The Candice Malcolm Show - Did the Liberals RIG the leadership vote？

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00:01:30.000 Thank you so much for joining us, everybody. We have a great show lined up for you. We're going to talk about Mark Carney and his very first day as Prime Minister-designate. Later in the show, we're going to talk about the latest with President Donald Trump, the trade war, and Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford's escalation in that battle between neighbours.

00:01:50.160 Later in the show, we're also going to be joined by True North's Clayton Domain to talk about voter fraud in Ontario. There's been some investigative journalism that has uncovered a huge problem when it comes to voting in Canada.

00:02:04.160 And I'm pleased to be joined for most of the show today by our friend Chris Sims. Chris is the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. Hi, Chris. Thanks so much for joining us today.

00:02:15.180 Good morning, Candice. Thanks for having me.

00:02:17.220 Well, I want to just take a minute to plug a new piece of work that we have done over at Juno News. So if we head on over to Juno News, you will see that we have done a deep dive. We've done our own bit of investigative journalism into the new Prime Minister, Mark Carney.

00:02:32.960 We have a clip of that documentary that I would like to play for you now.

00:03:02.960 So very excited to be releasing that. We went through many of the claims that Mark Carney has made that he has been contradicted on.

00:03:32.960 And frankly, Chris, we did the job that the legacy media refuses to do, which is just dig into it, dig into the claims, try to figure out what the truth is when it comes to the things that we're told about Mark Carney.

00:03:45.860 And we've been told so many things that have just turned out not to be true. So we spent a bunch of time and effort putting that together.

00:03:52.020 And if you'd like to see the entire documentary, please head on over to JunoNews.com.

00:03:56.300 It is available at this point exclusively to our subscribers. And we think it's incredibly important that Canadians get this message.

00:04:05.320 So as everybody saw on Sunday night, Mark Carney was selected as leader of the Liberal Party, which means that he will succeed, succeed Justin Trudeau and become our next Prime Minister.

00:04:16.500 We still don't even know when he's going to be signed in. So at this point, he is just the Prime Minister designate.

00:04:22.360 But I want to talk a little bit about that leadership vote on Sunday night, Chris, because there were a couple of things that just don't, just doesn't really add up to me when it comes to what happened.

00:04:34.580 And so first, I want to point, let's just do a comparison between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

00:04:38.800 So first thing, we were told that the convention that the Liberals held on Sunday evening in Ottawa had fewer than 2,000 people in attendance.

00:04:51.240 Compare that to Pierre Polyev, who did a rally in London, Ontario, a much smaller city.

00:04:56.500 And this is just a rally. And there were an estimated 2,500 attendees.

00:05:00.800 This is according to Juno News. And so just even the idea that they are electing, selecting a new leader for the Liberal Party.

00:05:10.480 And there are a few people that just go to like your run of the mill, Pierre Polyev rally that's not even during a campaign.

00:05:19.680 You know, you had two former Prime Ministers in attendance in Ottawa, and they couldn't even pull out a crowd of more than 2,000 people.

00:05:26.820 And then when it comes to the number of people who voted. So we had been told that there were 400,000 registered Liberals that were going to be voting in this race.

00:05:36.820 And remember that in order to be a Liberal member, you don't have to pay any money.

00:05:41.360 Unlike in the Conservative Party, you do have to pay. For the Liberals, you don't even have to be a citizen of Canada, which to me is just so outrageous.

00:05:48.040 And you can, they open membership to anybody over the age of 14.

00:05:51.520 So you could have a 14-year-old who is a foreign national and not a Canadian, who didn't pay any money, has nothing invested, and you could go ahead and you could vote.

00:06:01.940 So we were told that was 400,000. And yet the party said that 151,000 people voted in the race.

00:06:09.740 Interestingly, they said that 163,000 people successfully went through the authentication process.

00:06:17.960 So out of 400,000, only 163, it seems, could be confirmed to be real people.

00:06:25.020 And of those, only 151% voted.

00:06:28.260 So the Liberals are running around today saying that 93% of their party voted in this race, but only if you take that smaller number.

00:06:37.080 And 163,000 people, I mean, that seems kind of like a lot.

00:06:42.180 But in the world of politics, I mean, that is significantly smaller than the Conservative Party.

00:06:47.880 The Conservative Party had 417,000 people vote in their leadership race.

00:06:53.440 I mean, 160,000 people, that's fewer than the number of people who receive emails from me, like on my email list.

00:07:00.000 And I'm sure it's the same with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:07:02.840 Not a very large percentage of Canadians.

00:07:05.340 And so we're told, sure, Mark Carney got 80, 85%, I believe, of the vote.

00:07:10.680 But again, that's of that smaller number.

00:07:13.800 This isn't any kind of a resounding mandate from Canadians.

00:07:18.700 And it raises so many questions, Chris, about the authenticity or how secure this process is.

00:07:26.300 If 400,000 people were on the list and only 150,000 of them actually voted, what happened to the others and why weren't their votes counted?

00:07:34.680 What do you make of all this?

00:07:36.520 Well, it's a great question, Candice.

00:07:37.980 And I saw some of the voter breakdowns.

00:07:40.040 I'll get to that in a second on regionalism and where they were voting from.

00:07:43.680 I thought that was pretty interesting.

00:07:45.460 But you're right.

00:07:46.100 I did find it a really small number of people.

00:07:48.600 Like, for example, the Taxpayers Federation, when we send out a survey or something to our supporters, it goes to around 250,000 people.

00:07:55.740 And that's just one advocacy group.

00:07:58.520 So that's not including Fraser Institute or any other group.

00:08:01.280 That's just the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:08:03.820 And so to have that small group of Canadians now selected the prime minister-designate, he hasn't been sworn in yet, is really quite eye-opening.

00:08:13.360 I found it interesting on where these folks apparently were voting from.

00:08:18.140 And so apparently they were voting largely from, say, downtown Toronto, downtown Ottawa, really kind of hyper-urban places, but not the more what you would call kind of the working class, middle-income, newer Canadian areas.

00:08:36.380 So, for example, my uncle actually works in London as a security guard near the soup kitchen there, which unfortunately, by the way, is getting flooded with people.

00:08:45.240 Record numbers of people are going to the food bank in the soup kitchen there.

00:08:48.900 He sees it there every day.

00:08:50.240 Lots of people struggling.

00:08:51.700 Down the street is where that Pierre Polly of Raleigh was being held.

00:08:55.280 So I found that very interesting that I was hearing numbers everywhere between 2,500 and 3,000 people at the Pierre Polly of Raleigh.

00:09:02.580 Yet in downtown Ottawa, where they're selecting a new prime minister of Canada, kind of a big deal for that.

00:09:09.120 Regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum, if that's your party, that seems like a pretty big deal.

00:09:13.640 And they were able to only pull in a smaller crowd.

00:09:16.520 And it was a smaller crowd, even apparently according to the CBC, saying this is a smaller crowd.

00:09:22.200 So I found it really telling that the issues of affordability and people just being broke, broke, mattered more, if you take a look at the tea leaves and the data sets, than the glitz and glamour that was going on in Ottawa.

00:09:37.340 Well, it's just, it's so remarkable.

00:09:40.260 You know, you think that the Liberal Party, they have been in power for the last nine years.

00:09:45.380 Like you said, they're selecting their new prime minister.

00:09:47.600 They had Jean Chrétien.

00:09:48.620 They had Justin Trudeau.

00:09:50.660 They had kind of like a stellar lineup if you're a Liberal and you're excited.

00:09:54.040 Like imagine if there was an event that had Stephen Harper speaking, that had Pierre Paglia speaking, like had all the big players in the conservative movement.

00:10:03.820 I'm telling you, there'd be tens of thousands of people in attendance for that.

00:10:08.780 And again, I just find it really worrying and concerning that so many people who had signed up to vote in the Liberal leadership race didn't get to vote.

00:10:17.600 And I'll tell you, Chris, like my inbox was filled with concerned Liberals who had been turned away.

00:10:23.760 I received many of these sort of tips of people who had registered, who are Liberals, who wanted to vote.

00:10:29.400 And some kind of trivial discrepancy meant that they were blocked.

00:10:34.520 Like one, you know, an example would be like if you're, if you go by Dan, but your name's Daniel.

00:10:39.880 And so, you know, when you register and you wrote Dan, but then the idea that you tried to produce said Daniel, and they just wouldn't let you vote.

00:10:46.600 And, you know, when that happens on scale, I mean, we had the Globe and Mail pointing out that only 40% of the registered Liberals voted, which means that 60% were rejected.

00:11:00.680 I mean, how can you walk around and say that Mark Carney has this huge mandate, even from within the Liberal Party, when 60% of the people who wanted to vote were somehow found to be illegitimate and not able to vote?

00:11:16.060 To me, that is so suspicious and it's so alarming.

00:11:20.020 I hope that someone is able to uncover.

00:11:22.860 We're talking to, we're talking about a whistleblower later in the show who has done some undercover journalism to expose flaws in the Ontario voting system.

00:11:31.120 But I would really like to see what is happening with the Liberals, because that is a huge percentage of people who were unable to vote.

00:11:39.540 And again, just for context, because we keep hearing that 85% of Liberals voted for Mark Carney and only 62% of Conservatives voted for Pierre Polyev back in 2022 when he became leader.

00:11:49.440 And yet, everybody said that Pierre Polyev had like a resounding victory.

00:11:53.860 But if you just look at the numbers, 132,000 people voted for Mark Carney, whereas 295,000 voted for Pierre Polyev.

00:12:05.840 And so more Canadians, twice as many Canadians, in fact, cast their vote in a leadership race for Pierre Polyev.

00:12:16.500 And, you know, I have a hard time really believing that Mark Carney has any kind of a mandate.

00:12:22.080 I want to just stay with the Sunday night event, because there was a couple of things that were really kind of resounding to me.

00:12:30.760 One of it was that Mark Carney pledged that he would get rid of the capital gains tax and get rid of the carbon tax.

00:12:36.040 So I imagine you folks over at the Canadian Tax Federation were giving yourselves a little pat on the back because you were the ones that were really leading the campaign against these disastrous taxes.

00:12:45.660 And so the fact that both parties kind of are in agreement about that is good.

00:12:49.440 One thing that I really noted was that when Mark Carney announced to the liberal audience that he was getting rid of carbon tax, the place like erupted in cheers.

00:12:57.780 And it just seems so ironic to me that like the liberals who for the last 10 years have been pushing this green agenda, saying that the planet is on fire and that we have to tax ourselves and shut down our industry in order to save the planet.

00:13:10.020 And, you know, the key policy of Prime Minister Trudeau had been this carbon tax, which was also championed and demanded for by Mark Carney in the background.

00:13:20.240 And here you had the entire liberal convention applauding, like erupting in cheers over the fact that they were getting rid of it.

00:13:26.880 So from a taxpayer's perspective, what do you think of all that?

00:13:29.980 So many points there.

00:13:30.940 Very briefly, just touching back on the issue between mandates, I will point out that Pierre Polyev has been a member of parliament since he was in his early to mid 20s, and he was then the opposition leader.

00:13:45.000 However, with Mark Carney, this is the first time that someone with zero parliament hill experience.

00:13:51.120 So has not been a member of parliament, has not been a senator, has not been a cabinet minister, is now going to be catapulted directly, do not pass go, do not collect $200, all the way into the seat of the PMO.

00:14:04.720 So yes, John Turner had taken a turn out of parliament, and then he was put back in.

00:14:08.580 There were a few earlier prime ministers that kind of fall under that, but they had been senators before, or they had been cabinet ministers before, or even prime ministers previously, before they became prime minister again.

00:14:18.980 This is the first time that somebody, you know, off the street, so to speak, is now becoming prime minister.

00:14:25.960 And so I think that is why there's more scrutiny from across the board.

00:14:30.120 It's been mainstream media and independent media going, this is pretty interesting.

00:14:33.900 So I think it's the severity, the level of power that is giving more scrutiny to this mandate, whether or not he has one.

00:14:40.960 To the issue of the carbon tax, we were happy to hear Mark Carney say he's going to scrap the carbon tax,

00:14:48.460 but he said that, this is the catch, he said that in a leak through his leadership team early on, and that soaked up all the headlines.

00:14:57.680 It was like that ShamWow commercial with the blanket.

00:15:00.220 It just sucked up all the headlines.

00:15:02.020 Mark Carney, ding dong, the witch is dead.

00:15:03.840 They're getting rid of the carbon tax.

00:15:05.460 But then the devil's in the details.

00:15:07.440 Then he made his announcement in Halifax and said he's going to immediately remove the consumer carbon tax.

00:15:13.660 So what does that mean?

00:15:15.500 And then later on in Kelowna, he changed it again.

00:15:18.240 And he said he's not going to axe the tax.

00:15:20.540 The crowd laughed at that idea, which really got my dander up, Candace.

00:15:24.660 And then he said he's going to change the carbon tax.

00:15:28.240 So face value, at least the one thing Carney should do right now, like today, is tell the cabinet ministers,

00:15:35.160 hey, put in a request through, you know, order in council, get rid of the carbon tax now.

00:15:40.560 And they can do that without Parliament sitting.

00:15:43.000 They can change the amount collected by the carbon tax in their orders to zero.

00:15:47.980 So that's the very least he can do now, because right now Canadians are still paying this thing.

00:15:53.220 And it's set to go up April 1st.

00:15:55.140 To give you an idea, the average, not a huge mansion with an indoor swimming pool and three big personal cars,

00:16:00.880 the way Trudeau used to say, the average Alberta household is going to be out $440 this year just for heating their home.

00:16:08.780 So Carney should do the right thing today, Candace, and make that carbon tax rate go down to zero.

00:16:15.680 That's for now.

00:16:17.200 But you're right.

00:16:18.280 He's been in the background pushing for carbon taxes basically his entire professional life, his entire political career.

00:16:25.480 Like, it's all through this book.

00:16:27.420 I know that your folks there at Juno and True North did a lot of work on this.

00:16:31.420 I know Cosman did a big deep dive on this.

00:16:33.180 It's the keystone to his worldview.

00:16:37.280 Carbon taxes are a keystone to Mark Carney's worldview.

00:16:41.160 So for him to turn away from it is like a vegan suddenly eating steak.

00:16:45.280 That is a big deal.

00:16:47.000 So we're going to take him at his word right now and push him to get rid of the consumer carbon tax so at least it's off of everybody's heat bills

00:16:54.220 and off the price at the pump between now and April 1st.

00:16:57.840 Then we're going to see what's going to happen during the election.

00:17:00.640 Well, I would say it's not quite like a vegan eating steak because he hasn't actually eaten it yet.

00:17:04.760 It's like a vegan ordering steak.

00:17:06.240 And it's yet to be seen whether or not they'll actually eat it.

00:17:08.680 Great point.

00:17:09.320 I mean, it's like, yeah, everything that he believes, everything that he's built his career upon this whole net zero approach

00:17:15.440 that has been devastating in the UK and you now have UK officials coming out saying,

00:17:20.280 Canada, be careful with this guy.

00:17:22.200 He was a disaster in the UK.

00:17:23.840 Former Prime Minister Liz Trust said that financial columnist Matthew Liu also had a column saying the same thing.

00:17:31.120 Yeah, he's going to get rid of the consumer facing one, but the devil's in the details.

00:17:35.040 And, you know, just the fact that the liberal audience was cheering over that, I think it's really just all about crass politics

00:17:42.040 because Mark Carney is just a continuation of Justin Trudeau.

00:17:46.600 Like he, what we've seen is kind of a remarkable bait and switch.

00:17:51.340 Justin Trudeau, greatly unpopular, tanked in popularity, has done so much damage to the Canadian economy,

00:17:57.860 to Canadian unity, to our sense of country, to our safety.

00:18:01.260 Just the list goes on and on.

00:18:02.660 And he's unpopular, so he taps his economic advisor to come out and take over.

00:18:08.940 And he admits so much.

00:18:10.460 So Mark Carney was in Parliament yesterday talking to the reporters for the first time.

00:18:15.360 He said that he just finished a meeting with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

00:18:18.540 and that the transition will be seamless and quick.

00:18:21.180 Of course it is, because they have the same views, they have the same position, they have the same staff, right?

00:18:25.860 It's literally just, it's just a switch.

00:18:27.880 Let's play Mark Carney in his own words admitting all of this.

00:18:30.600 I just had a long meeting with the Prime Minister.

00:18:34.640 We discussed the most important issues for our country, obviously including Canada and U.S. relations,

00:18:41.500 issues of national security.

00:18:43.760 And yes, the transition between the Prime Minister and myself,

00:18:48.420 that transition will be seamless and it will be quick.

00:18:53.480 He was even kind of smirking about that.

00:18:57.480 Like, of course it'll be quick and seamless because it's the same, it's the same thing.

00:19:02.260 Yes.

00:19:02.640 What do you think?

00:19:03.560 Yes.

00:19:04.100 So parties have not changed.

00:19:06.460 Power hasn't really changed.

00:19:08.120 This is just a transition from one party leader within the Liberals to the other party leader.

00:19:12.660 I can't help but kind of smile because I've worked on Parliament Hill.

00:19:16.820 I worked there for like probably around 20 years, give or take.

00:19:20.460 And to see Mark Carney there standing in the foyer,

00:19:23.340 I'm wondering if Dominic LeBlanc was his MP buddy that helped him through security

00:19:27.460 and got the wand and everything, just like somebody would if you're taking a tour of the building.

00:19:32.020 Because again, he is not a member of Parliament.

00:19:35.520 But in this, we have an interesting system in the Westminster system.

00:19:39.360 Technically, you don't need to be a member of Parliament to be a member of Cabinet.

00:19:43.960 And the Prime Minister is the first Cabinet Minister chosen by and accepted by the Crown.

00:19:51.300 So this is up to King Charles III and through his representative, Mary Simon, the Governor General,

00:19:57.180 to then swear him in to Cabinet and have him be the Prime Minister.

00:20:01.440 I found it really interesting that there's this strange kind of Jekyll and Hyde approach to him being changey and new.

00:20:10.280 Meanwhile, everybody who's followed politics knows that he's been right in there advising these folks.

00:20:16.100 In fact, folks might remember just before this dust-up started when Chrystia Freeland, the narrative goes,

00:20:23.340 says she didn't want to run a 60-something billion dollar deficit.

00:20:27.660 She only wanted to run a 40 billion dollar deficit. 0.90

00:20:30.500 Who was going to replace her?

00:20:33.240 Mark Carney.

00:20:34.800 Like, everybody on the Hill knew that he was going to be the person to replace her as Finance Minister

00:20:39.460 once outgoing Trudeau Prime Minister was getting rid of her. 1.00

00:20:44.260 So to have it now being played as if he's the new guy, but he's also the old guy, it's kind of mind-bending.

00:20:50.180 What really gets me is, again, he's on the record so many times, Candace.

00:20:54.820 This wasn't just a one-off comment that somebody said at a party or a bar or something.

00:20:58.860 Like, he has written, like, literally a book on this stuff.

00:21:03.240 He got his undergrad at Harvard.

00:21:05.760 He got his PhD at Oxford.

00:21:07.960 He takes a global view to this stuff.

00:21:10.460 Like, on the front of his book, it's literally the planet with scaffolding around it.

00:21:14.380 Like, he's going to fix the whole of the earth for us.

00:21:18.280 What got me, Candace, is that throughout this book, he talks about carbon taxes.

00:21:23.160 He talks about things like power plants and our hot water tanks being stranded assets in the future.

00:21:30.880 Because he wants to switch it all over to wind and solar.

00:21:34.480 He talks about leaving more than 80% of oil and gas in the ground.

00:21:39.480 And this is not something I'm digging up from him from the 80s.

00:21:42.040 Like, he just published this thing just after the lockdowns.

00:21:44.920 And so I'm really hoping that some of those journalists who are there,

00:21:49.200 standing in front of him in the Parliamentary Press Gallery,

00:21:51.640 stick a mic in his face and get him to answer these questions.

00:21:54.820 It's also, you know, the entire thing is just so staged

00:21:59.040 that it almost feels like we're living out an Orwell novel.

00:22:02.020 Because we were told on January 6th that Justin Trudeau was resigning

00:22:05.200 because of internal conflicts in the party.

00:22:07.800 And that he just couldn't manage being Prime Minister with these fractures, right?

00:22:12.280 Presumably talking about Chrystia Freeland, exactly what you were saying,

00:22:15.160 that he was trying to kick her out.

00:22:16.380 She said it in interviews.

00:22:18.260 He said, come deliver the fall economic update.

00:22:21.440 And then I'm going to fire you the next day.

00:22:22.840 And I'm going to replace you with Mark Carney, right?

00:22:24.560 And she said, I'm not going to do that.

00:22:25.660 Not great people management.

00:22:26.460 That's just not good people management.

00:22:28.040 Yeah, I'm going to pull the plug.

00:22:29.120 And it's funny that you said, you know,

00:22:30.720 fiscal restraint in this government is,

00:22:32.880 I'm only willing to do $40 billion in deficits, not 60.

00:22:36.100 60 is too far, but 40, I'm OK with that. 0.98

00:22:39.140 And then they turn around and they say,

00:22:40.980 oh, look, 85% of our members support Mark Carney.

00:22:43.880 Pay no attention to the 60% that mysteriously vanished

00:22:46.920 and didn't get a chance to vote.

00:22:48.420 And then to your point that this is just the same government,

00:22:51.180 Mark Carney announced yesterday they had appointed Marco Mendocino

00:22:54.280 as his chief of staff.

00:22:56.180 Of course, Marco Mendocino was Justin Trudeau's immigration minister,

00:22:59.960 among many other positions that he held.

00:23:02.600 So same crew, same people, same insiders.

00:23:06.700 I want to go to this photo because I mentioned this on our live stream

00:23:10.460 the other night, that if you would ask me at any point in the last nine years

00:23:13.440 how I would be feeling and what I would be saying the night

00:23:16.580 that Justin Trudeau got removed from office,

00:23:18.540 like his last day at Prime Minister,

00:23:19.720 I would have assumed that I would be in good spirits

00:23:21.840 and optimistic and happy about the future of Canada.

00:23:24.140 And yet I feel the exact opposite.

00:23:25.740 I feel like filled with dread and just worrying about the future of our country.

00:23:31.260 Justin Trudeau on his way out is sort of making a mockery of all Canadians,

00:23:34.820 as he tends to do.

00:23:36.400 This is a great photo that you actually sent to me

00:23:38.460 that was taken by a Routers photographer of Justin Trudeau

00:23:41.340 carrying a chair, his own chair, out of the House of Commons.

00:23:44.900 I guess this is one of the traditions of our parliamentary system

00:23:48.960 or our Westminster democracy.

00:23:51.000 And I don't know if we can zoom in on that face, Sean,

00:23:53.640 but Justin Trudeau, always the entertainer, always the jester,

00:23:59.260 you know, elect a clown, get a circus, sticking his tongue out.

00:24:05.420 What do you make of this as the image of Canada's democracy

00:24:11.420 in our Westminster system?

00:24:12.560 Well, it's truly an iconic photo and kudos to Carlos Osorio

00:24:16.720 who snapped that photo, like you said, for Routers.

00:24:20.160 Just even if I remove, you know, my feelings about it,

00:24:23.660 if you look at it again, the photographer uses,

00:24:27.940 there are these tiny little windows up in the upstairs hallway

00:24:30.800 looking down into the House of Commons.

00:24:32.840 And the photographer uses the window frame to frame.

00:24:36.520 Put the photo back up on the screen here.

00:24:38.780 It's really quite something if you look at it.

00:24:40.680 Like if we still had, look at this, if we still had printed history books

00:24:44.520 or encyclopedias, this would be in one of them.

00:24:47.560 Because you look at the artistry where the photographer is using

00:24:50.660 the natural window frame.

00:24:52.360 His foot is still in the air, so it's an action shot.

00:24:55.760 Like it's just an outstanding photo.

00:24:57.980 Now, if you look at the subject matter, you're right.

00:25:00.420 I was doing a little contest on my own social media saying,

00:25:03.140 what should we name this, of the budget will balance itself,

00:25:06.880 or I doubled the national debt.

00:25:09.600 I thought maybe the Miley Cyrus song, I came in like a wrecking ball,

00:25:13.340 might be more suitable because his tongue is hanging out.

00:25:16.200 And this is just fiscal issues.

00:25:17.660 Again, like I'm not exaggerating.

00:25:19.540 That man's government did double the national debt.

00:25:23.520 That is the same guy who kept on cranking up carbon taxes on us.

00:25:27.520 And when reporters dared ask him about it, he simply said,

00:25:32.080 well, the only people that really feel the cost of the carbon tax, Candace,

00:25:35.520 are people in gigantic mansions with an indoor swimming pool

00:25:38.760 and three big personal cars.

00:25:41.000 You could not have said, let them eat cake louder.

00:25:44.460 And so this guy's record is a disaster, an absolute fiscal dumpster fire.

00:25:50.380 And I know other issues are with that gentleman

00:25:53.460 and that there's other people that are upset with him about other issues.

00:25:56.200 But from a fiscal standpoint, just an absolute disaster.

00:25:59.840 And so, yeah, that photo tells.

00:26:02.780 A thousand words, doesn't it?

00:26:04.540 I want to move on to talk about the latest with regards to our American neighbors.

00:26:09.040 And I thought a good segue to this was to go back to Sunday night

00:26:12.180 and see a clip of our former prime minister, Jean Chrétien,

00:26:15.640 who I have a lot of time for these days.

00:26:17.320 I think that he's much more sensible than the run-of-the-mill liberal.

00:26:21.080 But I thought this joke was absolutely just such poor taste

00:26:24.600 and really, again, pouring gasoline on the fire.

00:26:26.720 So here is a clip of former prime minister, Jean Chrétien,

00:26:29.800 joking about burning down the White House.

00:26:32.700 Let's play that clip.

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00:27:05.360 During the War of 1812,

00:27:08.980 Americans who came to what is known,

00:27:11.860 Canada, on a mission of conquest.

00:27:14.320 They were defeated by Colonel de Salaberry

00:27:19.060 in what is now Quebec

00:27:20.800 and by leaders like the great Indigenous chief

00:27:24.880 Tecumse.

00:27:27.420 And I don't know,

00:27:28.160 apparently some burned the White House at that time.

00:27:35.420 But I'm told to do it.

00:27:38.420 But I'm told to do it.

00:27:40.160 So some say someone burned the White House back then.

00:27:42.940 Sure, that is true.

00:27:43.740 During the War of 1812,

00:27:44.760 that happens as a historical fact.

00:27:46.480 In fact,

00:27:46.880 the American National Anthem

00:27:48.120 is written by someone who observed this.

00:27:50.840 And that is what he's talking about.

00:27:51.980 The rockets, red glare, bombs bursting in air.

00:27:53.600 That was the British, 0.97

00:27:55.080 the Canadians,

00:27:56.160 engaging in a war.

00:27:58.360 Is that really the best thing to mention

00:28:00.820 and to joke about?

00:28:01.900 Again, you could hear the auditorium burst in applause

00:28:04.360 when he said that we burned the White House down

00:28:06.220 and then kind of saying,

00:28:08.020 you know,

00:28:08.240 they told me to do it,

00:28:09.020 like told you to do it,

00:28:10.300 to say it,

00:28:11.180 or told you to do it again,

00:28:12.200 like burn the White House down again.

00:28:13.960 You know,

00:28:14.420 part of it is a language barrier, perhaps.

00:28:16.840 But, you know,

00:28:17.500 given the backdrop of President Trump

00:28:19.580 and the back and forth that we're having,

00:28:21.320 we're still in the middle of a tit for tat with war.

00:28:23.860 I want,

00:28:24.580 with a trade war,

00:28:25.740 I want to just quickly,

00:28:27.500 Chris,

00:28:28.420 before I get your reaction,

00:28:30.540 just the latest,

00:28:32.200 is that Premier Ford in Ontario

00:28:34.320 said that they,

00:28:35.520 Ontario will slap the 25% levy

00:28:37.560 on U.S.-bound electricity.

00:28:39.340 So he's going to go through with that

00:28:40.720 even though we had heard

00:28:41.700 that President Trump

00:28:42.560 was pausing

00:28:43.480 most of the tariffs

00:28:44.560 due to the NAFTA,

00:28:45.860 the U.S. MCA agreement.

00:28:47.400 And in response,

00:28:48.880 President Trump on Monday

00:28:50.520 was quite angry about it.

00:28:52.080 So I want to read

00:28:52.700 a Truth Social post

00:28:53.980 that he put up.

00:28:54.720 He said,

00:28:55.020 despite the fact that Canada

00:28:56.440 is charging the U.S.

00:28:58.740 from 250% to 390% tariffs

00:29:01.080 on many of our fawn products,

00:29:02.940 Ontario just announced

00:29:03.880 a 25% surcharge

00:29:05.100 on electricity of all things,

00:29:06.540 and you're not even allowed to do that.

00:29:08.940 Because our tariffs are reciprocal,

00:29:11.220 we'll just get it all back

00:29:12.740 on April 2nd.

00:29:13.860 Canada is a tariff abuser

00:29:15.340 and always has been,

00:29:16.940 but the United States

00:29:17.700 is not going to be subsidizing

00:29:20.100 Canada any longer.

00:29:21.340 We don't need your cars,

00:29:22.560 we don't need your lumber,

00:29:23.600 we don't need your energy,

00:29:24.900 and very soon you will find out

00:29:26.380 Make America Great Again

00:29:27.720 with three exclamation points.

00:29:29.500 So it seems to me

00:29:30.600 that Doug Ford

00:29:32.140 is just making everything worse.

00:29:34.780 And again,

00:29:35.440 those clips of people

00:29:36.600 like Jean Chrétien,

00:29:37.860 they circulate,

00:29:38.760 the Americans see them,

00:29:39.740 they know that Canadians

00:29:40.800 are mocking them

00:29:41.860 and joking about

00:29:42.600 burning down their White House

00:29:43.780 at the convention

00:29:44.800 where they're naming

00:29:46.040 the new prime minister.

00:29:47.300 I mean,

00:29:47.620 it's not a good look.

00:29:48.520 What do you think?

00:29:49.380 Not a great look.

00:29:50.420 And years in radio

00:29:51.920 and of listening

00:29:52.560 to former Prime Minister Chrétien,

00:29:54.380 I think what he said was

00:29:55.540 I'm too old to do it,

00:29:57.680 not told to do it.

00:29:59.180 So maybe even a little bit

00:30:00.900 more gasoline

00:30:02.700 dumped on the fire.

00:30:03.660 Like I'm too old to do it now.

00:30:05.240 You guys go do it, yeah.

00:30:06.640 So I'll just take off

00:30:08.760 my CTF hat for a second here.

00:30:10.980 In more of a radio host mode,

00:30:12.980 I've interviewed

00:30:13.680 like probably thousands of people

00:30:15.760 from literally every place,

00:30:17.820 like a prime minister

00:30:18.640 and people literally

00:30:19.900 locked in prison.

00:30:20.580 You really need to

00:30:23.120 kind of de-escalate

00:30:24.580 a situation

00:30:25.420 when they're trying

00:30:26.280 to get a point across

00:30:27.200 or you're trying

00:30:27.700 to truly be heard

00:30:28.780 or have someone else

00:30:30.140 feel they're being heard.

00:30:31.880 So usually the rule is

00:30:33.160 de-escalate,

00:30:34.840 find common ground

00:30:36.060 and work towards a solution.

00:30:38.580 Those three things

00:30:39.700 work well

00:30:40.860 in most arguments.

00:30:43.320 This just seems

00:30:44.460 to be dumping

00:30:45.100 more gas on it.

00:30:46.620 And the sad thing is,

00:30:47.720 is that it's always

00:30:48.620 the normal working people,

00:30:50.340 Candice,

00:30:50.880 that bear the brunt of this.

00:30:53.240 There's a famous picture

00:30:54.880 of a chess board

00:30:55.740 where it shows pawns

00:30:57.040 and knights

00:30:57.580 and rooks

00:30:58.420 all lying down,

00:30:59.460 bloodied on the battlefield

00:31:00.800 of ideas

00:31:01.640 or an actual battlefield.

00:31:03.120 And the king and queen

00:31:04.100 of both sets,

00:31:05.040 the black and the white,

00:31:06.080 over on the side

00:31:06.900 having dinner.

00:31:08.420 Right?

00:31:08.800 And it just always feels

00:31:10.180 like it's the average

00:31:11.160 working person,

00:31:12.020 the small business person,

00:31:13.540 the beef farmer,

00:31:14.300 that person,

00:31:15.500 the oil patch worker

00:31:17.180 that is going to get kicked 0.67

00:31:18.920 over this sort of stuff.

00:31:20.840 Now,

00:31:21.260 as far as whether

00:31:22.200 or not to slap

00:31:23.040 extra export tariffs

00:31:24.920 on power,

00:31:26.140 I don't know.

00:31:26.860 I'm of two minds of that

00:31:27.780 because I recently heard

00:31:29.320 listening to our

00:31:30.260 former colleague,

00:31:30.920 Brian Lilly,

00:31:32.080 talk about this.

00:31:33.700 And he's our

00:31:34.120 former Sun News colleague.

00:31:35.440 And he talked about this

00:31:36.620 on some podcasts

00:31:37.420 on Sunday,

00:31:38.140 probably on yours as well,

00:31:39.460 where he pointed out

00:31:40.740 that that's the only thing

00:31:42.600 that really got

00:31:43.240 a lot of attention

00:31:44.000 in the States

00:31:45.120 of like,

00:31:45.700 hey,

00:31:46.160 I'm going to make

00:31:46.880 your power costs more,

00:31:47.980 smarten up.

00:31:49.320 Is that wise?

00:31:50.340 I don't know.

00:31:51.240 It's a really great question.

00:31:52.760 What I'm worried about

00:31:53.840 is that if we do

00:31:55.280 reciprocal tit-for-tat

00:31:56.580 tariffs,

00:31:57.020 so to speak,

00:31:58.020 all that is

00:31:58.940 is a tax on imports.

00:32:01.180 It's just a tax.

00:32:02.480 It just means

00:32:03.260 that we're tying

00:32:03.840 our own shoelaces together

00:32:05.040 and punching ourselves

00:32:06.340 in the face

00:32:06.980 before we get into a fight

00:32:08.440 with somebody

00:32:08.900 who's much stronger

00:32:09.740 and much bigger than us.

00:32:11.040 And I'm really worried

00:32:12.300 that it's going to be

00:32:13.540 oil and gas workers

00:32:14.940 here in Alberta,

00:32:16.080 that it's eventually

00:32:16.920 going to be

00:32:17.680 a farmer or a producer

00:32:18.840 across the prairie,

00:32:19.980 that it's going to be

00:32:20.820 that auto worker

00:32:21.620 in Ontario

00:32:22.380 that's going to be

00:32:23.480 out of a job.

00:32:24.860 And that's a real thing.

00:32:26.220 That's just not a tally

00:32:27.300 on a spreadsheet.

00:32:28.220 That is someone's home.

00:32:29.640 That is someone's ability

00:32:30.640 to buy food

00:32:31.600 for their kids.

00:32:32.860 And so I really

00:32:33.700 am hoping

00:32:34.260 that some of these leaders

00:32:35.420 kind of pull

00:32:36.640 some of the lemon

00:32:37.760 out of this

00:32:38.960 and really work

00:32:40.200 on getting a deal.

00:32:41.120 Like, for example,

00:32:42.460 Alberta Premier Daniel Smith

00:32:44.260 has been down there

00:32:45.800 pleading and doing

00:32:47.180 a charm offensive

00:32:47.940 and really trying

00:32:48.740 to engage with these folks,

00:32:49.860 including U.S. President

00:32:50.940 Donald Trump.

00:32:51.620 She went to Mar-a-Lago.

00:32:53.100 She's trying to deal

00:32:53.940 directly with governors

00:32:55.060 saying,

00:32:55.640 hi, do you really want

00:32:57.000 35 cents more

00:32:58.040 per gallon for gasoline?

00:32:59.320 Because that's

00:32:59.700 what's going to happen.

00:33:00.720 That's smart.

00:33:01.940 And last I heard,

00:33:02.880 she's actually heading

00:33:03.620 down to Florida.

00:33:04.880 She's going to be speaking

00:33:05.800 with the Daily Wire,

00:33:07.280 Ben Shapiro,

00:33:08.040 and the whole lot of them.

00:33:09.360 That's good

00:33:10.160 because Trump

00:33:11.680 listens to that media.

00:33:13.420 That's like going

00:33:14.040 on Fox News

00:33:14.900 on a bit of steroids.

00:33:16.220 So it's smart

00:33:17.180 to get that message

00:33:18.220 out there.

00:33:19.180 I'm concerned, though,

00:33:20.280 if they just keep

00:33:21.080 heaping heated rhetoric

00:33:22.500 on up here,

00:33:23.860 that it's just going

00:33:24.780 to make the bear angrier.

00:33:26.540 Well, to stick

00:33:27.360 with Danielle Smith,

00:33:28.420 I mean, it's interesting

00:33:29.060 because Premier Doug Ford

00:33:30.240 sort of seems like

00:33:30.960 a bull in a china shop.

00:33:31.940 Like, sometimes I see him

00:33:32.780 going on Fox News

00:33:33.600 and he's making

00:33:34.320 a really compelling case

00:33:35.320 saying, like,

00:33:35.840 let's build

00:33:36.460 a better relationship.

00:33:37.540 He calls it Can-Am.

00:33:38.840 Let's further integrate

00:33:40.040 our markets

00:33:40.460 and have more freedom.

00:33:41.480 And that's great.

00:33:42.080 That's good Ford.

00:33:43.180 And then there's

00:33:43.800 the other side,

00:33:44.400 which is like,

00:33:45.280 OK, let's dump our chest

00:33:46.980 and we're going to really

00:33:47.760 make you hurt Americans. 0.77

00:33:49.620 And the reality is

00:33:50.700 that they are

00:33:51.560 a much bigger market.

00:33:52.500 They can make us

00:33:53.100 hurt a lot more.

00:33:53.840 And so to bring it

00:33:54.640 back to Danielle Smith,

00:33:55.360 we had Premier Ford

00:33:57.100 yesterday at a press conference

00:33:59.280 calling on Premier

00:34:00.640 Danielle Smith of Alberta

00:34:01.880 to add an export tax

00:34:03.580 on Alberta oil.

00:34:04.680 So he wants Danielle Smith 0.71

00:34:05.940 and the province of Alberta

00:34:06.900 to follow their path

00:34:08.260 by taxing natural resources.

00:34:10.600 Let's play that clip.

00:34:12.620 We have to remember

00:34:13.620 the 4.3 million barrels

00:34:15.180 of oil that's coming

00:34:17.200 from Alberta.

00:34:18.520 As Premier Smith said

00:34:20.800 on our comments,

00:34:22.000 I think over the last

00:34:22.760 couple of days,

00:34:23.760 she has the Trump card.

00:34:25.080 Well, a message

00:34:26.000 to Premier Smith,

00:34:27.420 one day I think

00:34:28.620 you might have to use

00:34:29.720 that Trump card.

00:34:30.460 and give approval

00:34:32.880 for an export tax

00:34:34.440 because you want

00:34:36.000 to talk about

00:34:36.820 a Trump card,

00:34:38.200 that will instantly

00:34:39.660 change the game.

00:34:42.640 Instantly change the game.

00:34:43.900 Well, Smith,

00:34:45.000 to her credit,

00:34:46.080 basically instantly

00:34:46.960 shot this down.

00:34:48.280 So writing on X

00:34:49.340 and responding

00:34:49.860 to Premier Ford,

00:34:50.600 she said,

00:34:51.180 let me be clear,

00:34:52.320 Alberta will never agree

00:34:53.880 to such an absurd

00:34:55.040 and self-destructive idea,

00:34:57.800 among other things.

00:34:58.940 Now, not only would it

00:35:00.000 be self-destructive

00:35:00.820 for Alberta

00:35:01.800 in an era

00:35:02.880 where the federal government

00:35:04.200 has done everything

00:35:04.860 it can, Chris,

00:35:06.440 to hit Alberta,

00:35:08.920 to prevent Alberta

00:35:09.860 from reaching

00:35:10.920 its true potential

00:35:12.520 and landlocking

00:35:14.340 its oil.

00:35:15.160 But also,

00:35:16.820 Ontario gets its oil

00:35:18.240 via a pipeline

00:35:19.960 that goes

00:35:20.340 through the United States.

00:35:21.200 So just on its face,

00:35:22.900 this is so absurd

00:35:23.840 for the Premier of Ontario

00:35:25.300 to be telling

00:35:25.900 the Premier of Alberta

00:35:26.660 to put a tax on oil

00:35:28.180 when that is the oil

00:35:29.900 that goes through

00:35:30.820 the United States

00:35:31.580 and back up

00:35:32.480 through Line 9

00:35:33.160 up into Sarnia

00:35:34.380 and across Ontario.

00:35:35.740 It's just so absurd.

00:35:37.180 Good for Daniel Smith

00:35:38.120 to knock that one down.

00:35:39.480 What do you think?

00:35:40.280 Yeah.

00:35:40.780 As an Albertan

00:35:41.820 and as somebody

00:35:42.780 who keeps an eye

00:35:43.440 on how much money

00:35:44.340 the energy sector

00:35:45.520 pulls in here,

00:35:46.320 the oil patch

00:35:46.900 pulls in here,

00:35:47.580 when he says things

00:35:48.800 like that,

00:35:49.140 like it makes

00:35:49.480 my scalp crawl.

00:35:51.320 Like, no, no,

00:35:52.940 you cannot do that.

00:35:54.060 And it's almost,

00:35:55.200 it's good to look

00:35:56.020 at kind of the economy

00:35:56.880 of scale here

00:35:57.740 and what we're talking about.

00:35:59.240 So if Ford, for example,

00:36:01.460 is trying to put

00:36:02.540 some pressure

00:36:03.100 on the administration

00:36:04.560 and the White House

00:36:05.420 through, say,

00:36:06.320 the auto sector,

00:36:08.140 talking around

00:36:09.320 that issue is smart

00:36:10.460 because we know

00:36:12.080 that that auto sector

00:36:14.200 between Michigan

00:36:15.080 and Ontario

00:36:15.720 is so integrated

00:36:17.160 that a vehicle

00:36:18.580 from start to finish

00:36:20.260 with all of its components

00:36:21.600 and parts

00:36:22.180 might have crossed

00:36:23.400 that Windsor Bridge

00:36:24.460 like 15 times.

00:36:26.500 It's just,

00:36:27.040 it's basically

00:36:27.640 the same organism,

00:36:29.900 the auto sector,

00:36:31.120 back, forth, back, forth.

00:36:32.780 So Ford would be wise

00:36:35.140 to try to hammer out,

00:36:36.900 help hammer out

00:36:37.620 a new deal with Trump

00:36:38.700 using the auto sector

00:36:40.480 kind of as a vehicle,

00:36:42.460 pardon my metaphor.

00:36:44.160 So, but it's a smaller portion

00:36:46.180 of the Ontario economy

00:36:48.120 than, say, the oil patch

00:36:50.120 oil and gas

00:36:51.120 is here for Alberta.

00:36:52.840 And exactly to your point,

00:36:55.120 thanks to the federal government

00:36:56.940 dragging its feet

00:36:58.120 and strangling

00:36:59.400 our resource projects

00:37:00.740 and our pipelines,

00:37:02.280 Alberta really has

00:37:03.420 only one customer.

00:37:05.000 Yes, we have one pipeline

00:37:06.220 that goes out

00:37:06.820 to the West Coast,

00:37:07.680 but we don't have

00:37:08.800 the international market access

00:37:10.340 to be able to say,

00:37:12.260 oh, that's fine.

00:37:13.220 We'll just sell elsewhere.

00:37:14.700 No, we've been told

00:37:15.920 we can't do that

00:37:16.880 for the past 10 years.

00:37:17.980 And that is why

00:37:19.040 we sell at a discount

00:37:20.340 down to the United States.

00:37:22.620 Now, there are

00:37:23.200 some intricacies there

00:37:24.300 where there are

00:37:24.800 some refineries,

00:37:25.820 especially in the

00:37:26.460 northern United States

00:37:27.440 that have adapted

00:37:28.540 to our form of oil sands,

00:37:30.500 bitumen.

00:37:31.240 They would have to

00:37:32.100 retool a bit

00:37:32.980 if they were suddenly

00:37:33.900 trying to find other markets.

00:37:35.620 But frankly,

00:37:36.480 they get oil

00:37:37.360 from other places too.

00:37:38.980 It would be easier

00:37:39.800 for the Americans

00:37:40.520 to decide to get oil

00:37:41.920 from other places too

00:37:43.040 if we started messing around,

00:37:45.420 heaven forbid,

00:37:45.880 with an export tax

00:37:47.420 on our energy.

00:37:48.200 And so that's why

00:37:48.940 you see Danielle Smith

00:37:50.280 saying, like,

00:37:51.160 hell will freeze over

00:37:52.480 before that happens.

00:37:54.020 And that is definitely

00:37:55.000 the smart thing

00:37:55.660 for her to say.

00:37:57.100 Chris Sims,

00:37:57.620 thank you so much.

00:37:58.260 It's always a pleasure

00:37:58.700 to have you on the show.

00:37:59.460 Great to see you today

00:38:00.180 and thanks for your time.

00:38:01.220 Thanks, Candice.

00:38:02.520 All right, everybody.

00:38:03.200 We are going to stick

00:38:04.560 with this topic

00:38:05.380 of election integrity,

00:38:06.760 but we're going to

00:38:07.620 shift gears a little bit

00:38:08.700 and talk about something

00:38:10.000 that has been uncovered

00:38:10.880 in the province of Ontario.

00:38:13.520 And to discuss this,

00:38:14.220 I'm pleased to be joined

00:38:15.020 by Clayton Demain,

00:38:16.340 who is a journalist

00:38:17.100 with True North.

00:38:18.180 Clayton, welcome

00:38:18.720 to the program.

00:38:19.460 Thanks for being here.

00:38:20.820 Thanks for having me.

00:38:22.060 Okay, so tell us

00:38:22.980 about the story

00:38:23.580 that you broke over

00:38:24.620 at True North

00:38:25.820 on our website,

00:38:26.880 Juno News,

00:38:27.760 exclusive elections

00:38:29.260 Ontario probing video

00:38:31.220 alleging election flaws.

00:38:34.080 Ontario is investigating

00:38:35.780 after a whistleblower

00:38:36.620 filmed an expose

00:38:37.420 claiming to reveal

00:38:38.500 vulnerabilities

00:38:39.000 in the Ontario

00:38:41.100 voting process.

00:38:42.520 Clayton, why don't you

00:38:42.880 tell us about the story

00:38:43.980 and tell us about

00:38:44.460 the whistleblower

00:38:45.060 that you've been talking to.

00:38:46.700 Yeah, so absolutely.

00:38:47.940 The whistleblower is,

00:38:50.420 he didn't want to give

00:38:51.060 his full name

00:38:51.800 because he's afraid

00:38:53.180 of legal reprisal,

00:38:55.020 but he said his name

00:38:56.240 is Spencer.

00:38:56.900 He operates

00:38:57.700 the YouTube channel

00:38:58.780 Make Canada Great Again

00:39:00.520 or MCGA.

00:39:02.600 And so what he did

00:39:03.700 is he used

00:39:04.560 a fake bank statement

00:39:06.340 with fake names

00:39:07.640 and phony addresses

00:39:09.260 to expose

00:39:10.900 the vulnerabilities

00:39:11.860 in the election

00:39:12.600 or purporting

00:39:13.980 to expose

00:39:14.840 vulnerabilities

00:39:15.720 in the voting

00:39:17.220 system in Ontario.

00:39:19.540 So he did show us

00:39:20.960 the images he used.

00:39:23.220 He just edited

00:39:23.880 a TV bank statement,

00:39:25.920 changed some of the names.

00:39:29.640 Yeah, and so he was able

00:39:30.820 to get all the way

00:39:31.540 up to the point

00:39:32.180 of attestation

00:39:33.540 where you're signing

00:39:34.460 the iPad

00:39:35.180 and that's just

00:39:36.820 you're saying

00:39:37.460 I am who I say I am.

00:39:39.960 You know,

00:39:40.380 my age is accurate.

00:39:41.340 My address is correct.

00:39:43.460 I had to do this myself.

00:39:46.720 But yeah,

00:39:47.520 so he got up to that point,

00:39:49.060 but he didn't want

00:39:50.040 to vote fraudulently.

00:39:51.920 He considers himself

00:39:53.280 a patriot.

00:39:55.280 So he didn't do that,

00:39:58.520 but he did vote once

00:40:00.520 with his real address

00:40:01.900 and his real name

00:40:02.900 in the writing

00:40:04.360 that he's supposed

00:40:05.020 to be in

00:40:05.760 using the same method.

00:40:08.900 So he went

00:40:11.180 to 13 different ridings

00:40:12.900 and did this.

00:40:15.260 And so I guess

00:40:16.920 like his whole point

00:40:18.040 is to show

00:40:18.940 the problems

00:40:20.020 with not having

00:40:20.980 voter ID.

00:40:23.020 You could just

00:40:24.080 potentially vote

00:40:25.360 multiple times

00:40:26.960 using different addresses.

00:40:29.320 There are laws

00:40:30.500 against, you know,

00:40:32.780 voter fraud,

00:40:33.420 but the question is

00:40:35.160 like would they

00:40:36.340 would they be able

00:40:36.980 to catch this?

00:40:38.240 Elections Ontario

00:40:38.980 did not tell us

00:40:41.200 when we asked

00:40:41.920 and the first article

00:40:44.600 we published

00:40:45.200 was a week ago.

00:40:46.080 They still haven't told us

00:40:47.740 whether or not

00:40:49.060 there's any checks

00:40:49.760 and balances

00:40:50.400 beyond the point

00:40:52.060 of attestation

00:40:52.840 that would have prevented

00:40:53.680 somebody from

00:40:54.660 committing voter fraud.

00:40:55.800 Yeah.

00:40:58.320 It's really believable.

00:40:59.180 I mean this is true

00:41:00.220 investigative journalism,

00:41:01.360 right?

00:41:01.500 This individual

00:41:02.080 went out

00:41:03.180 and did something.

00:41:03.840 He was wearing

00:41:04.400 a camera

00:41:05.640 so that he could

00:41:06.480 film it

00:41:07.020 but he's just

00:41:08.020 going to show

00:41:08.580 how easy it is.

00:41:09.340 Like you can literally

00:41:10.020 just show up

00:41:10.760 and say,

00:41:11.260 oh I don't have an ID

00:41:12.000 and talk to,

00:41:13.640 basically talk people

00:41:14.780 into it

00:41:15.160 which is what

00:41:15.600 the video

00:41:16.200 that we were just

00:41:16.700 showing shows.

00:41:18.220 He's just able

00:41:18.600 to talk his way through

00:41:19.600 and eventually get

00:41:20.900 to a place

00:41:21.280 where you don't even

00:41:21.940 really need an ID.

00:41:22.500 you could just

00:41:22.920 sign your name

00:41:23.640 and there is an update

00:41:25.080 in the story

00:41:26.060 today Clayton

00:41:26.780 because the same

00:41:28.020 whistleblower

00:41:28.580 reached out to us

00:41:29.460 sent us an email

00:41:30.680 that had been

00:41:31.480 sent to him

00:41:32.480 from Elections Ontario

00:41:34.180 demanding

00:41:35.220 that he take down

00:41:36.860 the YouTube video.

00:41:38.540 So it says

00:41:38.960 thank you for

00:41:39.420 contacting Elections Ontario

00:41:40.760 upon further review

00:41:41.660 we have determined

00:41:42.300 that the video here

00:41:43.500 has violated

00:41:44.240 the privacy

00:41:45.060 of our staff.

00:41:46.460 We are requesting

00:41:47.000 that you remove

00:41:48.220 the video

00:41:48.780 immediately

00:41:49.860 and we blurred out

00:41:51.420 the name

00:41:51.840 of the official

00:41:52.780 there

00:41:53.180 but basically

00:41:54.260 they have been

00:41:55.540 caught red-handed

00:41:56.560 not enforcing

00:41:57.880 the rules

00:41:58.400 or maybe the rules

00:41:59.140 aren't there

00:41:59.440 to begin with

00:42:00.100 and so their response

00:42:01.440 is to basically

00:42:02.600 make something up

00:42:03.000 because from best

00:42:03.500 I can tell

00:42:04.040 Clayton

00:42:04.420 the video

00:42:04.800 that we just showed

00:42:05.420 doesn't violate

00:42:07.160 anybody's privacy rights

00:42:08.360 because everybody's

00:42:09.260 face is blurred out

00:42:09.940 you have no idea

00:42:10.620 who the people are

00:42:11.540 you just know

00:42:12.340 that it's a voting

00:42:12.860 station in Ontario

00:42:14.520 so what do you

00:42:16.380 think of this

00:42:17.180 recent update

00:42:18.020 this latest update?

00:42:19.600 Yeah so he did

00:42:20.500 send me that email

00:42:21.320 and you know

00:42:22.580 they didn't

00:42:23.080 they didn't address

00:42:23.920 his concerns

00:42:24.660 with the voter

00:42:25.540 vulnerabilities

00:42:26.260 when we reached out

00:42:27.460 they also didn't

00:42:29.160 they just said

00:42:29.700 they were investigating

00:42:30.540 the video

00:42:31.500 and they didn't say

00:42:32.620 are they investigating

00:42:34.060 the vulnerabilities

00:42:35.140 that he's purporting

00:42:36.120 to expose

00:42:36.760 or are they just

00:42:37.840 investigating him

00:42:39.340 to try to slap him

00:42:40.680 with fines

00:42:41.220 for exposing

00:42:41.940 these things

00:42:42.540 so I would

00:42:44.540 I look forward

00:42:45.280 to hearing back

00:42:46.100 from Elections Ontario

00:42:47.100 on what they're doing here

00:42:48.680 I would like

00:42:50.280 I

00:42:50.780 we even asked them

00:42:52.340 you know

00:42:52.980 like do you even

00:42:53.800 take this seriously

00:42:54.840 so like

00:42:57.380 I would like to hear

00:42:58.460 back from them

00:42:59.180 on that

00:42:59.800 but you know

00:43:00.440 his concern

00:43:01.260 was really that

00:43:02.000 like you know

00:43:02.940 are they gonna

00:43:03.700 are they gonna

00:43:04.280 catch

00:43:04.700 catch this sort

00:43:06.480 of voter fraud

00:43:07.700 from happening

00:43:08.980 and even if they do

00:43:10.460 will they discount

00:43:11.760 the vote

00:43:12.160 and if

00:43:12.980 and what if

00:43:13.620 it's someone

00:43:14.080 we're talking a lot

00:43:14.920 about foreign

00:43:15.380 interference these days

00:43:16.500 what if somebody

00:43:18.040 just comes from

00:43:19.780 you know

00:43:20.280 does this method

00:43:21.140 votes multiple times

00:43:22.560 they're not even

00:43:23.440 a Canadian citizen

00:43:25.060 or a resident here

00:43:26.320 and by the time

00:43:27.660 they catch something

00:43:28.320 like this

00:43:28.780 they might be

00:43:29.240 out of the country

00:43:29.920 so you know

00:43:31.300 it does pose

00:43:32.920 a bunch of questions

00:43:33.820 about the integrity

00:43:35.200 of elections

00:43:36.160 and it's not just

00:43:38.280 Ontario

00:43:38.700 I want to tie this

00:43:39.560 back to what

00:43:40.260 just happened

00:43:40.700 on Sunday evening

00:43:41.460 Clayton

00:43:41.960 because as you

00:43:42.440 probably saw

00:43:43.080 we were told

00:43:43.900 that there were

00:43:44.400 400,000

00:43:45.500 registered liberals

00:43:46.620 we know that

00:43:47.260 the liberal party

00:43:47.900 rules mean

00:43:48.920 that you don't

00:43:49.620 have to be

00:43:50.360 a citizen

00:43:51.840 of Canada

00:43:52.440 to be a registered

00:43:53.340 voter

00:43:53.660 you don't have

00:43:54.660 to even be

00:43:55.340 of legal voting

00:43:56.300 age federally

00:43:57.940 you could be

00:43:58.380 14 years

00:43:59.140 or older

00:43:59.960 and you don't

00:44:00.660 have to pay

00:44:01.040 any money

00:44:01.320 unlike other

00:44:01.880 political parties

00:44:02.480 in order to

00:44:02.980 be a member

00:44:03.520 considered eligible

00:44:04.780 to vote

00:44:05.100 you have to

00:44:05.740 pay a very

00:44:06.460 nominal fee

00:44:07.000 maybe five

00:44:07.620 five dollars

00:44:08.120 ten dollars

00:44:08.560 twenty dollars

00:44:08.920 something like

00:44:09.260 that

00:44:09.500 in in

00:44:10.480 for the liberals

00:44:11.060 you don't

00:44:11.320 do any of

00:44:11.740 those things

00:44:12.080 so we're told

00:44:12.520 that they had

00:44:12.920 400,000

00:44:13.940 registered members

00:44:14.800 and yet

00:44:15.400 when it came

00:44:15.980 to the vote

00:44:17.220 on Sunday

00:44:17.740 evening

00:44:18.000 to select

00:44:18.900 the new

00:44:19.280 prime minister

00:44:19.820 and 85%

00:44:20.980 of the race

00:44:22.160 we were told

00:44:22.620 went for

00:44:23.340 Mark Carney

00:44:23.980 but that

00:44:24.360 only includes

00:44:25.200 151,899

00:44:27.820 people who voted

00:44:28.460 so we were told

00:44:29.340 there were 400,000

00:44:30.280 and yet only

00:44:31.320 151 and change

00:44:34.300 thousand people

00:44:35.340 voted

00:44:35.700 fewer than 40%

00:44:37.520 so that means

00:44:37.960 60% of people

00:44:39.160 on their own list

00:44:40.080 did not vote

00:44:41.500 I mean in

00:44:42.600 this conversation

00:44:43.600 about integrity

00:44:44.640 of our voting

00:44:45.680 system

00:44:46.100 what do you

00:44:47.440 think about that

00:44:48.440 yeah I mean

00:44:50.220 there was a lot

00:44:51.360 of concerns

00:44:51.960 early on

00:44:53.020 in the race

00:44:53.560 when people

00:44:54.100 were just

00:44:55.180 signing up

00:44:55.980 one person

00:44:56.740 signed up

00:44:57.420 their dead

00:44:58.500 dog

00:44:58.920 I think it

00:44:59.340 was Dahlia

00:44:59.880 Kurtz

00:45:00.420 there was

00:45:02.940 one who

00:45:03.620 signed up

00:45:04.260 on the

00:45:04.900 Chinese consulate

00:45:05.920 so essentially

00:45:06.640 Xi Jinping

00:45:07.900 could you

00:45:09.680 know the

00:45:09.880 president

00:45:10.240 of the

00:45:11.240 dictator

00:45:11.660 of China

00:45:12.200 could vote

00:45:13.020 in our

00:45:13.280 elections

00:45:13.720 potentially

00:45:14.380 so they

00:45:15.580 did seem

00:45:15.980 to address

00:45:16.460 some of

00:45:16.800 those concerns

00:45:18.060 that you

00:45:18.640 couldn't

00:45:18.960 you didn't

00:45:19.260 even have

00:45:19.540 to be

00:45:19.760 a citizen

00:45:20.840 to vote

00:45:21.340 at one

00:45:21.780 point

00:45:22.020 but they

00:45:22.400 they changed

00:45:23.320 that to be

00:45:24.180 you know

00:45:25.160 at least a

00:45:25.840 permanent

00:45:26.080 resident

00:45:26.480 I believe

00:45:26.960 I could

00:45:27.760 have that

00:45:28.120 wrong

00:45:28.460 but they

00:45:29.220 did

00:45:29.400 they did

00:45:29.840 address

00:45:30.380 some of

00:45:30.800 those concerns

00:45:31.440 but federally

00:45:32.560 like that's

00:45:33.060 a good point

00:45:33.520 because

00:45:33.960 like in terms

00:45:36.180 of the

00:45:36.460 general election

00:45:37.120 that's

00:45:37.640 you know

00:45:37.940 incoming

00:45:38.420 you just

00:45:40.020 need

00:45:40.400 the rules

00:45:41.180 aren't

00:45:41.460 like are

00:45:42.200 a little

00:45:42.500 bit more

00:45:42.880 strict

00:45:43.240 than Ontario's

00:45:44.300 election

00:45:44.680 but you

00:45:45.380 could still

00:45:45.820 just use

00:45:46.300 two pieces

00:45:46.820 of document

00:45:47.520 documentation

00:45:48.600 with your

00:45:49.200 name and

00:45:49.520 address

00:45:49.960 so you

00:45:50.740 could use

00:45:51.060 an utility

00:45:51.720 bill

00:45:52.240 and a

00:45:52.580 bank

00:45:52.780 statement

00:45:53.180 so

00:45:54.320 there's

00:45:56.500 still

00:45:56.780 potentially

00:45:57.700 concerns

00:45:58.300 in our

00:45:58.900 federal

00:45:59.180 election

00:45:59.580 if

00:45:59.840 there's

00:46:00.620 not

00:46:00.900 if it's

00:46:02.320 not

00:46:02.520 proven

00:46:02.980 that

00:46:03.240 there is

00:46:04.020 these

00:46:04.260 checks

00:46:04.520 and balances

00:46:05.020 beyond that

00:46:05.640 point

00:46:05.960 and I

00:46:06.680 just want

00:46:07.000 to add

00:46:07.300 like

00:46:07.500 when I

00:46:08.940 went

00:46:09.180 into the

00:46:09.620 Ontario

00:46:10.020 election

00:46:10.880 I didn't

00:46:11.440 have

00:46:11.620 I moved

00:46:12.100 recently

00:46:12.560 so I

00:46:12.920 had to

00:46:13.180 use

00:46:13.420 a

00:46:13.720 what I

00:46:15.260 used

00:46:15.540 I didn't

00:46:15.980 have a

00:46:16.240 voter

00:46:16.440 information

00:46:17.300 card

00:46:17.780 I just

00:46:18.140 had

00:46:18.440 an Amazon

00:46:19.380 receipt

00:46:19.960 I did

00:46:20.820 show them

00:46:21.300 my IDs

00:46:21.920 so that

00:46:22.440 but that

00:46:22.800 wasn't

00:46:23.080 necessary

00:46:23.680 like I

00:46:24.440 showed

00:46:24.660 them

00:46:24.780 like hey

00:46:25.060 I am

00:46:25.420 who I

00:46:25.720 say

00:46:25.940 I am

00:46:26.360 and it's

00:46:26.960 funny

00:46:27.160 because

00:46:27.340 the

00:46:27.500 receipt

00:46:27.840 said

00:46:28.260 I have

00:46:29.620 two

00:46:29.880 last

00:46:30.180 names

00:46:30.300 I

00:46:30.700 said

00:46:31.100 Clayton

00:46:31.520 Domain

00:46:31.860 on the

00:46:32.140 receipt

00:46:32.500 but my

00:46:33.380 legal name

00:46:34.320 is Clayton

00:46:34.720 Domain

00:46:34.940 Pratt

00:46:35.260 I just

00:46:35.580 shorten it

00:46:36.040 for

00:46:36.320 media

00:46:37.060 so like

00:46:38.720 my name

00:46:39.180 didn't

00:46:39.420 my ID

00:46:39.940 names

00:46:40.380 didn't even

00:46:40.780 match the

00:46:41.260 receipt

00:46:41.640 and I was

00:46:42.100 still able

00:46:42.480 to vote

00:46:42.860 like you

00:46:43.480 know

00:46:43.640 luckily I'm

00:46:44.180 not committing

00:46:45.580 fraud

00:46:46.020 but it does

00:46:46.660 like this

00:46:47.240 this story

00:46:47.960 did make

00:46:48.380 me go

00:46:48.640 huh

00:46:48.880 like I

00:46:49.240 didn't

00:46:49.360 even really

00:46:49.740 think about

00:46:50.440 how

00:46:51.140 potentially

00:46:52.140 vulnerable

00:46:52.620 that

00:46:53.020 makes our

00:46:54.140 elections

00:46:54.860 well

00:46:55.780 it's

00:46:55.900 interesting

00:46:56.160 it kind

00:46:56.700 of

00:46:56.780 brought

00:46:56.920 me

00:46:57.020 back

00:46:57.220 because

00:46:57.340 when

00:46:57.460 I

00:46:57.560 was

00:46:57.720 in

00:46:57.860 university

00:46:58.340 I

00:46:58.620 went

00:46:58.860 to

00:46:58.940 the

00:46:59.000 university

00:46:59.220 of

00:46:59.380 Alberta

00:46:59.620 up in

00:46:59.900 Edmonton

00:47:00.280 and I

00:47:00.740 wanted

00:47:00.900 to vote

00:47:01.320 in the

00:47:01.620 PC

00:47:02.060 race

00:47:02.500 at the

00:47:02.740 time

00:47:03.040 to

00:47:03.440 replace

00:47:03.880 who

00:47:04.060 was

00:47:04.180 going

00:47:04.300 to

00:47:04.360 replace

00:47:04.700 Ralph

00:47:05.080 Klein

00:47:05.400 and I

00:47:06.460 went

00:47:06.760 to go

00:47:07.040 vote

00:47:07.240 but I

00:47:07.540 was

00:47:07.700 from

00:47:07.860 British

00:47:08.040 Columbia

00:47:08.340 so

00:47:08.660 my

00:47:08.880 ID

00:47:09.180 was

00:47:09.520 from

00:47:09.680 British

00:47:09.880 Columbia

00:47:10.180 but I

00:47:10.820 lived

00:47:11.060 in

00:47:11.200 Alberta

00:47:11.480 because

00:47:11.760 I

00:47:11.860 went

00:47:11.980 to

00:47:12.100 school

00:47:12.300 there

00:47:12.560 and

00:47:13.080 so

00:47:13.280 all

00:47:13.480 I

00:47:13.620 had

00:47:13.820 was

00:47:13.960 my

00:47:14.120 University

00:47:14.520 of

00:47:14.720 Alberta

00:47:15.040 student

00:47:15.580 ID

00:47:15.880 and

00:47:16.400 when

00:47:16.600 it

00:47:16.740 came

00:47:16.980 to

00:47:17.420 my

00:47:18.320 address

00:47:18.860 I

00:47:19.340 mean

00:47:19.500 I

00:47:19.660 lived

00:47:20.020 in

00:47:20.140 shared

00:47:20.320 housing

00:47:20.600 so

00:47:20.760 I

00:47:20.840 didn't

00:47:20.960 have

00:47:21.260 a

00:47:21.340 utility

00:47:21.600 bill

00:47:21.840 but

00:47:22.180 it

00:47:22.300 just

00:47:22.480 happened

00:47:22.840 in

00:47:23.140 my

00:47:23.320 backpack

00:47:23.720 to

00:47:24.400 have

00:47:24.840 a

00:47:25.400 magazine

00:47:26.380 that

00:47:26.640 I

00:47:26.760 subscribed

00:47:27.160 to

00:47:27.400 McLean's

00:47:27.940 at

00:47:28.020 the

00:47:28.120 time

00:47:28.400 and

00:47:29.240 it

00:47:29.460 had

00:47:29.660 my

00:47:29.920 address

00:47:30.420 in

00:47:30.860 the

00:47:31.060 constituency

00:47:31.880 and

00:47:32.700 so

00:47:32.820 they

00:47:32.960 let

00:47:33.100 me

00:47:33.220 vote

00:47:33.400 for

00:47:33.560 that

00:47:33.760 and

00:47:34.480 you

00:47:34.980 know

00:47:35.100 it's

00:47:35.240 kind

00:47:35.400 of

00:47:35.460 funny

00:47:35.580 I

00:47:35.700 did

00:47:35.820 have

00:47:36.000 photo

00:47:36.580 ID

00:47:36.860 but

00:47:37.340 didn't

00:47:37.500 have

00:47:37.600 my

00:47:37.700 address

00:47:37.920 on

00:47:38.100 it

00:47:38.220 and

00:47:38.360 then

00:47:38.460 I

00:47:38.520 had

00:47:38.640 to

00:47:38.700 use

00:47:38.800 a

00:47:38.920 magazine

00:47:39.220 and

00:47:39.380 if

00:47:39.760 I

00:47:39.920 hadn't

00:47:40.100 had

00:47:40.340 that

00:47:40.500 magazine

00:47:40.960 in

00:47:41.420 my

00:47:41.600 bag

00:47:41.980 they

00:47:42.360 wouldn't

00:47:42.560 have

00:47:42.660 let

00:47:42.760 me

00:47:42.860 vote

00:47:43.000 but

00:47:43.200 I

00:47:43.680 do

00:47:43.960 think

00:47:44.140 there

00:47:44.420 is

00:47:44.760 a

00:47:45.420 problem

00:47:45.860 when

00:47:46.380 you

00:47:46.640 can

00:47:46.800 talk

00:47:47.640 your

00:47:47.840 way

00:47:48.060 in

00:47:48.300 to

00:47:48.780 voting

00:47:49.120 and

00:47:49.720 it

00:47:51.020 shows

00:47:51.580 how

00:47:51.940 in

00:47:52.420 some

00:47:52.740 ways

00:47:53.100 our

00:47:53.900 system

00:47:54.220 is

00:47:54.380 not

00:47:54.740 secure

00:47:55.140 it's

00:47:55.900 fine

00:47:56.200 if

00:47:56.380 everybody

00:47:56.680 trusts

00:47:57.020 each

00:47:57.180 other

00:47:57.320 you

00:47:57.480 live

00:47:57.600 in

00:47:57.680 a

00:47:57.760 high

00:47:57.880 trust

00:47:58.080 society

00:47:58.480 where

00:47:58.760 the

00:47:59.920 person

00:48:00.320 back

00:48:00.820 in

00:48:00.960 the

00:48:01.060 day

00:48:01.180 when

00:48:01.320 I

00:48:01.400 was

00:48:01.500 voting

00:48:01.760 in

00:48:01.880 that

00:48:02.080 leadership

00:48:02.580 race

00:48:02.880 they

00:48:03.180 said

00:48:03.340 okay

00:48:03.560 this

00:48:03.760 person

00:48:04.020 is

00:48:04.120 obviously

00:48:04.380 who

00:48:04.520 she

00:48:04.660 says

00:48:04.880 she

00:48:05.020 is

00:48:05.200 she's

00:48:05.340 got

00:48:05.440 a

00:48:05.540 student

00:48:05.800 card

00:48:06.000 whatever

00:48:06.280 but

00:48:07.120 when

00:48:07.300 you

00:48:07.400 start

00:48:07.680 considering

00:48:08.100 it's

00:48:08.360 a

00:48:08.460 backdrop

00:48:08.800 of

00:48:09.300 we

00:48:09.600 know

00:48:09.860 we

00:48:10.120 have

00:48:10.480 foreign

00:48:11.080 entities

00:48:11.640 and

00:48:12.080 adversarial

00:48:12.660 actors

00:48:13.000 in

00:48:13.220 Canada

00:48:13.540 trying

00:48:13.880 to

00:48:14.060 thwart

00:48:14.260 our

00:48:14.400 democracy

00:48:14.860 and

00:48:15.000 undermine

00:48:15.580 our

00:48:16.260 votes

00:48:16.540 our

00:48:16.900 parliament

00:48:17.280 admitted

00:48:17.680 so

00:48:17.980 much

00:48:18.320 and

00:48:18.760 yet

00:48:18.920 we

00:48:19.100 still

00:48:19.340 don't

00:48:19.580 take

00:48:19.760 this

00:48:19.920 kind

00:48:20.100 of

00:48:20.180 thing

00:48:20.400 seriously

00:48:21.280 it's

00:48:21.440 quite

00:48:21.580 shocking

00:48:21.940 yeah

00:48:23.800 absolutely

00:48:24.140 yeah

00:48:25.080 I mean

00:48:25.440 it's

00:48:25.680 we're

00:48:26.120 just

00:48:26.280 operating

00:48:26.780 on

00:48:27.040 it

00:48:27.140 like

00:48:27.380 a

00:48:27.880 trust

00:48:28.240 system

00:48:28.760 essentially

00:48:29.260 which

00:48:30.000 I

00:48:30.480 agree

00:48:30.780 yeah

00:48:31.040 it's

00:48:31.280 like

00:48:31.520 when

00:48:31.900 because

00:48:32.460 that's

00:48:32.660 what

00:48:32.800 you

00:48:32.920 get

00:48:33.100 when

00:48:33.280 like

00:48:33.440 even

00:48:33.780 even

00:48:34.160 Spencer

00:48:34.520 was

00:48:34.720 talking

00:48:35.040 about

00:48:35.400 you

00:48:35.900 know

00:48:35.980 the

00:48:36.100 person

00:48:36.380 who

00:48:36.840 did

00:48:36.980 this

00:48:37.140 video

00:48:37.460 he

00:48:38.080 was

00:48:38.260 like

00:48:38.460 these

00:48:38.880 aren't

00:48:39.100 bad

00:48:39.400 people

00:48:39.740 who

00:48:39.900 are

00:48:40.000 the

00:48:40.140 elections

00:48:40.580 officers

00:48:41.140 like

00:48:41.440 they

00:48:41.580 want

00:48:41.900 to

00:48:42.080 trust

00:48:42.380 you

00:48:42.620 like

00:48:42.840 they

00:48:42.980 just

00:48:43.140 want

00:48:43.660 to

00:48:43.760 make

00:48:43.920 your

00:48:44.060 vote

00:48:44.320 easier

00:48:44.820 it's

00:48:45.360 not

00:48:45.520 their

00:48:45.780 fault

00:48:46.160 right

00:48:46.820 it's

00:48:47.200 like

00:48:47.580 but

00:48:47.760 like

00:48:48.000 it

00:48:48.400 does

00:48:48.680 make

00:48:48.940 you

00:48:49.100 think

00:48:49.480 kind

00:48:50.820 of

00:48:50.960 like

00:48:51.160 okay

00:48:51.400 well

00:48:51.560 maybe

00:48:51.760 we

00:48:51.980 should

00:48:52.140 rethink

00:48:52.540 this

00:48:52.820 especially

00:48:53.260 when

00:48:53.480 you

00:48:53.580 talk

00:48:53.860 about

00:48:54.200 the

00:48:54.720 foreign

00:48:54.960 interference

00:48:55.480 and

00:48:55.780 mass

00:48:58.440 immigration

00:48:59.080 whatever

00:48:59.560 so

00:49:00.000 we

00:49:00.400 don't

00:49:00.580 know

00:49:00.760 who's

00:49:01.120 if

00:49:01.660 you

00:49:01.780 don't

00:49:02.500 even

00:49:02.620 have

00:49:02.780 to

00:49:02.860 be

00:49:02.980 a

00:49:03.120 citizen

00:49:03.440 that's

00:49:04.320 potentially

00:49:05.320 a

00:49:05.660 problem

00:49:06.840 it's

00:49:07.500 so

00:49:07.640 unreal

00:49:07.980 all right

00:49:08.540 Clayton

00:49:08.820 appreciate

00:49:09.160 your

00:49:09.320 time

00:49:09.520 thanks

00:49:09.720 for

00:49:09.840 all

00:49:10.020 your

00:49:10.180 hard

00:49:10.380 work

00:49:10.600 and

00:49:10.720 great

00:49:10.920 reporting

00:49:11.320 over

00:49:11.600 at

00:49:11.760 true

00:49:11.920 north

00:49:12.160 and

00:49:12.340 thanks

00:49:12.560 for

00:49:12.680 joining

00:49:12.860 the

00:49:13.000 show

00:49:13.120 today

00:49:13.400 thank

00:49:14.080 you

00:49:14.260 all right

00:49:15.480 folks

00:49:15.760 that

00:49:15.980 takes

00:49:16.400 us

00:49:16.540 to

00:49:16.660 the

00:49:16.820 end

00:49:17.100 of

00:49:17.380 the

00:49:17.560 show

00:49:17.720 we'll

00:49:17.880 be

00:49:18.000 back

00:49:18.200 again

00:49:18.420 tomorrow

00:49:18.740 with

00:49:18.960 all

00:49:19.080 the

00:49:19.220 news

00:49:19.420 I'm

00:49:19.600 Candice

00:49:19.840 Malcolm

00:49:20.040 this is

00:49:20.260 the

00:49:20.320 Candice

00:49:20.560 Malcolm

00:49:20.800 show

00:49:21.040 thank

00:49:21.360 you

00:49:21.520 and

00:49:21.740 God

00:49:21.960 bless

The Candice Malcolm Show - March 11, 2025

Did the Liberals RIG the leadership vote？

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