The Candice Malcolm Show - October 28, 2022


Fake News Friday ｜ CTV News is LITERALLY fake news!

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In this episode of Fake News Friday, host Andrew Lawton and co-host Harrison Faulkner discuss an error at CTV News that could only be described as the worst in the history of fake news, and how the media covered it up.

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00:00:30.000 Welcome everyone to another edition of Fake News Friday.
00:00:43.920 Finding our way through the blizzard of lies that so often is heaped upon us by politicians and the mainstream media alike.
00:00:51.040 I am Andrew Lawton. It is Friday, October 28th.
00:00:54.040 And I'm joined, as always, by Harrison Faulkner, who you can normally catch on Ratioed.
00:01:00.020 And Harrison has been dutifully and diligently watching the Public Order Emergency Commission hearings all week, as have I.
00:01:07.480 And you're still awake. You've managed to survive to Friday.
00:01:10.340 It's been difficult. I mean, I think you touched on it on your show yesterday, Wednesday, what day it was, that, you know, this has been, there are parts of it that are extremely exciting.
00:01:20.940 And then there are parts of it that are just so dull, so difficult to get through.
00:01:25.220 And I feel like they're kind of, at a lot of times, they're trying to muddy the waters and slow things down.
00:01:29.820 But it's been, you know what, it's been really eye-opening.
00:01:32.280 And I think we're going to, there's some, there's some reporting that we're going to talk about on the show today that just shows you where the different sides of the media are coming from this.
00:01:40.340 And where the narratives are coming at and what, what people are trying to do.
00:01:43.840 It's really, one side is trying to get to the bottom of the Emergencies Act.
00:01:48.300 And then a bunch of other sides of this are trying to just cover for their clients, right?
00:01:53.040 Trying to make sure that they can clean their hands of this mess and try and pin the blame on somebody else.
00:01:58.560 But all that is to say that on the show, it's sometimes difficult, Andrew, to find great examples of fake news.
00:02:04.580 And then sometimes, some weeks, we get literal fake news.
00:02:08.040 Like actual, just fake reporting into our hands that just land to us.
00:02:12.800 And we all of a sudden have a full show full of actual examples of fake news.
00:02:17.540 Not that other shows aren't fully fake news, but this one, this one's pretty good.
00:02:21.980 I've never seen actually this many examples of just straight up fake news, quite literally fake news.
00:02:27.740 So, excited to get into it.
00:02:29.580 Yeah, let's get into it.
00:02:30.660 And first off, let me congratulate the new mayor-elect of Winnipeg, Mr. Glenn Murray.
00:02:37.420 What's that?
00:02:39.760 Glenn Murray isn't the mayor of Winnipeg.
00:02:42.460 No.
00:02:43.280 Okay.
00:02:44.180 Scott Gillingham.
00:02:46.420 Okay.
00:02:48.040 That's not what CTV said.
00:02:49.780 No, no, no.
00:02:50.260 CTV was very clear.
00:02:52.000 Glenn Murray had been elected mayor of Winnipeg in Wednesday night's election.
00:02:58.080 They declared it.
00:02:59.020 They said that he was the victor.
00:03:01.880 It was all done.
00:03:02.800 They were popping champagne corks.
00:03:04.840 And if you look at the results, it looked pretty close.
00:03:07.860 Not something you'd want to necessarily be calling that early.
00:03:11.100 Then CTV, of course, ends up deleting it and says,
00:03:14.560 CTV News has deleted a previous tweet saying Glenn Murray was declared elected by the CTV News decision desk.
00:03:21.120 The desk is now revisiting the numbers.
00:03:23.920 As more polls come in, as of now, CTV News is not declaring a mayoral winner in Winnipeg.
00:03:29.180 So this wasn't just an erroneous tweet.
00:03:31.720 It wasn't just like the Jerry Lewis or the Jerry Lee Lewis obituary that they just like accidentally published before they should have.
00:03:39.320 No, this was one where their decision desk, whatever that is at CTV Winnipeg, had decided that he had won and was very far off the mark there.
00:03:49.520 So it was literal fake news.
00:03:51.420 You're right.
00:03:51.780 No, well, and I have to say when I was watching this unfold, I had a little bit of sympathy because I didn't fully, I thought it might have been an error.
00:04:00.220 Like I thought, you know, here's a little secret for people who don't know this.
00:04:03.340 Of course, this is the truth.
00:04:05.280 A lot of these articles are pre-written before the actual results are out so you can get stuff up when it happens.
00:04:10.680 And so I thought at the moment, I thought, oh, you know, this is a bad mistake from some junior editor somewhere.
00:04:17.020 Yeah, they just published like a few minutes too early or something.
00:04:20.100 And then, but then, but then they put the tweet up, Andrew.
00:04:22.840 So they published the article and then they put the tweet up as well, basically making it seem as though to the poor Glenn Murray camp who had their fleeting moment of Glenn Murray's mayoralty of Winnipeg was, was short.
00:04:37.580 But it ended very quickly, right?
00:04:39.620 It ended quickly on that same night because he had won, but then he had lost because CTV just made a big error there.
00:04:47.240 And I think there was, there was talk about how this had happened, I think, in Quebec City previously or another Quebec City where the, the news covering the event called the wrong winner and then had to pull it back and then, and then figure it all out.
00:04:59.340 But I'm just trying to figure out where, how are these decision makers getting the, getting these stuff, getting this stuff wrong, Andrew?
00:05:05.400 How, how are they making this point where they, they call a winner and then they have enough, it's, it's close enough for it to keep going and it goes to somebody else.
00:05:13.120 That's a big time error there.
00:05:14.560 And it's not just a, it's not just an error by a junior editor.
00:05:17.500 They published the article, then they put the tweet up after just to, just to rub salt in their own wound, I guess.
00:05:22.340 I'm not sure what was going on over there at CTV Winnipeg.
00:05:25.340 Yeah, like the cable news outlets have people that are experts in statistics and mathematics and people that know the political histories and they're comparing county demographics to past election results.
00:05:36.220 And when they make a decision that, you know, Joe Biden has won Iowa or something, they're, they're doing it with all of that.
00:05:42.720 And it's not to say they don't get it wrong sometimes.
00:05:44.740 I know in the last election, there was a lot of controversy about Fox calling Arizona for Biden, even though that ended up being right ultimately.
00:05:52.340 But like, I don't know.
00:05:53.560 And with all due respect to the people of Winnipeg and CTV Winnipeg, I don't know how sophisticated the decision desk is at Winnipeg.
00:06:00.720 Like, I don't know if CTV Winnipeg's decision desk has all of the quants with their numbers or if it's just like a guy named Joe who just kind of looks and says, yeah, that, that, that looks like a Murray.
00:06:13.100 That looks like a Murray win.
00:06:14.680 I said that, I think that's the big challenge here.
00:06:16.680 But a lot was hinging on him.
00:06:17.900 A lot was hinging, or her, a lot was hinging on that person at the decision desk.
00:06:22.060 And they fell short of expectations.
00:06:24.120 Maybe, Andrew, it was one of those things where the, the, the, the guy making the counting, the, doing the counting for CTV News had some plans later in the evening.
00:06:31.600 It was getting later than he had wanted.
00:06:33.120 Things had been pushed back.
00:06:34.460 He thought, you know, I'm just done tonight.
00:06:36.240 I'm just going to call it, pack up my things.
00:06:38.820 I don't want to do overtime.
00:06:40.380 I'm heading home.
00:06:41.500 Murray's in the lead right now.
00:06:42.700 Yeah, Murray's the winner.
00:06:43.560 I really hope I didn't call this wrong.
00:06:46.300 It would really be bad.
00:06:46.960 Peace out, I'm out.
00:06:47.820 He's doing the George Costanza thing.
00:06:49.260 I'm out.
00:06:49.860 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:50.780 And then turns out, well, they, they called the race wrong.
00:06:53.780 So an example of, of, of straight fake news.
00:06:56.460 You got it.
00:06:56.880 It's just perfect fodder for the show.
00:06:59.280 And like I said, it doesn't come around that, that often.
00:07:01.940 You have to say they're not, they're not this, this bad, right?
00:07:05.400 But when it, when it does happen, it deserves mockery.
00:07:07.960 And that's a big error there.
00:07:09.400 That's, it's not just a, it's not just a little error by somebody, a junior, a junior
00:07:14.200 journalist at CTV News Winnipeg.
00:07:16.300 No, that's a, that's a full-on missed call.
00:07:19.200 So Scott Gillingham is the mayor of Winnipeg and Glenn Murray is desperately trying to put
00:07:24.660 corks back in champagne bottles so he can get the refund at the local liquor store there.
00:07:29.920 Uh, let's move one province east from Manitoba to Ontario, where some of you are looking at
00:07:37.320 your map trying to fact check me just now.
00:07:38.940 I know that.
00:07:39.520 Yeah.
00:07:39.680 I know my Ontario, Manitoba geography, sadly.
00:07:42.820 Uh, Doug Ford, as we know last week was issued a summons to testify before the public order
00:07:48.640 emergency commission, as was his former solicitor general, Sylvia Jones.
00:07:53.600 Now, Sylvia Jones has come down with COVID in the last day, which I presume is the same
00:08:00.120 strain of COVID that Justin Trudeau got when the truckers came to Ottawa and wanted to meet
00:08:05.240 with him.
00:08:05.660 So it's a very, very pervasive train right when your presence is needed somewhere, it hits
00:08:10.520 you and it's very unpleasant.
00:08:12.740 Uh, but Doug Ford doesn't have the convenient excuse of COVID to not testify.
00:08:17.260 He's just saying he doesn't want to and doesn't think he should have to.
00:08:21.200 But here's where the fake news Friday material comes from, because when Doug Ford was previously
00:08:27.220 discussing this, he was rather clear that the reason he wasn't testifying is because
00:08:31.940 he had never been asked.
00:08:33.800 So he said that he had never been asked right at a press conference standing with Justin
00:08:38.620 Trudeau.
00:08:39.140 This was at the beginning of last week.
00:08:41.220 He said while standing side by side with Justin Trudeau, that he stood shoulder to shoulder
00:08:46.680 with Justin Trudeau over his invocation of the emergencies act.
00:08:49.820 And when asked by reporters why he wasn't testifying at the emergencies act commission,
00:08:55.260 given that the Ottawa mayor and the entire senior federal cabinet pretty much is also
00:09:00.160 testifying, including the prime minister, he was noticeably absent from the witness list
00:09:04.920 along with Sylvia Jones.
00:09:06.000 So reporters started asking him, what are you, what are you, why are you not testifying
00:09:09.840 here?
00:09:10.120 What's the deal with that?
00:09:11.260 And he plainly and flatly said to reporters, I have not been asked to testify.
00:09:16.220 I don't think it's that, I don't think we need to get a transcript here and parse through
00:09:19.480 the language.
00:09:20.180 It's quite clear to the ear.
00:09:21.900 Doug Ford saying, I have not been asked to testify at the emergencies act commission.
00:09:26.460 Now, again, we're going to go through this because you'll realize that there's some,
00:09:29.460 there's some, there's some games being played by the media here.
00:09:32.960 Some who are trying to basically, I think, kind of sweep under the rug.
00:09:37.220 The fact that Doug Ford is now, has now two different, completely different stories in
00:09:42.260 as many weeks, Andrew.
00:09:43.460 Again, he's saying he was never asked to testify.
00:09:45.520 So here's that clip that he was never asked to testify while standing beside Justin Trudeau.
00:09:50.600 Hi, David Thurton, CBC.
00:09:51.860 I'm going to ask this question to Premier Ford.
00:09:53.400 Going back to my colleague, Kevin Gallagher's question, how come Premier Ford, you're not
00:09:58.140 testifying at this inquiry?
00:10:00.260 Were you asked?
00:10:00.980 Did you decline?
00:10:01.720 I have not, I have not been asked again.
00:10:06.980 I want to repeat what I said earlier.
00:10:08.720 We have top officials from the OPP that were running the operation with conjunction with
00:10:13.500 municipal police agencies and the RCMP.
00:10:18.080 You know, our police did an incredible job.
00:10:20.460 They were very peaceful.
00:10:21.740 They moved forward.
00:10:22.640 And I am so proud to stand here and back our police right across this country and right
00:10:26.780 across this province.
00:10:27.940 I'll always support our police.
00:10:29.400 They're professional.
00:10:30.800 They're polite.
00:10:31.260 And they ended up getting the job done.
00:10:34.200 Thank you.
00:10:35.220 So that was early last week.
00:10:37.740 Then the emergencies act commission summoned Premier Ford and Sylvia Jones.
00:10:44.020 So they said, we've tried to get you to come here twice now.
00:10:47.760 You've turned us down now twice.
00:10:49.880 So because of that, we're now summoning you to appear under oath.
00:10:53.720 Again, that kind of flies in the face of what Doug Ford had been saying, which was he had
00:10:58.280 never been asked to testify.
00:10:59.600 The emergencies act commission now says he has, they sent him two invitations to testify and
00:11:05.300 it was repeatedly turned down.
00:11:07.060 So then here's where it gets interesting.
00:11:08.800 The story has all of a sudden changed from Doug Ford, but here's where CP24 and fake news
00:11:14.200 comes in.
00:11:14.740 Listen to this CP24 report on October 24th, talking about the summons that Doug Ford had
00:11:21.540 received and listen, listen carefully at about 20 seconds in to what the journalist says regarding
00:11:27.480 Doug Ford, having been told by the commission to testify.
00:11:31.480 Listen into that.
00:11:32.220 Lawyers for the Public Order Emergency Commission say they asked Ford and Jones to sit down last
00:11:37.140 month, but both of them refused multiple requests.
00:11:40.560 Last week, Ford told reporters he'd been asked to appear.
00:11:44.000 A letter sent from the commission says it believes Ford and Jones have relevant evidence to the
00:11:48.340 inquiry's mandate.
00:11:49.720 However, the attorney general's office says it plans to fight the summons.
00:11:53.060 There it is, Andrew.
00:11:54.360 So the journalist there in the CP24 report says very clearly, Doug Ford told reporters
00:12:00.740 he had been asked to testify.
00:12:03.540 Now we can go back to the other clip and we can listen to that, but one more time, I'm
00:12:07.240 pretty sure the premier says, I was never asked to testify by the Emergencies Act Commission.
00:12:12.540 So there it is, Andrew.
00:12:13.220 I'm trying to figure out what's right and what's wrong here.
00:12:15.620 How could CP24 tell the people, tell people in Toronto and their audience that Doug Ford
00:12:20.700 told reporters he had been asked to testify?
00:12:23.480 He clearly said he didn't.
00:12:25.120 I mean, again, this is another example of straight fake news and it's kind of gone under the
00:12:29.220 radar because it's just one little slip of a word in a two-second clip on CP24, but these
00:12:35.320 things matter to me and I think it deserves to be called out.
00:12:37.980 It's the old Groucho Marx thing that CP24 is now appropriated as its slogan.
00:12:42.600 Who are you going to believe, us or your lion eyes?
00:12:44.560 So it doesn't matter what you saw and heard yourself from Doug Ford.
00:12:47.920 We're telling you, no, no, no, he said he was invited.
00:12:50.480 It's all good.
00:12:51.180 Look, mistakes happen.
00:12:52.520 Accidents happen.
00:12:53.880 You ideally make a correction and move on.
00:12:56.680 But I think in general, there's a bigger issue right now in the media not really holding
00:13:01.220 Doug Ford's feet to the fire on this. 0.89
00:13:03.840 And this is a guy who I think has been sucking up to Justin Trudeau, who's been sucking up
00:13:08.180 to the mainstream media. 0.53
00:13:09.160 And right now, maybe I'm just in my own little echo chamber here, but I've been looking and
00:13:13.540 I'm not seeing the anger from the media.
00:13:16.580 I'm not seeing the outrage.
00:13:17.700 I'm not even seeing all of the, I'm not even seeing much of the questioning of him at those
00:13:22.580 opportunities where the press can put questions to Doug Ford about it.
00:13:26.740 It seems like he took the right position and now he's getting a pass.
00:13:30.000 It's very strange to me, again, and just in regards to the Sylvia Jones excuse, I'm just
00:13:34.960 checking my calendar and it appears, Andrew, that I have COVID next week, which is going
00:13:38.880 to be very convenient for me so I can take some much needed time off myself.
00:13:43.020 But again, you said that Ford won't have that excuse.
00:13:47.020 I don't think he will be able to use that.
00:13:49.220 And like you said, the media are not calling him out for blatantly telling them something
00:13:53.120 that isn't the case, for trying to go with a line that is just not true.
00:13:58.580 It's strange to me that in a different day or in a different time, Doug Ford would be
00:14:02.520 raked over the coals for trying to get away with this from the media.
00:14:05.740 But we're in this strange time right now where Doug Ford seems to be getting a pass from the
00:14:10.840 media.
00:14:11.540 The NDP in the Ontario NDP and the legislature are trying to do their best to hold his feet
00:14:17.740 to the fire.
00:14:18.480 But it seems they're the only people that are doing this right now.
00:14:21.100 I do have to say, I saw on Wednesday night a great rant from Breakfast Television co-host
00:14:26.420 Sid Cicero, who usually has some pretty good takes.
00:14:29.800 I consider him to be pretty much down the line on a lot of this stuff.
00:14:33.080 He's an equal opportunity slanderer, which I actually appreciate in politics. 0.99
00:14:37.440 He goes after everyone.
00:14:38.540 And he actually put Ford right in his place and made it very clear that you can't just
00:14:42.820 get away with saying one thing one week and then the exact opposite the next.
00:14:46.600 There's a word for that.
00:14:47.500 And he used that word, which I think is appropriate because it's time that Doug Ford gets called
00:14:53.640 out for this.
00:14:54.060 I don't understand what he's running for, what he's running from and why he's refusing
00:14:58.460 to testify.
00:14:59.320 It seems and looks very shady and it doesn't make him look like he's some total neutral
00:15:07.040 player in this all.
00:15:07.940 It looks like he has something to hide.
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00:15:32.160 No, yeah, I'd agree very much with that.
00:15:36.060 This is a bit of a weird topic because it goes back to one we, I can't remember if we
00:15:40.520 did it on this show a couple of weeks ago or if it was just on my show or if it was just
00:15:44.280 on Twitter or if I dreamed the whole thing.
00:15:45.960 But it'll be a story that's a couple of weeks old now, which is the somehow losing the ability
00:15:52.340 to speak English under oath when you've been testifying under oath in English for several
00:15:57.900 hours and using words like specificity and microaggression.
00:16:02.240 That was Ottawa City Councillor Matthew Fleury.
00:16:05.940 But sometimes the opinion columnists are a little bit late to the party here.
00:16:09.820 I am myself a victim of that.
00:16:11.740 It'll take me a while to write a column.
00:16:13.200 And by the time I publish it, other people have moved on.
00:16:15.700 But I think it's still relevant.
00:16:17.240 In this particular case, the Toronto Star in a piece on the 26th, so that was Wednesday
00:16:22.180 of this week, took aim at francophobia at the Emergencies Act inquiry.
00:16:28.460 It was a piece contributed by Isabel Bourgot-Tasset, which I believe is an Irish Chinese name, if
00:16:35.800 memory serves.
00:16:36.800 But Isabel Bourgot-Tasset says that francophony meets francophobia at the Emergencies Act inquiry.
00:16:45.340 And she says, English is always first.
00:16:47.860 The French follows. 0.99
00:16:48.860 My tongue is put in its place.
00:16:50.520 It's disquieting absence of the First Nations, Inuit and Métis languages, manifestations of
00:16:56.580 Canada's troubling linguistic pecking order, emblematic of the country's colonial history.
00:17:02.560 Man in like diverse woke bingo.
00:17:05.540 That one just like got a straight line, a box, the four corners, diagonal line, everything.
00:17:11.780 And what I find interesting about this, the column just goes on to talk about, you know,
00:17:17.280 Matthew Fleury's francophone, anglophone distinction and all of that.
00:17:21.400 But it's like, of all the things you take from that, like we made fun of the language thing,
00:17:26.580 but it wasn't actually like the central thesis of the Public Order Emergency Commission's work.
00:17:31.080 It's like that, like you just have to be really looking for a grievance.
00:17:34.360 If you've been watching the, what is it, 11, 12 days of testimony now, and that's the one
00:17:39.260 thing you've taken from it is they're francophobes.
00:17:43.340 I, I, you know, it's very easy.
00:17:45.380 I think sometimes if you're really plugged into the day-to-day news and it's your job to
00:17:50.760 read too much into things.
00:17:52.440 And I think all of us at certain points fall victim to that.
00:17:55.200 Just analyze, overanalyzing things and reading too deep into them.
00:17:58.760 The reality is, as we all know, Matthew Fleury just miraculously forgot how to speak English
00:18:04.680 when he was put in his place and asked to define a word that he had accused truckers of,
00:18:09.080 of committing microaggressions multiple times.
00:18:11.800 The second he was asked to define that, he breaks out the whole I'm francophone for the
00:18:16.020 first time, I should say, in the, in the hearing.
00:18:18.420 The only time he broke that out was when he was being cross-examined by Brendan Miller,
00:18:22.120 the convoy lawyer.
00:18:23.400 So very, very, very creative excuse to just decide, actually, I'm not going to be able to
00:18:27.780 speak in English for this one section.
00:18:30.720 And I'm going to go back to speaking English just fine without an accent.
00:18:34.520 without a problem, right after, right after I'm done being questioned by someone I don't
00:18:38.360 like.
00:18:38.820 And that's really what, what this is all about.
00:18:40.540 And the article itself is so absurd, Andrew.
00:18:42.820 You talked about the, the woke bingo card, the fact that, you know, it will be an instant
00:18:46.480 win.
00:18:47.120 Those aren't even all, those aren't even all like the sort of fake words they're putting
00:18:49.840 into this article.
00:18:50.680 There's one here, Anglo normativity, which I haven't heard before.
00:18:54.580 It's like this idea, I guess, I guess it's, it's becoming too normal, Andrew, to speak
00:18:59.160 English in Canada.
00:19:00.220 Last time I checked, I think English is, uh, is the dominant language spoken in Canada.
00:19:04.500 by quite a significant ways.
00:19:06.720 So I guess in that, in that, in that instance, Canada is far too Anglo normative.
00:19:12.060 And I guess the point of this whole article is to basically say that we are far, we, we,
00:19:17.220 we speak too much English in this country and it's not right. 0.97
00:19:19.640 At the beginning, this writer says that along with the fact that English is always first
00:19:25.000 and French follows, it's in tandem with the curious disquieting absence of First Nations,
00:19:30.160 Inuit and Métis languages.
00:19:32.160 And I'm just trying to figure this out, Andrew.
00:19:33.940 Like, are we supposed, is this article trying to basically tell us that we need to have,
00:19:37.720 um, Inuit, Métis and First Nations languages, um, in government documents, in more public
00:19:44.760 places?
00:19:45.720 Like, is that going to help us better understand things that are going on?
00:19:48.720 Again, I'm very confused about all this.
00:19:51.480 And the reality is you don't always have to defend people for, you know, absurd things
00:19:56.860 that they're doing that are, that are obviously absurd.
00:19:59.100 I think it's very, it would be the average position for anyone who hears this will say, 0.95
00:20:03.540 uh, that's ridiculous. 0.96
00:20:05.020 This guy sounds like he's just bitter and trying to avoid answering questions. 0.98
00:20:08.800 We don't need to have some great big Francophone, Anglophone debate over this.
00:20:14.080 It's clear that Matthew Fleur was obviously playing around, trying to mess around, and
00:20:19.040 he got called out for it by Miller, who, who, who rightly said, if he was asked to speak
00:20:23.960 French, he reintroduced himself as je m'appelle Brendan.
00:20:27.340 The perfect response, in my opinion, Andrew, to such a ridiculous thing to try and try and 0.64
00:20:31.700 pull like that, as if, as if no one was really paying attention. 0.87
00:20:34.560 Yeah, a lot.
00:20:35.100 I mean, look, the grievances that, and I believe the writer is a Franco-Ontarian, and she's 0.59
00:20:40.220 even more of a linguistic minority than being a Quebecois French speaker.
00:20:45.480 But the reality is, we can say we're an officially bilingual country, but functionally, English
00:20:51.040 is the language of this country.
00:20:52.980 You, it would be very difficult for you to get by by speaking only French.
00:20:56.540 And even then, you can probably get away with it if you have certain jobs in Quebec where
00:21:00.600 you can just pretend you don't speak English, which I'm convinced is what, like, all of the 1.00
00:21:04.280 Quebec civil servants I've encountered are doing.
00:21:06.220 But generally speaking, I mean, there are people that just, like, don't like that they
00:21:10.500 lost in 1763, and that this is an English-dominant country.
00:21:14.440 And I think that's what this comes down to. 0.95
00:21:16.420 But it is ridiculous. 0.79
00:21:17.440 And it's not to say that if he were genuinely struggling, that he should have been given 0.86
00:21:21.940 a hand by the translator.
00:21:23.460 But the issue is, it was only at that precise moment that he lost the ability to speak in
00:21:29.420 the language he'd been testifying in.
00:21:31.240 But nevertheless, this is from the Toronto Star.
00:21:34.540 So what do you expect?
00:21:36.220 We all, I mean, I think that was a lighter note, but we always tend to end on lighter
00:21:41.820 notes.
00:21:42.120 What else do we have coming up?
00:21:43.800 So we're talking about CP24 to end off the show this week.
00:21:47.620 We had a great example of CP24 being, you know, pushing fake news, but we're not done
00:21:51.840 just yet.
00:21:52.220 We've got one more story.
00:21:53.500 And it's worth just reading the headline of this story so you guys, you can understand
00:21:56.640 where CP24 is coming from.
00:21:58.540 The headline reads, Mountie wears thin blue line patch while escorting man convicted of hate
00:22:03.400 crime.
00:22:03.740 So again, the story could be about the man convicted of hate crime, what he did wrong
00:22:08.640 and trying to understand that as that's usually the story, not usually the pants that the
00:22:12.940 officer was wearing who escorted the man.
00:22:15.060 But nonetheless, this is CP24 coming in to give us the real hard hitting news, Andrew.
00:22:19.480 The Mountie wearing a thin blue line patch while escorting the man convicted of hate crime.
00:22:25.360 And this writes, the officer displayed a thin blue line patch on the left side of his hat
00:22:30.260 Thursday as he transferred the Travis patron back to jail from courts, King Bench and Estivin.
00:22:36.240 And then the story says the symbol has been associated with white nationalist movements
00:22:41.320 was recently worn by a Saskatchewan Mountie while escorting an inmate who had just been
00:22:45.300 sentenced for hate speech.
00:22:46.580 You could almost know exactly where the story was headed, right?
00:22:48.980 When it was talking about the patch that the officer was wearing.
00:22:51.480 Oh, you just know it's actually going to be about some of the thin blue line being connected
00:22:55.860 with white nationalist movements.
00:22:57.200 Of course it was.
00:22:58.500 And here's the thing, like the whole story is based on this idea that you're supposed to
00:23:02.940 read this and assume that the thin blue line patch is problematic, as they say, that you're
00:23:08.280 supposed to look at it and see that it must be hateful or white supremacist and hence the
00:23:12.340 justification.
00:23:12.840 And the funny thing is even the expert they cite, who is this woman that will be cited in
00:23:19.140 like any story about hate groups and radical groups in Canada, Barbara Perry, director of
00:23:23.940 the so-called Center for Hate, Bias and Extremism at Ontario Tech University.
00:23:29.060 Barbara Perry doesn't even say it's hateful.
00:23:31.040 She's like, well, the symbol is purposely ambiguous.
00:23:33.880 So it could be bad.
00:23:36.160 It could be good.
00:23:37.120 You never know.
00:23:37.780 And the RCMP, they're saying, yeah, we'll look and we'll re-educate everyone on the
00:23:42.340 uniform and dress manual and the implications the thin blue line may have.
00:23:46.760 The thin blue line has nothing to do with radicalism, nothing to do with hate.
00:23:51.660 It refers to this idea of policing as being the line that keeps society from defending
00:23:57.420 into violent chaos.
00:23:59.180 I'm quoting that directly.
00:24:00.620 For police officers, it's generally something they just take as a point of pride, that they
00:24:05.920 are part of this blue line that serves society.
00:24:08.960 Oftentimes, people use the term blue line in a derisive way as far as like police only
00:24:15.340 supporting police and not wanting to criticize each other.
00:24:18.780 But generally speaking, there's nothing hateful about that patch.
00:24:22.380 I know nothing about the officer.
00:24:23.540 Maybe the officer is like a, you know, ethnic minority, racial minority, LGBT, woke, diverse
00:24:31.800 person. 0.92
00:24:32.280 Maybe he is a white supremacist.
00:24:34.120 I have no idea and I don't care, but the patch itself is irrelevant and redundant.
00:24:40.160 And the CP24 article is trying to make it out to be at some smoking gun of hatred, which
00:24:45.540 I just find absurd.
00:24:47.520 No, and God forbid the officers want to, you know, show some, show some solidarity with
00:24:52.440 their fellow officers, have some pride in the job they do, which is one that we need them
00:24:56.920 to do, which is to protect us.
00:24:58.680 I mean, we should never let them be proud of that, Andrew.
00:25:01.580 That's such a bad thing.
00:25:02.620 And it goes even further.
00:25:04.240 The RCMP in this article basically write this groveling, you know, apology about the
00:25:08.660 thin blue line patch worn by one of their officers.
00:25:11.340 And in this, the RCMP are quoted as saying, the photos bring forth a good opportunity for
00:25:16.180 senior management, including the Saskatchewan RCMP Sergeant Major, to re-educate individuals
00:25:21.160 on the RCMP's uniform and dress manual and the implications the thin blue line may have
00:25:26.020 to segments of the community we serve.
00:25:27.760 There it is.
00:25:28.180 We have to re-educate our officers because they dared, Andrew, to show some, to show some
00:25:33.200 solidarity with their fellow officers and have some pride in the job they take to keep
00:25:37.060 us safe.
00:25:37.520 I mean, what, what strange times you're living in and how could this be the story of the
00:25:42.000 article?
00:25:42.300 How could this be the story in the article?
00:25:45.800 Yeah, Patch Politics, the newest product of CP24.
00:25:49.620 That does it for today.
00:25:50.920 We'll have lots more next week here on Fake News Friday, also on Ratioed, on the Andrew
00:25:55.600 Lawton Show, the Rupa Subramania Show, Reality Check, Alberta Roundup, all sorts of programs.
00:26:01.520 And I hope you will tune into them and check out TNC.news.
00:26:04.880 Joined by Harrison Faulkner, I'm Andrew Lawton.
00:26:07.280 Have a great weekend, everyone.
00:26:12.300 We'll be right back.