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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to you all Friday March 17th 2023 happy St. Patrick's Day to the Irish among

00:00:18.040 you and the 95% of other people who just pretend they are Irish inexplicably on St. Patrick's Day

00:00:24.300 you don't need to pretend to be Irish today you can just go out and wear green and drink

00:00:28.340 if that is your prerogative joined by Sue Ann Levy the co-hostess with the mostess Levy that's an 0.82

00:00:35.580 authentic Irish name is it not Sue Ann? Actually I come from roots of Mick Levy but I changed it when

00:00:41.740 my relatives changed it when they landed in Canada from Mick Levy to just Levy. Okay so Sue Ann

00:00:47.920 Mick Levy and Andrew O'Lawton here for Fake News Friday there we go we're starting off with the

00:00:53.220 fake news being the very names by which we identify ourselves. How was the week Sue Ann?

00:01:00.300 Great cannot complain. One thing not fake is that I've been on a great program I encourage your

00:01:07.960 viewers lost nine pounds so far in four weeks. There we go we can start doing infomercials on

00:01:15.380 Fake News Friday but it'll be honest coming from you people won't know what to think.

00:01:19.060 It's not a fake I'm not faking it. I might need to do like that program times 20 for it to be

00:01:25.920 meaningful but we'll we'll have to chat off there about that. Lots of stuff happened this week in the

00:01:31.300 world of fake news one in particular that I want to focus on which is a bit of a bigger picture topic

00:01:37.060 I know we spoke in the last show or maybe it was a couple of weeks ago about the trend of drag story

00:01:43.200 times that are seemingly pervasive now at every library and county fair imaginable but what's

00:01:50.440 interesting is that the focus of the outrage from the media is not on these shows but on people who

00:01:56.500 dare to raise questions about these sorts of shows. In Calgary they've now made it illegal to protest

00:02:02.200 them and the media likes to talk about this as being the new trend of the far right. There was a piece

00:02:08.840 in global news that talks about how anti-LGBTQ protests are on the rise in Canada. What's going

00:02:15.260 on the reporter asked and I think let's just start and talk about the headline there. I don't think

00:02:21.320 there is at all an honest way you could say that protesting something very narrow and very specific

00:02:28.380 like a drag show of any kind or a drag show for kids is an anti-LGBTQ2 protest.

00:02:35.300 I certainly don't feel it and you know that I'm L in the LGBT series of alphabet letters so I you know I

00:02:45.980 don't feel it. I think it's a legitimate these are legitimate concerns by parents. You know my dear wife

00:02:53.960 asked me whatever happened to librarians reading stories to kids in libraries? Whatever happened to

00:03:01.040 that? Why do we have to bring in these drag queens who are outrageous and really are very very you know 1.00

00:03:09.740 geared to mature audiences? They're actually some of them very obscene so I think little kids don't

00:03:16.580 understand it at all. So you know so the people I hate the word the use of far right too Andrew. So

00:03:25.200 anybody who protests or is concerned about the impact on kids young kids we're talking very young

00:03:31.660 kids is far right. What has happened to our world? What has happened to our you know the sentiment in

00:03:38.420 Canada? We're not allowed to speak up about this sort of thing. Yeah that's a great point about the

00:03:43.500 librarians. I mean this is librarian erasure if nothing else. Where's the librarian union standing up

00:03:50.200 about you know having their jobs taken away for for whatever the reason. But you know it's interesting

00:03:56.240 because the idea that we see people that are frustrated with this very narrow and very specific

00:04:02.160 thing. I would say it's not even an anti-T protest necessarily let alone an anti-LGBTQ2 protest because

00:04:10.000 they're in my experience anyone who's raising issues with this is not saying we don't like drag

00:04:16.520 performances they're saying hey keep it away from the children and we can debate that point. There are

00:04:21.220 drag queens that have gone on TV and talked about why they think it's important and why everyone needs

00:04:25.500 to stop their criticism. Let's have that debate and we can have it without denigrating people as being

00:04:30.860 part of this new far-right cabal which is what the media is doing and in doing so relying on the

00:04:37.300 Canadian anti-hate network. So I know you have a lot of experience writing about this and researching

00:04:42.740 this. Why who are they and why has the media given them the authority on determining what's extremist?

00:04:49.860 Well they're joined at the hip with the liberal government headed by Bernie Farber. He used to be

00:04:53.980 the CEO of the United Jewish Federation and he kind of parted ways with them and I think he's a really

00:05:05.560 bitter sort of mean guy and he you know he's formed this anti-hate network again funded by the Trudeau

00:05:13.680 government and the interesting thing is that they spew in many ways more hate than it than you or I or

00:05:22.440 anybody that they criticize. So they target people who have an opinion they don't you know I haven't

00:05:29.320 heard them speak up. For instance they did not speak up about or came out very late out of the gate

00:05:34.500 about the Laith Maroof scandal. You know the gentleman who was funded who's virulently

00:05:40.540 anti-semitic again funded. They had to wait until the Trudeau government made it acceptable to criticize

00:05:45.420 him before they would criticize. Exactly. So they're they're biased they're conflicted and I you know I

00:05:52.700 don't know why the media I mean I used to not yell at but say to the people I worked with that

00:05:58.420 Toronto Sun why are you even quoting Bernie Farber because he is so far out there now his opinion is

00:06:05.580 not perceived particularly in the Jewish community with any weight whatsoever so and I mean now they 1.00

00:06:12.820 they weigh in on things that aren't hateful and ignore things that are hate. Yeah Bernie Farber just

00:06:20.860 for context a lot of people might know of him because a year ago or just over a year ago during the

00:06:25.940 convoy he tweeted out this vile anti-semitic poster that he said a friend of his saw at the convoy in

00:06:34.120 Ottawa and it of course turned out that the photo had been taken like three months earlier in Miami

00:06:39.940 before the convoy started before the convoy existed and when he was called on this by Jonathan Kaye he

00:06:46.740 said oh well it's the type of thing you would see at the convoy so he creates and invents hate where

00:06:53.220 no hate exists and and as you mentioned Sue Ann he ignores it in many cases when it does exist if

00:06:58.140 it goes against his narrative. Exactly I mean that was the funniest thing being caught in the act with

00:07:03.740 a flyer that was from Miami posted in Miami and you know but he eggs on people that's the thing so the

00:07:11.700 media still think he's an authority and he eggs on people and encourages them to hate uh what say you and

00:07:19.820 I are are talking about with legitimate concern I have to say that the anti-hate network hates me

00:07:27.560 so you know hates me for having an opinion and some common sense but this is like how crazy our world

00:07:34.400 has become with these kind of people who are are funded by the Trudeau government and do the exact

00:07:41.140 opposite of what they're really supposed to do in a real world. Yeah and some of it is just disingenuous so

00:07:48.160 there's one person here who is uh quoted in this article in Global who says that the criticisms of

00:07:54.600 drag story time is coming from white heterosexual men from the far right with religious backgrounds

00:08:00.420 that are trying to demonize the LGBTQ2 community and I would like to note that I'm getting the 0.93

00:08:05.360 acronym right every single time I'm not fumbling one bit even getting the two in there and the thing

00:08:10.540 about that that I find troubling for many reasons is that if you look at the landscape of who it is

00:08:16.100 that's criticizing these performances it's actually more in my experience coming from women that are 1.00

00:08:21.860 concerned about the implications on women's spaces of the trans movement it's not I mean yes there's a

00:08:26.700 there sort of is a bedfellows uh between radical feminists and the Christian right on some of these 0.83

00:08:32.560 issues but overwhelmingly the the issues I'm seeing are coming from mothers they're coming from lesbians 1.00

00:08:38.300 they're coming from gay men that don't like what's happening here. Exactly and this speaks to and I'm glad you 1.00

00:08:44.160 brought that out because this speaks to the great divide in the LGBTQRS community because there are

00:08:51.900 okay two two one two three um there are those who espouse queer theory well I hate the word queer I

00:09:02.400 absolutely hate it but now they want to be called queer because that means they're radical and progressive

00:09:07.060 um but the average person the mainstream say LGB well I don't know if I should include T because the T's 0.98

00:09:15.420 have become radical but the mainstream people uh abhor this kind of stuff they have core queer theory

00:09:22.300 they think it's radical they're upset about kids uh being indoctrinated in schools and it relates to that

00:09:28.780 as well gender ideology at a young age being you know taught in schools um so this has created this

00:09:36.480 huge divide so you've got these really radical trans people and radical you know queer people as they

00:09:43.260 call themselves um they're the ones who are pushing this and the anti-hate network has um latched on with

00:09:51.200 them and you know one person we we've talked about Faye Johnson for example the trans activist who's

00:09:59.320 making also Hershey or they she yeah yeah who's also whatever the chocolate's called now yeah Hershey

00:10:04.980 who's making money from the Trudeau government it gets funded she's also she is also funded by the

00:10:12.760 Trudeau government and is also um espousing this queer theory where she hates any lesbians any women 0.99

00:10:20.540 who say well you might be a biological male you're not really you know and discuss the reality of

00:10:27.600 the biology of transgenderism so you know this this is you know again like I said to you the great

00:10:35.580 divide that has occurred and you know enabled by organizations by the but like the Canadian anti-hate

00:10:42.420 network well and I think you're right there Sue and extreme voices in any movement are always the

00:10:47.760 loudest and they they cloud out people like I I'd I've never talked about this but I had a when I ran

00:10:52.180 for office in 2018 I had a really heartwarming encounter and and people that are familiar with

00:10:57.100 the history know that I said some things that I I terribly regret about uh the gay community and and

00:11:01.980 uh they were coming up when I ran for office and I knocked on the door of one guy when I was out

00:11:06.200 canvassing and I said you know hi I'm Andrew Lawton I'm seeking your vote and he said I'm gay

00:11:10.160 and I said oh I'm you know I that's fine I'm I'm Andrew and he said I don't give a bleep if you

00:11:16.120 march in a pride parade are you going to lower my taxes and I I think that there are probably a lot 1.00

00:11:22.520 more people like him than there are people trying to vilify and demonize and on race as well I think

00:11:29.720 there are a lot more people that would welcome a dialogue even with people that they might have

00:11:33.500 some pretty fundamental disagreements on than people that want to silence other people yes and that's

00:11:39.200 created this huge divide in Canada and I dare say it goes back to the federal government they're

00:11:44.560 funding all these crazy groups who are sending out messages that you're a white privileged male I'm a 0.94

00:11:51.920 I don't know white lesbian Jewish you know and I'm a white supremacist as well that's the that's the 0.88

00:11:58.800 yes yes a turf exactly yeah well again I think it's safe to say that the left does very well this idea 0.94

00:12:08.740 of reclaiming a word that was the whole uh impetus behind slut walk it's as you mentioned queer I 0.85

00:12:13.900 mean that's another one it used to be this thing that you'd never dare say it's like the n-word and

00:12:17.920 now it's something that people are calling themselves so we need to reclaim things ourselves

00:12:22.220 don't let the anti-hate network redefine what extreme is that's right so we are but we're not far

00:12:30.100 right I love that I absolutely love that so I always say to these people are you far left

00:12:35.160 what is far right you're far left obviously if you criticize us call us these yeah but far but far

00:12:43.180 left is deemed like fun and harmless whereas far right is like deemed the uh uh second coming of

00:12:49.060 Adolf Hitler this is a bit of a heavier topic so let's revert back to one that we always enjoy 0.98

00:12:53.540 which is Canada state broadcaster the CBC getting a little bit defensive on Twitter this week the

00:13:01.220 National Post published a column by Chris Selle which I actually agree with the fundamental point

00:13:06.980 of he said CBC can't hope to measure up to even the BBC's fiascos and what he's talking about here

00:13:12.220 is that BBC despite being a state broadcaster tends to be regarded a bit better because it produces

00:13:18.240 better content I mean some of the British programs that BBC has uh released onto the world have been

00:13:24.740 vastly superior to CBC which has given us a couple of goodies like Schitt's Creek which is very popular

00:13:31.000 and Kim's Convenience but they also give you need I remind you the colonial or anti-colonial talking

00:13:37.840 tomato isn't it true that feminists don't like boys I think we're really gonna need this episode 1.00

00:13:45.240 or the gender fluid South Asian nanny that is living a complicated existence yeah not exactly the 1.00

00:13:54.700 stuff of BBC but CBC gets a little defensive of this they tweet out a screenshot of the National

00:14:01.160 Post column and say we've got some internationally award-winning Canadian creators production teams

00:14:07.100 and actors who might disagree Sue Ann doth they protest too much absolutely I mean if CBC would

00:14:15.600 stick to the Schitt's Creek and Kim Convenience kind of shows and stop trying to niche market this is

00:14:23.540 what it is niche marketing appealing to a very select group of people I mean a transgendered nanny that's

00:14:31.440 very interesting but who would watch that you've got to wonder about their ratings if they aren't uh if

00:14:38.500 they weren't propped up by the Liberal government would they be producing number one these shows and

00:14:44.380 number two uh you know with their ratings they have no we don't know anything about their ratings

00:14:52.280 let's put it that way so uh I dare say maybe three people watch these kinds of shows but again they're

00:15:00.280 bailed out by the federal government so they don't have to worry uh BBC actually does produce some good stuff

00:15:06.440 and and I've seen some of it on Netflix and it's clever and you know and there's some thought put

00:15:14.620 into it this is all appealing and pandering to a select group and CBC has lost its way it's just

00:15:22.060 really lost its way when it produces stuff like this I mean I try to keep on top of media in Canada so

00:15:29.040 our colleague Harrison Faulkner put together a list of some CBC shows now I've not verified this so if it's

00:15:34.980 wrong you can take it up with Harrison I'm just going off of his word here instead of uh telling

00:15:39.320 my computer that I might like looking at CBC's website every now and then but he put a list of

00:15:43.640 shows together that I've never heard of which sound insanely uh CBC-esque one is Canadian Ballroom

00:15:50.660 Extravaganza in which 10 ballroom stars such as they are pair up with 10 queer and trans filmmakers 0.51

00:15:58.960 for dance battles there's revenge of the black best friend about a self-help guru who wants to 0.92

00:16:06.460 cancel the entertainment industry's reliance on the token black characters there's virgins which 0.99

00:16:13.060 follows the lives of four women who are too modest for the big city but too provocative for the east 0.60

00:16:18.120 African homes from which they come oh some ethnic tension there uh real blackity talk that's okay 0.99

00:16:25.840 real blackity talk shines perspectives on non-binary black folk in Canada and then Queens which is a

00:16:33.060 comedy mystery whodunit following an eclectic cast of Toronto drag queens whodunit is probably the evil 1.00

00:16:40.380 uh white conservative character without even seeing the show that's probably the culprit of it so

00:16:45.400 Sue Ann are these on your uh and your lovely wife's uh evening viewing viewing uh I've never ever heard of

00:16:51.780 them and and you would be in the whodunit you would be Andrew in a trench coat with uh yeah the

00:16:59.040 second well that's the thing you could probably see whodunit just by virtue of the character it's

00:17:03.100 like I don't know uh because they couldn't like cast the drag queens as the criminals because that would 1.00

00:17:07.880 be stigmatizing like I I'm a part of me thinks that Harrison has pranked me here and he just like

00:17:13.660 plugged in some inputs into one of those AI uh generators of just like give me some titles of

00:17:18.900 woke CBC shows and these aren't even real things but I think they're real well again I'm talked about

00:17:25.820 pandering to a select group and they don't even make sense this stuff is you know I have no problem

00:17:31.880 now I mean we see commercials with people of color and visible minorities we have you know men kissing

00:17:39.200 on tv I don't care include everybody we you know and and shows have gay characters they have 0.87

00:17:48.080 uh all kinds of visible minorities but to target a entire show around these specific oppressed

00:17:56.920 intersectional groups is madness it's just you know I can't believe that they have any viewers for these 1.00

00:18:05.300 shows other than I don't I don't think they do I like because they're not driven by ad revenue

00:18:09.820 they're driven by subsidies and that's like the entire uh CBC existence here now so can you imagine

00:18:16.320 them filming the drag queen one in Toronto them running up and down the street looking for you and

00:18:21.680 your trench coat yeah so I I you know what if CBC does an open casting call I might even just audition to

00:18:28.280 uh uh to get it over with here uh all right we've got time for one more here a Waterloo region that is

00:18:35.300 in southwestern Ontario near me near me their public schools diversity job fair has garnered racially

00:18:41.680 charged backlash they wanted to hire more indigenous black and racialized staff but now people are calling

00:18:49.080 out well why are they discriminating against white candidates who may be just as qualified for the job

00:18:55.380 now interestingly enough they turned off comments on their tweet uh because of the backlash so they

00:19:01.440 didn't seem to like that people were calling out uh hey why is one's race relevant at all to their job

00:19:06.280 at the Waterloo region school board well I think this has been going on and you know as you know I did a

00:19:11.460 story about it I think this has been going on for a long long time but quietly now they feel that they

00:19:17.180 have no problem just broadcasting their uh it's not even equity hiring it's selective hiring and I do

00:19:24.940 think it's sort of a reverse form of racism in the list of people that are invited to the job fair

00:19:31.080 are custodians and maintenance people and secretarial staff so what are you going to do if you don't have

00:19:38.580 the qualifications but you have the you know appropriate uh skin color or whatever are you going

00:19:45.080 to get a leg up on other people I mean it's it's a recipe for disaster I think uh whatever happened to

00:19:51.600 hiring based on merit I thought that that was you know basically a human right that was part of the

00:19:57.520 human rights code and then now everything has been topsy turned on its head really turned on its head or

00:20:04.120 ear or whatever you want to call it um and you get selected treatment if you are indigenous in this case

00:20:12.820 or uh how uh are racialized as they call it or are black and you know it's the statistics I quoted in

00:20:23.180 my article the student population is very limited in those groups however they're not asking for Asian

00:20:32.160 teachers for example they're not asking for LGBT teachers they're narrowing it very very uh selectively

00:20:40.140 to this group of people I don't think that's right but I mean this is the Waterloo School Board

00:20:45.420 sorry to drone on about this but this is the Waterloo School Board I've done too many um stories

00:20:51.060 to count about the craziness that's gone on there particularly under the education director

00:20:56.500 Jihan Jiwan Chanika who doesn't like to capitalize his name just to jump in they were the ones who back

00:21:02.320 in October posted a thanksgiving thanksgiving tweet that was like happy fall long weekend

00:21:07.920 and they canceled valentine's day at some schools yeah so you know it's just a progression of a long

00:21:16.000 line of things that have happened but uh I think the pendulum has swung this way far far out and

00:21:23.600 hopefully it'll swing back but right now I'm like my goodness be interesting to um to have someone

00:21:31.340 like Trudeau go in blackface and see if he's let into the job fair

00:21:35.000 you went there I didn't go there it was all her take it up with Sue Ann I did no such thing there

00:21:44.860 uh that anyone can take issue with but uh yeah you know I will say on a more serious point to try to

00:21:50.820 pivot it back to something that doesn't get me canceled alongside you uh by uh you know tonight

00:21:54.880 we're talking about some cases entry-level jobs uh you know a custodian a secretarial worker

00:22:01.200 administrator whatever they're called you know I'm actually a big believer in diversity in the

00:22:06.340 workforce when diversity enhances the workforce so if you have for example a marketing team you

00:22:12.220 don't want all white men because they're probably going to think more similarly about some things than 0.89

00:22:16.460 people that have different backgrounds on some jobs though I don't think it matters I don't think 1.00

00:22:21.520 it matters uh the race of someone who's pouring a coffee at Tim Hortons I don't think it matters the

00:22:25.680 race of someone who's teaching your children when there's only going to be one teacher in the

00:22:29.600 classroom I mean if you're going to have you know like the pantheon and have you know like the panel

00:22:33.740 of gods in the classroom and you want one from every group and every nation and tribe on the earth

00:22:38.840 then fine but for the most part I don't get why it matters and and this idea of focusing on these

00:22:44.000 statistics and numbers it's like these school boards are trying to solve a problem that I don't think

00:22:48.440 actually exists well that the problem you're right the problem is that there are poor math

00:22:53.820 poor literacy uh poor reading scores at school boards right across the province so they think

00:23:00.300 that their logic is that if we bring in more faces that match the kids who are in the classroom

00:23:06.540 then they'll be able to relate to these people and um then all of a sudden you know everything will

00:23:14.180 break free and they'll do well in their testing and they'll achieve blah blah blah but that's not 0.62

00:23:19.020 the case a good teacher is a good teacher and it's actually exalting to white supremacists like

00:23:26.000 yourself because it's saying that you don't understand you don't understand um you know the 0.91

00:23:33.860 issues of you know blacks or racialized people I mean you know it's crazy stuff 1.00

00:23:41.700 uh yeah you called out justin trudeau and blackface I get to be the white supremacist we are just like 0.98

00:23:47.720 canceling ourselves and each other every which way on this show let's end it before we do any more

00:23:52.100 damage here uh sue ann levy fantastic work as always at true north that people can catch up with

00:23:57.820 at tnc.news uh we will talk to you all next week

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The Candice Malcolm Show - March 17, 2023

Fake News Friday ｜ CBC brags about its “award-winning Canadian creators”

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