The Candice Malcolm Show - July 28, 2025


EV Mandate Madness: Auto industry revolts + Doug Ford sucks and blows


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Chris Sims and Franco Teresano talk about the ban on gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles in Canada, as well as the controversy surrounding an American Christian singer, Sean Foyt, and the government's attempt to ban him.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show for July 28th. It is Monday here in Canada. My name is
00:00:09.520 Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation. I am guest hosting
00:00:13.880 for Candice today. Thank you so much for making us a part of your very busy day. We've got kind
00:00:19.700 of a doozy happening this week in Canada. Something blew up over the weekend. I just wanted to touch
00:00:25.660 on it briefly because it speaks to things like freedom of expression and freedom of assembly.
00:00:31.360 And Juno News and True North are going to be covering it very closely as the week rolls on.
00:00:36.720 So before I get to my colleague Franco Teresano, stationed in Ottawa, talking about the electric
00:00:42.040 vehicle forcification and the ban on gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles, I wanted to touch on
00:00:49.420 this briefly. So there is an American Christian singer person. His name is Sean. I believe the
00:00:56.880 last name is Foyt. I can't pronounce it properly, so forgive me for wrecking it there. All that is
00:01:03.820 to say, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of Canadians had no idea who this person
00:01:09.900 was before a huge fuss was kicked up, largely over the weekend is when it blew up. What gets me from
00:01:17.360 a taxpayer's angle is a couple of things. One, we've got the government-funded media,
00:01:23.100 the state broadcaster, apparently following this performer around eastern Canada, kind of tailing
00:01:29.620 him. I will remind people that the CBC is getting $1.4 billion from taxpayers this year. And also,
00:01:38.680 no matter what political ideology you come from, journalists shouldn't be paid by the government.
00:01:43.960 Period. So there's an expense there. But from a freedom of assembly and free expression angle,
00:01:51.320 which is essential, like we couldn't do what we are doing here, like we couldn't do the Juno News
00:01:57.020 thing, we couldn't do the True North thing, we couldn't be taxpayers' federation fighters that,
00:02:02.080 you know, embarrass politicians and, you know, say that they're pigs at the trough if we didn't have
00:02:06.840 free expression in this country. If we don't have that, we can't fight for things like lower taxes
00:02:12.720 and less waste and more accountable government. Like, period. It stops there. So I would just try
00:02:19.700 to, as former US President Ronald Reagan used to like to say, reach across the aisle and remind some
00:02:27.020 folks who are up in arms and trying to ban this person from, you know, singing at churches and stuff
00:02:32.900 and holding concerts. Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. Like, would you want local city
00:02:39.900 governments trying to ban Greta Thunberg from speaking? I believe Greta Thunberg had a huge 0.93
00:02:47.380 rally where she spoke right on the Edmonton legislature grounds. And if people want to show
00:02:53.080 up and listen to her speak and rail about anti-oil and gas all day, they have the right to do that.
00:03:00.240 Like, that should just be an obvious thing for Canadians to go to be able to listen to.
00:03:04.940 You don't have to agree with it, which is the entire purpose of freedom of expression.
00:03:09.300 You wouldn't need it written down in a big old charter if people just agreed with what everybody
00:03:14.080 else was saying all the time. And so I did want to touch on this basically as a programming note
00:03:18.660 for Juneau and True North going forward this week. Also, I will mention, we spoke with Christine
00:03:23.980 Van Gein last week, the Canadian Constitution Foundation. And I think that they are kicking
00:03:29.780 the tires on this one pretty hard too. They're the constitutional lawyers, smarty pants people.
00:03:34.840 So definitely go follow their work on this as well. So stay tuned for that when it comes to things,
00:03:40.220 basic things like freedom of expression and freedom of assembly. Speaking of freedom, there's something
00:03:45.500 that is coming down the rail here really fast and hard on Canadians. And we really wanted to highlight it.
00:03:51.480 Okay. And that is the looming ban on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel powered vehicles.
00:03:59.940 A lot of folks think this is happening, you know, in a galaxy far, far away in a future time.
00:04:05.420 That's not true. Okay. This doesn't just start happening in 10 years. It starts happening in five
00:04:11.540 months. Okay. The restrictions start kicking in in five months, meaning that if you are a car dealership,
00:04:18.720 okay, imagine them in your hometown and your cities, how important they are, especially for
00:04:23.380 the local economy. If you're a car dealership, 20% of your new vehicle sales, according to the
00:04:31.160 government will have to be battery powered vehicles. Hybrids don't count for folks who are like, 0.99
00:04:38.000 oh, I love my, my gas and, you know, battery powered hybrid.
00:04:42.400 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.
00:04:47.080 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light, rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle.
00:04:53.580 Feel the aero bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling. 0.99
00:04:57.540 They don't get credit for those. So 20% of their new vehicle sales going off the lot,
00:05:03.920 starting in five months are going to have to be wholly electric. This is going to really throw a
00:05:09.900 spanner in the works when it comes to our auto industry, meaning it's going to screw up how much
00:05:15.460 supply we actually have of gas and diesel powered vehicles. And it's going to make all of these
00:05:21.160 battery powered vehicles. If nobody's buying them pile up at these car dealerships, then these car
00:05:28.240 sellers have to get entangled with this crazy, complicated federal credit program with the
00:05:35.420 government, where they can like earn points for however many vehicles they sell and then get back
00:05:40.400 credit if they don't sell them. Like it just reeks of a boondoggle. Okay. Like the federal government
00:05:47.200 blew billions of dollars, billions with a B, setting up their own payroll software program,
00:05:55.060 you know, to issue checks, to pay for their own employees. They couldn't figure that out properly
00:06:01.100 without blowing billions of dollars. Can you imagine how they're going to spend your money
00:06:06.680 trying to set up this complicated, crazy credit system while telling you what kind of vehicle you
00:06:13.040 can and cannot drive here in this country? Think about if you own a vehicle, how much you depend on it,
00:06:19.100 what it provides for you. As somebody who, you know, worked in the industry in radio for a long
00:06:24.820 time, right? Going super, you're up from, you're up in the dark, right? You're leaving work at the
00:06:30.220 dark. You're working strange hours. You're going out into the boonies to cover things. Like the idea
00:06:35.880 of not having my own personal, safe, warm, locking vehicle that can get me out of places and into
00:06:42.340 places. I can't even imagine trying to live my life and actually do my work without my vehicle.
00:06:47.880 So your vehicle might be that important to you too. Imagine now the government deciding to say,
00:06:53.540 you know what? We've decided what kind of vehicle that can be. That's nuts. Number one. Number two,
00:06:59.280 we don't have the money for this. Like we do not have the cash for this as a, as a government,
00:07:04.640 both federally and provincially. So very quick math. If we, if Santa Claus came along and magically
00:07:12.700 changed everybody's personal vehicles that they already own, like our private fleet, as they call it
00:07:17.860 here in Canada, poof, they're all electric cars. We would need 14 huge, new, can-do type reactors.
00:07:26.680 Like those big ones that you see in like, you know, Darlington and Pickering and stuff in Ontario.
00:07:31.960 We'd need 14 of them. Those things cost around $13 billion each. And they take more than a decade to
00:07:42.200 build each. So like the scale of this is off the charts. The federal government itself commissioned
00:07:49.600 a report and shows that this could cost close to $300 billion. So this is crazy from a small
00:07:59.520 government freedom to choose what kind of vehicle you want to drive and buy angle. And also we do not
00:08:06.380 have the energy or the money for this. So how are they actually going to make this work? Let's find
00:08:13.820 out. Joining me now is Franco Terrazzano. He is the federal director for the Canadian Taxpayers
00:08:19.660 Federation. Also a very good friend of mine. He is stationed in Mordor, also known as Ottawa. Franco,
00:08:25.980 we were just talking about, you know, government getting huge and bossy and up in your grill about
00:08:31.540 pretty much everything here in this country lately. And one of the big ones that really stuck out to
00:08:36.300 I think all of us over the last couple of years was this looming ban on the sale of what I would
00:08:42.180 call normal gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, new ones off the lot. Now, for some folks are like,
00:08:47.880 oh, that's only happening in 10 years or so. Or that was a Trudeau thing. Like, no, no, no, no,
00:08:53.000 no. You know, these restrictions are kicking in very soon. They're going to start tightening the
00:08:57.160 belt on everybody. Also, as far as we can tell, Carney's still going full steam ahead with Trudeau's
00:09:03.140 crazy plan to ban the sale of gas and diesel powered vehicles and force people to purchase
00:09:08.500 battery powered vehicles instead. Where do we stand on this? Like, what kind of money are we
00:09:14.100 spending federally? I wanted to take on Ontario Premier Doug Ford in a minute here, but just give
00:09:19.420 us a bit of a national overview as far as this is concerned so far. Well, no, it looks like the
00:09:24.420 government is still going forward with its plans to ban new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035.
00:09:29.760 Right. But like actually the mandate, these bands is really starting next year where what is it? 20%
00:09:35.480 of the new vehicles sold have to be electric. And then you'll see tightening restrictions over the
00:09:40.680 years until 2035, where it's just a ban on new gas and diesel vehicles. Right. And like, look,
00:09:46.000 the federal government in Ottawa does a whole bunch of crazy things. This might be the most ridiculous
00:09:51.340 thing that they've hatched up. I mean, this is absolutely bonkers. Okay. Like the costs of this
00:09:57.140 are going to be outrageous. Like number one, where does the government, where do these politicians
00:10:01.300 get off telling you what type of car that you can drive? Okay. Number one, number two, if you're
00:10:06.580 looking at the dollars and cents, beep, boop, beep, boop, this is nuts. Okay. Like one report showed
00:10:11.860 that Canada's electric vehicle transition could cost up to $300 billion. So you're looking at tens of
00:10:19.560 billions, if not hundreds of billions of dollars cost. And like, where are we going to get the, uh,
00:10:24.380 the electricity, the power requirements for this? Well, look, I think every Canadian right now,
00:10:29.160 if you set aside the personal freedom issue, which is just an absolutely huge issue,
00:10:32.840 you have to be asking yourself, like how much is your tax and power bill going to go up to pay for
00:10:38.720 all the subsidies, infrastructure, transmission lines, charging stations for this absolute boondoggle?
00:10:45.020 Yeah, it's a huge thing. And that report that Franco just mentioned, guys, this was not from some
00:10:50.000 kind of far flung out there group. It was commissioned by the federal government. Like
00:10:55.620 it is on the federal government's website. I think it's natural resources. I think they've
00:11:00.000 also mirrored it over a transport Canada where they're estimating it's in the hundreds of billions
00:11:04.980 of dollars with the B. And the reason for that is largely what Franco just pointed out. It's where
00:11:10.740 are we getting the juice from? Where are we going to build all these transmission stations? Like
00:11:15.380 picture all the different gas stations you see, like in your own hometown. Imagine all of those
00:11:21.320 having to become like plug-in stations. Like we do not have the cash for this. And I need to keep
00:11:27.820 pointing this out. We have un-money. It's not as if we're, you know, it's not as if we're Norway and
00:11:33.400 we're rolling in it. We've got this huge heritage fund backing us up where we can choose to do what
00:11:38.340 kind of vision quest we want to do with electric vehicles. We don't have the cash for this at the
00:11:43.520 federal level, do we? No, the government is broke, right? I mean, look, interest charges on the
00:11:49.940 federal debt alone are costing taxpayers more than a billion dollars every week. Well, what's a
00:11:55.700 billion dollars, right? That's a brand new hospital that is not getting built every single week because
00:12:00.860 the government is so broke and so in debt and all that money is going to interest charges, right?
00:12:05.280 Think about it this way. All right. Think about this every time you're at the cashier, right?
00:12:09.540 Waiting to check out. Well, every dollar you paid in federal sales tax last year went to pay interest
00:12:15.120 charges on the debt. So the government is absolutely broke. I mean, think about the billions of dollars
00:12:20.480 that the government is going to put taxpayers on the hook for, for the subsidies, for all the new
00:12:24.760 infrastructure, for all the new transmission lines, right? I mean, look, the government has already
00:12:29.400 put taxpayers on the hook for about $30 billion in corporate welfare to multinational corporations
00:12:35.840 like Honda, Volkswagen, Salantis, and Northvolt so they can build EV battery factories. And that's
00:12:41.320 just the federal government, right? Let alone the Ontario government, some of the other provincial
00:12:44.920 governments who are getting in to the corporate welfare game. And, you know, we mentioned that
00:12:49.400 Natural Resource Canada report where the total cost of this could be up to $300 billion. Like,
00:12:56.060 look at, think about the electricity or the power requirements for this. Chris, we had an op-ed in
00:13:01.220 the Toronto Sun about this a little while ago, where we talk about, you know, Canada would need, what,
00:13:05.620 14 large nuclear reactors to power all those electric vehicles. Like, the only silver lining
00:13:11.920 from this absolutely crazy idea, this ban, the only silver lining is that it's so crazy, it might not
00:13:18.960 even be possible, right? It's just so out there. Yeah, it's kind of like, let's go live on Mars in a year.
00:13:24.480 It's like, okay, that sounds fun. Maybe just don't, maybe sit down, as my kids like to say.
00:13:29.920 Maybe sit down. Speaking of nuclear reactors, the big can-do nuclear reactors, which is what we
00:13:37.160 would need 14 of, just for the private vehicle fleet that is owned in Canada right now. That's
00:13:42.460 not touching trucking. That's not touching commercial transportation needs, okay? 14 big
00:13:47.640 can-do reactors. Where are those located? Right where you're sitting right now, or a little south
00:13:52.160 of you, in Ontario. So, I wanted to flag this from a provincial perspective, because, man,
00:13:58.600 Ontario Premier Doug Ford does not know which way he's going half the time. Like, he's,
00:14:04.200 I wanted to play this clip because I don't understand it. He's talking about getting rid
00:14:09.120 of the mandate now, I guess, but still spending taxpayers' money on corporate welfare, even
00:14:14.560 though there isn't a demand for it or something. He reminds me of the scarecrow from Wizard of
00:14:19.280 Oz, where he's pointing both directions. Let's listen to this most recent clip from Ford.
00:14:23.160 The regulations being pointed out is the EV mandate. What does today's announcement, how
00:14:29.900 does that affect your past enthusiasm to develop battery plants in Ontario, as well as have EVs
00:14:36.780 manufactured in Ontario?
00:14:39.040 Well, I always believe I'm a big proponent of the market dictates. The market will dictate,
00:14:44.760 not governments will dictate. We have to get rid of these mandates. The companies won't be
00:14:49.940 able to meet their targets. And let's continue investing. I'm confident that eventually, the EV sector,
00:15:00.060 per se, will continue growing. But right now, the people are going to decide. But let's not slow
00:15:08.000 down on building the battery plants and any other EV plants. But who knows us the best but the auto
00:15:14.780 sector? And they'll, they'll determine that, but we're going to continue investing in the,
00:15:19.320 in the market itself.
00:15:22.020 Okay. So my brain hurts. Um, could you please explain what does he mean by investing? Like
00:15:28.600 when government says invest, do they just mean spend?
00:15:31.580 No, they mean, yeah, they mean take your money and give it out in corporate welfare, right? They
00:15:36.440 mean, take your tax dollars that you work so hard for, right? And then give that money to
00:15:41.760 multinational corporations. I mean, we saw that I talked about, you know, the tens of billions of
00:15:45.780 dollars that the federal government has put taxpayers on the hook for. Well, you know, Ford,
00:15:50.200 Ontario premier Ford, you know, was clapping along all too happy to also give Ontario taxpayers money
00:15:55.880 to some of these multinational corporations for battery factories. So like, what is Ford talking
00:16:01.020 about? You know, at one point he also says, let the market decide. Well, I mean, his own government
00:16:06.500 has been handing out corporate welfare to these multinational corporations. So, you know,
00:16:10.480 why is Ford running around trying to play investment banker with taxpayers money? Look,
00:16:15.720 all this corporate welfare gets me, uh, so riled up because it's ordinary Canadians, ordinary
00:16:20.920 Ontarians who work so hard and the government is taking their money, turning it around and giving
00:16:26.080 it to handpicked corporations. And like, think of the small businesses, right? Who are paying
00:16:31.080 massive taxes that now they're funding with their own tax dollars, potentially their competitors
00:16:36.420 in the marketplace. Like, look, these politicians at Queens Park or on at Parliament Hill, they
00:16:43.040 couldn't balance the budget of a lemonade stand. Okay. If these people were such good investment
00:16:48.400 bankers, they wouldn't be politicians or bureaucrats. They would be spending their own money in the
00:16:53.300 marketplace. Like corporate welfare is such a bad deal for ordinary Canadians who are forced to pick
00:16:59.000 up this tab. So if we could be as charitable as possible, I guess it's good that Ford is, you know,
00:17:04.820 speaking out against, uh, the government's, uh, ban on the sale of new gas and diesel vehicles,
00:17:09.780 but like, come on, he's part of the problem when we're talking about all this massive and costly
00:17:14.080 corporate welfare. Like I don't have my master's in economics or anything, but isn't it kind of a
00:17:20.260 contradiction in terms for him to say, let the market decide. And then in the next breath, let's
00:17:25.740 keep piling in more corporate welfare. Isn't that the opposite of letting the market decide? Isn't that
00:17:30.620 putting your big government thumb on the scale? Oh, of course it's the opposite. It's
00:17:34.500 the exact opposite, right? Like, look, we're, I know Chris, me and you, like we're all about
00:17:38.620 capitalism, right? Where it's entrepreneurs who have their skin in the game and invest their own
00:17:45.020 money to hopefully get a profit or suffer the losses, right? That's what the free market is.
00:17:50.820 The free market is not a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats who rely or who live off the
00:17:56.020 taxpayer, then take taxpayers money and give it to a couple, uh, handpicked corporations. Like,
00:18:01.620 come on. Yeah, that is a total mess. It is so gross. I really hope that he's able to kind of
00:18:07.840 formulate and focus his thoughts and have it follow that. Yes, that's good that you're now
00:18:12.420 against forcing people to buy a certain type of vehicle and that you're going to stand up to
00:18:16.580 Ottawa and tell Carney, no, that's great. Mention that the next time you're at the cottage and you're
00:18:21.020 having a fireside chat as he described it in the next breath. That's fine. But also you need to
00:18:26.120 cancel the corporate welfare because at the end of the day, the fact that the Americans who are an
00:18:31.800 enormous market, right? Like we have an integrated auto market for anyone who's paid any attention
00:18:37.120 to cross border trade in the last 50 years, we have an integrated auto market. If their production
00:18:43.500 and demand has now shifted away from a mandate for battery powered vehicles, the Biden administration
00:18:49.580 had a very similar sort of mandate that the Trudeau administration had, they gone. Trump is the
00:18:55.760 president now. And he canceled that. The fact that we're still going to pretend that we can limp this
00:19:01.340 along in the Canada's size of a population and market for our auto industry. Like it just makes
00:19:07.260 my taxpayer wallet like cringe. Um, I wanted to, speaking of taxes, I wanted to shift gears here.
00:19:14.220 Sorry. I got full of mom puns this morning. Um, I wanted to shift gears here to the biggest bite
00:19:20.500 that's taken out of our wallet. And every year the good folks over at the Fraser Institute do a big
00:19:25.680 calculation where they figure out how much we're paying in taxes, fees, levies, and all the other
00:19:31.120 euphemisms that politicians at the trough use for taxes. What's the bite this year? How much of our
00:19:37.180 income is being sucked up in taxes? Oh, it's more than 42%. It's, it's absolutely disgusting.
00:19:44.060 That the average family is paying almost half of their income to the tax man, all levels of
00:19:50.640 government. Okay. So think about it this way, folks, right? Like take half your paycheck,
00:19:55.500 rip it in half because that half is the tax man. And like, look, like the biggest cost for your
00:20:00.440 family, it's not food, it's not clothing, it's not housing, it's taxes, right? So taxes are taken
00:20:07.280 away about 42% of the average family's budget. Meanwhile, an average family is spending 30, what? 36%.
00:20:13.900 Of their income on food, housing, and clothing. So think about it one more way. You're paying more
00:20:20.280 of your money in taxes, or the government is taking more of your money in taxes than what
00:20:25.400 you're spending on food, housing, and clothing combined, combined. So Canadians are being taxed
00:20:33.120 to death, right? You have federal income taxes, provincial income taxes, federal sales taxes,
00:20:37.860 provincial sales taxes, federal gas taxes, provincial gas taxes, carbon taxes, payroll taxes,
00:20:43.860 federal business taxes, provincial business taxes, capital gains taxes. And if all that drives you to
00:20:48.820 drink, well, too bad because you're paying alcohol taxes to both levels of government as well.
00:20:53.980 And a whole bunch of crazy hidden fees all amongst that, which is what the Fraser Institute
00:20:57.880 calculates. And they do a great job. Pull up, Sean, pull that graphic back up. Cause that is just
00:21:03.020 astonishing. Here we go. Average Canadian family pays 42% of its income to taxes, more than the
00:21:10.280 necessities of life. And you see there on the green side, there, 11% food, 2% clothing, 22% housing.
00:21:17.160 What blows my mind, and we've been looking at this calculation for a few years now,
00:21:21.740 is that despite the insanely high cost of housing for many people, that the average is still falling
00:21:29.240 onto the side of taxes, being more. And these same politicians are the ones who haven't gotten the
00:21:35.820 message that, hey, taxpayers are tapped out. Like, I can't remember the last time that I saw
00:21:42.000 a major urban mayor, for example, in Calgary or Edmonton or something here in Alberta saying,
00:21:46.500 you know what? I don't want these pay raises. I'm going to cut my own pay in half. Or I think that
00:21:52.100 it should be, you know, small business owners and retired teachers and police officers who are
00:21:56.520 doing a stipend in order to come here to city council. No, no. They just keep on adding more
00:22:02.180 and more layers of government. They're fattening their comm staff layer. So they don't have to
00:22:06.360 actually ask, answer questions to the media and to citizens. And they're jacking up their own pay.
00:22:11.240 That's just at the city level. And by the way, they're trying to save the world. I will point
00:22:15.560 that out. They're getting up in everybody's business instead of fixing potholes and keeping
00:22:19.500 the streets clean and safe. They're deciding, you know, who can't hold a concert, for example,
00:22:24.160 in their city. Like they're deciding to get like big globalists. And we're all paying the tab for
00:22:30.060 it. This is where it really gets me, is that if somebody wants to go on kind of what I said,
00:22:35.000 an ideological vision quest, I don't care whatever they want to do, but they're making taxpayers pay
00:22:40.100 for it all along the way. And I think it's part of the growing size of government and mission creep
00:22:46.400 that is causing that number to still stay at 42% for various levels of government.
00:22:50.660 Well, Hey, we were piling on a Ford there with his corporate welfare. So let's just continue. I mean,
00:22:56.020 Ford and the provincial politicians in Ontario are taking a massive raise, right? And they just had
00:23:01.740 an election. And guess what? I don't remember hearing a single time during that Ontario election
00:23:06.760 for talking about giving himself a massive pay raise or those other provincial politicians,
00:23:11.340 right? Like I live in Ontario. I don't remember knocks on the door saying, Hey, vote for me. I'm going
00:23:15.920 to take more of your money and stuff it into my own pocket. I don't remember having that conversation
00:23:20.500 even once during the Ontario election. Or how about the federal politicians, right? What April one,
00:23:26.120 they give themselves a raise every single year. They just took six pay raises since the beginning of
00:23:30.720 2020, all members of parliament, right? Six pay raises since the beginning of 2020 gross. You know,
00:23:36.640 what else is gross? The massive tax burden paying for all this government waste,
00:23:40.940 like the average tax bill. I mentioned 42% now. Well, that has grown more than 2,700%
00:23:49.180 since 1961. Okay. During that time, inflation went up by a little over 900%. So this massive tax bill
00:23:58.700 is growing out of control. And like, what are you getting for this massive growth in government?
00:24:03.780 Here's another stat I like to throw out. Okay. The federal bureaucracy, the cost of the federal
00:24:08.800 bureaucracy has gone up more than 70% in the last decade. Are you getting anywhere close to 70%
00:24:16.960 better services from the federal bureaucracy? Well, like if you're not on the taxpayer payroll,
00:24:22.920 I bet the answer to that question is a big fat no. Yeah. Sorry. I'm going to start getting upset
00:24:29.820 about this. I just read about an article about a young man who died waiting in an emergency room.
00:24:35.120 He waited more than eight hours, perfectly fit, healthy young man. The family is suing the city.
00:24:41.960 I believe they're suing the rather they're suing the hospital. I think they're going to sue the
00:24:46.500 province as well. Like it's one of those things where exactly to your point, the way you ask yourself,
00:24:52.200 think about all the services and they use that term loosely that you get from government. So yeah,
00:24:57.280 people should do that. Imagine for a second, do a thought process. Imagine you're on salary and you get
00:25:03.020 paid like, you know, the average person does every two weeks and it arrives in your bank account. Poof.
00:25:08.340 Imagine that amount of money being double, almost double. What kind of things could you do with that
00:25:15.040 cash? Could you afford better food? Could you save up for a house? Could you pay off that credit card
00:25:20.180 that's haunting you? Could you buy a vehicle? Like there's so many things you could do to better your
00:25:25.140 life and your lives of those around you if you had more of your own money, but the government takes
00:25:31.580 almost half of it. Now, extra part of the thought process. Think of the last time you were waiting in
00:25:37.420 the emergency room. Think of the last time that, you know, you were trying to find a decent place to
00:25:41.980 park where you weren't worried about your card and getting smashed and grabbed. Think about having to
00:25:45.840 stand in line at the passport office. Are you getting awesome, 70% better gold-plated services
00:25:51.200 from various levels of government? Probably not. So this is why people need to stand up and be heard.
00:25:58.180 Franco, anything that you think people should really zero in on when it comes to advocacy and
00:26:02.740 standing up for themselves? Like this is what we specialize in is encouraging people to push back
00:26:08.060 on their various levels of government to say, hey, I don't like spending half my paycheck to various
00:26:13.100 levels of you guys. And I expect better services for this and quit wasting my money. And by the way,
00:26:18.340 they quit telling me what kind of car I need to buy and drive. What should they do?
00:26:22.540 Well, I mean, always, you know, democracy is a participation sport, right? So, you know,
00:26:27.860 you might say, oh, I don't care about politics, but guess what? Those politicians and bureaucrats
00:26:31.800 sure do care about your wallet and your money. So you have to, you have to fight back. You have to stay
00:26:36.460 in the game. Look, one thing that I would say to the audience here is like, there's going to be a
00:26:40.320 real big fight with the federal government union bosses, right? You hear Carney talk about saving money.
00:26:45.760 Who knows if that's actually going to happen, right? But you already have the government union
00:26:49.640 bosses in Ottawa, lighting their hair on fire, pretending to be chicken little, yelling,
00:26:53.580 the sky will fall if the government finally saves some money. But guess what, folks, like they're
00:26:58.680 supposed to be public servants, but like who is really serving who, right? Who's really serving who
00:27:03.680 these days? Because, you know, the federal government added what 99,000 extra government bureaucrats to 0.92
00:27:09.260 the taxpayer payroll in the last decade. Hey, newsflash folks, the government is not supposed
00:27:15.600 to be a white collar welfare scheme. Okay. So we need cuts and we need everyone to be pushing back
00:27:21.500 against those greedy government union bosses and being like, no, ordinary Canadians are demanding
00:27:27.040 the federal government to finally cut the fat. I might just start calling the Capitol where you live
00:27:32.860 that white collar welfare scheme. That's really has a ring to it. Franco Terrazzano, federal director
00:27:39.680 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, doing God's work there stationed in Ottawa. Thank you so much.
00:27:45.060 Hey, thanks, Chris.
00:27:46.820 So Franco is absolutely right there. Whether it comes to being able to assemble or the freedom of 0.94
00:27:53.500 expression or telling the government to quit taking half of your paycheck, do that vision thing where
00:28:00.260 you're imagining your pay being doubled in your account, it really fires you up. So the best thing
00:28:06.220 to do is to spread the word. So take this show, take this message of pushing for more accountability,
00:28:13.720 of speaking up for yourself, of speaking truth to power, the way our friends on the left used to be
00:28:19.260 able to say, and spread it around to folks who are your friends and family who need to be woken up,
00:28:25.860 who need to be shown that they are getting terrible value and big bossy government for all of their
00:28:34.080 hard work. Thank you so much for watching the Candace Malcolm show. Be sure to stay with the Candace
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00:28:45.460 freedom here in Canada.