The Candice Malcolm Show - August 18, 2025


EV Mandate Fails, CBC Cashes In


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35 minutes

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182.0929

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6,548

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382

Hate Speech Sentences

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Welcome to The Candace Malcolm Show. I'm Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian
00:00:07.860 Taxpayers Federation. I'm filling in for Candace a few times over the summer, so thank you so much
00:00:13.060 for making us a part of your day. Be sure to remember to like and share this video,
00:00:18.560 and if you're not already a subscriber, make sure you fix that. Okay, so much to talk about
00:00:23.520 today. As we know, Conservative leader Pierre Polyev is in the middle of his by-election today.
00:00:29.580 That is happening in Battle River Crowfoot, so stay with us for more information on that as the
00:00:34.940 week rolls on. And there's a big fight brewing. It's been ongoing now on media payments. I wanted
00:00:42.260 to do a little bit of a nerdy deep dive with you right now. So something came up with the State
00:00:48.340 Department in the United States where U.S. President Donald Trump's administration is in power. They
00:00:53.220 came out and said basically that the Online News Act is causing problems for people accessing news.
00:00:59.580 It was then twisted. The language was twisted like crazy from the Canadian side of things saying it
00:01:07.840 was Orwellian for the Trump administration to be commenting like this. Canadian press labels U.S.
00:01:15.320 government Orwellian for criticizing Canada's censorship laws. Okay, so if your head is spinning,
00:01:22.560 you're not the crazy one. That is a backflip of Newspeak in order for them to call that Orwellian.
00:01:29.980 What's happening right now is a few things. On one hand, we've got crazy censorship laws. Okay,
00:01:36.960 Bill C11 went through and we got a bunch of other censorship laws that are coming down the pipe.
00:01:41.140 People often refer to it as the online harms thing going on. In a nutshell, the Canadian government
00:01:48.020 wants to be able to regulate and thus control what the average Canadian can see, hear, and share
00:01:55.840 online. They're doing this behind the fig leaf of Canadiana as if this is all about maple syrup and
00:02:02.320 Anne Murray. Okay, it's not. Okay, do not give the government power to control what you can see
00:02:08.300 here and share on the internet, folks. So they're trying to push through a bunch of censorship laws
00:02:12.520 on one side. And the other side is what I want to talk about right now. And that is government funded
00:02:18.840 media. Okay, let's start off with the CBC. As you know, the CBC is taking $1.4 billion from Canadians
00:02:30.240 this year alone in its funding. To put that money into perspective, that kind of money could otherwise
00:02:38.140 pay the full-time salaries of 7,000 cops plus 7,000 paramedics. Full-time salaries. But instead,
00:02:48.760 you're paying for the CBC. If you don't like using that example, picture any profession that makes
00:02:53.820 around $100,000 per year, there's your math for you. Okay, so the CBC is taking that kind of money.
00:03:01.500 Further, they just announced their new CEO a few months ago. They're paying her at the same rate
00:03:07.660 that the former CEO, Catherine Tate, was getting paid. That's about half a million dollars per year,
00:03:14.600 like $500,000 per year. And the CBC has dismal ratings, okay? Their ratings are now getting down
00:03:23.240 to the rounding error level, actually, for local newscasts. Like if you're tuning in at 6pm
00:03:28.380 in Calgary, or even places like Toronto, it's dismal. If you go national, you look at their
00:03:34.940 CBC News Network, their primetime rating share is 1.8. That means that more than 98% of TV viewing
00:03:44.240 Canadians at that time are choosing to watch something else. Even for their fiction programming,
00:03:50.020 if you try to say, oh, well, people are getting bummed out by the news, they want to be
00:03:52.880 entertained. Okay, look at their entertainment. Their top-rated show is the Murdoch Mysteries,
00:04:00.080 which they do not produce, okay? Still, 98% of Canadians are choosing to watch something else.
00:04:07.940 So, you're paying through the nose for the CBC, okay? They are not being accountable when it comes
00:04:13.660 to things like bonuses, because all they did was jack up their salaries at the same time.
00:04:17.260 They're paying their CEO the same amount, and next to nobody's watching them. And then they put out
00:04:23.260 really interesting stories like this. If we can pull up the graphic here, this just hit the news.
00:04:28.100 If you go to the CBC website, it's showing what they're pushing here. And they're pushing the
00:04:32.760 narrative that because of climate change, you shouldn't even really own a pet dog. Look at that
00:04:38.540 cute beagle. I'm sorry, my grandma had beagles when I was a kid, and it's just adorable.
00:04:42.360 People often miscalculate the impact of climate choice, like owning a dog, study says.
00:04:49.580 Why would the CBC pick that story? Why would they try to be guilting you and shaming you for owning
00:04:55.160 a dog because of climate change? Remember when, like last week, everybody who was fighting against
00:05:03.200 the carbon tax was being called a climate change denier, and we had members of parliament saying
00:05:08.940 that because you want to take a family road trip, you wanted the planet to burn down. And now all of
00:05:14.540 a sudden, we have liberal MPs showing themselves at gas pumps, patting themselves on the back for
00:05:20.180 getting rid of the carbon tax. The point here is, folks, is to not give up the fight, okay? The point
00:05:26.180 here is, is to make sure you're always pushing back, including on things like government-funded media.
00:05:31.680 Now, back to what the State Department was talking about in the United States, the Online News Act.
00:05:36.320 You notice how on Facebook that you can't post links? The reason why that happened is this.
00:05:43.600 It goes something like this. The print companies in Canada, okay? Some of the print companies in
00:05:48.560 Canada that would often be referred to as newspaper companies were like, hey, we need a new revenue
00:05:53.900 stream. Let's figure out how to do it. Let's go to the government for help. That's a really bad idea
00:05:59.360 because the government is going to screw up a two-car parade, but they did, okay? And this is the
00:06:04.000 result. So the government then said, oh, great idea. Let's charge Facebook and Google a link tax.
00:06:12.920 So every time anybody posts a link to a Canadian news site on the Facebook machine,
00:06:20.240 Facebook has to pay for that link. This is like charging the delivery boy for your newspaper
00:06:29.060 to be distributed. It's the weirdest thing. And then, of course, predictably, news traffic plummeted
00:06:36.120 on all sorts of these sites. All of a sudden, all of their clicks are going down. Why? Because human
00:06:41.640 beings can't see your stuff anymore on Canada's most popular social media site. Who could have
00:06:47.080 predicted this would be a disaster? Anybody with a little bit of common sense. So that's what the link
00:06:51.940 tax is or the Online News Act. Google eventually caved and they worked out some deal with the government.
00:06:58.140 They are getting a little bit of money flowing through it now. Guess what? The CBC is taking
00:07:02.920 a big chunk of that money. So at the end of the day, the print guys in Canada still got screwed.
00:07:09.020 Now, the reason why the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is fighting this is for two reasons.
00:07:13.860 One, the government should never pay journalists. Journalists should never be on the payroll of
00:07:20.000 government because it costs so much money. This is the first reason. It isn't just the CBC
00:07:26.100 that is getting taxpayers' money. No. A huge portion of the mainstream media is now dependent
00:07:35.220 on government funding in Canada. That includes the Canadian press. That includes CP, which is why
00:07:44.300 that story about Trump being Orwellian or the administration being Orwellian is so salty.
00:07:50.520 Let's pull up a quick graphic here. I'll explain it. It shows the same headlines around the Canadian
00:07:57.100 media landscape. Okay, let's take a look here. You can see it where it says Canada's economy is
00:08:02.420 showing resilience against U.S. tariffs. Why? Notice how it's the same story all the way through there
00:08:08.260 over and over and over again. So we've got the same headline in what looks to be CTV News,
00:08:13.420 Toronto Sun, Toronto Star, CP24, National Post, and CBC. So for folks who don't work in media,
00:08:22.340 that might look weird. It might look as if there's some, you know, globalist entity that is phoning all
00:08:27.960 these newsrooms and getting the editor to say, hey, this is your headline. No. Pull the graphic back up
00:08:33.560 really quick there. There's a little byline there and a little tag you need to look for. You see that
00:08:38.560 little Canadian flag where it has the quote marks around it? Canadian press. Okay, it's all Canadian
00:08:44.800 press. Now what the Canadian press is, is basically what I would call the the wire service for the
00:08:50.820 mainstream media in Canada. Now usually it's just straight up and down work. This isn't even about
00:08:55.980 politics. I'm just talking about the functionality of sharing news. Okay, the Canadian press also gets
00:09:02.200 funding from the Canadian media. But that is why you are seeing almost uniform coverage in many
00:09:08.500 cases across the mainstream media landscape. It's because they are subscribing to the Canadian
00:09:15.180 press. Because there is next to no journalists organically in a grassroots fashion in those
00:09:21.900 newsrooms anymore. So it is right click and fill. And unfortunately, a huge chunk of that is now
00:09:29.460 government funded. Lastly, this is why this is so important. A free press does not mean a bunch of
00:09:38.260 free rolled up newspapers at like a subway station somewhere. That's not what a free press means.
00:09:44.560 A free press is supposed to be free from government. Free from government influence. Free from government
00:09:54.200 interference. And free from government funding. And guess what? If you're an average reporter, and you
00:10:02.680 know in the back of your head that now it's close to $30,000 of your funding for your paycheck is
00:10:09.980 reliant on the federal government, how are you able to function as a journalist? How, for example,
00:10:17.060 would you be able to cover an election where candidate A is saying, I will increase funding to your employer
00:10:24.880 as a journalist? And candidate B is saying, I'm going to completely defund your employer as a
00:10:31.980 journalist. No human being would be able to cover that game straight, because it is a direct and obvious
00:10:39.360 conflict of interest. And it's one of the reasons why a lot of folks who support the Canadian Taxpayers
00:10:45.700 Federation, who watch Juno, who watch other alternative media are noticing that not a lot of
00:10:52.580 news is getting out about how much something like the forcing of battery powered cars on everybody is
00:10:59.320 going to cost you. When was the last time you heard a big mainstream media headline saying,
00:11:04.680 oh my goodness, this huge mandate on EVs is going to cost Canadians $300 billion. This is going to cost
00:11:14.120 people a huge amount of money. Why are we punishing people for buying a used car, punishing them with
00:11:20.520 PST hikes versus giving a whole bunch of money to rich people who are buying electric vehicles? Why
00:11:27.480 aren't we hearing news on that? It could just be a coincidence, to be honest, because they just don't
00:11:32.040 have the bodies to cover stuff like this, or it might have something to do with government influence
00:11:37.400 based on how they're funded. Let's find out some answers. Let's find out from Dan McTague. He's the head
00:11:43.840 of affordable energy. Joining us now is Dan McTague. He is, of course, with Canadians for
00:11:49.340 Affordable Energy. I've known Dan for a long time. The poor gentleman, every time I need to figure out
00:11:54.620 what the second carbon tax cost is in British Columbia, I'm DMing him saying, can you please
00:11:59.540 figure this out? And he always has the best answers. And he is really spearheading this fight against this
00:12:05.520 mandate coming down from the federal government saying, you must own an EV or to the car dealerships,
00:12:12.940 you must sell this number of EVs off of your lot. And again, it is starting in like four months
00:12:20.380 time. In four months time, they're going to have to sell 20% as EVs, battery powered vehicles. So Dan,
00:12:28.680 thank you so much for joining us today. I wanted to throw you a pretty fresh clip. This is conservative
00:12:35.440 leader Pierre Polyev, who is of course running for the seat in Battle River Crowfoot, which is just up
00:12:42.440 the road from me. His by-election is today. And he was asked about this EV mandate. And I wanted us
00:12:48.980 to listen to it together. So let's roll it. Well, there's not even the electrical infrastructure,
00:12:53.420 it would cost $300 billion to put in place the electrical charging stations and transmission
00:13:01.880 networks to actually do that, which would be thousands of dollars of costs in higher taxes
00:13:07.840 prices and prices for consumers for every single family. And not only would it eliminate rural
00:13:14.760 communities, it would eliminate our auto sector. Wanted to know what you thought about that last
00:13:21.200 part there, which I found interesting because of course, Ontario Premier Doug Ford just finished
00:13:26.440 chatting with Prime Minister Mark Carney. And interesting what Polyev said there is that this would really hurt
00:13:33.400 Canada's auto industry. There's so much to unpack here when it comes to this mandate saying that you
00:13:39.940 must own a battery powered car and they want to phase out gas and diesel. Where do you want to go
00:13:44.860 with this? Well, it's bad for consumers, obviously. It's going to hit everyone's pocketbooks. We can't
00:13:51.280 afford it. And you guys know with the Canadian Tax Periods Federation, just how serious the debt
00:13:55.500 situation is in this country. It's far worse than 1997 when we panicked. No one knows that yet.
00:14:00.580 But for the automotive sector, it is truly the death knell. And you know, Chris, I'm not talking
00:14:04.900 through my hat here. I served as a media relations officer for Toyota Canada before I was elected as an
00:14:08.800 MP. I know what's going to happen when five of the biggest companies plus a six in Mercedes is now
00:14:14.400 saying, we just can't proceed with this kind of agenda over this timeline. It seems pretty clear to me that
00:14:22.640 if the auto manufacturers are going to be ignored, and consumers are going to be ignored, there really
00:14:27.960 isn't much left for the federal liberals and their friends of the NDP and the bloc to stand on. This
00:14:32.180 is a policy that is going to dramatically impact our economic outlook. And now with the United States,
00:14:38.860 forget the terrorists, having not gone down the road of EV mandates, 90% of the vehicles that we make
00:14:43.480 in Ontario, I'm looking right now from where I can see the Ford plant smokestacks, you know, we're not
00:14:49.320 going to be able to sell our vehicles if we all put, we have EVs. Americans aren't going to buy them
00:14:52.840 anymore. And frankly, we shouldn't be going that route either. You mentioned not talking through your
00:14:58.020 hat. I just wanted to back up what Pierre Polyev was saying there in his clip. He's not talking through his
00:15:02.700 hat either when it comes to the $300 billion price tag. What he was referencing there was a report that is
00:15:09.520 posted on the Government of Canada website. Natural Resources Canada says it's going to cost us upwards of
00:15:17.840 $300 billion with a B to transition over to battery powered vehicles. And I just, I quickly did some
00:15:26.940 math. It was a few months ago where I'm like, you know what, where is that number coming from? And I
00:15:31.740 did really raw math of let's say that Santa Claus magically changed everybody's personal vehicle that
00:15:37.360 we own right now in our driveways. Okay. Into an electric vehicle, not a hybrid. I'll point this out.
00:15:43.420 All battery powered electric folks here with the mandate. Let's say they were all electric. We
00:15:48.700 would need like 14 new huge can do reactors just, just for personal driving. I'm not even touching on
00:15:58.060 our, our transport trucks or any of our commercial fleet or any of that. So yeah, that's where those
00:16:04.860 hundreds of billions of dollars of the price tag is coming from. And to your point that we mentioned
00:16:09.360 with the CTF, the Taxpayers Federation, we've got un-money right now. We are in a massive debt
00:16:15.120 crisis. We do not have the cash to do this. So I'll get to the end game here soon, but I wanted to
00:16:22.120 pick up a little bit on what's happening with tariffs because of course we've got these terrible
00:16:26.380 tariffs that are happening actually between Canada and China right now. And it's hurting our canola
00:16:31.140 growers out here out West. And are you hearing anything from China saying we want access with our cheap
00:16:37.660 battery powered cars to flood the Canadian market? Are you hearing any rumblings in that way?
00:16:43.140 Oh, they want to do it and they can do it. And one way or another, they're going to do it.
00:16:47.020 They're going to do either by the US or they're going to do it via other means through other
00:16:51.460 countries. So the soft belly won't be Canada saying yes or no and destroying the very product that it
00:16:57.280 made. It's number one agricultural export, which is now up in the air. It, by the way, signed a
00:17:01.680 permanent agreement with Australia because we were so, you know, we were so insistent on backing
00:17:07.460 something that can only be made with lots of money, as you've pointed out. But I sense that where we're
00:17:11.540 going here is the government is going to have to have a significant, you know, ice dumping bucket
00:17:18.780 on the head in order for it to get to finally move because this is a recipe for disaster with tariffs
00:17:23.900 now firmly on their way, now starting to impact. I think the next budget is going to be an absolute
00:17:30.820 disaster. Unless, of course, Mark Carter tries to play games and try to split the budget and make
00:17:35.440 it all sorts of things that it isn't. It's going to take a lot of creative financing in order to get
00:17:40.640 rid of what's about to hit Canadians. If they think it's bad now, they have no idea what's in store.
00:17:45.740 There is nothing redeemable about the economy going forward, especially given because the Liberals
00:17:51.120 believe it's still 2015.
00:17:53.000 I wanted to stress this, that people are going, you mentioned it's 2015, if only, if we, if only it were 2015.
00:17:58.860 Um, just anyway, it makes you upset actually thinking about it because the debt has been doubled,
00:18:04.680 right? So, and he did, and Trudeau did that in nine years, so less than a decade. It's almost as
00:18:11.320 if it was deliberate or on purpose because they did such an amazing job driving up the debt. Um, what we,
00:18:16.740 what we spend on the debt here, folks, is a billion dollars a week just on the interest payments.
00:18:23.280 So for people to envision this, okay, building a new hospital costs about a billion dollars, okay?
00:18:31.680 So imagine all of Canada gathering around the TV station on Saturday nights, and instead of the
00:18:37.260 old hockey game, we burn down a hospital. That's what we're doing with our interest payments alone
00:18:43.400 on the debt. Our stress here is that we do not have the money, taxpayers don't have the money,
00:18:48.420 to fund this thing into happening. Do you think there's a chance that Carney, that Prime Minister
00:18:56.640 Carney is a pragmatist and that he could simply say, you know what, this was a Trudeau era liberal
00:19:02.500 government thing. I'm dusting my hands off and walking away from it because we're hitting a
00:19:07.220 mathematical wall where people don't want it. I think we have a poll here from Leger that we can
00:19:11.840 pull up where Canadians are opposed to, here we go, the EV mandate. Canadians are opposed to it.
00:19:18.380 You can see it right there. They say that this target is unrealistic and will cost too much.
00:19:23.120 It should be rolled back. 71%. That's a really strong poll. Okay. Don't, do you think there's
00:19:30.220 a chance that Carney, the pragmatist, if he's in there, will say, you know what, this is a Trudeau mess.
00:19:35.580 I'm walking away from it and I'm getting rid of it.
00:19:38.200 Well, he'd be renouncing everything he's stood for the past 10, 15 years. And unless he's like
00:19:44.220 the old commercial of the seventies and eighties, Oil of Olay, keep them guessing. I mean, the reality
00:19:48.860 is that Mark Carney is going to have to recognize that it's TikTok time. It's time for him to fish
00:19:54.800 or cut bait. And it's time for him to make a decision one way or another. He's leaning very
00:20:00.340 heavily towards what he's always been. And if he's going to change his colors dramatically like that,
00:20:05.200 I think it's going to leave a lot of his friends at Brookfield, a lot of his European friends and
00:20:09.580 allies, and those he's rubbed shoulders with over the past few years, scratching their heads about
00:20:14.780 Mark Carney, the politician, as opposed to Mark Carney, the green, you know, the green wizard,
00:20:20.740 basically trying to undermine economies around the world. And by the way, GFANS is not over it.
00:20:25.940 The United States Antitrust Division is still going to look at what GFANS did to try to block
00:20:29.740 energy production and energy investments in the United States. It's awfully funny to see the United
00:20:34.440 States Department of Justice summons, once again, Mark Carney as Prime Minister to say,
00:20:40.940 your companies, Brookfield and other, are going to be subject to triple damages,
00:20:44.760 which actually is a reality in the United States, unlike Canada's
00:20:47.120 Limp-Risted Competition Act. Can you expand a little bit
00:20:50.860 for our viewers on GFANS and what went down there?
00:20:53.840 Yeah, Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero, a few years ago, Mark Carney thought it'd be a great idea
00:20:58.320 to have all companies in the name of sustainability. And before the 2023 CONFAB decided that it would be a
00:21:06.320 great idea to, you know, get banks, investment companies, brokers not to invest any money in
00:21:11.520 fossil fuels, oil and gas, or any of the energies that the world is currently using and continues to
00:21:16.180 use in even greater sense. What he did is he targeted the United States. And of course, as the
00:21:22.620 Senate inquiry under the Biden administration, Senate committee started to look into this, they
00:21:26.540 realized that this is a case, it is a classic case of monopolization, of price fixing, and of course,
00:21:36.540 of cartelization, which I think is what the word they use. So basically said, if you were a bank in the
00:21:41.100 United States, think of State Street, think of Vanguard, think of BlackRock, any of these big ones, and you're
00:21:47.180 now engaged in saying, we're not going to invest in oil and gas, because Mark Carney and his friends say so, well, you're not
00:21:52.140 subject to triple damages. In other words, if the effect of what you did in the United States was to
00:21:56.860 deny 10 to $20 billion in economic activity to the oil and gas sector, you're not going to be
00:22:02.860 punished by $60 billion. So you know what, in a word, they short-arsed it out of there, they got out of
00:22:08.320 the G fans, and left Mark Carney looking rather sheepish, because they actually have strong integrity in their
00:22:15.820 institutions to go after this kind of gamesmanship in which they were trying to block the economy. And so
00:22:20.860 I think it's going to be very interesting to see. No wonder there's a gulf between Canada and the
00:22:24.300 United States. It's a little strange that Donald Trump thought Mark Carney was the best person to
00:22:28.060 deal with. I think we know now why. He does have no deal with him and doesn't have to worry about him,
00:22:33.660 just like Trudeau. Yeah, that was a, that was one of the strangest elections I've ever observed.
00:22:38.940 Just got to say, there was so much strange head games going on. And the comments about the 51st state,
00:22:44.380 it was such a tailspin that it caused within the parliamentary press gallery, set people off.
00:22:49.340 I'd be curious to know what's going on in Washington or if they're even thinking about
00:22:53.180 Canada when it comes to these sort of problems. Probably not. We do have an integrated auto
00:22:57.420 market though. And with your experience with automobiles, how this is going to sound silly,
00:23:04.780 like a school child asking you, if we have an integrated like auto manufacturing system, which we do,
00:23:11.500 right? I've read that a car part can cross the Canada-US border for one maker model of vehicle,
00:23:17.260 like 10 times. So it's all integrated. How could we force people to purchase only EVs or start
00:23:26.940 increasing the quotas? It starts at 20% in four months time. How can Canada do that if the United
00:23:35.180 States isn't? Well, again, it's just hoping that we can maybe trade with the Americans,
00:23:42.700 or rather with the Europeans and forget the Americans. Our trade relationship with the United
00:23:47.820 States is 15 times greater than that, which we trade with in Europe. So if we think we can turn
00:23:52.620 that overnight, it's taken 100 years to develop. Good luck. But this is truly political virtue
00:23:58.540 signaling. And the elbows up crowd that thought it was cool and trendy to be able to tell the
00:24:02.220 Americans to go take a hike, you may not like Trump, but you sure as hell can't agree disagree
00:24:06.780 with why he did it. He knows it was going to hurt Americans. He's standing up for their economy.
00:24:10.860 He's not prepared to allow someone to impose an arbitrary deadline that says you have to have 100%
00:24:17.420 vehicles by such and such time and spend $2 to $3 trillion to obtain that. Canada doesn't have
00:24:23.100 that kind of ability and that we do rely on the American market. As I mentioned, 90% of what you
00:24:28.220 produce in Ontario, so that'd be the Toyota factories, the Stellantis factories, the Ford factory,
00:24:33.500 the GM factories, all of those have to sell to the United States. If the Americans are not buying EVs and
00:24:39.820 not being told that they have to buy EVs, now that there's a new president and a new administration,
00:24:44.860 new EPA in town, it means that there's no market for this kind of stuff. So forcing this on Canadians,
00:24:50.220 I don't know why they want us to drive all these over glorified electric golf carts, because frankly,
00:24:55.020 they're not practical, especially in Canada, which is a hell of a lot colder in the United States,
00:24:58.780 and for which we don't have the, as you pointed out very correctly, we don't have the electrical
00:25:03.180 infrastructure, nor the money to back it up. No, we don't have the power for this. We don't have the
00:25:09.340 money for this. And we don't have the cash to keep on handing out rebates and stuff for this.
00:25:14.780 I wanted to pull up a quick graphic here from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, which I found
00:25:19.340 was a really interesting compare and contrast. Now, across some Western provinces and places like
00:25:24.220 British Columbia and Manitoba in particular, there's this disgusting thing that the provincial
00:25:28.940 government does. And that is they charge provincial sales tax, a PST on used vehicles. So it doesn't
00:25:36.460 matter how old the thing is, doesn't matter how many times it's been bought and sold and they've
00:25:39.980 gotten their pound of flesh before, they still take a PST. It's a great experiment here. If you
00:25:46.140 look here on the right, okay, a used Toyota Corolla that somebody has saved up money for in order to
00:25:51.740 get to work, they spend 8,500 bucks. That's a pretty good price for a used Corolla. They will be hit
00:25:58.540 with a PST bill from the NDP Manitoba government for close to 600 bucks. Same place, same province. If
00:26:08.060 you are got good money and you spend 55 grand on some fancy electric Mustang, you're going to get a
00:26:17.020 $4,000 check from the government. Now, of course, we all know the government doesn't have money.
00:26:24.620 They're taking taxpayers' money, including from that person saving up for the Toyota Camry,
00:26:30.060 and they're giving it to that much more financially better off person who's buying that electric
00:26:35.500 Mustang. Oh, and we have stats. Yes, indeed. The average person spending money on something like
00:26:41.500 an electric Mustang, they're making well over $100,000 per year. So I will point this out that
00:26:47.580 this is also, it's a tax on the working poor in this country. And it seems to be an all out attack.
00:26:54.380 I would say on normal vehicles, Dan. Yes. Chris, it's really getting,
00:27:01.100 going from the sublime to the ridiculous when you consider what we're trying to tax. And
00:27:06.140 trying to get a resale PST on a used electric vehicle, there's none, because they're sitting,
00:27:11.500 the car lots in this country are filled with electric vehicles, they can't sell them. So they
00:27:15.180 can't sell them now. And especially without incentives, the federal government has removed its
00:27:19.020 incentive. How are they going to be able to get it 20%, 30%, 40%, all the way to 100%
00:27:23.980 by 2035, and penalize every single car dealer for not reaching that? I can tell you, I've spoken to
00:27:29.820 a number of car salesmen in the past month, they've been talking to me openly, they are very worried
00:27:35.660 about this. And they, they're like the people I remember in 1984, who, when the federal liberals of
00:27:41.020 my party decided to be a good idea to tax insurance plans came out knocking on doors and nailed us badly
00:27:47.500 in 1984. I think the same thing is going to happen here, but not until the damage is done.
00:27:52.620 20,000 dollars per vehicle as a penalty, if you go over that ratio of four, of five to one,
00:27:58.860 and it'll be four to one, three to one, two to one, then all of them have to be that way.
00:28:02.620 I suspect this is a recipe for political, but most importantly, economic damage, the likes of which
00:28:08.380 it won't just damage the sales of vehicles, it's going to damage the entire automotive sector.
00:28:14.060 So Doug Ford, I hope this morning when you met with Mark Carney, you gave that message to him,
00:28:18.540 because there isn't, you don't have enough money, you don't have enough debt that you can incur
00:28:22.540 to make up the difference of what's about to happen, especially if these auto plants decide to
00:28:26.700 rightly pack up and leave. Yeah, he better have, he better have. I will say I'm not impressed.
00:28:33.260 The amount of debt that Premier Doug Ford is saddling provincial Ontario taxpayers with is gross.
00:28:40.380 So just, I talked about the interest on the federal debt. The interest on the provincial debt for
00:28:45.740 Ontario costs Ontario taxpayers 300 million dollars a week. I couldn't believe that math,
00:28:54.780 I checked it four times, it's true. The Ontario provincial debt, now it's not all Doug Ford's fault,
00:29:00.460 but a big chunk of it is, okay? That interest is costing taxpayers 300 million dollars a week.
00:29:06.300 To put it another way, picture burning down or deleting 300 homes per week. That's how much
00:29:14.540 your interest is costing you on your provincial debt. So he better pull his socks up and he better
00:29:18.700 be standing up to Prime Minister Mark Carney on this. Two quick questions to finish this off. One,
00:29:25.020 I've noticed something in the regulations and in the language that the government is posting online in
00:29:30.620 regards to this EV mandate. And I've noticed that they've sprinkled in the word availability a lot
00:29:37.500 now. That was not the case when they were first talking about this. They were talking about sales
00:29:43.580 quotas. So starting in four months time, 2026, you're right, 20% had to be EV. Now my understanding all
00:29:52.700 this time was that was a quota. Meaning if you don't have 20% of sales and you're a car dealership,
00:29:58.460 you're going to start incurring the penalties that you were just mentioning. Now I'm noticing some
00:30:02.940 squishy language that is in through there saying, oh, it has to have 20% availability for sale.
00:30:08.860 Are you noticing any softening language coming from the government on this?
00:30:12.620 Well, yeah, maybe they're trying to soft pedal it because they've taken a hard line up to now,
00:30:16.140 but it's, uh, you know, thankfully, Pierre Polyev will be elected tonight. I don't care by what
00:30:20.620 percentage. I'm not sure if he needs 130% to make some of the lefty media happy, but the reality is that,
00:30:26.380 uh, he's, uh, he's going to be able to hold the government's feet to the fire. This is like the
00:30:31.100 carbon tax one, which you and I, Chris fought against, which the liberals finally had to throw
00:30:35.820 in the towel in order to get reelected. This is going to be the next one. If they don't do this,
00:30:40.380 the CTF, the Canadians for affordable energy are going to be on them like a hungry dog on a brand new
00:30:45.580 fresh steak bone. I think it's in Gone with the Wind where they say it's a duck on a dune bug.
00:30:51.100 Yeah. I love that term. So lastly, I just wanted to stress this for anybody who's thinking, oh,
00:30:57.020 that's a 2035 problem. I don't need to focus on that right now. No, the mandate starts kicking in.
00:31:03.260 The screws start tightening on these auto sellers in 2026, which is in four months time. Can you just
00:31:11.900 briefly explain to people like to me, as if I'm six personally, how this affects the market or the
00:31:18.860 ability for someone to be able to make a sale? Because it'll start skewing the supply, right?
00:31:24.860 It will big time. And it means that, you know, if you, the competition for internal combustion
00:31:30.140 engines will increase by 20%. In other words, you know, if car dealers are being forced to sell one
00:31:37.260 in five have to be EVs and no one buys them, which is likely the case or very few, then you're going to
00:31:43.260 wind up in a situation where in order to go and to buy, be one of the 80% this year, 70% the year
00:31:50.700 after who wants an internal combustion engine, you're going to have to pay a premium for it
00:31:54.700 because the demand will be super hot, especially when it comes to replacement vehicles. And by the way,
00:31:59.420 Chris, vehicle sales last month were extraordinary. People are buying their internal combustion engines.
00:32:04.940 They know what's coming. And so on January 1st and throughout the year, 2026, those car dealers and
00:32:11.260 those companies don't make that, don't make that target. Then they're going to pay massive penalties
00:32:16.380 and consumers are going to wind up holding the bag as they do for everything else. And, you know,
00:32:19.660 we talked about the second carbon tax, the clean fuel standard, you know, a lot of that money is
00:32:24.620 already there. It's four or five cents a litre already being charged. You have 15%, you know,
00:32:28.780 ethanol being added to gasoline, which is crap for a lot of vehicles. But most importantly,
00:32:32.940 they have to now, as refineries, go out and buy chargers for vehicles in order to get the
00:32:38.060 carbon credits so that the, if you will, it's an indulgence payment that they have to make,
00:32:42.220 which you and I as consumers have to make. We are slowly but surely strangling our economy
00:32:48.220 and our ability to make ends meet. Well done, Canada. That's why it takes 138 pennies to buy
00:32:52.300 a US dollar and your purchase power is going out the window. That is perfectly said. And for people who
00:32:56.860 don't understand why Dan called it an indulgence, look it up. Look up what indulgences were
00:33:02.140 back through human history. That's also why we call it a sin tax, okay? Because they're just
00:33:06.620 trying to punish you for living your life. Dan McTig, Canadians for Affordable Energy. Briefly,
00:33:11.180 where can people find your work? Affordableenergy.ca is the work we're doing. We try to stay on this
00:33:15.820 every week and of course, work with CTF and others. We're all organizations heading towards the same
00:33:20.300 direction, trying to protect consumers. And we've got a damn good reputation between all of us in doing
00:33:25.100 that. Dan, thank you so much for joining us today. Good to be here, Chris. Thanks for having me.
00:33:29.820 You bet. That, once again, was Dan McTig. He is the head of Canadians for Affordable Energy. Folks
00:33:36.780 might remember him from Gas Buddy. So he was the guy that was always able to tell you what the gas
00:33:42.140 price is going to be tomorrow because he knows the market. He knows the industry that well that he'd be
00:33:47.740 able to predict, almost like magic, that it was going to go up or down even by a few cents. I will
00:33:52.940 also point out one of the reasons why Dan is so knowledgeable is because he was a long time
00:33:57.660 member of parliament for the Liberal government. Yes. Back in the day when then Prime Minister Jean
00:34:04.620 Chrétien was the head of the Liberal government, things were different. They weren't perfect, but
00:34:10.140 they were different. Back then, you might remember that Paul Martin was the finance minister. The
00:34:15.580 Canadian Taxpayers Federation gave him an award because he balanced the budget. He stopped deficit
00:34:23.100 spending. So this is why it's super important to talk to people like Dan McTig, who's a veteran of
00:34:29.340 the political arena, but is nonpartisan. He was one of the lead fighters against the Trudeau government's
00:34:34.780 stupid moves on things like carbon taxes, as you heard him just mention, and the electric vehicle
00:34:40.620 mandate. So definitely a good resource there. Folks, this is really important because it may not be
00:34:46.940 affecting your car right this second in your driveway, but the government has no business in
00:34:52.220 the garages of the nation. If we let them say that now 20% of sales must be this certain kind of
00:35:00.380 vehicle and it's going to cost taxpayers an arm and a leg, we're talking hundreds and hundreds and
00:35:06.060 hundreds of millions and billions of dollars that we do not have, they'll just be able to get away with
00:35:10.940 anything. So make sure that you call up your member of parliament, no matter which party they're in,
00:35:17.100 especially if they're within the Liberals, and tell them that this electric vehicle mandate
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