pensions that are typically the ones that invest in like large

00:10:20.800 private-held companies in Canada. So it's just so bizarre. This is a news article. This is written by a

00:10:29.280 straight news reporter, not someone doing commentary, not an opinion piece, not an analysis. But they

00:10:37.600 just write that in. Like everybody knows, everybody at the CBC, it's like common wisdom at the CBC that

00:10:42.720 you cannot private healthcare because some people will get what they want, others will have to wait,

00:10:47.600 and investors will profit. It's like just such a communist mentality. Okay, this article is almost done.

00:10:53.600 Just finish it up here. It says, this is something that disincentivizes us from fixing what's wrong

00:10:59.120 with our existing publicly funded healthcare system, says Everhart, assistant professor of geography at

00:11:04.720 the University of British Columbia, facing a seven-month wait to begin hormone treatment

00:11:09.840 with worsening mental healthcare. Sparrow decided to go to Foreo. Within a few weeks, he had a prescription

00:11:15.040 for testosterone. I'm lucky enough to have been able to afford it, but I'm very disappointed that it's not

00:11:20.400 already covered. This is life saving care. And I will be honest that I don't think I would be here

00:11:26.800 today without it. So there you have it. The tried and true, the favorite tactic of the political left,

00:11:35.680 if you don't give me what I want, I will kill myself or these people will kill ourselves. We hear this 0.99

00:11:40.480 argument over and over and over again. So I wanted to sort of take a step back and just sort of,

00:11:49.600 you know, go through some of these arguments that we see first. Within this CBC article,

00:11:54.720 there were a couple of clips embedded. So I do want to show you them just because it shows you they,

00:11:59.280 you know, they, they wrote this article and then they simultaneously also did a video segment where

00:12:04.640 they interviewed a teen from Alberta to talk about the troubles that that teen had in basically getting

00:12:11.440 access to the care that they wanted, getting access to the sex change operation that this teen was after. 0.96

00:12:17.120 So first I'll play the clip. This is the teen complaining about the onerousness of having

00:12:22.240 to speak to a doctor before getting the drugs that he was after, she was after. Play that clip. 0.55

00:12:28.560 It was like, ask me really weird questions. Like what if I wanted to get pregnant someday?

00:12:33.280 What if I had a husband someday? I think he asked me like, what if you want to keep your boobs? Like, 0.98

00:12:40.320 it was so weird and invasive. We just wanted a referral to a gender clinic. Just a referral 0.99

00:12:45.280 was all that we wanted. And then it would be out of his hands. He refused to do that for us.

00:12:48.880 Well, good. He, I'm glad he refused to do that. It sounds like a common sense doctor there talking

00:12:54.480 to a confused young teenager, uh, walking through the future risks because we know that so many of

00:13:00.800 these children who undertake these life changing surgeries and procedures live to regret it. And

00:13:05.840 when they're 20, 25, 30 years old and they do, it turns out, it turns out that they weren't, they don't

00:13:11.680 want to be a man anymore. They want to be a woman. They want to have children. They want to be able to

00:13:16.480 fulfill their duties as a, as a human being and procreate. And they realize they can't because

00:13:22.880 they've had their uterus removed or they've been sterilized. So a doctor asking a child,

00:13:27.360 just very common sense questions, like think about your future. Do you really want to carve

00:13:31.360 up your body? Do you really want to lose your breasts? What if you want to have children in the 1.00

00:13:34.560 future? I mean, those sound like really very decent and important questions to ask this child.

00:13:40.800 And you can tell that the child there is saying like, how dare he asked me that question? Like,

00:13:45.920 I saw this trend on Tik Tok and I want to do it. And I'm here to get my referral. Give me my drugs.

00:13:50.960 Don't ask me questions, shut up and just do what I want. And it's actually kind of surprising that the 0.96

00:13:56.320 CBC did that interview, conducted it and then aired it. Because when you, when, when I watch that clip,

00:14:02.560 I see a petulant child who is very confused, not someone who I think it's like absolutely like life

00:14:09.360 threatening that we indulge this child and change and give, give this child this exchange operation.

00:14:16.160 I mean, it's pretty wild. Okay. I'll play one more clip. This is of the CBC's journalists. This

00:14:21.040 person is a journalist talking about how important these exchange operations are and how they can be

00:14:28.560 life saving. Let's play that clip. Trans youth say gender affirming health care can be life saving.

00:14:33.920 But depending on where you live in Canada, it's hard to get. And the wait can be years long. But

00:14:38.400 there are health care providers across the country providing this kind of care. They want to make it

00:14:42.720 easier for kids and teens to get it. So that is a journalist. She comes across as an activist. She comes 0.99

00:14:49.280 across as someone who is in a commercial trying to promote this butchery. But she's actually a journalist.

00:14:55.280 And that was her online news segment that she did. So that's that's what we're dealing with here,

00:15:00.480 folks. That's that's the state of journalism in Canada. And one final clip. This is a doctor that

00:15:06.320 was interviewed giving the claim again that these kids will kill themselves if you don't give them

00:15:12.560 what they want. So let's play that clip. Affirming care is sort of a bigger term, but it really means,

00:15:17.200 you know, meeting the kid where they are. That's what endocrinologist Dr. Daniel Metzger wants to do.

00:15:23.280 Metzger co-authored a new position statement by the Canadian Pediatric Society endorsing affirming

00:15:28.960 care for transgender and gender diverse kids and teens. They have no legal support,

00:15:33.280 but they also have no medical support in some places. Or if they had medical support, it's been

00:15:36.480 taken away. So, you know, the unfortunate fact is that the suicide rate among trans youth is the highest of

00:15:45.200 all that goes down very rapidly once a child is just talks to one grown up in charge and says,

00:15:52.320 yeah, we believe you. Let's help you out. Metzger says many kids and teens are only interested in

00:15:57.840 social transition, changing their appearance or their name. So that's not true. That last line

00:16:04.080 about how most of these kids are not interested in any kind of medical intervention. All they want is

00:16:09.120 just to talk to an adult who will understand and they just want to change their appearance and go

00:16:14.160 by a different name. That's obviously not the case because if that was the case, then we wouldn't be

00:16:18.880 having this discussion. Then Daniel Smith's policies about banning surgeries and hormone treatments,

00:16:23.920 they wouldn't have cared. If the biggest issue, most of these kids just simply wanted to go by a

00:16:28.800 different name at school, that's one thing. That's one thing. But what we're talking about is these

00:16:33.520 interventions is the surgeries and the hormones. And that's why they're up in arms. So they can't

00:16:37.920 simultaneously say like, most kids don't even want the drugs, they don't even want the surgeries.

00:16:42.560 And then when a politician says, Okay, fine, we're not going to allow really good, good that they don't

00:16:46.800 want them because we're not gonna allow them. And then they all like scream and pull their hair out and

00:16:50.480 say that it's, you know, a dictatorship. It's like, because the first statement isn't true. So I just want to

00:16:56.480 quickly go through this claim, this idea that if you ban kids from getting these surgeries and taking

00:17:04.800 these hormone drugs, it puts their lives at risk because you do a little digging and you find, you

00:17:10.160 know, Dr. Jordan Peterson, I share this in my show earlier this week, he said there's not a shred of

00:17:14.480 clinical evidence to support this claim. And yet, you'll see that almost every article, almost every like, even just a

00:17:20.720 tweet of people condemning Daniel Smith's policy, they always note this statistic, that kids will

00:17:27.440 kill themselves, it's a threat, it's used as a tactic, they will kill themselves, you don't give

00:17:32.080 them what they want. So you have to give them what they want. Well, when we look at the actual statistics, 0.97

00:17:37.120 this is from an organization called statsforgender.org. We learned that there is little evidence that

00:17:42.000 medical transition decreases suicidality. When it comes to gender disforged children, there is little

00:17:48.560 evidence that medical transition decreases suicide rates. There's little evidence to assert that

00:17:52.640 puberty blockers are necessary to prevent surgery. So I'll just quickly read here, it says after sex

00:17:57.920 reassignment surgery, one study showed that adult transsexual clients were 4.9 times more likely to

00:18:04.560 have made a suicide attempt, and 19.1 times more likely to have died from suicide after adjusting for prior

00:18:11.520 psychiatric comorbidity. Similarly, an Australian paper notes that many patients have poor outcomes,

00:18:17.680 which puts them at risk of suicide. That means that the surgeries get botched. I covered that on my

00:18:22.000 last show as well. Surgeries get botched. These people are in chronic pain as a result, and that

00:18:27.520 puts them in a higher risk of suicide. A prominent study claiming that medical transition alleviated

00:18:33.120 suicidality had to be corrected to clarify that it proved no advantage of surgery in this regard. A long-term

00:18:39.280 Swedish study finds that post-operative transgender people have considerably higher risks of suicide

00:18:46.320 behavior. Okay, so literally the opposite of what these people are claiming. Finally, a study from the

00:18:52.720 European Journal of Endocrinology demonstrates that suicide rates among transgender male to females

00:18:58.400 were 51 percent higher than the general population. So anytime you hear someone say that these kids will

00:19:06.880 kill themselves if you don't let them have these surgeries, just share these statistics. Share these

00:19:11.280 statistics, let them know that this is not true, that the kids don't end up not killing themselves

00:19:18.320 because they get affirmed and they get this health care. It's the exact opposite. We have studies and we

00:19:23.440 have the numbers to prove it. And look, to another point, and again I made this point in my last episode

00:19:29.920 of my show, which is that 80 percent of children who suffer from gender dysphoria end up going back to

00:19:37.360 wanting to be their original biological sex post puberty. So this is a stage that kids go through.

00:19:44.720 It's very uncomfortable. It's very awkward. A lot of the children that suffer from gender dysphoria have

00:19:50.000 other issues and other illnesses. A lot of them suffer from mental health. A lot of them are on the

00:19:54.960 autism spectrum, something that we don't often talk about as well. But 80 percent of them end up going back

00:20:00.240 to wanting to be their original biological sex and many of them end up just being gay or lesbian as well.

00:20:06.960 And so the idea that we need to indulge these children and give them life-altering medications,

00:20:12.800 in some cases surgery, as a solution and the CBC advocates like it's absolutely urgent. We have to do

00:20:18.560 it now and if we don't the kids will die. Like none of that is true. It's all propaganda. It is absolute

00:20:24.480 ideological nonsense and people need to reject it. People need to learn the facts and they need to reject it.

00:20:30.080 It is the role of parents and adults in our society to help children, to help them understand

00:20:35.120 the world, to help them guide through difficult decisions and difficult stages of their life.

00:20:40.720 And it is not helpful to indulge these children in delusions, in fantasies. It is not helpful to

00:20:46.160 politicize them and make them political bonds and political tools to fight against your chosen

00:20:52.160 political adversary. And what the CBC is doing here, this is not journalism. Like every aspect about this

00:20:58.960 is silly and farcical and obviously agenda-driven, but it's also terrible. Like this is not based on

00:21:05.920 the truth. This is not based on anything honorable. They are pushing a twisted ideology that actually

00:21:11.760 leads to more pain and more suffering in our society that takes confused children and manipulates them 0.88

00:21:20.960 and leads them to wanting to destroy their own bodies, to prevent them from having children in 0.96

00:21:27.280 the future. Like everything about this is just so terrible. Like I would usually laugh during Fake

00:21:32.160 News Friday and say like, how silly is this news story? We should all make fun of the CBC. But this

00:21:37.120 is far worse. This is poisonous. This is cancerous. And this is just one other reason that we seriously

00:21:42.880 need to get rid of the CBC. This organization needs to be defunded once and for all. What they do is not

00:21:48.080 journalism is activists. It is activism and it is bad for our country. It's bad for society,

00:21:53.840 bad for the world, and especially bad for people who read it and digest it and consume it and believe

00:21:59.120 that it is true. I'll leave it at that. Thank you so much for tuning in. Have a wonderful weekend.

00:22:03.280 It's Fake News Friday. I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 23, 2024

DEBUNKING the CBC’s radical trans nonsense

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